Eddie Scarry On The Democrat Party’s Collapse Into Anti-Americanism

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And we are back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle's senior elections correspondent at The Federalist and your experience Sherpa on today's quest for knowledge. As always, you can email the show at Radio at the Federalist.com. Follow us on X at FDRLST. Make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast and, of course, to the premium version of our website as well. Our guest today is Eddie Scary. D.C. columnist at The Federalist and author of the fantastic new book, Traders, The Democrat Parties, Collapse into Anti-American Filth. Eddie, thanks so much for joining us on this edition. on the Federalist Radio. Matt, it's the honor of a lifetime. Well, I don't know about that. We'll see as the show progresses, but it is an honor to, you know, you're one of the greats at the Federalist. One of my colleagues there, and I absolutely enjoy working with you and reading you on a daily basis at the Federalist, you know, putting. Your very interesting perspective on what is happening in D.C. and beyond, you know, one of the things I like from the very beginning of your book is that some authors, you know, they like to, you know, go gently into the subject matter. With your title in this book, there is no mincing of words. You get right to it. How did you decide on this title? I think, you know, the body of the work explains exactly what you're talking about here. But how did you come to traitors? The Democrat Party has collapsed into anti-American filth. Well, just like past books, including my last one, which was titled Liberal Misery, How the Hateful Left Sucks Joy Out of Everything and Everyone. It's one of those things where you come up with an original thought and you're really kind of, and it's usually for me, it's the thought is something that. I decided on it as a title because it's a thought I've literally been having over and over again. I just keep having that thought. And then I decide that would make a really good idea for a book. And then I think that that would be the title. But then for one reason or another, you kind of realize that it doesn't quite hit. You need to maybe boil it down. Or in this case, I'm not sure. what it was before I had traitors, but I do know instead of anti-American filth, I had anti-American squalor. And I loved that word. I loved the word squalor. In fact, the president himself just used it the other day, referring to, I believe either D.C., like it had to do with him sending in the guard to reinforce, you know, law enforcement. I don't remember if he was referring to D.C. or Chicago, but...

I love that word, but I ran it by a few people, smart people, but one person didn't know what that word meant, another one who's an editor. He said that that word is grammatically not right. So I came up with Phil, but the whole title itself captures the theme really well of the book. I think it does. I think in filth, absolutely is fitting here. You write this. You can't love this country and what it stands for, what men and women have died for. And at the same time, hold the views of the modern liberal. The two are incompatible. And you go back through time over the last several years in this country. You really focus on what we just experienced in 2024. But what we have seen now... Over the last several days, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, cold-blooded assassination, was bad enough, but the response from liberals on college campuses and throughout much of society, I think really drives home. that point that you make that you can't love this country and what it stands for and at the same time hold the views of the modern liberal. Let's talk a little bit about that because I think that is ultimately the premise and the core of this book. Yeah, and in a very depressing way for my book to come out just as Charlie Kirk was assassinated, murdered in cold blood, publicly executed. And then to see just as you were saying, I think what hurt other than the obvious, it's an obvious tragedy. but to see the reaction afterward, particularly on social media, I don't think that we've seen Democrats. and liberals behave this way, this exact way until now. And I only just thought about this the other day. When there was something like, you know, Rush Limbaugh dying or before, if something bad happened to a prominent Republican, you would have these liberals who would go on the comment section of a website, but usually anonymously. They wouldn't have their picture there. It would be some kind of username that's not their actual name. Or they might have, worse case,

