Episode #2034 - Hammer and Nigel Full Show

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And when Ryan Mears and Boss Joe Hogsett, they go up there and they tell you all the statistics show that crime is down. Like Joe Hogsett's really trying to shove that down to everybody's throat. When you watch an interview with the police officer right now, and understand, nobody's more pro-police in this town than you and I are nige. We support the police when it wasn't cool to do so. Like during the George Floyd time, right, when everybody wanted to defund the police, we thought that was crap. But don't lie to us and tell us what our own eyes can see for ourselves. You're not supposed to set a record every year. I say it all the time. So when you tell me crime is down over the last five years, well, the last five years have been the most violent five years in the history of the city. So let's just pump the brakes a little bit. We're not stupid. The last five days. Right. Five people were murdered in a 24-hour span. Indianapolis is outpacing Chicago in homicides per capita by at least 10%. According to the latest numbers given to us by the FOP. You're saying this guy that's been arrested 99 times, latest for attempted murder, downgraded to what aggravated battery is making national headlines. It's getting national attention. It is. This is a story that just shows how broken, not just Indianapolis, but a lot of justice systems all around the country. Stephen Miller, he is the deputy chief of staff. for policy under Donald Trump. He's like the bald guy, but he's super smart, and he always is the smartest guy in the room, that cat. He retweeted libs of TikTok who had shared this story. And Stephen Miller writes, quote, we don't have to live this way. And he's absolutely right. Now, Stephen Miller, he's also big into what Trump's trying to do in some of these high crime Democrat cities. I wish he'd come here. Right. Maybe the next time the governor's here, we can have a conversation. I believe that governor might be here October 8th for his next visit. So if that's the case, put this on the docket of things to talk about. So Trump's in Memphis now. Like he's sending, is he sending the guard? What's he doing? Sending anyone available, ICE, the Guard, everything that he did in Washington, D.C., that's happening in Memphis, and it's about to happen in Portland. Those are the next steps. Now, ICE is working overtime in Chicago right now, but they haven't brought in National Guard yet. But in Memphis, it's anybody that's available. They held a press conference last night. Here is Stephen Miller. We will liberate this city from the criminal element that has plagued it for generations. This is not just a strategy shift. This is an attitude shift.

We are not going to live in an environment anywhere where there is a street that belongs to a criminal, where there is a neighborhood that belongs to a gang, where there is any physical space anywhere that belongs to anyone other than the law-abiding citizens and families of Memphis. The idea that there is a square inch of block in this city where a citizen doesn't feel safe is unacceptable. This is Memphis. This is the United States of America, and all that bullshit is done. It's over. It's finished. I mean, could you imagine hearing that if you live in Memphis in one of those high-risk areas? where there's a lot of poverty and a lot of crime. Could you imagine just, you know, wanting to live your life and hearing someone and say those words and how that would be amazing. And look, there's a lot of people that probably didn't vote for Trump that live there. Right. That would be happy to hear that. Right. I'd be happy to hear it here. Right. And I think it's been said here by IMPD on the upper echelon of their leadership. But, man, coming from Trump's cabinet is something totally different. That was pretty powerful. Now, in order to pull this off, you have to have enough federal prosecutors to come in. That's the problem with Indianapolis right now. You could have the National Guard come in, but if it has to go through Captain WokePants prosecution office, then... They're just going to kick those people back out to the streets. You've got to bring in some sort of outside prosecutors. And I know that the IMPD and even boss hog set have been trying to do this as much as they can, but you can't do it all the time unless it's a federal issue. The White House now saying that mass layoffs are imminent with no end to the shutdown in sight. So I'm trying to... decide if that's a good thing or a bad thing in terms of the shutdown because I thought that's what Doge was supposed to do? Correct. But it's also a little bit of mixed messaging, okay? So JD Vance, he spoke yesterday and he admits, you know, he could be wrong, but he doesn't think this thing's going to be very long. I actually don't think it's going to be that long of a shutdown. This is a pure guess from the Vice President of the United States because I think you already saw some evidence that moderate Democrats are cracking a little bit. But they understand the fundamental illogic of this. Look, for years, every single one of us, we can remember Barack Obama on the White House lawn. We can remember Chuck Schumer. We can remember, you know, Nancy Pelosi for years. In Chuck Schumer's case for literally decades, we've heard them say, you don't shut the government down over policy. agreement. Okay, Republicans think this thing about health care, that thing about health care. Democrats think this thing about immigration, Republicans disagree. Whatever those disagreements are, you don't shut down the government over it. For the first time since the Democrats have been in politics, they're now saying that unless we get every policy item that we demand, we're going to shut down the people's government. They're trying to take a hostage, and we're not going to let them. Okay, so that was JD Vance. It's a Democrat shutdown. No question.

