Guests - Jeff Utsch, Ian Trottier, John Donovan

Welcome to this Friday edition of Win Tucson. We have made it through this week. It's probably one of the toughest weeks I've had to do in a very, very long time. I am so grateful for my very first guest today. Jeff Uch, he is a senior faculty lead instructor at the Leadership and Freedom Center in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, head swim instructor at streamlined performance where he works with military police and so many. is here in Tucson, Arizona. He's one of our local treasures and heroes. Jeff, thank you so much for jumping on with me this morning to talk about our mutual friend, Charlie Kirk. Kathleen, thanks for having me and thanks for all you doing. Well, you wrote this, it's in the Arizona Daily Independent, and it's a beautiful article, and it really, you know, discusses who Charlie is. I think, I don't think anybody, anybody could have foreseen what happened, but the ramifications in the aftermath of it, just like Charlie, unprecedented. Yes, absolutely. And this is time, Kathleen, to really have some introspection, some thinking, because we can't let something this tragic go by and not learn something from it. You know, and not, and it's really hard to process. But as I was thinking, it took me forever to write that article, I'm embarrassed to say, but it's not something that just came easily. But really, you know, why was Charlie so effective? And in thinking about that, because he's very unique and he's not going to be replaced. And so who's going to step up and do the things that need to be done? You know, we have a lot of Titans. in this nation carrying the water, I think, for the rest of us. You know, and not that many of us aren't trying to do things, but I think the call, the bugle call is that we all really need to start participating in getting involved. You know, I've said freedom is not a spectator sport. But Charlie really had three key ingredients. Now, he had more than this. But this is what I really thought about is he was an insatiable appetite, really for knowledge, Kathleen. A hundred percent. He'd go out there. He, you know, Megyn Kelly, so people have been filling in for Charlie. Charlie's show follows my show every morning. It has since January. And so, obviously, he's not here to do it. Megyn Kelly was on with Charlie's staff. And some of Charlie's staff was research staff. And he'd say, you know, I need some of this. And he would say stuff. And the staff would say, what is? They didn't understand why he was asking for what he was asking. But when they saw how he applied what he was asking, they were always.

amazed like they were doing some of the work and providing him facts but then how he used it and how he communicated it and how he told history was unprecedented he was so so smart so intelligent and so steeped in history as are you by the way Well, he was smart in intelligence, but the things that got in his brain just didn't happen by osmosis. He had to learn it. Thank you. And he had the passion to do it. You know, he went out there. And that's what we've got to do. He really lived by what I call the Davy Jasmine Crockett Creed. You know, and that is at the beginning of his autobiography, and if you haven't read it, you know, those we're talking to, I think it's the best autobiography ever written. Of course, at least what I've read. And it starts, you know, make sure always you are right, then go ahead. So as our moms taught us, should we send that to Jimmy Kimmel? Jeff, should we send that to? Yeah, yeah. You know? And he lived by that. And he was, you know, he was very competent, but he was also competent. His, and he was willing to say, hey, I'm wrong here and learn and evolve. Yes. And I just really respect that. And, you know, so one of the things we learn is seek, you know, seek to obtain my word first. You know, first learn the scriptures, learn our history, learn these things. You know, Senator Kane from Virginia sure could have done that. Because, you know, that guy, you know, from my original home state in the Senate, said that rights come from government, not God. And he was yelling this and so confident in himself. And it's just like, look, you either don't know your own history and Declaration of Independence or you have rejected it. Either way, that disqualifies you from serving in the Senate. And why there isn't a bigger uproar just over that. So I bring that up because Charlie had knowledge and he was always thirsting. And he didn't know everything, but he is a great example of, look, we need to think things through and figure things out before we have a high opinion on something. Well, and he was, he showed incredible. grace and humility when, you know, these kids would come up to these microphones. I got to be with them so many different, in so many different settings and occasions. And I think, and he had a good sense of humor. Like he, he could laugh at, you know, himself. He could laugh at situations. He was just relatable, especially to young people. And I'm having so many parents and, grandparents say, you know, I didn't realize that my, you know, son or daughter or grandson, granddaughter were listening to him. And they're devastating. Like they were getting their information from Charlie Kirk and they had no idea. So when this happened, this is one of those things where...

I hope and pray that this is a, you know, a resurgence, that this is, I know everyone's been saying a turning point, but there's a turning point action that people don't let this moment be a sad moment and that we don't honor what this young man did in such a short amount of time in his life. Well, what we can't allow to happen. is for the left or those or others who are trying to disparage Charlie Kirk and take out of context what he was saying and let them get away with it. Because, you know, he lived by the Davy Jasmine Crockett Creed, but also I think he understood that the greatest question of our era, and Kathleen, I teach this. You know, the first question of the United States was. Before we were a country, are we going to break away? Well, first, even before it was break away, you know, what's worth fighting and dying for? What are our priorities? And, of course, Patrick Henry Lee established those liberty or death. And then it was, you know, are we going to actually break away from the mother country? And then it was, how are we going to govern ourselves? And then it was, how are we going to relate with foreign nations? Right now, the greatest question of our era is what is truth and how do we find it? Or where do we find it? And, you know, my thing is, as soon as we identify that as the greatest question of our era, and I do think Charlie understood that. Yes. Because he was seeking to find truth. And I think we've gotten into a situation that we're in right now because too many of us, and I'm not pointing my finger at any individual, but as a society, we haven't sought to find the truth and then had the courage to stand up for it. And Charlie had the courage to stand up for what he was finding as truth. And then the left right now is spinning what he was finding as truth to call him evil. And that is evil in and of itself, because many are willingly and knowingly doing that. And Obama did that, I think even yesterday or two days ago, where he's saying some things either in ignorance or absolutely trying to spin. And there's a lot of other people doing the same thing. Yeah, it's justifying the assassination of anybody. I don't care of you. Like Charlie Kirk, hey, Charlie Kirk. Justifying the assassination because of words. When, yes, we have to take a break. Well, we're creating the climate. What's that? We have to take a quick break. It's just a minute. And we'll come right back. And I want to pick up there. We are talking to Jeff Ooch, who trains so many wonderful, incredible people.

Just stand up for this country in the same spirit that Charlie Kirk does and did. So stay with us. You're listening to Win Tucson on 1030 The Voice. You're trusted local news and talk. Kathleen Wynn. We'll be back with Jeff Ooch right after this. Welcome back to Win Tucson. I highly recommend that you go to the Arizona Daily Independent and read the article titled. He loomed large in life, written by Jeff Ooch, our guest here today. Jeff, um. The very top of your article says, wisdom to know what is right, faith and courage to act. And that is a perfect way to summarize Charlie Kirk. And he did put his faith first. He said that's what he wanted to be known for. Some people on the left have mocked him for that. I think I've never seen any time in my life. such hatred even after someone has been brutally murdered. And then I think there was such an outcry when people would step up. I know here in Tucson, Lane Santa Cruz. So I think, and she finally took her post down, but she had said, you know, God curse you, Charlie Kirk. Like who, you know, not having any social awareness of what, you know, they say read the room, right? Not being aware of who you are in the world. And we have freedom of speech. She has the right to say that. But so does everyone else have freedom of speech. And if. Right. And that's the part that gets missed. Well, I can say whatever I want to say, but you can't respond to it, you know. And that's where this has been breaking down, that freedom of speech is a two-way street, not a one-way street. Right. Well, I certainly don't want government getting involved. Like, you know, the Jimmy Kimmel incident, you know, there's enough backlash with the public and those advertising. We don't need the FCC to get involved. Yes. You know, we don't need that. And we don't need. And this is very concerning. You know, we don't need Pam Bondi coming out and talking about, you know, laws for hate speech. Now, you know, we've got to stay true to the founding fathers, the Constitution. Yes, and these beliefs, because that would be the wrong reaction. And Charlie would want us to, by the way. Charlie was so steeped in the Constitution, the rule of law. He.