scenario. They might have a Facebook. And so their friends and family knows who they are, but it's private. So you're not really seeing it. But now with their full face, with their full name in their bio, will have where they work, where they live, what, you know, details about their personal lives. They'll go on TikTok, show their face and just with absolute glee celebrate something tragic. deadly, violent happening to someone who they opposed politically. That is nothing I have seen before. If it ever happened before, certainly not to this degree. And I really do think that was why it was very painful to people who maybe are on the same side as Charlie Kirk, but don't know him, don't know him personally. And you just kind of saw yourself in him and thinking, wow, is that what they would do if it happened to me? And that's truly anti-American behavior. And going back just real quick to the book, the fundamental facts, when you look at the positions that Democrats take, whether it's on crime, whether it's on immigration, whether it has to do with the economy, what it has to do with our elections, what it has to do with civil rights, free speech, what it ultimately comes down to is. They don't believe that everyone is created equal, that everyone should have the same rights, that everyone should get to enjoy the same things. They simply do not believe it. And if you don't believe that everyone is created equal and deserves, maybe are not entitled to those things. Obviously, there are differences in how much money someone has, how much the ability that a person has to secure things for themselves. But they at least have the right to pursue it. And it is just plainly true. Again, with the positions that Democrats hold on any given issue, at any given time, anything that they say, the things that they say, the things they profess to believe, they do not believe that we're all created equal and deserve the same right to pursue the things that everyone else has. I think that's a very good point. Just to follow up on that, I have a theory because I don't think it's, it is definitely anti-American. You're absolutely right about that. I think it's anti-human. I mean, it is inhuman to cheer on the cold-blooded murder of anyone. And now in this realm of... what has been described, I think rightly, as assassination culture on the left. I mean, to take a look at some of the very frightening studies about justification for the assassination for conservative leaders in this country, chief among them, of course, President Donald Trump. And it is a very, very frightening time in America. But I want to ask you, where do you think all of this begin? How did we get here? My thought is that it has much to do with the genuflecting on the left at the temple of equity. Because you mentioned equality, which is something that, you know.

all kinds of folks on the right and left have fought for throughout the course of this great republic. But now, over the last several years, we've gotten the terms, these Marxist terms, quite frankly, anti-racism, which doesn't mean what you think it means, of course. You have equity and equality goes out the window. How do you think we got here? DEI have much to do with us, in your opinion? Oh, absolutely. And I think that that was really set in motion under Obama. And I don't want to necessarily attribute it to the Obama and Obama administration, though I'm sure that there are very strong cases for that. There were certainly things that he did and said during his presidency that exacerbated racial tensions and flamed people's emotions over race for sure. But I think there was this thing that was kind of humming in the background. And I wrote about this in a previous book called Privileged Victims. And it was this notion taking hold on the left that your grievances based on your gender identity, your race, those things are paramount. And if you can claim some kind of grievance, it doesn't matter what anybody says to you. And it doesn't matter what shortcomings you, what personal shortcomings you might have. You're entitled to things. You're entitled to money. You're entitled to attention, financial gain. And that took holds on the left. And again, that by very definition is to say that we're not created equal. They were not created equal. And they're saying it, they're saying somewhat of a similar thing, but in a very perverse way, they're saying, well, no, we are created equal, but you've made this so unfair. You have to compensate for that. And so you're going to give up your positions. You're going to give up your money for my benefit, purely, purely, because I'm able to claim some kind of grievance. And you see that there's this whole professional class out there, millionaires overnight. over talking about white supremacy, a complete fiction in this country, at least, talking about, you know, white supremacy, white nationalism, all that is just a complete lie, complete fiction, but these people became millionaires overnight. And so, yes, that has a lot to do with it. And then it ran that whole concept taking place. It ran into Donald Trump. It ran into the election of Donald Trump. And that really set things, you would think, I guess, counterintuitively. It really set them on fire. They really went in on that. And it climaxed in 2020 with the George Floyd fiery, but mostly peaceful race riots. And after that, they...

They had some success. They had some success. They took an election. But now we're seeing that in retreat. And yet it's not going down without a fight because Donald Trump really represents the opposite. He. He genuinely believes, and it's seen in his policies, his advocacy, that everyone's created equal and everyone deserves a shot. And take your shot. Instead of the left, which says, no, we are not. You don't get to have the things that I have. You hear it in the way they talk, by the way. And in their actions in the way they talk, one of my favorite quotes is from John Kerry. You know, the former, you know, Democrat nominee, also the, I'm just saying this for your listeners. And then the former senator, I think he was also the Secretary of State. And then he also played, I believe he played Herman Munster on the classic 60s show, The Monsters, if you recall. Yes, yes. Looks very, very strikingly, eerily similar. But when he was asked at a, you know, he goes to those climate junkets and, you know, flies around the world on his massive private planes. And for these climate conferences where he tells everyone that they have to, you know, wear an extra sweater, throw another log on the fire because you can't have electric heat or anything. They asked them, they said, why do you fly private? Shouldn't you be flying commercial because of the CO2? And he said, I'll never forget it. He said, someone like me can't do that. And what he's saying is, I'm special. I'm different than you. I get to do this. And also, you're going to pay for it. You pay for me to do this because I'm different and I'm special. That's the way they behave. And it's very, again, anti-American.

