The Rod and Greg Show: Utah Tech Univ. Exposed for Continuing DEI Practices

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Every reason that she brought, she claims that she brought this case against Donald Trump because I think that, I think it'll be easier to prove. Yeah. You know, you remember when the story broke a while ago that she had committed this mortgage fraud? And people asked, is there any accountability for that? Because it is against law that she's written, she's written that, what was it? Was she lying about primary residence or something? Primary residence is what it was. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I even think, you know, if you listen to James Comey explaining back in a day when he was prosecute, when the Department of Justice was prosecuting Martha Stewart, he said that it's illegal to lie to a FBI agent. And the importance of bringing this case and convicting Martha Stewart for lying to an FBI agent is because she's so high profile, people will understand, the general public will understand you cannot lie to an FBI agent. that that is wrong and there are consequences for that. And Martha Stewart being a high profile is a good way to send that broad message out there that you can't do it. Well, I would think that would apply to an FBI director testifying under oath in front of Congress. You can't lie there. That's against the law. I think he makes his own case. And I think he's making the case of Waya Letitia James, who goes after the former president at the time of the United States for what she claimed was mortgage fraud. If she has in fact committed mortgage fraud and broken the law, she should be held. uh to the law yeah and and i think she makes you could just rattle off her own case and she'd probably make her indict herself and as expected gregg already the media is coming to her defense surprise surprise right this is cassie hunt on cnn just a short time ago when word of the indictment was handed out what Letitia James, and again, we're still getting the details, but if it's related to this mortgage issue, I mean, this is something that everyone in America, or many people at least, if you're lucky enough to be able to buy a house in America, you deal with this, right? The federal government doesn't go after all of these people for doing this. So everybody does it, so why are you going after Letitia James? Yeah, you know what? Yeah, I never heard that. I never heard that argument in regards to President Trump. Nope. They actually, that mortgage fraud and not only get into the deep grass on it, but they were going after him on what they considered to be fraudulent information on his more, his loans that had never been enforced that ever. So where CNN's saying, well, everybody does it. No one has ever done it the way that they were claiming that Trump broke the law doing it. And he even had the bank. who was happy with the loan and happy that he paid it back with interest and was going to explain to the court that this is our underwriting and we're fine. The judge wouldn't let that bank testify in President Trump's defense. So this idea that, oh, everyone does it. Why should we do it? That just doesn't fly with what they've been saying for so long. And again, if you go after weaponizing the government, those that weaponize it. There has to be accountability. Yeah, well, Scott Jennings on CNN just a short time ago, wait in on this case and his thoughts on the indictments handed down, the indictment, I should say, ended down against Letitia James. If Democrats like Elissa Slotkin are going to come out today and whine about selective prosecutions over Letitia James, her entire career is built on the selective prosecution of one man.

Now, I also believe what Elliot said. There's a process here. Everybody gets their day in court. Obviously, a grand jury saw enough evidence to bring charges. We don't know what they are, but a grand jury looked at this and says, okay, there's something here. She gets to go to court just like James Comey, just like anyone else. But to me, it's just not going to fly. to boo-hoo over selective prosecutions on this particular person who promised in her campaigns, who went after him on things, as Jonas said, that had no business, no business ever happening, if not but for the man's last name being Trump. Right on. He's spot on. Scott Jenningsdale. The only reason they went after Donald Trump is because he's Donald Trump. It's that easy. And here's the thing. You know, when they jumped the shark, the Democrats, and they went after President Trump in unprecedented ways. We would argue that that and other things that were just uncovering about what past administrations and federal law enforcement have done like surveilling U.S. senators, people have broken the law. And when you find that they are brazen enough to try and go after Trump on contrived, you know, laws that he broke, the people that did this, the people that are a part of this. I don't know how you're going to not weaponize, create a disincentive to weaponize the government. I don't know how you do it if you don't hold those actors responsible. And that's who these people are. And so that's not weaponizing it yourself. That's not too wrong. Don't make a right. If you are going to go and by rule of law. And these, again, these are easy ones to articulate where they broke the law. If they've done it, they need to be held accountable as they sought for others like President Trump to be held accountable. That's how. You say, okay, can we calm down on this? Because you've broken the law and you wanted to go this route. You're going to be held accountable for what you've done. And that's exactly what many of our listeners, and we've talked about this in the past, they keep on asking, when are people going to be held accountable? And that's where that's the direction that Donald Trump is now taking because. He has a right, and they should be handled accountable. It's that easy. All right, we've got a lot to get to. When we come back, the ninth day of the government shutdown. We'll get into that. Coming up next on the Rod and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio, 1059, KNRS. The ninth day of the government shutdown, he is quoted as saying, apparently there's an ad somewhere of him saying, every day is getting a little better. Yeah. And the Democrats are fuming because they know that, you know, he just admitted in plain English what this is all about and it's a game. And for him to say every day is getting a little better, ooh. What he was saying is the misery index and the pain felt by the American people. gives us more power and more strength. So that's a good day. Yeah. That's a good day when the people suffer and we hold out because now we can weaken their will and we can get more power at the expense and the experience of the American people. Yeah. And, you know, we'll see. It hasn't even gotten real for most because I don't know that many people feel the effects of this government shutdown, but that can't go on forever. At some point, it's going to start slowing things down. And it will next week. That's when the military gets paid.

And if this isn't solved, they will not get paid. And it will get serious. Well, joining us on our newsmaker line right now, this is really all about the enhanced Obamacare subsidies and just getting rid of them. And joining us on our newsmaker line to talk about Obamacare. And the fact that it is a total disaster is Michael F. Cannon, he's director of health policy studies at the Kato Institute. Michael, thanks for joining us. Michael, let me ask you, first of all, what if, in fact, these subsidies go away? What will happen? all the low and moderate income people who are receiving Obamacare subsidies right now would still get them. Those are the original Obamacare subsidies and they're going to stay in place no matter what Congress does by the end of the year. The subsidies that we're talking about today, the ones that people are worried will expire, are subsidies that reach from all the way up to 600,000 people earning $600,000 per year. What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky, and America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Boydware prohibited, visit SpenQuest.com for more details. If you earn $128,000 or all the way down to the poverty line, you're still going to get subsidies. But if these enhanced what they call them, or what I call Obamacare subsidies for the wealthy expire, then the people between $129,000 per year and $600,000 per year don't get any more subsidies. And that is what we're talking about here. That is what Democrats are supposedly shutting down the government to preserve is some temporary... subsidies that President Biden and Democratic Congress put in place and said would expire at the end of this year. So the fact that they expire at the end of this year is Democrats doing. And if they expire, then the wealthier people enrolled in Obamacare will see the full cost of Obamacare's hidden taxes. And that is what scares Democrats. Let's dive into that because I really think that when you listen to the Democrats and even Republicans as they try to articulate this impasse or this issue are failing to point out the $130,000 annual income to $600,000 annual income is the impacted population. They want to make it sound like it's the poor huddled masses. Again, to your point, you can't make the baseline, the COVID years and a pandemic, and that's what they're attempting to do. What will we learn if we see that go away naturally? We don't see the government open. We keep the, you know, the CR the same and it goes through. The debate that you said that they're afraid for us to have, maybe we can talk about that a little more. What will that expose more specifically? Or how can I repeat it to everyone I know is the real problem? So the CBO says that for most people in the exchanges, Obamacare's hidden taxes double their premiums.