I mean, when he would speak sometimes and he would say stuff, I was like, I didn't know that. And, you know, and I've studied that. I'm pretty aware. But he really did. was, as you said, he would research and he would make sure that he had the correct information. Well, and we have enabled. Now, this is part of the reason I wrote this article. It's not to convert the right. It's to get the, I mean, the left. It's not to convert the left. It's to ask those conservatives and patriots, not even, I won't even say right and left, but patriots, those who believe. in the Declaration of Independence and what was protected by the Constitution because we've allowed a toxic soil to grow weeds. And these weeds are false narratives. And we would have never gotten to this point had we been able to speak up. And in many issues, let's say climate change, it does require a certain amount of knowledge and study. to be able to speak out against, no, I'm not going to buy what you're forcing down my throat on this man-made climate change. But when we talk about something like men and women's sport, We know this inherently. You don't need the knowledge. You need the faith to do what's right and the courage to speak out. And I use an example because I know many of the coaches in Division I, Athletics and swimming. I was a swimmer at the University of Arizona. And, you know, we know the story most of your listeners do between Leah Thomas and Riley Gaines. And so I happened to know what happened at that NC2A championships. And you have, you know, a six-foot-four man, you know, posing as a woman competing. Right. And how many of the Division I coaches were willing to speak out other than under their breath and behind the seas? But, you know, it's courage that we need. So it's not too much free speech. It is us having too little, Kathleen, that we've not taken advantage to stand up and be courageous. And we'd never be here if we would have. Well, 100%. And what we know, Jeff, is that the media over the last so many years had a coordinated effort. to silence conservative voices. Charlie Kirk recognized it back when he started this organization in 2000.

you know, around the 2010s when he was just starting to pay attention, he noticed that kids in education were being indoctrinated. He really saw something and he set about to change it and he gave voice and courage to a whole generation. And that was evident in the last presidential election when young men turned out to vote. And he started talking to young men as a young man about who you needed to be. as a young man. Yes. And no one, it's different if you or I, we're older, says that to someone who's a young person because then we're like preaching, right? Even if we're not, because we're giving them our wisdom. Charlie, as a peer, was so effective because he was walking his talk. And he wasn't just saying it. And he was so not affected by, which is amazing considering what he built. He was not. You know, sometimes when people are influencers, they kind of get caught up in their own deal. He was not affected by it that way. He kept true to his mission. He, you know, he was supposed to be in Nashville this weekend speaking with Pastor Alan Jackson. Now, there are people there on his behalf, but it was a whole group of young people. He had, his calendar was away scheduled out. He was willing to go wherever and have conversations and get people to communicate. Communication was key to him. And we cannot, if we don't lose anything else besides our faith, we have faith first, but we have to be able to continue to dialogue. And I don't even care, but it's not respectfully. Everyone has the freedom of speech. That's what this nation is for. That's what this nation is about. And I, for one, hope we continue to provide the kind of platform that Charlie Kirk has. has perfected over the last 10, 12, 15 years. Right. Well, a lot of people ask, okay, what can we do right now? Yes. We know what we can do right now. Right now, we need to study the issues of the day. And if it's, if we're too busy, then pick one. and become an expert on at least one topic, you know, seek and you shall find, knock, and it shall be opened. And I believe that. And then have the courage to stand up and talk about the truth, you know, and not what's politically correct. And if we have a wave of people. that just stop hiding because of fear and starts telling the truth, then we're going to just overwhelm the country. You know, I know some great people who were very integral in Poland becoming free back in the day that I've spoken at my group. And the big question was asked, what happened? Why did Poland eventually just unshackled themselves?

And, you know, one of the – and this is Larry Reid, who got a huge award from the president of Poland last year. And also our local John McElroy, Dr. John McElroy, who's a Ph.D. Professor Emeritus at the University of Arizona. But both of them said it's because they decided to stop lying, lying to each other and themselves, that when they stopped lying – You know, that the shackles were unburdened, you know. And when we can stop lying to ourselves and each other about where we are and what we're doing and that all the sudden, it's amazing what happens when we can speak the truth. Yeah, the real power, as you know, is in the truth. I know you know. You know, if you can tell the truth, whether you want to tell the truth or not is a different story. But if we can be honest, so much more can be accomplished in this world. And we could really start to solve the complex problems as opposed to politicizing them. Absolutely. I think there are some real problems in our community, as you know. And I, for one, I'm tired of pushing the food around on the plate. So I think that now if, as... Any moment is perfect. This is a perfect moment to honor our God, to honor the work of Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk, to support his family that is left behind. and that includes all the people that are now asking to become part of this. And wouldn't it be wonderful if all those people that want to be part of Turning Point also return to God in their faith? Absolutely. I could see this as a wonderful time because so many young people, especially through COVID and everything else that's happened in the last five, six years have walked away and they were walking away before that. Wouldn't it be great? to bring people back to God into our great vision of the founding fathers, and especially as we had into our 250th celebration of this great experiment called the United States of America. If ever there was a time to do it, it's right now. Absolutely, Kathleen. We all need to step up. You're doing your part. Let's all try to do the best we can. And a lot of it comes through education. And Charlie loved his country. He loved his family. He loved God. And we can do the same. And I think a lot about what loving our country is, is learning the founding, learning, you know, why do we take an oak of office in the military? Why do our leaders take a note of office? What does it mean? And how do we support and defend the Constitution? How do we truly make America great again? These are the questions that need to be answered. And we can do that. And they do matter if we want to save this country for the next generation. We've got to answer those questions. And which we do. And I have to go. I want to thank you. All right. Thank you for having me. And we'll have you back again. And God bless you, Jeff.