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You have the federal bureaucracy telling the country you cannot leave your homes. If you do, people are going to die. Stay at home and watch Netflix. We'll send you a check every couple months. And yes. And then you had Democrats who said, see, see, we have the authority of the federal government behind us saying that what we're telling you to do, you have to do. And I think eventually. as you know the elections were getting near during those years everyone kind of looked around and was like wait and they're looking at the examples that you just said that are in the book uh Gavin Newsom Nancy Pelosi going to a salon when all salons are locked down she goes to a salon privately you know they're looking at that and going wait if you can do it why were you why were you telling me I couldn't do it so people I have fortunately, it's always a very delicate thing. You were always at risk of people forgetting. But that's also why at the very top of the book, I want people to remember the COVID years because don't ever forget that. Because what they did, remember how it felt when you saw them doing all the things they told you you couldn't do. And they did it, by the way. And we have this very common, very frequent saying at the federalists, it's not hypocrisy, it's hierarchy. Yes, indeed. And we saw what the left has been claiming, you know, pejoratively to the right, you know, self-righteously, that there are two Americas. Well, we saw the real two Americas during... COVID with the examples given Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, eating out at an elite restaurant while everybody is again forced into to stay in their homes, locked down. You have a chapter, I think, that I think really drives all of this home. And it relates to everything we talked about, but I think it really especially came to the four in 2004, in the run-up to the presidential election. And the chapter is this, to save democracy, they abandon democracy. Then they put it in prison. I think we know exactly where you're going with us, but please explain. Yeah, that was, I think if there's one thing I want from this book, it's a full accounting, because I don't think we've quite confronted exactly what we went through with the last election with. you know, the lying. And I include the media on this big time. It couldn't have been done without them. But you have the lawfare against Donald Trump. You have first, you know, that's trying to bankrupt him. If you remember that ruling that came out that basically would have taken away all of his money. Oh, yes. Insane in New York. The ruling that was, what, around $600 million? I mean, it was.

it was outlandish and obviously there have been some revisions to that over time. Right. So there's first the attempt to zero out his finances, then the attempt to put him in prison. Then there's an assassination attempt. He's actually shot another assassination attempt. All the while, they're harassing legally, well-meaning, unassuming people who are showing, literally the FBI, the Biden's DOJ showing up harassing parents who are going to school board meeting, basically deeming them terrorist. And then you have. You know, Biden steps aside because he has to. They throw in Kamala Harris, who all over Washington, her entire tenure, even the media. You could read the stories. If you read between the lines, you could see they were always making fun of her. She was a complete joke. They knew she was in over her head. You then would get periodic articles about it was either. her staff is demoralized. There's high turnover. Then it's, well, now they're upset because she doesn't feel like she's getting the work portfolio that would make her look good. Even in her book, she just says that I wasn't given the assignments that would have made me shine. Like just a complete joke of a person. They put her in and the media. engages in this Herculean effort, hoists her on their shoulders to get her across the finish line. Suddenly, she is a rock star. There has never been a more popular person. She might just go on Mount Rushmore, just like, and allow her to completely reverse every position she ever had. And it was swallowed. The media swallowed it. All the while, they're also saying, well, look, border crossings are down. Well, after two million people across the country, oh, is it supposed to be fine now that border crossings were dropping? Oh, inflation's actually down. Well, okay, well, inflation was up at 25 percent. Prices are still at that same level. Is it okay that now inflation is quote unquote. cooling. Oh, crime is actually down because look, the homicide rate has fallen. Okay, yeah. And yet the carjackings, the looting, all of that is still at 2020 levels. So I don't know why we're just looking at homicide. But the media would repeat those lies over and over again, just for the sake, all for the sake of getting Kamala Harris elected and trying to deny Donald Trump. uh another victory which by the way i skipped over this there in addition to the uh trying to zero out his finances in addition to trying to put him in prison uh in addition to the assassination attempts they tried to remove him from the ballot to literally deny deny americans their choice in the in the election like we can we cannot talk about that enough it's been it's been what a year not even and we we have not fully um

