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We welcome you aboard on a Thursday afternoon. It is the Dan O'Donnell show, but it is Jason Gotts sitting in for Dan O'Donnell for the next couple of days. Pleasure to keep the big chair warm for the rest of the week. And B with News Talk 1130, W-I-S-N and 1310 W-I-B-A-N-Madison. If you want to find me on social media, you're always welcome to do so at Jason G-A-S-O-N-G-O-C-H on that last name spelling. A little tricky last name for your humble host, so I always like to spell it out if you do want to find me on social media. And we've got a loaded show for you here today. Lots to get into hypocritical Democrats right here in Wisconsin. I'm going to prove it later on in the show. It's no surprise, but I like it when they throw it out there so we can lay it out a concrete example of the Democrats being hypocritical. Also, big story regarding that boat strike, the second boat strike, Admiral Bradley testifying before Congress today. The truth? And then the Democrats' alternative facts. We'll talk about that. The progressives, alternative facts. But before we do any of that, let's get right to probably I would think the biggest story of the day, at least it is in my mind. Shocking news, I guess, if you really think about this, the pipe bomber, alleged pipe bomber. Remember this story before the quote unquote attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021, that on the night of January 5th, it was uncovered that there were pipe bombs. found outside the DNC and the RNC headquarters. Pretty big story there that that would have happened, but no one was ever caught for that alleged crime. And what happened was the case kind of sat there cold for a few years. We had the January 6th committee about, you know, grandma's parading in the Capitol. We got to throw her in the dungeon, D.C. jail. But the pipe bomber, that never really came up in all these hearings before Congress, the January 6th committee didn't seem to focus on it. But lo and behold, you get a new FBI director, you get a new attorney general, and you get new top deputies at the FBI. And the report today came out right around lunchtime that, Brian Cole Jr., again, he is the suspect here. He's not been convicted. I always like to say that when we get into stories about people being arrested because we've seen over the years, to be fair, that the wrong person in high profile cases has been arrested and eventually exonerated. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen here. I'm not saying this is a conspiracy. What I'm saying is you always want to get that out there that this is an alleged... Person who did this. This person has been charged. There could be more charges on the way. He's 30 years old. He's from Virginia. And he's going to make his first court appearance a Friday in Washington, D.C. Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, others at the FBI today and the DOJ did a big press conference. And Pam Bondi.

had this to say regarding the arrest of the alleged pipe bomber. What I will tell you is that evidence has been sitting there collecting dust. This wasn't a new tip. It wasn't some new evidence. It was the hard work of President Trump's administration. Deputy Director Dan Bongino and Director Kash Patel. I watched them from day one come in here and say, we are going to solve this crime. And they did working hand in hand with U.S. Attorney Piro and all of our great attorneys. Now, this is the part of the story that I find most interesting. Thank goodness those pipe bombs did not detonate. According to law enforcement sources, they do say that those pipe bombs were dangerous. Now, others have reported that they weren't actually armed. Again, that's all stuff that they did not get into today officially on the record. We're going to learn that probably in the days and weeks and months and as the trial unfolds here for Brian Cole. But... The most intriguing part of this case for me of what happened here today was that this evidence was sitting for years in possession of the DOJ, the FBI, whoever, they had possession of this evidence. And why wasn't this case vigorously pursued before President Trump took over again in January of 2025? Now, it took several months for them to get this guy, obviously. You got to, you know, dot the eyes, cross the T's. You want to make sure if you're going to arrest somebody that they at least believe that this is the guy who did it. But how come for four years this was not a focus of the Biden administration? You think about January 6th. Look, they lied consistently about January 6th. It was a, were there a few knuckleheads out there? Absolutely. Were there people who did wrong there? Absolutely. But that this was some type of insurrection against the United States government? No, it wasn't. There were no weapons at January 6th. That's the ironic part here. The only weapon by non-law enforcement officials on January 6th or the evening of January 5th that really could have hurt somebody and really was even there. You think about just January 6 people. They weren't armed. They were guys that were pushing cops and picking up garbage cans, maybe a fire extinguisher, not excusing that behavior. But they didn't come to the January 6th protest and whatever you want to call it to the Capitol. They did not come to that. with the idea that they were trying to overturn the government. They wanted their voice heard regarding what were widespread in their mind election irregularities on the day the election was supposed to be certified, the 2020 presidential election. But this was actually, if one of these pipe bombs or both of them had gone off, there's a very good chance, sadly.

If this would have happened, that somebody would have been hurt or worse. Thank goodness it did not happen. But you would think Merrick Garland at the Justice Department. You would think Christopher Ray in charge of the FBI that the pipe bomber would be the Senate. And the January 6th committee. How can I leave them out? But you would think that this pipe bomber would be the focus. of the investigation. You would think that they would say, well, you know, the grandma parading around with the American flag and the Donald Trump button in the Capitol Rotunda, she shouldn't have been in there, but let's face it, grandma wasn't going to do anything. But no, that was their focus. It was people paraded. People were arrested in charge and thrown in jail for parading in the Capitol. Well, apparently there was evidence there that led to the arrest of the pipe bomber today, Brian Cole, the alleged pipe bomber. And what happens? It happens when Donald Trump takes over as the president and a new FBI director and a new attorney general are in charge. But for four years, they sat on this stuff. And was there any updates on this case? No. Was there any progress in the case? Not that we know of. They didn't seem to care. And I find that really, really intriguing. Liz Cheney, who was above the fray, she was a Republican who was on the side of democracy. Adam Kinzinger, who couldn't wait to lecture. anybody who wouldn't say that January 6 was the worst day or one of the worst days in American history. But they let this pipe bomber case just kind of simmer. It wasn't even a big part of what they were doing as far as any investigations go. Now, why do you think that was the case? I have my own suspicions. And I'm guessing many of you in the audience have your own suspicions, too. Now, there are reports out there that this person, and this is even MS now, I won't make the mistake of calling MSNBC anymore, but there's reports from even MS now that says that this person had left-leaning tendencies. Apparently there were writings, other sources, they were writing. This was a left-leaning individual, possibly connected to Antifa, which is just an idea. Remember, Antifa, it doesn't exist. It's just an idea. Even though you go see those ice facilities in Portland and on the West Coast, and there are people carrying the Antifa banners, but somehow they thought it doesn't exist. Joe Biden told me that during one of the presidential debates back in 2020, Antifa does not exist. And you think about. how they dismiss the idea of left-wing terrorism. They always say Antifa doesn't exist, even though you can see on TV what's going on. And then lo and behold, this pipe bomber guy was never found or the alleged pipe bomber, and now you have the case completely turned upside down. And what I think you can really look at and say, the politicization.

of the FBI and the DOJ under President Biden. And when the Democrats are in charge, I mean, they were still arresting people three and four years later for January 6th. They arrested people for January 6th. that were not even there, that were supposedly conspirators to overthrow the government. Again, I don't know how you overthrow the government if you know weapons. But they were supposedly involved in some big conspiracy. They weren't even there to overthrow the government. Yet the pipe bomber case kind of just simmers underneath the surface. So this is good news, though. This is good news. Hopefully, if there is more to this case, that they will be able to... discover any connections that are going on regarding this individual, if this is indeed the guy, and others who could be involved in this. It's great to see. What is great to see, though, is that the DOJ and the FBI, it's not the politicization of those two things right now. We're not seeing that. And from the top on down, I mean, President Trump. I'll get to the story a little bit later on. But President Trump, you think about Henry Quayar, the congressman from Texas. One of the congressmen, his districts along the border, he's a Democrat. He was indicted by the Biden administration, by the DOJ for alleged wrongdoings. And earlier this week, what a President Trump say, no, that was politicized by the previous administration, even though he's a Democrat, even though I'm a Republican, what they didn't do to this guy, or what they tried to do to him, and now we're not going to do to him. That is not right. That is something that you look at and you say, no. I don't care about politics. Guys got a family. Guys trying to serve his country. We don't agree politically. But we're not going to go ahead and we're not going to prosecute this guy because the case isn't there in the president's mind. And same thing earlier this year with Eric Adams. I mean, Eric Adams is no friend to President Trump. Eric Adams still kept New York City a sanctuary city. Eric Adams, though, did during the Biden administration have the audacity to say, you know, that border? They got to do something about it. We can't handle all these migrants up here in New York. We can't do it. They got to close that border. It's taking our resources, a moment of candor from a left-wing Democrat, not a crazy, but a traditional left-wing Democrat. And what happens? All of a sudden, indicted is Eric Adams for alleged improprieties. And President Trump looked at that case and he said, you know what, this happened right after Eric Adams spoke out against the Biden administration of the border. So I think what you're seeing now is what we want to see. from the DOJ and also from the FBI. They're actually trying to get the real story in these cases. They're trying to get the true justice is the best way to put, look at this. And instead of politics and partisan politics playing a role in this, no, they're trying to get the people who actually did the wrongdoing. And again, in this case, for January 6th, when you think about it.

This is the scariest thing to me that happened in the whole sequence of January 5th into January 6th. It wasn't people marching to the Capitol. It wasn't even people breaking into the Capitol. Yeah, there were some bad things there. But a bomb being outside the DNC and RNC headquarters? That's, I mean, look, that's a scary, scary thing to have happened. And for the previous administration to basically what it sounded like from the cut we heard from Pam Bondi is that. They were ignoring it. They just put it. Hey, put it in the cold case file. We don't have to worry about it. You have to wonder if this person who was arrested today, Brian Cole, if his political allegiance or his political activities played a role in how aggressively, let's just put it that way, how aggressively the DOJ. and the FBI decided to pursue this case. I think it's a question worth asking, and I'm very, very suspicious that that's exactly what happened and why this case was solved in December of 2025 or allegedly solved in December of 2025, rather than solved, maybe in... February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December of January 2021, 2022, 2022, 2023, or 2024. So if you want to jump in on Envious, you're always welcome to do so. The advent knows.com talk and text line open for you, 414-799 1130. Again, 414-799 1130. It is Jason Gotts in for Dan O'Donnell News. Talk 1130 WISN, also 1310 WIBA in Madison. little bit more about the pipe bomber story as the day goes on, but that's the big details of it right now. I mean, that was the press conference. That was the most interesting thing. The audio you heard from Pam Bondi saying, yeah, the previous people who were investigating this, the evidence was all sitting there, and we just put it together and got a breakthrough in the case. And here we are today with the announced indictment of this individual, Brian Cole, 30 years old, from Virginia. So that's one of the big stories of the day. Another big story, Admiral Bradley before Congress. on the boat strike of the boat that was carrying drugs, the high of P. Pete Hegseth on down said, this was a narco boat. These were narco terrorists, the second strike. We're going to talk about total hypocrisy and in our next segment about this and also the mainstream media. It must have hurt this person to report. What is the truth on this case? But we're going to hear that audio. You're going to hear Democrats go completely and progressives the wrong way, say insane stuff. We've got that coming up for you. Got some fun stories. You're not going to believe later in the show who stole some alcohol and got drunk on it. I'll leave it at that. But it's not who you think. You'd never guess it a million years. We've got that story coming up right here in Wisconsin. Right here in Wisconsin, I said at the top of the show, hypocrisy on steroids from the Democratic Party. This story actually infuriates me. We're going to talk about that next hour. So much to do, and we're doing it with you. It's Jason Gotch on a Thursday in for Dan O'Donnell. News Talk 1130 WISN, also 1310, WIBA in Madison.