I am so grateful for your friendship. You too. Thank you. You too. Thank you, Kathleen. Bye-bye. You've been listening to 1030 The Voice. Your trusted local news and talk. We come back. We're going to shift gears about telling the truth about John Brennan and about treason and what's gone on in this country leading up to this moment. Don't go anywhere. I'm Kathleen Wynne. This is Wynne Tucson. We'll be right back. Yes, we will not back down. I like that song. I may just start that every morning when I'm getting ready to come here to the station. Welcome back to Wynn Tucson on 1030, KVOI.com. I am so proud of my friend who is now joining me. I know some incredible people because of this movement because of what we're trying to do to save our country. Ian Trotier is an author. uh is a relentless researcher and um i um i think that uh when you hear his book the name of it you'll get it right away it's called high stakes treason and um I have to tell you that the work that you've put into this, Ian, I want you to share with the listeners. I don't want to steal your thunder, but it's really one of the most important books to see how much corruption got into the highest levels of our government. And I say still that some of the cancer is there. But welcome to Win Tucson. So glad to have you back on. Kathleen, thanks a lot for having me. It's funny. You're talking, or Trump's going to be talking to the Chinese about TikTok. I was just sent a file on something called the Third Opium War, how the Green Gang, a Chinese secret society allegedly uses fentanyl and other substances to undermine the foundation of the United States. I mean, this is... About a year and a half ago, we went on to that ranch there, just south. Yeah, you and I, right? Remember? Yeah, New Year's Day. New Year's Day. Is that what it was? It was New Year's Day, yes. Most people were home, you know, like nursing their hangovers. You and I were out in the desert looking at all the corruption that was going on at the border because at that point, the border was still wide open. And I see all the things I've done. So much fun. Okay, keep going because this is, your book is incredible. But you're right. You don't know this. Every Wednesday I do show China Watch Wednesday. We've been talked for a while. Wow. and the new federal state of china so we expose this and we haven't talked about the we know that china is the source of the fentanyl um

And you'll explain briefly to the listeners about the opium because they blame us and this is revenge. And they don't care about getting revenge next week like we do in America where you say something and I have to respond on social media within 10 seconds. They will take years and extract their revenge. Yeah. Yeah. And Arizonaans are what seems to be more and more from what I'm coming across. ground zero for much of this war because it's a border state. And, you know, Charlie Kirk, the turning, you know, not, just just segue real quick is a turning point. And I'll get into the book in a minute. But this is very critical because what we're seeing here with the lapse in the security, not only on the homeland, right? So not only, not only his blood in the FBI and the CIA, you know, not really CIA, more FBI and Homeland Security. But the blood is on his internal security team. I mean, what a tragedy. But, you know, we can get into that a little bit more. But high stakes treason, Kathleen, is, you know, people, people ask me, well, you know, how do we combat this? The socialist, communist, kind of. infiltration into the government and even in our schools and how do we how do we combat this well you know the left if you will we see it with antifa we sat with these violent BLM which were not protests Kamala Harris you know they they may have started as such we combat this by locking locking up criminals and so what we have here with high-stakes treason is what Roger Stone called three days ago on Stone Zone. He said it's the most important and shocking book in his 50 years, political books, in his 50 years. I listened to the interview, which is saying a lot, considering, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, it speaks false, right? Because again, going back, going back to Arizona, right? I mean, this is where it started before he's not in Arizona, but one of the Arizona politicians before he got into with Nixon. But this is highly critical and important is what has happened to what happened during the Obama years is. is surfacing, but with John Brennan, and I want to make it very, very clear, and I believe that we'll have my Intel source joining us a little bit later. Yes. Well, I want to make it very clear for listeners to understand that Kath, you know me through my activism. I was at CPAC. A year and a half ago. Ian, I don't know what you just did, but your phone just got wonky. It just, you sound garbled. Can you?

Okay. So I was at a CPAC two years ago, and this is Maryland. I was approached by a fellow that identified himself as a former FBI analyst. And he presented it with me, he presented me a binder. And I said, first thing I said, Kathleen, was is there anything confidential or classified in here? And he said, no, no. This is all open source. Okay. But what I present, what I present is information that the average person would not be able to kind of connect and track down because of my training in the FBI, almost 12 years in the FBI. The guy was hired and trained to critically analyze data. And he says, nobody's listening to me, Ian. And he says, my wife. Well, you're a good guy to come to because you are not shy and you do not hold back. So. He chose wisely. I like it. Keep going. So he says, you know, my wife thinks I'm crazy. He got fired by the FBI for his OCD. And then, and then Kathleen, he comes across. some of this weird stuff going on with Brennan, and then he gets fired by the private contractor that he's working for. So it's like this guy's been through, this guy's been through the ringer the past 20 years. And I look through it. And Kathleen, I've always suspicious. I always fall the money, right? So it's always about the money. It's always who's profiting and how are they profiting off the other person? What's going on here? So I look through the binder and I'm like, whoa, it's, It makes complete sense for me to do a podcast. And I take the information. I go through it and I say, I'm in better than I can. Ian, it's doing it again. It's horrible. I don't know if you're moving around or whatever, but if there's a way, because I want to hear what you have to say. It's so important. Okay. Yes, it's probably my, I'm sure it's my connection. Anyway, so I just, I went through Kathleen and I go through the information in the binder. I told him, I says, I will do everything I can to get this information out. And it's been, it's been full force for me project to get it where it's at today in form of a published book by Bombardier, which is an imprint of Post Hill Press. My point here is that the research in the book, the crux of that research is from this FBI analyst. It's not mine. I've gone through it. I've made edits. I've made additions to it. I've contributed to it. My name is on the cover because of a conflict of interest with the FBI. But the main material in it that people are going to read through, they must understand. that this is from an FBI analyst, very much a whistleblower, if you will. But not a whistleblower because he wasn't working with the FBI when he presented the information to me. So that's critical to understand. And Kathleen, it was very difficult for me to get...

to get him to agree for me to use his name. Now, I don't know if you're going to reveal his name or not. I don't need to. I don't need to. I just, that's why I texted you and asked you that question. Ian, I'm going to go to a quick break. I'm going to have you call back in just because I want to see if we can get a better connection. Okay. Because what we're about to talk about, which is in the book, is so important. I want everyone to hear about John Brennan. how he turned a small amount of money into millions and that story because that is so important. It's at the heart of this book and every document that supports what you're saying is there. So we are talking to Ian Trottier, his book, High Stakes Treason, and you are listening to Win Tucson on 1030 The Voice. Your trusted local news and talk. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back to Wind Tucson on this Friday edition, and we are talking to Ian Trotier, who has written an incredible book that details the corruption inside the Obama administration. But bigger than that, John Brennan is a communist, and he had a job that was high up in government, and he worked to pretty much... distract and destroy Donald Trump for three and a half years during his presidency. Is that a fair assessment of what happened? Oh, Kathleen, that hits it. That hits it on the head there. I mean, this is the information. Brennan is being investigated right now for his part in the Russian hoax. As soon as I had approached Roger Stone about this, Kathleen. Yes. Within 24 hours. He gets back to me, and he says, and keep in mind, I had a General Flynn that was initially agreed. He'd agreed to write the forward, and he says, I'm real busy. I can get to it in a couple months. In that meantime, I had approached Roger, and he says, you need me to write this forward. And I says, well, Roger, I've got, you know, General Flynn. And there's three forwards. Yeah. Okay. And there's three forwards that I provide in that book. It's John Carriaco, who's vehement. He reveals some real interesting things about Brennan. And then a great friend of mine, Brooks Agnew, who's a former speech writer for Alan Keyes. So those are the three forwards that readers will find in the book. But, you know, I says, Roger, I says, I've got General Flynn looking at this. And he's agreed to. to contribute the forward he's busy now but he says no no no you you need me to write the forward and that's and i think about it i'm like um i gave him the green light i said okay go ahead so no he he he he knew this story He was affected by the story. He was affected by the corruption. He was affected by the lies and the false narrative and all of it. So I understood why he fought to write the foreword. But please, what's so, I want people to get your book and they can get it on Amazon, I'm assuming. Is there another way to get it to high stakes treason? Ian Trotier. Go ahead. Yeah, high stakes treason.com.