recognized what exactly happened there. Yeah, it is, it's mind-blowing all that has occurred in the name of democracy on the left. Our guest today is Eddie Scarry, D.C. columnist, at the Federalist and author of the new book, Traders, the Democrat Party's collapse into anti-American filth. The left certainly has an interesting idea of, What, you know, is dangerous to democracy as they go about being a danger to democracy, just as they have an interesting idea of what a terrorist is. They don't see, so many, unfortunately, don't see Charlie Kirk's. alleged assassin as a terrorist coming directly from the left. You've written a lot about Jimmy Kimmel of late. Exhibit A of that. But they put on pedestals, in fact, Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin, Luigi Mangione. The alleged assassin of Brian Thompson, another horrific incident over the last of less than a year in this country of assassination culture. You know, they put him on a pedestal. Luigi Mangione, the alleged assassin of the healthcare CEO, this is really, really stunning stuff. But you delve into, again, this would not happen the way that it does without an accomplice media, a corporate media that is desirous of a narrative that. does anything to undercut, A, Donald Trump, be the MAGA movement, conservatives in general in this country. So much so, you talked about propping up Kamala Harris. She was the fill-in candidate. They spent four years propping up a guy in Joe Biden who had the mental capacity. of a bowl of KFC mashed potatoes and gravy. What went on there and how much did that inform sane America about what was happening? Yeah, and they tried, didn't they? They tried so hard to make her work. It was like one poll after another, like as the days ticked by after Kamala Harris became the Democrat nominee. Just showing an erasure of Donald Trump's lead. And it was every single state and on every single issue. Just suddenly you would see a new poll. Kamala Harris has erased, closed the gap. Oh, wait, now she's actually ahead. And then when the, when the poll came out, I don't remember who did it. It was a, it was a, it would be a reputable poll.

But it said that she had taken the advantage on the economy. And after that, I threw my hands up and said, if you can sell, if you can sell me that, then this whole thing is fake. There's no way that this election is going to be real. And I really meant that after that. I was like, there's just no way. And then, of course, what we see, she lost every single swing state. I think that I read in the New York Times that she might have. It's either she got, either she gained nothing. Democrats gained nothing and not a single county or it was like only two across the entire country. Otherwise, Democrats made absolutely no gains anywhere. And so, yeah, how could you, and they couldn't have done that without the media, but I often wondered before the election, I said, when this is over and she loses, what is the media going to say? What are they going to say to their readers? their viewers, how are they going to say, we got this, are they just going to say, yeah, we got it wrong? I wanted to hear them say because immediately after you obviously saw very demoralized people, you saw the two Morning Joe lovers run to Mara Lago and, you know, make some kind of like amends. And I thought, no, what you need to do is you need to say, Yeah, we lied and we knew we were lying and it didn't work. That was the only, that was the only thing I wanted to hear from them. But no, they just moved on. And we're watching them. You can predict what they're going to do at this point. It's so easy. Just like with this Jimmy Kimmel stuff, when I saw they suspended him. I thought, well, the outrage should be, if there's outrage, it would be at ABC for making that decision. But I thought, no, no, no, no. What they're going to do is say it's because ABC was scared of the Trump administration. That's what they're going to do. And sure enough, that's exactly what they did. But yeah, our news media, thank God, it's as weak as it is. I think people... I'm not running across the country up and down, taking the pulse. But my intuition is pretty good. I think these little controversies that they keep trying to manufacture, I was making fun of it today about, you know, are there actually people across the country having to have little chats with their daughters and their sons? And, you know, I don't, how do I explain Jimmy Kimmel may not be coming back? Well, wait a minute. Are there enough people watching Jimmy Kimmel to actually, like, no, I, I, Again, you know, that's the issue here, is the lack of self-reflection. And you note that in this book and in previous books, of course, is that nobody wants to talk about the Jimmy Kimmel and these late-night jokers. And I don't mean that in a comedic sense.