For Dan O'Donnell, Christmas music always puts me in a good mood. It's just a wonderful time of year. It really does. I mean, listening to Dan when he's hosting his show or playing the Christmas music or me or any of the other great guest hosts here, News Talk 1130, WISN, Jason Gotts with you also 1310, WIBA and Madison. But my wife loves Christmas music in the car, in the house, the kids love it. I mean, it just, the best thing about Christmas music is you only get it for. You know, well, now, I mean, geez, they started in early November, but you only get it for a couple months out of the year. You can't play Christmas music in the middle of July. I mean, if you go to a Fourth of July party and some guys, hey, let's bust out the Christmas music. No, it doesn't work. But this season snows outside. There's decorations everywhere. Hopefully your house is decorated in some way. The house just feels better when it's decorated, too. It just does. We go from the Halloween decorations right into the Christmas decorations. I'll talk a little bit more about that on tomorrow's show. When's the appropriate time to put up the Christmas decorations? I push the limit. I do. I push the limit with that on the early start. I have my reasons. I've got a lot to do today, but we'll get into that a little bit on tomorrow's show. But always great to have the Christmas music bumping us back into the program. And always great to be with you. Again, Jason got you. for Dan O'Donnell. If you want to find me on social media, on or off the air, at Jason Gotch, G-O-C-H on that last name spelling, on Twitter slash X handle. I always say Twitter, I should be saying just X, but Twitter X, so you get the idea. People who aren't in the Elon Musk Twitter age yet, knowing it had changed to X. It's X, Twitter, whatever you call it, you can find me there. Now, Big Story had the first segment on... How today the pipe bomber, allegedly, a 30-year-old man, Brian Cole from Virginia, was arrested. He's been charged. There could be more charges. This is from that, the pipe bombs that were found outside the DNC and the RNC on the night of January 5th. So right before January 6th, 2021, when all the... The big incident happened at the Capitol, but the pipe bomb story kind of faded into the sunset, and now we have somebody charged with that crime. But there's another big story today. Admiral Bradley, we've been following this story in the news now for a few weeks. The strike on the narco-terrorist boat in the Caribbean, the military and the intelligence sources said, hey, this is a boat that was being... piloted by people who are trying to smuggle drugs in the United States. And President Trump has declared these people, narco terrorists and the military went and there were two strikes that day. One on the boat. And then a second one, some are saying it was on survivors in the water. Others are saying it was on the boat. So Admiral Brett to make sure the drugs didn't get in the country. But the truth is coming out on this. The Washington Post ran with a story, hey, this was Pete Hegseth. He ordered people who were in the water defense list. He ordered the military to strike these people dead. He killed people who were unarmed at the time. And this violates the Geneva Convention and every UN regulation of all time. And the Democrats have just been running with this story.

And it's amazing how that story came out right after the seditious six as well. So you get the seditious six, then all of a sudden the Washington Post story comes out about this allegedly illegal strike on the boat to back up what the seditious six said about if you're in the military, you don't have to, you know, those illegal orders, you don't have to be one who goes ahead and then carries those out because that could go on your record too, by the way. Have a nice day. That was with our far-left-wing six people in Congress when they filmed that video. And as I said, the Washington Post comes out with this story. Then the Democrats just start absolutely hammering Pete Hegseth, hammering the administration. And here's some of the things that were said by the left-wingers. Let's start with Representative Adam Smith from the state of Washington. Listen close here. It's only about 10 seconds. He actually said this. People on a boat in the middle of the Caribbean. Carrying cocaine are not a direct threat to the lives of our service members or Americans. You know what? Eric, play that one more time. Just for effect. Let's play that again. People on a boat in the middle of the Caribbean, carrying cocaine are not a direct threat to the lives of our service members or Americans. Did I miss? Where cocaine is good for you? Did I miss where cocaine is not something that could kill you or as killed countless Americans? It is a very dangerous illegal drug. Even at a point where people who want to legalize pot. and people who don't want to legalize pot, you know, you've got a lot of people debating that issue in various states, and it's been debated even nationally. Nobody says, I mean, well, far, far, Oregon tried to legalize all drugs, but almost nobody says, hey, you know what, we didn't make cocaine legal. Let's put it back in Coca-Cola like it was back in, you know, 1900, make cocaine legal. He just said that... People who are bringing cocaine into our country flooding the streets with cocaine, that that's not a danger to American citizens? I mean, how delusional do you? And he's been in office like, oh my goodness, I think he got elected in 96. The guy's been in office 30 years. It's not like he just got in office. He's on some Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who got in in the mid-20s doesn't know really anything that's going on because it's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and she's clueless. She hasn't had a lot of life experience and she doesn't want to listen and learn. She'd just rather rant. like a lunatic from stuff she read online. But this person actually knows what's going on with this country. I mean, you drive through some places in this country. It's very sad. It's not just cocaine. Obviously, a lot of places it isn't. But illegal drugs have decimated a younger generation in this country. They have decimated small and immediate emsized towns in this country. And that's a whole, I mean, we can do a whole study on why that's why people turn to drugs, the despair. I'm not excusing it. But the point is bringing cocaine into the country illegal.

does hurt American citizens. This guy should be ashamed of himself. Now, here's more on the strikes, though. Seth Moulton is a representative. We're going to go to Seth Moulton. We're going to go out of order here, okay? We're going to go to Seth Moulton next, because he is a representative from Massachusetts. He's actually a Marine veteran. He's gotten more loony if you followed him the last couple of years. He was more mainstream several years ago. Now he's a loon. He had this to say about Pete Hegseth and the boats. Congressman, I wonder what you make of what the White House is saying. To what Caitlin just pointed out, I mean, they are saying what Admiral Bradley did. There was nothing wrong with it. But they're making it very clear. They're putting the focus on Admiral Bradley, not on the reporting by the Washington Post that Pete Hegseth is the one who said essentially killed them all. What's very clear is they're throwing the Admiral under the bus. That's exactly what's going on. This administration has no respect for our uniformed services. We've known that from the very beginning, and that's exactly what they're showing right now. Absolutely ridiculous. First off, the truth has actually come out. What he said, no respect for the military people. Are you kidding me? How is it not respectful of the military people? They're carrying out a strike against narco-terrorists. They're carrying out. The boat was still there. They were trying to get back on the boat. These narco-terrorists probably saved the cocaine shipment. And then there was a second strike. And that's all come out now. We'll get to that in a second. More on that. But one more here. Leon Panetta. He worked in the CIA under Barack Obama. Leon Panetta. I mean, this guy worked as defense secretary for Barack Obama. This guy, Barack Obama was drone striking American citizens in the Middle East. He was drone striking American citizens and a lot of other people in the name of national security. Now, we could debate if that was a good or bad thing. Some would say, hey, you know what? Better safe than sorry. Barack might have got that one right. Others would say he crossed the line. violating the rules of warfare with the drone strikes. But this guy was involved with that. And here's what he had to say about President Trump's actions against the narco terrorists. There is no lawyer that I'm aware of who indicates that that second strike is not a war crime. These are individuals in the water who were wounded. It is against the law to strike and kill those individuals. They did that. As far as I'm concerned, there is a war crime involved here, and it's for that reason that I think we need to hold people accountable. Again, the guy who was directly involved in drone-striking American citizens and drone-striking a lot of people outside the rules of engagement of traditional warfare just went on MS now.

and told you he thinks that it's a war crime that we struck a narco-terrorist boat because we may have struck the people in the water on purpose. Now, that was a Washington Post report with anonymous sources, of course. Sometimes you've got to do anonymous sources. But a lot of times anonymous sources cover things that people want in the news cycle. There's not necessarily a truth behind them. Now, this had to hurt Martha Radditz. Does anybody watch ever the... ABC George Stephanopoulos Sunday morning show. My father, I don't know if he's listening. Dad, if you are, love you. Great to have you aboard. But my dad will call me on a Sunday. We'll talk midday a lot of. Did you watch ABC with George Stephanop. Martha Raddick, she's the worst. She is so and so. I'm like, Dad, I love you. But I'm not watching Martha Radditz regularly or George Stephanopoulos on a Sunday morning. I can't take that. Sunday morning is family time. I go to church. I'm not watching. I'll catch it later in the day, the highlights of the nonsense. But yeah, he's all it. Martha Raditz is that she is so far left wing. But Martha, it had a hurt. Here's what Martha Raditz reported earlier this week about the boat strikes. And the New York Times also had a different version than the Washington Post. Let's hear it. New information. According to a source familiar with the incident, the two survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike. They were believed to be potentially in communication with others and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets. A JAG officer was also giving legal advice. Completely contradicted everything that Panetta and Seth Moulton, the Washington Post, and all these other far-left-wing sources had to say about that incident. And the New York Times actually had this too, countering the Washington Post. Do you know how far in Cooksville that the Washington Post and these far-left progressive Democrats have to be when the New York Times? And ABC News and Martha Raddits are saying, whoa, whoa, stop. Wait a second. No, you, no, you guys got it wrong. Here's what actually happened. So Leon Panetta is saying they struck people in the water just to kill people because it's the big bad Trump administration. No, the New York Times reported it. Martha Raddits expounded ABC News put their name behind it that. The people in the water who were running the drugs climbed back onto the boat, maybe in communication with others to try and save the load of drugs, and then the second strike came. So the second strike was just to finish the first strike because these people were trying to deliver drugs. And... When they're both got struck, they said, oh, maybe they, maybe they forgot about us out here. Maybe they thought they got us. So let's get the drugs to the shore. Now, that second account makes a lot of sense. If you think about it from a evidence standpoint where it's not necessarily circumstantial, it's common sense evidence. The load of drugs on those boats, the value astronomical. It would make sense that the people running the drugs might be afraid of.

Their bosses that the boat got wrecked. They don't want to go home and say, hey, we lost all these drugs. And the drugs have a ton of value. So we're going to try and get back on the boat and bring the drugs to shore. But again, this is an illustration of how the media cycle works to push the progressive far left wing anti-Trump agenda on something that you would think, especially considering the history of Barack Obama and Leon Panetta and the Democrats and their use of drones. They might say, hey, well, you know what? certain things we agree with the Trump administration. We don't want illegal drugs flooding our streets. These people are running drugs. They're in international waters. Let's take them out. But no, they can't even agree on that. They're such hypocrites that they say, it's okay. Well, we're in office and we use drones and we can drone anybody that we say is a threat to America and we'll do it in the Middle East and we'll do it other places. And if it gets an American citizen here and there, they're doing bad things. But when President Trump applies it to people smuggling drugs in the country, what happens? It becomes a war crime based on the, again, this drives me nuts too about this topic. It becomes a war crime based on the reporting of the Washington Post, which we know is left to the old Soviet Kremlin on the political scale. I mean, the 1980 Soviets didn't have anything on what the Washington Post will push as far as the left-wing propaganda out there. So you get the idea. The truth, Admiral Bradley testified today. I think this story, it's probably going to stay in the news cycle, but I don't know how it does when you have mainstream left-wing news sources saying what was originally reported on this thing. It didn't actually, isn't actually what happened in the end when you look at the facts. And also, the tie-in for me that we had the seditious six. And then we had this story break, and then we had the Democrats running to every outlet that they could find to say this shows war crimes, this shows illegal activity by the Trump administration. They're always trying to get Pete Hegseth for some. Oh, he ordered the second strike. No, he didn't. Admiral Bradley did. He had a jag officer there saying that this was legal. This wasn't Pete Hegseth ordering anything. But they'll run with these stories, throw them in the news cycle, because you throw enough lies at the wall, you hope a few stick. And luckily in this case, it seems like the. record is being corrected. It is Jason Gotchen for Dan O'Donle. News Talk 1130 W-W-I-S-N-1310 W-I-B-A in Madison. We come back a little bit more on this story. Also, I'm going to get to this. Who stole the alcohol? A little bit later on in the hour. We're going to have some fun with that one. Great to have you aboard on a Thursday. Back with more after this. Welcome back. News Talk 1130 WISN, 1310, WIBA and Madison is the Dan O'Donnell show. But it's Jason Gotts sitting in today on Thursday, also on Friday. Then Dan is back with you next week. Great to have the honor to fill in for Dan. And if you want to reach me during the program, can always do so via...

