THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 98 — The Comey Indictment? Antifa Agenda? Charlie and the Cubs?

Ladies and gentlemen, we are back. Hey, everybody, for this Thursday's edition of Thought Crime. We are here in, of course, where else would we be, the Charlie Kirk Studio. We have... four members of the thought crime posse with us. The fifth is on assignment from God. And we are here on a day such as this where the breaking news is really a thought crime itself. And so when we were sort of chatting around the, around the mic here, what do we talk about? And I said, guys, it's James Comey. It's all James Comey. We have to dig into this. So let's go around the horn. I'm here. I'm Jack. Andrew Colvette. Blake Neff, the great Twitter star, Blake Neff, whose microphone is nowhere near him for some reason. You know, we usually use those, Blake. Well, it's funny. It's your first episode at all. We're, we're, oh, wait, you have to name the last one before I say what I was going to say. Oh, and of course, the end of course, uh, Tylenol Boyer. Tyler. Ooh, I like Tylenol Boyer. Changes lower. Changes lower. That's why your mom, that's why your mom named you that, right? My mom named me Tyler Nall. Tyler Nall. Tyler Nall. So, you know, it's funny. So we, so we've been obviously hosting. the Charlie Kirk Show here. We've been hosting Human Events Daily with Jack Posobic here. And now we're hosting thought crime here. And I walk in and Blake is sitting in my chair. And I was like, I was like, hey, that's my chair. I saw this. This actually happened. But Blake is very territorial. Yeah. Blake like went full like autist and you were like full Tylenol. Full Tylenol. And he goes, he goes, no. This is where I sat every time. We did that crime. And I was like, you know what? Every single thought crime, right here. Fair enough, my seat. My seat. Me here. Tyler there. And then obviously the big man there. And then, usually I'd be there on the studio. Yeah. It's fair. Usually I'd be there on the screen. I was tempted to be like a little butt hurt. And then I was like, you know what? Maybe we should even like rotate you because that would then you're kind of honorarily still in your weird like. Oh, I go. Oh, you like put me in like the closet and like just go on zoom from there. We need to communicate with Starfleet here. Yeah, exactly. I do. Kind of wish I could see the thing behind me. My favorite one is kind of similar to where you're at anyways, because when you're remote, you're on the screen. So we look that direction at you anyway. No, but do you remember there was an episode. It wasn't a thought crime, but it was an election stream where we had the camera angle set sort of straight, and I think the TV was like a little lower, and Steve Bannon was on the TV, and it looked like he was sitting in the middle of all of us because of the way the angles were. I have a picture of it somewhere. It's really cool. We learned out the wrinkles much more. No, I actually liked that, though. I thought that would kind of cool. You know what I love, by the way, is that it still has you in...

You and Jack's, or Jack and you and Charlie's face in the, I thought about that. I thought about that. It's kind of awesome. So, and by the way, and we're looking at the, you know, the video screen right here and, you know, every single network right now, James Comey indicted, James Comey indicted, two counts. I got to say, I'm just going to say it. First off. Pam Bondi came through. Pan body came through. This is something where I know she's faced a lot of criticism in her position, but look, this is possibly one of the biggest steps towards writing. the scales of justice in America. We've had this two-tiered system or three-tiered system in some cases. I'm excited to hear Blake's take on this, but yes, continue. And James Comey played a big part of that. He played a very, very big part of that. And I just got to say off the top, hats off to Pan Bonny for doing this. So you know what's the first thing I thought of when the news broke? That you might get indicted? I thought of, no, thank goodness, no. You know what I thought of, though, was when James Comey was on with Jen Pasaki and was asking, well, what happens if Trump, you know, gets elected, but then he's still. you know, gets convicted of a crime. And he was like, well, we could put him in, you know, a special trailer out in the prison yard. And, you know, there's special dispensations for that. And I don't know why that was the memory that flooded back into my head. You would joke about this. Other than the fact that it was the arrogance that these people exhibited. And, you know, now we're learning from this indictment. We should go over what we're learning in the indictment, but that he was actively leaking all this stuff to the press, and we knew that. We knew that. We knew that from before with these memos, and I think it was Ben, Ben Whittis, I think. He kind of denied it or played coy, and he was, he was parsing his words, and, you know, it was all very transparent, but he was doing what a spook does, and he basically was, you know, playing the audience. And so. I just, the arrogance of going, we're going to lock President Trump up in a courtyard. Hey, hey, man, not all spooks. Not all spooks. Yeah, but we're going to lock him up in a courtyard. And he's going to be able to work out and, you know, shower and all this stuff, even as President of the United States locked up. I mean, it was just the arrogance of this man. And so there is a little bit of visceral kind of like. This feels right, but I want to hear Blake's take on it before. Before we do takes, let's get, and Blake is always the best at this, what do we know about these indictments? Exactly. So the indictment is pretty short, so we can basically read the whole thing. So this is the indictment, the United States of America versus James Comey. James Comey. So count one is false statements within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the United States government. That's lying to Congress, but in fancy speak.

In the jurisdiction of Congress. In the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the United States government. It's so good. So on or about September 30th, 2020, in the Eastern District of Virginia, the defendant, James Comey, did willfully and knowingly make a materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statement in a matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the U.S. government by falsely stating to a U.S. senator during a judiciary committing hearing that he, James Comey, had not author. Quote, authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports regarding an FBI investigation concerning person one. Who could person one? Possibly be. Person one was always Trump. Two. And then they say that statement was false because as James Comey knew then and there, he had in fact authorized person three. to serve as an anonymous source in news reports regarding an FBI investigation concerning person one, all in violation of 18 U.S. Code 100. I heard person three was Andrew McCabe. It is almost certain that this is Andrew McCabe was leaking things to the press at the instigation, at the approval of James Comey, and that he then allegedly lied about this. Does that make sense, though, that Andrew McCabe would, or would he have sent a dispatch, sort of one of his little minions to do so? Well, or is it just that he dispatched it so it's still, he's still personally. Yeah, that may be the same thing, right? Is that he had his own people who, I mean, those people could be working with the, you know, with the prosecutors. Now, that said, though, if he was doing that with the authorization of the director of the FBI, would that be a crime? Well, if it was confidential information. If it was classified information, it still would be, by the way. Yeah. For the record. And then they have count two obstruction of a congressional proceeding. honor about September 30th, 2020, same day. This is a date he testified before the Senate. Oh, okay. So they're saying he obstructed. Got it. James Comey did corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct, and impede the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which an investigation was being had before the Senate Judiciary Committee by making false and misleading statements before that committee in violation of 18 U.S. Code 1505. So basically they're double tapping him. They're saying by saying a false statement to Congress, he lied to Congress and engaged in obstruction of what Congress was investigated. Was it obstruction of Congress or obstruction of justice? It is obstruction of a congressional proceeding. So I believe this was the same one that was used for a lot of the J-6ers, isn't that right? That was obstruction of an official proceeding. I think that's slightly different. But it might be under the same. I'm going to go. I'll go check that. Let's see what. Or it might be like a sister statute or something. It's very close. I think obstruction of a official proceeding is a bit different because that covered like, let's see, federal law, U.S. Code 1512. This is 1505. So let's see. Obstruction of a 15. Do, do.

Mm, obstruction of pending proceeding, 18 U.S. Code 1505. Maybe they did get him on the same one. Aha! That would be... No, because I remember, I talked to Julie Kelly about that so many times, and we were talking about the construction of that statute and how it was made and, you know, really what the purpose of it was, et cetera, et cetera. And so I just, I remember that... You know, that string. I'm so not a lawyer, but I remember that code. Yeah, it's interesting. It's poetic, although it is also interesting. They're going for that simply from the fact that I know one of the legal cases in J6 was kind of premised on the fact that I believe... They were trying to overturn it. Well, overturn it because... The obstruction of official proceeding law was apparently intended to cover like almost terrorism type stuff. Like you're attacking, like you're burning documents, you're destroying things. You're doing like really big aggressive stuff. And that's why it can cover a 20 year penalty. And it probably, they argued, wasn't meant to cover lesser things like base, you know, what J6 was where they just kind of broke in and like were hooligans for a while. And some were not. Some were not. Some were not. But that's how they were, they were getting tons of people on the, you know, oh, you obstructed the proceeding by walking in and making Congress run away for a bit. I just want to say that again. So it looks like, it looks like that James Comey was indicted under the same code the J-Sixers were. Just saying. There's some sweet poetic. Some spiritual justice there. Well, that makes it really difficult for all the people. And now how are they going to argue against it when they said they were all for it when there's the sixers? Well, so Blake, I want you to chime in on something that you have, I think, beat into my head over the last however many years. You do not want to fly off the cuff willy-nilly. with half-baked crap against your political opponents because then you're starting to get into Banana Republic territory. I don't think this is half-baked at all. I'm not saying it is. I'm saying as a general rule, Blake is always geared that way. He's sort of assuming that there is a cartoonish, clownish character that... can emerge when we're trying to seek justice or vengeance. Is what I'm calling Black Pill Blake, by the way? Black pill Blake, contrarian Blake. But no, but it's a good, it's a good break to a gas pedal. You got to have both pedals to drive the car and not get into a crash. Okay, so. Looking at the details, Blake, would you put it in the half baked, gun half cocked, or would you put this in the, would you put this in the, this looks pretty well thought out and they've taken their time and they've done, it's pretty open and shut. Well, so contextually, one reason it's dropped now is the statute of limitations for what they've charged him with actually expires next Tuesday. So they basically, it was now or never in terms of dropping it. So at the least, it's not.