have lost so much of viewership, of their original viewership, because they decided, the Stephen Colbert's of the world, the Jimmy Kimmel's in particular, decided to go all in on the leftist, you know, as the leftist spokesman in late night television, people in general. don't want to see that, but they just alienated more than half of their market. Their ratings were miserable. I would think that ABC and parent company Disney, which has silenced all kinds of people, as you have written about over the years, I think they would look at this as a great opportunity to, you know, drop in arbitra... anchor around their necks, just as CBS, so the new owners at CBS saw this. But that's what happens. There is this, and everybody can be their own victim in an echo chamber. But accountability is one thing that the left is absolutely dead set against. And you touch upon that in your book. Yeah, because they haven't had to face it. They never face it. You know, even, you know, someone like Donald Trump, who they swore was just going to weaponize the Justice Department. And I'm talking about the first time that he was elected back in 2016. No, he said, because, you know, he had said Hillary Clinton was going, she'd be in jail if he was president. But no, he goes and says, you know. I don't want to hurt anybody. Let's just drop it. We'll let it go. That's how the right has behaved for a very long time. And a lot of us were, we felt like that was the gracious thing to do. But then we've just seen time and time again that when we're not getting... defamed and smeared by the news media, just absolutely piling on well-meaning, unassuming, even apolitical people who make, you know, a transgression without even knowing that they're making a transgression, whatever it is, you show up in a MAGA hat somewhere. Suddenly you're a racist. Like, you know, when that's not happening, when the media is not doing that to us, You had people like Joe Biden coming in. Again, his justice department harassing people who weren't even there on January 6th, harassing people who were parents who were showing up at school board meetings, harassing people who are peacefully protesting outside of abortion clinics. You know, just over and over again. We have grown really tired of that. And if the worst thing that happens is that Jimmy Kimmel goes on a little bit of a timeout, I would say that they're in pretty good shape. But speaking of Jimmy Kimmel, this is the thing here is that I actually enjoy. I'm not someone who's like, oh, if you're a liberal, like I can't listen to you. Not at all. In fact, I'm a pretty big fan of Bill Maher. I find him to be funny. I think oftentimes he even makes points about the right that should have been, that I'll have to be like, oh, I should have

that's a good point. I'm not at all closed to those kinds of things. I'll seek out alternative views. I spend all my day. If no one ever believes it, it's like, no, I don't watch Fox News all day. I watch CNN all day and I read the New York Times and I watch and I read the Washington Post. That's what I do. You do. And I have always said you should get casualty pay for that. I'll have to tell our bosses. Yeah, but, but that's what I do. That's my job. But I, when I saw the little bits of the, the Jimmy Kimmel monologue, it wasn't, much different from what I've seen, from what I've seen, you know, him and Stephen Colbert. And it's, you know, the same just kind of boring anti-Trump stuff. But this one in particular, less than a week after this guy was shot in the neck in front of children to go. That's the worst part, really. I mean, obviously there are many bad parts, but I thought, you know, there are kids that went there to participate in the American way. uh the the here here opposing views see a debate that's that's the engagement that's civil engagement and that he could that charlie kirk did that he deserves so much credit but children going and what were they treated to they were treated to a public execution in the ugliest way And for this guy to go and turn that into like a joke or an alleged joke, I guess, it's his monologue. So I guess it's supposed to be funny. But he makes the jokes about it. And then on top of that, he gratuitously, which you could do, you could get away with this on MSNBC. It would be a minor outrage and everyone would move on. You do it on a broadcast channel, which is supposed to be at the name, the word is in the name broadcast. It's supposed to be broadly appealing. And you say, yeah, the MAGA people, they've reached. a new low and they've just been trying to make it seem like he's not one of them that is just so gratuitous and excessive and you're not going to tell me that you're they're not going to get the media they are not going to get the public and up in arms over Jimmy Kimmel because he said that they're not going to turn this into a free speech. They're just a free speech issue. They're just not. People just, I really do believe that and I don't want to give too much credit to the average American as much as much country and as good as I want for people. So I'm not going to give too much credit, but I really do think they are tired. They are tired of hearing about how the left gets to get away with being so ugly and so nasty. And yet. Because you now want to appeal to the Constitution and the First Amendment. No, I think that they've had it. I really do. Yeah. And the argument that this is that Jimmy Kimmel is some sort of victim of oppression once again, which is the terminology they like to, you know, that he's being silenced. The only person in the conversation that we are having that has literally been silenced and martyred. is Charlie Kirk. That's what's lost in all of this. And people can say horrible, horrible things. They can say the most hate-filled things. I absolutely believe in that. But I also believe that your employer has the right to say, you're not going to say hateful and horrible things on our dine. That also is a consideration.

