The Rod and Greg Show: Reaction to ICE Arrest at SLC Airport; Why Tariff Inflation Scare is Dead

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And in Utah. I would expect that out of like Illinois, you know, or, you know, somewhere in California near L.A. or San Francisco, but not here. It's just sick, folks. We live in a sick world. New York City. It's too bad, too bad. All right. Let's start off today. The Senate has apparently now gone home, and they will not take up the shutdown issue until sometime next week. Yeah. So here we go. They keep voting. They keep going, man. Democrats keep saying, no, thank you. It has gotten to the point today, Greg, that now even the Washington Post is now calling for the shutdown to end, for the Democrats to give it up and to reopen the government. Yeah, and, you know, I know there's been some work on the editorial tone at the Washington Post trying to make it a little more attractive to general everyday Americans. I think maybe this is part of that in terms of how they've reconstituted their editorial board. But I say that it doesn't take, you know, it doesn't take anyone that has any common sense to say that the Democrats, this is a self-inflicted, unforced error. a crisis of their own making literally. They have made this crisis to try and leverage the American people in its misery for their benefit and the benefit of people that are not even citizens of this country, which is probably the worst part of it. Yeah. Well, here's what the Post said today. I talked about, you know, nearly 42 million Americans will go without food stamps as of what? Saturday. No more money for that program. The Post said today, the leverage is not worth the potential harm. that it may cause. They go on to say the right answer is to reopen the government with a clean funding bill, ideally for a full year to get food stamps flowing, federal workers back into the office, and then have a debate about the ACA subsidies, the Obama subsidies, right? Do they know what next year is? It's an election year. Midterms. Nothing is going to get done next year. So Democrats openly acknowledge that they refuse to do this because it would mean giving up their leverage. If they persist, it could mean families start to go hungry. Let's put it into it. That's the Washington Post. Yeah, you know, and I think Secretary Scott Bessent, coming back from the Asian trip, probably not a lot of sleep. And so he's a bit salty this morning. Really had some, I think, pointed words towards the Democrats in terms of what they're trying to do, not just with this government shutdown, but really to try and stop this president and his leadership. Let's have a listen. My theory of the case here is since President Trump came into office, as you know, the Democrats have been trying to stop him. They run to the circuit courts, and then the circuit courts get overruled by the Supreme Court. They go to the media and the media is not able to stop him. So what did they done to try to stop this great economic momentum bringing our country back from the four years of?

the Biden disaster, they're going to shut down the government. And, you know, it's like cutting off your nose despite your face. They're making things worse. They are. They're making things worse. As a matter of fact, today, Greg, I know you've got some audio from this. Here you have the executives of the nation's major airlines going to the White House and say, we have got to stop this. We're putting the public in danger. Yeah, no, it's, and you had all the airlines there, and I think that the CEO, now look, they tried very hard to not be, they're not, they're, he's flanked by the vice president, JD Vance at this press conference and with the transportation secretary, Duffy, you know, and really, they're all making the same statement. We have got to get our air traffic controllers on. We've got to keep business going. We've got to keep being able to work. But here's what, Scott Kirby, he is the CEO of United Airlines. This is his message to America and probably to the Democrat senators. Health care. It has been 30 days. I also think it is time to pass a clean CR. Use that as the opportunity to get into a room behind closed doors and negotiate hard on the real and substantive issues that the American people want our politicians on both sides of the aisle to solve. But let's get a clean CR and get that negotiation done behind closed doors without the pressure and without putting the American workers and the American economy at risk. I don't think they're going to give up, Craig. I honestly believe the Democrats are so dug in on this that they are not going to give up. Yeah. And so you had, you just heard, you know, you heard Scott Bessent get upset about it. You've heard, you've heard that. But I think that the, the teamster president, Sean O'Brien, he represents a million and a half teamsters and all their, you know, they have families. He's pretty, he's pretty pointed about that. And this comes, this. quote really comes with some political heft. Look, the bottom line, and we took a position. I represent 1.3 million working men and women in this country for the international brother of the teams. We took a position three weeks ago. Pass a clean CR, get to the table, negotiate a deal. Do not put working people in the middle of a problem. They should not be in there. And we've got to think about the families that are going to be affected. Think about when you have to tell your son or daughter, they can't play sports because you're not getting paid. Think about when you can't pay your mortgage. Think about when you can't pay your tuition. Put the politics aside, get to the table, negotiate a deal, pass a clean CR right now, and then figure out the problems moving forward. He's right on, and he brought it down to, you know, you can't go to your kid sporting event. They can't do this. You can't put food on the table. Why? Because the Democrats are so dug in. And I honestly believe they're going to give up for a while still. I am shocked. I thought after the No Kings thing, they were going to, they would. You know, they would acquiesce, but they're not. They're not doing it. No, they are not. As a matter of fact, listen, here's another member of commerce. She is a Democrat. We have gone, what, 13 times now to try and get this done. But this woman, her name is Representative Janelle Bynum, fumbled a very simple question about the Chuck Schumer shutdown today. Listen to her response here. They did have a clean CR vote on September 19th in the House. Did you vote for it? I disagree with your characterization and want to make sure that we're very clear about what Republicans have been doing. Any bill that they've put forth, they've always had some extra stuff to it. There's always been a poison pill to it. So I disagree with your characterization. What were the poison pills of the clean CR or the continuing resolution you say it's not clean that was voted on in the House in mid-September?

Here's what's important. I think what you're trying to do is shift the responsibility to Democrats. When all else fails, Greg, you do two things. You either claim it's Donald Trump's fault or you're trying to shift blame to the Democrats. Well, she made a point. Her answer was there's always a poison pill in there. So she just said, well, do tell. Give us what the poison pill was. And she said, oh, you're trying to shift. No, that would be you. That would be your pivot. Yeah. That would not be. uh the person interviewing him by the way when's the last time they've ever had a tough interview by the regime media when they start when they start asking questions that question wasn't even hard no all she did is play off of your answer you said there's always a poison pill tell us what's the poison pill okay great there's a poison pill tell us what it is oh you're trying to shift blame apparently months ago when they did pass a clean CR there was no poison pill Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeart media a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-Ehart. This CR is exactly the same thing. Wear the new poison pills. Yeah. They just don't know how to fight. They, like I said, Greg, they are so dug in. I don't see how they get out of this. I really don't. I don't either. And look, it's not going unnoticed. The American people see it. Even though I'm staring at a Washington Post, even though their editorial board said it's time to reopen the government Democrats and quit messing around, they had to at least throw the Democrats of bones saying that American blames Americans blame Trump and the GOP more than Democrats for the shutdown. They're poll fines. I don't buy it. We'll break those numbers down a little bit later on in this show. All right. We've got a lot to get to today as we do each and every day on the Rod and Greg show. We invite you to be a part of it. 888 5708010. Or on your cell phone, dial pound 250 and say, hey, Roder, leave us a comment on our talkback line. More coming up on the Rod and Greg show. The big story over the last couple of days has been the pivoting on the part of Bill Gates when it comes to climate alarmism. I don't know about you. But he should, he should apologize, in my opinion, Greg, to every school child in America today for scaring the living daylights out of him. Sure, absolutely. That's what he has done, in my opinion. And every Hollywood star that didn't have anything else better to do, too. Yeah, before we go to our interview, I want to hear this soundbite from Harry Nend, our good friend at CNN, how Americans feel about climate change. I think a lot of people.