Highstakestreason.com. They can, they can, I just had, I just shipped a book out. I was with Mel Kay a couple weeks ago and some guy listening to a podcast and want to sign copy. So if folks want to sign copy, they can literally Venmo, I-A-N-T-R-O-T-I-R with the mailing address and I'll get out signed copy for 35 bucks. Or they can go to high-stakes treason.com do the same thing or Amazon. Those are the, the two outlets. But this is, getting back to the Russian hoax, if I can here, Kelly, this is. This is... Go ahead. No, you go ahead. Please. Oh, this is critical. This is critical because what we will see, what we will see, and this is why Roger has stayed in the past few days that he's going to push this. The DOJ needs to immediately expand that investigation to consider the components and the information in this book because what... Stone is saying is that Brennan has orchestrated the Russian collusion hoax, and it's likely that he did it because of this information in this book, which is very critical. And we'll get into it a little bit more in depth here. So there's a company that Brennan was heading before he joins the Obama administration. And this is called the Analysis Corporation. The Analysis Corporation is tracking terror movement globally. What we know through the Edward Snowden X-Kee score leak is that the director of the CIA had all information regarding NSA code word compartments. This is where the TAC, Analysis Corporation, would have been feeding the intelligence group the tracking of the terrorist cells and where they're operating, where they're moving globally. So. It was important when he, when Brennan, seemingly, this is the allegation in the book. I'm making no accusation, of course. It's an allegation. But what happened is when he joined the Obama administration, he signed an ethics waiver in 2009 by Norm Eisen. Obama would have signed off on that. And what that ethics waiver stated. was that he essentially was relieving all financial control, or excuse me, all financial interest in the analysis corporation. Right. What we show... It wouldn't it be a conflict of interest given the role he was about to take? Exactly. You hit it on the head right there, Kathleen. It would have been a complete conflict of interest. Absolutely. Okay. What we show through documentation, we have SEC... SEC documentation in our appendix is almost 100 pages long the complete compilation of the book is 430 pages what we show is that that was a false official statement that's a major crime are you saying he lied like maybe a Fed chair did on her mortgages are you saying that these people that are going into the government aren't being truthful

Kathleen, no sarcasm here. No, no sarcasm here. I have to be, I have to be glib because they think that the law is for us, not for them. And they think that these disclosures are a nuisance, yet they're required, and they're required so that you don't compromise while you're in this position. You don't look out for your own best interest and get enriched above your paycheck. for the job that you're doing. But Mr. Brennan made, you know, whatever Hillary Clinton's deal was, where she made millions and millions, look like child's play. Yeah, no, I mean, this is, this is exactly right. You know, as you're saying this, it's like, we've got a, not to, not to, not to, not to, anyway, we've got, we've got, we've got the ringer here on Brennan. We, we have got it, Kathleen. Yes. And he needs to be made, he needs to be made an example of. He needs to be indicted, needs to be in court. He needs to be delivered to appropriate punishment. This is heavy. And so, yes, that's exactly what we are saying, Kathleen, is that a false official statement is an open acknowledgement of an untruth, a distruth, a lie, if you will. He did not divest. He did not divest from this company. No, we, what we show is Rachel Molinaro, who's an officer for the ethics department, has made a note. And we show that we give this. It's part of the book. Everything you're talking about is in the book, just so people can say. Absolutely. Okay, go ahead. Keep going. Yeah. It's all in the appendix. She has written a note on the bottom of this financial disclosure statement form that writes in literally, with her handwriting, seemingly, that he would be transferring the stocks that were held in a 401K that they would be converted into an IRA. Now, if he had done that, that $50,000 value of stock shares he owned intact. would have been liquidated immediately. So the 401K would have transferred in the IRA. She makes note of it. It's public information. In subsequent filings, we show that he retained... stock in a 401k in the analysis corporation which changed its name to soltero defense but it gets better it gets better because that stock then he had influence right he still had influence absolutely and then what happens every time every time there's a every time there's an attack yes a terror attack that affects the united states

Well, the war on terror gets funded, which means the private contractor, the analysis corporation, receives funding from us to taxpayers through Congress, which increases the value of that stock. That he was supposed to have gotten and liquidated and not have interest in. Correct. That's absolutely right. So there's three main terror attacks. that I show in high-stakes treason that he profited off of. And the first one was in 2009, which is why he signed the ethics waiver. It was a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit, otherwise known as the underwear bombing on Christmas Day. That's the first terror failed terror attack, but he would have profited from it. The second one, and this is what caught the eye of the FBI analyst. This is what caught the eye of John. In 2011, there was an attack in Norway by Anders Breivik. This is what, and this is what got him fired from his job, literally, because he, I mean, when we talk to this guy, people are going to be blown away. So this is what got John fired. This is what John got. Not John Brennan, but John, the FBI analyst. Okay, go ahead. Keep going. I just tracking for people. Sure. So he, so he, he, he's known, he's knowing some of the information going on here. And he's like, wait a second. This is. This is, it is, it is not possible that John Brennan did not know of some of the precursor details that led up to this bombing. And he did nothing. In a nutshell, he did nothing to alert our NATO ally of this suspicion. So again, allowing that terror attack to happen, the allegation, of course, increases his stock portfolio and value. And then the third. The third terror attack is the one that was the clincher for me. Now, I was already captivated by this research. But this is the one that really hit home for me. And this is the Boston Marathon bombing. Because there you're directly affecting lives. You're directly affecting American lives. and you're basically allowing them a la 9-11. Let's just, let's just, let's just paint a different narrative because, you know, not to, not to segue here, but we all know that building number seven went down flat as a pancake and it wasn't hit. So let's just paint a different narrative, George Tennant, who John Brennan was his chief of staff when 9-11 was hit. Let's paint a different narrative and say, wait a second. If all of this information is true, which I personally stand by, Kathleen, obviously it's my name on it, and I've printed the book through Bombadier, then that means John Brennan has knowingly allowed a terror attack on our homeland knowing it would kill Americans. Why?