And it's really down to one issue. And I know we've debated with Rob Kendall about this because Rob wants to take you down. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Your local Toyota dealer has great deals available today on RAV4, Grand Highlander, Camry, and Corolla with the features and style you deserve. It means driving for less with hybrid and plug-in hybrid options across the lineup, delivering great MPGs. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles, meaning your car will hold its value for years to come. Shop Toyota.com to find out more. Toyota, let's go places. I'm a rabbit hole of Obamacare this and Obama care that. But if you're really just trying to get down to brass tax here, it comes down to health care for illegal immigrants. Are you for it or are you against it? That's what this is coming down to. Nodge, if you need a reason to drink tonight... It's your birthday! It's my birthday today. What is it? 48? 48 years old. Right on, man. Happy birthday. Here with a special greeting is former President Joe Biden. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear darling. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Oh, thank you. Former President Biden. Happy birthday, Velvet. Here to really kick off the birthday festivities are some special messages from the AI friends of our show. Hey there, Bobby. Happy, you know. Bobby. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Biden. I have a wonderful and happy birthday. I remember when my friend Willie Brown had a birthday. The gift I gave him was I put his... I think the kids call it HawkTua. Anyway, you have a very special birthday that is unburdened by what has been. Well, look who has a birthday. Try not to choke on the 14 pieces of cake. I'm sure you will eat, you fat bastard. Oh, do everyone a favor. And, you know, walk your fat ass into oncoming traffic. You'll either get hit by a car or get some actual exercise by walking. Either way, humanity wins. Huge degenerate pig. Hey, fatty. Truth be told, I actually hope you have a terrible birthday. Congrats on being the only guy I know that is even more creepy than Greg Doyle. Here's a riddle for your audience. What did Jason Hammers, gambling picks, and Angel Reese shooting layups both have in common? The answer, they both miss all of the time. Anyway, have a great birthday or don't. I really don't care. AI, Caitlin, out. Look, I don't like you, and you don't like me. Huck's that. But. If you were going to be drinking at all on your birthday, I was wondering if Thomas Carl Cook and I could stop by. We can bring all of the chicks we have allegedly harassed, a few bottles of dark eyes, and we can get lit. Well, I've got to go be soft on crime. Call me if you're drinking. Happy birthday, you fat bastard. Co-feffy. Oh, thank you.

To all the AI friends of the show. Oh, that was wonderful. That was beautiful. Oh, man, I'm blushing. Thank you. Matt Baer. You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel show. Life show tomorrow at Coaches Tavern, presented by the Finnish long drink with Hammer and Nigel. Fresh off a birthday, Hammer, your birthday is today, happy birthday, and we're going to celebrate in style with the finish. long drink. That's the thing that's like with actor Miles Teller and golfer Ricky Fowler. I can't wait to taste it. It's long, it's strong, it's down to get the friction on the finish long drink. Can I tell you something about tomorrow? It's going to cost me money to come to work tomorrow. Uh-oh. Because I will be taking an Uber. Yes, sir. I am telling you, there is no way I'm doing a live broadcast to Coach's Tavern and driving down here by myself. I'm not going to, I go, Lindsay was like, just, can you have just one? And I go, no, I can't just have one. Right. We're doing a show, a Friday show from the bar. All right? I'm kind of insulted. Yes. Like, I love you, babe, but I'm kind of insulted that you asked. I'm trying to do the right thing. Right. I'm trying to do the right thing here and get an Uber. And she's like, well, why don't you just have one? And I'm like, why don't you just? Let me do my thing. Why don't you go to the decorator showhouse by yourself? No? Okay. Well, then I get to drink whatever I want on beer sample Friday. That's how this is going to work. And listen, there's going to be two less parking spots. I'm sorry, two more open parking spots in a garage because I'm not driving down here tomorrow either. You're not either? I'm getting dropped off by the boy. Oh, it's not good. It's not going to be pretty tomorrow this show. Is it pretty any day? Like if you watch this on the YouTube chat, would you say that it's pretty any day? So if you don't know where Coach's Tavern is, it's downtown on Pennsylvania Street, it's like one block from the field house, like diagonal from the field house. Can't miss it. Park anywhere you can, and let's pack that joint. We want as many people as possible in there, and let's have a day. Let's have a show. Now, Kurt, we've been kicking this off for the last couple of days. Let's keep it rolling. I want some Halloween stuff. Pumpkins, candy, costumes, Halloween stuff. We got you covered.

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The Hammer Nigel show. My name is Nigel. Jason Hammer is here. The government is still shut down, and our lives have not changed one bit. It's a little better, to be honest with you. We'll go to the hotline and bring on a gentleman that spent a lot of time in the swamp. Breitbart News, Deputy Politics Editor Bradley, Jay. Bradley, thank you for coming on the show. Maybe just real quick before we talk about the shutdown. Give our listeners some context of your background, who you are, and what it is that you do. Yeah, great to be with y'all, as always. I worked before coming at Bright Park, worked on Capitol Hill for many, many years as a congressional staffer in the Senate for seven years, in the House for five or six years in political, communications, policy roles. So I have been around for a shutdown or two. But this is a shutdown of a different color. There's no doubt. Why? It's always been that, well, number one, Republicans are always the ones who are trying to make these demands for some kind of big policy changes one way or the other. And Republicans have never been united about what they actually won't in the path forward. This time is different. And that is one reason why I think that Republicans actually have a chance to win the messaging battle and maybe get a little bit more out of this one as well. Talk a little bit about the messaging battle here because I know for guys like us, you know, we talk about this stuff every day, we live in this world, we see it, we get it. But I feel like if you go into any barber shop across America, you go into any Denny's or a Waffle House and say, hey, who do you think is winning the messaging battle? I don't even think half the people know the government's shut down because their mail still being delivered and checks are still being passed out. Is there really a messaging battle? That's a very good point that you're making. And the Democrats want this to become more widespread. They want it to be talked about in barbershops, but it's not. Donald Trump totally controls the narrative right now. He's sucking up all the oxygen. Democrats are so desperate. They don't even want to win the shutdown. And like they're making unreasonable demands that they know will never happen. They just want to force a national conversation on health care because that's the one issue where they feel like they might have some kind of advantage of Republicans, but they're doing a terrible job at it. They can't say on message. They're getting distracted by Donald Trump posting memes online of... Democrat leader, Hakeem Jeffries, in a sombrero and a Mexican outfit. And what's Hakeem Jeffries do? He pivots to talking about Trump being referenced. He can't even say, oh, message to make this about health care. Meanwhile, Republicans are just pummeling Democrats talking about how they're trying to provide taxpayer-funded health care to illegals. CNN says that that's not true. Republicans are lying. But you have even Democrats in Congress saying, That's exactly what we're trying to do. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Your local Toyota dealer has great deals available today on RAV4, Grand Highlander, Camry, and Corolla, with the features and style you deserve. It means driving for less, with hybrid and plug-in hybrid options across the lineup, delivering great MPGs. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles, meaning your car will hold its value for years to come.

Shopped Toyota.com to find out more. Toyota, let's go places. So Democrats for once are stepping all over their message while Republicans are united and saying, you know what? All we want to do is keep the government open. And make no mistake about it. Big picture here. This is a Democrat government shutdown, right? Unquestionably, Republicans have the White House. Republicans have the House. Republicans have the Senate. The only reason that the short-term seven-week CR has not been passed is because there are only 53 Republicans, and you need 60 to advance this. So Democrats have a little bit of leverage, but this is only a short-term funding bill. This isn't the kind of legislation that you want to make these... huge gargantuan changes to. And the thing is, there actually would be a time for that over the next seven weeks when Congress works on a broader, longer term government spending plan. But Democrats are sabotaging that. They are nuking their own chances of that by blowing up this seven-week CR. It's just total political malpractice. Bradley, one more thing on this government shutdown deal here. This happened before during Trump's first presidency, and he was pretty, you know, proud to say, I'm happy to shut down the government. It went on for, you know, a number of days. But at the end of it, he didn't really get the funding for his wall that he wanted. How is Donald Trump different now? How is this Republican Congress different now than they were back in his first term? I think that there's no question that Trump has almost want to say matured. I don't know if that's quite right. But you can tell he's much more comfortable and confident in his role, partly because he doesn't have every other Republican in Washington, D.C., waiting to knife him in the back, like in his first term. Look, in the last shutdown in 18, it bled into 2019. Republicans had just lost the house. This was in the lame duck session. Trump wanted $4 to $5 billion, $4 to $5 billion. That's almost nothing when you consider that the one big beautiful bill passed earlier the year had, oh gosh, I think like $45 billion just for a wall on top of billions and billions more for border security. But all of the Republicans at that time back in 18 were not... aligned around Trump shutting down the government over that. It's also worth noting that was not a full government shutdown. It was only a partial government shutdown. Some of it was funded. But also Democrats, they were just days away from retaking the House and getting more leverage. So they had no incentive to go along with Trump then. This is an entirely different ballgame. Democrats are looking silly. They're making demands. that are changing from day to day. They're getting distracted. And again, Republicans have such a straightforward request. We want to keep the government open just for seven weeks so that we can actually continue bipartisan negotiations. And Democrats don't want that. I mean, the few Americans who are paying attention just aren't buying what Democrats are selling.

Well, there's some military people that are paying attention during the Chuck Schumer shutdown, right? I mean, Chuck Schumer is shutting down some military paychecks. There are real people being affected by the Democratic shutdown right. Oh, you're right. And it's primarily those people who do rely on government checks. for their livelihood. All that could end tomorrow if Chuck Schumer and his Democrats just a handful. They only need five more of them in order to pass at the R. But Democrats would say, you know what, we don't think it's appropriate for us to force a shutdown where the men and women serving in our military continue to get or do not get paid while members of Congress do get paid. You even had Senator Ruben Gallego from Arizona. come out and very publicly say, say, I'm not giving up my paycheck. I don't have a lot of money. I've got alimony payments and bills to pay. So, yeah, I'm going to continue accepting my paycheck. What a wonder. But this is what Democrats are doing. And the reason why is that they don't have a leader. They don't have a message. They don't have an agenda. And you're exactly right. They're tuned up because they're not in tune with where the American people are. Hey, Bradley, speaking of the military here, what did you think of the big speech that Pete Hegseth gave to all the leaders that gathered there in Virginia? I mean, it feels like it's been years since the Joe Biden presidency to the Donald Trump presidency. It's only been like one. You know, it's been one and a half years. It feels like it's been an eternity when you talk about the differences in the military. Not only was that speech important in the history of the military and a shift in military culture, that was a shift in American culture. It was a return to normalcy in so many ways. And a lot of these themes and initiatives had been talked about before by the president, by Secretary Pete Hegseth. But, I mean, if you have it, it was a 45-minute speech, but it should just be required listening or reading, not only for everybody in the military or in listening. but probably for people applying for citizenship, too. It was just, it was a call to what made America great, high standards, no special carve-outs for anyone, no dudes in dresses. I mean, it was so, again, like in 1990, it would have seemed perfectly normal. It's wild that we've experienced so much in the past few years that everything that Secretary of Exit said is. almost radical. But it really was a pivotal moment for this country. And Secretary Heggis really planted the flag that said, you know what? We know what made our country great. We know what made our military great. It's not this diversity junk. And we're going to get back to high standards and around.

the focus of actually serving our war fighters and being an effective military force, not this cultural experiment. Bradley, what are you currently working on at brightbar.com? We are following this shutdown very closely. The Senate took a break today for the Jewish holiday. They're giving Democrats one more day to think about it. But the Senate's going to vote again Friday. They're going to vote again Monday if the CR doesn't pass Friday. I think it's a possibility that Democrats will come to their senses because they're just getting... blistered even by their establishment media colleagues. But if they don't come to their senses by Monday, we might be looking at a long shutdown. That'll be interesting, but we're going to stay on top of it at brightbart.com. Yeah, find all the work. Brightbart.com. That's Bradbart News. Deputy Politics Editor Bradley, Jay, always enjoy having you on the phone, Bradley. Thanks a lot to have a good weekend. Have a good weekend, guys. Love talking to y'all. It's The Hammer and Nigel show. Thank you to all the folks on the YouTube chat. wishing me happy birthday. I appreciate that. Thank you. Nige, thank you for the gift that you brought us in the back office. Very welcome. I won't say what it is, but it's gone. Thank you for that. Somebody's asking in the YouTube chat for our big live show tomorrow at Coaches Tavern downtown. Will producer Allison be there? She will not. She is on vacation right now. She sent us a great picture of her and her family on the road. What was that? Remember when we were talking about awful stuff? statues and we brought up the Lucille Ball statue where she just looks like a deformed clown. She stopped on her way to Niagara Falls because her family's driving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they got a picture by the creepy Lucille Ball statue. What is Lucille Ball holding on to a flask there? So that's from the I Love Lucy episode where she's got the spoon and like the oil and... Look at the face of Lucy, though. My God. That's disturbing. It's frightening. So, no, Allison's on vacation until next week. She will not be there. Driving the boat for us and doing a pretty good job is Kurt Gerald. Pretty good. Kurt, how are you? Doing good, man. Okay, that's enough. Thank you. Happy birthday. Kurt's been doing a fantastic job for us. So thank you so much for all of your comments. And again, YouTube chat. Get your happy rear ends. down to coaches tomorrow. Because we're all going to do a big cheers. We're going to have fun. We've got some of our special friends coming by. I think Alvey, Brian Alvey, is going to be there and getting all types of rowdy. Special, special friends. Does that mean Tommy's coming by? No, Tommy will not be there. That's a different type of special. A list of things that will supposedly... Be creepy 50 years from now has been released. This is a list people put together. I think you can find it on social media. Things that people will find creepy 50 years from now that are popular now.

And the first one is Labuboos. Do you know what these are? What is Toyota affordability? It all starts with buying smart. And your Toyota dealer has great deals available to qualified customers on reliable cars and SUVs, including the redesigned RAV4, spacious Grand Highlander, sporty Camrys, and Corolla's. It means driving for less. with efficient hybrid and plug-in hybrid options available throughout the lineup, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, saving you money at the pump. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles. And as the best resale value brand, according to Kelly Blue Book, your Toyota can be worth thousands more than average when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. And look at them right now. I'm lucky my daughter doesn't really care about them, but they are very creepy. This creepy like doll thing, right? Like a space. It just looks like a mouse with ears and a big smile and giant eyes. It's a creepy like dull. I don't know how to describe it. Yeah. Elf on a shelf. 50 years from now, people might find that a little creepy that elf on a shelf was a thing. Got to be careful there. Dating apps. dating apps like i don't think 50 years from now people will say wow that was an easy way to get laid was a creepy thing like if there's one constant in our society people like to have relations i will say some generations more than others i will say i am related to people that have had successful relationships and got married on uh meeting a dating app okay um I don't know if that narrows it down or people that listen to me know who I'm talking about. But again, the dating apps work. So they predated my time, right? Like I was already married before these things came out. Kurt, you're a young guy, you're a single guy. You do the dating apps. Yeah, so let me help you. Tinder is for hookups, relationships for long-term, hinge, Bumbles a mix of both, and now Facebook dating's a thing for more long-term. So how much time do you spend on Tinder? I delete it about every other month. But too much. Create a new profile picture. Wow, this guy looks like Mario Lopez. And then Kurt shows up. Shout up to AI. Some other things. At-home laser hair removal devices. Why would that be creepy? I don't even know that was the thing now.

At-home laser hair removal devices. I find it more creepy if you had just a bunch of hair. Like, I like the fact that there's at-home hair removal. Wait a minute. I'm seeing smart speakers on this list. What in the world is creepy about, like, what could you replace? I love my smart speaker. Maybe the fact that Big Brother's listening to you, right? Oh, oh, you're talking about like Alexa. Right. Okay. I'm thinking like a Bluetooth speaker type thing. Okay, I got it. Because it's crazy. We'll be in the kitchen. I'll be talking to Crystal and we'll bring something up and then we'll look over at the Alexa and there's an ad for it already. I'm like, you rotten, spying son of a. You know what. And usually if that happens, I start ripping on the government. If they're going to be listening to it, I will say. There's no way Joe Biden got all those legal votes back in 2020. Absolutely no way. And James Comey got what was coming to him. So, yeah, those are the things that people will allegedly find creepy. What are you doing for your birthday tonight? Like, does Crystal have something special planned? Maybe an outing to outback. So I'm still on the diet plan until the weekend. Now I'm going to have some drinks. Right? I'm going to have some liquid. Damn well better. You got two more years in your 40s, dude. Right. I only got one. Well, I got less than one. First pitch of the Cubs. deciding a playoff game is at 5 o'clock today. So I'm hoping to eventually get back home maybe to see the final inning or two of that. Okay. And then her gift to me was we're going to the Colts and Raiders game this Sunday. Oh, cool. We got Primo tickets down low and we're going to heckle all those no good rotten Raiders fans. How do you feel about that Colts, Colts, Cubs game? I like the Cubs tonight. I do. Only because you Darvish is on the other side. And you can't get beat by a dude that used to pitch for you. We're not going to go down to you Darvish. That can't happen tonight. Let's go James and Tyone and pull that thing out. Go Cubs. And then tonight, little Thursday night football, I got a little scratch. Got a little action on the under. It's not a sexy game tonight. It's San Francisco against the Rams, but I'm on the under 45 with that one. All right. Do not go anywhere. We've got the top stories of the day. Government shut down and update on old balls, Tim Walz, and a roast of me next. Hammer and Nigel. Do you believe these characters are weirdos? Oh boy, I don't even know how I'm here sitting in this chair in front of this microphone because of the government shutdown day two. How am I supposed to function? I didn't want to get out of bed this morning, I'm not sure what to do with my hands here.

Like, what's going on? Again, I walked through my neighborhood last night and I just put dust in the wind on repeat in my ear buds. That's exactly what I did when they took Tucker Carlson off the air on Fox News. Sitting on the swing like Narcos listening to Dust in the Wind. Pablo Escobar. I close my eyes. Just despondent, but the same reaction from the government shutdown. I think we're going to be okay. You mean I can't enjoy playoff baseball and Thursday night NFL and your birthday? And my birthday if the government is closed? No. No. I think you can enjoy those things. I think you're allowed. Somebody that's fired up about the government shut down is America's. greatest stock market mind that has absolutely positively nothing to do with insider trading Nancy Pelosi the greatest stock market mind our generation has ever seen narrator Or she was insider trading. She's fired up about this. Now, if we're going to talk about Nancy Pelosi, we need to have the official Nancy Pelosi music. Oh, that's unnecessary. Can't you see that old bag on a bike just peddling her little ass off right there? Nancy Pelosi gets a little upset when a reporter asks her if it's... Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that's pushing the Democrats to this very far left flank here. Oh. There's a lot of chatter that it's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez leading the charge because she wants to primary Chuck Schumer. Yes. The current face of the Democrats in the Senate. People feel like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is gunning for her seat. There are reports from like Politico and the Hill. that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is telling people just meet in my office and we'll talk about a strategy. Wow. So a reporter asked old lady Nancy Pelosi, who doesn't really like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. If you remember Nige when the big green deal was rolled out, whatever it was called. Yeah, she called it the big, the green, yeah, the green dream or whatever. The green dream or whatever. Nancy Pelosi, not a big fan of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, gets a little mouthy when asked if this whole shutdown is led behind the scenes by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. There was a thought from the Republicans that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is directing this. And she said that senators are welcome to go to her office directly. Is she driving that? Why are you saying such a ridiculous thing? I'm just quoting what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said. She said go to her office directly. Do you think there's any credibility to that? She is not directing this. She's wonderful. She's a real.

team player and the rest of that. You started by saying Republicans say that she's directing this. She is not how Hakeem Jeffries is. And this takes a lot of experience, a lot of unity from the caucus in terms of the point of view. And that's what this is. She's an articulate spokesperson for her point of view. She talks like this on TikTok. I definitely think we should do with government shutdown because I'm an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Let's get down to the nitty-gritty. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, hot or not, nudge. Hot. Kurt Gerald's. Hot. I hate myself for saying this, but that's three for three. Even if she's put on a little bit. You know what, so have I. That happens when you get older. A lot of people thought Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was knocked up. Not true. She just put on a little bit. That's okay. I disagree with everything she has to say. But, man, if I were single and it's a one-night type of situation, I'm going to hit it with the social sweetheart. Chuck Schumer is. Chuck Schumer is very scared he's going to get primaried by the congresswoman. There's a lot of chatter about that. So I guess that becomes the question. Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as bat crap crazy as she is? going to become the face of the Democrats. And before everybody laughs at that, if you're a Republican and you laugh and scoff at that. I still kind of do. She's a fundraising machine. She brings in more money than anybody. She appeals to a younger generation of Democrats. She's active on social media. I'm telling you, you can't laugh at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because people laugh at Donald Trump one point. Exactly. That was my point. You can't laugh at anything at this point in terms of who's running for office, who's going to get elected where president, senator, congressman, because Donald Trump did it in 2015 and they were laughing their asses off at him. Right. The minute he came down the escalator, they thought, what? The host of the apprentice running for president? Who could see that? And now he's in his second term as president of the United States. All I'm saying is Republicans don't get cocky because Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a threat. She has mass appeal to young voters. Now, you can argue whether or not. Young voters are idiots. We could have that conversation. But she appeals to them. They see something in her. And she raises a buttload of money. So keep an eye out for that. Meanwhile, on CNN, they're tackling the big issues in regards to this government shutdown. Really? Really? Host John Vernon, Berman, and Kaitlan Collins. They can't believe that during a government shutdown, the Trump administration,

is doubling down with memes, sombreros, and mariachi music, making fun of Hakeem Jeffries. And it's not just him. It's the fact that he's the face of the Democrats. He's the minority leader in the House. And this is part of the shutdown is they want, Democrats want health care for illegal aliens. Right. That's what it is. That's what this is about. It's about health care for illegal aliens. And the Republicans are like, no, we're not going to do that. So they're taking the face of the House Democrats, Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader, and they're doing a bunch of memes with him where he's celebrating people from other countries. They're putting sombreros on him. They're playing mariachi music. And boy, CNN, they were melting down. So we played sound from Vice President JD Vance, not just defending that AI racist video of manure leader Jeffrey's warning a sombrero, but also like celebrating. that video and it was playing on a loop in the briefing room today. It was not only just playing on a loop in the briefing room, if you've never been in the press briefing room for those who are having. There are loudspeakers overhead so you can hear announcements or what's being said or if there's an event going on with the president and the Rose Garden, for example. They were playing that myriachi music as well over the loudspeakers for all the press that was coming in and out of the White House today inside the press briefing room. It just kind of gives you a window, John, into how they're dealing with this and how they believe they have. upper hand when it comes to the messaging year. And this time, you know, there's a moment here. They're being heavily criticized over this, over these posts by the president, by Democrats. And instead of backing off or apologizing for it, they're leaning into it. And they're playing the music over loudspeakers and on repeat inside the briefing room because they simply don't care about that criticism. Imagine being that upset over Trump's social media putting a sombrero on Hakeem Jeffries. because he wants to take care of illegal aliens more so than United States citizens. They care more about the people here that are illegal. They don't have a right to be here than the people that are citizens. It's easy enough to understand. So earlier this morning, I put out on social media, it's the roast of me. Okay, it's my birthday today. I'm 48. Happy birthday, Bob. Thank you. God bless you. Thank you for the gift. Tomorrow. Oh, yeah, the gift, but tomorrow is the real, I think. It's the real party tomorrow. Yeah. But, no, you and Lindsay, I consider you guys family. And thank you guys so much. You're welcome. But I put out on social media earlier today. Screw it. Let's just do a roast. Bring it. So the most inappropriate comments we promise to read on the air. Nigel, you've got a printed out list of some of the comments. I posted a photo of myself at various ages. There's a picture of me as a fat kid with a Hawaiian shirt on. Oh, I saw it. High school senior picture where I look like the front man of a color-me-bad cover band and a picture of me now.

And the following comments that you've been gracious enough to a poll were posted on various social media outlets, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Okay. Here's one comment. It only took 48 years to grow into those ears. I'm assuming they're talking about that. So when I was younger, I was much thinner, and my ears stood out, right? That's why I got the Dumbo chant at the free throw line at that basketball game at Franklin Central. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Your local Toyota dealer has great deals available today on Tacoma, Tundra, and Forerunner with the space and features for any adventure. It means driving for less, with available hybrid options, delivering great MPGs without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles, meaning your truck will hold its value for years to come. Shoptojota.com to find out more. Toyota, let's go places. Who really just kind of doesn't care and despises you. Even I. Even I just, that makes me sad to hear. Okay. So it only took 48 years to grow into those ears. Here's another one. A roast of Hammer now that he's 48. The fat neck looks tired. My fat neck looks tired? I don't know what that means. My neck looks fat? Oh, man, that hurts. And I thought you, this is from Jay. And I thought young Rob Kendall had a punchable face. Yeah, I was certainly punchable back in the day. There's no doubt. This is from Nicole on your 48th birthday. The only reason I am here is to wish you a happy birthday is because I know your wife. Otherwise, I'd have no idea. Eat bleep. Oh, geez. Thanks, Nicole. Nicole told you to eat bleep in your happy birthday message. A word that rhymes with hit. Here's Jeffrey. Happy birthday hammer. The pride of all the trailer parks and beach grow. Oh, come on. That's unnecessary. That's really unnecessary. That's really unnecessary. This might be my favorite one. We could end with this. I don't know if you want to. There's some more on here, but Johnny says.

You look like you want to look like Jeffrey Epstein, but don't have the money to go to the island. Good God. Jeez. And that's just a small portion of the hate and vitriol that I've received. Hammer and Nigel presents. It depends upon what the meaning of the word is. Yeah. Is this anything? All right, let's rock and roll. Yeah, brought to you by Indiana Unclaimed, presented by the Attorney General's office here in Indiana, reuniting Hoosiers with over $1 million in unclaimed property every single week. Every damn week? Fast, easy, and free to search to see if you've got any money floating around out there. Just go to Indianaunclaimed.gov. Is this anything? Holiday Inn Express as testing a new scent-based alarm clock. It works like a diffuser releasing the scent of coffee, bacon, or blueberry muffins when it's time for you to wake up in the morning. But unfortunately, it's not in the United States just yet. It's overseas. Here is an influencer on social media talking about the new scent-based alarm clock. What if your alarm clock didn't sound like this? but it smelled like your favorite breakfast scent. Holiday Inn Express just launched the world's first breakfast alarm clock. It literally wakes you up to the smell of coffee, bacon, or blueberry muffin. No, I'm not getting woken up by, like, I love waking up to the smell of bacon and eggs. My wife gets up early and cooks breakfast. It's awesome, but it's the, it's the noise from the alarm that wakes me up. I'm just dreaming about eating pancakes at that point. If she's really cooking pancakes, then I'm just having a dream about eating pancakes. I'm not waking up. That's why you have the arousal in the morning. It's not because you're ready to go. You're dreaming about those pancakes and you're fat. When you say arousal, do you mean getting out of bed? Is that what you meant? I mean, things happen in the morning. I'm trying not to be too graphic for our audience here. Oh, thank you. I'm drawing the line here. This is nothing. Probably the noise and the alarm clock is the best way to get out of bed. Hell, sometimes even with the noise, I don't get out of bed. Like, I get, my hearing isn't the greatest. I've been wearing the headphones since I was 18 years old. My wife already understands I'm going deaf now, and when I get older, it's going to be even worse. So, yeah, if you don't think I'm getting up when I hear, ah, ah.

I sure as hell ain't getting up when I. Oh, is that bacon? No, come on. Do the last one here. Is this anything? Here's a viral video of an actress having a meltdown. Brittany Ray Carina, which I've never heard of. Do you know who this is? Carrera. Carrera? Do you know who this is? I think so. Nige, anybody? I think I know what she is. She had friends over for a viewing party to watch her scenes from the new Glenn Jerome Powell series Chad Powers. He plays baseball player. Football player. Oh, football player. Yeah. It's based off of what Eli Manning did years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So she's in that. She had a viewing party for it. And a couple of them were recording when she discovered that they reshot her scene. You'll hear who replaced her. And she was ticked off. With the dopest people, we got my... Wait, no, this is my scene. We've been together for a little like that. This is my scene. I'm responding to what he's saying right now. We got Haley, two up. Well... Wait, what? Two up? They literally, this is my scene. Sister! Did you come in later? No, this is literally my scene. I'm responding to him. You're filming this. All right. I'm going to make an announcement. You're not it!

Do you understand what's going on here? The Hawk Tua girl replaced her? In the scene. Wow. She was cut from the scene, this actress, and was replaced with Hock Tua. I don't know if it's real or not. I don't know. This girl's not in the IMDB credits or anything like that. I don't know if this is real, but that would be. A publicity stunt maybe? I would be. What a humiliation, though. What an awful. Just you think you've got your big break with Glenn Jerome Powell who played. He was in Maverick. He was in Twisters. And. Hock Tua replaces you? You shot the scene. They paid the money. They paid you to shoot the scene. And then they paid extra money to say, you know what, we're going to have Hock Tua in here instead. You're a professional actress. She got famous for talking about spitting on a crank. Oh, goodness gracious. And yet she is going to replace her. So the question becomes, do you think this is real? Or is this staged publicity for the chat power series? I think it's the latter. I think this is the latter. Like no way would she have the camera set up and like the audio that good for just people coming over to watch her scene. I don't buy it. I'm cynical. I think this is bull crap. That's just me. All right. Hey, jump on the YouTube chat. We need likes. We need you to get to the WIBC YouTube chat right now. We need about. 80 people, 80, to give us a like, to give us a thumbs up. Do it for me. It's my birthday today. If I've ever made you laugh, if I've ever made you want to punch me in the face, or somewhere in between. Go to the WIBC YouTube chat. Give us a like. Give us a thumbs up. We've got to get to 150. 150 is the magic number. 150 shuts up the 20-year-olds in our digital department that tell us all the time. You've got to get 150 likes. All right, fine, whatever. So please help us out. We need 80, 70 or 80 of you. More, if possible, to go to the WIBC YouTube chat as a favor to me. to hit that thumbs up and give us a like on the WIBC YouTube page. They're streaming the show. There's a live chat. This is The Hammer and Nigel show.

