Erick Erickson HR 1 8-17-26
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94 segmentsHello, America. Welcome, it is Eric Erickson here across the United States. Absolutely delighted to have you with me. The phone number is 8779373425. Should you wish to be on the program, would be just fantastic to have you call in. You can text Eric, E, R-I-C-K, to 3377 to get the live stream, the show notes, all the links you need. I actually have to begin with the South Korean story today that is burning up a lot of people. I do a Monday morning hit on my flagship station with my buddy Mark Aram, and it was the first thing he asked me about, the president and our allies. On Fox News this morning, he said he was going to bomb the poop out of Oman, except he didn't. Can I just as a side note? Just as a side note, I just, I need to say. It's kind of unfortunate that in our day and age, you can't let your children listen to the President of the United States live. And we, in broadcast media, can't air the President of the United States live because he might say some profane word, as he did on Fox News this morning. And that's just unfortunate. I myself on the golf course say things I should not say. Working on it as part of my sanctification. But boy, on the golf course, it sure comes out. But it should not come out of the mouth of the President of the United States when doing a live interview in the morning when kids are present. It just shouldn't. Having gotten that off my chest, I will say. This is how the New York or the Wall Street Journal covers this story. President Trump returned to an old playbook this weekend to break a years-long stalemate with North Korea, ordering cuts to annual military exercises with South Korea that began Monday. But things have changed for Kim Jong-un-ung and for the U.S. military. Trump, touting his personal relationship with the North Korean leader, ordered reductions to the drills on Sunday, as he did during his first term to advance nuclear talks with Kim. The move is riskier now. North Korea's military is significantly more powerful threat to the United States and its allies. than it was when Trump suspended the drills in 2018. Since then, North Korea has expanded its nuclear arsenal, increased missile production, and acquired battlefield experience and technology after sending troops to assist Russia in its war against Ukraine. With help from Russia and China, North Korea's economy has experienced growth despite global sanctions. With these gains under his belt, Kim has so far spurred all... Trump's diplomatic overture since the president returned to the White House. At the same time, the demands of the U.S. war with Iran have raised concerns among some in Asia that U.S. security forces are overstretched, impairing their ability to deter China and North Korea. Soon after the war began, the U.S. shifted dozens of missile interceptors and other assets from South Korea to the Middle East. More recently, the war is pulling away a Kiyah U.S. ship.
As the Pacific-based aircraft carrier, USS George Washington, heads to the Middle East to replace the Abraham Lincoln. Whether the U.S. is acquired adequate munitions to escalate the conflict with Iran remains a topic of debate. U.S. allies in China are already under pressure. The annual joint exercises with South Korea, a display of Washington and Seoul's military alliance. began without signs of any immediate cutbacks. The South Korean government said it's cooperating with the U.S. on the drills and hopes to have a friendly relationship between Trump and Kim. The spin among all major media outlets is that the president is trying to woo North Korea suddenly, and that's why he's cut back the South Korean military exercises. That's the playbook. That's the expectation. But I think the news media is getting something really, really wrong. I say this. with some knowledge and background and having had conversations with people. Let me begin by saying, I think the president has undermined his case with his social media rants about his friendship with North Korea and on and on, but there's actually something under the surface. And that is that the South Korean leadership right now is pretty pro-China. There's been a lot of upheaval within South Korea. There has been a lot of instability in the government there. There have been arrests of political figures. There has been an impeachment of a South Korean president. There's been a lot of turmoil in South Korea. The present leadership within South Korea is deeply and antagonistically turning toward China. And the United States military and intelligence community have a growing number of concerns about where the leadership in South Korea is right now and their fidelity to the alliance with the United States, not that they will walk away from it, but that they will begin funneling information to the Chinese as the South Korean president intends to ingratiate himself with the Chinese. So the president, by scaling back the military objectives, and also, by the way, now thinking about scaling back South Korean shipbuilding for the United States because you can't have a South Korean government helping build American warships if that South Korean government is funneling information to the Chinese. There are real concerns that have been completely ignored by the American media. And in fairness to the media in ignoring them, a lot of it has to do with the way the president announced this on social media by trying to suck up to Kim Jong-un-il, Kim Jong-un-ung in North Korea. There are real, real deficiencies in how the president himself tried to handle this. And it is a problem.