to enrich himself, to profit himself, so that he could gain value in his stock, which through that time period of time, from 2009 to 2013, which we're looking at, the allegation is that his stock value of $50,000 worth of shares ended up just shy of under $5 million. Oh, there you go. Nothing to see here, nothing to see, you know. Oh, that's okay. Right. It was a good investment, right? Oh, I forgot to disengage from the defense contracting company. What was his title? What was he? He was a senior advisor to the Homeland Security. And what's more disgusting is that this, as you mentioned, self-proclaimed communist, because when he was at the University of Texas in Austin, he supported a communist, the communist candidate for president. And furthermore, in the 90s, he's converting to Wahhabism. which is not just Islam. This is the radical violent sect of Islam, from my understanding is Wahhabism. This is John Brennan. So not only does he cash in on these stocks, these are the allegations, but he goes from senior advisor to the Homeland Security to being the director of the CIA, where and when he orchestrates the Russian collusion hoax. There you go. And on what I believe is the greatest president this country's ever seen. And I don't disagree with you. And he's coming to my state on Sunday. So we're going to take a quick break because it's top of the hour. We have a news break. And we come back. I think we're going to be joined by your friend, John. Is that true? That's what I understand. Okay, good. So you are listening to Win Tucson on 1030 The Voice, your trusted local news and talk. We need to keep shining light on all the corruption, on all the darkness, and we need to keep using our voices and have the courage and stand up and say not on our watch. It's God's time. We're going to go with it. And I'm going to keep bringing on people that know what is going on in our government because you need to know. We will be right back. I'm Kathleen Wynn. This is Wynne Tucson on 1030 The Voice, KVOI.com with Ian Trotier. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back to Win Tucson on 1030 The Voice. Before we jump back into our conversation with Ian Trotier and we've been joined by John, former FBI employee who is the source of a lot of the information that's in the book. I just need to let you know that each day that Charlie's show would come on after ours.

since his passing over a week ago, we've had everybody, Glenn Beck, we had Megyn Kelly yesterday, but today, right after our show is Tucker Carlson. I want you to know that he'll be joining us and, well, not us, but you can turn on after Wind Tuzon, but don't go anywhere now because what we're telling you is just as good. And I'm excited to say that. Also, we'll be carrying... the service live here on Sunday. I'll give you the details as we get closer to the end of our show. But we are now talking to Ian Trottier, to John. John, welcome to Win Tucson. Thank you for joining us in this really important conversation because I think so much of... the mischief in our government is coming from internal traitors, treasonous acts by those that served us, especially under the Obama administration, but also under Biden. So thank you for sharing this story. It's so critically important if we're going to get the corruption out of our government. And well, thank you. Thank you for inviting me to... Ian, here, let John talk for just a second. Go ahead. Sorry. Oh, Kathleen, thank you for inviting me on. And, yeah, I just want to get this information out to the public to let them know that this corrupt man did so much damage to our country. And he committed very serious crimes. to enrich himself. Yes. And we were talking about that before you joined us. So I was going to let Ian finish up that and then transition into the evidence that you gave Ian which allowed for this book to come come out. Is that okay, guys? Is that okay? We do it. Okay, good. That's great. And I don't know if John knew I was still on. So, but what I was going to say here is I want listeners to connect the dot to communism. And we're very fortunate to have John on here to talk about the research that he did. And again, he spent years and years compiling this and working on this. But what it was important is to connect the communist. trail here. And Kathleen, what I want to point out is this is nothing other than a complete brainwashing of Americans that gravitate to the left that took out Charlie's life. And I identify that as a communist incursion. That's how I see it through my lens. And we can follow the trail all the way back to communist, to McCarthyism, right? So this is a This isn't... And not Kevin McCarthyism, just so people know. Yeah, right. Okay, just to be funny. All right. And thank you for that. And I think where we were right before we went to the news break was we were just saying how he had made over $5 million from an asset that he should have divested from his interest in the...

company. An analysis corporation. He should have not, he should have divested from it. He shouldn't have had an interest in it because then his job was allowing him, I'm sure, to pick and choose contractors and he was getting rich off of things that he may, and I didn't say this and I'm going to ask, did he have something to do with the Boston bombing? Like did he, did he? Or did they just wait for these things to happen? And then he made sure the company that he had stock in was used. The evidence of his meetings with that intelligence analyst named Michael Jay Jones, who worked. So Brennan was the founding director of the National Counterism Center. He hired the first 36 intelligence analysts. from the other intelligence agencies. And he hired people specifically with only one or two years of work experience. So pretty ignorant people who would trust a career CIA officer who had been a chief of station and chief of staff to the CIA. So his credentials professionally would overwhelm the, um, the belief system of a brand new employee. And then I found that Brennan was meeting with this one particular intelligence analyst at the White House prior to three specific terrorist attacks. I don't know if Ian mentioned that to you. Yes. But this was all documented in the public record. And the coincidence of him meeting with this personally... conducting one-on-one face-to-face meetings. One-on-one face-to-face meetings are done when you're meeting with a person who's very junior to you. They're done so you can get the information from him without him providing a paper trail of the information he provided. That's what mafia leaders do. That's what foreign intelligence agencies do, right? So what you're saying is that assassins don't normally text their boyfriends and tell them everything that they've just done. No, only the very disordered ones do that. Okay, all right. Just, I just had to get that. And we're not talking about that today and maybe, but I just have to say that I don't think we've heard the rest of the story on the Charlie Kirk assassination. That's just my antenna going up. I don't know of any evidence. I just think that it's way more nefarious than we may know. My sense is that, but I haven't looked into all the details. Yeah, and I appreciate you holding the line on that. I just, with what you're about to tell us, because I'm aware, I am confident that there's a lot of corruption still baked into the cake here in this country. Unfortunately, that is the case.

So I noticed how I got involved was I was no longer an FBI agent. I was working for a government contractor. I didn't have any government accounts at this contracting company. And we didn't do any classified contracts for the government. I had commercial clients only. But my job was to look at open source information to see what might affect one of my clients. And I noticed this anomaly that these terrorist attacks would occur. And then we would be told, oh, we didn't have any prior warning about these people. And when I looked into the details of the court records or other records, you know, government records related to these attacks, it was obvious that the NSA should have picked up. Right. A tremendous amount of information on these people. So how could the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence or the Intelligence Community Inspector General's reports say there were no references in U.S. government databases prior to the day of the attack in these three instances. And I was, so I was thinking about that based on my employment history with the FBI. And I was like, well, the only way that can happen is one of two ways. It wasn't collected, which is extremely unlikely. Or somebody put it into a code word compartment file and no one was allowed to look at it except for the guy who opened the code word compartment file. Well, who has authority to open code word compartment files? John Brennan. Intelligence at the National Counterterrorism Center. Ah. And Brandon is meeting with this one particular one prior to these three terrorist attacks. So for me, it was like a logical conclusion. This analyst opened code work compartment files. He directed the NSA to put all the collection they had made on these three people into these files. And just so you people know, once the NSA is sending information to a code work compartment file, the NSA is no longer allowed to look at the raw data. The raw data gets collected and it automatically sends those files. The NSA is no longer able to see what's being collected. Only the guy who runs the file can see what's being collected. And here's Brennan meeting with this person who had that authority who was in that location prior to these three terrorist attacks. And then I was thinking to myself, now what would be in it for Brennan to allow these attacks to occur? And that's when I started looking up his personal financial disclosure forms. And that's when I found his ownership of the stock in this indispensable government contractor. There is no more important government contractor for counterterrorism than the analysis corporation. They own the terrorist tracking database. Yes. If anyone wants to look up. who might be a terrorist. If they wanted to check if Tulsi Gabbard before she got onto an airplane was a terrorist, they had to check with the analysis corporation. That was true for everybody who flies on an airplane. So he held this stock in this company when he was told to get rid of it. And then he lied in his subsequent financial disclosure forms that he disposed of it.