will agree with Bill Gates that maybe this wouldn't be the end of humanity. And I think, you know, we've been talking about climate change now for decades upon decades upon decades. And the worry in terms of climate change, simply put, hasn't shifted. It has not reached the majority of Americans. What are we talking about? Greatly worried about climate change. You go all the way back to 1989. It was 35%. 2040%. 2026%. And in 2025, look at that. It's 40%. The same number as we had 25 years ago back in 2000, and then only just five points higher than we had back in 1989. Really, we've just seen consistency on this issue. The bottom line is that the climate change message that folks who, of course, believe that climate change is real and is quite worrisome, simply put, has not really worked with the American people. Join us on our newsmaker line at Sterling Burnett, Director at the Center on Climate and Environmental Policy at the Heartland Institute. Sterling, thanks for joining the Lerigan Greg Show. Great to have you on today. Thank you, Sterling. Yes, good to be on again. Sterling, what do you make of this? And Bill Gates pivot? Well, first off, I think Americans recognize that not just for 25 years or 30 years or 40 years. Climate environmental alarmists and then morphed into climate focusing on climates almost exclusively. They're willing to kill birds now. They're willing to kill bats. They're willing to kill turtles because it's all that climate. But before they were worried about the environment, they've made predictions for over 100 years. A hundred years of predictions. Forty years of climate predictions, not a single one, not one has come true. Flipping a coin would do better. So the public's are holding. You say follow the science, the science says no bad things are happening. We're not getting worse flooding. We're not getting worse hurricanes. Hurricanes are bad, but they've always occurred. They're not unusual now. Wildfires are bad, but they're not unusual now. All that's unusual is the alarmist reporting about it, and people like Bill Gates profiteering while pushing their message. And you know what? Bill Gates came to, I think, an epiphany. He says, look, I've been saying this for a long time, and I'm looking stupid. I want to play in the AI game. I want to be big in the AI game, and I can't do it with the wind and solar I've been pushing. And it's hard for me to tell everybody else, you've got to use wind and solar while I'm wanting to start a new nuclear plant. Or I'm wanting to use natural gas because AI doesn't work just when the sun shines or the wind blows. They've got to have it 24 or 7. So he's saying, I've got to change my message. Now, he's always been big on helping developing countries. Now, he tells him in his own way, rather than using DDT to kill mosquitoes, he'll use DDT bed nets as if people sleep in their beds all day. He'll say, oh, they've got to have solar. They've got to have power, and so he'll give them solar panels that they don't know how to operate, but not coal. But now he's saying, look, What we've learned from people to be, you know, not to two-pound horn, but from people like the Heartland Institute, groups like the Heartland Institute, we've been saying for 30 years, you want to help people, make them prosperous, get them rich faster. The difference between when a hurricane hits Indonesia or Malaysia and when a hurricane hits the United States, why do hundreds of thousands of people die there and maybe a thousand die in flooding here, but usually it's only a few dozen?

It's not that the hurricanes are tougher there than they are here. It's that the infrastructure is better here. It's that we're wealthier. We're prepared better. We have better recovery efforts. Yes. Oh, I've had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck? Brett Ski, I got you. I've had so much luck on SpinQuest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just $10 bucks. $10 for $30. I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. And that comes with wealth. And that's what he recognized. That's what he finally at me. He said, yeah, the climate's bad. But we'll help more people by helping them get rich fast. regardless of what happens with the climate. So Sterling, I think you're being very generous to Bill Gates. I think that is a benefit of the doubt that I don't give. I'm going to throw out a theory to you and you can tell me if it sounds plausible or if you disagree. I think that Bill Gates likes to control things. I think he wants to socially engineer the world. I think he knows. He thinks he's the smartest guy. He knows. And I don't think that it's out of compassion. I think it's out of control or a desire to control things. And when he thought he could control power, which really does compel behavior or control human beings, it was to limit it through solar and everything else. To his horror, he found out that his very effort of trying to limit and maybe dole out power ever so slowly, it was going to impact him, his bottom line, and maybe what he wants to do. And now he has to pivot, not because he can help people in different ways or there's new technology that I think that his lust for power. requires him to be able to have AI, requires this much energy, and he can't hold both thoughts at the same time. But he's not, his heart's not bleeding. He, he is doing all of this because the bottom line will be impacted if he had to even live under the world he tried to create with limited power. And now he's going to try and hold, you know, control people by controlling AI and everything else. Does that, am I being too harsh? Well, look, I think he's got the same problem that a lot of very successful peak entrepreneurs have. They've been very successful in one little area. And they're in that area, they are geniuses. Yeah. And so because they're so smart there, they think they're smart enough to run the rest of the world too.

Well, I've made my success here so clearly I'm qualified to tell everyone else how to live their lives. Look how successful I am, right? So I think it's part, hubris and ego on his part. It is part of power grab on his part, but I think it's also, I think he does. You know, look, he's giving away being the dollars to his foundation, and he doesn't control the giving of that. So I think it's a combination of those factors. Okay. The AI part is, the AI part is really important. You're right about that. But remember, he's also losing money elsewhere. He's invested heavily in the fake meat industry. And the two big companies that he invested in are now trading as penny stock after being worth billions of dollars a few short years ago. He lost a lot of money. He has invested in this vaccine that will make cows not burp and fart. And you know what? No one wants to eat that meat because they're afraid of the impact of the vaccine. He's got a lot of ideas. He's invested a lot of money in it, and he's looted money on all of them, and I think he's thinking, hold it. Maybe I better pull back, rethink. He may still be questioned for power. I've got no doubt of that. But I think that he's come up short so many times that he's having to at least pause and rethink. Remember, just two years ago. Just two years ago, he wrote a whole book about climate catastrophe. And two years later, he's having to eat crow. That can't be easy for a guy like him. Not for him. Sterling, as always, great to having you on the show. Thanks for a few minutes of your time today. Thanks for having me. Thanks a lot. All right. Sterling Burnett, he is with the Heartland Institute talking about the pivot of one Bill Gates when it comes to climate alarmism. Pivot! A pivot! More coming up on the Rodden Greg show. It's all about Trump and his agenda, his leadership. You remember that old Independence Day, Liberation Day, rather, when he announced reciprocal tariffs. Yeah, back in April. Yes, it was going to be a two-way street, and we are going to give as good as we get. in terms of imports, exports, and everybody lost, well, all the important people and so-called smart people lost their minds and said this is going to devastate the economy and it's going to, the sky was going to fall. And here we sit today and we're seeing Trump come back from a very successful Asian tour and a trip even with China where the leverage of Liberation Day, I would argue, has borne much fruit. It has since he started and it continues to do so to this day. I think the inflation scare. could be dead or near death right now, joining us on our newsmaker line. To talk more about that, he is the finance and economic senator at Breitbart. His name is John Carney. John, thanks for joining us this afternoon. All this fear of inflation because of the tariffs is basically dead. John, what happened? I think one of the things that happened was that the tariffs never really got pushed through to consumers.

We heard a lot about how the tariffs were going to become a tax on the American people. And it hasn't happened. Why hasn't it happened? The reason primarily has been that a lot of the tariffs are actually being pushed back onto the foreign suppliers. You have these giant retailers, Walmart, Amazon, Costco, who do not want to raise prices on their consumers. We all just went through some of the worst inflation in 40 years. They know that people do not want to see prices start to rise rapidly again. So when these businesses are cases of tariffs, rather than push them forward onto you and I, they push them backward onto their international suppliers. And the international suppliers don't want to lose their market share in the U.S. So they say, yes, okay, we'll find a way to cut our costs and sell it to you cheaper. So therefore, and then some of it does get absorbed by the companies themselves. But it's very little of it is actually getting passed through to consumers. So you got some holdouts out there that hate to be wrong. So they're saying, no, we're not wrong. It's just coming any second now. You don't even know. It's just it's teetering up there like an anvil. And it's going to come down on us, you know, and they're looking at their watch. Do you think this is a delayed inflationary effect? Or do you think that the enough time has passed that that theory has been put to bed? It's a little bit become like the waiting for Godot, where they just wait and wait and wait. No amount of evidence that the tariffs aren't being passed through to us counts as evidence that they're not going to be. They just say it's just coming. It's going to come at some point. And I think that that should have run out. And because the factors that have kept them from coming into consumers aren't going away, the number one factor is that we live in a dynamic competitive economy. So if one big store, say I'd like to use Walmart and Target as my examples, if Walmart tries to raise its prices, Target will advertise that they are not raising their prices, come shop here and everybody will go shop there. And the same thing happens the other way. Since both companies know that, they can't raise their price because they'll lose their customers to the other one. And that doesn't stop. There's no time period. I've heard people now say, well, when we get to January, they'll start to do this. I don't, but of course, but they said that when we get to July, we'll start to do this. When we get this, you know, once back to school shopping is over, we'll start to see the prices. It keeps not happening. I think at this point. That narrative, as I said, is all but dead. Of course, we still have to convince the people at the Federal Reserve it's dead, but it should be dead for the rest of us. Competition is such a good thing, isn't it, John? Let me ask you this, John. Rather than dragging the economy down, tariffs have actually become a colossal source of revenue, have they not? That's right. The federal government is taking in hundreds of billions of dollars more even than the people who are putting the tariffs in estimated. It has been a huge source of revenue that's bringing down the deficit, which actually then helps bring down long-term interest rates because the government will be issuing less debt and less supply of debt means that the interest rates are lower. So it is actually helping bring down long-term interest rates. That helps bring down things like mortgage costs.

even without the Fed doing anything, the Fed has been cutting. But even if they weren't, we would be seeing long-term interest rates come down, which brings down mortgage rates, which really helps people who are worried about things like home affordability. It brings down credit card rates as well. So it is good that we are seeing the deficit come down because we have this enormous revenue resource that we haven't had before. You know, you just gave a great explanation about where, where is the cost being borne on these tariffs? And you pointed to maybe the importers, those that send it wanting to preserve a market share. My wife, Queenby and of the Hughes home, she thinks that the cost increases that we saw after COVID, where supply chains were broken down. She did not see the prices adjust back down. at least in grocery shopping and the things that she buys, purchases. And so she believes that there's probably a healthy profit margin that along the supply chain, you could see the tariffs being absorbed. Does that resonate with you at all? It does. I think that one of the things we're seeing is that there actually did build up because of all that inflation, a lot of sort of excess profits that were happening. And when I say excess profits, look, a company, I know, I'm not a socialist. A company can make as much money as it wants to. But what I mean here is that they have as they have room. to squeeze their margins a little bit, to create more efficiencies in the way they are doing things. And sometimes that will mean that they're making a slightly lower profit. Sometimes it really just means making their operations more efficient. so that they can absorb this extra cost rather than pass it on to the consumers. John, is the bottom line here pretty simple, despite all the fear about the tariffs, that tariffs are in fact working, and President Trump is using them very effectively to try and bring some manufacturing back to the United States. So are they, in fact, working? They are working and they're working not just by not raising prices here. They're actually getting the rest of the world to agree to open their markets to us. That was one of the big goals that Trump said he was going to do. Everybody said, oh, no, it's protectionism. It will be terrible. Trump has been actually arguing that tariffs can be a tool to lead to freer trade globally. And we're seeing it now on this Asia trip where he is getting South Korea, Japan, countries all over Asia, Malaysia, Vietnam, say we will open our markets to you into an extent that we never have before.

In order not to get rid of the tariffs, by the way, just to bring them down to 10 or 15%. And so we still end up with the tariff revenue. We're still better off than we were in on those terms. And yet we also have access to markets for products made in America that we haven't had for a generation. Hanging out at the pool is great. Relaxing and playing Vegas-style games on my phone at the same time. Drink in one hand and a blackjack in the other. It's all at SpinQuest. Over a thousand games including your favorite slots and table games. Be cool with this summer special. New players get $30 coin packs for 10 at SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. On our newsmaker line, we've been talking with John Carney. He's with finance and economics editor. They're at Bright Bar talking about tariffs and where did the inflation go, Greg? Just simply disappear. Well, the Trump derangement syndrome regime media and others are just praying to see this hit anytime now. They've been calling for it. They don't want to be wrong. They are wrong. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah, it's a, this president, I love. Not only was there margins within the exporter or the importers that we're importing here and the profit margins that people have, which I'm a free market guy. I love it. But you're not seeing, they're not harming their market share of the consumer. So we're not feeling it. And then the leverage it creates. Yeah. And you're seeing it in this Asian tour alone, which there's been so much prior to this. But you're seeing they'll give the America a much better deal than we'd be getting prior. But we're going to get a better deal too. These are things that people say couldn't happen, and we're seeing it in real time. We better be taking inventory of it. All right, more coming up on the Rod and Greg show on this Thursday afternoon and talk radio, 105-9 canter us. You know, like the tooth fairy of current events. We get a story that is breaking and happening at the Salt Lake International Airport. Oh, we just love it. We've got Mayor, Salt Lake City Mayor Menon Hall, just sobbing and upset about ICE doing their job. Apparently, folks, we've had an incident where we've had a person who's here illegally that's been detained. at the Salt Lake International Airport and watching the video. And Heidi Hatch from KUTV has done a yeoman's job of actually giving us information. We have a mayor that wants to say it's a Utah woman, you know, not say who it is and we don't know anything about her or why she was apprehended. But Heidi Hatch from KUTV has the information from ICE in terms of the circumstances that this individual who is here in the country illegally was detained and is going to be.

uh deported to el salvador so we want i want to talk i i'm citizen hughes i know that was a long intro but i am raising my hand that i'd like to talk about this yeah we're going to talk about in the in the five o'clock hour is this five o'clock yet no okay it's 455 okay look at your i love this i've been watching this video since i've seen it because there's so much to pull from this video lots of things in this video that i like i'd like to share so I kind of lost track of the time. But yeah, we are talking about this at the 5 o'clock hour. In other words, if we're going to put this in plain English, Aaron Mendenhall has opened her big fat mouth again without really understanding the facts. That's what it comes down to. I think that's part for the course for all of America's mayors. They just want to say babies and what it's zip ties. Yeah, the mayor of Chicago say, do you know what ICE is doing? They're throwing babies into paddy wagons and zip tying them. Yeah. No, they are not. It's a flat out verifiable lie, what he said. And then Aaron Menning Hall and the city council were now with their statement trying to make this person out to be just some victim that just got attacked unrighteously. Aaron, I think this is the French way of saying, shut your mouth. Fermé LaBouche. You say from an archette, no less. I think that's right. From the French that I remember. We'll let you hear what happened because this lady just goes nuts. And as you point out, no one's paying attention to it. I can't wait to tell you about the environment in this airport. What's going on while they're enforcing the law? I've said this a lot. criminals are not oppressed and enforcing the law is not oppression no it is not and we'll get into this and get your thoughts on it coming up on the rotting great show hour number two right here on talk radio 1059 canRS

The wonderful, delightful Aaron Mendenot of Salt Lake City has opened her big fat mouthing. She keeps saying big fat mouth. Well, that's what it is. Big fat mouth. Huh? Harsh. Is it harsh? I think it's harsh. No, it's honest. I'm being honest. She is talking, much like many of the mayors of America, saying things that have no basis in the truth, trying to find heartstrings to pull for people that don't deserve your compassion because they are criminals. They are breaking the law. And they've been doing it for quite some time. And now the laws being enforced. Imagine that. Imagine that. Well, apparently there was an incident at the Salt Lake International Airport a couple of days ago at the airport. Okay. And the mayor has now said it is going to have a major impact on our community. Yeah, so this might have happened a couple days ago, but all of the, you know, the X and the social media sphere, and KSL just put a story out, I think it's hitting our attention, you know, our radar hitting it right now. Yeah. But, yeah, I kind of kind of shared it before we went to the break, but maybe you'd like to share what went down. Well, apparently the ice agents were at the airport. the pre-screening area, a point you've got to make here in just a minute. But apparently there was a woman there who was in this country illegally, okay, from what we understand, right? And apparently ICE agents decided to arrest the woman. This is how it went down. Get ready.

me I don't know how it. That he went. I have my pain. My daughter. She's a human being. Oh, have mercy on her. Lady, she's in this country illegally. She's had a removal order that has been fully judicated. She came in in 07 from El Salvador. She's had a. all through the whole court case. And you know some of these scams when they let them across. They give you a court case in five years from when you walk in and, you know, when you get in here. Anyway, from February 19th of 2020, she has been told that she has to leave. It's a removal order of which for, you know, five years plus she's been ignoring. Yeah. She's not followed the law. So she was got, now for the woman that's yelling and show mercy, she's a human being, can I just say, and I think our audience will, you know, because we have a smart audience will understand. What is merciful about letting people break the law that many people around the world would love the opportunity to live in the United States, see the laws that require you to legally enter this country, and it's not easy and are not here because they are endeavoring to follow the law or the laws are too tough. They can't get in here. But someone who breaks the law, that's who you have mercy for? I think we ought to, I mean, there's a lot of places where you can show mercy. In this circumstance here, that would not be one. Now, before you make your point, okay, I want to get through that. But I want to delve into the wisdom of our mayor. Okay, yes. Okay. How does she describe it? We kind of give you the real deal, folks. She is asking some very critical questions here. Are you ready? Here are the facts she's sharing with us. The arrest occurred in the pre-security area of the airport. Okay, that's true. The operation wasn't directed or coordinated by the Salt Lake City Police Department. They usually don't, right? They're not ICE agents. They don't enforce federal law, so that would stand to reason. Yep. As Salt Lake City Police officer was president after what was reported to be a commotion. Which you heard that woman, it certainly hits that it was a commotion. She points out, like you just pointed out, the local law enforcement is prohibited. by federal law from interfering in federal immigration efforts. Well, if federal agents are enforcing federal law, local law enforcement cannot impede or obstruct the enforcement of federal law by federal law enforcement. Yeah, she goes on to say the city has outrequested more information from federal officials about the incident. In daily city operations, when SLCPD arrests an individual for suspicion of a crime, the individual's immigration status does not factor. What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky, and America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me, which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering.

But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs, who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-I-Hart or go to iHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-IHart or iHeartadvertising.com. And to how officers handle this. That's the wisdom from our mayor. So it's October 29th. That was yesterday, right? That's when this whole thing went down. Now, you made an interesting point about people at the airport. So I was just at this airport coming home. You know, I just got back for a trip with the fam. You know, you got to go to baggage claim, get all the luggage and everything else. So what I have noted in this, or what I'm noticing in this picture, because I've just seen this area of baggage claim recently, man, people are in a hurry. Yeah, they're trying to. They are. This area that is the baggage claim is also where you enter into the TSA area and you got to get in line. You got your pre-TSA check. You got clear. In this video where this woman is straight screaming at the top of her lungs, people are walking by. They got to go. They got to get in line. They are moving. People are trying to get their luggage. The mayor wants to make this out to be a five alarm fire and you hear show mercy. You'd think this is the biggest deal in the world. The people at this airport have places to go. They're not stopping. I would argue that you get more looky-lose on I-15 with a flat tire than you're getting at this airport right now when this situation is on camera being shown. People are just, I just keep seeing heads and people walking by. There's someone's recording it. And you just see people walk, pass, past, past. People are walking. They're not slowing down. They're not watching her. They're getting to where they got to go. And they're imagining, well, that person must have been on the wrong side of the law because they're getting hauled out. Well, that's what I was going to say. People are looking, okay, police are there. She must have done something wrong and they're arresting her. Yeah. It's that easy. I mean, the ice agents aren't playing close, but, I mean, doesn't phase anybody, man. These travelers, I'll tell you this, these travelers know, they got like two miles to walk probably. They've got so far to walk if they're walking into that tunnel. Oh, you're picking on the airport. Yes. They have got such a far trek of their own. Their pioneer gene pool is about to kick in so they can get to their gate. So they can't be slowed down by this debacle or this spectacle that's going on. Yeah. Can we hear this again? Because I find it very entertaining. Yes. Now remember, you are not hearing. I will maintain and continue to say, if you break the law, you're not oppressed. And enforcing the law is not oppression. So with that. Police identify this woman and say she's in the country illegally. Ice agents move in. Here's her reaction. Listen. No.

Help me! I don't know how to make it! I have my pavement, no! I have my mother! She's a human being! I don't know what to say about it. I just think, you know, all these people go, oh, she's a human being. Show mercy on her. She's a criminal, folks. She's broken the law. They're enforcing the law. And that's how that works. I, you know, the thing that I find, again, Nobody wants to, if you look at Mayor Menon Hall and even the Salt Lake County, the council's statement, they just kind of miss all the facts. They don't tell you her name. Her name is Marta Render Ronderos, Livia. She's 39 years old. She's been here illegally since February 19th of 2020. She is going to be detained by ICE and she's going to be sent back to El Salvador. This information we see because we have a reporter that's reporting it. They continue to say, we're asking for information. We want context. We want to understand. They are pushing out there a narrative and they have a video where they're trying to show something that looks disturbing, that looks like it could be wrong. Sure it would be. If you don't have the relevant information, the relevant information was made available about it. At the same time, we saw the Aaron Mennonauts, Mayor Menonanol, try to make this sound like it's something it's not. It is not something heartless. It's not something merciless. It is enforcing federal law, which we should all want. We should want all of our laws enforced, shouldn't we? I mean, if we don't support lawlessness, then we want the enforcement of law. Yeah. That's kind of the gig. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you're in the country illegally, folks. Now, I know the Democrats are now saying, well, you know, it's not a criminal offense. It is not illegal to be in this country illegally. Oh, yeah, it is actually. They can keep saying that. You can repeat that lie enough. It's still not true. Yeah, see, this just goes along with what we're seeing all around the country, the stories of ICE agents going into schools and arresting children. Yeah, that's. Of ICE agents throwing babies with zip ties on. And into vans, disappearing. Into their vans, arresting mothers. Well, let me, you know, this is just the fear factor they're trying to create. And the attacks on ice agents, the number today is up like 8,000 percent on ice agents. Yeah. And we wonder why. Well, it's, yeah, it's the, it's these inaccurate and really, I think, inflammatory narratives that are being pushed out by people who should know better. I mean, if she wants her, you ever go to that airport? It's a recording of Aaron Mendenhall, Loop. Welcome to Salt Lake City. I hear her voice. The entire 10 miles, I have to walk inside that airport. I got to hear her welcoming me. I'm not even welcome. I don't feel welcome. I'm trying to get out of here or trying to get home. But you hear her do this. She.

knows better than to try and attach such a false narrative to this incident that happened at the airport yesterday. And I'm just, I'm just proud of ICE agents doing this. It's a tough job that they're doing. They have a lot of people that are trying to demonize them as they're trying to enforce federal law. And again, You're not, if you're a criminal, you are not the oppressed. And if you're forcing the law, that is not oppression. You know what I was just wondering, if her welcoming message was playing while this woman was being arrested. I were welcome to Salt Lake City. And if you're under arrest, we have on, we have plainclothes ice agents ready to greet you at the baggage claim. All right. We want to get your reaction to this. The mayor jumping right into it without knowing all the facts. Very typical. 8885708010. on your cell phone dial pound 250 and say hey rod or leave us a comment on our talkback line by downloading the iart radio app your calls and comments coming up and boy does she throw a hissy fit boy she was not pleased she was not happy about this of course our mayor is now jumping in say this arrest is going to have a major impact on our community man it wasn't having a major impact on people trying to get in that tsa line we're trying to find their luggage everybody was just kind of on a on a high pace They're all leaving. They're leaving. I didn't see the, you know, I just didn't see the crowds now. You know, maybe they were there. But the person, whatever, you know, Heidi Hatch from KTV, she showed a video. She, she recognized you provided the videos that she could put online. But the video I watched of that, man, people were just, again, more looky-lose on a, on a. Flat tire on I-15 than on this incident last night. All right. Let's get your reaction to it. Lines are open to you. 888-57080-10 on your cell phone. Dow Pound 250 or leave us a comment on our talkback line. Let's go to the phones. We begin in Ogden with Nathan tonight here on the Rodin' Greg Show. Nathan, how are you? Thanks for joining us. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. Yeah, just listening to that clip gets my blood boiling. I don't know about anybody else, but living in this world where everyone feels so entitled and her screaming and causing a scene, I just getting so tired that these guys running around, causing a scene, thinking that they deserve. to be here. I'm just sitting here, like, rooting for these ice, ice guys, because I don't know how they have the patients to deal with this. And, and what the Salt Lake Mayor is doing, not shocking. Things like this is just another thing the Democrats like to do. Yeah. Just twist, withhold information. Just. I don't know. I'm sorry. It just gets me self-fed. Well, what upsets me, Nathan, and thank you for your call, is these government leaders. And our governor, by the way, is very good at this as well, getting online almost instantly and saying something without having any of the facts behind them. And that's what Aaron Mendenal did. Yeah, and I think a little time, I mean, we found it so quickly in terms of it being reported the accurate details. And once you know the details and know that she had had a deportation order, a removal order.

uh since february 19th of 2020 i don't know uh where uh you i don't know how this is a heart wrenching moment this is someone that's broken the law okay let's go back to the call let's go back to our callers let's go to jeff in riverton jeff welcome to the rod and gregg show Hey, thanks for letting me on your radio show, guys. Just wanted to call in. I was listening. Yes. And I don't know the whole background. This is the first I've heard of the incident. And I don't know if she's a drug dealer or if she just was somebody looking for a better life and snuck into the country. And I'm a MAGA through and true. But when I heard the screaming, I didn't hear somebody just throwing a dizzy fit. I heard fear. And I was actually kind of set back that you guys would laugh at her. Because her life is destroyed now. She's going to get kicked out. No, no. Who's the reason? Yes, she goes. Jeff, wait a minute. But it sounded like pure fear, and you're laughing at her. Well, let me explain my opinion. People can laugh like this is great. That's not compassion. That was mean. There's fear in her. Like you say, you sense fear? She's fearful because she's got to go back to where she came from. She is in this country illegally. I know. She knows it and she's got to go back there. And are we supposed to feel sorry for? You mocked her. Yeah, I did. I certainly did, Jeff. And I'll tell you why. I feel so bad for her. I don't. And I don't think, I don't think your compassion is misplaced because I think what's happening here is that because this is such a politically volatile issue. You get to see it. But the people that shoplift, the people that break other laws. And when law enforcement comes and apprehends them, the reactions span the gamut in terms of being afraid or upset. If you were afraid of every criminal act and every law enforcement that apprehends someone who committed a criminal act, that confuses me because, again, there's consequences to these crimes. If you get supported. Yes. But you were mocking her by laughing at her. Well, I do. I do think that the color, yeah. She made a mistake. She's trying to get the better life, but, you know, that really, she was ordered. Jeff, five years ago, she was told she was here illegal. Five years. Yeah. You got to read. I know. We are reading the room. But you know, she's. She doesn't want to go back to the hellhole. Sure, she doesn't want to go back to it. And we're reading the room. The American people are sick and tired of this. Yeah, and here's the fact, okay? There are so many people that live around this planet that would love to come here and think that our laws apply. and that they have to follow those laws. And it keeps them from being here. If we have compassion or we want to show compassion, we want to have an immigration process that makes sense, that's clear that you can get here. I've always been one to say a tall wall and a wide gate. That said, if I'm living in this country now and you're hearing new information that we were letting people through because unskilled labor is just beneath Americans. They won't do it. I don't believe that.