Peggy Noonan has a piece, and by the way, just full disclosure here, I like Peggy Noonan tremendously. We have a good relationship. She is a tremendous writer, and you should read Peggy Noonan and George Will both if you want as a conservative to learn how to write. She's a fine person. She has a piece in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend. It has seemed to me this summer that people avoid the subject of Donald Trump as much as possible. What is there to say? People stand where they stand. No one expects to win anyone over. The subject is both boring and harrowing, so why disturb the moment? A classically conservative insight is that no mere political figure should be given the power to fully colonize your brain and heart. So going to other topics is a good impulse. But I think something has been happening while we haven't been talking about him. His position of the political cosmos is changing. In some new way, good fortune is... not on Mr. Trump's side. There is a new precarity to it. All this is connected, obviously, to the dangerous mess of Iran, widespread economic anxiety, and a rise in the energy and electoral success of the left, which hates him, and in its political bloodlust, apes him. All this is expressed in his approval ratings. The real clear politics average has him at 39% job approval, 59% disapproval. The Economist this week has a piece titled How Unpopular is Donald Trump. Its own poll found him dramatically underwater, 34 to 61. The magazine said voters are uneasy about the president's ability to deal wisely with the international crisis. Mr. Trump has survived bad numbers before. I think people enjoy registering disapproval of his leadership, whether they voted for him or not. But there's no denying the current erosion of his position. His political problem with Iran is not only that the conflict is dangerous and unresolved or that his attempted diplomatic resolution seems half-baked, but that almost six months in he seems utterly out of his depth like someone who wouldn't have gone in there had he understood history or the nature of Iran's leadership. Another problem from the beginning, much of Mr. Trump's political persona was based on his rejection of foreign adventures. Now he's launched a war of choice that has produced a strategic maze. And on it goes, including the economic points. And here's the problem online. There's a growing chorus of JD Vance supporters who are openly voicing that the United States is in decline. It's real hard for the vice president's supporters to argue that the United States is in decline when they voted to make America great again and double down that Donald Trump is making America great again. The only way to reconcile the positions is to admit that Donald Trump has not in fact made America great again. And suddenly you get to the point, well, there are forces outside his control that he can't overcome. So he's a man who cannot meet the moment then because of forces outside his control. There's no way to defend the vice president's arguments about American decline. without making Donald Trump look weak, and so it must be everyone conspiring against Donald Trump, which ultimately leads to he's a man out of his element now.
The problem here is that the president is making some good decisions, but in his own handling of how he announces the decisions, he undermines himself. And there is no better example of this than the South Korean situation, which comes from a position where in the American military and intelligence community of growing concerns about the South Koreans, but the president making like he's sucking up to North Korea makes it look weak and bad. There is another reality here that is highlighted in these news pieces, and that is that whether the United States wants to believe it or not, whether JD Vance and his acolytes want to believe it or not, we are not in a tripartate world. We have a world where China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, Iran, they're all working together against the interests of the United States. And you have these people in the administration who are convinced America is in decline. negotiate and handle the world and navigate it like the British did with the decline of their empire. What they don't seem to understand is that it is two axes in the world. There's the American West and there's the Chinese-Russian East, and they're working against our interests. They do not want to divide the world with the United States. They want to defeat the United States, and too many people in the Vice President's camp are willing to allow the United States to retreat from the world. And if we retreat from the world, we will become the third world. We will look like Europe. We will look like Great Britain. And they're okay with that so long as it's a purely white nation. The president is, if anything, a realist about the situation, but he's surrounded by people in the vice president's office who have a third world as a agenda to undermine the United States and our sovereignty and strength in the world. They really do believe America's in decline and we should retreat from the world as opposed to we should get back to the things that made America great. The president has said he wants to make America great again. You know, Mr. President, if you want to make America great again, you don't embrace protectionism and the rejection of allies. the reason the South Koreans are moving towards the Chinese is they don't think we have their back. And now the rest of the world is kind of looking at the American situation thinking, what is going on with the president? Are we an alliance or not? And you've got the whispering voices within his ear from JD Vance for protectionism and isolationism. You have Marco Rubio who wants to stride the world and remind the world that the United States has the biggest stick and actually can compel its leadership abroad. You got real divisions within the Trump administration, and they're all starting to spill over for one simple reason. The president of the United States is now a lame duck. Whether he wants to believe it, whether he wants to acknowledge it, whether they will say it out loud, the Republican Party is starting to look forward to new leadership. And JD Vance is there trying to lock it in for himself. And the problem is JD Vance's vision of the future is a third world America. We'll get to that later.
But the alternative is a socialist left that ironically shares a lot of the same policy prescriptions as the vice president. Will someone else rise? And here's the thing. In the 1970s, the United States also had this vision of leadership in decline. Henry Kissinger. believed in a world divided between the Russians and the United States, and we should contain the Russians, and we should prop up our own spheres of influence, and we should acknowledge that the world is no longer in a position for American hegemony. And Jimmy Carter essentially embraced the same thinking with Linne Brasinski and decided that the Americans and the Russians could live at detente and quibble around the edges. And along came Ronald Reagan and said, why are we choosing to... decline. Why are we declining? We should make America great again, and we should actually rise and ascend and lead the world. And Ronald Reagan's vision won out. The question is, are there enough Americans now who want to have Ronald Reagan's vision? Donald Trump could give some semblance of that vision with American leadership, but he seems too divided on his course of action and too reckless on social media. The case in point being his decision to walk away from some of what we're doing with South Korea is founded on legitimate concerns about South Korea flirting with China. But the way he handles it is to make it sound like it's all about sucking up to the North Koreans who themselves are now in league with the Russians, the Chinese, the Cubans, and the Iranians against us. And if the president wants to be a realist and realign the world back to American leadership, he needs to behave differently on social media and stop putting Republicans on defense when we're about 90 days from the midterms. Have something to say? Hello. Hello. Call the show. 1-877-97-airing. That's 1-877-97-9-3-4-25.
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privacy back online in Cogni.com slash ERIC. Save up to 60% and your phone can go silent. Welcome back. It's Eric Erickson here across the United States. I sure am glad to have you with me. If you text show to 33777, you can come hang out with me. The not safe for radio show October 10th. There's a hotel on site. It's going to be a great venue. Fly in, hang out. Here are all the stories that are not kid approved, mom approved, or safe for radio. But they're really fun stories. Just not appropriate for radio. If you came to last years, you get a sense of it. You'll be hearing new stuff this time. It'll be a ton of fun. The not safe radio show. It'll be October 10th text show to 33777 to get tickets. I got called out last week for ignoring a major story. Had two different callers call. Wanted to know why are you not talking about the USS Abraham Lincoln. I'll say again why I didn't talk about the USS Abraham Lincoln story. Because one, the squeaky wheel always gets to grease. And when I hear these horror stories about what's happening on ships and whatnot, my first thought is, we are at war. Why are you doing this? And also... I understand that the Pentagon threw a lot of reporters out of the Pentagon. They refused to go along with a revised plan for media coverage. And so CNN and Fox News both. They packed up and walked out. And most of the reporters who stayed behind are kind of pro-Trump synch events. And in many cases, it's not really reporters. It's more propaganda. But on the opposite side of this, members of the media being hostile to the Trump administration have every incentive to elevate. every negative story about the Trump administration, regardless of how true it is. And I think back a month ago, you had a CNN reporter broadcasting live from the USS Abraham Lincoln who didn't report any of these problems, and there was just been, we're supposed to believe, a rapid deterioration in conditions over one month. Also, Iran has a very good propaganda outfit. that is able to seed stories in the Western press, and part of the issue here is this kind of struck me as a lot of this sounds like something the Iranians would plan, a way to demoralize Americans about the military. Concurrent to that, I also recognize and said last week that the Pentagon has been less than forthcoming with the truth of the war. So I wanted to take a more cautious approach on the USS Abraham Lincoln story and really didn't talk about it until these two people last week called and were both very upset about me not covering it. Well, it turns out, as I said, my suspicions are proving true. Yes, there are some problems, but also they're dramatically overstated. You got to understand that. On the Abraham Lincoln, there are some problems.
Many of the problems, however, are overstated. A video circulated over the weekend that showed all sorts of problems, and then someone pointed out that video was not actually from the Abraham Lincoln, that video was from Dry Docks for repairs. there does appear to be a coordinated campaign to sabotage the morale of families who have soldiers and sailors by showing them these videos, and these videos are not true. And now we have a piece by Admiral Brad Cooper, who's in charge of the war effort, who penned this in the Wall Street Journal. He writes, on Saturday, I stood in the nerve center of an aircraft carrier sailing in the Arabian Sea and addressed the entire crew on the general announcing system. I delivered the words every deployed sailor and marine longs to hear. You have delivered a performance for the ages and now you are going home. I made the trip to the USS Abraham Lincoln because I wanted to see how it's 4,000 plus service members are doing and thank them for their extraordinary resilience in the face of constant pressure. It was an amazing visit. I was blown away by this strong group of high-achieving Americans standing tall with justified pride and everything they've accomplished. I also saw the reality of more than 260 days at sea with more than 150 days in a combat zone while speaking with sailors in spaces most guests don't see. Recent media reporting has portrayed varying perspectives on operational, tempo, crew, morale, and the realities facing our deployed forces. What I found aboard the Lincoln is that many elements of those stories are old news. I chatted with junior enlisted personnel and junior officers and small groups. Issues related to food, hot water, and other concerns raised months ago were addressed by leadership and resolved. The crew is tired, but they continue to fire on all cylinders. Across months of sustained combat operations, the Lincoln team shot down more than 200. Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps drones threatening international shipping and U.S. forces. The strike groups guided missile destroyers engaged in arguably the most intense combat at sea the Navy has seen World War II, and the air wing executed hundreds of decisive strikes. But the true foundation of American sea power isn't measured in steel, nuclear reactors, high-tech aviation, or service platforms. It's measured in human endurance, character, and the strength of the U.S. military. My conversations with our troops naturally turn to what matters most, tucked between steel bulkheads, away from the roaring flight operations. We spoke not of headlines or high-level strategic maneuvers, but of missed birthdays, first steps captured on video calls, high school graduations, and the quiet sacrifices unfolding thousands of miles home. The ship is coming home. One of the problems we know... is that the military, the naval base that we have in Bahrain was badly damaged by Iran. The military was not very forthcoming with the public about the damage done. It was more significant than we were revealed, and that compromised some of the supply and refueling. A lot of it had to come from Diego Garcia, which is much further away in the Indian Ocean.
When I was a kid, the dry docks were actually in Dubai, the Sheikh Rishi dry dock. So the 5th Fleet was technically stationed in Bahrain, but if you wanted the ships repaired or fitted, everybody came to Dubai. My family would host the 5th Fleet. I would wake up in the mornings. There would be sailors asleep on the floor of my bedroom. My dad would organize block parties with other neighbors. He would cook ribs and burgers. They would come to our house. The enlisted, they would do their laundry at our house. We had sailors in and out of my house the entire time I was growing up overseas from 5 to 15. We had sailors coming in. I got to tour many of the ships, the Coronado, the Turner, the Vincennes, the Samuel B. John Roberts, the LaSalle. I got to walk on a lot of ships. when I was a kid. Got to meet the captains, got to meet the crew. My parents prioritized, taking care of the enlisted over the officers. They would be at our house regularly. They would be fed. They could shower. My dad would keep beers in the fridge for them. My mother even had, we were not a smoking household, but my mother would keep cigarettes in the house for the sailors who smoked. That was my parents were big on hospitality. You love your neighbor. You'd be hospitable. to our troops and our sailors. And we would do this when ships would come through. I've got on my desk, where is it? I can't reach it. I have the R.K. Turner. It was engaged in the Libyan operation in 86, and the captain gave me some of the rounds fired at the Libyans, and I keep it on my desk.
Our naval base in Bahrain was crippled by the Iranians. The Iranians using Russian intelligence struck us far more aggressively than the Pentagon led on. And this is part of the problem. And it's why I've been delicate with the story, is the Pentagon has not been forthcoming to either Congress or the public about the damage Iran did, but also Iran has ties into propaganda outlets in the United States to seed stories that are not true. And the Lincoln story, there are some people, there are always squeaky wheels, and those squeaky wheels always get the grease, and those whining soldiers and sailors through their parents at home, get the attention of the media. It's an unpopular war. They want their kids to come home, and so they go to the media, and they present these sob stories about soldiers trying to commit suicide and starvation on the aircraft carrier, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and overwhelmingly, yeah, one or two guys had mental issues and wanted to jump overboard. Yes, true. story, but exaggerated by the press. Have there been limited rations to a degree? Yes, for a time there was, but they knew it was a problem. And the issue was that the refueling and the supplies had to come from Diego Garcia, not from Bahrain. It took more time, but those issues were taken care of. The story was more complex than the media let on and also not nearly as bad as what the media led on. And so much of what the media is doing now, you need to understand is they want to portray this Pentagon in the worst possible light because the Pentagon punished reporters who didn't want to go along with their PR revisions. But also, you must understand that this Pentagon is, well, suspicious of the press and trying to back up the president, has been much more guarded and less forthcoming about what's happened. And so both sides of the coin, this has been a poisoned relationship. And the hostility between the press of this Pentagon has fed on each other. And the ability of Iran to cede sympathetic narratives within the Western press has metastasized this situation. We are now sending an aircraft carrier, George Washington, to relieve the Abraham Lincoln. So we can come home. The Gerald Ford, of course, went over for a time, and it has come home. There is a rumor, a story. It is not confirmed. I hesitate to bring it up, but just so you understand that it is out there, there is a rumor that the soldiers coming off the Abraham Lincoln will be forced to sign non-disclosure agreements or they will not be let off the ship. There's no possible way, just so you understand, that we can, in fact, keep this from leaking. There is no way. The number of soldiers who could leak to willing reporters in this country, and those reporters protect the sources, is overwhelming. I have a really hard time believing the story is true because it doesn't matter. These sailors and soldiers could leak, and the media would gladly protect them and get their stories out, whether they signed an India or not. So I just, I don't believe it. That sounds very much, again, like wishcasting by the progressive...
left. The bottom line is this. There were sailors aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln who had a hard time, they complained to their family and their family ran to the media. There are videos that have surfaced about conditions on the ship that turn out not to be true, and it's notable that it's Iranian propaganda campaigns that have amplified these stories. The Admiral Brad Cooper, who everybody respects in Congress, has gone and has pinned to peace in the Wall Street Journal and acknowledged there were some problems. Those problems were fixed. And also the ship has served its time and is coming home in a planned rotation. And by the way, I highlight this. Planned rotation, a key phrase. It is not a coincidence that the stories about the Abraham Lincoln started circulating last week before the end of the Abraham Lincoln's tour and its planned rotation. In other words, the stories were designed to make it look like the Abraham Lincoln was being pushed out because of the problems with the new ship coming as opposed to... The Abraham Lincoln had a planned rotation, and the rotation involved getting the USS George Washington into the strategic area so the Abraham Lincoln can leave. It was planned to happen this way on this timeline, but because the media saved up the stories until last week, it makes it look like the president is forcing a change to happen because the situation was so bad. In other words, it's a reinforcing loop in the story. Oh, the conditions are so bad. We're having to make the Abraham Lincoln leave the area and get the troops. as opposed to the ship was going to leave anyway on this timeline. Now they can recast the story and make it look worse than it actually was. There is a well-orchestrated operation to undermine the morale of the troops, the public, and the families of the soldiers and sailors involved in order to undermine the war effort. And again, it's not a coincidence that it is left-wing media outlets that have amplified the concerns, and it is Iranian propaganda channels online that have ceded the fake videos. We're watching an operation at play to poison the well. And the Pentagon has fallen into this because the media operations at the Pentagon is its own worst enemy. They have worked overtime to build a hostile relationship with a press that in the Pentagon tends to be sympathetic to the military. And the Iranians and the left took advantage of the deteriorating press relationship at the Pentagon to cede a narrative that a lot of Americans have woken up this week and believe the USS Abraham Lincoln is coming home, not because of a planned rotation, but because the situation is deteriorated so bad something must be done, which is not true. And again, I got to really tell you, I am very sympathetic.
to the story of the Pentagon that this is an operation designed to demoralize, but also time and time again, this administration cuts off its nose despite its face. For example, there's a legitimate need by the president to wind down some of our South Korean operations because of the sympathies of the South Koreans to the Chinese. You would never know it, though, the way the president casts this. In the same way, the conditions with the Abraham Lincoln are vastly overstated, but... It's hard to have sympathy for the Pentagon that has regularly now misled, deflected, or failed to inform Congress in the public of the situation. These people in this administration, they are some of the worst at PR in a while that I have seen. And the president who's been very good at it for a very long time seems to have lost his edge. Honest. Putting your trust in me to tell you what's going on. Transparent. I need you to know this from the bottom of my heart. Giving you the information without the noise. My job is to tell you what you want to hear. It's the Eric Erickson Show.
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