And I was able to show that with the Securities and Exchange Commission documents that he still held onto it and then he made $4.85 million off of this. Which is reprehensible. We have to take a quick break, gentlemen. I'm so sorry. It's very quick. You are listening to 1030 The Voice with Ian Trotier and John, the FBI agent, who are exposing John Brennan's corruption and how he has... done treasonous acts against this country, against our current president, and against those who call the United States of America their home and want it to stay free. I'm Kathleen Wynn. This is Wynn-Tusan. We'll be back right after this on 1030. Your trusted local news and talk. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back to Win Tucson on 1030 The Voice. I am joined by John, who has provided an incredible information to Ian Trotier on so he could write this book, High Stakes, Treason. Ian, if people want to get your book, tell them where they can get it. Uh, high stakes treason.com. Okay. Or Amazon, just type in high stakes treason. Okay, thank you. Get a signed copy. Yeah, yes. Yeah, get a signed copy. I'm going to do that today. Um, and, uh, John, so back to where we were, um, you've got all this evidence. Uh, what happens to it? Did, did someone want to correct it? Uh, you know, it? Were you welcomed and someone said, oh, great, you've got all this information? I don't think that's what happened. That is not what happened. I reported it my findings to every intelligence agency I could. I did it through their online sites. I mailed it to very, I did meet with a couple of people in Congress. And I guess I didn't present it very well to them. I did a much better job presenting it to Ian. Yes. So you didn't make it public. And so because they didn't do that, nobody worked on it. And I can understand that. I'm making accusations that at least one former CIA director. possibly two others, including and then including the President of the United States committed treason. Yes, but not this president. Not this president. Thank God for this president. Yeah, I just want to make that clear because that'll be something else that'll be on a sign tomorrow here in Tucson, Arizona, if I don't clarify, it wasn't this president, the one that you love to hate. This president is saving our republic. Yes. So anyway, and then I, so I, decided that I would look for someone who might be willing to take the risk of taking my information and publicizing it so that our country could see what had happened. And Ian has picked up that baton and he's done amazing things. I mean, the fact that I'm on the radio with you today is duty, Ian. And I'm very grateful for that. Very grateful.

Well, I want to say, so just second, Ian, I just want to say thank you to the both of you. So much we hear about things, you know, Arizona, the land of election fraud, and still working on cases from 2020. We, there is no, and the DOJ, I'm sure has, you know, a special place in their heart for Arizona. We, we have. We had open borders. We had fentanyl poisoning. We had human smuggling and trafficking. We have cartel-run organizations. We have it all. We are a picture of what is wrong and the corruptness that's going on in our country. I hate to say that. I love where I live. I love my state. But we have elected people and we have people in charge. that look the other way and we see that more from one side than the other i'm not saying it doesn't happen on both sides i think there's corruption in both parties but when you have such substantial evidence that's real not like the russian dossier that was made up you want to make sure that we get this it's a cancer it's a cancer in this nation and we've got to eradicate it and we've got to get it out And when no one is listening and you're still persisting in what you're trying to get out, get your message out, that takes some moral courage. And I just want to say thank you for being those guys, for being willing to tell the truth. And I'm going to say at all costs because when people tell the truth and other people don't want to hear it, they try to cancel you. They try to shut you down. They try to discredit you. for telling the story. And I'm confident that this is going to get where it needs to go. And then when it finally comes out, people go, oh, yeah, yeah. And I know how hard both of you have worked to get to this point. So I just didn't want to not say that. So, Ian, you're next. Go ahead. Yeah. What I wanted to mention is, John, the fact that we have true patriots and truth tellers in our intelligence. services. From the outside perspective, it's easy to say that the organizations are compromised. Well, certainly they're compromised. We have men like John, even though he wasn't with the FBI when he presented the information to me and he'd been out for almost two decades. The fact that he was persistent, we're talking about an American hero here that we have on the line with this here, Kathleen. And more importantly, I also wanted to say this. I also want to say that it's, the buck doesn't stop with the three of us, right? So the buck that John here. kept pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing he came across me i was able to elevate it and and make his voice louder right but yes folks that are listening to this we we also and that would be the three of us we rely on the readers to take the next step right so go through the information but act on it you know i mean we must demand answers we must demand as you say we must demand this cleansing to take place within our government

Well, I think it's so, absolutely. If we don't, if we don't get rid of this and this, you know, not for me, but for the mentality in our government, we've got to restore the original. vision of the founding fathers for this nation, which didn't have the government controlling every aspect of our life, didn't have the government selling us out. They wanted very little government involvement and they wanted us to have the freedoms that we should have that have been co-opted and corrupted over the last few years with everything. And we've got other foreign entities, maybe some that have TikTok, that are doing us harm. And just pointing that out. And I think that it's so critical that we don't keep empowering the bad guys. And even worse than that, just ignoring what was done. Because if they can get away with it once, they'll continue to get away with it. And the Russian dossier was just a perfect example. And John Brennan had his fingerprints all over that too. And well, Ian and I have talked about this, we realized that, hey, this is 4.85 million reasons for John Brennan to do the Russian hoax. Yes. This crime that we documented, or that I documented, and Ian is publicized, wow, this would really be the motive for that sort of thing. And, you know, it's not a political motive. It's a criminal motive. Brennan had a criminal reason to go after Trump because he realized he could be exposed and what he had done. And American citizens died so he could make money. And he could have prevented those attacks. In the book, I lay out, look, this is what was known beforehand. And this is what was withheld from the FBI so that these people could succeed. Well, withholding information, if you have sentry on guard around your base, and that century sees the enemy coming and does nothing to stop them, he's committed treason against his compatriots. And that's what happened in these cases. And what happens to those people that commit treason? What's supposed to happen to them? John is supposed to be tried, executed. I tried and executed. Good. I like that as a plan. We have to take an end of our news break. I know. They keep coming up. They keep interrupting our conversation. I'm really sorry about that. But it's the radio station. They make me do this stuff. You are listening to 1030 The Voice. This is Wynne Tucson. I'm Kathleen Wynn with John and Ian. You know what? We're talking about treason because there are those in our country who don't love our country and don't love us. Don't go anywhere. We'll be back right after this. And just know we're going to have all the details for Charlie Kirk's service on Sunday. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back to Win Tucson.