Matt, did you see the tweet that the former president Barack Obama that he puts out today, I believe? And he says something to the effect of, you know, free speech is an American right and something we should all partake in, whether you're Charlie Kirk or Jimmy Kimmel. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but one of them is dead for exercising his free speech rights. And the other one is on a suspension. And for you to in any way. equate the two and equate what the the consequence that both of them faced again i that's a that's a total justification for what happened it is and it speaks to what i'm talking about in my book traders because they really it's oh they are equal we'll call that equal they know they know what they know well it's not they know well it's not but they're perfectly fine with that because they don't see they don't see everyone as equal so if someone gets taken out Well, that's just fine. Let's talk about the guy who has suspended from his, you know, multi-million dollar job. Absolutely. Yeah, the equivalency game is very fatiguing and it has been going on in the left for a long time. And it's silly and it's stupid. But they have forced through many different channels, Americans to tired Americans to have to buy into this or at least say, please just leave me alone, go do whatever you're going to do. It's deadly. It's anti-American. It is. And I think about Barack Obama, who was silencing journalist in, I mean, actually, you know, the corporate journal, corporate media journalist that have been on his side. He was silencing them. You know, his policies and his era ended up with all kinds of silenings of conservative individuals for having a different point of view than the Obamaites. once again, the hypocrisy is baked in. to the American left at a degree that is astonishing. One of the things I really enjoy about your book, Eddie, is, you know, the personalization of your book. You write about your mother, who literally came to this country from Mexico and eschewed, you know, you and your sibling learning Spanish. She wanted you from the very beginning to be... an American. You are an American. And she is an American. And she went through this whole process, something that the left doesn't fully understand legally. And so you write about when she sees, you know, as we've seen over the last several months, you know, Mexican Americans waving their, you know, their flags, their country flags or anywhere else, you know, she gets mad about that. And that is, you talk about this in context of how the American left has treated the illegal immigrant as opposed to the legal immigrant and Americans in general.

Oh, right. You know, if you literally, they will fly out to get you to bring you into this country if they can, the illegals, Democrats, that's how they behave. You saw it with the Alvin Bragg Garcia when Chris Van Hollen Democrat of Maryland literally flies to El Salvador to re-import this professed illegal alien. credibly accused of being a violent gang member, credibly accused of being a wife beater. And yet someone like my mother, they would want to have nothing to do with. Yes, this was a woman who Mexican immigrant eventually naturalized under Reagan. She had me and my sister. And the answers would always change over the years. Like, why didn't you teach us Spanish? Because it kind of became a thing where it would have been useful, like in certain situations, useful for jobs eventually. So we kind of wish that we had known. But I understood why she did it eventually. And I remember her saying she said, I'm not going to go into too much detail about this, but she said, I didn't want you to be like the rest of them out there. I remember her saying that. And I brought it up to her again when I was writing this part of the book. I said, do you remember that? Do you remember saying that? I said, I think what you meant was we wouldn't have properly like assimilated. And she said, yep, and I stand by that. I still stand by that. And she just, she wanted us to be as American as possible. She is as American as possible. You would look at. me and you would see like i'm not a white person i'm i'm you know not the darkest person but you would say he's not really white he's something you would definitely look at her and know she's probably some type of latina but her uh english is she's got just an american accent still speaks fluent fluent spanish but american accent and yeah when she sees It's been my whole life. She still does it to this day. And, you know, we'll go to like a Latin heritage festival or something. I used to hate him as a kid, but now I enjoy them. We'll go to that kind of thing. But when it's like the day to day just through your life, if you see people with like a Puerto Rican flag in your... in your, you know, and you're hanging from your rearview mirror or you see it displayed somewhere or you're wearing that around your neck. She gets furious. She hates to see it. She says that you cannot represent another country. Why are you here then? Why are you here? Go back. And yeah, just the point of this is to get across it and really just the entire first chapter is that we have. a way of living here that is distinct and unique. And it should be celebrated by every real patriotic American. And it's not, you know, it's not ambiguous. It's not something that we can't define. It's not something that you don't know, you know, you know, the left likes to be like, well, what does it mean to be an American? You know, you know it when you see it. I'm sorry. You know when you see it. There are other things we definitely know what we have the Constitution. We have a, we have a harrowing, fascinating.