Okay. We could get, be getting them comprehensive health insurance, the CBO says, at premiums that are 60% lower than the lowest cost Obamacare plans. And yet all those hidden taxes in Obamacare are prohibiting that because they're compulsory and they're doubling most everyone's premiums. And the premiums go up so high that when Congress originally passed Obamacare, they included a trillion dollars over 10 years. for the people between the poverty line and, you know, $128,000 to help them afford these premiums that the government was increasing. Okay, so that's what the first trillion dollars was for. And you know what Congress decided in 2021, just, you know, 70 years into this experiment, they decided that wasn't enough. They decided a trillion dollars wasn't enough. So now they want another half trillion dollars and not just for people from the poverty line to $128,000 per year. They want this much of this half trillion new money is going to go to people to people making from $129,000 all the way up to $600,000 per year. There are people making $500,000 per year. who could get a $7,000 subsidy, and that's what the Democrats are trying to protect. They're trying to protect people from the excessive premiums that Democrats created. But Michael, I want to ask you, are Republicans telling that story? Because I think if the American people heard that story, they'd go, well, this is a bunch of balloons. There's people in that income range that are not on the exchange, and they're paying a fortune for their health care. Are they telling this story, right, Michael? Usually not, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. They have two ready-made alternatives that all they need to do is put it into law and it would give people access to what President Trump and what Senate Majority Leader soon say they want to do access to. high quality, lower cost health insurance that's so low cost, you don't even need a government subsidy. And what they need to do is build on President Trump's biggest healthcare victory from his first term, which was when he added consumer protections to a type of insurance, we call short term insurance that allowed people to get that coverage that the CBO said is comprehensive and has premiums that are 60% lower than the lowest cost of Obamacare plans. And that would be building on a Trump success. But you know what? They could also build on an Obama reform, which was when President Obama saw that all the hidden taxes in Obamacare would destroy the health insurance markets in U.S. territories, he said, all right, these don't apply there.

That means that in U.S. territories, people are free from Obamacare's mandates. They're free from Obamacare's hidden tasks because they have more freedom to choose their health insurance. than citizens on the U.S. mainland do. Well, all U.S. citizens should have that freedom, and Congress can give it to them by building on that Obama idea and letting citizens on the mainland buy insurance from any U.S. territory, or I should say in the 50 states, buy insurance from any U.S. territory, maybe from the same insurance company with a broader provider network and lower deductible, so better coverage on some dimensions. We've got a Republican idea. We've got a Democratic idea. They should be running with those rather than trying to bail out Obamacare, which is really the crisis that keeps on giving. I mean, Democrats keep trying to scare people about losing their health care. because they passed a law that is terrible and strips people of their health care. So when the president said, look, if you want to talk about health care costs, we can. Republicans will talk, we'll speak with Democrats, but we're going to open the government back up. And once we do, we'll have that discussion. A lot of people were worried that President Trump was capitulating maybe to Obamacare. Where those comments, because he then says, but Obamacare has been a mess. What you're proffering as solutions, is that where you believe the president's going to go with the Democrats if they get the government back open and they want to negotiate this health care issue? Look, the president likes good deals, right? He doesn't like giving something away to the people of the other side of the table without getting anything. And if they just reauthorize these Obamacare subsidies for the wealthy, Republicans and the president will be totally capitulating to Democrats. And so if there are members of his party that want to do that, the way he can get them back into line is to say, hey, look, I had this fantastic success from my first term. It was freeing people from Obamacare's hidden taxes, comprehensive coverage for premium 60% below Obamacare premiums. You give me that, and I will give you a, I'm not going to let you pass those subsidies unless you give me something for us, unless you build on this victory of mine and throw in the Obama idea as well, because then the president would at least be getting something. And I think the gain to freedom would be worse than the loss of freedom from extending those subsidies. And it would make health care more universal at the same time. But just to, now, Congress should not be reauthorizing those subsidies. There's absolutely no excuse for it. But if that train is leaving the station, the president can make sure there's a victory for him in it. Yeah, and there should be. And I don't get it, Greg. 600,000, you're making that every year and you still get subsidies to get insurance. Yeah. That's not. And I'll tell you, there's people with household income that are not getting subsidies. Yeah, that's for sure. Making that so. All right. More coming up, the Rod and Greg show with you on this Thursday and talk radio, 109, KNRS.

I think it was on Monday, it may have been Tuesday. The Supreme Court heard a case involving various states. And I guess Utah is one of them. I don't know why we are, but it banned conversion therapy, right? The state's ban on it. a therapist in Colorado took the case to court and said, you can't stop my free speech. You can stop procedures, but not my free speech. And that's the case that we're talking about, Greg. It is. It's a really fascinating case. And I remember being in the legislature when we passed a bill that didn't allow for conversion therapy. And that was the snarky name of it was Pray the Gay Away. But they talked about electrotherapy and things like that. Those were in the days before the LGBTQ community said, no, we do want to convert. We want to do it through chemical castrations and surgical castration. I mean, they went completely over the other way. Anyway, so this is an issue that needed to be discussed. And joining us on the program will be someone who knows something about this. Carol Markowitz, an opinion contributor at the New York Post. Carol, thanks for joining us tonight. Before we talk about conversion therapy, just your quick reaction today to the announcement last night of a working plan for Pete's in the mid-east. It's really such an accomplishment by the Trump administration. It's something that I don't think any other world leader could have come close to achieving. The Biden administration didn't even try to do this. It's been... a roller coaster of two years with the war between Israel and Hamas and Donald Trump has just done what he said he was going to do. He got elected on, I'm going to end this war and here he is ending that war. I think even people who don't like the president should respect him for this kind of action. Yeah, it was watching the news people hear from the people that are interviewing. He prays on President Trump. You could see the pain looked on their faces. It was just so hard to hear. But I'm surprised that they haven't found a narrative that says that it was a failure somehow, which is what I have expected to hear. But let's switch gears. Let's talk about this case before the Supreme Court. Let's talk about conversion therapy. It's not... It's not what we're talking about today where kids are trying to convert or trying to transition to a different sex. It's actually the opposite of that potentially, but it's found itself illegal in states. I think even in Utah, we have a legislation that bans conversion therapy different than trans. Maybe share with our listeners, what is this case about? What are we talking about with free speech and where is this going? So there's a therapist out of Colorado who believes she's a Christian and she believes that kids shouldn't transition, try to transition to other, other genders, which is, you know, impossible. And parents bring kids to her because she does talk therapy with them and helps them accept the body that they were born into. And the cases for the Supreme Court is whether that talk therapy is allowed.

anorexic child not to accept themselves as they are. This therapist is saying you were born correct and you shouldn't change anything about yourself. And that's what a dietitian who has an anorexic patient would do. They would say you don't need to diet. So I think that just the language coming out of the stories that we hear from inside the courtroom. are heading in the right direction. It seems so obvious. Isn't this therapist just using a little compassion and trying to help these kids? I mean, what is she doing so wrong, Carol? Yeah, you know, the other thing is that, and I point this out in the piece, but it's not the gay conversion therapy of the 60s and 70s, the electric shock kind of thing. She's not doing anything to them. She's actually just having conversations where she's saying, you are good enough. You are, you're perfect as is. And the truth is that so many kids would declare themselves trans end up growing up and saying that they're not trans. There was a huge study out of the Netherlands that followed all these kids. And the great majority of them just turned away from being trans and went back to their birth gender. So, you know, she's helping them get there quicker is what I think of it as. And Colorado should allow her to do that. Yeah, I guess my final question would be what will change? Once the Supreme Court ruling comes out, if it comes out the way we expect, I think it will impact Utah. It's the counseling and the prohibitions around, because they were calling it, pray the gay away, and they had different ways. And they were actually mentioning the lecture shock. It was part of that therapy that they were trying to stop. And you've addressed that. When do we see the changes on the ground? When do we start to see opportunities for kids that might have this gender dysphoria, be able to have a full range of counseling opportunities? I think we're heading in the right direction. We're not quite there yet. I think the loud minority is very effective and they, you know, get the laws passed in various states and they push an agenda. But the majority of the American people are on the side of sanity and they're waking up and they're realizing what's happening to these kids. And they're realizing that it needs to be stopped. I think Donald Trump was elected on a lot of that. I think he was elected on the return to sanity. And I hope that we're going to see that happen. I think we will see that happen, Carol, and thank you for joining us, Carol Jared Moskowitz, a columnist at the New York Post. And by the sounds of it, the court is saying, wait a minute, you can't stop this therapist from speaking and saying what she wants to about this. That's invasion of speech. Well, talk about how relevant it is now. I mean, if we have kids uncomfortable in their bodies or they're questioning their gender, gender dysphoria, what an important time for counselors who.

want to help them be comfortable in the body they were born in to be able to say as much. Be nice with you. Yeah. All right. We've got a whole lot more coming up on the Rodin' Greg Show and Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. We've had just kind of really type stories where you look and go, really? You know, you had the little girl, or went to a build-a-bear shop, and they wouldn't make a build-a-bear with Charlie Kurt's name on it. Yeah. We had that one. We had a guy being kicked out of a card tournament because he refused to take off his MAGA hat. That's right. Remember that one? Yeah, that one. Well, I've got a new one today. There is a school district up in Vancouver, Canada. It's Canada. What do you expect? A motion calling on the Vancouver Park Board to officially apologize for hosting an upcoming Harry Potter attraction. because j.K. Rowling, of course, has come out against transgenderism, and the board is now apologizing for having an, you know, an event on Harry Potter, which she wrote, of course. Well, you know what? I don't agree with the motivation, but, you know, I get, the Harry Potter stuff gets a little old with me. I mean, come on, the books are a lot, how long? I mean, we have to still talk about Harry Potter and then. Well, we don't have to talk about it, but this is how. What's the Hogwarts school or something, you know, the wizardry? This is being treated. I know. No, it's wrong. No, it really is wrong. I mean, they have, and she had stood up. I mean, she went after one of the stars in it. Yeah, Emma, whatever name is. I really went after her too. Well, she said, no one has to. She stood her ground. Nobody was, you know, that was in the movies or anything has to pledge, you know, allegiance to what I believe, but you don't have to use the platform you've been given to go after me either. Yeah, it's just kind of crazy, but that's Canada. It is. Again, yeah, they use Monopoly money. They don't even use real money there. Yeah, it's all fake. Yeah. And they sound funny when they talk. Ugh. Yeah. A boat? Yeah, no, they, I think Canadians, every time Trump would say, I'm so glad he's off of it. When we say 51st state, I'd say no thank you. Yeah. No way. Hey, stay where they are. All right, hour number two of the Roddy Greg Show is on his way.

We loved hear from our listeners this hour because we have, as you described, the greatest, smartest audience out there. 100%. I find the calls and the conversations to be as good as anything else we do. So it's, I like the 5 o'clock hour. Yeah, yeah. Oh, shall we give that? How long's it been since you've been on a snowmobile? You know, it's been a while. Have you ever been on one? I have. Long time ago, though. Yeah, same for me. And they're so much nicer now that, you know, I was around when the first ones were introduced. Those are called dog sleds. That's not a snowmobile. You don't even know what it is. It was, matter of fact, they used to come in two parts. That's how old I am. Oh, my goodness. You are admitting this. I'm admitting this. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not embarrassed by my age. I've lived. Was it a combustible engine or how did it, how did it propel itself? It was a combustible. Okay. Just checking. Yes, it was. But now they, I mean, they have hand warmers, seat warmers. I mean, that's not snowmobile. When I wrote on it, I didn't have the hand warmers or seat warmers. But I did. It was actually, you go to this place and you just, they have the snowmobile suit, you just gear up and you jump on. You ride around for an afternoon. You come back, get out of it, go home. It was fun. Well, the Utah Snowmobile Expo. is underway. It's at the Western Sports Park in Farmington begins tomorrow and get on Friday, and we have a four pack of tickets to give away. Oh, good. Kind of fun? Yeah, I can't. I'm not allowed to get them. No, well, you can't get over that. You think I know people, but I don't. You can't work for the company and give stuff away and keep some of it for your own. I wish. For yourself. You can't do that. Well, I swear you have. I swear you have done it. What? That I've taken stuff? Are you accusing me? Not accusing. I think it wasn't a policy until I showed up. I think that they made this policy because... I like all this stuff. Yeah, well, there's a reason for that. All right, we've got a four pack of tickets to the Utah Snowmobile Expo. This year, it's at the Western Sports Park up in Farmington. Tickets are $10 at the gate with children under 12. If you bring your military ID, you get 50% off your admission. Brought to you by Snow West Magazine and Carl Malone Power Sports. And right now. A four pack of tickets, caller number 10, shall we say? 10. 10. All right. Caller number 10, 888-5708-0101-10. If you're caller number 10, you could be on your way to the Utah Snowmobile Expo underway in farming. A lot of fun. Snowmobiles are fun. They are. But it's been a while for me, too. Yeah, it's been, yeah, it was wild, but I enjoyed it. Yeah. Well, we aren't outdoor kind of people. Yeah, someone's got to have to plan all that because I'm not going to own them. I'm not going to, someone to have to get me to go somewhere. Yeah, I've done one of the things that you did where you go to a place and they suit you up and you get on a machine and you ride the trails. Yeah, it was fun. I was, you know, if you go to Park City and you go on that road and there was like, you know, that big barn that's got the flag on it or whatever, there was like a road that goes back and that's where I were in that area. I went up to Daniel Summit.

Huh. Way up there. And it's really nice. Yeah, I had a blast. I don't know if that place is still out there that does it, but we had a great time. Yeah, that is fun. All right. Shall we talk about the big news of the day? which, well, I don't know what you're talking. There's a lot of big news. There's a lot of big news, but the biggest news of the day, no doubt. And it started breaking as we were wrapping up the show last night was the president announcing that a deal has been reached between Hamas and Israel on the first phase of a ceasefire there in Gaza. And the world today is just reacting to it like crazy, Greg. And to give you an idea, and I think everyone listens to this show understands the magnitude of that announcement. If it was lost on you, all you have to see is the grimace on the face of the reporters is they are having to admit as much as they have never before or wanted to ever. uh the the leadership and the otherworldly strength of will of president trump yeah yeah here's some of the media reaction as the story broke last night details weren't coming out as if yet but word of a deal this is how they reacted well certainly this is an enormous moment for the world but also for this administration a big win for the president who has been very personally involved in this lindsay made no mistake it looks like president trump has actually pulled off something here that many presidents before him have failed to do. Anderson momentous day. There's not much good news in the world. This is great news. I am trying to hold it together, honestly. I've worked on this issue a very long time. Donald Trump on this one has demonstrated a degree of will. Unlike any other president, Republican or Democrat, he has pressed an Israeli prime minister in a way that no, none of his predecessors have ever done. And Greg, even on MSNBC. You know what? It sucks to be bored. But when I get on my phone and play real casino games on SpinQuest.com, the time flies by. That two-hour wait at the DMV seems like 10 minutes. Play your favorite slots. Live blackjack, live craps with a live dealer. New players, $30 coin packs are on sale for 10 bucks. Play SpinQuest.com and you'll never be bored again. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details. which we know yeah they do not like donald trump they do not on that show no but john meekam who is a presidential historian kind of you know he's been very critical of donald trump it's been terrible and david ignatius who used to write for the washington post were on this morning and this is their reaction to the news even if someone with whom you disagree about 99 things does the hundred really well you can say so

Because that's what intellectual honesty is. And so all credit to President Trump and his, as you say, unconventional team. I can remember in the month or so after October 7, an Israeli senior official saying to me, we are so disoriented and traumatized by this war, the United States is going to have to make decisions for us. Joe Biden could never do that. And Donald Trump was able to do it and did it at the decisive moment when he said essentially this war must end. Joe Biden couldn't do it. Barack Obama couldn't do it. George W. Bush could not do it. George Herbert Walker Bush. Bill Clinton, they could not do it. But guess who got it done? Donald Trump. It is. It's astounding. And when I saw the images of... The people, and I didn't know that Tel Aviv had a hostage square. And I didn't know. No, near did I. And when I saw the people there that were celebrating in Tel Aviv and Israel, and at the same time, you're seeing people on the streets of the Gaza Strip celebrating, to have them celebrating the same moment, the same news, I honestly didn't know that I would ever see a day like that. It's almost disorienting. Yeah. You know, you'd think when one side cheers and you're in. I think that those, you know, Hamas is just a bunch of animals. I, you know, I have had very little patience or sympathy for what they did or what they were holding out for. But when you see people celebrating at the same time, those two countries, you know, or those two areas, it's just, it is. It's an absolute shock. And it's something that most people would have told you, including inside that state department, that swamp of a state department, that it could never actually happen. Well, you had to almost pinch yourself when you saw that going. They're celebrating. They're celebrating over the same thing. Over the same news. Wow. You know, the president talked about it today during his cabinet meeting. A lot of praise for the president today. But I think the best comment I've heard so far came today from Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. And I think what's important to understand is that yesterday what happened was really a human story. There's a geopolitical aspect to it. There's no doubt about it. It creates the conditions for Gaza to one day be a normal place again and people to have a better life and Israelis to be safe. But yesterday was a human story. And because of the work you put it, and honestly, there is no, not only is there no other leader in the world that could have put this together, Mr. President, but frankly, I don't know of any American president in the modern era that could have made this possible. Because of the actions you have taken unrelated to this and because of who you are and what you've done and how you're viewed. And this weekend, because of that, at some point very soon, we are going to see 20 living human beings emerge from the darkness into the light for the first time in two years. Marco Rubio put it best. This is a human story. And that's what this is all about. It is. And I'm telling you, he threaded that needle. When he came out, when they had the, when they got with, when they bombed Iran. And then Iran put up the white flag and said, we want to be done. We don't want this anymore. He negotiates what that's going to look like. And in that negotiation as a ceasefire, they're going to stop bombing Iran. And there's a timeline that's going to come. And...

Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel, they want to get in their licks in as much as they can before that timeline. And they just send all those bombers and they just go. And it upset Trump because he felt like everybody could finish whatever missions were in progress. He didn't want ones to start and go after it. And that's when he had those immoral worlds. They don't know what they're doing. And I left the word out. But he was so frustrated in real time. And he's such a transparent president that he said they've been fighting for so long, so hard for so long, they don't know what they're doing. And at that moment, you knew. This man is trying to find that human story. He's trying to find peace amongst two countries and leaders. And that was Iran. But it's also with Hamas. He had to get them. To work together. And I think what he did is he actually, I think he triangulated in an incredible way with Turkey and with Egypt and with Qatar and in other Arab nations and allies. Anyway, he brought people together. Even Mark, Secretary of State, Marco Rubio mentioned it in that same clip you there that. When they had that meeting in the UN, he convened a very large meeting of leaders that probably weren't used to convening together with the President of the United States. So we'll talk more about how we did it and the challenges now in place and what has to be done. And your phone calls on this. We'd like to get your reaction to it today. 888-570-80-10-cell phone, dial pound 250, are on our talkback line and just download the IHeart Radio app. And, of course, look for that little red microphone at the KNRS site and you leave us a message. We'll get to... all your comments and more thoughts on this coming up on the thursday edition of the rod and gregg show and talk radio 1059 knRS welcome back to the show i'm rod arcad all right i'd like to get your theory how did trump pull this off Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. How do you do it? I've got a theory, but I'd love to hear yours. I think it was a couple things. I think he gets personally involved. He doesn't believe in this bureaucratic State Department telling him what's what and how they're going to do it. He's going to himself make those personal contacts with the Arab nations, the Muslim majority nations, with Israel. He's going to do it himself. That's the first thing. And the second is, I think he understands the art of the deal in terms of how do you bring disparate nations with different cultures together? What it would be a common denominator? I think economic prosperity. I think that's something that crosses, whether it's, whether, however that is, however someone wants to live a life of peace and what that prosperity means.

Your economy or its existence means something about that. So in Turkey, for example, they need their concern as defense. And they would like the opportunity to buy F-35s, I think, or at least F-15s. They had some needs. And I think Trump was able to identify those. And every country does, to some agree, especially when you're working with the United States, which has the largest economy and buying power. And basically everything. And so anyway, I think those are the elements that he used. And I think he just has a strength of will. where he just connects those dots and then he just doesn't let it go. He's tenacious. My theory, I have two points. Very similar to yours, I think, Greg. First of all, mine is power. Donald Trump is not afraid to use the power of the United States. Yes. And at case in point, the attack on the Iranian facilities. His reaction when Israel started bombing him. And he just got really upset. So he showed power. And that goes back to when he took out the general. It was his first term. He took out the Iranian general. He was not afraid to show the Muslim nations. I'm not afraid. We're going to use our power to stop this. And with that power, he hates war. I mean, he, you know, and he said it time and time again. He is so frustrated with Ukraine and Russia right now, you know, but maybe he turns his attention back to that. He's tried several times. Hasn't worked, but he's tried. But I think he uses power. The other thing that I think has happened, and, you know, how important are relationships? Very important. In politics and business and everything, right. So what does he do? He heads to the Mideast earlier this year, holds a trip, goes to Saudi Arabia, meets with other Arab leaders, and establishes a relationship with them. And I think they felt, all right, we can trust this guy. We know him? He has said we can bring economic prosperity to the region. He's been successful in doing so. I believe he can do it here. We can partner up. He understands that people are happy when they have economic prosperity. Right. You know, so he's a transactional guy saying, look, I'll do this for you if you buy into this 20-point plan I have on trying to solve what's going on in Gaza. And I think those two elements right there. were part of how he got this done. Plus, he has very good negotiators. He trusts people, Steve Witkoff and his son-in-law were actively involved in this. He trusted him because they know exactly what he's thinking and what he wants done. So he's a transactional president. One other point. We've never had a, maybe we are a really successful businessman. run the United States of America. I don't think we have. I mean, I'm trying to go back as far as I can, but, you know, we had generals, politicians, governors, but never anyone with the business experience that Donald Trump has. And I think he uses that. It is transactional.

And that's how he operates. And that's how I kind of think it came about. You know, and here's the thing. I think each one of his decisions they build on each other. So you talk about Russia and Ukraine. I think that what's happening in the Middle East right now strengthens his hand. Yes. And negotiating with or telling Vladimir Putin, we're not putting up with us anymore. I don't think, I, if anyone still thinks he's a puppet for Vladimir Putin, I don't know what planet you live on, but he has given no love to that guy. And he's trying to sort that out in a way that. You know, they can find some, as you say, stop the war because that's the big priority. I love when he goes on his Middle East tour or when he lay, I mean, there's a lot of people that were really concerned when they bombed that Iranian those sites. They thought that would start World War III. Yeah. It did not start it. They felt the strength because his, whether it was Iran or if it's his Middle East tour, here's his messages. I've heard it. We can all. you know, work together and we can have beautiful lives and we can accomplish the things and take care of our friends and have wonderful lives and we can all be on that same page or I can, or we can turn you into an ashtray. Yeah. Because you're attacking us and you're threatening us and we can do that too. Which, which path would you like to take? And I think that and you see that he means it when he says it because you've seen what he did, you saw what he did in Iran. And I think that in the stuff that he did and the work that he did in his first term, you see that he's not afraid to exercise the strength and the power. He doesn't want war, but he's not going to let the United States be threatened in any way. And so if he sees a compelling interest that America is at risk, he will act. And I think that Sunday deadline that he was talking about going forward, there was a lot of things he was doing out there to signal one, here's one path and here's another. But there's going to be a path. We're not sitting on hold. We're not, we're not idling here. We're going to do something. And I think that they respect President Trump, that he will do something. And that was what put, I think, exposed Hamas to most is because they've been quietly being supported by Turkey, by Egypt, by Saudi Arabia. They had had back channel support Iran to just keep causing trouble with Israel. And they were, that land has just been in turmoil forever. But when he was able to pull them away from Hamas, And they no longer had those, that quiet back channel support. I think that. they saw the writing on the wall. Yeah. I've got a few more thoughts. I know Greg does on this as well, but we'd like to hear your thoughts on it as well. 888-570801010. Dial pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, or leave us a talk message. Just download the iHeartRadio app. Look for KNS.com and click on the little red microphone to leave us a 30 second comment. Your calls, your comments, and more analysis of this very important day right here on the Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. I know it's past your bedtime at 815, so hang on. Oh, Erey says you can watch the Yankees, but you can't because I lost last night. My Yankees. The Yankees's losing. The Yankees can't lose.

Do you know, he's been waiting to play this? I know he has. He's been waiting. He's so excited. All right, we're talking about the mid-Eats deal. How did he get this done? Let's go to the phones, Greg. Yeah, let's go to Jim, and he's been waiting in Ogden. Jim, welcome to the Rod and Greg show. What do you think about the news? Great. Great. I listen to you all the time. Thank you. I'm guardedly excited about it. I don't trust Amos worth anything. Yeah. I hope it gets pulled off. They've signed, but they've signed things before. What I'd like to do is plant a seed. And the seed would be, if this thing comes off, President Trump will certainly be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. And if I would like to see him accept it, but only if he can bring... all the members from all these all these other states that made this thing happen if he said yeah we'll come all of us and we'll be there and we'll stand there but this is a this is a medal for all of us not for me boy that would be quite a gesture jim i like that idea the world stepped in and made this happen i think that's fantastic yes yeah and i think his strength thank you jim he tends to be a real me guy Yeah, he is. Oh, just slightly. I think it works for him. I think it's working for us. But I'll tell you this. He brings up a point. I mentioned this before the show. What's the obsession with the Nobel Peace Prize? It's like wanting the New York Times to like you. I don't think Barack Obama got it. without ever doing anything, having not lifted a finger. Who cares? He got the Nobel Peace Prize. I think it's, I think there are a bunch of lefties. I don't know that I would want their peace prize. I'd say no thanks. Would you? Yeah, yeah. I would take it. I'd take it. No, I think I, we act like it's so important. When I say we. Not that big of a deal. It's always talked about it. And I'm like, you know what? I don't, I don't think those are the people that who's approval we're looking for anyway. Rick and West Valley wants to weigh in on this tonight. Rick, welcome to the Rod and Greg show. Hey, good evening. My take is he's villainized here in America all over the place. No matter what he does, he's in the wrong or it's a wrong point of view or he's guilty of everything. But on the world stage, he's been this peacemaker that's ended seven wars and brought all of these countries together. It's amazing. Rick, what a great observation. You're right. I mean, look at how, not just there, not just in the Middle East, but look at, you know, you had Pakistan and India ready to go, and they both are nuclear nations. They have nuclear capabilities. I mean, you had them at each other's throat. He calmed the waters there. He's done this all over the world. And I think Rick is exactly right. I don't care. I don't know if it's fear. I don't know if it's respect, but I'll tell you what. He does. command respect around the world. And they, and they actually, if he makes a commitment or he says that America will be in a certain place, I think they, not only do they want it, they trust that what he's saying, that he can bring that to bear. And I think that's a, that's a strength of negotiation that we haven't seen from a president that I can remember. Yeah, well, two quick notes before to go to recall it, it pained journalists last night and again this morning.

to praise President Trump for what he did. The look on their faces was prices. And what are they doing tonight? Because I've been switching between CNN and MSNBC here in the studio. They aren't talking about this. Guess what they're talking about? Letitia James. Oh, yeah. Oh, you know. They've got to get into that. You've got to get to a new topic because this one, if you go to the peace in the Middle East, you know, never happened to anyone's lifetime. But they've got to get over that one because he's winning that time. Let's go to Rob and Sandy. Rob, welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. I have two things to say, and I'll be quick. First of all, you something struck me what you said there, Rod, about we've never had a businessman as a president. What we've had in the past, in my opinion, is politicians that were being bought off by corporations that really just drove their agendas. And that's why I think we've gotten in this mess. I mean, can you imagine how much money through campaign financing has been laundered like they did with those NGOs? Oh, yeah. You know, astronomical. Yeah, it is. You know? Uh-huh. But the other thing I wanted to say is, this whole thing in Israel and Gaza, I would have been watching this my whole life. Yeah. And we just do the same thing. I think it's not going to stick. I think we've got to do something. Think outside the box on this one, on the next move here. Yeah, I would agree with you on that, Rob. And I think the move that Donald Trump is making, and you and I, Greg, have talked about this. Donald Trump, I think, believed that people are happy. when they have food on the table, a place to live, an economy where they have money in their pocket. And I think that's what drives a lot of this. He is trying to tell these leaders, create economic prosperity in your countries, and you won't have this. You won't have this violence. I think that's part of his pitch. And what buttresses that case that you're making is the comments from Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who said, this is a human story. There's a geopolitical narrative here. on its most basic level was a human story. Human story. You're right. Let's go to Kathy in Toilla tonight. Kathy, welcome to The Rod and Greg Show. Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. Hello and thank you. You're welcome.

First of all, I really liked Jim's comments before because, again, I have a little bit of concern that this isn't going to be a 100% deal done. Secondly, it just a thought came to me that I appreciate what Trump has been doing, but dang it and I hate that it's going to take 10 years off of his life. At least he'll leave a legacy versus finally. That's a good point. You know that happens with every president. I know, I know, Kathy, you're right. And I am a budget traveler, and I have been to Israel three times. And you know what? I stayed in the Gaza Strip without knowing where I was at. And I'll be done if the lady who ran the little hotel or whatever it was, not a hotel, but, you know, she told me, she said, you know, park your car right in front of my window. I'm going to watch it for you tonight. And I went, what? Where am I? What am I doing? So again. Those people are people. They're humans. I have met many of them. Not that I agree with a lot of what they do, but oh my gosh, we're all humans and all equal. And he does deserve kudos. And I am excited that he's a businessman, even though I know businessmen get there cutting corners a lot of the time. But I'm just sad that it will take a few years off his life. But man, as he accomplished. Boy, he sure has. He's accomplished so much, Kathy. I think you need to cut you off to get to a break. Well said. All right. We've got some of those questions. The world is still holding his breath on a lot of these things. We'll talk about that when we come back right here on the Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio 105.9, KNRS. The question I think has to be, is Hamas going to comply? And I think there was an announcement. Some leader in Hamas says that they has said publicly that they are planning to comply. I have very – by turning over – releasing the hostages. And that's a key. Because if they do that, they lose their leverage, don't they? They do. But I think they've lost a lot of the support. They'd had the quiet support that they had enjoyed or the funding, whatever it may be. They've lost all that, I think. And so they're out there on a limb on their own, and they'd know they're outgunned and outnumbered. And so I think they've – this is probably just almost basically survival at this point because they've lost allies, everything else. But I am cautiously optimistic like our callers, our listeners are. And I'll tell you that the only measure for success for me on this right now is the return of those hostages, alive and remains. If that happens, I don't know what happens after that. But that's the part that I think is so essential to those families who've been waiting and those people that have been living and haven't seen – I heard it said they haven't seen daylight in two years. I mean, I can't even imagine what's been going on. So I just think that is that is the goal here. And once that happens, if Hamas does not want to comply by withdrawing from the Gaza Strip, if they don't want to disappear because that's the best option they have, they're never going to govern. They're never going to do that. And they're being given, I think, like you can, safe passage, you can disappear, but you're never going to be seen again. Yeah, I think that remains to be seen if they'll do all that. But I think that for me, the biggest hope I have is that the remains and the actual alive hostages are returned. If that does happen, Israel has to comply as well. They've got to pull back a little bit.

And I think they have some prisoners that are Palestinian, some prisoners that they have. There are a couple of them that they don't want to release. So that may be a sticking point. But I think that's the question. The other thing is, apparently we're getting word tonight that some U.S. troops may be on the ground there. Yeah, it's been reported 200, 200 U.S. troops will be monitoring the ceasefire conditions. So we'll have to see. Yeah. All right. When we come back, what's going on with Utah Tech and the DEI laws in this state? We'll talk about that. And the mental inheritance of poverty. That's coming up in our number three. Congressman Ro Khanna has called on Virginia Democrat nominee for Attorney General Jay Jones, who wrote the homicidal texts. Yeah, a couple years ago. Fantasizing about then putting two bullets in the head of the then House Speaker, Republican House Speaker, and saying that you've got to bring pain for people to get to accept your policies, your public policies. He's calling for him to drop out of the race. And that would be the first high-profile Democrat I've seen to break ranks and to call for Jay Jones, call for the obvious. And that is that he was certainly not suited to be the top law enforcement official of Virginia of any state, any political subdivision. He's not even fit to be the top law enforcement in his own home. I would say that the guy's alone. He needs to be removed. So he calls for that. He also thinks that Katie Porter, with all the talk about her and the things she's saying. Anyway, that she should hold a long press conference to explain herself and be better understood. And then he says that the government should reopen. I guess that's a wish list he's sharing, but they're all different. You've not heard any other Democrat talk like that. Well, speaking of that, rates involving Jay Jones, support for him apparently is just pshu. The polls are showing. It should. It's just disappearing. Well, it should be common sense. You hear someone to speak like that, and I don't know. You wouldn't want him to have any job. No. I wouldn't, you wouldn't want him for dog catchers, but AG, it's even worse to call him Attorney General. I mean, look, I mean, he says you've got to bring pain. Isn't that what the guy that lit all the palisades on fire? He's trying to, he's a, he's one of those climate alarmists, so he lit it all on fire. hopes that that's going to further their political agenda, make them feel a little pain. And, of course, the major news networks, legacy media, hardly paying any attention. to that story. Well, it was zeros as of yesterday. I wonder if Ro Khanna is going to actually make them talk about it. Maybe it should be. All right. There's been a real battle over DEI here in the state of Utah. What have we done? Legislature has basically come out and said no more DEI programs on our colleges and universities. State institutions of higher learning are not to have DEI programs on campus at all. Administration, anything. And we know what has happened. They've kept the programs just changed the names.

Yes. Is what has happened. Well, accuracy in media has released a new video. This is at Utah Tech University down there in St. George. It's Director of Student Resource Center Director. His name is Drosilla Scott Bottoms, I think, is her name, admitting that the university is continuing diversity, equity, and inclusion despite state restrictions. Now, here's just a little bit. of that hidden camera video. I'm just glad to hear that y'all are still doing equity work. We are. We just do it a little differently. And I mean, it seems to work out fine. We were really fortunate because some places just fired people. And we didn't do that. We just kind of realign what we do. Yeah. And undocumented doesn't fall under a race. So we still keep those services here. Equity apartment. And that's new. It's like under academic. It's not under services at all. So they kept the people. They kept the idea, but they just changed the name, Greg. Yeah. And other universities here in the state have done that as well. It's a big concern. And I appreciate the work that they're doing to uncover that because it certainly doesn't follow the legislative intent. And I'm a little sensitive to that. I think it ought to be followed. And I think that. lawmakers when they get in the next session probably should look at the bill they passed and look for these unintended consequences to be addressed so that the bill actually means something. Adam Gillette is the president of accuracy in media. He joins us on our newsmaker line right now to talk more about this. Adam, why did you decide to take a look at Utah Tech University? Well, we've investigated universities across the country because we suspected. that perhaps rather than actually stopping and pushing radical ideas, they might just camouflage it. They might just disguise it. And what we found at Utah Tech, and I have to say also at another Utah University, is that all this law meant to them was that they had to print new business cards. That's our nightmare. That's our nightmare. I mean, that is the worst case scenario because we saw our legislature pass important legislation that would take this whole focus and this issue out of our schools, our institutions of higher learning, state institutions, higher learning. You're not a lawmaker, so I mean, they're going to have to deal with whether the law is being followed or not. But how do you, you're showing that this is pretty hard to police? How on the, how on earth do we undo this? How do you get the tube back in the toothpaste? the toothpaste back in the tube. If you're finding this, this can't be the only example, you're just finding it so pervasive you can find it. How do we correct it? Happy birthday, America. It's time to celebrate and play your favorite Las Vegas casino games by American-owned SpinQuest.com. What's better than fireworks than American Pie? Hitting a black check in the palm of your hand, and you won't lose your fingers. Over a thousand games, including slots and live dealers. And $30 point packs are on sale for 10. SpinQuest.com. Buy American players for American players.

SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. Excellent question. So of all of the states that banned DEI in higher education, all of those laws with one exception are worse than worthless because they accomplish nothing and provide a false sense of security. These people are unaccountable. They think they're above the law. You can see on video. They brag and they're so proud of how they circumvent the state law. The only solution is to do what Kansas did and pass a law that has a reporting mechanism and actually has legal consequences. Because when people think of higher education, they think, oh, it's full of lefty professors. Well, that is the case, but that's now the least of our problems. In the past 10 years, they've hired 20 administrators for every one faculty member. And these administrative positions, which are driving up the cost of tuition, are all activist positions. These are the DEI positions, the LGBTQ positions. Essentially, these are taxpayer-funded activists at public universities. and they will not let the law tell them what to do. Adam, you mentioned, of course, Kansas, but you also talk about your home state in Florida. What did Ron DeSantis do in Florida? Well, we've done some pretty good things in Florida in that they brought in good university presidents. They reshaped new college. New college was one of the most radicalized universities in the country. They wiped out the board. They wiped out a ton of the administrative positions. And because they read the writing on the wall, many of the other administrators left as well. But we need to fundamentally reshape higher education in America and focus it on education rather than activism. Because again, we've created essentially taxpayer-funded activist institutions that have a mid-school on the side. That's what these universities are now. And we all ought to believe, well, yes, there may be a little lefty, but that's not really true. I'm so sorry because I've trained college students in 48 states, which is most of them, and every college campus I show up and they tell me, Adam, you wouldn't believe how bad it is here. It's like that. every year. You would expect it in Berkeley and in Boulder, but there's no reason red states should be funding with tax dollars, radicals who break the law and push ideologies. in an institution that claims to be focused on higher learned. So, you know, you're talking, it gets broader. So the question is, is this even, are we just chasing good money after a bad effort? Honestly, I start to wonder, when you see Harvard got, has a $53 billion fund, you know, trust fund or whatever it is, and they're getting federal money, hundreds of millions of dollars that's running in a deficit, there's, the tuition is still going up in these schools. And then you look at the other schools, they don't have that large of an endowment, but they.

These are, the interest gained on those things are billions of dollars a year. So my question is, instead of having places that radicalize our kids, is there a hard reset? Do we start looking at trades? Do we start looking at other things that have a return on investment for our young and emerging workforce? Exactly. And Harvard's such a great example because they've got an endowment in the tens of billions of dollars, bigger than the GDP of some countries. Yet the tax fears give them over $1 billion annually. Why? Why are we funding radicalized activists who hate our country, who hate our values? If you want to have some organization like that, knock yourself out, make a 501 charity, create your activist group, create a PAC, go for it. I shouldn't have to fund it, especially when it's a private institution. But when it's a public university, in a red state, why are we funding taxpayer-funded activists who break the law? And I get that a lot of the elected officials are uncomfortable because it makes their laws look worthless, which suggests that either they passed a really poor law or they didn't know what they were doing or they did it and they were just trying to virtue-single with their base. I don't know what the situation was. in these states that banned DEI. But what I do know is these laws accomplish nothing. You need a Kansas-style law that actually has a reporting mechanism with consequences, and you need to eliminate, eliminate these activist positions called administrators at your public universities. You know what I thought was so funny, Adam. I watch your video. You caught this official red-handed, yet she denied it and said, well, it was taken out of context. Do you run into that all the time? Well, that's the fun thing, and it plays out the same way every time when I confront them. First, they deny it, then I pull out the tablet showing the videotape of them saying and bragging about breaking the law, and then most of the time they tell me to leave. And what was so funny in this instance is that this radicalized leftist who gets funded with your tax dollars, she promptly had her staff call the police. And I don't know them. I don't know where they were in the summer of 2020. But I've got to imagine that these leftists are very much the defund the police type. But of course, the first thing they do is when they find something they don't like, they called the police and claimed there was a violent altercation. So I went out and met with law enforcement officers, and they said, we have to detain you because we heard there was a violent altercation. And I said, well, great news. I've got video footage of the entire thing. She could probably go and prosecute whoever filed a false police report with you because I've got footage of all of it. There was no violence at all, except, you know, the hatred that you could see in her eyes. Adam, Galette, President of Accuracy in Media. Adam, thanks for joining us, that hidden camera. DEI, Greg. I mean, there's the state law says get rid of it, isn't there? There is. And it's not, it's, and if you find, and look, I will say this about state government, just bureaucracy, but state government. as I remember it, being a state lawmaker, is that you will find bureaucrats that try to find workarounds. They will try to circumvent what bills have been passed. It's why the legislature has an administrative rules committee. It's a committee that doesn't have a regular scheduled hearing. But when, if you come across state agencies that are violating the law or you think it is, you can make those complaints and you can put that in front of the chairs. Right now, it's Senator Dan McKay and Representative...

Trevor Lee. They're the chairs of that committee. And you can bring the agency in front and say, look, we understand this is how it's being applied. Are you following the law? And have them explain how they're following it or how they're getting around it. And so there's an accountability there. It's a legislative branch that when you're part-time, it's not a part-time branch. It's a part-time service. It's a full-time branch. And so you expect those laws you pass to be adhered to. This one certainly is not. This DEI law they passed is a, is, Adam said, we need like the Kansas part that has a reporting requirement and a penalty if they violate. If they violate, should be. All right, we've had a lot more to get to as you work your way home with us on this Thursday and talk radio 1059, KNRS. And is there a mental inheritance when it comes to poverty? There's apparently a big poverty news or conference or summit held here in the state of Utah yesterday. And we'll talk more about that. One of our speaker, well, one of the speakers there, but also down at the one, is it the one Utah summit? Utah one. Utah one. Spoke at that summit. And he'll be joining us to talk about poverty and the challenges facing people who are poor. Now we mentioned earlier what had happened in Vancouver. That's right. That's the city up in Canada, for those of you who don't know. And I took that opportunity to criticize Canadians. I said that they play with monopoly money. They don't have real currency. Fair game. They speak funny. They talk funny. They talk funny, I should say. Well, you know, leave it to Canada to, you know, want to ban a Harry Potter themed event, had an emergency meeting to stop that from happening because they just can't stand J.K. Rowling. And so we talked about... how silly that was well we like to keep you updated because that's that is an evolving story it appears because i'm now reading a reply uh from j k rolling herself on x really yes she's heard about this and she said to be honest i didn't even know vancouver parks and recreations had avowed me so the disavowal hasn't been seen hasn't been much of a blow next time send me a certificate of a vowel Wait until I proudly framed it, hung it over my PC, and taking a selfie with it, then revoke it. And someone said, oh, I don't know if J.K. Rowan will ever get over this. And she replies and says, I wouldn't say never, but with time, therapy, and the support of my family, I anticipate that I'll be able to hear the words Vancouver, Parks, and Recreations without suffering a serious breakdown within two or to three years. Yes. So a little mockery going that way of the old Vancouver Parks and Rec and well deserved. Doesn't seem like she didn't know that they had avowed her. So the disavowal really doesn't work. Well, the story is, of course, the Parks Board or whatever it was. It was going to hold a J.K. Rowley event. Harry Potter event. And, of course, J.K. Rowley, the author of those books. And apparently the trans community and the gay community up there in Vancouver got very, very upset. And the park board said, oh, we're going to pull it.

Yeah. And J.K. responded. It's like, well, if you want to disavow me, you should bow me first, and then you can disavow. Maybe you should disavow. Yeah. Oh, one quick note. I saw this today. And I love Steve Moore's committee to Unleashed Prosperity, the email he sends out. Yep, it's a really good. We're home to get Steve on the show today, talk about the shutdown, but we couldn't reach him. It's getting too popular. He is. U.S. cities losing the most residents. Which city do you think has lost the most residents in the last year? New York City. You're right. 327,522 people. Honestly, folks, I didn't know that. That's over five years. But I knew. Yeah. Because I don't have the luxury of opinion. Second. I just know. You just know. Second, San Francisco. Makes sense. 50,000, 866. Third, Philadelphia. You're not a big fan of Philadelphia. Philly's a whole. I don't even know how people live there to start with. I don't even know how they got population in Philadelphia beyond, you know, Independence Hall and, you know, the Revolutionary War. But, yeah, no, that place is terrible. You know, speaking of Philly, last night, they're in the playoffs right now. Yeah, they had the Dodgers last night. They beat the Dodgers. And I felt so sorry. You know why? Jay Clayton Kershaw. who I think is one of the great pictures out there. They put him out in relief, and he got bombed. Well, the first inning he didn't, that he pitched. The second inning, he did. It was pathetic. And he is a great, great picture. Yeah, he was a good pitcher. Yeah, well, many people are comparing him to Sandy Kofax, who was in the stands last night watching the guy. And I just felt sorry for Jay Clayton Kershaw. Boy, they set him up for failure there, didn't he? Boy, they score 18 runs. Yeah, it was, I turned it off. It was becoming so, it was such a kill. I just stopped watching it. Poor guy. All right, more coming up. The Rotting Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. This is a crazy story. The biggest great white shark ever recorded in the Atlantic has resurfaced just off the coast of Canada where he is fattening up on seals ahead of the winter. Nice. Yeah. Nice, you say. Well, you know, jaws, it's nice to know that that's real. Yeah, he is 14 feet long. When you say the largest one, you're not, you're saying that there's one and they're just tracking it. You said it showed up. Is it the same one that showed up? Yeah, they try. Apparently, the tracker they have on them only transmits a locating signal when the shark's dorsal fin is briefly exposed above the water surface. And it's been disappeared for a while? And they'll go down deep and they can't track it.

How long do they lose track of it? I don't have all the answers to that. Oh. It's just in this story. 14 feet long, that is a serious great white shark. How big is this room? It would be longer than this room, I bet. Really? I'll walk it off. I'll walk it. I can walk off how many feet it is. Wow. 14 feet long. How'd you like to run in that into the water? No. Yeah, probably is wide. Probably as long as this. No, this is 20 feet. This got to be 20 feet. Yeah, probably. Yeah. But 14 feet long. Up in Canada. Eating seals. That's kind of sad for the seals. Boy, it's hungry. Yeah, seals are big, too. Apparently they fatten up for the winter. I didn't know that. I didn't either. All right. Things you learn on this show. That's right. That does it for us tonight. Head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your family in this great country of ours. We're back tomorrow at 4. Happy birthday, America. It's time to celebrate and play your favorite Las Vegas casino games by American-owned SpinQuest.com. What's better than fireworks than American Pie? Hitting a black check in the palm of your hand, and you won't lose your fingers. Over a thousand games, including slots and live dealers. And $30 point packs are on sale for 10. SpinQuest.com. Buy American players for American players. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpendQuest.com for more details.