I love people in this nation that see you wrong and try to correct it. Problems, not politics. Let's bring solutions to the very core of what is wrong with our country. Do we need fentanyl poisoning? No. Do we need espionage? No. Do we need corrupt leaders? Absolutely not. And I have to agree with our guest today that... I don't care of you, hate Donald Trump. What he's doing right now isn't to benefit him. Some people may disagree. It's to benefit this nation to restore order at a time where we're headed into our 250th anniversary birthday, if you will. And if you think it's by accident, the timing of this, you're not paying attention. 9-11, all the things that they did, those that hate... other human beings that hate freedoms. We're coming up on October 6th, 7th again, what happened in Israel. Honestly, you have to pay attention to the signs. And my good friend Charlie Kirk always paid attention to that. He was so wise. I will be there on Sunday. I will let you know about that on Monday. But we cannot ignore what is happening and not speak up. I am so thrilled to have on. John, I have to say thank you for putting your neck on the line for exposing all this because it does put a target on your back. Those that are evil and conniving and corrupt. there's certain entitlement that they have. Like they feel entitled, like they can do it. Kind of like Jimmy Kimmel, but even Barack Obama in the last few days, kind of making a half-hearted, oh, I'm sorry this happened. You know, I didn't think like Charlie Kirk. Who cares how you think? We don't care what you think. And I am. I'm just disappointed that so many people can't, for just a moment, give Charlie Kirk a moment and grace, even if you hated everything he said, which was silly because he allowed everyone to have their point of view. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox. Go ahead. So who's going to take the lead right now? I think John. John, go ahead, please. Well, I would like to say that.

John? I wish I had the courage. I wish I had Charlie Kirk's courage. I didn't. You know, I first made my report to the FBI in 2011, and I had a wife and four minor children to protect. And so when they, when I was fired and I couldn't work for two years because I'd made this report to the FBI, I hunkered down. I was like, look, I got to protect my family. And I don't have any resources to protect them other than to, you know, go to ground. But when I went to ground, I was like, well, what can I do? I can continue to research and look into this stuff. And as Ian said, it took it took about six years for me to gather all the publicly available information that shows that John Brennan did what he did. And so I just was so impressed by Charlie Kirk. What a hero. What a hero. I have to say, I remember them before they had their headquarters where so many people have come in the last week. And before they had anything. And I feel so blessed that I got to watch during that same time period that you just mentioned, I think 2012, his relentlessness. He's just been relentless. And so unwavering, I think that's the most incredible thing. Because young people tend to get, and this is not a condemnation, but they're not as focused and not as committed. And if something easier or better comes along, they'll run off and do that. He didn't do that. He was on a mission. And he executed, you know, I'm sure there were breakdowns, things didn't go exactly as planned. But he was flawless in what he was committed to and what he was going to do. And so I'm sad for so many, so many, just so many. I'll just leave it there. And John, I think, you know, there's only one Charlie Kirk. I know they're saying I am Charlie, or I'm Charlie Kirk too, but I think. For right now, as we make this transition into with, I think it's now 57,000 requests for chapters. We got tons of work to do. And I want to build it bigger, better. I want to give young voices an opportunity to learn and grow and pour in our faith and pour in our freedoms and the founding father's intention for this country. So they put it on their shoulders that we wanted to come another 250 years, build something beyond yourself.

Because whether Charlie realized it or not, that's what he's done. He's built something beyond himself. And Erica and their children... It matters to Erica that her husband's legacy is not forgotten, that Charlie Kirk has not forgotten. I don't know where she's getting her strength, except from God, and her courage to step up at this difficult time in her life. I'm glad that the board of directors made her the CEO. I am confident she's a smart girl, and her and Charlie have a lot in common. He was a great researcher. I'm hoping that his team comes around her. And with everything that they've done, which happened before she ever got there, that they can pour into each other and bring the best version of what Charlie Kirk was trying to do out to the world. That would be a fitting tribute to this young man. And it hurts my heart. So meanwhile, back here. I'm getting back. Getting back to our traitor. Yes, yes. Our traitor that we can now have a court hearing and shot at dawn. I think that sounds like a good plan. I'm not advocating that. Go ahead. This came out in a recent panel discussion that Ian set me up with the other day was... treason, all right? Treason against the United States is very specifically described in the Constitution, and it can only happen during a time of war. The Supreme Court has ruled it can only happen during a time, but they've declared war. Well, we haven't had to declare war since 1945. Oh, wow. Which protects all of the deep state traders. They're like, well, you can't charge me with treason. Because there's no war. However, here's where they made a mistake, I believe. It is also a very well-established legal precedent that the Congress has the authority to delegate its constitutional authority to other entities. Every violation of an EPA law, every violation of any of our regulations. is actually the Supreme Court said, well, the Congress delegated their authority to set those laws, those regulations to these other entities. Well, the Congress did the same thing when it signed certain treaties with foreign governments. We, the United States Senate delegated our authority to declare war to the North Atlantic Treaty. by ratifying it and saying that under Article 5, an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us. And that made the global war on terror and declared war. And so Brennan is at risk because it was a declared war. Our government asked for Article 5 to be activated. The NATO Supreme Council activated Article 5. And in fact, Norway...

had troops fighting alongside the United States in Afghanistan for 20 years. And that's important because it was an attack on the government of Norway, which the Obama administration allowed to happen, which constituted my introduction into Brennan's corruption. It was the terrorist attack on July 22nd, 2011. that revealed what had been, what had gone on with this guy, Anders Breivik. He used Google to look up how to make a car bomb because he had no prior experience. And he spent two weeks looking up literally over a thousand key words related to making a car bomb using Google. Well, as it shows in the book, Edward Snowden leaked an NSA document in 2013, which said by February of 2008, the NSA had 100% coverage of all internet activity in Norway. Well, Google is some of that internet activity. Why didn't anyone from the NSA report that that Norway was going to be attacked by this guy? He was going to try and decapitate the government of Norway. Well, they did report it, but they reported it to a code word compartment. And that's when I identified this intelligence analyst Michael Jay Jones. Because two days before the terrorist attack in Norway, the day before the terrorist attack in Norway, the day of the attack, five days after the attack. Then a couple of weeks after the attack, this same intelligence analyst is meeting with John Brennan. What are the chances that it's not related to the worst terrorist attack that occurred in Europe since 1945? He had to be involved. And that's what led to me looking for other times that Jay Jones met with Brennan in the White House, and it turns out, He met with him before the underwear bombing in 2009. And Ian may have mentioned that because Brennan had been the CEO of the Analysis Corporation for a short period of time, he needed an ethics waiver from the president to participate in the after-action review of how the underwear bomber got on the plane. Well, that ethics waiver specifically says of primary importance to this determination that you can participate is the fact that you no longer have a financial interest in this company. Well, his financial disclosure forms show that he did still have a financial interest in the company. That was a false official statement, as were all of his subsequent... And what would that charge be? That would be a title 18. Go ahead. Yeah, Title 18, Section 1001, false official statement. Okay. And what is the consequence of that? Not as much as treason, of course, but part of the problem. Well, it's up to five years in jail. Okay, that's a good start. And he filed, but he filed eight subsequent false official statements in his financial disclosure forms. Does he get five years for each count? Yes. How old is he now?

But then it also means almost everything. Okay, so five times eight if convicted, is that 40? 40 years. Yeah, 40, 70. Good luck. I think, you know, don't even, I mean, I'd rather see him rot in prison than anything. Absolutely. You know, let him have a miserable end of his life. He doesn't deserve it. Well, and then there's all of the time. John, go ahead. that he spoke with the president related to counterterrorism. That's a violation of conflict of interest laws. Another five years in jail. Well, how many conversations about counterterrorism did the National Security Advisor for counterterrorism have with the President of the United States? Probably every day. That's literally about conversations. So we're talking thousands of years in jail for all of those violations. But I think the treason one is really the best because there's no statute of limitation on treason. Let me mention a couple things. This is, John and I present this. We present this in high stakes trees, and John has no, he's unable to have any financial interest in this. So that's what I'm saying. This man is a, is an American hero. But this is all presented in the appendix, White House visitor logs, SEC documents. When readers buy, when people buy this, they're going to find all of this explicitly well meticulously documented. in the 430 pages, 100 pages of appendix. But more importantly, also, one of the forwards is written by John Carriacou. And at that panel discussion that John's talking about that was formed by my literary agent in New York, we had John on video. And so that is a great video for people to go and listen to. And it's right now, I think, live on PJ Media. But John Carriacu also has some major contributions because of the former CIA. operative. He has some major contributions to understanding John Brennan. But more importantly, the drive I want to make here is that whether this person goes to prison for the rest of his life or whether he receives the constitutional requirement of having committed treason, we as Americans, as constitutional Republicans, must make a an example of this person and when we do yes Other dominoes are going to begin to fall. Exactly. Yeah, 100%. Gentlemen, I hate to do this. We have to take a very quick break. We'll come back and we'll finish up. We are talking to John, FBI. I've got your name here. John. I almost said it. I'm not going to do that. And Ian Trotier, and we are talking about treason because we know that John Brennan, high-stakes treason, committed it. And this book,

details it, and you need to get it. So highstake treason.com. You're listening to 1030 The Voice, your trusted local news and talk. I'm Kathleen Wynn, and this is Wynne Tucson. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back to Wind Tucson. I'm talking to Ian Trotier, author of High Stakes Treason, a story about John Brennan and what he has done to enrich himself and to harm the American public and put us at risk. A lot of the information comes from John, FBI agent, who has spent, I would say, over 10 years. almost closer to 15, bringing this story, you know, there's a timing for everything. And... I think now is the time to start to expose this. It's been the time. You know, this president has had us on fast forward since he got back in office. And he understands, as we head into the midterms, he has to make a case to the American people. And I think that this is part of that, showing where we've been and why what they said was all of it was untrue. So, gentlemen. We've got about eight minutes left or six minutes, seven minutes left. So who's going to go ahead and help me? Let me mention this is the most exquisitely timed release of a book in the history of publishing, and that is a quote, Kathleen, from Steve Bannon, end quote. My friend. He was here Wednesday. Your friend? Yeah, yeah. Awesome. Yeah, I mean, this is, everything has its timing. When John presented that binder to me at CPAC, I says, John, I says, wait a second, what this shows is treason? And John and I. And there's a film director we've been working on in regards of possibly getting this in video. And there's a small group of us that have been working on this just nonstop since John first brought it to my attention. And we've been talking about treason now for going on two years. So a year, well over a year and a half now. And it's interesting enough that the day this book was released by Post Hill Press. The imprint is Bombadier. The day the book is released, Trump is in the Oval Office for the President of the Philippines, literally calling Obama out for treason. That is the exact day the book is released. We had no control over that. Oh, I think you orchestrated the whole thing. I think this was a coordinated effort. By God. Good job. I mean, honestly. But see, that's what I'm saying.

You know, this, we cannot ignore the signs around us. We may not like everything this happened, but I am so confident that if we continue to do the right thing and do it not about ourselves, but about honoring God, we have a path forward. If we don't get that, I think. this world as we know it will cease. And I... And I want... Go ahead. I want John to talk here because it's critical that his voice has heard more so than mine. But what I also want to say is for your listeners in Tucson. And even Arizona, wherever it you may be, Arizona, and this is how I opened up my time with you, Kathleen. Arizona, from my research and what I've seen over the past few years, Arizona is very much ground zero for this Patriot moving. Thank you. I think so. We're fighting back. But you have to go where. As you know, our stolen elections are, you know, everything that we've been through. 2020, I can tell you for sure that Donald Trump won. I know that I'm an election denier and all that stuff. But Donald Trump and what we were doing here. And so this was, again, I'm glad that we went through four years. So that could all be exposed. And now we fix it. And we look to see what. we can do to make sure that this doesn't happen again and that we make it unbreakable. John, please go ahead. Well, I think a really a great thing about this book, which could be very helpful in pushing forward the efforts to get rid of this deep state people, is John Brennan is very exposed because he left a paper trail. The paper trail is the thing that will hang in. And by using that paper trail as a hammer against him, they can force him to then testify against everybody else. And that's what I would hope is done with this information, is use it as a hammer against him and say, how you are done. But you can still make a deal. And if you make a deal and you start coughing up, all your co-conspirators, then we can mitigate what may happen to you and where you actually end your days. That's what I'm looking. Kevin, can I insert here, because we've got, with John here, I'd like him to break down, John, would you please break down the connection again that you think exists? Because remember, I go to John and I says, wait a second, John, December, was it December 9th John, 2016, where I've submitted a FOIA, and I've mentioned this on the Stone Zone, and I mentioned this from Matt Bill Gates on OAN.

uh that is that is a recording of where this russian collusion hoax likely uh uh uh incepted uh december 9th i believe at 2016 is the date with rice and clapper of brandon obama it's all uh and if we can get access we've got two minutes so so go go go go john what i want to do is break that was looking the connection Right. I was looking at the documents that Director Tulsi Gabbard revealed that she declassified and published. And it turns out that at least two participants in that particular meeting, they were participating via secure video telecall, which means that that whole meeting was recorded by the two agencies that those representatives were from. One was from State Department and one was from Department of Defense. And that recording still must exist. And so none of those people could deny what happened in the meeting because it's recorded. And is that recording safe? I have no idea. I have no idea. But that, you know, I pointed that out to Ian, and Ian took the initiative to file a FOIA request with the Department of Defense to get a transcript of that meeting. And so there's... I think that's what Ian was referring to. That's correct. That's absolutely right. And this is why I also push for listeners to get involved. If something resonates, get the book, yes. But if something resonates, run that up the stream, run that up the stream, which is basically what I've taken. You mentioned a word baton. I've taken the baton from John here and push this out. And we rely on other people. We rely on other people in the public to do that. We've got to work together to take down this apparent a deep state crime syndicate. Absolutely 100%. So we have come to the end of our time, and I am looking forward to having this story unfold. Gentlemen, again, thank you so much for everything you've done. I've got to go. This Sunday, Charlie Kirk's service, they begin at 10.30. You can hear them here on KVOI. Thank you, Charles Heller, for giving up your shows, so we can honor Charlie Kirk. Go out and make it a great weekend. I'll share everything on Monday. Ian, John, thank you. And you've been listening to 1030 The Voice, your trusted local news and talk. I'm Kathleen Wyn. This has been Wynne Tucson. Stay safe, everybody.