X at Jason Gotts, G-O-C-H on the last name spelling on that X-slash Twitter handle. I love our listeners here. Our listeners on News Talk 1130, W-I-S-N, also 1310 W-I-B-A in Madison, all across the world on the I-Hard app. And even as host, I can be humbled because... Look, you do a lot of prep for these shows. It's my responsibility to people who give me the honor of sitting here. It's my responsibility to the listeners. It's my responsibility to myself. You always want to do your best in life, but even as hosts, sometimes things slip your mind. Mark writes the show, and he says not just all the stuff you were talking about. How about when Joe Biden... Drones striked an innocent family that was unloading barrels of fresh water right after the Abbey Gate debacle in Afghanistan when, what, a dozen American servicemen were killed with that botched evacuation in the first year of the Biden administration in Afghanistan, and nobody paid a price for it in the administration. Media didn't really pursue that. One of the dumbest decisions in American military history. by Joe Biden and his elite advisors, you know, they all went to Harvard, they all went to Yale, they all went to NYU, they have the pedigree on the wall, and they have the common sense of the average goldfish. They decided it was a good idea, oh, we're just going to randomly pull out of Afghanistan, we're going to go ahead and do it, and the Taliban and all of their friends will just be nice to us. Unlike someone like President Trump, who would lay down the law and say, we're to pull out in an orderly manner, and you cross the line one time. and what's going to happen. You're going to have a lot of trouble. You're not going to try it. And they wouldn't have tried it. But of course, with Joe Biden, they did. And then Joe Biden and his people decide, hey, we're going to drone strike. We'll just throw some drones out there. And they kill a family was unloading barrels of freshwater. Right after that whole debacle in the summer of 2021 when the servicemen were killed at the airport. But that's just another example. Is that a war crime in Leon Panetta's mind, former defense secretary and also involved with the Barack Obama CIA or all these other Democrats? Didn't see them calling for. war crime tribunals. But when Pete Hegseth and the U.S. military and President Trump strike a drug boat in the Caribbean that left-wing sources like ABC and the New York Times come out and say, okay, guess what? On second thought, we looked at this and we looked at all the evidence and people were climbing back onto the boats, ABC News Report. They were climbing back on the boats, Martha Raditz, and according to her sources, what happened? They were trying to salvage the drugs. That's exactly what happened. Now, real quick, I want you to hear Stephen Miller. We're going to go to Stephen Miller here. He was on Jesse Waters last night talking about this subject. The mission is take out the boat, stop the drugs, keep this vessel and its cargo from reaching our shore using lethal means. And our amazing military, the heroes of the United States Armed Forces did exactly that. President Trump, Secretary Pete Hegseth, and this entire government are committed to finally using our military to defend our people, our borders, our family, our culture, our history, our heritage to defend the United States. We're not going off, running around the Middle East, trying to build democracies.

in caves and deserts and in distant sands that have never known democracy, we're using the military to protect American security, American prosperity, American lives right here where we live, where our children live. There you go. That's Stephen Miller, exactly. Stephen Miller's great because he doesn't beat around the Bush. He gets right to the point, and that's exactly it. No nation building. Oh, we're going to go. We're going to go into Iran and building a functioning democracy or even when President Bush did it in Iraq. I mean, we haven't tried it in Iran, obviously, but that's instead of what President Trump did over the summer, which was take out the nuclear facilities, others say, let's go nation build there. It wasn't going to work. Not going to happen. Worry about the problems that are happening here at home. It is Jason Gotts in for Dan O'Donnell. News Talk, 1130 WISN, 1310 WIBA in Madison. You're never going to believe who stole the booze. I got that for you next. It's been a holiday story based on the end result from Breitbart. Virginia Liquor Store finds drunken raccoon passed out in bathroom. I'll give you the details here in a second. Jason got you in for Dan O'Donnell. News Talk 1130 WISN, 1310 WIBA, and Madison. Employees at a liquor store in Virginia discovered a drunken raccoon passed out in the bathroom after it broke into the establishment and partied a little too hard. Hanover County, Virginia Animal Protection and Shelter confirms that the raccoon drank multiple types of alcohol. on the Ashland ABC store shelves. It shows a picture of the raccoon basically passed out by the toilet and also bottles broken off the shelves. It rummaged through the store shelves, eventually passed out in the bathroom. The raccoon then taken to the shelter to sober up and was released back into the wild. The Facebook post from the shelter says after a few hours of sleep and zero signs of injury. He was safely released back in the wild, hoping having learned that breaking and entering is not the answer. They give a big shout out the animal protection people. But apparently this has happened before. In 2019 in Canada, a few raccoons were staggering around in the daylight, and they were wobbly, and it turns out that they had gotten drunk from eating too many fermented crab apples. Now, that one's a little more explainable, I would think. Okay. Animals, they eat fruit. Raccoons are scavengers. They'll eat anything they can find that's edible. But the raccoon actually breaking into the liquor store.

and knocking the bottles of booze off the shelves, and then you see the booze on the floor here in this black and white picture in front of me, and the raccoon drinks it up to the point he's passed out by the toilet. That's something like Hollywood couldn't even come up with a script like that. They really couldn't. I mean, you can write that that the raccoon would do that. But, I mean, who would have thought? Raccoons, I look, I actually like raccoons. I mean, they're trying to survive like the rest of us, but raccoons can be really feisty animals. You don't want to get cornered. by a raccoon. It's not something. When I was a kid, Somebody actually in the suburb I grew up in had called the police that they had been cornered going to their garbage cans by a feisty raccoon. And my mom's like, you've got to read this in the police. Who calls the cops because of, like, what are the cops going to do? Cite the raccoon for trespassing? Say, you're not allowed on Joe Smith's property on 1, 2, 3 main street. You're going to be ticketed. No, what's going to do anything to the raccoon? But, you know, somebody. That shows what kind of town I grew? up in middle class town but where i grew up there wasn't a lot going on so that people would call the police for stuff like that but this story it made me crack up when i was doing show prep last night i'm like this can't be real and then sure enough i see the raccoon passed out bottles of booze knocked down and the raccoon apparently had a very um just say i guess a fun evening for the raccoon probably experienced something it'll never experience again and hadn't experienced before Yes, producer Eric, he should have Wisconsin honorary citizenship to that Virginia raccoon here in the great state of Wisconsin. Jason got you in for Dan O'Donnell. We come back, a story that really does trouble me. Of all the things the progressives do, this one really, really, it tugs at my heartstrings. We're going to talk about that and a lot more in our number two. Sitting in on a Thursday, great to have you aboard in the holiday season. News Talk 1130 WISN, 1310, WIBA in Madison. The advent knows.com talking text line 414-799 1130. Again, 414 799 1130. If you want to jump in. To start this hour, I have to preface what I'm about to say because this topic is a very sensitive one for me. And I really have to... control myself and tone it down a little bit because of all the things the far left pushes. And there's a ton of bad ones. There's a ton of bad ones on their topic list. Boy, oh, boy. I mean, you think, I mean, we had in the first hour, we had the narco boats, we had Adam Smith, the representative for 30 years from the state of Washington, say that cocaine boats are not a threat to Americans. I mean, come on. Pushing illegal drugs like cocaine into the country. That's not a threat to Americans.

We had the January 6th story in the first hour about the night of January 5th leading into January 6th, the pipe bomber Brian Cole allegedly. He is the suspect. He has been charged in D.C. today. Pam Bondi press conference. Kash Patel was there. Dan Bongino was there. But. They said the evidence was just sitting there in the Justice Department and then the FBI and they just went through it and they uncovered this guy. And they're confident that this is the person in it. Again, allegedly, but they're confident enough to file charges and there's an indictment in this case and there could be more charges. Look, look, the idea of what they did to grandma parading in the Capitol, somebody wearing their uncle Sam hat walking around and throwing him in the gulag of the D.C. jail and forgetting the key. A lot of, I mean, the idea of men and women's sports, the idea of taxing you out of your homes. The idea of forcing COVID shots on you. We could do 10 hours. I could just go on and on and on. But you, the listeners, know the idea. You understand. You get the idea. You know where I'm going here. That they push a lot of very bad public policy, which in the end hurts ordinary citizens. But the topic of abortion is one that as someone who is pro-life, what they have done in the last six years, You talk about a violation of any type of ethics or morals or humanity. The Democratic Party, what they have pushed here is as evil as anything you're going to find on planet Earth. Look, in the old days, you had Bill Clinton saying abortion, safe, legal, and rare. You had people saying they're pro-choice early on in pregnancy. I don't necessarily agree with that. But I think people who... espouse those beliefs, not necessarily Clinton because I think he was just playing into the crowd, but the average citizen who says, hey, you know what, early on, there should be a choice for people, things happen. I don't agree. I believe life begins in conception, but I think those are generally good people. who maybe don't understand the issue as well or don't want to see the side of the issue that life begins on conception or their hearts in the right place, but they're really not in the right place on this issue, at least in my opinion. But what the Democrats have done with this issue, the idea of abortion until the baby is born. The idea of pushing abortion in many cases when it's beyond the point of fetal viability. The fetus can live outside the womb, but it's still a woman's choice. No, I mean, you have an unborn baby that can live outside the womb, and they're going to go ahead and say, it's okay to have an abortion. 30 weeks, 34 weeks. You think I'm lying to you. I got the documentation to prove this. But the Democratic Party, what you're about to hear is, you probably remember this from the vault, sadly. What I'm about to play is Governor Ralph Northam, the former governor of Virginia several years back. This was the late 2018, 2018, 2019. And when you listen to this cut, you're about to hear, I want you to know that.

Ralph Northrum, before he became governor, and he still is actually a doctor, he's a pediatric neurologist. And here's what he had to say about abortion. If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mothers. That's what Ralph Northrum, a pediatric neurologist, had to say about a botched abortion. The baby is out of the womb. The baby is alive. And then the mother and the doctor would have a discussion about what the mother wants to. And he says it like such a fine southern gentleman. He doesn't raise his voice. He talks very monotone like he's grandpa in the room, just saying some really nice things. He could sing a lullaby to a baby as he's saying this. What he just described you was infanticide. The baby is born outside. That is infanticide, what he just described. And did you ever hear one Democrat speak against this guy? One? I didn't. Maybe there was one. obscure state rep or state senator from some state that did it maybe maybe somebody out there some mayor but no one of any prominence said hey wait a second i'm a democrat and what he just said is evil that's infanticide no no no they circle the wagons oh he didn't mean it that way he was he he he didn't mean it that way that's not what he said well the laws are already there that would be illegal he didn't have to resign No, remember there was that blackface scandal where he was in the picture from the college yearbook and he still didn't have to resign from that. But look, this guy, how revolting and utterly evil what he said. But this is where the Democratic Party is now on abortion. Hey, the baby's out. You want a second choice. Let's do the infanticide part of it. Now, why do I bring this up here? Because it directly relates to what's going on right now in the state of Wisconsin. Now, this woman is also a governor candidate. I printed this up from urban Milwaukee, but look, all they did was copy and paste a press release from earlier this week. Senator Keldaroy's announces Pregnancy Loss Protection Act. She's running. Now, keep in mind, this woman is running for governor. Of course she is for Madison. Of course she is, of course. Look, I love the state of Wisconsin. Milwaukee's great. But Madison is, you do talk about to the left. We all know. I love our listeners on 1310, WIBA, but there's a lot of left-wingers in Madison that we don't want to get into statewide office or really in office at all.