history here. All those things are important, but you certainly know an American when you see it and you know American behavior and conduct and someone who really subscribes to the American way. And the left just completely rejects it all. And worst of it all is the way they do it in their policies. The way that they excuse and exacerbate crime, the way that they care nothing of order. At least for the people who don't have the money, who don't have the access to power to get it. And that's really the shame in that party is that they, and it's their voters, sadly, they cast them aside and say, you deal with it. You live, you live in the filth. I'm going to. I'm going to live in my gated community. I'm close to the government. I'm going to fly private. You get to deal with all the garbage that all of my policies have created, anti-American, because they don't believe in the equality. They don't believe everyone should have the same things or access to the same things that they do. One thing I know for certain, your mother is an exceptional American. And you know what? The pride in America has been so shot up by the left over the last several years. You note in your book that the left always likes to talk about America as an idea, you know, a concept. It is, first of all, what... What the left has forgotten is that America is geography as well. It is a land. It is a country. And without borders, it cannot be that. And that's what they're absolutely trying to do, erase those borders. And what they're trying to do with that is sell Americans on the idea that America is an evil. place. And that is what I think breaks so many Americans' hearts. So I ask you this as we close, where do we go from here with that kind of mentality from a significant portion of America? I really believe, and our colleagues do a really great job of writing about this. John Daniel Davidson wrote a piece just a couple days ago about how we can't share this country anymore. And what that means is that we have to win all of it. We have to win it. They can live here, but it can't be theirs in the sense of them having power and control. in the big ways that they have had it and in the ways that they've wielded that power and control that have torn this country down. And I really do believe that that is going to take all people.

All average, ordinary Americans of in their every, they're going to have to start caring a lot more. They're going to have to start saying, okay, I've tried to be accommodating. I have tolerated the anti-social anti-American behavior of people in my life who I've known. And this isn't about cutting people off, but it is about standing up to those attitudes, those tendencies, the neuroses. of the American left because they do. The way that they are so comfortable with conflict and contention in their personal lives and their everyday lives, it has to be that the people like us, the real Americans, the people who love this country and don't want to see it disappear, they have to say, I'm not dealing with that. And that's enough. And no, I don't agree with you. And you're wrong. And here's why you're wrong. And it's enough. Otherwise, we're not going to have a relationship anymore. And you don't want that. You don't want people limiting their social circles, limiting their family circles. I don't want that for anybody. But you're going to see this country disappear if you don't start standing up for what you believe and loudly doing it. I think to put it into terms that we've all dealt with over our lifetimes, we deal with a lot of. or plenty of in our lives, drama queens or drama kings. And, you know, that's a lot of people have chosen to, you know, either sever those relationships or try to redefine them, but you can't change those, those people, that mentality. So it's going to take, again, I think you're absolutely right, a unification of the sane. That's a word that you use multiple times in this book. We have to get back to sanity and reality, which is something the left has been protesting against for a mighty long time. Thanks to my guest today, Eddie Scarry, D.C. columnist at the Federalist and author of the new book, Traders, the Democrat parties collapse into anti-American filth. You've been listening to another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle's senior elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray.