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We have made it to Friday. I cannot tell you how excited I am. Soon you will have ballots in your hands. So many races are... heating up. And, but I have to say there was a, I guess it wasn't a debate. There was Alex Colliden, Gina Sabota on Ted Simon's show, Horizon. And I have invited Alex on this morning. So Alex Collidan, Representative LD3, was that the first time that you were face to face with your opponent in this race? Oh, no, it's not even our first debate. We debated in front of a Yavai County GOP. I always appreciate the opportunity to debate my opponents so we can articulate our vision of how to make Arizona elections more secure, more transparent, and more lawful. Yes, all of those things. And our lawsuits moving along, we've been assigned a judge. They have responded, so we're going to have more news on that on Monday. But part of your conversation yesterday with Ms. Swoboda was about Pima County. Can you share with the listeners in case they haven't had a chance to look at that? And by the way, I think you did a great job, just my two cents. Oh, thank you. Look, one of the most telling moments of the debate is when I question Ms. Swoboda about the portion of the Elections Procedures Manual that was written well she worked for Katie Hobbs and that she has been defending even more than Katie Hobbs. And that is the part that until you guys got rid of it over at the Pima County GOP, that was the part of the manual that purported to allow county recorders to exclude. lawful political party observers from early voting locations. And that is a huge problem because it's not just Republicans that believe that observers are the underpinning of all election security. The Carter Center, which is a liberal elections organization, has it as one of its foundational principles as well. So the fact that Ms. Woboda was defending this portion of the manual, even more than Katie Hobbs, who eventually realized when you guys called her out on it that it was totally illegal and forced Adrian Fontes to take it out. The fact that Ms. Woboda was defending that because, as she said in the debate, her stakeholders are the county recorders. Well, I think that draws a very clear contrast between our campaigns because our campaign is voter focused. Our stakeholders are the people of Arizona, and the people of Arizona cannot have confidence in our elections until observers are at every voting location. So I'm very grateful for the work that you folks have done to help restore a little bit of confidence. There's a lot of work to do, but that's why I'm running for Secretary of State.

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And did she continue, because again, I haven't watched the whole thing, did she continue to take the position that what she had been advocating for was still now correct? Well, she goes, well, Collinin eventually changed the law. Well, if you recall, and I'm sure you do recall, no, that was not what happened. I was there. So you go ahead and tell everyone what happened, because sometimes in the retelling, I don't, I go ahead. It's what you have to say is so much more important. It's good to have your confirmation because Gina disagrees with you on what happened, even though you were there and she wasn't. But what happened is that you folks, the Pima GOP, and their attorney went to Katie Hobbs, explained how flagrantly illegal this purported authorization to exclude observers was. And it was actually so illegal that Katie Hobbs agreed that it had to be taken out, forced Adrian Fontes to take it out of the elections procedures manual. It was only after that the Pima County then decided that they were going to do mobile voting units. And then I had a bill to make it clear that it doesn't even matter if you call it a mobile voting unit, but you've got to allow the observers. So that's what happened. And the thing about my opponent is she tries to use technical jargon to convince people that untrue things are true, even against the evidence of their own two eyes. You know, another topic that came out at the debate was her denial of the fact that she endorsed me. Well, the fact of the matter is that... We have her on video endorsing me for Secretary of State. It's on my ex account. So this is somebody who just flagrantly misleads the voters of Arizona, just like Adrian Fontes did, just like Stephen Richard did. And the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter if we have a Democrat or a Republican that is misleading and lying to the voters. Either way, it's unacceptable. I'm not gonna, you know, be happy that somebody with an R next to their name is in that office if they are just as deceptive and false as Mr. Fontes. We need to restore integrity and transparency and lawfulness to that office. And the only person who can do it is someone who actually accepts the facts of reality. Yes, reality is, I can't wait until we get to reality. I have to say that when I was listening, I started to listen to the debate and I had to stop because I had other things to do, but it seems to me that she takes the position that is way more moderate than conservative when it comes to elections. Am I wrong to think that? Well, no, it's not a moderate position. She takes it all. She takes a position to the left of Katie Hobbs on elections, as your experience demonstrates. Yes, okay. The fact that even Katie Hobbs acknowledged that Adrian Fontes has gone way too far, but she went out on a limb to defend Mr. Fontes and Pima County's socialist endorsed recorder. That's also why she said that she opposed my Arizona Secure Elections Act measure that we're hoping to send to the voters.

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because the county recorders, including the Pima County recorder, said that they couldn't administer it. And that is simply not correct. But of course, she goes out on a limb because she is an ally with Mr. Fontes. She's very close to his elections director, Lisa Mara, that he hired. And she is very close, I would imagine, as well to his allies like the Pima County recorder. Certainly she acts like she is because she is constantly carrying water for them. And we do not need a Republican Secretary of State that's carrying water for the same people that Adrian Fontes is. We need a Republican Secretary of State who's going to restore lawfulness and transparency for all voters, regardless of party, be they Democrat, Republican, independent. It doesn't matter. That's what voters deserve. That's what they're going to get with me. And the courts are starting to do that. I just saw a victory for Justin Heap in the last 24, 48 hours. Can you share about that? Well, I've been very proud to be part of the recorder's legal team. And the court has already ruled in his favor. The county asked for stay. The court has denied the county stay. I think the judge is getting a little teed off because one thing courts really don't like is when you try to do an end run around the will of the voters. Voters in Maricopa County put just a heap in that office so that he could clean up our voter rolls. With all the benefits of that office and the Maricopa County supervisors have decided to usurp his ability, his authority. His authority. Thank you. Alex, we've got to take a minute break and we're going to come back. I want to talk more about what's happening in our state and the... How important it is that you have fair and free elections and how we rebuild trust with the voters. We are talking to Alex Collidan, candidate for Secretary of State, who has won a few legal battles against this current Secretary of State and is taking on his opponent, Gina Soboda. Don't go anywhere. You're listening to Win Tucson on 1030 The Voice. You're trusted. local news and talk i'm kathleen win we'll be back welcome back to win tusson with my uh guest and candidate for secretary of state alex caldon currently representing ld3 uh and uh

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I think that there's some great people running to replace you and Joseph Chaplick. And you have somebody's temporarily filling in the seat for Joseph Chaplick. You have a new seatmate. But Alex, you are laser focused on getting elected as the next Secretary of State. I am looking at everything that's happening in Pima County. As you know, the Oversight Project has filed a suit on our behalf because there's still more to go in the EPM. And Adrian Fontes, Chris Mays, Katie Hobbs, like to put roadblocks in for conservatives who vote. As the Secretary of State, where are you on making elections easier for the voter? Are you there? This is done. Yeah. Sorry, go ahead. Can you hear me? Now we can. Yeah. I think what... I think what Adrian Fontes has done with this elections procedures manuals so far beyond the pale. He has attempted to aggrandize the power to himself to... ban protests near polling places on election day. Can you imagine? He's trying to ban protests. Now, he tried to do this two years ago and a panel of judges, all of whom who were appointed by Democrat presidents, by the way, this is not a partisan thing. Panel of judges at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said, you can't do that. It violates the First Amendment. You can't ban protests. But he's tried to do it again. He's trying to ban voters from wearing things that he doesn't like to the polls. Police uniforms is one of the things he doesn't want. He believes that they disenfranchise voters. Can you imagine? You know, your cop, you're working your beat. You may be working a 12-hour shift. What are you supposed to do? Go home and change your clothes, not wear your uniform? It's ridiculous. And state law only gives you a couple of hours where your employer has to let you off in order to vote. So now you're burning that time, going home, changing your clothes. Then you've got to come back to the polls all within your three hours. What you're doing is you're intentionally disenfranchising cops. That's what he's trying to do because he knows that most of our police officers, they vote in a way that he doesn't like. This is a pattern in practice of his. He always tries to scare people away from the polls who vote in a way that he doesn't like. Another thing he's tried to ban is seeing something that you think is wrong at the polls and saying something about it, right? Who are the people who is most likely to say something if they see something they don't think is right at the polls? Well, that would be people who vote in a way that he doesn't like.