But that's what we're said. Now we see so many H1B1 visas that's skilled labor. We're not smart enough to do. What does that leave our working class, our young people? If we're too good to do the unskilled labor and we're not smart enough to do the skilled labor, what are we supposed to do with the young people that are emerging in trying to find jobs in this country? I think there's something going on here where we really have to stare at this, and we can't. It's faux compassion. When someone has been here and they've been for five years. Go let your meter expire for five minutes and see how much compassion when you get the ticket and you don't pay it within so many days. It gets even worse from there. Five years she's been here and she's known she's been here illegally. It's never done anything. I believe as the first caller said, they are looking to call attention to themselves. And that's what she did. to create this, this, you know, this false compassion for someone who doesn't deserve it. The compassion we should have are for people that follow the law and have and aren't able to get in this country or are in this country legally and have the problems that illegal immigration is causing, whether it be our schools, our public safety, our jobs, our housing, healthcare, healthcare. Look at this, the snap benefits that have spiked since the illegal immigration has happened in this country. That costs. Those costs are something we should have compassion about and feel badly that many Americans are suffering because of it. All right. More your calls, more your talk about comments coming up right here on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. I am telling you that when we watch this play out, the screaming, the weeping, the wailing, if you've committed a crime, there is a consequence to that. And if they scream and all of a sudden, We're supposed to have some kind of, it's misplaced compassion. That's all I'll say. They're not oppressed. When you break the law, you are not oppressed. And enforcing the law is not oppression. Let's go to our callers. Let's go to Lee, who's been waiting. Thank you for waiting. Lee from Nephi. Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky, and America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me, which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-I-Hart or go to iHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or iHeartadvertising.com. Hi there. So let me tell you, I'm flabbergasted. I don't understand this.

You know, this lady breaks the law. She comes in our country. She under false pretenses. Then she refuses to leave. So I'm a truck driver. And one of the big issues plaguing to our industry right now is you have Mexican nationals coming across the border with loads from Mexico and then staying and using their truck for Mexico to transport goods across our country and not leaving as they're supposed to leave. Yeah. And it's going rampant. You know, and so they're breaking the law. Yeah. And there's no consequences for it. Well, maybe if we screamed loud enough, we would be more, it would be more compassion for us if we just scream bloody murder. Maybe we just need to start screaming, Lee. We've got to scream more. And then all of a sudden, the facts won't matter anymore. We'll just feel this faux compassion because, you know, I mean, I'm with you. I'm with you, Lee. Thank you for the call. They're taking, they're taking food off our tables. and sending it to Mexico to their families. Well, we've got Americans that are working that have gone through the process and living our lives and following the rules and doing what we're supposed to be doing. But, you know what? Hey, I like what Trump's doing. I like the ICE movement. I think it's way overdue. Yes, sir. We're with you on that one, Lee. Let's go back to the phones. We go to Harriman. Hear what Ryan has to say on us tonight. Way in on this. Ryan, welcome to the show. Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I want to try to state this as concisely as possible. And kind of Greg did a great job of rebutting that caller, Jeff, who called in saying that, you know, there needs to be compassion. He felt that you guys laughed when he shouldn't have. And I just, I just want to state this. Justice, right? There has to be justice. If we want to be compassionate about everything. And so we create injustice for someone else, like the truck driver who just was talking. And so we're being compassionate, but we've totally thrown justice, you know, out of the car. Then there's always going to be some American citizen somewhere who is being treated unjustly because of compassion. And we can't ever let compassion override justice or we don't have society. We don't have rules. And I just want to say, if people want to be compassionate, if there's someone out there who really wants to be compassionate, they can sponsor an illegal alien and bring them into their home. And that's, if they want to show compassion, that's what they can do without taking away someone else's opportunity for work or, you know, someone else's opportunity. And so I just... That's the point I wanted to make is that we can't let compassion override justice. We have to have justice. in order to have a society that works. Yeah, Ryan, that is a great point. Compassion over justice. We cannot, as Ryan just said, Greg, we cannot allow that to happen. And unfortunately, it is happening in today's society. And it's a manipulative effort because you get the media that really wants to draw hyper attention to some circumstances. And again, the millions of people that have been led in this country and the dire consequences of the people that have no hyper attention towards and the injustice that they're living through.

That's where our full attention and real compassion ought to be shown. How about the compassion, Greg, real quick, for the person who's in this country illegally, driving under the influence of alcohol, running into another vehicle in American and killing them? How much compassion should we have for that person? None whatsoever. If they scream that they're getting arrested, should we be upset about that? I'm telling you that, again, I think, and I think that her tantrum really was. meant to draw the attention because you see this pattern across this country in terms of how they're doing it and they play the media like a fiddle. Okay, let's go to Lyndon and speak with Linda. Linda in London. Linda, you're in Lyndon. Hi. Welcome to the Rodding Greg show. How are you, Linda? I'm good. I love your show, you guys. Oh, thanks. Secondly, I feel like this. We're all being taxed and we're $38 trillion in debt, right? Mm-hmm. So much of that money is going to illegal aliens, and I feel like we need to go through the voter rolls, identify the Democrats, and let them pay the difference. There you go. I like that. I like that idea, Linda. Linda is a smart lady. She is very smart. I like that. All right, let's go to Orham and hear what Hector has to say tonight here on the Rotting Greg Show. Hector, how are you? Way in on this one. I'm good. Thanks, guys. Hey, I'm a long-time listener, a huge fan, since even before Greg Hughes was a guest commentator. But I think you're great to show. Greg. My point is this is I totally agree with everything you guys are saying. I think this person, if you're here illegally, you need to go. And whether or not you have a terrible situation to go back to, I'm sorry, but we just, we can't afford to help everybody in the world. My only thing is that out of the years I've been listening, I have never felt, how do I say this, kind of ashamed. And that was because of the laughter. I agree that they need to go and we're not here to support anybody that's here illegally. But I feel almost like if it were back in old Jerusalem times that we had stones ready to throw, you know, you got to enforce the law, but to laugh at the person, you know, just felt a little bit wrong. And I just want to say that. I just was a little ashamed to be a fan of the show at that point. I'm still a fan, still going to listen to you guys. I like the straight talk, Hector. Thank you for calling. And thanks for making your point. I appreciate the straight talk. I'll just put some context at least in my mind. I'm watching a lot of this. We get ready for the show every day. We watch this happening playing out in Chicago. We watch it happening in Portland. We see it happening all over. And a lot of what I saw in that video looks much like what I'm seeing elsewhere. And there is, in my mind, I am. I am not compassionate about what I'm seeing because we see the consequences of what's happening. And I think that what she was doing was an attempt to draw that kind of attention. She's not being harmed. She's not being, she might not like what's happening. She obviously didn't. But when, but what's happening to the, to the everyday people as a consequence to the way the borders have been opened and the way it's impacted our country, it just.

That's where my concern really lies. And when I saw her acting out the way she was, I didn't think it was actually sincere at all. I think it's what they're doing. And to what has happened to the American people for this surge, what, 10 million people in four years? It's not a laughing matter, folks. And we're just pointing that out. Maybe we laugh because we don't want to cry. Maybe that's it. That could be. That could be. All right. More of your calls, and we've got some talkback comments coming up as well on the Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio 105.9, KNRS. John, thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rod and Greg show. What do you think of this? Yeah, hey, things are taking the call. Real quick, just the point that I wanted to express is that why would somebody want to go back when they're getting a free ride here in our country in terms of health care, cost of living expenses, credit card, you know, handovers. cell phone usage, et cetera. So, yeah, I would scream too. And so, yeah, that's lappable, right? Yes. Seriously. And I'm with you 100% on that. So, in fact, when I heard it, I laughed. I just busted out. I'm like, no one, yeah, of course. But let me say this, though, this is my point. I pay around $250 a month for my family insurance coverage. I had to take last couple of years ago, my, well, my daughter's achiever that she broke her finger, had to take her to the emergency room. So that deductible is a $3,000 deductible. on top of what I pay every month. Do you think my insurance went down because I went to the hospital? My payment then, I was paying 300 on the deductible to meet that. So monthly, I was paying in total 250 plus three. That's $550 a month for insurance. I'd stream too. Yeah. You're right, John. And I was going to ask, how many of us know or how many of us have lived through very difficult financial times that are not like the circumstances that people are getting as they come in here illegally. Okay, let's go to Scott in St. George. Must be listening on an Iheart radio app. Scott, welcome to the Rod and Greg show. Thank you. I still call you Governor Hughes if it's okay with you. Thank you, Scott. Thank you. I went to your victory party up north, so I was one of those guys. Thank you, brother. You're welcome. I respect you. Thank you. This compassion thing is just getting so old. Anybody that does anything, we're supposed to be compassionate. And then I can't help but to draw the parallel that Zohran Mamdani is going to have state-owned grocery stores, and that's compassion. And we have this ridiculous health system in America that's state-owned, and that's for compassion.

And our SNAP benefits are 40 million people, and that's compassion. And I just, I'm just getting nauseated over this absurd argument. Does that make sense? It sure does. You are spot on, Scott. And we are getting sick and tired of it. I'm with you on that as well. Let's go to Judy and sunset tonight on the Rodin' Greg show. Hi, Judy. How are you? Oh, I've had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck? Brett Ski, I got you. I've had so much luck on SpinQuest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just $10 bucks. $10 for 30. I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with Iheart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-844-I-Hart. I just can agree with everybody. Hey, um, when that man said, ashamed, it made me sick, actually. And I wanted to laugh at him. There is nothing, uh, that is, uh, funny about what's done to our country are, uh, our money are all of our services. Um, just what everybody else has been talking about. We have been just shoved into the ground because of all the illegals that you are here. sucking up all of our money, Medicaid and everything. So when she's out there throwing her little tizzy, just like I said, she's trying to say, look at me, look at me, help me, help me. No, what's going to help her? Are you kidding me? And they, and what the funny thing is what no one has said, she was at the baggage claim. Sounds to me like she took some kind of a nice little vacation and was coming back. Uh-huh. Yeah. and spending whatever money she's probably got with assistance and stuff and going, visiting people. And I haven't been able to take a trip. Yeah, that are struggling. Folks, we have a couple that are holding on the line. We'd love to have, we're going to come to a break here at the top of the hour. We'd love to come back to your calls. Talk about this. We've got some great talk back live. Comments we'd like to share, too. Great comment. I just read online, too. They want to do a trade. We'll actually keep this woman. We'll do this for every lib. If we can send a crazy lib to... There we go. Deport them. We'll keep it, we'll keep an illegal mom here. How about that? We'll call it a citizen exchange. Yes. We'll take an illegal. We'll get a Democrat. The fake, you know, humanitarian, send them out, and we'll keep this person here. I'll make that trade. Yeah, you get the socialist. We'll take the illegal. All right. We'll do that. I'll do that trade. I like that. All right. Like you said, we've got a lot of calls. We've got a lot of comments on our talkback line. Folks hang with us. If you can't give us call back, we'd love to hear what you have to say. That's coming up. Our number three of the routing.

break short. Stay with us. I've got up to her, arrested her, and she threw a fit. You know, a great comment from someone that's also seen the video. It points out something that we haven't really described as we're trying to describe this on the radio, the scene that we're, that I, look, I'm laughing and it's true because I think it's a spectacle and I think it's contrived what she's doing. This person commenting says that this person is resisting arrest. They're not just screaming as they're being hauled out. They are trying to get away. They are resisting. uh what the officers are trying to do when you're resisting the arrest you're creating your own problems uh these ice officers are human beings as well yes and she is throwing herself on the ground she is just absolutely going crazy and it's really again it is uh it is just as difficult when you're resisting arrest and throwing this tantrum and uh yeah it's uh i my compassion is not going towards that person. A lot of people waiting and want to weigh in now. So let's get right back to the calls. We go to Pleasant Grove and see what Rick has to say. Rick, how are you? Thanks for joining us. Hi, guys. I've worked with cops from my adult life, and a lot of people don't understand the criminal mind. They will walk into a convenience store, kick down your door, put a gun in your face, talk smack, threatened to kill you, it hurt you, steal from you. And the second, I mean the second that someone gets an upper hand, a law enforcement officer or you, then all of a sudden they turn into, oh, please don't. Don't take me. And I didn't mean it. I'm sorry. I was just, I just brought the gun to try to keep you calm. I, they will act one way when they're in control and act like the victim. the minute that they lose that control. I don't know this woman, but I wonder if she had four years to comply and just say, all right, you caught me. I'm sorry, I'll go back and do it the right way. My guess is that she probably falls into that category. Good point, Rick. Thank you for pointing that. Look, we're paying. We're paying for people to go back. I mean, there's a financial opportunity to go back. If you go back on your own, I think he's exactly right. Let's go to Matt. I'm sorry, Mitt in Spanish Fork. Mitt, welcome to the Rodding Greg show. Hi, hi, guys. Thanks for taking my call. I really enjoyed your show. Well, I just wanted to comment on this lady getting arrested at the airport. You know, if you're an adult and you get caught,

with your hand in the cookie jar, just like a child, you know, and then you throw a tempered tantrum, you know, because you got caught and you're acting stupid. Of course, people are going to laugh at you, you know. Did you guys remember that TV show America's dumbest criminals? Nobody ever felt bad for these criminals, you know, nobody, you know. We all watch these videos. We laughed because what they were doing, it was stupid. they were breaking the law, right? So I think the same applies, right? In the situation, now, I know, I know people who, um, they became legal immigrants because they went through the whole process, maybe at some point and they broke the law, but they went through the process. They, they, they paid the fines. They. They got deported. They went back to their countries. They waited for as long as it was necessary to come back to their states legally, and now they are legally in the country. So if you make a mistake on it, you know, and then go through the process, pay the price, and welcome to America, right? You're right, you know. Med hit it. I forgot the commercial success of the shows that showed these people acting out when they got caught as criminals. And how about the show cops? I never saw anyone. That's not a sob story. You don't watch the show cops and cry for the people that get arrested on cops. Okay, let's go to Keaton and Kearns. Keaton, thank you for holding. Welcome to the Roddy Greg Show. Hey, thanks for having me. Yeah, I just wanted to say my wife is from Mexico and she did come legally. And we've worked very hard to try and build a life together. And we have three boys. And so it's a lot of work. It is. And my wife and I have had many discussions about how she would never want to go back to Mexico just because of how bad things were there. And she says that even our schools, our public schools here that are not considered great. are still better than the schools that they have down there. And there's so many more opportunities that you still get to choose your classes. And so I can kind of see why it is that they're so eager to get into this country, but also just trying to do it. Can I ask you a question real quick? You followed the law, and it's not an easy law to follow. There's a sponsorship for two years when someone comes into the country. There's a, I mean, I have spoken at the citizen, you know, the naturalization ceremonies that have occurred and people are so excited. They're from all over the world, but they've gone through such a really rigorous process to get to get to that spot. Do you or your family? Do you ever look at those that come in illegally without the two-year sponsorship and get immediate benefits and see all these rewards for not following the same laws you do? How do you digest that? I mean, is that something you resent? Is that something that is fine for you? I mean, I'm just curious. Because you're someone that has actually followed this tough process. No, it was, it is kind of hard because we.

We didn't have the money to even turn in the paperwork for a while, so we had to work our butts off, and it's a long process. We couldn't afford a lawyer, so we had to go to the free clinics they have here in Utah and just keep working on it little by little. And so for a little while, we've had to use some of those benefits, but we always saw the government benefits as this is something to help us get to a more stable place where we can. provide for our family on our own. Yeah, Keaton, thank you. Thank you for the call. Thanks for the perspective. They were using some of our benefits, but they were trying not to. They were trying to become citizen of this country. That I can understand. Keaton spotted a trajectory of how they were going to be productive and they're going to be good productive citizens. And again, I've spoken at the naturalization ceremonies. It's one of the most emotional at the capital ceremonies I've ever attended. So I think it's a. You do it the right way, and things are good, and it's as it should be. ERA, let's play a few of those talkback messages back. Let's hear some of the comments that came in today as we talked about this subject. Rod and Greg, this is Clint. And to paraphrase Cool Hand Luke, what we have here is failure to communicate. What she got is what she wanted. She's known for years. She was here illegally, and she needed to leave. And I'd have screamed too. if the law finally caught up with me. So more people need to see this video. So they... self-deport yeah yeah thank you thank you that's good coming and i forgot uh great a point that you made that the you know how many commercials do you see with Kristi Noem saying hey we invite you to leave the country we'll pay you to leave the country and then make it easier for you to come back into the country legally if you leave on your own you're not going to get held it's not going to be held against you you can then apply to come back in and they're even given financial incentives to do so so i think that that video i think he's right too that clint's right about that that I think moments like this should really be sobering to those that are here illegally to go back and do it the right way. Here's another comment on a talkback line. Oh, please. You guys were laughing because the woman was being a drama queen. And for those guys to call and say, Oh, I'm offended because you laughed. Get a grip. I mean, the woman was being a drama queen. It's ridiculous. You know, some of our listeners are so spot on. They nail it. She gets me. Thank you. Thank you. Here's another comment on the talkback line. And Greg, just want to say I think the compassion a little bit is missing, but I agree I'm 100% MAGA, but I think that's why a lot of people get triggered because if Trump would have said, you know, something like, we know these are good people or they're just looking for a better life, they just can't be here, they need to come into the country legally. That's a little bit softer message and it still gets the same result, my opinion.