How about this? This is what she announced. This law announces Pregnancy Lost Protection Act. She's putting this bill before the state senate. I'm going to skim this. I'm going to read you the important points. Today, State Senator Keldaroy has announced the introduction of legislation to protect Wisconsinites from prosecution after pregnancy loss. The Pregnancy Loss Protection Act. This legislation prohibits law enforcement officials from investigating pregnancy outcomes and protects women who experience pregnancy loss from criminal liability. She said this. This is a quote from her press release. Around the country, anti-abortion prosecutors are targeting women who have experienced miscarriages and stillbirths, adding to the mental and physical burden associated with pregnancy loss. In Wisconsin, Republican politicians in the state capital are circulating legislation to criminalize Wisconsinites for improperly disposing of a miscarriage. This Pregnancy Loss Protection Act ensures this is a reality and protects Wisconsinites ensuring they receive the dignity to heal from pregnancy loss without the fear of retribution or prosecution. All right, first of all I don't know any. Forget Wisconsin. We throw us in there. That's fine. Throw all 49 states. Throw Guam. Throw Puerto Rico. Where are they criminalizing people for improperly disposing? of a miscarriage. Nobody is doing that. Nobody is abortion and health care treatment after a miscarriage are two different things. I know somebody, not my family, but a friend of the family. Unfortunately, they had a situation where the baby died in the womb and the person had to go in. She had to get the baby taken out of there for health care reasons. But she was furious that the way they coded that in medically was abortion. She was just absolutely furious that that's the way they coded in. But that's the way they try and normalize it. So, well, you have to allow this to birth to because you could have a situation where a woman carries to eight months, eight and a half months. The baby doesn't make it. And then, well, we'll code that in. You know, the removal is the same as elective abortion. No, it is not. But so now, Kelder Royce, who's running for, again, for governor, now why she is as big a hypocrite as you are ever going to find on the planet. So on the surface, when you read this, hey, you know what? A woman, absolutely, any logical human being would say a baby dies in the womb. There's a situation where you have to get that baby out. Of course, you should be able to get that done at any point in the pregnancy process. The baby's been, is dead already, of course, absolutely. So it's non-existent problem. But if you want to put that on the book, something like that, okay, well, that sounds good in theory. But investigating pregnancy outcomes.

any pregnancy outcome. So you can't, of course, you shouldn't be able to investigate this, but what about an elective abortion at eight months in the process, which is not legal here in the state of Wisconsin, thankfully. But what about you can't investigate that either, all of a sudden, oh, it opens the door, Pandora's box is open. Now, She and her 15 or 14 total of 15 Democrats in the state Senate, her and 14 others, are the biggest hypocrites you're going to find on the planet because what happened back in November? A couple of Republican state senators. put up a bill which actually passed the state senate 18 to 15 along party lines that's important for this it passed the state senate along party lines and this bill was to clarify the difference and legal definition of abortion and how that is separate from miscarriage care. Abortion is one thing. Miscarriage care is another thing. There was a couple of state senators here. Quinn and Gobin. They put this bill out there because they said, and this is actually Wisconsin Public Radio, it's a left-leaning thing, but they have the quotes here. They said their proposal would dispel fears of what kind of care they can provide for pregnancies, health care providers. And they said, Quinn said, hey. We have to face the fact that things can go wrong and do during pregnancy. This bill would affirm that in the event Wisconsin laws protect the medical profession in this event, the mother's life, and the baby. And so this is, look, pretty clear. What she wants there is an open-ended, hey, anybody who gets an abortion for any reason you can't investigate. The Republicans put this bill up and it passed. It's never going to get signed by Tony Evers. He never signed something like this. But they at least pass through the state Senate before Keldaroy's wanted to pass her crazy open-ended backdoor of abortions to birth bill. This would say, hey, you know what? A miscarriage, you can do whatever you want up at the point the baby's delivered. You know, they're supposed to be delivered. You know, that's completely different. Abortion, they clarified it. They wanted to clarify it. And she voted no. Of course she did. Because it's the cycle of...

Anything in life that really matters as far as politics go when it comes to the Democrats, follow the money. Always follow the money. Always. Because. Big abortion, $500 for an abortion at any point. They throw tens of millions of dollars at Democratic and Progressive candidates. They roll in the dough. They check their morals and ethics at the door and they say eight and a half months in, you want to have an abortion? Go ahead and do it because we're going to get the money. Now, how could you, if you really cared about women who miscarry a pregnancy, how could you not vote for that bill in November that Kelderoy's and 14 Democrats voted against? It just clarifies it. That passes, goes through the assembly and passes. Evers puts his signature on it. That issue is resolved. There's no worry for any health care provider. None whatsoever. They say miscarriage, we quoted it in, we've got it here, we've got it documented. Doctors have signed off. We're going to remove the baby that passed away. Everything's good. No, they want to backdoor in abortion until birth. Now, you think I'm crazy on this one? You think I'm nuts? Right now in this country. There are nine states that have no regulation on abortion in the third trimester. The baby is alive and well outside the womb in the third trimester. They can survive. They're going to need medical care, but they can survive. California, Colorado, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington, D.C. to add a Washington, obviously not a state, but it's a legal entity in this country. They all allow abortions passed. 24 weeks or 20 weeks or 12 weeks and in Chicago how about this a lot of bad stuff comes out of Chicago doesn't how about this one well you this is the ultimate irony hope clinic based in Granite City, Illinois. I think that's near St. Louis. They're opening a second location in Chicago's Updown neighborhood. This was back on June 2nd. They advertise their all trimester abortions. That's what they do. All trimester abortions. Hope Clinic is now open in Chicago, Illinois. Expanding our care through all trimesters. And OMG couldn't be more excited. The humanity of these people. You're excited in the third trimester? To take a life that excites you?

Everyone deserves access to abortion care, whenever they need it. Because deciding and acting on what's best for you shouldn't be on anyone else's timeline. Yes, it should. The unborn baby should take precedence at some point. Definitely when viability is there. I think all the time, but I don't think you can be a reasonable person and say, oh, I think after 24 weeks a woman should be able to decide, yeah, second thought, I don't want to have a baby, even though I've got a baby that is viable in my womb. No, at that point. The baby's rights supersede the rights of the woman to make a decision. You had six months. You had five months. You had four months. But again, follow the money here. And this is a classic example of Democrat hypocrisy. I mean, they say they're about women's rights. They say they care about the poor woman with the miscarriage. They had a chance in November in the Wisconsin State Senate to clarify the language, abortion, care after a miscarriage. And what did they do? They voted no. Kelderoy's voted no. 14 of her Democrat comrades voted no. And then you get this guy. Where's the page? It's got in front of me here. All right. I've got to find the page. Chris Larson, listen to this guy. The arrogance, the condescension, the lack of regard for human life. In the womb. I mean, think about that. That's a life. Let people decide. Have freedom to be able to decide on the road. Stop trying to shame people who are seeking health care. Sorry, abortion in the third trimester. It's not health care, pal. It's killing a kid in the womb. And you know what? You like it. And the rest of your Democrat friends like it so much because you will do anything for money. anything and you know the 500 bucks for the abortion you know what happens goes right back a little bit of that in the coffers of the democratic party come election time because big abortion supports the democrats really sick stuff gets me fired up sad it does it makes me actually sad it gets me fired up but it also makes me very very sad when we come back we're going to do a little bit of a lighthearted topic in the next segment here because i got fired up there on that one you had to get i had to get that information out there but a little lighthearted topic What would you do if you had the chance to make a career decision that would get you a higher position, but you would have to walk out on the people that gave you the opportunity to resurrect your career? We're going to talk about that. Jason Got you in for Dan O'Donnell, News Talk 1130, WISN, 1310, WIBA, and Madison, back after this.

A Thursday afternoon, great to have you aboard. It's the Dan O'Donnell Show. It's Jason Gotts sitting in. I'm here today. I'm here tomorrow. Dan is back in the big chair on Monday. It is News Talk 1130 WISN and also 1310 WIBA in Madison. As we're all getting ready for Christmas, of course, Christmas also means, you know, we know the meaning of the season, the real meaning of the season, but we also know it's a time to spend a lot of money in this next story. It involves sports and money, but it's not about sports. This is not a sports station. The real meaning of this story is also... A lot more about money and loyalty. The advent knows.com talk and text line, 414-799, 1130. This is all hypothetical for people like me. And most of you in the audience, I don't know, maybe not everybody who knows, President Trump could be listening right now. There could be some really rich people listening that may have this type of decision. So last weekend, and this is the sports angle of it. It's a sports story, but again, it's a life story. So last weekend, Lane Kiffin. He was the head coach at Ole Miss. SEC, college football. They're having a really good year. Lane Kiffin has bounced around. He's been in demand over the years as a college football coach. He was an NFL coach with the Van Oakland Raiders, but his career trajectory kind of went down. He bottomed out. And then he got this job in Florida Atlantic, I believe he was at before that. And then he came to Ole Miss and kind of resurrected his career. But Lane Kiffin was in demand. around college football to take a higher profile job. Florida was pursuing them, but most notably LSU was pursuing them. And if you know anything about LSU football, LSU, you better win the national championship or come close to it or you're gone. The coach that was there that got fired earlier this year, Brian Kelly, I think he was there three plus years. He didn't get close to a national championship. They canned him. The previous coach was a guy named Ed Orgeron. Ed Orgeron won the championship in 2019. 2020 is a bad year. So-so year. 2021, not such a good year. He's gone. I mean, the guy won the championship, and two years later, they're ousting him. And the governor, he's Governor Landry, he's a Republican from Louisiana. He's getting involved in the coaching search. He's firing the athletic director, right, Brian Kelly. So, LSU, it's a crazy football school. I mean that, they love their football. They also got a lot of resources and money. So Ole Miss isn't that way. They're in the same conference. Lane Kiffin, though, LSU isn't a good team this year. Lane Kiffin's. Ole Miss team is heading to the college football playoff, but because of the way the college football coaches contracts are structured, it's not like this in the NFL, and also the way the calendar for recruiting players is structured, you don't wait until the season's over like the NFL or your team gets eliminated from the playoffs and then take another coaching job. You stick with your previous job through the playoffs if you're in the NFL. It doesn't work that way.

the way the system right now is set up in college football. These guys, a lot of times they leave. So Kiffin last weekend his team wins the final game against the rival Mississippi State. He's saying he's praying. He doesn't know what he's going to do. Is he going to leave for LSU and leave Old Miss, leave them hanging to go into the playoff with an interim coach or a new coach? He wants to do both. She wants to coach Ole Miss and take the LSU job ultimately is whatever he's speculating. So he takes the LSU job. Ole Miss says, no, we're not having an LSU guy coaching an Ole Miss team to quote Bo Schembeckler from years ago. We want a Michigan man coaching a Michigan team in 89 when Bill Frieder left for Arizona State. Steve Fisher took over, coached him in the tournament. They won the national championship. Glenn Rice was on that team if you're a basketball, a really good team. But Frieder leaves. Shembeckler says, no Arizona state man coaching in a Michigan team. I want a Michigan man coach in a Michigan team. LSU basically does the same thing. They promote the defensive coordinator. But Lane Kiffin, his contracted LSU, is for about $13 million a season. He was making $9 million a year at Ole Miss. So what would you do? Okay, the loyalty aspect, what would you do? Let's say you've got, you're in this situation. Would you leave for $4 million more and a higher profile job knowing that the people you quote unquote, I know, don't get mad at me, I know it's not really war. It's no disrespect to our veterans at all. But in football, I say, you went to war with these guys. You go to war with this group. You took them from the start of the season. You took them all the way. They win the national championship. And you walk out the door. You walk out the door for a higher profile job and $4 million more. Could you do that? If you want to chime in, advent knows.com talking text line, 414799-1130. Apply this to your regular life. If it's not life-changing money. Do you finish what you start? And I don't think, this sounds crazy, but I think when you make $9 million, and I am a capitalist, don't misunderstand. I do not begrudge Lane Kiffin if he wants to, if somebody wants to pay Lane Kiffin $1 billion, I do not begrudge him at all. But in the life situation, I couldn't walk out on that. I couldn't walk out on the people that I gave a commitment to. The people that I said, hey, you know what? I'm taking you guys from the start to the finish. I couldn't in life. This is more of a life story. It doesn't even involve sports. Like, you're always taught when you're a kid, your parents always get in your ear and they say, finish what you start. And it's a great life lesson. It really is. You quit and like, quitting is the worst thing you can do. And that's one thing, Jason gotchen for Dan O'Donnell, News Talk, 1130, WISN, 13, 10, WI, B, and Madison. I always tell me, you know what, if I make a commitment to you, I'm going to quit. Like, you might not like what I, you might say, hey, you know what, I'm coming over to your house tomorrow. And I am going to help you install the Christmas lights. And you say, okay, be there at 7.30. I'll show up at 7.29. I'll pull in the driveway. And I look.

And this job's going to take, you know, this is going to be a real hard thing. So, but, hey, I gave you my word. I'm going to try and install the Christmas. Like, you might not like what I do. You might say, you know what? On second talk, Jason, why don't you? Hey, you know, you got some things to do with the family. Why don't you go ahead and leave? But I'm going to do it. I'm going to honor my commitment to you. I couldn't imagine just walking out on a group of people that you make that commitment to at the start of the year. That would be the biggest thing. And it's really in anything in life, like you can't like. You can't just walk out. You can't. You got to stick with the people that you made that commitment to for one year. And what I would have told LSU is this if I was like, Kevin, look, I'm your first choice. You want your first choice or you want to deal with Brian Kelly again? You want to deal with these other people. No, you don't want to deal with them. You want to go ahead and deal. with me, and you can wait till our season's over, and then back channels, we'll make sure I'll be there, I'm giving you my word, I can't sing publicly, but I'll be there. But, I mean, loyalty is something that you don't really find as much of in the world, and not just sports, but in a lot of things going on. There's just not a lot of loyalty left. And the other side of this, though, there's one other side of this story. I mean, Lane Kiffin could use a guy by the name, I went to Northwestern, and a guy by the name of Pat Fitzgerald was the coach there for 20 years. This brings the left wing angle, brings it right into the story. So Pat Fitzger plays at Northwestern. He becomes the head coach there in 2006. The previous coach Randy Walker passes away in the offseason. Pat Fitzgerald does a good job at Northwestern. They win a lot of games. They went to a couple Big Ten championship games. And Pat Fitzgerald turned down great opportunities. Great operating. Notre Dame pursued him at one point. Michigan. No, I want to stay at little old Northwestern. You ain't winning a national championship in Northwestern. Those are places you could win titles. Now win a national championship at Northwestern. You're winning at Notre Dame. You win in a lot of other places that were talking. NFL teams, Chicago Bears at one point, maybe had some interest there. Mutual connection to Northwestern booster, part owner of the Bears. Pat Fitzhiel said no. No. Northwestern man. Stayed Northwestern. Stayed there almost 20 years. Summer of 2023, the Daily Northwestern. I went to Northwestern. The Daily Northwestern student newspaper has one purpose. If you are a cat person out there, you pick up the Daily Northwestern if you live by the campus, you line the kitty litter box every few days with that paper, and you've got your kitty litter box liner. That's what the Daily Northwestern is good for. Other than that, in journalism, it's impeccable. Northwestern's a great journalism school. The Daily Northwestern, it's a student-run newspaper with faculty advisors. It's really, it's just the gold standard of student journalism. It's a left-wing commie rag. I used to read that thing. I used to sit and be like, what left-wing propaganda am I going to read day? It's worse now. But they published a story with a bunch of anonymous sources in the summer of 2023 that Pat Fitzgerald knew about all this hazing going on in the program and he needed to be, you know, there was all this hazing, one-sided, and all these poor kids and these eighth stringers probably who.

decided they were disgruntled, they weren't getting on the field, run of the Daily Northwestern, all anonymous sources. And they forced Pat Fitzgerald out, even though an independent report cleared him prior to that. So if you're, if you're, if you're this guy, Lane Kiff, or anybody in this type of situation, the loyalty doesn't run both ways anymore, which is, is a little disappointing too. It really is because, I mean, Pat Fitzgerald this past summer got cleared of all that stuff by Northwestern. They admitted they, they, you know, they. Big settlements wasn't published, but they admitted that there was no factual evidence that he knew about any of this stuff going on. So they forced their coach out based on a left-wing newspaper report. A student newspaper, not even a real newspaper, a student paper. some pimply-faced kids running around print and stories that who knows if they were true. And apparently they weren't if Northwestern paid out a lot of money. But then now Fitzgerald just got the job at Michigan's day. But the point is it's not a sports station, not a sports. It's the idea that. Can you walk out and not finish something that you start? In the old days, you never do this. Like you could never, I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. You want to jump in advent knows.com talking text line 414799, 1130. Could you do it? I couldn't. I mean, but with the Fitzgerald angle, I guess maybe I can, I can understand a little bit how some people. would see this another way, or maybe even Lane Kiffin did. But story just struck me because you see it a lot nowadays. It's not like it's just not, you know, you make commitment to somebody. You don't always, a lot of people just don't live up to it. And it's, I guess it's the way of the new world. This is Jason Gotts in for Dan O'Donnell. News Talk 1130 WISN, 1310, WIBA in Madison. When we come back, President Trump. You're not going to, the left tries so hard to be President Trump. They try so hard. They will never be President Trump. And the smears they throw at him, they're just so dumb. There's no other way to put it. They're just so dumb. We'll get to that right after this. Outside, there's snow on the ground. You've got to get the Christmas presents bought. And I am very slow on that again this year. Thanksgiving being late, and I mean even only a few days, because a little later this year, what was it, the 27th of November. It just, I like it when it's like a couple days even before that because it gives you a little more time between Thanksgiving and Christmas. But it's, it's just, life moves at you fast, the older you get. I know that's a cliche. I argued with a friend about that one time. Like, no, it's not true. It does. He's got more going on. He's got more going on in your life. So you've got to get more done. I got a list. I got a list that could stretch the ceiling. It's ceiling's like 10 feet tall. Got about three things off that 10 foot long list that I got to get to before that I've got done that I've

to get to before December 25th. So I hope everybody's Christmas holiday season is going well right now. And I hope you're doing a lot better on your holiday list than I am. But I will catch up. I will. Dedicate myself to that here. Got to do it. There's no room for failure when it comes to the Christmas list and things to do. It is again, Jason Gotchen for Dan O'Donnell. Great to have you with us. News Talk 1130 WISN and 1310 WIBA and Madison. The Democratic Party. It's amazing. The one thing, let me set this up in a different way. I was going to go somewhere. We're going to call an audible. One thing in life I know, never try to be somebody else. It doesn't work, especially a big personality. I do this feeling show for Dan O'Donnell. I've done it for Benjamin Netanyahu Yount. I will do the show. I can't be them. They're great. They're awesome what they do. I can't be Rush Limbaugh. My opinion, the greatest of all time. You know, you name anybody. You've got to be yourself. If you try and mimic a person, you're just going to look like a fool. You're just the way it works. And the Democrats are falling right to that trap. Maybe that's good for Team R and my conservative beliefs and your conservative beliefs for the conservatives in the audience. For the lefties in the audience, maybe not so much. But the Democrats are rolling into the idea that we are going to try and mimic Donald Trump. Gavin Newsom's a tough guy. Jamie J.B. Pritzker's a tough guy. And they're going to mock Donald Trump and say he's not. They're going to say just blatant things that aren't true about him personally when everybody knows their lying about that because they see it every day. Earlier this week, Scott Bessent, the Treasury Secretary, great guy, by the way. He's got two cuts we're going to play. First one's going to be from the New York Times Symposium. Of all these rumors and reports over the last weeks and days and months that President Trump's fallen asleep in cabinet meetings, he's just Joe Biden. He's falling asleep. He's not paying attention. He's not really running the country anymore. They're trying to make him into Joe Biden. Now, anybody you've seen President Trump, especially Scott Bessent, knows that's not true. You had one of the greatest scandals of all time that the coverage of the Biden administration, Joe Biden's diminished capacity and the cover-up. And that's why it's probably fair to raise these questions. Where was in New York time? We just had a three-hour cabinet meeting yesterday, Andrew. For 10 months, the Biden administration did not have a cabinet meeting. How are you going to invoke the 25th Amendment? If the cabinet secretaries never see the president, which they didn't. I hear from people in the treasury building that I see President Trump more in a day than my predecessor saw Joe Biden in half a year. That was their little scam, the Democrats, the left, the Biden administration. Hey, you can't see the guy's basically a vegetable, so you're not going to invoke the 25th Amendment. Great point by Secretary Scott Bessent there. And then he was on Sean Hannity last night, and he expounded upon the vigor of President Trump even more. He'll call me, Scott.

I didn't wake you, did you? No, sir. I'm always awake at 152 on a Tuesday. And I can tell you, we did the trip to Alaska. We did a round trip one day. And we arrived back. The rest of the cabinet, Marco Rubio, Secretary Howard Lutnick, and I, our batteries are out. We land at Andrews, and the presidents look, oh, it's morning in Europe now. I think we had spent... probably 20 hours in the air in Alaska. And he said, let's start making phone calls and call the European leaders. So we had to sit on the, we set on the tarmac for two more hours while he made phone calls. He never stops working for the American people. And it's incredible. You don't have to like President Trump if you're on the left, if you're on the right, if you're on the Senate. But to blatantly lie about something that everybody can see, the guy is as vigorous as you're going to find. Look, he's what, 79 years old? I mean, I'm a middle-aged guy. And I remember watching the Trump rallies in 16 and 20 and 24. They always end. I believe in Grand – it's in Michigan, but I think every year, every election season, he ended the thing in Grand Rapids. And I went to one in 2020 when he was in Kenosha. It was before the Grand Rapids won. He was down in Kenosha at the airport. I was actually there with a buddy of mine. And – We always marvel, friends of mine and myself, my wife and I, like, this guy starts at 8 a.m. doing a rally. And I know, I know he flies, he gets flown places. I understand that he doesn't have to wash his own clothes, he doesn't cook his own food. But this guy will go hour and a half on stage and then go to a neck, do five rallies, and he's talking for seven hours at a podium. And if he screws up one little, one little fact. Do you remember what he used to say he'd come to Wisconsin? From O'Clair to Madison, from Milwaukee to Oshkosh, and right here in Kenosha, we will make America great again. If he got one city wrong off the top of his head, it would be front page news all over Election Day that he's lost his mind. He goes on these trips. He flies 18 hours. He gives speeches. He comes back. He's at the White House doing the Easter egg roll. The guy is... I hope I have half the stamina at 79 years old to live my life like this guy does. Nobody believes that they just throw things at the wall at Trump. And any ordinary person is like, why? Even if I don't like the guy. I mean, yeah, he's always out there. He's the exact opposite of Joe Biden. Joe Biden, a 20-minute press conference and put a lid on it. One o'clock in the afternoon, put a lid on it. He just sits there in the Oval Office and entertains questions for an hour. It's just off the cuff and he knows all these topics. Look, again, the left is so desperate to try and demean and end the Trump administration and discredit him. I think it's like they just throw an egg at the wall. Like, throw that one, just keep firing eggs at the wall and hoping one stick.