It's not rushed out in that sense. They could not have delayed it more. And so hopefully they've lined a lot of this up. I worry if the charges are strong enough. It's basically like, you know, it says so if they can basically prove that he directed people to leak things and that that is criminal as we understand it. So this means McCabe might have to testify against him. That would be very interesting. Yes. Because they, because if he's person three and he was direct so directed, then McCabe would have to testify. That's his only way out. That's his only way to... McCabe's only way out. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So he'd have to testify. And if he doesn't, then, oh, by the way, you're going to the same place band and Navarra went. That's right. As long as that holds true. Well, and I mean, if he is person three, then yeah. Yeah. Now, a thing I saw that did, it gave me pause. I saw a few people say it on X where they immediately said, you and I were talking about this Jack. Someone said like, Give him a perp walk on live TV. And all I would say is if your goal of indicting someone is to get the perp walk of them, you might want to cool it down a bit. That's what it goes into that. That's what. cartoon character yeah you don't you don't you don't a lot of people they want the pageantry they want the imagery they love people are people are upset they like they are and they like the TV image of like the people who have hurt us who have done things that have infuriated us you know justifiably so and then they like the idea of them facing justice but I would again caution people justice is not making James Comey do a perp walk justice is Finding the truth. And if he broke the law, finding him guilty and holding him to account for that. If you, anyone can search my Twitter. I'm against perp walks. I've always been against them. I find them prejudicial. If someone's guilty, find him guilty. Just find him guilty and take it to trial and put it out there. I've just, I've always had this. I said it for like Harvey Weinstein. I said it for a number of people on the left. I'm just not for perpawks. And so, and just to caution everyone. And I'm going to stick to that. Remember where we were two years ago. They indicted. Donald Trump on a bunch of things. And they were extremely happy about it at the time. They purported him down Fifth Avenue of New York City. They gloated about the mugshot. And they were novel legal theories and this, yes. They overreached and it absolutely sent the right bonkers. It guaranteed he was going to get the nomination. I mean, he almost certainly was anyway, but 100% ended the primary. It gave huge impetus to everyone on the right. And it continued to do that because so much of the case was a clown show with Big Fanny, with Alvin Bragg. And this is not a novel legal theory here, though. This is far more grounded. This is very straight, grounded, false statements and obstruction. It feels very sort of cut and dry in a sense. Like, it's a very simple thing they're alleging. It's a simple thing they're alleging. It's something that people have been prosecuted before. Like, oh, you're basically masterminding leaks. Do we know what he leaked? We've convicted people. Do we know what he leaked? I believe it was these memos. He leaked the memos to who and what were they? No, no, no, no. Actually, Blamell asked, this isn't about the memos because it's about someone being an anonymous FBI source in news reports. So what's interesting is that the content of what was leaked isn't brought up in the indictment here. It's more the...

discussions around how the leak occurred. So it's one of those examples where it's like the cover-up is worse than the crime, right? So it's not the crime that gets you. It's the cover-up that gets you. So because he lied in the investigation of this leak, that's what they're getting him on. And so we'd have to go back. You know, we should find the, I'm sure people have already found because it has the date of the hearing. So I'm sure we could pull up what he was talking about. I think I know where I can find that. The internet. So you know what's interesting about James Comey though, which is which is a which is just an interesting piece of the James Comey saga, right? He's a douchebag? Well, he does really come off like one. But secondly, he, you know, he had that moment with. Hillary Clinton that probably helped President Trump, right, in 2016 where he said we're opening the investigation into the email servers. Yeah, but he's also the guy who shut it down. Well, they hated him. Then they welcomed him back on MSNBC, etc. But it's just like it's an interesting. He's traveled a circuitous route, right? And he was sort of long known to be a Republican. Yeah, he was kind of like, well, Blake, you probably remember this. Do you remember Blake, who came up with the phrase Ferguson effect? Oh, gosh. Who was it? James Comey. Really? James. Yeah. I don't know if he is like is the initial person who come up with it, but he certainly used it and popularized it. And James Comey used to talk about the Ferguson. The FBI has thousands of people in it. It feels weird how James Comey is the select Forrest Gump guy who just keeps popping up everywhere. Yeah. And I remember he was never an FBI agent. I think he was a DOJ. He was like a lower attorney and then eventually got plucked out of that. And he was the successor to Mueller in, and then he, you know, he came up through those ranks. But he was, yeah, he was. someone who is known, quote, unquote, as a Republican prior to all of this. But he's one of those like MSNBC Republicans now. He's a Republican who took all of the changes of the 2010s very hard. And he went from being this like six foot five or how tall? Six eight. Six eight. Yeah. So he's basically he went from being literally the, him and Glenn Youngkin were the only guys in the game taller than Charlie. He went from like tall Republican prosecutor to. Yeah, Barron's giant. I mean, you just kind of look at him with like his like, this is what a feminist looks like shirts or whatever it was he had. He went, he was at one of those, he was at one of those women's marches, wasn't he? I don't remember that part. I just remember that what didn't he made that. He may have been. It would surprise me. He did the 8647 thing. But yeah. Yeah. Which is psycho. Which is, yeah. And he played dumb. And he played like, oh, I didn't know what that meant. I thought it meant like canceled Trump. Well, get him out of here. Yeah, no. Yeah. Give him the hook. Yeah, and this is after, you know, the assassination attempts on President Trump. Yeah, and I mean. And that even, I mean, that plays into the run up here with Charlie's assassination.

Which is like, it's guys like James Comey that were publicly calling for the elimination of public officials. Yeah. And this is, this is why it's so sick and twisted. And it should make everyone angry. We need to turn that. As we talk about, we need to turn that anger into action. But that animosity that these people had are what has stoked the flames that have turned to hurting people. And. You know, and that's aside from what he's being, he's being accused of. Breaking, former FBI director James Comey is expected to surrender tomorrow morning. That's per CNN. So it will turn himself in. And, and, and, and, Blake, one of the things that I, I should also mention in the sense that, um, based on what we know now, the fact that it's in the Eastern District of Virginia is likely in an attempt to get it out of the D.C. district where, of course, we know the D.C. jury pool is, and, you know, it is what it is, right? It's part of the system where it's 96%. We should probably pull it up for the 24 election. It's just full-on Democrat. Every single J-6er, I think there was 100% conviction rate. And on the flip side, there was 100% conviction rate for Steve Bannon. There would have been for Trump, for Roger Stone, for General Flynn's situation. He would have been found guilty, et cetera, et cetera. So we know how bad that jury pool is. You know, it just occurs to me. This feels like it could be a long-running issue in U.S. justice or what have you like obviously most big criminal cases are filed in big urban areas right southern district of new york i i know you're going with this and you're exactly right and it's going to be it seems like a serious problem if when our political polarization has grown to such a degree that you have a 90-10 jury pool of potential people almost always waited in favor of another party. Right. So how are you going to get a jury of your peers when you're already stacked to have a jury that's completely against you because this is a political prosecution? It's a 90-10. Yeah, whereas, by the way, the Eastern District of Virginia, it's known as the rocket docket. It's known for being a quick, you know, quick procedures there. And by the way, has been historically used for national security crimes. So this is something that there, you know, there's so much of the national security industry is there. The judges is the, is the big thing. I mean, we saw that with like, it's not like you're just jury shopping. Like, it's literally known for this. Right. Well, but we, you know, the judge is where it really matters. I mean, juries obviously matter. But so much of this happens at the judicial level, right? I mean, you saw this with Eileen Cannon. And, and, and you're also looking at it from, to your point, um, at the appeals, uh, circuits. Correct. Yeah, correct. No, so I mean, listen, my, my instinct here is that. The, so, and maybe Blake, you would disagree with this, but my instinct here is that you've got Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi under an excruciating amount of pressure to come up with the goods, right? They, the base wants, they want.