That's a take. That's a take. Here's another talkback comment. You know, I was driving on I-15 the other day, and there was this reckless driver going in and out of kit traffic, speeding and all that. And the cop got him, lit him up and pulled him over. And do you know what I remember thinking? I was just like, oh, poor guy, that's going to mess of his day. You know, I really need to have sympathy for this guy that was breaking the law. No. I laughed. He got what he deserved. He broke the law. Yeah. He broke the law. He gets it. We didn't have any compassion for that guy. No, well, no one. I'll be getting another talkback comment. ERA, he's got another one. Let's play it. What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and you know what's more American than America's 250th birthday? Supporting American-owned companies like SpinQuest, America's number one social casino with over 1,000 games like Live Dealer Blackjack and Craps. They're offering new users a $30 coin package for just $10. Go to SpinQuest.com and sign up today. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Boydware prohibited, visit SpendQuest.com for more details. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me, which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-Ehart or go to IHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or IHeartadvertising.com. Rod and Greg. That last caller talking about fear in her voice. If there's any fear in her voice and her screaming, it's because the left has indoctrinated her that ICE is going to take her and put her in a gulag or something. It's not fear because of anything else. It's fear because she's been lied to by the left. Yeah. And she has been lied to by the law. I mean, Joe Biden said, Joe Biden said, come here. You know, we welcome you. You know, what were the T-shirts during his election in 2020? Biden for president. Remember those T-shirts? They were handing them out to illegals. Yeah. No, it's, it was all, they did it on purpose. All right. We got one more comment. Yeah, one more comment. Hey Rod and Greg, I agree 100% that the lady should have been kicked out of the country. You have to obey the laws and you don't obey the law, then you know, you face the consequences. I also agree that we probably shouldn't be laughing at it.

Yeah, no, look, I'm surprised by that reaction that they thought we were being a little callous, but I love the takes, and I hope that our audience always feels comfortable to, you know, give us our feedback. I love it. I love good, honest discussion. It's good. I think we found one more. Here are you, right? Go ahead and play it. Hey, fellows, first off, I laughed along with you. I think that's the best emotion for that. Secondly, I firmly agree that no one else gets to see what happens with policing on practically any other crime. I think that was an astute observation. Thank you. Well, thank you, sir. You're a very astute observation. I just think the left has done a great job of manipulating people in terms of making victims out of those that aren't victims. The oppressed are not, you know, criminals are not oppressed and enforcing the law is not oppression. I'm going to keep saying it because that's the truth. More coming up. It is the Thursday evening edition of The Rod and Greg Show on Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. We've had the calls. We've had the talk back lives. Yeah, it's been fun. Some of our great listeners have been disappointed in us, but some of our listeners, I'd say more than those that are disappointed, kind of understand us. They kind of get it. And again, I think, you know, I think that resisting arrest, acting this way, the acting out that's going on, it's playing out and around this country. And I don't think it's a natural response. I think it's meant to draw that attention and evoke that emotion that. I think it's manipulative. I think one of our callers said that has experience with law enforcement, that that's what people do. Well, since we've been accused of laughing at someone's, shall we continue? Oh, please. Let's. Shall we laugh at Kamala Harris? Yes, I like that one. Let's try that one. Apparently, she's on a world tour selling her book. Well, is she still doing this? What is it? 107 Days of Misery. Yeah, that book, I wouldn't read it. Well, she decided to do an interview with the Australian version of the BBC. I think it was Sky News, wasn't it? Something like that. I might have been Sky. I don't know who was. The interviewer was Sarah Ferguson. Not the Sarah Ferguson world thinking. This is a journalist, a good journalist, because she wasn't afraid to call Kamala Harris out about not raising questions about Joe Biden's ability to not only be president, but run for president. Listen to this exchange and it's getting a lot of attention today. Wasn't Joe Biden then to put it on him, wasn't his refusal to recognize his own frailties, the reason that you faced a nearly impossible task. I ran against Donald Trump for president. And Donald Trump ran on a high.

a platform that was in large part, I believe, misrepresenting his intentions to the American people. Now, I'm, forgive me. And a truncated calendar in terms of the clock. I want to interrupt you because that is a world-class pivot, but it is not the question that I asked you, which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize his own frailties and what that did to you. The question is about... Joe Biden, are you still reluctant to criticize the former president? In what regard, please? Well, just in terms of that question. So you went on... What exactly would you like to ask? Be more specific, if you don't mind. She was specific. Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his own frailties in that position that put you in a position that made it almost impossible to win that race? He was not frail as president of the United States. But he had frailties. We all saw the debate. I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to be president of the United States, and I have never doubted that he had the capacity to be president of the United States. Wow. Pivot! Pivot!

That's from friends. They were trying to move a large couch. Yeah, they're trying to get a couch up the stairs. Talk about a pivot, Greg. Well, she's still saying, I mean, many people say that when they asked her, what would you do differently than Joe Biden? Or they asked her to just contrast herself to Joe Biden because she took his place on the ticket late. And she wouldn't do it. Many people say that's one of the biggest reasons why people didn't have any confidence in her. Here we are how much time later, 11 months later or more. And she still can't articulate that. She's still saying he's sharp as attack. He's fine. He's absolutely fine. What is this House report that came out just a couple of days ago? And all these people who were very close to Joe Biden are now saying, yeah, we had some issues. We didn't want them. We had to get him a nap. We, you know, we didn't put too much on them. We, you know, we even thought about getting a wheelchair to get him through the White House. I mean, and she didn't see this. She wasn't aware of this. Yeah, the auto pen was all based on the fact that he couldn't cognitively understand the issues that he was required to make decisions on, be it, you know, executive orders or pardons or whatever would require the signature of the president. You'd like to think the president would actually be the one making that decision. They're basically saying that he wasn't, and so they were, they knew his intent. So they were going and using that auto pen. That doesn't sound like the person that Kamala Harris just described to that Australian reporter. No, that's for sure.

Pivot! World-class pivot. I love that term. That was a world-class pivot. We're going to have to keep that because we have politicians pivoting all the time. So we want to have to keep that one. Let's keep that. All right. More coming up. Final half hour of the Rod and Greg show with you on this very busy Thursday afternoon on Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. Do you get a lot of kids coming to your house? Not as many. It used to be a ton now. It's not as many. The neighborhood's kind of aging out. Do you like haunted houses? I used to love them. I hate them. I used to love them. As a kid, I loved them. And then I, even as an adult, I didn't mind them. Then I went to one that was super elaborate. And I went, it was a little over the top. It was the last time I went. It was like a haunted field and like a, I don't know, abandoned circus or something. I don't know. It was creepy. If I have a failing, and I have many, but one of my failings is I'm easily startled. Yeah, and that is their wheelhouse. Just absolutely scaring you out of your shoes. And that's what they do. Apparently do a real good job. They up their game from when I was a kid, I'll tell you. All right. There is a debate now with these AI data centers and the pressure they're now putting on America's power needs and our ability to produce power. And that's why the president has launched an effort to make America. energy dominant. Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about that is Clifford May. He is the founder and president of the Foundation for Defense of Democracy. It's a columnist with the Washington Times. Clifford, thanks for joining us. America needs energy dominance. Exactly what does that mean, Clifford? The first thing to recognize is that national security. requires energy security and more than energy security, more than energy independence. We're talking energy dominance because energy is a huge force in the world. And if we don't control it, who will? And I'll tell you the answer to that question, it will be the communist Chinese because that's what they intend to do is to control energy around the world as best they can. And energy is important for many things. I would argue, and I do argue in this column, that when we talk about American greatness, we need to define what that means. And I think it means the maintenance of American power second to none in a world where despotic regimes, not least that of China, threaten free nations. And so what we're talking about is we should have, and we can because we, thanks for fracking and other things, we should have the fossil fuels we need for ourselves. for our allies. We should have effective control of markets. We need, I would also argue, control essentially, and certainly for our own needs, of critical minerals. And here's, I guess, the important thing. And the mistake that was made in the Biden administration is that energy policy became a subsidiary of climate policy. And that was because that administration, not least John Kerry, who held the title of Special Presidential Envoy for Climate, a position that no longer exists. He believed that climate change was, to quote him now, the existential challenge of our time. And I think that's been very much debunked. And because of that, he was willing to do things that would essentially, and a lot of Europeans have, deindustrialize and weaken the United States in order that we have.