They come up with some of the dumbest ideas, and this is the dumb. Nobody believes Trump. Trump's as mentally fit as anybody you're going to find. He's an intelligent guy. You don't have to agree with him, but you got to admit. The guy has stamina. He has vigor. And his mind works just fine. It is Jason Gotts with you. Next hour, in for Dan O'Donnell. Next hour, they're calling this Democrat a nut job. But I think it's just, I think they're giving her a bad rap. She's a mainstream Democrat. We're going to talk about her. Lots more and that coming up right after this. My back hates this song. I like the song, but my back hates this song. Because I got a shovel snow. My back doesn't like that anymore. But that's part of living in the Upper Midwest. You got to embrace the snow, right? Or get a good snow blower. Mine's okay. Probably need an upgrade at some point, but... We'll work on that. We'll get the Christmas list taken care of first and maybe in a few years to get a new snowblower. It's Jason Gottsin for Dan O'Donnell News Talk 1130WISN, 1310 WIBA in Madison. Politico with a report here on Elon Musk, he predicts. Two JD Vance terms to succeed President Trump. Elon Musk predicts, according to this story, that President Trump's administration will be followed by two terms of a JD Vance presidency. Elon Musk placed the bet during a video appearance at a reunion of his Doge cost-cutting team last month. Earlier this week, Politico reported this story, and he says that the U.S. is at the beginning of a great 12-year span. He told attendees that he opted to join the event virtually because news of it was public, and he rated himself among the top assassination targets in the country behind only Trump and JD Vance. And attendees at this event had to put their phones in pouches for the duration. They only got them back when they left the venue. So that's sad part of that story. I mean, that's, look, Elon Musk. I mean, how. How brave is Elon Musk? I mean, seriously, he could have sat this whole thing out. Guys, the richest guy in the world. He could play both sides of the fence quietly, politically, but he saw what was going on in this country. And kudos Tim. I know, look, it's a bumpy ride with him and President Trump. You got two big personalities there. I get it. And do I agree with everything that Elon Musk has done this year? No, I don't agree with it, especially what I tried to tie Trump to the Epstein files. We knew that was nonsense. That wasn't the right way to handle it. But overall, Elon Musk has been great for this country. And I'm not just talking about his science and his inventions, the fact that he has jumped into the political arena. And he is supporting conservative populist causes. And unlike a lot of these other billionaires, he gets it. He gets what's going on. And he understands some of the true evil intentions of the progressive left. And he's willing to stand up and fight for this country. And good for him. And I hope he's right. I hope he is because I've thought about this a lot. JD Vance, I think, would be a great president after President Trump has done. I think he'd served very well for eight years. And I think it's going to be tough for the Democrats to beat JD Vance. Economy is going to matter a lot. There's no doubt about it.

It always does. What's going on in the world at the time in 2028? But JD Vance is very polished. He's very, very intelligent. And he's a very, very good debater. And he's a very relatable guy, too, if you're a normal person out there. And there's a lot of normal people still left in the country. It's Jason Gotcha. In for Dan O'Donnell. News Talk 1130 WISN, 1310, WIBA. For Dan O'Donnell, News Talk, 1130, W-I-S-N-1310, W-I-B-A in Madison. You want to reach me during the show of the advent, knows.com, talk, and text line. 414-799, 1130. Again, 414-799, 1130. You can also find me on X slash the old Twitter at Jason Gotts. Spell that last name for you. It sure sounds like it should have a T in there. I always tell you. It doesn't. It's G-O-C-H, Jason G-O-C-H on that Twitter handle. You can reach me on and off the show. I know many people eager also to get your thoughts on things when you're not on the air. So at times I do put my thoughts out there on social media. Elon Musk told us to do that a couple of years ago. I'm like, get your thoughts out there. And I'm like, yeah, we'll get our thoughts out there. But in social media, you know, sometimes it's a double-edged sword. You never know who you're going to bump into on the other side on social media. who's going to, you know, come into your notifications and then does it turn into a Twitter battle and then you're sitting there all day and you don't get anything done on a day off. It's happened to me before. Sit there on Twitter and you're like, oh, I got this fact, I got that fact, I got this fact. Get a day, three hours are gone. I could have. shovel the snow and put up the Christmas decorations, but no, I'm arguing with some random person on social media. But it is a good way to engage. So we'd like to do that on social media as well at Jason Gotts, G-O-C-H on that Twitter handle. Now, the Democratic Party and the Progressive Left, the media narrative, even on our side, on the on. which is my side, I would say, the conservative side, the populist side and conservative media. A lot of people have been talking about, thankfully, this woman who lost down there in Tennessee in the 5th District in Tennessee, this is part of Nashville and the suburbs of Nashville, also Clarksville, Tennessee, which is the northwest of Nashville. Her name is Afton Ben. She's a state representative, and she was running in a special election in Tennessee. They called this special election. for an open representative seat. The election was back on Tuesday night, and thankfully the Republican military veteran Matt Van Epps won the election by about nine points. But the Democratic Party, the national party, dump money into this candidate, Afton Ben. There's a lot of media buzz on the left that she was, you know, this is a Trump plus 22 district and she's even or close to being even in the polls. And in the end, She lost this race by nine points. Now, there's a couple angles I want to take with this. We'll get to the election implication in a little bit. But the idea that Afton Ben is a kook-fringe radical left Democrat.

Or is she a mainstream Democrat? Here's what Afton Ben. She's from Tennessee. I don't know if she's from Nashville. I think she's actually from Knoxville, which is in the eastern part of the state. But she was running to represent most of Nashville. And the suburbs of Nashville, this is before the election on a podcast several months before the election. She had this to say, you might have heard this, but let's refresh your memorand what she said about the people she wants to represent. I hate the city, I hate the bachelorets, I hate the pedal taverns, I hate country. I hate all of the things that make Nashville, apparently, and it's city to the rest of the country, but I hate it. The cackling hens love that. They just, yeah, they go, yeah, I hate the bachelorets, hate the country. That's Nashville. If you ever been down in Nashville on Broadway, that's their tourist area. That's where people go. People are happy. I understand if you're a local, you don't always want to go there. But she hates this part of the city that's the revenue driver of that central Tennessee economy. She wants to represent these people. Now, this is how crazy the Democrat base is in Nashville. She got over 71% of the vote in Davidson County. Tennessee. That's where Nashville is. So they don't care that she hates their city and she hates everything about Nashville. They'll still vote because the Democrats like cult members. They say the Republicans and Trump voters are cult members. Quite the opposite. The Democrats will vote for anybody with a D next to their name. The Republicans are very discerning and the conservatives. President Trump, there's no cult involving President Trump. The reason President Trump... won two elections. Some would say three, but we won't debate that right now. I want two. And on paper, he won two. The reason he won two elections, the reason he won the Republican nomination, more importantly for the purpose of this discussion back in 2016, was because President Trump was saying the things that no other Republican had the guts to say. He was standing up for the forgotten man and woman in this country that had been left behind by 30 plus years of globalism, 30 plus years of the Unip Party, 30 plus years of endless wars, 30 plus years of... The working man and woman in this country being neglected by the politicians. And sure, there were differences between Democrats and Republicans. There are a lot of them. A lot of differences. But on many key issues, the Republicans fumbled the ball. Whether it be Mitt Romney, whether it be John McCain, whether it be President Bush, who I was a big fan of him when he was in office, but there were certain things that President Bush didn't push it far enough. Obviously, the 90s were the Clinton area. Then you go back to Reagan and Bush won. That's pretty much a different era for the purpose of this discussion. But that's why President Trump got traction. He had the guts to say illegal immigration is destroying this country. We need a wall.

And people are like, yeah, you know what? There's not enough resources in this country when you're running a welfare state to support unchecked illegal immigration. And nobody, oh, we don't want the media that we won't get invited to the Washington, D.C. parties if we say that, they'll call us a racist. There's nothing racist about it. I don't, if you're illegally in this country, whether it be somebody from France, Russia, Mexico, the Congo, South Africa, any other country you want to name, Brazil, it doesn't matter. If you're legal, welcome. If you're not legal, go back to where you came from because we cannot support you when we have a country that is a welfare state. It is. There's a welfare safety net 10 times bigger than anybody could have ever dreamed of 100 years ago or 200 years ago. We had immigration in this country to settle the country. You know how you survived on your own, with your family, or with church groups? That's how you survived. There was no, oh, I'm going to go to the SNAP office and go get my money, and then I'm going to go to this office and that office, and I'm going to live okay. You can't do that. You can't have a functioning country with illegal aliens taking advantage of those services. There's not enough money. The Democrats never understand it. But that's why President Trump won is because he spoke to issues that people were not addressing in both parties. That's why there's no cult of Trump. There's people like, oh my gosh, this guy, the only guy with the guts to say this stuff. So the Democrats are the cult. 71% vote for a woman who says she hates the city. Here's more Afton Ben now. If you thought she was a nice lady right there, here's Afton Ben on power. My therapist always asks. me to transcribe my dreams when they happen. And the recurring dream I've had is standing up in a cafeteria full of women, I don't know why I was there or whatever, and saying, I don't want children, I want power, and just screaming it at the top of my lungs. And for someone who grew up with my mother telling me, never have kids, because you will... You know, you'll have to give up a lot. You'll have to sacrifice professionally, which is what she was saying. And where I am now with seeing the consequences and the ramifications of women having kids and being in the political field and what they're able to achieve, because we don't offer, you know, it's like the political field hasn't met the challenge of working moms. They really haven't. But also, the deeply patriarchal structures that these women. are involved with because they've chosen marriage and they've chosen to raise children. And I think in the South, it's incredibly difficult to shake those, especially if you've grown up here, and that's all you've been told is the definition of success. What an absolute nut job. I could punch my wife up here on the line.

And I guarantee you she would say the greatest thrill in her life was having kids. And most women would say that. To just diminish marriage and the family and the way she did. And I know it's not for everybody. I'm not trying to force marriage and family down here. That's not your thing. But just to diminish it and say to go into a room full of women. After you tell us to your therapist, look, some people need therapy. But everything you said is why you're in therapy. I want power. To paraphrase Plato. Those who want power are the least likely people you want to have it. I mean, you don't want it. You don't want them to have it. Those are the people in the Ruby. If you want power, you want power because you're not going to do very good with that power. The people who you want to have power don't want to have power. They want to help people. They want to truly do it. They don't want to say, I have power. I'm going to impose my will on you. I mean, seriously, to just, again. But I don't think she's crazy in the Democratic Party. I'll explain that in just a second. Here is her concession speech after she lost Matt Van Epps by 9. And tonight, because I believe in Southern hospitality, I called the congressman elect, Matt Van Epps, and I had one question for him. What defines, what will define what happens next? Do not let the Affordable Care Act subsidies expire. Do not raise health care costs for working families in Tennessee. She lost. She lost the election. She's calling the winner and tell them what to do. Usually the concession is. Hey, congratulations. I wish you best. I hope you represent the district. She's giving him a lecture on her bullet points of far left talking points that this guy should follow. I mean, it's probably a nice guy. He probably listened and hung up the phone and said, I'm glad we don't have to deal with this person anymore. We don't have to worry about her. Or maybe, just maybe, he does. So you would, you're leaving the door open to if you lose this race tonight to potentially running again. Perhaps, yeah, absolutely. I mean, obviously I have to rest for a few days and circle back with my team, but we've run an amazing race. All things considered, the deck was stacked against us, especially in the Deep Red South. And we've narrowed the margin. And for me, that is a celebration worth having. Circle back. I used to work for somebody years and years ago who would always say circle back. Jen, I did not work for Jen, but she, Jen Soki, yes, I was about to say, I'll circle back because I have no idea what I'm talking about. Yeah, it seems like that when somebody says, I'm going to circle back with you all. They circle back means they have no idea what to say. So beside the point, but yes, circle back. Bad memories. Anyway, so that was a Kaitlan Collins on CNN. She might run again. But everybody's saying, oh, she was, you know, here's some other stuff she stands for. She's, again, she's a state representative in Tennessee. She calls men birthers who can give birth. Again, men, men cannot give birth. If you are born with the X, X, X, or X, Y chromosome sequence, that determines whether you're going to be able to give birth or not. That's, you, men cannot give birth.

She says she'll refuse to have children and the government meets her radical demands. She's okay. Well, then that's her loss. Not ours as a community. She can choose to have kids or not. She calls marriage and nuclear family a deeply patriarchal structure. Actually, it's a building block of society. And. It's obviously good for children. And for adults, it's good, too. If you have a good marriage, you know, as life, everyday struggles, you've got somebody there to support you. You've got somebody to take care of you as you get old. You're getting old together. One person hurts their, you know, falls and, you know, maybe sprains their ankle. The other person helps them the next year. The other person, you know, falls and sprains their ankle. You're there to help them. You get the idea. Marriage is a good thing. You have somebody you can count on in life in a tough world. She admits open prayers in the legislature make her uncomfortable. She wants Christianity out of public life. She's pushing mail order abortions. That's a Democrat. That's a sacrament of the left wing. She pushes defunding the police. She also says she fantasizes about a world without police. And she also said burning down that police station during the summer of love was justified. She's not a radical Democrat. She's your average Democrat. She is. I mean, you look at election season starts. Well, it started already, but it's going to really swing in here in just a few weeks in the great state of Wisconsin. How many Democrats do you think in the state of Wisconsin are going to be running this time around really disagree with all these things? Oh, they might find one or two things they did you really think? You really think they disagree with a lot of that stuff? No, I think they, Afton Ben is a clone of other Democrats and most of them around the country. She's just dumb enough to say it out loud. She doesn't know how to package it. She just can't keep her mouth shut. That's the only difference between her and most 98% of the Democrats now in public life is that she, she's, I mean, They might have open contempt for their citizens, but they're not all dumb enough to say it. She's just stupid enough to say it publicly on podcasts and go around and say dumb things. But they believe this stuff. They absolutely do. I mean, they say they look at the laws they propose. They reflect all these type of things. I mean, look at how many states and cities in states in this country, but even states, no cash bail. They get rid of bail. They wanted to fund the police, all these big cities, all about defunding the police. Now, I'll fund the police a little bit. Ice agents all over the country are being threatened. Yeah, this is your average Democrat right here, Afton Ben. So when you go vote next year, 2026, and you get your neighbor over that's, oh, Trump's not doing that granted job. The affordability crime, what affordability crisis. It's a lot better than it was under Joe Biden. Joe Biden created the affordability crisis, the Democratic Party. But your neighbor is going to be like, oh, yeah, the affordability crisis. Well, that Democrat doesn't sound too bad. You know, you just play him a couple clips of Afton Ben and say, you know what, that's your Democratic Party right there. The National Democratic Party dumped a lot of money into the Afton Ben campaign. Other Democrats came and they endorsed her. She's one of the, she's a member of the party. She's a made member of the Democratic Party. And she's an elected Democrat official too. So the idea that this person's a wacko in the Democrat. Well, no, this is your average citizen. This is your average Democrat.

elected official. Maybe even if you're a Democrat citizen doesn't agree with all this stuff, your old school Democrat, this is your average Democrat elected official nowadays, and thank goodness she lost this race. Now, she lost it by nine points. And that's becoming a talking point. The doomers are out on our side. They are. And there are reasons to be concerned. I don't want to give you false hope. But, but I'm going to put this into perspective, this special election win by Matt Van Epson. Why? You shouldn't be pushing the panic button just yet. We'll talk about that. Jason Gotts in for Dan O'Donnell. News Talk 1130 WISN and 1310 WIBA in Madison. Talked about it earlier in the show how much I've got to do. But that really hits. December 4th and three weeks from today. Christmas Day, Santa will have arrived already. Kids will have all the gifts. They'll be opening up all the fun stuff or they'll already be done for most people. Wow. Time flies when you're having fun. It is Jason Gotts. In for Dan O'Donnell. I'm here today. I am here tomorrow and you can always listen to us on News Talk 1130 WISN and 1310 WIBA in Madison and also, of course, online at the IHeart Media app. Great to have our listeners with us with wishing you always. Merry Christmas. Happy holiday season. Early, happy New Year. Hope you're enjoying the festivities of the season. Now, I did enjoy. I told you in the previous segment, it was great that Matt Van Epps. in Tennessee 5 back on Tuesday night, beat Afton Ben. The mainstream, because the Democrats have gone completely insane and the progressive left has, hijacked that party. Afton Ben beat her by, or lost that race to Matt Van Aps by nine points. Van Aps wins by nine points. So the narrative now is. Affordability Crisis. This was a Trump, I believe, plus 22 district back in November of 2024. The president's poll numbers in... Many of the mainstream polls are sagging. The Republicans are treading water here. People are disgusted at ICE agents arresting illegal aliens and wearing masks. The Democrats have regained the trust of the American people. And this special election shows it, especially after New Jersey and Virginia. I mean, we had New Jersey. We had Virginia. And now we have Tennessee 5 in a red district. She came within 10 points of winning this race. And this was a moral victory for the Democratic Party in progressive politics. Not so fast. Okay. I'm not going to minimize this affordability stuff, but it's a Democrat talking point.

And it's not true. President Trump is not to blame for the inflation that hit this country in 2021, 2022, 2023, and into 2024. He was not the president. When the policies were put into place in 2021 and 2022 that caused this nightmare, the Democrats controlled everything. They controlled the House. They controlled the Senate. And they controlled the presidency. And they did all this without Republican votes. They ran through a bunch of legislation. They exploited COVID, which was a real thing, not diminishing the virus at all. But they exploited COVID. in printing money up and saying people didn't have to go back to work yet, or if you did, we're going to give you all this money, printing up, oh, we're going to give you a $2,000 check or $1,500 check. And when you print money and dump all that money into the money supply, what happens? Economics 101, there's more money in the supply. the prices of things go up. And prices generally don't fall that much. And sometimes you don't want them to fall a little bit, but you don't want to get to deflation either. That's even worse than inflation. So I'm not trying to make this economics 202 and bore everybody on a Thursday. But to sum it up, the economics lesson is this. When you print money, prices go up. And you can't bring them down instantaneously. A lot of things that times the way you get out of this is salaries go up. Salaries, the salaries and compensation catch up to the inflation. Now, that's not always the case, but you look at where things are right now, as far as, things aren't going necessarily up. They're kind of holding the same level or in some cases, I mean, I go into Walmart a lot. I'm one of those people who shops at Walmart. There's a lot in the food section, a lot of price cuts, permanent price cuts. You look, oh, I like to eat soup, chicken noodle soup, real boring guy. Chicken noodle soup was three bucks. before now it's permanently lower to two bucks save a buck every can jason gotcheats very well and on the cheap it's really good stuff but there are a lot of there are a lot of cases where remember the aid crisis oh my gosh the eggs your president trump is in office day one and look at those egg prices and then within a month the egg prices came down because biden's ordering all the chickens to be killed of course you're not going to have as many eggs it's basic economics so I'm not so, and I think next year, the economy, there are some troubling signs with the economy as far as job creation and layoffs and things like that. But the tax cuts are going to hit hard in a good way next year. It's really going to impact people's pocketbooks. We'll have to see what happened. Scott Bessent, who I have total confidence, is a great Treasury Secretary. He says 2026 is going to be a real good year. We'll have to see if he's right. I have a feeling he will be. But this whole idea that the affordability crisis, the Democrats are going to have this blue wave, and Tennessee 5 prove that. I want to take you to the idea of the special election, okay? This special election was held on a Tuesday in December. In a state, Tennessee is terrible at turning out the votes. This is not, I'm not going to get bored you at all of Tennessee politics. But historically, they vote in the governor election and the presidential election. That's when they vote. They vote in the off-year election, and they vote in the presidential election. They're not big on turning out.

for these special elections. And I went over this before, Jason got in for Dan O'Donnell, that the crazy purple-haired progressive will crawl across broken glass, hot coals, and walk through a fire to vote for their radical left-wing views. The parties have completely changed. Fifteen years ago, the high-propensity voter was a Republican voter. You saw Republicans win a lot of elections with low turnout. It's completely flipped. The elections now... High turnout favors the MAGA movement. It favors the Trump coalition. And it favors conservative populace and ultimately Republican candidates. The low propensity voter is voting Republican. And this started with President Trump, especially in 2024. But we saw it also in 2020 as well. 2016, not so much. No, that was a low turnout election overall. But in 2020 and 2024, when Trump's on the ballot, the low propensity voter turns out for Trump. 2022, he's not on the ballot. Those low propensity Republican voters, they don't turn out. So the idea here that this is definitely going to be. A blue wave coming because of a low turnout election in Tennessee during the Christmas season in a state that doesn't vote in special elections get the turnout historically, I think is a little bit of pushing the panic button. A little bit of chicken little thinking the sky's going to fall. And you look at historically... To build on this point, back in 2024, and I pulled this up to get the exact stats for our audience who expects it. In 2024, in Ohio 6, this is a district around Columbus, I believe it wraps around Columbus in the center of the state of Ohio, has some of the eastern side there, central Ohio as well. This is a Republican district. And in 2024, In the summer, they had a special election here. The Republican, he's the current U.S. rep. His name is Michael Ruley. He beat a guy named Michael Cripchak by about 9%, similar to what Van Epps beat Ben By in Tennessee back on Tuesday night. And this was supposed to be, this was the summer of... 2024, this was supposed to be the warning sign for President Trump. This was June 11th, 2024. Nobody's voting for Trump. Look at this. This is Ohio 6th. This is a ruby red district. And this Kripchak guy got within nine points of the Republican candidate. Are you kidding? Joe Biden at the time was the candidate. Joe Biden's going to walk away with this thing. There's no way. Trump has no chance against Joe Biden. Look at the special election result. And then it's go to the general election when everybody turns out. Michael Ruelly in a rematch won that race by 33%. He won 66 to 33. So he won that thing by 33 points in the general.