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And that is why he continues to try to do this, even though a panel of judges on the Ninth Circuit, all of whom were appointed by presidents of his own political party have already told him that he can't do that. That, to me, is beyond the pale. I'm so sorry you guys had to go back to court, even though the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has already told him he can't do it. He persists to try it again. And the Pima County GOP is out there standing up for the rights of Arizona voters, the First Amendment rights of Arizona voters, which are the most fundamental right of any American citizen. So I'm very grateful for the work that you guys are doing down there. And I would definitely encourage folks get involved. Definitely, you need to get involved. With your county party or whatever group that you like, because county parties are instrumental in sending observers to early voting locations or instrumental in sending people to go work the elections down at the central county place, poll watchers, observers, judges, marshals, all very important roles. performed by the county parties, not to mention voter registration and chasing ballots, because we need to restore confidence in our elections. Pima County's turnout, because of how badly your elections have been run by Pima County's protege, socialist endorsed recorder, you know, your turnout lags behind most of the rest of the state in a pretty serious way. And to me, that shows that there is a crisis of confidence in our democracy that we must fix by restoring lawfulness and transparency to our elections. 100%. And thank you. But I have to say that what we're doing isn't just for Republicans. It's for all voters. Obviously, I have a particular lane that I travel in and I have certain views and they're conservative and they're fiscally conservative. But the right to vote is one of the most important things that we have as citizens. And it's being watered down. currently cleaning the rolls, but they do this every year. I'm still suspect about the voters now coming off because they seem to reappear later on. So our voter numbers are going down. And we are registering more people. I have to say we're continuing to do that. We just had a fair. But people don't trust the system. And as you know, in July... Many Arizonans aren't in the state of Arizona if they can be someplace else. So do we have a plan, Alex, or do you have a plan as someone who's running to get people?

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out to vote, even if they may be on vacation. We, in LD17, and I've asked the chairman of LD17, Joel Strabollah, to share with the other LD chairs down here in Pima County, the plan to get voters who may not live here in the summer to vote because they are still registered to vote in Arizona. So what I'm telling everybody, if you support me as a primary, you want to get involved on the ground, go sign up to chase ballots with turning points. You know, getting somebody to vote who's not a all-the-time voter, you know, who won't crawl over broken glass to vote like you or I, it's a sales job. You've got to sell them on participating in our constitutional republic. And the way that you do that is like any other sales job. You've got to be persistent. So turning point has developed a system where they chase ballots. They come to knock on your door. Have you voted yet? Have you said no? And a couple days later, they come back. Have you voted now? Okay. And they keep coming back. And so it's like the only way to get rid of the pushy salesman is be like, okay, I voted now. All right, good. So that's why I'm encouraging people. especially given the earlier primary day, please sign up with turning point to chase ballots. The other thing about that is it's great practice for chasing ballots in the general election so that when it comes time to restore competent conservative governance to the state, that you're already, you know, trained, practice, and you know how to go get those ballots in because we have to get the turnout up in Pima County. And from my perspective as a partisan candidate, right? One of the things that I really want to see to give us the best possible prospects in the general elections, I want to see Republican turnout go up in FEMA County. I want to see all turn up, go out. But I really want to see GOP turnout go up and understand that the efforts that have been made to screw up our system are in part there to prevent you from voting, to get you so disillusioned that you don't bother to participate in the process. I promise you it is worth our time because Arizona is worth our time. And it's going to take all of us to bring this state back to a place that we love, to restore elections that we can be proud of and that we can be proud to pass down to our children and grandchildren. 100%. So back to where we started, which was your debate last night. Did you come away with any new information about your opponent? Or do you think it's... It's very clear where each of you stands. Yeah, I'm just constantly shocked by the fact that she doesn't even run from her. far left positions. I mean, I guess it shouldn't be a surprise, right? She worked for Katie Hobbs right up through 2020. She donated to Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump in 2016, and she always seems to have the back of Pima County's radical socialist endorsed recorder. So to me, in a Republican primary, most politicians would at least

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try to hide those views. But she didn't, to her credit. And to her credit, she also didn't try to hide her opposition to the SAVE Act, specifically the portion that only allows states to have citizens on their voter rolls, which she claims to be some conservative federalist stand. But here's the thing. The voters of Arizona voted for that in 2004, and it's federal law that's been screwing that up. That's been frustrating the will of Arizona voters, and the Save Act will fix that federal law. Well, and I think that it's important to know what you're voting for and who you're voting for and what they stand for. It is, I think it's very, very important because if you don't know who you're voting for and you go in uneducated, and that's what we're trying to do down here in Pima County is bring in the candidates. I think you're coming this, are you coming down here this weekend? I am. Okay, so tomorrow. I think you're going to be you're going to be two places tomorrow, correct in Pima County? That's right. Can you share with us? Yeah. So I'm speaking to LD18 at 345 North Dodge Road or North Dodge Boulevard at Tucson 9 a.m. And I'm going to be speaking to, I love the names of your groups in Pima County, by the way. Yes, we're very creative. So cool. I was going to say something else. I remember it on the on the radio, but I'm speaking to the north side regulators at noon. Tio Benz on 3682 West Orange Grove Road, also in Tucson, always love the chance to get down in Pima County. And I take pretty much everyone that I get because the people down there, you know, you folks, you need backup. You need backup from the state level to restore transparent and lawful elections in Pima County more than anybody else does in the state. And I feel for you because I hate to see people losing faith in our democracy. And that is what Adrian Fontes and his protege, the Pima County Recorder, and Gina Swoboda and Katie Hobbs have all brought us to as people in Pima County no longer trusting their elections. When I'm Secretary of State, we are going to clean up the elections in Pima County. I love it. So, Alex, I have to take a hard break. Can you stay just one more segment or do you have to go? I'm good either way. You tell me. Sure, I can say one more. I love it. Okay, we're talking to Alex Colleton, running for Secretary of State, trying to help Pima County. He's a big fan of ours. We like that. We're going to host him on the 28th, but we're going to be back right after this. You are listening to 1030 The Voice. Your trusted local news and talk on this Bustos Media Station. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to Win Tucson with candidate for Secretary of State, Alex Calden, lawyer, state legislator currently in LD3. And Alex, we have a question from Lori Moore, who's called in. So Lori let Alex know about the recent meeting and what is happening with the Pima County Board of Supervisors and our recorder, Gabrielle Casares Kelly. And welcome. Hi. Hi, can you hear me? Yes, we can. I can hear you. Okay. Hi. Yeah, Steve Chris Christie had a round of questions for her at the last board meeting, and Jen Allen tried to shut Supervisor Chris Christie down by requesting he submit his questions in writing. So I'm guessing so it wouldn't be on video. I thought that was clever. But he asked her how many specifically observers are at this mobile unit. And she kind of gave this Hemmin and Holland roundabout answer, but finally she said two. And he said, is that two every hour, every day, every week? What is it? And she said, no, it's when they show up. So there are days he got her to say when there are no observers there. So that's number one. I'd like to see that shut down immediately. The other thing she said, which she made it sound like it was such a great thing to save time and be a real plus for voters, is that they are not checking voter signatures, verification of signatures anymore. And I thought, well, that's a level of protection. I want that still in there. So definitely things like that. She's on the record for saying it. So if you get a chance to watch the video where she's talking and he's questioning her, those are biggies. Okay. So Alex, what do you? Wow. Yeah. We are never at a shortage for things that we shouldn't be doing for our elections. But what's nice is we actually tell people that we're doing the things that we shouldn't be doing. And we have it on tape and audio because in case someone thinks that Pima County is not part of Arizona. I sometimes think that people think that they can do that. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I just get so.