fewer emissions of carbon dioxide. So we can go to all that, but basically we need a huge amount of energy. Energy is wealth, energy is power. Energy is necessary for artificial intelligence where we have an arms race going on because enormous amounts of energy are necessary for the data centers that can power artificial intelligence. You know, Clever, let's talk about California. There was a recent post. It was just yesterday by our energy secretary, Chris Wright. And actually, golfer Phil Mickelson commented on it and it got a very, got a lot of attention. It's a wonkish issue that you like to see people actually tracking and paying attention to. But it was pointed out in that post and the subsequent comments that California is killing us. They are so irresponsible. They're shutting down refineries, not renewing them. They're prohibiting offshore drilling that this has a national security threat in terms of how we even fuel our military bases. But we in the state of Utah are fueling it where they are not a supplier of fuel as they used to be. We're seeing our refineries in Utah being drawn into surrounding states. And if you notice, our western states are some of the most expensive gasoline prices in the country. I guess I say that as the background of this question. What are we in the world are we going to do as a country about California and how mismanaged it is and how it's really destroying our energy dominance? Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. Well, it's a good question. I think it's a question that Chris Wright, he's the vice chairman of something new under the Trump administration called the National Energy Dominance Council. It's like a National Security Council for Energy, and actually Chris Wright, and also Doug Burgum, who's the Secretary of the Interior, are...

and Doug is the chairman of this council, they're both also on the National Security Council. So I think what we're going to need in this case are federal regulations to prevent the California from doing things that are damaging to other Americans. I guess if the people of California want to pay $7 a gallon for gas, they can do it. I guess if they want to say everybody here has to have a plug-in electric vehicle and not we're going to ban internal combustion engines they can do it but by the way california won't have enough electricity for all those cars and that will mean people will be taking bicycles and buses as best they can to get around it's a and by the way they will have no impact whatsoever on the climate none whatsoever if you're worried about co2 emissions i'm not so worried but we can talk about that if you are understand that china emits more CO2 and other emissions as well than America and all of Europe combined. Wow. Combined. So whatever, you know, if everybody stopped driving cars tomorrow in California, the global climate would not be affected in any way you could measure. Clifford, we hear this a lot lately. How much is the development of AI putting pressure on America's power needs? You hear some scary numbers at time, but how much pressure realistically is it putting on our need for energy? It's huge. It's absolutely enormous. It's phenomenal. The technology may change over time, but right now, the data centers we need for AI require enormous amounts of energy, and we must provide it, because the last thing we want is for, again, the Communist Party of China, to be ahead of us in AI. Vladimir Putin is a tyrant, but he's not dumb. That's stupid. And he has said, and I think correctly, that whoever leads in AI will dominate the world in the future. Now, one way to do this, and this is what are we going to do? Nuclear power plants, particularly small, modular nuclear plants, take up very little land. emit nothing whatsoever. That can be an answer. They can provide the kind of electricity we need if we cure ourselves of the various red tape and regulatory prohibitions and restrictions that now exist. Again, I think the National Energy Dominance Council, that's one of the many things that they will be working on so that we can dominate an AI. Keep in mind that if one army has AI and it's good and one army has AI and it's better. It is the latter army that's going to win the battle.

Hey, China, you know, I thought the big thing would be being a net exporter of oil and gas, but we are, but that doesn't seem to solve this. It gets us maybe a little bit better. My question is, President's coming back from a trip negotiating with China. Looks like there was some headway made there with rare minerals and other things. What should we see or what should we expect to see where we see that we're gaining ground on energy dominance in this world? What are those tails will they look like? Well, the tells are that we are producing a lot of, a lot more. fossil fuels than we were. Keep in mind under the Biden administration, he was trying to prevent that. He was saying we're going to keep the hydrocarbons in the ground. There were restrictions. There were mandates. There were subsidies for electric vehicles, all of that. He closed down the pipeline from Canada, which is very useful. We should do more with Canada and Mexico in terms of... both fossil fuels and rare earths. They exist in both countries. We could have an agreement to help with that. President Trump has gotten agreements now with Malaysia on rare earths and also Australia. It takes time. We need to get rid of, again, red tape and restrictions so that mines can be up and running very quickly, not take 10 years or 20 years is sometimes the case. We need to be able to process these. China dominates, totally dominates the field of rare earths, not because they have a lot of them. They don't. They get a lot of them from other countries, often doing terrible environmental degradation to those countries, particularly in Africa. Then they bring them over and they process them. Processing takes quite a bit of energy as well. China uses coal for that. Coal is the most polluting if you're not using scrubbers. We use scrubbers. China doesn't so much. So all that has to be done. But this is why we have a national energy dominance council is to figure all this out. Clifford, thanks for joining us here on the Rod and Greg show on this Thursday evening. I would think, Greg, we're getting, we've got to be getting pretty close to energy dominance. No, California. No, California is the millstone around our neck. That state is bringing us down. They are, I am telling you, the energy demands that state requires, the energy they cannot create, that on their own, by their own choice, that everybody else has to pick up the slack, they are killing us out here. I am so mad at California right now. But, hey, Lee Zeldin is going to clean up all the sewage in the Tijuana. Hallelujah. That was announced this morning. They're going to fast track those projects in Mexico. It's going to take a year. It's going to take a year. All those Democrats are supposed to be into the environment. They've let that ocean be a toilet off of San Diego. And it takes Lee Zeldin and the Trump administration to clean it up. So there's that. So I'm mad at California, but that's actually some good news. Yeah, that is for you.

For me. All right. More coming up. Final segment of the Rod and Greg show with you on this Thursday right here on Talk Radio 105.9, KNRS. New York City, always been called the city that never sleeps. Yes. Didn't Sinatra sing that? Something like that. And he also said if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere. That's true. That's true. That's true. Well, apparently, it is about ready to wake up in fear. New poll shows that many New Yorkers are predicting the city will become a violent cesspool if, what do you call them? Zoolander. Zoolander, Zohran Mamdani. Is it next week or the following week? Don't know the date. I think it's next week. Yeah. Disturbing polls shows that many New Yorkers who do not support Zohran Mamdani are convinced he's going to destroy America's greatest city. The economy will cave. There'll be shockwaves around the rest of the country. Violent criminals will be roaming the streets. Yeah, you know, it's so hard to protect New Yorkers from themselves. When you read the demographics and you find a number one job, private sector job is a nonprofit. That's not actually private sector. That's something, but it's not. I just, that is a tough town to be worried about for me. Yeah. I'm not, you know. I mean, they've made their own bed. They have. Yeah. And I used to love to go to New York and visit New York. I'm no longer interested. I don't care. You know, my kid, he served an LDS mission there. And I got to see the boroughs and went back there. We've been back there since he's been back. You know, I got to know the city a little bit better. But look, that city is everything it's purported itself to be and it's wanted to be. I mean, Giuliani as mayor, those days are long gone. So. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens. We'll see. I think it'd be a great lesson in socialism if he's able to try and do what he wants to do and it doesn't succeed. And I think there's a lesson to be learned there. Yeah. Yeah. The other day of that big rally from Zohran Mamdani, who is it? Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that statement. We are not the crazy people. We are the sane people. Yeah. Remember she said that. Can I give you a life hack as a former public servant? And you're on the campaign trail, and part of your stump speech is I am not crazy. I am not insane. You don't say that. It's not a really good place to start because it's just what everybody hears is I'm insane. Yeah. I'm crazy. Yeah. Well, apparently, the public doesn't feel that way. Back in 19, 2013, I should say, 51% of the American people felt that the Democrats were out of touch. That was 2013. Twelve years later. 70% of the American people feel that the Democrats are out of touch. When I saw the Antifa and Black Live Matters kind of protest rallies, whatever you want to call them, and they were in Brooklyn where everybody's a Democrat. There's no Republican to be found, and they're harassing the people at the restaurant and eating the food. They were sitting outside eating the food off their plates and giving them a hard time. That's Democrat on Democrat violence there.

I don't know. It's just like, okay. Have fun. Okay. And one study out, you and I are lucky that we don't have to deal with rush hour traffic. No, we don't. Good. Which is kind of great because apparently there's study out saying that Utah are in fact spending more time in traffic now. Well, more time to listen to Rod and Greg show. Hey, there's an idea. Which I think is a wise use of time. Kind of like that. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. New report says Salt Lake commuters now spend 58 hours per year stuck in traffic. How many hours are we on a week? Maybe there should be more. 15? 58 seems a little thin to me. I think they should be on longer. Yeah. I have never felt this city as a traffic. You've driven in big cities. I've driven in L.A. and New York. is a disaster. I don't consider Saul like having a traffic problem. You know, there's certain times a day where there is. Maybe. Look, you can't keep building lanes for those times of day because we don't have a right to go 80 miles an hour from our front door to our final destination 24-7. I thought we did. No, we don't. I like that right. I do. All right, that does it for us tonight. Head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your family of this great country of ours. Happy Halloween. And we'll be here tomorrow. See you then. What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and we're driving through the States in the BluffMobile, and the best thing that we can do is play our favorite casino-style games on SpinQuest. They have over a thousand games, including Live Dealer Blackjack and Crops, with tons of slots and unlimited options. You can get a $30 coin pack for just $10 for new users. Sign up today. Go to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visitspinquest.com for more details. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me, which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-Ehart or go to IHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or IHeartadvertising.com.