consequences and accountability for what we lived through during the Biden years and goodness was there a lot of it and it seems like they waited longer than would be politically advantageous for them right because their jobs are on the line right I mean they're wondering are we are we going to get fired by President Trump any day soon and so they took time obviously the statue's running out but they you got to believe that when Dan Bongino would hint, like, trust me, things are coming. Or Mike Davis would go on and be like, guys, I'm in the loop. Just chill out. Things are coming. Everybody just bide your time. This is definitely one of the things that they've been working on. And I got to believe that whether it sticks or not, they're putting their best foot forward with the best, easiest case that they can probably do, right? To get a big name, you know, person that has wronged. Well, you know, at least conservative. So I would think that I would think I, all that to say, I think I put a relatively high amount of confidence in the fact that they probably have a pretty good case here. We, and so much of this we knew already. I actually was one of the things I first went viral for back in 2017 was dinging James Comey on false statements because he would do this all the time. He would say things in one testimony and then he'd say things in the next testimony. One time he said, I never felt coercion or pressure to end an investigation. And the very next time he went before. Congress, he said, I felt pressured to end, uh, to end the Russia investigation. Well, by the way, that, that is the, that is a hallmark of a liar. Yeah. Which this is essentially what they're accusing him of doing and lying in an official proceeding. But here, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but here, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, it's, but, but, it's. So I'm looking at we already have kind of, this is, what, what, what, what, what, what, it's, it's. It's. They didn't just go after Trump. They went after Trump supporters. They went after people in the states. They went after Tyler. They went after Tyler. They indicted Tyler. And there was definitely coordination. We actually have some news on that this week. It's been great. No, I mean, you've been fighting it, but you've had to spend, you've had to spend insane. I'm just going to like, I know you don't want to talk about it. I'm going to say it. No, this is, yeah. Insane amounts of money. This is actually a great Charlie moment. Insane amounts of money. When the indictment came down. on to defend Tyler yeah Charlie was like for signing a piece of paper we got your back dude there's no daylight we have you like you're not in this alone I remember when he he like when the news came and you were kind of like, uh, freaking out. Yeah. It's it was a Pucker Factor 8. Like I think you. I was traveling. I was in Michigan. I was at the Detroit airport, which is a horrible place. But you're already Parker Factor 6 when you're there. Charlie instantly chimed in our, our three way. And he said, I got you, bro. 100%. And I honestly, that's not what he said to me. He said cut him. No. He said that to me. That was the funny part. I was in Michigan during all this because of the Michigan thing. But I was, I mean, without a doubt. And this is all throughout all the years. Charlie always had my back and had always been, you know, the first to defend and everything else. And there was no worse feeling than when the entire government's coming after you. And Charlie was the first of like, we've got you 100%. And, yeah. And now you've had some good news. And we had some good news. Like literally the day after the appeal that the, so I, my motion to.

remand back to the grand jury because they didn't bring sufficient evidence to prosecute all of us got approved it got it got basically remanded and the state was appealing and the appeal got denied straight up this week so so they have to start all over and we'll see what they do so and we know in michigan just recently they they knocked this whole thing off so but again that's that's that's that's so many people and and by the way like okay you know you're an official turning point god is term point in action but so many these people are just like county committee members and you know just regular you were the highest senior citizens you were the biggest target that they could get everybody else was like there was a state chairman you know like and all you did was say like hey public officials in in in the case that this you know some of our trump's legal proceedings proved fruitful then we want to make sure because of the laws that we have this backup in place that's all you did there's a legal theory they were going back to the 1960 election with hawaii exactly the democrats actually came up with this whole idea of you know of having making sure and again it makes sense when you have close elections what you don't want to have happen in any of these states and i can't get into too many of the details but what you don't want to have happen is it be like within a few thousand votes and then they realized they did something wrong or they miscounted or whatever. And remember, this is during COVID when all these new rules got put in place, all these bail and ballots. And so a lot of people had come to us and said, hey, we're not totally sure that everything is like on the up and up here. People like Bob Spendell up in Wisconsin. In case of emergency, you better have, you guys better have your paperwork ready. The way I frame it is imagine if the papers aren't ready, how mad. the president will be, how mad the, the country will be, the base, the voters will be, if you basically don't do the right thing. And people don't remember. It was like basically 43,000 votes across, or 42,000 votes across three states. Yeah. And here in Arizona, it was 10,000 votes. Blake, what were you going to say? Oh, so I just wanted to flag another breaking news item that's happened in relation to this is we kind of, the way they're going to hype this up. We have a, uh, deputy U.S. attorney or assistant U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. He has filed a letter to uphold my oath to the Constitution and country. I hereby resign as an assistant United States attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia in the Department of Justice effective immediately. Bye bye. Troy Edwards Jr. Now what is funny is. apparently Troy Edwards Jr. is James Comey's son-in-law. There it is. That does. His daughter, his daughter, who was a prosecutor for SDNY, just got fired. I can hear Jen Socky now saying, this is the front to the rule of law. We should pull some of the response. I'm sure these clips are going to be great. I know it's like happening right now. Ryan, Riley, can you guys get some, please? Just I'm sure they're blubbering up there. We live in a dictatorship.

and the tyranny of, yeah, well, okay. Could you imagine being indicted just very polite? And it's like literally. That's exactly what you did. And here's what this is why we, this is why I'm talking about Tyler and like Tyler hates talking about it. But whatever. Sorry, Tylenol. Well, I just, I just, I just, I just can't talk about it. No, I know, I know. But someday we'll be able to talk a lot about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's, it's that story that, that you have still this platform to be able to, to say. And, and, obviously, have, you know, and having the backing of an organization to be able. to fight that. Average people who went up against 1,600 people. were mass indicted over J6. People were in, you know, in some cases, lost their jobs over COVID. Some people lost even more than that over COVID. Donald Trump and anyone associated with him, people were losing their law licenses. People are still losing their law licenses. People were indicted. People were sued. There was mass insanity for four years. And every single time, it was some novel legal theory or some Star Chamber or some nonsense. thing that nobody could even understand what the indictment was. And this one is, it's so simple, you lie to Congress. The FBI director lied to Congress. And let's be frank. Even though this, as far as I know, it was the first time that an FBI director has been indicted. Probably not the first time that an FBI director or CIA director has lied to Congress. And we certainly know that John Brennan or people like J. Edgar Hoover, the original director of the FBI, had a complete habit of this. You know, they used to say that J. Edgar Hoover would turn off the congressional wiretaps right before he went to testify so that when he testified, he wouldn't be lying when he said, oh, no, I would never wiretap members of Congress. And it's insane. It's totally insane. And his name's on the building, which should be completely raised, by the brick by brick. Oh, the 65 project. That's what I was thinking. The 65 project. They have all these names. Yeah, but it's the organization that was working to disbar lawyers who defended Donald Trump. I mean, this was like what it was like a full. He thought he's lawyers. Yeah. You couldn't even. Trump was having trouble getting lawyers because there was organizations that were well funded. that were working to disbar his lawyers. This is how deep it went. And it sends a threat to other lawyers. Totally. It was a, absolutely. If you're a lawyer and you're like, I don't need the billable hours. Right. I don't need the, I don't need the controversy that comes with that. No, yeah. Any firm, white shoe law firm. But he fought through it. He fought through it. They're not going to want to say, well, I don't want to do this. I don't want to be involved with that. I want to be associated because it's a fear tactic. And this is actually in that, that clip of Charlie that Mikey posted recently about why Republicans are so scared to go on offense. If you guys. seen that going around from Nebraska. This is what he talks about. He said, you know, he says, look at what they did to Steve Bannon. Look at what they did. He's talking about lawfare. And he's talking about how it creates a chilling effect for Republicans that nobody wants to ever.