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Go ahead. I'd say Pima County is running its elections and more of a style south of the border, but the fact of the matter is that Mexico runs its elections a lot better than Pima County does. That's unfair to Mexico. The only excuse for not checking signatures is if they're check-it ID, and I doubt they're doing that. And in terms of the observers, Go ahead, Lori. Oh, no, that was another thing, Alex, because she made it sound like she kept saying, we're checking voter ID, voter ID, voter ID, like it was a great thing. But my question, after I got to do my little two-minute rant to call to the public, I said, clarify for me, I have a question. I understand that there are many different forms of ID and that all of them do not guarantee citizenship. So you can have an idea and not be a citizen. Do you have to be a U.S. citizen to vote in this upcoming election? Because I know they changed something with Arizona in the time period that people got here. I don't know if they gave them grace. I don't know what they did. But it seems like I want that citizenship question answered. They can all get a driver's license. But is there something that designates on that driver's license that, yeah, you can drive, but you can't vote? Well, the driver's license is supposed to have a behind-the-scenes check for a U.S. citizenship. The system is not working as well as it should right now. But the part where there is really no check for U.S. citizenship is for federal-only voters. In fact, Adrian Fontes went out and said, oh, you can use your social security number to prove your citizenship, even though you don't have to be a citizen to vote one, to get one. I want to emphasize. that this is why it's so important is so so important to sign up to observe at early in-person vote centers for the Pima County GOP because if you're not there to have your eyes on the process They can say they check somebody's ID, but you don't actually have to have the voter physically present to tap on the screen that you check their ID. You don't have to scan anything. You can just say, oh, I check their ID. You know, print out that ballot, put it in the box. Not saying that the esteemed Pima County Elections Department would do any such thing, but it's technically possible. And the only thing that gives... me any reassurance about that part of the process would be having Pima County GOP observers there. So if we want to reinforce that confidence that shenanigans are not happening at these early in-person vote centers or these mobile voting units, we absolutely have to have enough volunteers for the PMA GOP that are willing to ride the bus, so to speak, and be at those polling locations at all times. Because, you know, a gap of an hour, or we don't have somebody there as an hour, things could happen. And I want to go to bed at night and sleep soundly on election night, knowing that we had Pima County, GOP observers at every single polling location in Pima County for both the primary and the general. So bringing up polling places, you know that they canceled a bunch of polling places in Green Valley and haven't replaced them yet.

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Not surprising. You know, Adrian Fontes started this trend of canceling polling places in places where he thought the voters didn't agree with him because he wants to make it harder for those voters to vote. Amen. I mean, and Pima County recorder is his protege. She's doing the same thing. She doesn't want you to have easy access to the polls. She wants you to not vote unless you're willing to crawl over broken glass in order to vote, right? She wants her people to vote. She wants the people that are going to vote the way that she thinks is right to vote, but she doesn't want you to vote. And so you're going to have to double your efforts. Don't just let her take your voice away by making it more inconvenient. Now, force her to listen to your voice by doing whatever it takes to cast a ballot. And people always ask me, Alex, what's the best way to vote? I go, well, number one, the best way to ask that question. So please, it's perfect. Read my mind. The best way to vote is the way that you're going to be absolutely sure that you're going to vote. Okay, because if you vote in the theoretically best way, but then, you know, for whatever reason you don't get around to it or you can't do it, well, then it's guaranteed that you've got no vote. Okay, now I vote in person on Election Day because, you know, look, I've been an election lawyer for almost 15 years, and, you know, in my little, you know, head, you know, that is the, that is the cleanest way to cast a ballot. So, but I voted in person on Election Day in every election for the past, you know, 15 years, pretty much. So, so that's fine. I know I'm going to vote that way. But if you're not absolutely positive that there's no disaster that could derail you from voting. on election day, then go vote early in person. And if that's too inconvenient, then vote by mail. But just make sure that you vote in one way or the other. Do not let Gabriella Garcia-Kelly take your voice away. I love it. Lori, anything else? No, that's it. I just want to know if knowing that, that there are no observers, can that unit be shut down now? No, it can be if they are refusing observers, right, but not if we're not supplying an adequate number of observers. And by we, I mean, PMA County GOP is not supplying an adequate number of observers. And I suspect that, and I could be wrong, you can correct me, Chairwoman Wynn, I suspect that there are not quite enough volunteers yet. We need a few more volunteers to step up. We had, well, we had, the first time they used the mobile voting center. They used it in four different places. The list didn't get out. People were confused. People showed up in the locations that they announced days after or before because it was so haphazard. But we did have, Lori, you know Marlene, who's LD17. She was an observer, but the day that she went to observe on the mobile voting. booth, it wasn't working. The machines in the mobile voting center weren't working, so they were just gathering ballots in boxes in front of the mobile voting center. So essentially...

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Oh, you can't make this up. So it's a circus. Lori, I do have a question. When Jen Allen tried to stop a fellow supervisor from asking questions, did he object? I hope Steve objected. Yes, in a very dignified way. He says, you know, Chairman Allen, I only have a few more questions. I'll be done in the second. And she persist. I think she said it twice. Like, can you submit these in writing so we don't have to hold Gabriella up? And he's like, I just have a few more questions. I'll be done. And I am so glad. So it's on video now. So everybody should watch that. Yeah. It's like nothing to see here, but there's everything to see here. And Alex, it goes to your point. that we have, your opponent totally supports what she's doing, the county recorder, and whatever she can get away with, and you will follow the law. And very, very different. And Adrian Fontes has made her his mouthpiece in Southern Arizona. I mean, if they lose Pima County, they really lose the state. Because everywhere else there's a huge voting advantage. Our goal is to keep it close. And the only way we do that is if we turn out, because they're not turning out either. The Democrats aren't excited about their candidates. So we can actually take advantage of their discombobolation, if you will, right now in their party. I mean, it is a mess. Go ahead. 100%. I would even go a step further. I'd say if we lose Pima County by 10 points. We win. Okay? You know, I, I, I, Talk to people down in Pima County. They go, well, it's a blue county and they got blue state representatives. My vote doesn't matter. You know, a vote from Pima County and a statewide election matters every but as much as a vote from Mojave County or a vote from Maricopa County or a vote from Coconino County or vote for any other county. It's a statewide election. You don't get bonus points based on where the vote comes from. And so I want to tell people in Pima County, your vote has never. been more important than it is this election. Pima County is the key to winning this election for conservative candidates in the primary and for Republican candidates in the general election to restore confidence in our elections. And we got to get ready for 2028. Arizona is going to be one of the most important states in the country in a 28 presidential election. And this election for Secretary of State is the election that's going to decide whether we have free and fair elections that voters can have... confidence in this state for the 2028 presidential election because the secretary state is the chief elections officer

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And so I need Pima County to step up in a way Pima County has never stepped up before because I know you guys are used to be in second fiddle in our state's politics, especially Pima County Republicans. I'm here to tell you that this time around you're the most important county in America. And I really need you to volunteer for Pima County, GOP, to be observers for those mobile voting units. I mean, just the name tells you how bad it could be. If you're not there to watch, I need you to step up to chase ballots in Pima County. I need you to get all your friends and neighbors to the polls. In the primary, too, right? In the primary, too, we want to have complete confidence in our primary election, right? We don't want the Dems to get their favorite Republicans in the primary. We want people to have complete confidence in the primary. So you need to sign up to observe with the Pima County GOP, and you need to sign up to chase those ballots with Turning Point or any other organization that catches your fancy. And if you do that, we're going to win. We're going to take back this day and we're going to restore it something you are going to be proud of. I love it. Alex, if people want to reach you, where is the best place to find your information? And I could go to my website, www.w.A-Z.com, A-L-E-X-F-O-R-A-Z.com. Please, if you're at all financially able, donate, my opponent, Adrian Fontes, has millions of dollars in Democratic dark money backing him. I have grassroots support. So whatever you give, I promise you we're going to spend it a lot more efficiently than Mr. Fonte's, and we're going to win this race. I love it. Lori, any last questions since you're the grassroots? about Alex. He's a gift to Arizona. I'll do anything to get him elected. There you go, Alex. And Lori, if Lori Moore says that you can count on it. She's there. And obviously she's at the meetings. She's listening to what they're trying to do. Unfortunately, I look at the Maricopa County supervisors and they sound just like the Pima County supervisors. And yet. You've got the exact opposite. We've got one Republican and four Democrats. You allegedly have four Republicans and one Democrat up there, but they are both trying to interfere with the elections. I'm glad that you're winning with your county recorder. We just have to be able to hold our county recorder to account for the laws in Arizona. And I know that you are constantly doing that. One last thing, Alex, before I let you go, I'm so sorry. This ballot measure that's going to be in the general election, can you just take a moment and explain what that is and why it's so important? Sure. So my HCR 2001 is going to be something that I want to send to the voters for this general election. It's waiting final votes to the House and Senate. It's going to make our election results faster. It's going to require government issue ID for all ballots cast, which I think is so important. And it's going to reaffirm our state's commitment to citizenship-only voting and ban foreign money from our elections, which is going to piss off Adrian Fontes very much.

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since some of his money comes in through the Arabella Network, which is funded in part by a foreign billionaire. So if you want to get that through, start us on the path of cleaning up our state's elections. The way Florida cleaned up theirs, I highly encourage you to vote for that. We're going to call it the Faster Act, I believe, and I'm very confident it's going to be on your ballot. Wonderful. And Alex, you're welcome here anytime. Keep up the great work. We will see you tomorrow here in Southern Arizona. You are working very hard and LD18 and then separately the Northwest Republicans, whatever. I don't even know what group that is, but I know it's on Orange Grove and I'll give that information out before we get off the air today. And Lori, thank you for calling in. Always appreciate your input. Thanks. Bye, guys. Okay. We're going to take it. Thanks for having me. Thank you. We're going to take a quick break. Come back and finish up this hour. And then we're going to talk to Jared Knott about what's happening that just happened in China and get his assessment of how did President Trump do. So don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. Oh, so much going on. But I just wanted to take a moment since this is my show. And I have a family, as you have all heard many times. And 35 years ago today, I was giving birth. I know it sounds like I say that a lot. I have a lot of kids. But this is my youngest daughter. She now lives in Virginia. She is married. And she's my only child that hasn't had any children yet. She promises that she is committed to that, so we shall see. Her name is Paige, and she is pretty funny and original and her own independent way of thinking. And I am just thrilled that I've been blessed with seven kids.

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When Paige, how do I say this? So when Paige was growing up, she really just saw things very clearly. She still does. And I am so grateful that I get to be her mom. and her husband Ian, and she is just, she's just exceptional in terms of what she does. She's creative, she's inventive, she's an artist, but she also does technology work. So always doing... wonderful things for her community and is just a good-hearted person. And so happy birthday. I will send her this to my daughter page. I tried to get her to call in and she just said that she wasn't going to do that because my kids know that when I do this, it's kind of my thing. But they're all coming home in July because we have a big birthday that's coming up for my husband. And so... I will look forward to seeing everyone then. But happy birthday, Paige, Savino, her married name. And I am very, very proud of you and everything that you do. On Mother's Day, she sent me a tape from Matt Damon that was hysterically funny. And she's got this quirky, wonderful, weird sense of humor. When everything gets serious and significant, it is always this child that steps outside of it and makes me laugh. And we all need to take time to do that. There is so much going on with these elections. And I am just a little disheartened and disappointed that when a candidate looks or feels like they're behind in their race, that then instead of looking to see what they can do, what they can say about who they are, we've got this standard operating procedure of attacking our opponents. And in the last few days, there's been claims made, and I'm not going to say which campaigns, several different ones about their opponent. So instead of saying, here's why I'm good at what I'm doing, here's why I'm the best candidate, outrageous claims have been made. And they're not true. I do my research. I find things out. And what you're doing is you're harming the party. And so if... If you have a legitimate, serious claim against somebody, and especially somebody who's run many times, and now all of a sudden we're allegedly finding something out that happened allegedly 30, 40 years ago, you've got nothing. It's absurd.

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And if you think you have something, you are doing damage to yourself. You're not credible as a candidate. And you shouldn't do that. And even if you're doing it through surrogates, I always look to see when someone's trying to hurt somebody who benefits from it. And there's outrageous claims being made about people leaving a meeting and have disrespectful. All that nonsense. It's just noise. What we want to know is, are the people running going to serve us? Are they going to do the job? Aren't you tired of having people that get elected over and over and over again? And they don't do the job. I know I am. And so I'm really asking, the party, and everybody who's running for office to raise the level of rhetoric, if you will, raise what you're talking about. So important that you get your thoughts out there. One of the things I'm just so enjoying about California right now in their races. is that people are fed up. And if you think that what's going on in California isn't happening here in Tucson, you are not paying attention. And what I love about Spencer Pratt right now is he's got the same kind of numbers that we have here in Pima County. But he is resonating with the voters. And he's taking on his opponents in a way with factual data. Karen Bass let L.A. burn down. She has not managed that city well. She talks in word salad when she's explaining the job that she's done. And I believe that we can do better. I think we have to defend Rio Nuevo and hopefully the legislature does the right thing. There are so many things that really matter to this community and we're never going to get there if what we decide to do is throw mud at each other. I am, you know, you can't stop people from being idiots. But if you do that, and if you are a candidate that thinks it's your job to disparage and diminish your opponent, you don't have a game. All you have is being a bully. And I really, quite frankly, don't want to elect bullies into our elected, high elected offices in this state. We've watched that. We've watched Chris Mays sue the president 41, 42 times. We've watched Adrian Fontes. I'm suing him again right now. We're going to have updates on Monday. It's been assigned to a federal judge. We are trying to protect the rights of your vote. Help me turn out the vote instead of... disengaging voters because they don't understand why grown adults act like seventh graders it's just enough um i saw i got and on this i i i'm hoping for us to take the high road and demonstrate leadership no matter what race you're running for uh it it'll be so much better uh but if you can't do that

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You're not contributing to the party. You're contributing to your ego to whatever sense of power you think you have. And ultimately, God's got the most power. So I pray that you stop doing that. But if you can't, because you think what you have to say to hurt someone else is the most important thing. then God bless you. All right. When we come back, we're going to talk about President Trump's recent visit to China with Jared Nott. You're listening to Win Tucson here on 1030 The Voice. We'll be back right after this. Thank you. Welcome back to Wind Tucson, and we are talking to Jared Knott, one of my favorite people to talk to. And Jared, tell people the name of your book because for some reason I can't get your thing to show up. So the tiny blunders and everything. Would you, do you mind sharing the title? Yeah, please. Sorry. Right. And the first one was tiny blunders. Big Disasters, 39 tiny mistakes that changed the world forever. The second book was simpler was Tiny Blunders Big Disasters. Book two, the many tiny mistakes that changed the world forever. If you go to the website, Tinybunders, Big Disasters.com. It's all right there in front of you. It's really easy to see there because the pickers from rolling out there and everything. But we have a fun place to visit. I can say it's like a Disney World. for history buffs. We have a portrait gallery with 27 personalities with a little bit of dirt on each one. I'm half kidding. We have four three chapters. Also, there's three Instagram reels. We have a John Wayne reel. We have an Elon Musk reel, and we have a Watergate reel, and we have a book trailer and a fun quiz and so on, so on. So it's a fun place to visit. I love it. And the president, our president. Just spent three days in China, was Xi Jinping, head of the CCP. And I wanted to get your assessment about what you think happened. Was it good for America? Was it, you know, good for our country? And maybe we don't know yet. But what is your take on what just happened? Yes, apparently there's a lot of business deals coming out of it. There's 200 and 250-some-od Boeing jets. Of course, that's the number that's flashed out there. We'll see how many of actually get to order and actually ship. Yes. Maybe several hundred more beyond that. Other business deals that are personally taking place, those two countries. Doing business together is nothing but good. Now, in terms of, they kind of draw a line, business is great. All the CEOs there are coming there and try to grow the business in China. Terrific thing, a good thing. Of course, they draw a big, bright red line to step across the line. What about Iran? And Iran, I don't think that China has done much or is going to do much to bring Iran under control. Of course, now they're suffering a little bit themselves.

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from the oil not coming through, but they want to be deviled the United States. They don't want to become second-place nation versus the United States of trying to sometimes pull us back a little bit here and there, so that's not particularly encouraging. So it's kind of a mixed bag. But overall, I would say it's a positive thing for both the Chinese people and the American people. And I think the stock market agrees with you. Obviously, the executives from Boeing agree. Was it smart of Trump to take who he took? Tim Cook, Elon Musk. I'm trying to think of the third guy that I forgot now. There to... There's been a concern about the president's policies and how they're adversely affecting Americans. Obviously, the most where people, everyday average people seat is at the gas pump. So do you think that that's going to fix what their meeting is going to solve that quickly? No, it's not going to solve the problem at the gas pump. We're going to have to resolve the war in Iran favorably, and it may mean it's a tough, tough nut to crack. It may mean stepped up military action. In fact, I think it will mean stepped up military action. And to finally solve the problem, and I hate to even say the words, maybe that means boots on the ground, which boots on the ground means heavy casualties. I hate to even think about that. It's sort of like a problem without a solution here. They're not going to be giving up a nuclear program of the nuclear dust. It's going to have maybe a gigantic raid where the United States goes in there and forcibly either takes it or this one talk about putting a toxic material down where it's located, so one could ever approach it for 100 years or something like that. It may take some kind of very dramatic action like that. Now, the other question, kind of paralleling that. What about regime change? Whether if it's a boat, 85% of the people would have, I would have a different regime, but that's 15% with the guns. They're still in charge. So that's a tough, tough, tough, not to crack. But if it would be lucky, we can get the nuclear dust away from them. And lucky further if they will open up the Straits of Hamo's, which is a troublesome thing, all those 60, the mosquito fleet of 60-some-oddots to have, plus also the drones to have, plus also. still have a number of missiles. That's going to be a tough also. So we've got some big problems there, and I don't know, I wish I could say I know the answer, but I do not. Yeah, and I guess we're going to have to see how they play out. The military has not withdrawn from that area, and you served in the military, I think, during the Vietnam era, I remember my Jared Knott history. And so, you know, I think that

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We have a wonderful, powerful military. The people that are, the 15%, I think it may even be smaller, that are trying to maintain control, whoever they send up as a leader ends up dead. Do you believe that the Ayatollah's son is still around and really trying to be the leader, or is it really the military there that is running Iran at this point? Yeah, I think the artillery junior is still alive, I think he's missing one leg, had badly burned to face and lips and so on and so forth. I'm not sure he is in control at all. I think it's the military that is running things, and they're a fanatical group. And they may have been a mistake to kill so many of their leaders because they say that farther down you go, the more fanatical they get. And so if you killed even five or ten more, I don't think that would do us any good. And there's definitely like a million people. at arms, the police departments, plus the military, a million armed men, many of them are very, very fanatical. And it's not like Venezuela, where once you arrested Maduro and his wife, the people of Venezuela were very happy that they're gone. And the remaining officials there were happy to switch over and stay in power and just cooperate with the United States and everybody's happy. Well, they're basically rational. and that but you have and even north korea and chinese leaders are rational but the people in iranus discussed before are not entirely irrational they expect that they're going to die and go to heaven and they'll have 40 virgins or 60, 70 versions or however many. How many virgins they can get at this point. Yes, yes. And so it's kind of nutty. And so willing to die and look for a comparison. Yeah, the regard for life on this planet is so totally different than ours. It is, they're not even, because they do have that belief system. So I heard you mention the Strait of Hermuse standoff is really nearing its tipping point. Do you agree? Well, I hope so. Now, it may have to be dramatic action, dramatic military action to be able to reverse the situation. And that sounds like an invasion or a major, major raid. It's tough enough to crack. We have some very brilliant people who have an excellent military, but it's not a problem with an easy solution. So I hope that President Reagan came, President Trump, he makes sense and the others. have come up with a plan that's going to work. It looks like it's going to be bloodying and hopefully there's a very few of any American casualties. But it's a tough one. It's going to be a very tough one.

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Well, and you've got a lot of people over there that are, I think our military has been very straightforward about what they're doing and very transparent. I think we didn't want this to last this long. We may be underestimated. Iran, I think that I don't know if Xi Jinping and President Trump talked about it. If they did, it was very minimal. And, you know, and I think he held those cards pretty close, right? Xi Jinping says China won't give Iran weapons, but... Who's just, you know, how much money do you want to put on that? So, yeah, they've lied before. Yeah, China's lied. Are you serious? I'm just kidding. And the Iranians, and the Iranians tell a couple of philps, too, you know, and the course of things. But no, I think weapons have been coming into the Caspian Sea, they say. Yes. There's also a railway connection. So, yes, they're giving them weapons. They're giving them intelligence. And they're not, they could probably stop it immediately if they were, if they put pressure on Iran to do so. But I don't think you're willing to. Well, we'll see what happens. Jared, we have to take a really quick break and we'll come back. Can I, you're going to stay with me some more? Absolutely. Okay, wonderful. We're talking to Jared Nott about what's happening or the aftermath of the meeting between President Trump and Xi Jinping. We'll be back right after this on Wynn-Tusan on 1030, The Voice. You're trusted local news and talk. Welcome back to Wind Tucson. We are talking to Jared Knott. Jarrett is a decorated combat infantry officer from Vietnam, and he served in the First Air Calvary Division. In his civilian career, he served as the vice president of sales and marketing and a marketing director in a home improvement industry. But most importantly, he's a husband and a father of five. And I'm going to assume at this point you have grandchildren. Yes, we do. We have four grandchildren, and we had our twins. My last name is not, and my twins are the double knots. Anyway, they're 26 years old, and they both have serious boyfriends. We're not married yet, although that's, I think, we hope, in the pipeline, and we also hope that there will be some more grandchildren coming behind them, so maybe the four will go to 6, 8, 10, who knows. I love that. So today is my youngest daughter's birthday. We have seven kids. And Paige has not had children. So I've got 19 grandkids, but Paige is wanting to. But I tell people I'm going for 20. But her husband has twins that run in his family. So secretly, I'm going for 21 grandchildren. So everything's a math problem, right? Jared.

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As we look at what's happening in Iran, I think the focus now that the president has gotten home safely or on his way to be safe at home, we're going to look to see. I think this president doesn't want to be there, and he's going to do whatever he needs to do strategically. Even, like you said right before the break, even if that means ramping up the military. Have we been effective so far with our military operations with the drones and I think that I think the United States has? done everything that they can do not that they can't do more militarily but they're going to have to amp it up if they want to get in and get out of there and then the question becomes who takes over and if you do what you're doing and you don't replace the regime they'll just rebuild and they'll rebuild the stuff that they've been demanding and the sticking point is the nuclear weapons as we all know Does, do you have to take them over in order to not have that happen? I mean, is that, it seems to me that's where we're headed. Well, as I said before, the worst possible nightwear that you could possibly have in that situation would be that the Iranians have enough nuclear fissional material to make 10 or 11 warheads. Take those warheads, put them on their missiles. First of all, they blow up Tel Aviv, and maybe they blew up Rome and Paris and London, all over in the range of those missiles. That would be an unspeakable nightmare. And reasonable people, you can even count them. North Koreans and the Chinese and that they're reasonable and they're evil and they've killed many people, many people, but they're not delusional. But the people in Iran are perfectly willing to die. They're perfectly willing to die for their cause and take a whole war with them if they can. So they cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. They're just too unstable, too irrational, too fanatical. So that being said, now it's two general options. a massive invasion where we take over the country and replace the entire regime, a more limited operation where they go into where the nuclear visual materials located and they either neutralize it or they pick it up and take it out, which maybe what they were doing, that is a big, big thing, big military operation. Of course, we could possibly put in tanks that we could possibly put in other kinds of heavy equipment, a huge amount of air power would be involved, et cetera. And that would be a nice, a bloody thing. It would not be something that would be done with no casualties. There would be heavy casualties maybe on both sides, which is just a horrible thing to talk about. And I'm sure those things have been debated in great detail there in the Pentagon and the White House. And they're not going to do nothing. President Trump is not going to say we're going to do nothing. There's something that happened. Hopefully it's going to be big, bold, successful. A coup in three days, the situation is solved.

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Hopefully it's not going to drag out for days or for weeks. But there's something in the pipeline, and I don't know what it is, but I hope and pray it's successful. 100%. I think we all do. You know, and unfortunately everything is political, right? And so as we look to approach the midterms, I do have to say I think that because the Democrats only stand for hating Trump and they don't seem to be offering any solutions. And in the blue cities, their policies are failing miserably. I think that if we can turn this around and actually have people experience the economy, there are those that think that maybe President Trump shouldn't have done what he's done because it's easy to be an armchair quarterback, as you know. But I think this can be concluded, you know, by the end of June, you know, I hate kicking the can out there, but sooner than later. I believe that we can start to heal and then do what we need to do to reign in prices. I was most encouraged by what the president said about that the farmers were going to be happy. Are you aware of what trends? So can you explain that to the listeners? Well, yes. Now, the Chinese needs soybeans. Of course, American farmers grow millions and millions of pounds of soybeans, and they've been suffering recently. So hopefully what that means is that a deal has been worked out, where the tariffs have been lifted or the arrangement made, and there would be a huge amount of purchases made of American farm products. That would be very valuable and very important. The war is over, when the war is over. Of course, gasoline prices will begin to drop up pretty significantly. It turns out the gerrymandering conflicts between the Democrats and Republicans are being resolved in the favor of Republicans, which is kind of a, we've got kind of fortunate there. So it went down in direction of the Supreme Court of Virginia and other rulings are saying for years Democrats have gerrymandered and gotten away with it. kind of the litmus test of whether it's unfair or not. You look at the percentage of people in a particular state like Massachusetts, Massachusetts, what percent of them are voting Republicans? I think 42, 43 percent or something like that. There are nine representatives. How many of the Republicans? One, well, that's obviously out of balance. Whatever, in some states have zero Republicans. Okay, well, that's, I mean, they're just blatantly. unfair and there's not just not follow the proportion of the Democrat public vote. So that's a, that gives us a fighting chance of winning the House of Representatives. That's going to be a tough challenge. We have a fighting chance that we can get the war over by June. Gasoline prices are starting to come down. The other policies, by the way, are working quite well. The trillions of dollars with a T being invested throughout the United States and building new factories.

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which creates jobs, and then people be employed to work in those factories, which, of course, creates new jobs. The booming economy, strong economy, underneath the problems with what's happening with the oil prices and with Iran. So if we can get it resolved, if it can be solved, then we have a good fighting chance of holding the House representatives as well as the Senate, and we would go on from there. 100% and I think you'll see that the Democrats who started the whole redistricting mess haven't yielded from it what they wanted and so I'm hearing as many as 13 or 14 more Republican seats than there were based on the undoing of that and so if that happens again we have to make a case it'll be interesting to see what happens in the primary in California who are because they have ranked choice voting now something else that they probably wish they didn't have. So it's interesting when you do something for a moment, and it kind of goes with your book titles, but there's a long-term effect to it sometimes. Yes, yeah. And it's... Care what you wish for sometimes, yes. Exactly. And so I think that we're seeing... that whatever whenever they got ranked choice voting it was a good thing for them for a while but now it you know with Eric Swalwell being kind of forced to the sidelines and he was the front rudder so now right so i think it's interesting to see and and Spencer Pratt is my new hero this week i am so impressed but i i am he's he's fighting back intellectually with humor But he's getting his point across. And he's hitting younger voters. And the older voters, you know, love it too. But he's really, he's talking to a younger generation in a way that they, you know, unfortunately good or bad, the way that they get their news is social media. And he's right where he needs to be. We need to teach that someplace. Yes, and of course, Karen Bass does not want to debate him again. She got her nose-blooded pretty badly in the first debate. The situation is absolutely ridiculous. The Golden State used to be the place that everybody wanted to live is leading the nation, leading to the world in many ways. They had these horrible situations out there, $250 billion with a B spent on the fast-speed rail in the first mile of it. has not been built and they don't know where the money went i mean just what a disaster is that right you got the situation in Los Angeles, just a very limited number of permits issued, very limited number of houses were built, all tangled up in a bureaucratic mess. They've got to lead the nation of people leaving the state. They lead the nation in unemployment. They lead the nation in homelessness. You compare it to what it was 40 or 50 years ago, back when Ronald Reagan was governor and other governors, it was a gorgeous state beautifully managed going the right direction. Now it's just an absolute disaster.

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In contrast, the governor, you go to Florida and you run Ron DeSantis and you can compare the success that he has had very well managed, very well organized, versus the disaster that the hair gel is put together up there, Gavin Newsom, is just a stark contrast. And on that general subject, the Democrats do not have good candidates. No. The candidates have all failed. Jared? Gavin Newsom, go ahead. I have a hard news break right now. Can you hold over just a little bit longer? I want to finish this conversation. Can you, or no? Be happy to, yes, sir. Okay, good, thank you. Yes, yes. Okay, we are talking to Jared Knott on 1030, The Voice, your trusted local news and talk. We'll be back right after this news break. Don't go anywhere because this is the kind of stuff you love to hear. We'll be back. Welcome back to Win Tucson with my very special guest, Jared Knott. We were talking about California politics, and we had a hard news break, so please continue, sir. I love what you have to say. Thank you very much. I was just ramming around to the point that we're making, the voters are having to look at the situation of choosing between socialism on one hand. and free enterprise on the other, which one is most successful, which one provides the best standard of living and best protections for the voters in the United States and throughout the world. Well, right in front of us, we had the experiment there in New York with a very photogenic and articulate Zohran Mamdani, and so far his administration is stumbling badly. Kathy Hochul, of course, kind of summarized that she was about a month ago she was saying. that the tax base had eroded that a lot of wealthy people had packed up and left and went to my Emmy Beach where the taxes are much, much lower. They don't even have state income tax there at all. If you wanted them to please come back, against their own interest, please come back. They've left in the first place because of the high taxes. Well, please come back because of the high taxes. We need that money to pay for these social programs, social welfare programs. And you're not getting the message. That's why they left in the first place. Yeah, we need you to come back so you can pay for our social programs that don't work and we illegally fund money into our NGOs. It's ridiculous. It's so funny you brought up billionaires because Spencer Pratt's newest ad today says, I'm not a billionaire. I'm not funded by billionaires. I'm funded by the grassroots. I mean, but if you're someone who doesn't like billionaires... You should, and I think they've deemed, you know, if you make money or you're successful, they don't want to, they don't want to have anything to do with you. Yet, it's absurd. It is just absurd. But I thought how brilliant he's taking their narrative and making him be their guy. It's brilliant. I think it's brilliant. Yeah, the thing was, of course, the socialist is the famous quote from Margaret Thatcher, that the problem of socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Well, there's one study that said that 48,000 people, in New York, there's like 7 million people, something like that. 48,000 people in New York City pay for almost 50% of the tax, the community's number. It's a fraction of 1% paying for almost 50% of the income coming in. Well, those people were getting taxed to death.

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And they decided, let's go someplace where taxes are lower. And so there were Texas, which has no income tax, Florida, and so on. And so their base has deteriorated seriously. They have a $5.2 billion with a B deficit in New York City. They have also a big deal to say it with New York State. But what they're doing is driving away the people that create jobs. people that pay taxes, the businesses are leaving, the people are leaving, driving the economy off the edge of the cliff. It's their whole system. Let's take the money away from the rich people. It's very harmful. You know, think about this, a billion, take your $10 billion. You're sitting on the table. Well, you could put that in a federal government, or you can put that into work in with a free enterprise. Money doesn't just sit there. If it's Bill Gates's money, if it's Faiso's money, if it's Elon Musk's money, they take that money, they build new factories, make new developments that way. They have new technology that they innovate, and they hire people. People working for those billionaires have very high income. I think the $350,000, one of the countries, $150,000, or the company's $250,000, some a lot of high-paying jobs. Right. come out from these big enterprises that these gentlemen innovate. And the obvious example is Elon Musk. He's his genius to create all kinds of new products and all kinds of new jobs and new companies. Well, okay, we can't have a billionaires anymore. Well, okay, all those jobs disappear, all those companies disappear, all this innovation disappears over in Europe. It used to be 15, 16 years ago, Europe was about the same size of its economy as the United States. Now the United States is double the size. of the European economy. They don't have any high technology companies. And the CEO of Siemens was talking about how the regulations are so tight and so it's a strangulation kind of a system that it's very, very difficult to start a new company. And if it does start and become successful, they tax the hell out of it, they regulate the heck out of it. Right. And you strangle it to death. So the socialism of Western Europe has failed miserably. The socialism in New York City is failing miserably. and also the socialism in Cuba and Venezuela, failing miserably. Yeah, and Cuba and Venezuela is its own conversation in a second. I wanted in that theme, though, what we're talking about, you know, billionaire hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin is, you know, facing mounting pressure from the mayor, Zohran Mamdani, Zohran Mamdani. And this is, he's targeting ultra luxury second homes. And, you know, so Griffith's got a $238 million penthouse in Manhattan. And the tax is aimed at non-residents whose properties sit mostly empty. But billionaire Ken Griffin left Chicago, not New York, to move to Miami. And that negatively affected Chicago.

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It put financial, you know, his financial presence leaving, eroded Chicago's financial welfare. And I don't understand, you know, Kathy Hochul is saying what she's saying, and then you've got the mayor attacking this guy who creates jobs. I don't understand how they are just tone deaf to what they're doing. I mean. And the conflict is escalating, right? Go ahead. No. Socialism has always been an easy sell. Vote for me, and I will send you government checks. Again, we'll take the money away for the billionaires and give it to you, and that's an easy sale. That people can hold it. I can relate to that. That's tax the rich even more. Well, of course, first of all, they're very heavily taxed to begin with, like the $48,000 of paying for 50% of New York to begin with. And if you tax them either more, they pack it when they leave. And you see, you have this spiral there of a... businesses leaving and employees services go down and citizen services are deteriorate and then it gets worse and worse and they just go and people leave and the taxes get higher for the people that stay there and they don't have but the desert just fails a one on top of the other it just simply doesn't work and socialism has never worked any place that has been tried and they it's a fantasy and Wall Street Journal put it very well they said people who think socialism can be successful, apparently missed the last century. And it's been proven over and over again. It just doesn't work. And Zohran Mamdani's in the process, and Governor Hogle in the process of proving it all over again, that it discourages private initiative. It discourages new businesses being created. It discourages the growth in the economy. It strangles it to death, and it ends up like Cuba. It ends up like Venezuela. It ends up like New York State and New York City, et cetera. etc. All the blue states losing people and the red states gaining people. 100%. I mean, we've seen it here in Arizona from California, and I'd be happy to have people go back to California under new leadership. And I think you make such a valid point that socialism hasn't worked. And the only way that it worked even over the last four years that it didn't fall apart sooner, And now there's no cash flow for COVID or illegal immigrants, all the monies that got funded to NGOs. And now we are, they're making a concerted effort to expose the fraud. And without the fraudulent money or, you know, the places in California that were hospice care and no one was dying. But the money was coming in, you know, so if you went, it was a sure way to live if you went into a hospice care in California or the learning centers or whatever they call them.

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Lairing centers. Lairing centers, no end, in Minnesota. But that fraud, if you go to a blue city, and I live in one, if you go to a blue city, you will be able to track millions of dollars of fraudulent cash flow that has flowed through the cities to... organizations that have no work product that they can't really show what they've done with the money can the Trump administration expose all that I think they're trying they're they're making arrests there I know that the DOJ is here in Arizona to do the same kind of thing that's being done in California here in Arizona do they do they have enough runway to get it all done I think so. Of course, California, of course, not only that, of course, the daycare centers with no children. They would go there and not going to, yes, we wanted to enroll our children in the daycare center here. Oh, get out of here. There's even a million of dollars in subsidy, and there's no children, and there's no hospice care. And by the way, the Somalis were heavily involved into their eyeballs in that whole thing in California as well as in Minnesota. And Walsh was told about it. despite his chief of staff, they can prove that the chief of staff was told about the Swissobulus were giving the information. Did the chief of staff ever tell you about this huge, gigantic scandal that was taking place in your state? I don't remember. They're probably the dumbest answer ever given in a committee. Somebody's telling you or not telling you about the biggest fraud scandal in the history of the... I have a momentary brain loss here. I don't remember. It's just ridiculous. California, Minnesota. The Blue States... are the worst. They seem to go hand in hand. And one thing that bothers me, many things are bothering me, the voter doesn't get as angry or excited about that as they should. They are angry and excited, but they go to the grocery store, if they should be, gas station should be, that really rankles them. Also, if we get a raise to politicians, that rankles them, I understand. But the people robbing us blind with billions and billions of dollars, somehow that doesn't get them. up in arms, which I think it should. But I do think, to answer your question, I do think that government station has made some very good progress and has got to continue to make progress in arrests and convictions and bringing at least a piece of that fraud to a halt. Well, I think all the fraud has to be halted is. If you're an American taxpayer and you are on the short end of all this, we didn't get $5,000 for trips around and credit cards and everything. They so incentivize people coming into this state. The last thing I wanted to ask you about is the Save Act. Do the Republicans get their act together and do the right thing?

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You know how I feel about it, right? I know how logical people feel about it. Yes, it should be American citizens who vote, not people who are not American citizens who are legitimate in terms of voting, and you should be able to prove that you're an American citizen just by photo ID. You have to have a photo ID for almost anything. Again, the football game, we have to have one, but they don't want that for the most illogical reasons. But of course, that would, by the way, in California, They cheat there with the hospice care. They cheat with the daycare centers. Are we supposed to believe that they wouldn't cheat for voting? They're too honest for that. Well, no. It's all kinds of voting. The fraud taking place in California and other states. But I don't know if we're going to be able to, just a tight thing to be able to, I think it's to go through reconciliation. We get the Save Act. It'd be great if we could. And there's several things. Of course, the census, if you have illegal aliens in the state, that can count towards the census, which can count toward how many United States representatives right here in calendar. Well, that's just ridiculous. That's one of the reasons they wanted so many people to flood into the United States. We don't care. For the census, yeah, because they don't care. Exactly. Right, our people being murdered and 102,000 people dying of fentanyl overdose. That's okay. We're not going to say anything about that because we're trying to tilt the election in our direction. So if things were done correctly, if you had to be a citizen to be able to vote, it had to be a citizen to be able to be counted in the census towards a representative allocation. And if we had dream of dreams, perpendicular news media, where it's tilt the head to the left, all those things took place. we would be able to win the House of Representatives with 30, 40, 50 vote marks. So, but reality is what it is. We'd have to keep slugging away, and hopefully, and there's a chance that we may pull it off in November. Well, I think that if we can keep saying facts and you keep acknowledging who's causing the disruption and the failings, then... It's a matter of education, and it's a matter of speaking the truth. I think people see the failings. They live with them. We live with homeless. We have a huge homeless problem here. We have a free bus system that the city and the mayor of Tucson refused to charge for, so they have a deficit in their budget, and then they want to tax us to cover the free bus system. They're not hiring law enforcement. We still have a fentanyl problem. And pretty much anything you could say about LA, you could say about Tucson, just less people. And so I think that's the other thing that's happening with this is we haven't had fires that burned down our housing, but we've had everything else. So as you see these ads from Spencer Pratt and you hear what he's complaining about, if you didn't know what city he was talking about, you'd say, oh, that's where I live if you live in a blue city. So the problems that are being caused by these people are universal.

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It's not unique to California. It's not unique to New York or Chicago. So maybe people start to wake up and say, let's put different leaders in because nothing is changing with this current leadership. Yes, whenever there's a kind of a looseness. When it comes to law enforcement, when it comes to enforcing fraud, when it comes to making sure that voters are real voters, that kind of looseness and the corruption is part of that, a city or state or our country, starts sliding in the wrong direction. And, of course, the voters recognize that, the citizens recognize that this is not going well, things are out of control, prices are out of control. Texas are high, and they leave California, they leave Illinois and New York and Massachusetts, and they go to where they are working well, they go to Texas, they go to North and South Carolina, Tennessee, you go to Florida, where things are well managed by Republican governments. And that's hopefully going to, now one thing is, speaking of encouraging things, Europe. He took the elections last week. The liberals took a big hit. There's a big, big trend all across the Europe in favor of conservatives. Nigel Ferraris has a good chance to become the next prime minister in England. So it could be people to see the woke approach and all the immigration, and that's what's called terrible problems. My daughter with a group of friends was over there in Munich, and they're going down the streets, went to the park. people, the streets from the Middle East, kind of menacing them. It was kind of an unsafe thing that did not feel safe, so they'd go back to the hotel. But it's very much hurting tourism in Europe. The suicide that Europe has been committing, but they're turning in the right direction. And it could be that the conservatives are both in Europe and the United States who will flourish, and we'll have a wonderful future for our children and our grandchildren. I think that's where everyone is right now, especially our age. It's about my grandchildren and my children. But I want to make sure that we leave them something better than we found it. And right now we're not doing that. And not to say that we have contributed to, but maybe we have by not turning out voters or getting a better quality of candidate. And I think people are completely disgusted with the Congress right now, unfortunately. And we have to make sure that we give President Trump, I believe, two more years to do his agenda so that he can have four years of cleanup from the bad policies of the last administration. Yes, his election is a big turning point. Can you imagine if Kamala Harris... have been elected president, or Joe Biden, have been elected president. Iran was probably already have a nuclear weapon. We already have huge problems there, and plus an economy that was sliding in the wrong direction, 9.1% inflation, et cetera, et cetera. So that was a great, great blessing that Donald Trump...

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got elected, and we've got a fighting chance of hanging on to House of Representatives. Good chance, too, of course, holding the Senate. So all is not lost, okay? There's a lot of good things happening with the economy, and so there's a good reason for help. I'd love it. Well, thank you so much, Jared, for dropping in, jumping on with me today. And we started with the president in Xi Jinping. We will watch to see what happens in Iran. And just how many planes Boeing gets to sell, right? That'll be our indicator of how this really worked out. And if our farmers sell their soybeans, all important things. And I'd love to see more jobs come back to the United States of America that we stop outsourcing things that we can do ourselves to enrich our nation. I think it's a good plan. Absolutely. Absolutely. And one last time, share with my listeners your website just so people can go. Yes, a very fun place to visit, like I said before, I could think of it as an amusement park for history buffs, and you go there, and they go to the portrait gallery with the 27 personalities, and not dirt at all of them, but turn on some of them. We had the four Instagram reels, we have a book trailer, we have a fun quiz, and at tiny blunders, big disasters.com. tiny blunders, big disasters.com, a fun place to visit. Father's Day is coming up, so it would be a great opportunity for a gift of our father or for a grandfather. I love it. I appreciate you, and we'll talk again soon. Thank you. Jared Knott. Thank you very much. Greatly enjoyed it. Great honor. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. So we have lots of things going on here. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, I'll kind of give you where you can go this weekend to see candidates if you're interested and some events that we've got coming up. So don't go anywhere. You're listening to Win Tucson on 1030 The Voice. You're trusted local news and talk.

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Welcome back to Win Tucson. So tomorrow, Alex will be here with the regulators on the northwest side on Orange Grove. And if you want to check that out, you can go to the PimaGOP.org. But on Thursday, May 28th at 5.30 p.m. at the Union House, that's Grant Kruger's Union House. We are going to be hosting. Alex Collidan. It is a fundraiser. It is not just Alex be talking, but we need to help put some money in his coffers. And so we hope that you will join us. Alex is working very hard. And if we hope to keep Arizona red, we need to make sure that our Secretary of State is following the law. Alex has taken on challenging. Adrian Fontes in court. He has won many times. And currently, the lawsuit that we have against Adrian Fontes and Mays is for things that intentionally try to deter voters from voting in the way which they like to vote. If you're a law enforcement officer and you want to go vote on election day, The fact that they would target you and say you can't turn up to vote is problematic. And it goes along with the hatred that we have towards law enforcement, which is not helpful, not productive to our communities, not safe for our communities. And when we... demonize a group of people. We are hurting our own community. We are a nation that believes in freedom of speech and they are trying to shut us up, shut us down, not give us our rights and privileges. We talk about the the voting and how important it is, but yet many people have been disenfranchised by the policies that we currently have. And it may not look like a big deal, but when there's observers, we see things that we saw ballots on the ground during one of the most recent elections, which is what caused us to push even harder to have that. The fact that we have accomplished the things that we're accomplishing and we're still in the game to push back, that's only there's only one county doing that in the state right now and that's Pima County that is not by accident that is by design because we understand that when Adrian Fontes didn't have a job he spent two years here and we need to clean up bad policies in order to have fair and free elections make sure that any communication you get about your ballot or registering to vote comes from the county attorney and you can look at that by looking at the postage uh

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permit in the right-hand corner. If it comes from a different state, it isn't from our recorder. That is all we have this week. We're going to have action-pack shows next week, and of course always trying to watch on Wednesday. I have gotten so many texts in the last few days on different topics, and I appreciate you going and re-listening to shows. I am grateful for the opportunity to be here each day, Monday through Friday from 9 to 11. Please be safe. Please go do good work and have a great weekend. I'm going to, and we will be back here on Monday on 1030 The Voice. You're trusted local news and talk. I'm Kathleen Wynne, and this has Ben Wynne Tucson.

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