So keep that in mind that that's the turnout game in these special elections is not the same as what you see in a midterm or especially a presidential election, but for next year's purposes, a midterm. So don't push the panic button just yet. We've seen this in other races too. New York's three had this in 2023 in a special. Also. California 20 had a big turnout in a special election in the end when it was the, when it was the 2024, the Republicans did just fine. So you got to remember now this is not. If you're a Republican here in the state of Wisconsin or you're with the Wisconsin Republican Party. Listen to this show. Don't put the few. A guy on ISN, filling in for O'Donnell, Jason Gott. You know, let's put the feet up, have a big holiday party, go to our three Lincoln Day dinners a year in various counties. And we're going to be just fine in 2026. There'll be a Republican sweep here in the state. No. It's not what I'm saying at all. You've got to put a lot of work in. You've got to outwork the Democrats. You've got to do a better job with voter outreach than the Democrats do, which the Republicans, frankly, don't do. They don't. They don't do a good job with voter outreach. Turning Point USA does. President Trump does because he's a one-man media wrecking crew. He always, he, Trump understands the news cycle and publicity better than I think anybody in American history. They used to say P.T. Barnum did that with a circus. P.T. Barnum. He's a great showman. Trump's a great politician, but he's also a great showman. He knows how to get his message out. He knows how to motivate people to get off their couch and go to the polls. And he does it basically by himself with some assistance from the RNC, but he drags them across the finish line. He drags candidates across the finish line. And that's what's so scary about a year like 2026. Have the Republicans learned anything from President from President on how to win elections?

That's so important because Trump's not on the ballot ever again. Don't believe. Look, I know he loves to troll them. I laugh so hard. I laugh so hard when the media, oh, he said he's good. He said he's undecided about 2028. He's going to violate the Constitution. No, he's not. He's not running again. He's never running again. President Trump's done. Look, the amendment is very clear. You get two terms. It doesn't say anything about consecutively. But you know what? President Trump understands that his troll job here distracts them from other issues. It takes their eye off the ball. So when they ask, well, yeah, you know what? We haven't made a decision yet about 2028. We're still evaluating all options. We're going to look at it. And for the new cycle for two days is the left going insane. Takes their eye off the ball on other issues. Gets in their head. He's playing the mental game. with the American left. And he does it better than I think anybody in history does on our side, probably on any side. Because he's not just a politician. He's also somebody who understands the media. So that's a big challenge for the Republicans. And it's a huge challenge in 2026. Get your voters to the polls without President Trump on the ballot because this is one, look, the one drawback about President Trump still being in office is you're going to get people on our side say, hey, we'll just have a Trump rally. We're just going to have Trump come and do some, you know, a telephone town hall with us. We'll have him on the Zoom. We'll use his name, likeness, and image. And we'll do that in the light red districts that maybe we're a little worried about and everything will be fine. People don't necessarily come out because Trump told them to come out. They come out because Trump. is on the ballot. So again, huge challenge in 2026. I'm not trying to minimize that because I'm not trying to give you false hope, but the idea that you're doomed 11 months before an election because of a low turnout election in Tennessee. History proves that theory wrong. And you just have to go back to 2024. Look at Ohio 6. Republican wins it by 9 in June, June 11th, 2024. Biden's the next president. Kamala Harris's the next president. Look at that special election. And then what, five months later, less than five months later, first week of November in 2024, that same matchup between the Democrat and Republican, the Republican wins it by 33. It's a turnout game. Republicans have to figure out how to turn out their voters when President Trump is not on the ballot. It is Jason Gottsin for Dan O'Donnell. News Talk 1130 WISN, 1310, WIBA in Madison. I saw some flash across on the TV. It can't be true or the relationship is doomed. I'll explain right after this. Gotch filling in. I'm here today. I am here tomorrow. A lot of holiday festivities going on. We're in a festive mood here in the studio. And great to have you with us. News Talk 1130 WISN, 1310, WIBA in Madison. I don't know how this next story is true. I don't believe it or I feel sorry for Travis Kelsey. And I...

You never thought I feel sorry for that guy. Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift. I got sick of that relationship when it started two years ago. But this angle is interesting to me because I don't know how it's true. And I want to say that I have a great relationship with my wife. I truly am a blessed guy. I mean that sincerely. I'm blessed to have the marriage I have. I love my wife. I love my family. But I don't know how this, all that being said, I don't know how this can be true. On the show, it's a podcast. Back, actually yesterday. It was yesterday. Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift discussed their relationship, apparently. And on this New Heights podcast, Travis talked about Taylor and he said, I haven't gotten into an argument. Never once. He's never been in an argument with Taylor Swift. They've dated since the summer of 2023. So they've been together for two and a half years. And they've never gotten into, he's never gotten an argument with her, never once. Now. She, I don't know, it doesn't say she said that back, but I don't, I don't know. Let's see here. Travis said he and, Travis Kelsey said it. So maybe she just yells at him and he just takes it. I mean, it's possible, right? She just yells it or gets mad at Travis or just disagree with him. And he just sits there like an obedient puppy dog and takes it like the good guy that he is. But this conversation on this podcast, apparently. started because of a claim made by actor George Clooney, who mentioned that he and his wife Amal have not argued in 10 years of marriage. And Kelsey's comments highlight a low conflict dynamic in the relationship. He expressed admiration for Clooney's perspective on how to avoid arguments. He's taking notes how to maintain harmony in his own relationship. Clooney says he is matured. He finds it unnecessary to argue. emphasizing the importance of appreciating one's partner. This can't be real, can it? I mean, seriously, look, the arguments are part of life. It doesn't even mean it's in a mean way. I mean, somebody sees... I mean, my wife sees something one way. I see something the other way. I'll tell the audience here in Wisconsin, I will tell the world on the iHeart app. My wife and I are biggest disagreements and borderline arguments. Arguments at times. Yeah, not me. We don't raise our voice, but we say our peace. Are about the dog. I think the dog should rule the house. He's an old dog. Let him have the couch. Let him have what.

He got sick today. You know, he threw up on the floor. I don't think we should let him on. Yeah, absolutely let him on the couch. He's an old dog. He's just put a sheet on there. No, he's not going on the couch. He threw up earlier day. Put him on the couch. I don't care about the couch. Well, I care about the couch. It's a nice, you get the idea. 50% of the audience agrees with me. Well, maybe 25 agrees with me. 75% agrees with her. But you get the idea. You're in the course of life. You have to be able to say your opinion, and your opinion is not going to be always agreed upon by another person, and that creates a disagreement. And at times, an argument. This doesn't have to be mean. Some of the best things that happen in the world are... involving people disagreeing. And they get in the borderline arguments. I'm not talking about anything physical or demeaning, but I say my point. You say your point. We argue it out. If we get a little heated on, you know, a disagreement, you laugh about it in a few minutes. I always try and make people I disagree with. Try to make them laugh in a few minutes. It's like, hey, you know what? This isn't the end of the world. We don't agree on this, whatever. But I don't think it's healthy not to have arguments at times. I mean, I think it's, it is healthy because if you're not arguing. And not disagreeing. Like, the way you phrase disagreement or argument, it's all kind of the same. Look, people are, you believe in something. I believe in, you don't say it like, hey, no, this is the way we got to do it. No, this is the way we got to do it. It's an argument. it's not good not to have an argument occasionally because you're holding your feelings in. And then it just builds inside you and builds inside you and builds inside you. And George Clooney, I have no idea. I'm surprised his relationship lasted 10 years. I was going to say before I saw the George Clooney angle of this story where they were married, they've been married for 10 years, maybe they never see each other. Maybe that's the thing too, Hollywood people. I mean, would it surprise you if they lived in different areas? George Clooney and his wife, I don't know. But would it surprise you if they never see each other? It's different when you see each other every day. Kelsey and Taylor, I don't know if they probably don't see each other all that much. He's playing football six months out of the year, and she's doing concerts and stuff like that. So maybe that's why this works. But I don't think it does long term. You see the person every day, you're going to have an argument. You hold the stuff in, not good, not good at all. Or maybe this is just a facade in the show. for the podcast and try and get more attention on their relationship. That whole relationship, Travis Kelsey and Taylor, it seemed weird from the start. It still seems weird. And I wish anybody who gets married, nothing but the best. I hope they get married. I hope they live together over next 60 years, and I hope they're happy. But it just, when you say something like this, I have not gotten into an argument, not once. Either you're the obedient puppy dog, or at some point I think an argument is coming. for these two. I mean, and if it does, it's probably good for the relationship. Just me, just me. Play an amateur relationship analyst. Jason got you in for Dan O'Donnell. I will be back in just a couple of minutes to wrap it up and preview a little bit of tomorrow's show right after this.

I will be back in the big chair filling in for Dan tomorrow. Lots of breaking news here late in the show. The Supreme Court reinstates the new Texas congressional map. We'll get to that a little bit more in-depth tomorrow. Talk a little bit of redistricting what the Democrats are trying to do. They're the ones trying to steal the seats, folks. It's not the Republicans. It's not Texas. It's really, I mean, the Democrats just. Anything they're saying, just flip it around. They're pointing the finger at others, and three fingers are pointing right back at them. Also, a Virginia grand jury refuses to reindite Letitia James, the New York Attorney General, residency requirements with her mortgage application. Seemed like a pretty open and shut case, but do you really think if you're a conservative, you're getting a fair shake in D.C.? Do you really think in Virginia and northern Virginia, you're going to get a fair shake? And do you really think if you're prosecuting a far leftist anti-Trumper, you're going to get a fair shake in northern Virginia or in D.C.? No, you're not going to. It's that simple. So we'll talk more about that coming up on the show. Tomorrow also got some stories, more illegal alien nightmares in the country, documented. We'll talk about that. Vaccines in the news for children, we'll get into that on tomorrow's show. Also, more of the seditious six. A crazy voter talks about SNAP benefits. We'll talk about all that as well coming up on the show tomorrow as I sit in for Dan O'Donnell. And what I have to do, so I do my show prep. I'll be starting tonight. And then I'll be doing it into the wee hours of the night. And then I'll do it tomorrow morning. But when I go home, I'm going to talk more about this. It's kind of a fun Friday story. I'll fill you in on the details of how it went down. But when I was getting ready to come to work today, I unfortunately, my wife's car, we were driving in the morning. And I've got a flat tire. Which isn't normally a bad thing. I change the tire. It's a pretty easy thing to do. But when one of your tires is already the spare, you don't have a spare tire on the car, and I can't get the thing inflated. So I've got to figure that out after the show, how to get... The one tire that is on the car that is not working. Somehow I got to inflate that thing. Get the car back home and then figure out this whole thing around the show prep. But I did a couple boneheaded things. We only got a couple minutes left. I can't get into it right now.

because it's too much. But it'll be one of those Friday. How big a bonehead is the host on how we handle the whole situation on Thursday? And hopefully on Thursday night, he got it right. But we'll talk about that coming up as well. And some other fun Friday stories that I got to mix into the equation. But again, the big story today that we talked about at the start of the show, there might be an update on that as well. The January 6th pipe bomber being caught, alleged pipe bomber charged in D.C. charged by the federal government DOJ for allegedly planting a pipe bomb outside the DNC and RNC headquarters way back on January 5th, 2021. So this case sat dormant during the entire Biden administration you would think or they didn't do much to over try and investigate this case simply because, who knows? Was it politics? Maybe by tomorrow's show we will have more on the political. leanings of the alleged pipe bomber. His name is Brian Cole. He's 30 years old. But Pam Bondi, I had this clip at the start of the show. I might save it again. Maybe we won't play it tomorrow, but at least save the story because it's important to note that Pam Bondi was adamant that this case, the evidence was from evidence that was available over the last four years. So why did the Biden DOJ? and the Justice Department officials and also the FBI. Why did they sit on this case for so long? Hopefully we'll have answers sooner rather than later. It'll be interesting next 24, 48 hours in the next week to see how this case and how the news around it unfolds. Big thanks to producer Eric doing great work, producing the show with me today, making me sound good. Big thanks to all of our listeners. Couldn't do it without you. News Talk 1130 WISN, 1310, WIBA, and Madison. Jason Gotts for Dan O'Donnell. I'm in again tomorrow. Talk to you then.