I'm going to have to use the phrase, stick their neck out. And because they don't want to be the next one. They don't want to be the next band. They don't want to be the next. I think he says James O'Keefe and they don't be the next Donald Trump because they're terrified of standing out because when you stand out, you get cut down. And. He explained the effect it had across all levels. Was he relating that to the Cornhusker thing? Yeah, he was relating it to like taking offense in Nebraska for winter takeoff. And this is really important. This actually relates really similarly to Jimmy Kimmel. And I'll explain how. So this week, we saw the left lose their mind when Jimmy Kimmel got basically questioned, very basically questioned for what he was saying and doing on his platform. Remember, the left went after the individual. They went after individual conservatives and de-platform them, debank them, did all these things. It wasn't the big guys. It was the small guys in most cases that they were going, the individual. And that's my point. It was the small guy. And this same issue, they were going after the small people and indicting the small people and knocking the small people, whacking those moles all across the country and taking out the legs out from underneath the conservative movement. And it wasn't the, in most cases, it wasn't all just the big guys. It was the small guys they were getting rid of. And now they're all losing their mind over James Comey. The James Comey Kimmel situation this week is so similar in the fact that the left had gone after the grassroots of this country, the average citizen trying to, just like Jack is saying, trying to dissuade them from participating from the civic and civic engagement, basic civic engagement. And then at the same time, they're wanting to protect, you know, the biggest arbiters in these problems that are really, you know, trashing and hurting the country. And they want to get away with it. And they shouldn't be able to. So, real quick. By the way, there's a bunch of video. Sorry, Jack, just really quick. I just wanted to thank you Crochet Queen. She donated $50. God bless you all. Charlie has brought my husband and I back to reading the Bible. God bless you. Wow. We're so happy to hear that. And Charlie always loved every time he heard someone said they were going to church, reading the Bible, taking their faith more seriously because of what they'd seen or heard from him. We love that that's continuing. Yeah. Do you have more? Oh, no. That's all we have for now. All right. Well, there's more. Keep them coming in. Blake will find them. Blake will read them. And we will shut up so that your voice can be on the air through our Rumble rants. I just wanted to give a shout out to Greg Price because he's pulled the what we believe to be the moment of, and we have the video. We'll get the video in a second of what James Comey lied about it. It was the steel dossier. So that's what we were thinking. So his tweet reads, James Comey told Congress in September 2020. that the steel dossier was not used in the 2016, the ICA, this intelligence community assessment on the Russia hoax. And this was the big thing, right? This came out publicly. It was reported on, at least in the unclassified format, that the intelligence community. Remember, 16 agencies, 17 agencies over and over and over. They assessed that Russia hacked the election, Russia hacks the election. And James Comey told them that it did not involve the steel dossier. Well, what do we put together with that?

Tulsi Gabbard, go back to July of 2025, when she released those unclassified emails and documents from how this was created, she found that Decile dossier was directly cited. And specifically, it was, remember those Obama officials telling them that it wasn't real. And if I remember correctly... there were pretty high level members of the FBI. The FBI was part of this ICA. So one of those 17 agencies that's under the ODNI is the FBI. So the FBI was part of this. So there's no question that James Comey certainly would have not only been part of the initial process, but you know, you'd want to review something like that before you go to Congress. Let's play it. 247. Not been verified. I don't know whether it was Brennan. I remember being told that the group's view was it was significant enough and consistent enough with other intelligence that it ought to be included, but it wasn't sufficiently corroborated to be in the body of the intelligence community assessment. So they put a brief summary of it in an annex. And oh, we got another one. Bell CM1 donated $50. I just want to say you guys are doing a great job. You know it. Charlie knows it. And so do all of us so proud of all of you and thankful for you. We're thankful for you, Bell. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. And we know it's what Charlie D.1 is doing. We have James Comey is giving a response to this as well. Does it, is it loaded up? Looks like it is. Let's play James Comey's response, 248. My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not live on our knees, and you shouldn't either. Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right, but I'm not afraid, and I hope you're not either. I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does. My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent. So let's have a trial and keep the faith. He just reminds me. Every time they talk, it's like very much I am in a TV show, like possibly one on Apple TV. He reminds me so much of like Jeff Flake and Mitt Romney. Yeah. And like he's all those people. Liz. Doug Cheney. No, and Liz Cheney. And like these guys that like in the same way when they were went after Trump so hard and then like they had to come back. And like the guys down in Georgia, what's the, what's his name that left the party? Not Brad Raffensperger, the other one that left the party? Purdue? No, no, no, no. Purdue didn't leave the party? No, there was a, I'm blanking right now. They're like state rep or something? He was, he was, I think he was pretty high up. But anyways, long story short. Not worth remembering. Yeah, not worth remembering. All these guys, but they all say, they all have a look about them. It's like this like really sheepish, guilty look when they're like doing this stuff. Well.

Yeah, I mean, but let's let's put this in context. What he's being accused of lying about is, as Roger Stone puts it, the greatest dirty trick in American history. Yes. And what is that dirty trick? It's that they basically realized the steel dossier was garbage. And yet there was a meeting. I forget the exact date. It was in December of 2016. So the election has happened. Donald Trump's about to take over as president. And they get to work sabotaging the elected representative of the people to lead the country. And who was it? And who was it that briefed the steel dossier to Donald Trump? It was James Comey. So this isn't like, this isn't an example of some low level functionary or, you know, someone who's got no culpability, wrong place, the wrong time. No, you were the individual, James Comey, who through your own actions, by the way, We never really found who it was that leaked that to Jake Tapper, by the way, because it was Jake Tapper on CNN, who's very, very upset that CNN had me on this week. He's like screaming about it behind the scenes over there. Is he really? He has been, yes. 100% confirmed. And that... that's what gave the steel dossier quote unquote legs right remember that because before it was like oh it's the dirty dossier nobody wants to talk about it with there's no there's no action items here it's it's really weird the moscow stuff didn't make any sense really um and so this is hilarious well keep in mind too suddenly suddenly james komi briefs it to the president and the very next day just about jake tapper goes up on tv jake taper and says This was brief to the president. This is very important. This was brief to the president. It's very important. And then BuzzFeed publishes it in full, I think, like a day after that. Does BuzzFeed still exist? Not BuzzFeed News. I think they had to take it down. But Ben Smith does semaphore now. So the reason why I bring up those names, though, Andrew, is because never forget Senator McCain's. involvement here. He was the one that was the one that handed it off. He was the one that received it in, I think it was in Canada. Yeah, it was at one of those, it was like a defense forum. He was at a defense forum and somebody randomly came up to him and gave it to him. That was some head of states from somewhere. And he was the one that delivered it. And that's why I bring up those names because all of those names revolved around that man, our late senator here in Arizona, John McCain. Just an interesting point, right? That, like, that was like the last final, you know, you know, everyone remembers the thumbs down on the, on the getting rid of Obamacare. This is also one of the biggest most. Yeah, I forgot. I actually forgot about that detail. Check this out, though. A little, little ode to Charlie here. Throw up image 250. And this is Charlie on.

5-720. So in 2020, May 7, 2020, he says, retweet if James Comey should be prosecuted in charge for what he did to Michael Flynn, General Michael Flynn. So remember, Michael Flynn was entrapped, basically, lured into a meeting without a lawyer under the, you know, the assumption that this was a cooperative, hey, we're all in the government kind of thing. And then we also have a clip that's coming of. former director James Comey sort of bragging about how he destroyed General Flynn's career. And so, I mean, you start putting all these little pieces together, and it's really hard to have a lot of sympathy for this guy. He's going to run to MSNBC. He's going to put his little memos out, his little selfie videos out, and act like he's the defender of democracy. But remember, every time they say that they're defending democracy, these are the same people that try to throw a former president of the United States. into federal prison for 700 years under a novel legal theory. But of course, if you're on the left, if you're an MSNBC watcher, right? Right. So, Blake, this is why they use that language. By the way, I have to say this. Did he have a ringlight? Can we get that picture up again? Like, do you see the lighting? He probably watched like a Swift selfie. I think because doesn't he have like teenage daughters? Is he on one of his teenage daughters, Taylor Swift ring lights on there? I just think, because you can see the distinctive. So everything about it's so weird. They never believe that it was anti. Look at that. It's definitely a ring light. You can see the ring. Just say it. You can see it. Zoom in on his pupils. Zoom in on the pupils. I bet you can see a ring. You can definitely see a ring. You're right. That's the tail. And, and. They will never admit what they did. All right. Yeah, they won't. No. Let's play this. This is James Comey bragging about what he did to General Michael Flynn, 251. You look at this White House now, and it's hard to imagine two FBI agents ending up in the sit room. How did that happen? I sent them.

something we probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation, more organized administration, in the George W. Bush administration, for example, or the Obama administration, the protocol, two men that all of us have perhaps increased appreciation for over the last two years. And in both of those administrations, there was process. And so if the FBI... wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior official. You would work through the White House counsel, and there'd be discussions and approvals, and who would be there. And I thought it's early enough. Let's just send a couple guys over. Yeah, it's just, it really gets it. Whether he goes to jail or not, like, we really need to make sure that James Comey has just remembered for what an, like, odious and very hubristic, like, self-important figure he was, that he's just this one. He's called the Cardinal. Yeah, he just thinks he's a guy. That is exactly right. This is why this is so satisfying. And I'm trying not to give into this, like, this visceral urge just to dunk on him and be like, extraordinarily joyous but you're hitting on exactly right he's so pretentious and smug and and go on and and like not just smug It's that he really sees himself as like the main character of an espionage novel or a movie or a TV show. So it's like you think of all these other episodes like in the 2016 election. Remember, he was a liberal villain first. And it's because he's so self-importantly injecting himself into everything. I'm going to go on TV and I'm going to announce whether we're indicting Hillary and no one is going to know. And I even Obama is going to know. And I'm going to then reopen, dramatically reopen the investigation the week before. but, you know, it's not going to matter. And then I think he's even said, I cannot find where this was. I'm pretty sure he basically said, I, you know, began to suspect Trump might be a Russian agent when I saw him on the podium saying, like, you know, that thing where he was like, oh, Vladimir Putin should find Hillary's emails. And every dumb person, including the head of the FBI, it turns out, is like, is he communicating directly with Vladimir Putin? Like, just the stupidest people in the world. Didn't he claim that he never saw Trump laugh? Like, I remember James Comey saying that. This is Lane Schoenberger, Chief Investment Officer and founding partner of Y Refai. It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us. His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come. Now, hear Charlie, in his own words, tell you about Y-R-R-R-R-E-F-Y-F-Y. I'm going to tell you guys about Y-R-R-E-F-Y-F-Y. I'm going to tell you guys about Y-R-E-F-Y-FY-Fi-Fi-E-FY-FI-E-FYFI-FI-LONES. You can finally take control of your student loan situation with a plan that works for your monthly budget.

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Had a good conversation with them for a few minutes. And I'd love to have more conversations like that. And I think a lot of people are. Yeah. No, that's really good. So thank you guys. That's the point. And guess what? We have reactions from MSNBC. Oh, yes. They're losing their minds over at MSNBC. And we all know that Charlie loved to watch that. And I'm sure he's watching it right now. Do we have clip? 253. Today, there were reports that she was also doubtful about this case. While she doesn't mention it by name, I'll read exactly what you see here. No one is above the law. Today's indictment reflects DOJ's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American public. That is how she puts it, again, the effort on and the attention on misleading that rising, according to the DOJ indictment to what they're going to argue is a criminal level, a false statements charge was Joyce. You were just explaining requires meeting a certain bar of materiality. We don't have the indictment yet, but the reporting... prior was that this was reference to James Comey answering a question about the general news and leaks policy at DOJ and basically whether he was fully briefed on Clinton-related matters. With our final 30 seconds, your final thoughts. Well, look, I think this is a good moment for us to all... Before we jump to conclusions, wait to see the indictment, wait to see the response from James Comey's team, there are still barriers in the criminal justice system that prevent miscarriage of justice. A grand jury has decided that they will issue an indictment here, apparently. But there are other issues going forward, including a judge and a jury. Let's let the system work like it's intended to. Right. We're going to get a hold of the paper. We're going to be following this. But it is an extraordinary news event to have the former FBI director indicted it, especially under these terms. Thank you, Joyce. Thanks for watching. Breaking coverage continues. It looks like, I mean, I'm not going to say that, but like, Ari Melver. What's the matter, Ari? What's the matter? What's the matter? What's the matter? Something wrong, Ari, something the matter. Just, you know, we got to let the legal system play out, but there are, you know. He's already defending him, though. I know that in the, Blake, I know you picked up on that. He's like, he's like, well, the briefing was it didn't. He might not have been briefed on the Clinton properly. That's clearly what it was. Might not be briefed on Clinton when he personally made the decision of whether to prosecute or not. Like. He's the director of the FBI. And by the way, when you, like, uh, I don't think any of us in here have done this, but, you know, for anyone who's done like any deposition, another of us have been brief before. Charlie used to talk about when he went to testify to the J6 committee.

Me too. Yeah, and Tyler as well. So Tyler, let me ask. Did I actually, I forgot that you did? Yeah, we were in. I love. I love Charlie. Charlie was, wasn't it like, so. Were you born on October 14th? Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. But Tyler, did you just go up there and did your lawyers just let you go in there and wing it? No. No, no. You prep. You go over documents. You have to do. Well, our prep was really easy. No, I know that. But I mean, but I mean, pleaded the fifth. No, I know. But at the same time, like. you have to do your due diligence. No, for sure. And I'm about to go over. I'm about to go in again to have to fight the AG here. And, you know, your lawyers are with you throughout that entire thing, both in any interview, if you get subpoenaed or if you have to go in and, you know, testify to a grand jury or then ultimately testify to a jury or whatever it is. I mean, there's a tremendous amount of prep that goes into all these things. Right. And that's why any good lawyer before they ask you, before you answer a yes or no question like that. They'll say, hey, you know, can you clarify that question? Can you, you know, are you sure this is what you're asking out? Because you know that if it's, if it's in court, that's perjury. And if you're in Congress, that's lying to Congress. You're breaking a federal law. And so, yes, you do prep and you, and of court, oh, he wasn't briefed properly. And Ari's not stupid, right? Ari's not a stupid guy. He knows exactly what he's doing. It's like, oh, it was the briefers. They, they were the ones who screwed up. And by the way. And by the way. These guys have limitless resources for this. This isn't like a guy getting, again, like in our situation. Well, he was private individual when he testified. I get it. But he's surrounded by layers of attorneys the best in the world. I think he's out of law firm right now. I mean, you can make the argument that the best and deepest and most aggressive attorneys are all within the D.C. metro area. They all. That's where they all live and survive. And you can bet that the best possible guys were provided to him by everyone who hated the Trump. They all take care of each other. So this is just a farce. Like it's just a made up thing. It's like it's not a real thing. They're just, they're full of, and the other thing that Ari Melberg goes, he says, well, he was, he was answering a general statement about the leak policy. It wasn't a general statement about the leak policy. It was specific leaks of a specific instance on a specific article. And that Ari Melburgh is already sitting up there. He's, this is what they do every time. The same thing Jimmy Kimmel did the other day, the same thing that you saw leftists do in the, in the wake of the, uh, when. You know, when I reported that it was the anti-ice on the bullets and then you had the picture that came out, they just start lying. They just straight up start lying. Let's read President Trump's truth on this. First, real quick, just because it disappears quick. Jay McGuire donated a dollar and asked, have we seen the fearless tour at all? And how are they treated at the Tennessee? Yeah, he got, I mean, all they were doing was having it. I watched the whole video. We should have them on next week and we will. Tomorrow's show's all packed out already, but. maybe Monday Tuesday. The, yeah, I mean, it was a complete joke. They were having civil debates on an HBCU and a crowd sort of gathers and then chases them off and they're getting hurled insults for their hat. I think they were wearing MAGA hats and they had to be escorted off with police to keep them safe. So their name is fearless to her and you know, God bless them. I love I love that people are going back into the

into the lion's den and doing this and and it's and i'm i'm proud of them and we'll talk to them we'll probably have them on the on the show so uh truth here from two 54 uh this is uh president trump's truth socially says justice in america all caps exclamation point One of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to is James Comey, the former corrupt head of the FBI. Today he was indicted by a grand jury on two felony counts for various illegal and unlawful acts. He has been so bad for our country for so long and is now at the beginning of being held responsible for his crimes against our nation. Make America great again. So there you go, Blake. I know you love when the politicians chime in on the legal proceedings. You know, it's it, I would just caution people that the stuff you do now, perplex statements, it can be very satisfying in the moment. But among other things, I don't think it increases your chances of getting an actual conviction. This is, and I'm just going to say this as well, that this is a very direct. issue that has been brought up in the Luigi Mangione case right now, where there is a motion from the defense team to knock the death penalty off because of Twitter activity by members of Department of Justice officials, retweets and different things like this. So, hey. I mean, I have some sympathy in that instance simply because Luigi Mangione. premeditated an assassination against a CEO, the United Healthcare CEO, to bring justice to a cold-blooded assassin is... You know, I feel like morally there's a lot of leg to stand on. No, I know, but I'm saying that like, you have to get that past the judge. Yes, exactly. And, and a judge can just rule, oh, this violates whatever vague standard. And boom, no more death penalty. Yeah, just that can go away that easily. And you know, someone says, you know, someone said in the discussion, they said, yeah, we just regarding this, nothing better than a Trump truth. I got to disagree. There is something better. Convicting James Comey for all of the horrible things. Putting James Comey away for 20 years. That is good. maximize the odds of that. And if anything else you're doing hurts the odds of that. Yeah, let's go. Let's do it. I mean, the president's going to be the president. Trump will be Trump. Can we, yeah, let's go play. Let's, let's hate watch some more MSNBC losing their is 255. They're white, Andrew. So that selective prosecution piece is augmented or buffeted by the fact that the president was tweeting out. Do it. Go after him. And maybe if Lindsey Halligan was actually a prosecutor and actually knew some law, she would have said, Mr. President, we're going to have a problem here.

Yeah. Kendallanian, who had some of the original reporting on the fact that we were expecting this indictment and on this timeline, so that proved accurate. We are now hearing from the Attorney General and from the director of the FBI. This is what Pam Bondi posted on X. No one is above the law. Today's indictment reflects this Department of Justice's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American people. We will follow the facts in this case. I want you to take that, Ken. side by side with what FBI director Kash Patel posted on X. Today, your FBI took another step in its promise of full accountability. For far too long, previous corrupt leadership and their enablers weaponized federal law enforcement, damaging once proud institutions, and severely eroding public trust. I hear that sigh. I feel it too, guys. Every day we continue the fight to earn that trust back. And under my leadership, this FBI will confront the problem head on. is this politicization of law enforcement more blatant than during the Russiagade hoax? A disgraceful chapter in history, we continue to investigate and expose. Everyone, especially those in positions of power, will be held to account no matter their perch. No one is above the lot. You'll forgive me, Ken, because getting through that propaganda was a little bit difficult. But given that there was reporting earlier that Pam... Oh, they're losing. You can't even, you can't listen to this stuff. It's just, you know, at least I'll give Abby Phillips over at CNN some props here because at least she'll have like Scott Jennings on or someone who disagrees. But what is the point of having a panel on MSNBC where everyone has the exact same opinion? This is exactly why we have our DEI hire Blake here. Because like, like Blake is. contrarian he's blackfield blake like you want that back and forth like not just for the political polarization part of it but it's just better tv don't you think well so there's by the way there's multi i totally agree i love it when blake kind of gives me something to think about by the way there's there's uh there's so there's two charges here right Blake he's on two counts yeah yeah obstruction yeah obstruction would be the lying about the leaking I think both are the lie they just kind of tagged him twice right so false statement and then the obstruction because he told the false statement so there's another clip going around that you know James Comey told Congress on September 30th 2020 could be one of the lies that was told. James Comey said he had never authorized anyone within the FBI to be a, quote, anonymous source about the Trump-Russia investigation. So this, and he told that to Senator Ted Cruz, so let's go ahead and play that, 257. Chairman Chuck Grassley asked you point blank, quote, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation? You responded under oath, quote, never. He then asked you, quote, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration? You responded again under oath, no.

Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal. Who's telling the truth? I can only speak to my testimony. I stand by what the testimony you summarized that I gave. I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today. So he stood by the fact that he never did. never authorized anyone within the FBI to be in an anonymous source. So you were standing by the previous. Yes. So that wasn't the previous testimony that he gave to Chuck Grassley. So he's saying he stands by it at that point. We have another message. American Patriot 3531. We love the Patriots. Yes, we do every American Patriot. Donated 50. God bless Erica, family, and you all. I never met Charlie, but I felt I knew him. I saw him on the Ingramangle when he first started. He's grown so fast and became something bigger than all of us. It's completely true. Amen. He's a great man. And, you know, we've heard that over and over. So many people never met him or only shook hands with him, but they really felt they knew him. They felt close to him. And Michael still sucks. Michael, Michael Steele. Michael Steele. That guy, Michael Steele just feels like, I can't believe you still. Remember that gets put on TV? It's insane. No, this is literally what I was just saying, the MSNBC Republicans. It's disgusting. That's precisely who they are. It's, it's, you're just like a self-hating Republican. It's like crazy to me. Like, that's how bad we work. That's how bad the R&C is. And by the way, he was someone who was treated horrifically by the left. You remember the Oreos, right? Yeah. That this is something. He was called an Oreo like, like. black on the outside, one in the inside is what they said. And they pelted him with Oreos. Was that at one of the RNCs or something? Yeah. When he was walking, some protests were pelting him with Oreos. And yet now he's hanging out on that side. So, Yarvin had this thing earlier. I don't know if you saw it. Blake where he was saying there there are not two left there is only one left and I and I really like that there's only one left and we keep sort of playing this game or like no there's the good ones and it's like where where we have Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama saying what they say all the time I just I don't know having trouble finding it I don't disagree Having trouble finding it. But, you know, I will, I will just accept at this point a lefty that doesn't believe that violence is justified, which is increasingly rare. Hey, wait, we talk about junk. How do you say? Jank. Jank. Jank. Like Jenkins. Like Jenkins. Oh, by the way. Ugar. Apparently, Rav, like, bleep me out every time I said, chank.

I love it's really it's really funny about that just because no you were just saying chank though you did one time say no I did say I was reading the you did say a no no word at one point I did say no no I didn't it didn't even occur to me I was like I was like Andrew it's sunk sunk I'm like trying to try to get you past that one buddy and I was like I immediately was like I'm so sorry how many different ways would it be possible to pronounce that man's name I wonder if it could be like could you hit like a A hundred. Sank. It's like janky. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is it short for anything? I have no idea. Could it be like, like, is it like jankalicious? Ooh. Jankula. There's only really one way to find out. We have to demand his birth certificate. Count Jankula. Count Jankula. Nice. Yes, going with that. So. What a, I mean, I think we've gotten through. I think we've gotten through the, the, I think we've gotten through the, the, I, I do kind of want to just, uh, to cover the, the Cubs thing just, let me, right. I know you want to, but, but let me, let me just add this, this final piece here while we're on, on James Comey. It's, you have to restore. the scales of justice to balance. You have to do that. And you must do it using the iron law of exact reciprocity. It has to be done to the people who wielded government power for ill-gotten. ends. This is exactly what James Comey was doing. It was McCabe. There were so many of them. And gosh, I was just looking. I was running like a Twitter search on Charlie's tweets. And he's got the lists over and over. Over and over. Charlie was calling for this. Over and over, Charlie said, why were so many of our people indicted for this when James Comey did the exact same thing? And I'm sure Charlie knew exactly the dates and times that he did it. And of course, Of course, Charlie can't play a part in this because of what was done to him. And so when the pressure is being applied in one direction, the pressure of state power, like we saw for four years straight, including, by the way, to the turning point organization itself, both, well, I'll just say through investigation upon investigation that was opened up. And I know there's more that's going to be coming out on the FBI investigation. And. if you don't if you don't respond if you don't do anything to balance it out they're just going to do it again it's like little kids Yeah, no, I think that's really very clear. We've been looking for a balancing of the scales. And you have to have mutually assured destruction in a democracy for both sides to treat the other with respect. Like if you step out of line, we are not so cowardly as to not hold you accountable. Despite what MSNBC is going to say that it's the end of democracy, which they notably were not saying when.

Our border was open, and political opponents of the left, we're getting indicted left and right. Go ahead, Blake. You'll like this one, Jack. Rafinas gave five and says, in honor of James Comey, Taylor Swift, we'll rename her next tour, the indictments era. Thank you, Rafinas. All right, let's get to Shaw. All right, all right. I just really wanted to hit this. No, I wanted to as well. So Matt Shaw is what it is? Yes. So Matt Shaw is a player on the Cubs. I think he's a rookie. So that means he's a player like in the age range of, you know, the core demographic that Charlie went for. And he'd met Charlie. He knew Charlie. I think they actually even lived in the same. facility uh place for a while but i don't know if i've seen that reported i don't know if it's the case but so he had met charlie he'd known charlie he saw him at a game once and then he wanted so he attended the memorial he was invited uh by erika directly is what reporting says and so he went to the memorial now for those of you who don't know baseball baseball plays 160 games a year. They're playing almost every day. So he had to miss a game to do that. The Cubs are going to the playoffs. They, in fact, have already clinched a playoff spot. They're still fighting for a position. So a lot of... I do have to call them people, don't it? A lot of people lost their absolute minds about this. Wait, I thought we were talking about Reditors. Yeah, yeah, good point. We need a, we need a... There's a video on this, right? Can we have Robert F. Kennedy Jr., like, investigate whether Reditors are, like, fully the same species as human beings? Oh, but yeah, we have a video. Yeah, let's play the video, because this is kind of what sparked it. I don't have the exact number here. 226. This is an announcer reacting to it. Are you concerned about the backlash because there was a lot of politics about this? Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I'm not concerned at all, no. My connection to Charlie was through our faith. That's something that drives me every day. That's the reason why I'm able to do what I do every day, and that's something I'm extremely thankful for. I know without my faith and without the many blessings I've been given in my life that I wouldn't be here, able to talk to you guys, able to help this team eventually go and win championships. So that's something I feel really, really blessed about. So, you know, whatever backlash comes is okay. You know, I feel strong about my faith and that was meant to be happening. My bet. I thought I was getting a different one there. But no, that's actually a very good one really is. So the backlash, which I also want to show here, is this started with. an announcer on, I think he was the Mets announcer, but was calling the game and he commented on it as Matt was batting the following day, so in a Monday's game. So let's play that as well, 227. Shaw had Cubs World in a Tizzy this weekend when he was not here for the Cubs game with the Reds.

Game they lost one nothing and in which his lack of presence was felt. It was later revealed that he had been given permission to attend Charlie Kirk's funeral. And I don't want to talk about any of the politics of it, but the thought of leaving your team in the middle of a race. for any reason other than a family emergency really strikes me as weird. He was super, super supportive of us and obviously someone who's really faithful, so we connected on that front as well. But, yeah, I mean, his wife, Erica, had texted me, asking me if I would come to the funeral. And, you know, I felt as though it was something that was really important for me to do. Well, and by the way, throw up 258. So I literally just put this picture into the chat from my own phone. I was with Charlie on the field. This is probably a month or five weeks ago. And this is us on the field at Wrigley. and Matt Shaw's right there. Matt lives in Arizona, and they run into each other in Phoenix. And so we're at the game, and after they won, I think they won four three that day, we went down to the field, and two of the Cubs players, one of which was Matt, came, and they took a picture, and they chatted, and it was wonderful. It was just a really nice moment. And actually, when we posted that picture, it got some controversy as well. But, you know, it was fine, whatever. And so, I mean, I just feel connected personally to this story. And one other thing, just, you know, Matt Shaw did not mention that in that clip. But Charlie was such a huge Cubs fan. It's so, like, he grew up worshipping the Cubs. And that's why I think on many levels, he was just so excited to have a relationship with some of the Cubs players. It's a beautiful thing. That was literally one of his favorite days that he's had in a long time. Because, again, also, and people forget this, like, Charlie had become such a big personality. It's hard for him to go and do fun things. Like, it really, like, in many ways, right? Like, how we were telling the story about you guys being out and about. and South Korea and like how but him being out there again his love for the Cubs and being at games especially with Erica and family and he took a lot of those videos and he and he could go to games like he went to spring training and a few games this year and like it's just I just I just know he would talk about like he was so excited to look forward so forward to those things like Christmas that announcer is a total jerk what a jerk like oh it just strikes me it's really weird well you strike me as a jerk yeah oh he missed he missed the heck in sporting game because a person who was a friend of his was murdered not just a friend of his but then like a worldwide icon and he got his I you know I'll skip the worldwide icon personal friend my friend was murdered I would like to go to his memorial the widow has asked me to attend

And they're freaking out. Oh, it's really weird. He'd miss a freaking playoff for the cops. Imagine it had a freak show. That's disgusting. Has that guy been fired? He should be. Why is that guy not? I know that. I candidly, like, that guy should get suspended from his job for saying something like that. What a cold-hearted jerk. Charlie, take the politics out of it. Charlie was murdered. Okay, this is a murder. This is the murder of someone that a lot of people knew, that a lot of people were, where he was beloved by many. I'm not the word for that is. And he was a human being that people actually knew in real life. That's a shocking. It took me a second to like realize, but it started sitting here thinking about it as you were talking to him. I'm like, That heck, actually? Like, who the hell is this guy? And what is his problem? Like, who hurt you when you were a little kid that you don't understand, like, yeah, we should actually blow this up a little bit because it's shocking. No, when you mentioned the Cubs, I didn't realize that's what the audio was. Oh, that was the Mets announcer. Or the Mets announcer. But he said Cubs story, and I was like, I didn't hear anything about a Cubs story. And then, like, that's what it is in the headline. And I hadn't heard it before just now. This is insane. This is insane. Right? Like. And when MLK was assassinated, they actually delayed all MLB games for two days. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So when MLK was assassinated, they delayed all MLB games for two days. And it was originally, so Roberto Clemente. And he was the president, which is understandable. No, MLK. Ah, we got a name. And Roberto Clemente actually had organized some Pittsburgh players to take a day off over that. And then. Sorry, I just got the name of the announcer. Yeah. His name is Gary Cohen. Gary Cohen from the New York Mets. What a jerk. Gosh, I want to use different words. Absolutely jerk. I'm trying to... He's trying to, like, center myself. He's a crumb creep. He's a crumb bump. There's just all this, like, incredibly, incredibly nasty stuff online. So I was, I posted on, on X earlier, some, like, excerpts from the Reddit thread about it where there's all these. So you just have to know, a lot of Redditors are, like, very creepy, so I people. They were celebrating Charlie's death when it happened. I had the screen caps to prove it. And so here it's like, Mr. Ferguson, cultist gonna cult. uh we have let's see what else this has to rank up there with the weirdest missed games right does anyone have a list of interesting absences yes it's very interesting he wanted to go to the memorial of his friend who was murdered all for some effing podcaster lm f ao f the team i guess Geez, folks, this is what we're up against. We're up against the fried mental model that's even being promoted by hopefully a soon-to-be unemployed sports announcer, just a complete douchebag who wants to sit there and say, oh, that's weird? That's weird. Gary?

Is that a little weird Gary? Strikes me as weird that you'd want to bury your friend. Yeah. Hold me J420. How can someone be teammates with this jerk? Like, what does he think about his Hispanic teammates? Unfathomably stupid person here. No, think about it. By the way, by the way, the Cubs can't win the division. It's already locked down by the Brewers. But they have clinched a playoff spot. They've clinched a playoff spot, and they're eight games ahead in the wildcard standing. But I want to be clear, the comments Blake is reading were not all said by Gary. No, no, no. These are Reddit comments. Only the clip we showed was Gary. This is people reacting to it on a website of. Supporting it. Supporting it. Yeah. And just agreeing like, oh, it's so weird or bad. This is what we're up against, folks. These are the people who are celebrating Charlie's murder. These are the people sitting up there and saying, oh, it's weird. It's weird to miss a game because your friend was murdered and you're going to a memorial. Someone that you knew in real life, a personal contact of yours was brutally murdered on live television. Blake was standing just a few feet away from this. And we're sitting there acting like it's just, oh, some other news cycle or some other political cycle. And I knew this was going to happen. I knew this was going to happen. It was going to become this litmus test on Charlie and the people who like Charlie and all this stuff. But guys like Gary up there sitting up there just like guys with Jimmy Kimmel. And I'm going to say it, Joe Rogan, who I called out yesterday because he was being flipping about it too. He didn't care, you know, about what actually happened. No. You are not, no. If you are, if you are coming at this with like, I don't really get it. Well, it's weird. Okay, then just shut up. Yeah. That's all you have to do if you don't get it. Somebody was murdered. No, I'll say, come here. Come here. Come here. This is crazy. Come here and go tell that to Erica. Yeah. This is weird. This is what I'm realizing, Gary. Gary. Gary. Gary. Gary. So this is what I'm realizing, though, is that the entirety of this story is Matt Shaw on defense. When. The truth of this story is that this Gary Cohen guy needs to be on defense because he's actually in the wrong. Matt Shaw was in the right. His friend was murdered in a political assassination, the likes of which this country has not seen since the 1960s. Yes, he's our friend and brother in this, but they were actual friends that texted all the time. They live next to each other in Arizona. Charlie's a big Cubs fan. They hung out weeks before on the field in Wrigley. Good point, Tyler. The game doesn't, whether they win or lose, it changes nothing. Nothing for the standing. And not only that, but Erica had reached out and personally invited him and asked him to come. It gets better. This is a, this is from Caitlin Bennett, who once upon time worked for us. It's a long story. She posted, I totally missed all this. I was busy yesterday with everything else going on. New York's Metz broadcaster Gary Cohen, who missed the game earlier when his dog died. calls it weird that a cosplayer missed a game to attend Charlie's funeral. So apparently Gary Cohen had missed a game when his dog died. Is that verified? It's, yeah. I can put this up. Send that in the chat. We'll get it up. Isn't that crazy? What outlet is that? Can you tell or is it? But it's not even about like why someone lost their job. It's about people making light of what happened to Charlie. And I am going to draw the line over it. And I don't care if I'd lose.

bookings or whatever it's just it's wrong what you're doing is wrong and i don't care for jimmy kimmel or jo rogan or gary cohen whoever i'm going to call all of you out because it's sick okay what happened to charlie is sick it's not funny it's not the brunt of a joke it's not something to be made light of and it's certainly not weird that people would be great think about what that does to everyone here in this building beyond charlie's family and the immediacy but the people in this building the people of turning point the turning point kids that it's like saying if something happens to you and people care well that's weird gosh this is from this year too that's weird 21st 2025 literally this year i can't believe you missed a game gary cohen that strikes me as really weird for your dog's death oh i'm sorry i mean i know we got a lot of pet lovers out here and candidly i wouldn't care except for friend gets murdered wife calls and asks you to come it's crazy and you you miss a game you miss a game because your dog died you coward you you oh my god you're so out of touch i which by the way i'm the worst words are coming to mine and i'm i'm bearing them because i i'm i'm not i'm nothing against people mourning their i have nothing against that of course it's just like how how dare he come out against shah it's crazy Well, no, it's, by the way, and we have a phone number here. I know it's, I know it's, I know it's like 923. Oh, it's up. Yeah, if you want to call the Mets on the East Coast right now. But while you're out of it, you can complain about the Mets melting down. If you're, well, let's say the number. Let's say the number. Yeah. Since if you're listening to this later or during the week, 866-239-1284. It's 866-239-1-284. You should just call and let them know. that you think Gary Cohen is a dirt bag. And that's fine. And tell him that, you know, goodness, like have some humanity, have some heart. Get in touch with your, like, emotions. Pray, Gary. Because something's wrong with you if you've got a problem with somebody going to their friend's funeral that was just murdered in cold blood. And by the way, that transformed the shape and trajectory of the history of this country. Less than six months ago, Gary skipped a game because his dog died. Less than six months ago. Yeah. Anyways, I listen, I don't know Gary Cohen. Maybe he's, maybe he's nice and this was a bad moment, okay? I'm just going to surmise that my instincts tell me that if you are this much of a dirt bag to say this about somebody. just off the cuff that like probably there's something there's something more more he could apologize to erika he should he could apologize he should apologize to matt shot just apologize just apologize leave her out of this but like you know apologize to matt he's a good guy How about an apology, Gary? It's not that hard. I'm sorry. And not in private, by the way, in public. A public apology. Apologize, Gary. So the Mets are making the playoffs. The Mets are in the playoffs right now, but are kind of at risk of blowing it. Cubs are in for sure. And they're just fighting for seating when they're in. They're the last spot. Yeah, we have a Rumble Rant. Yeah, we have a Rumble Rant. Yeah, let's read a few of these. I think we have three of them to go here. So first of all, Blue used to be cool.

gave 20. Thank you for continuing Charlie's legacy. I am a 45-year-old Wisconsinite who owes Charlie and TPSA for helping me get off the sidelines and doorknock and get involved. The Tyler's people. I will never sit idle again. God bless you. Blue used to be cool. Blue did used to be cool and I'm still butt hurt to this day that thanks to the 2000 election, we got stuck with blue as the liberal color and red as the conservative color. I like blue better as a color. What year was that? 2000. You're 2000. That's kind of what solidified. They used to swap them back and forth. And blue is the right wing color everywhere else. It's the royal color. Red is the comedy color. I have never liked that we got stuck with that. But yeah, that's how it is. But thank you. And everyone else. One of the best ways you can honor Charlie is to get involved yourself. That's what you would always tell people to do. Don't be a passive consumer. Don't just watch live streams like this one. Get out there. Do things. Talk to people. You know. Whip the votes of your family, of your neighborhood, of your friends. Which, by the way, we have something coming up. So door knocking here in Arizona. We're going to have opportunities. We're going to be talking about them. I'm posting about them. But we have some in Arizona this next month. The mission continues. KDP gave 10. I am dedicating a chaplet. For y'all's peace and protection. You are all such good men. Take care of yourselves. Did y'all see Scooball throw that 90 mile per hour baseball straight into that guy's face? I didn't see that. I don't know if they mean Shaw or someone else. I try to assume the best. I assume that was not intentional. That would be very nasty. As a baseball player, you know, throwing it people actually can be extraordinarily dangerous. So. I just, I actually have a lot of respect for baseball because that thing can do some damage, but, you know, so hopefully everybody's okay. I did not see this. DJ Galwitz gave 10. I know you're flooded with chapter requests. How can I request to organize a sanctioned homeschool co-op, turning point homeschool co-op, use the TPSA community to create a standard curriculum. Do we have? Yeah, we actually have specialty activism hubs that we do with homeschool. So. So the homeschool co-op, so through TP Turning Point Education, they actually work with homeschool groups directly. So you can go just search for Turning Point Education. They will help you with that. And then we also have chapters specifically for co-op. So if that's the question, and you just go right to TPUSA students.com, and you can start a chapter or a hub for homeschool. Great. I actually got something in just now that it's not a Rumble rant. And I can't say it because I don't know if I have permission to name it, say it, but I'm just going to say it that there is a person who I guess Charlie. So not a Redator. Talked to. Well, hold on on that. Talk to at one of the campus events. I'll leave it at that. And this person has said that Charlie was a huge motivation and says that they have decided to reenter the church, except Jesus, into their life and will be detransitioning. Wow. Whoa.

And said that because of everything that happened with Charlie, it had a huge impact on their life. And that's... Yeah. That's awesome. That's, that's an impact that Charlie, I have some more details, but I'm going to give it out. That's incredible. That's incredible. Because if they were on camera, I don't want to make it like a thing. Exactly. Exactly. But I think we're closing out here in a moment, but we got one last from Zuzu's Petals. Conservative Christian is the new normal. That is a, anyone know the reference? Zuzu's Petals. Yeah, from It's a Wonderful Life. There you go. It's a Wonderful Life. Oh. The greatest movies. Because it's when he gets back from when he gets back. He never existed. But then he says, I want to exist. And then he exists again. And he looks at his pocket. He's got Zuzu's Petals. Zuzes Pettles. They're there. Oh, yes. Mary, it's me, George. Mary, don't you know me? I love that. I love that movie so much. What a great movie. All right. Do you know that was filmed in Los Angeles? Was not filmed in New York? I did not know that. You ever seen those charts? No. And the, and the, and yeah. I almost named, I think we've had Zuzu's pedals actually contribute to us before because we talked about this. I almost named my youngest daughter Zuzu. Let's go. After it's wonderful life. That would have been great. I love how, by the way, I'm just going to say it since we haven't really done any thought crimes tonight, we'd have to do one, that when he goes to like the nightmarish upside down world and he looks up his wife, Mary, what is it, the Mangels Clarence? And he goes, he goes, oh, you don't want to see Mary. You don't want to see that, George. Why not? And he goes, he goes, she never married. She works at the library. She's a spinster. The worst possible. No. It's not his brother being dead. It's not his brother being dead. It's not his uncle being in the madhouse. He's okay with all that. This is the perfect place to wrap. But in the 1940s, that was a like a nightmareish outcome. Yeah, the value system. All right. It's a good place to wrap guys. So Jack, take us home. Wow, seriously. Jake. Okay, Andy. Jake Tapper? Ardrew. Jack Taper. I don't even know where to go with that one. Arthur, Colvette. Yeah, folks, what can I say? It is the second Thought Crime Thursday that we've done with our fifth member on assignment with God, and he's going to be on that assignment for a long time. Until we meet again. One last thing. And we're going to hold it down. Just someone sneaking it. You guys got to send these a little bit earlier. All right. All right. All right. Fisi, gifted five subscriptions. Ooh, now we're a real live stream show. People are gifting subscriptions. That's another thing you can do. Thank you very much. And then Benji 63. I think I've seen that name before too. He gave 20. I've never had many women to look up to in my life. But Erica has become. Number one, what a strong woman full of faith that every woman should strive to be like, God bless her and God bless her kids. Thank you, Benji so much. And we all, we all look up. I think we're all taller than Erica, but we all look up to it. I actually like these, the team in the studio is coming up with named. Kylie says, and Drizzle. I could, I could go with that. And Caboose says Admiral Andrew, which I'm, I'm going to fully endorse. Absolutely. No, absolutely. The Admiral? Sorry, the Naval guy over here is like, man. No, actually, you know, you know, well, you know what we call you, right?

I don't want to hear it. Let's wrap. No, it's good. It's good. We've a good one. Oh, you do? Yeah, it's AK-47. After your age. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we always call him AK-4. Yeah, we all call him AK-47. By the way, something, wait, just real quick. If he's 47, he looks great. Real quick on the chats, though, I was, I was guesting for Tim Poole a couple of days because he was sick before all this happened. And, um, One of the things I'd love for this to be, you know, if we could carry on the tradition here as well, one of the things that his subscribers or people do in the chat is they put in a super chat or a rumble rant from the delivery room when one of them has a baby or like their spouse has a baby or something. That's incredible. And it happens like a bunch, by the way. If you get engaged or have babies, we want to hear from you. And I guess I said three days in a row and it happened twice. with his audience that it had like in twice in three days which is like that is an incredible so good it's good we i like to honor and celebrate the good things and exactly 100 percent and i think the life giving things and the i think if i think if anything it's that we've learned of the last couple of eight days i was talking to dr drew today and you know he said the thing there's two there's two big issues right first is the new normal and you really do have to deal with the new normal and that's that's hard questions and we all have to deal with that And number two is the grief. And he said, you got to lean into grief. You can't deny it. You can't squelch it. You got to accept it and lean into it. And I think maybe in a sense, us staying on mission and staying on point is a way to do that. And I love the fact that the show is still going because... I don't know if I'd be able to do it without that. Without all you guys and without everybody being here. Yeah, it's been nice to have everybody around the office and around town. It's been a huge key part for me. I know that. Yeah, it's not about speeches or followers or tweets or whatever. It's about just being with your family, being with your people. Yeah, exactly. Got to do it. All right, folks, on that very non-thought-crimey note, we are going to go and remind you to go out there and commit more thought crime. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.