The Hammer and Nigel show. Oh, man, I feel like it's a Friday. My name is Nigel. Jason Hammer is here. Also a special guest live in studio. So Matt Baer joins us normally on Fridays. But if we're on the road, especially at a bar, Matt, tell me if you think this is overreacting on my behalf. I feel like it's inappropriate to you to come on and talk about supporting sobriety if we're broadcasting from a bar where we're promoting a drink special. I don't want to bring everybody down with my sobriety talk during the road show. That's perfectly accurate. Yeah, I think that's cool. But I love your stories. That's why we wanted you in here today. Hell yeah. Thank you for having me. And I'm not just blowing smoke up your rear end here. The word respect. I'm not just blowing vape up your red. The word respect gets thrown around a lot. And in this industry, in the radio industry, Nige and I have been doing this since we were 18 years old. In the city, give or take a few other pit stops. But for the most part, we've been in Indies since each of us were 18. I'm 48 today. Very few people... Can I say I respect you fall into that category? Because you put yourself out there. If it's embarrassing, if you've had a rock bottom low, you come on this show and you talk about it because you want to help other people. Yeah, that is correct. And thank you for the kind words, everybody. It's a case where, you know, you do something, you go through something, hell to get to heaven. And by sharing that story, you can help others. And that's all it is. The shame that I used to have. And, you know, we're talking, I'm recovering now. alcoholic and addict. And we have a podcast called Supporting Sobriety. And with that, we talk to the caregiver of people like me and my partner, Ryan Hendrick, the people we tormented through our use. So, you know, if you can reach one person, that's what it is. If you can reach one person, and thanks to you guys having me on, there are actually a couple of people I'm talking to right now and helping out. I'm taking a call tonight out when I get off work about 715. And yeah, it's a person that lives in Texas. All the way in Texas. They listen to the station. They listen to the podcast. Isn't that wild? It's crazy. And I don't mean to derail the conversation, but so many people around the country listen to this show, the Hammer and Nigel show. We've got people in Tennessee and Florida and California and Texas that tune in because whether they have ties to Indiana or not, they like the way that we present the information. It's so badass. It's such a blessing. And this evening, this guy and I will talk a little bit about our alcoholism. and after that we're just going to talk because that's what recovery is about just talking you know as dudes we don't we don't like to be vulnerable we don't like to get naked maybe not the word i wanted to use i'm sorry i love to be naked can i be honest with you you said something before that i don't like And I meant to bring up, but it just didn't have time the last time. We were talking about alcoholics and addicts in relapsing. And you said something to the effect of, if I have a relapse, I'm not coming back from that.

I didn't like that. And here's why, because you can come back from that. And this is from my perspective. I'm projecting if you ever relapse, and I know, and maybe you can expand on what you were talking about when you said that, I don't like that thinking because... because you could get back on the, you know, you could get right back up and pick yourself up again and start all over again. I'm very happy you brought that up. I'm just, I really, that stuck with me when you said that a couple weeks ago and we didn't have time to talk about it. I don't know, even though if you really remember or know what I'm talking about. I do. But you said you wouldn't. live past that or survive that. And I don't like that way of thinking. No, I don't either. You know, you get up, you're shamed, you go back into rehab and do the same things. Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong at all. And that's what you do. That's what recovery is. And coming back from recovery over and over again is some of the past, some of us take. And that's unfortunate, but it is true. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Right now, your local Toyota dealer has great deals available on some of the most reliable trucks on the market, like the off-road ready Tacoma, rugged full-sized tundra, and legendary forerunner, each with the space, tech, and features to handle it all from the work site to the trails. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid options available, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, meaning bigger savings at the pump without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. The Tacoma and Tundra are ranked number one and number two in resale value over all vehicles, according to Kelly Boo Book, which can mean thousands more than average right back in your pocket when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. I do relapse. I was speaking. for my own experience on that, which is all I can do when we talk about recovery. I don't claim to be an expert at anything. I know what my experience is with my alcoholism. I remember, guys, and I told this story. Well, I mean, you're an expert at recovery. Yeah, sure, sure. I trust you more than anybody that hasn't gone through it. Absolutely. And that's why I love working with Ryan so much as he complements my weaknesses on this podcast. Yeah, Ryan Hedrick, our morning anchor, and we really compliment each other well. I was thinking, and I still think about this, and I talk to people. recovery about this that day that I left work left here doing traffic W IBC when I was drunk as a monkey I always used to say through my alcoholism and doing traffic when I am drunk the words will still come you're good enough at this you know the roads well enough you know the map the words will come until that day the words didn't come anymore and that's when I picked up my bag

And I said goodbye. The newsroom was full. John Herrick was there. I believe I think Kurt was there. Madison McGill, Chris Davis, Shilah was there. They were all there. And I said goodbye. And then I took my bag with a half bowl of vodka. And I went down to my car and I got it and I drove home. Did it take a realization from yourself, or was it your boss yelling at you? Because, Matt, let's be honest, I remember one of the rock bottom lows that you had. You were on our air. You were drunk doing a traffic report. Nige and I kind of knew it. It was pretty bad. And then we got a phone call, like into the hotline here, off the air, where one of our bosses was like, you've got to get Matt off the air. Interesting. I didn't know that. And I may be telling you this for the first time. If that's the case, that's the case. No, let's do it. Let's do it. But I think you can understand, did it take a realization from yourself or one of your bosses saying until you get right, you can't do this job again? It was a combination. On that day that I left, and I went right on New York Street going back to Mass Avenue to my apartment, it was so... Surreal because how I remember these I wasn't a blackout drunk as drunk as I was I always You may have to remind me but I remember everything I made this right on to the one way New York Street It was so quiet. It was very quiet. I remember thinking to myself how much money do you have left to pay your rent? How much money do you have left to buy vodka over the next 30 days? Jeez I call that, and it's not my expression, and I can't say where I got it from, but it's called going to the bitter end, knowing you're going to the bitter end. That's what happens when an alcoholic in recovery dies and use is going to the bitter end, and that's what I was thinking of. That's what I was planning now. Here's what happened. Somebody here, I have an idea who it is, but I can't confirm it because I've never asked. The fact is it just happened. Somebody here called the cops. So when I get home, Okay, and I cannot remember if this was morning or evening rush. I believe it was evening because there was a knock at the door and the cops were there. And I was just so obliterated. Before they got there, I was just pulling off this bottle like a madman. I had it in my hand. Sure. I was drinking straight from the bottle like do, do, do, do, do. You know, it was just going down. There was no, it was just, I was just douncing myself with alcohol, even more drunk than what I normally was. And I invite the cops and we have a conversation to the best of my ability. And basically they were saying, no, we're not going to leave without you. Because there was a suicide watch here. So they cuff me and take me out of the apartment. Yeah, they cuffed me, take me out of the apartment and take me to a hospital where I was in detox. And, you know, when you're on suicide watch. Yeah, you have to go. Was it accurate? Like, were you in danger of harming yourself?

I was ready to go to the bitter end again with that. In other words, I was ready to drink myself to death. That was the plan. At some point, I would succumb. I gave myself maybe a month and a half, two months before I'd be completely gone. I mean, my liver was just sticking out of my stomach almost. It was so protruded. And my whole, and you could feel it in your pancreas, and you have, sorry about the detail of hemorrhoids, just in these patches of, I mean, I was getting close to expiration. What a change you've made, man. Well, thank you and God bless. What a change, because it doesn't look like that anymore. Right. I feel so bad that you are in so much better shape than I am right now. I'm trying to do everything. I still imbibe, Matt, and I hope that doesn't make you upset. I still have. beverages but man I go to the gym like I'm drinking this stupid big bottle of water that I drink multiple big bottles every day I'm trying to do everything right and damn it you still look a hundred times better you guys have lost a ton of weight you're taking care of yourselves I'm really happy for both of you and it's a it's a privilege to be on here doing this today but I bring these stories up and I tell these stories because I remember it wasn't so much that bad things were going to happen to me it was more of a thing nothing Nothing happens to you when you are in that. It's just great. There's no good. There's no bad. You're not happy. You're not sad. The only time you feel a little bit of happiness is when you're pulling off the bottle. That's what it is. We've been pretty heavy here. Can we take a break and come back? And I want your thoughts of the Colts game this weekend. Sure. Okay, and we got a clip from your podcast, too. I want to play. Could you come back for one more segment? I'd love to. Thanks for having me. Matt Baer, the traffic beast, joining us here. Man, nobody's more of an open book than this cat. Amazing. I got a couple things I want to get to you, Matt, but we got a short time to do it in. We got two minutes here. The Colts will be celebrating. Shack Leonard, aka Darius Leonard, this weekend at the game against the Raiders. He's announced his retirement from the league. He will retire as a cult. He's banging the an anvil. Your thoughts? One of my favorite cults of all time, and I've been a Colts fan forever, just like everybody else. I love Shaq Leonard. The guy was an absolute missile, a playmaker reminds me of my favorite cold of all time. Well, my second favorite cold of all time, and that's Bob Bernie Sanders, who was just an absolute beast. Just a little missile. Yeah, he was an absolute missile. And like this team now has Nick Cross, who I'm becoming a huge fan of. And Michael Pittman, Jr., who is just a man. It's an absolute man. So I expect him to Shalak Vegas this weekend. That's what I want. What sound bite from your podcast are we about to hear? Okay, we talked about the negative stuff before the break, but now this is the positive stuff, the beauty of it, the fun stuff. That's the joy of recovery. The thing is, when you're recovering alcoholic, you have to put it into work. And sometimes it's a little arduous, sometimes there's a lot to it. One of the recovery centers I was at, it was a step study. It was a step study for troubled children, except we were all 40. And we'd go through the NA workbook for step.

One, complete surrender in step one that your alcoholic and addict has to make. to begin their recovery journey and earnest. And there were 69 questions. Yeah, I know it's a lot of questions. And they were saying, yeah, if you write yes or no, you got to go back and do the whole thing again. You had to write out the answers. It was one of the most valuable teachings I've ever had to recover. Matt, I'm sorry. Oh, go ahead. We got about 10 seconds. I was just saying it was a fantastic experience in the world of recovery is a beautiful thing if you're ready to come. I'm so proud of what you've become, Matt. God bless you. Where can we find this podcast? You can find it. on any major podcast provider I use Spotify and supporting sobriety at sobriety underscore pod on insta. instant Instagram and X. And my partner is Ryan Hendrick. You can find him, it's sure to cover on Twitter. Anywhere you get your podcast, I hear that all the time, right? Anywhere you get your podcast, you'll find it. Supporting sobriety. Matt Baer, thank you so much, man. Happy birthday, Hammer. Thanks for having me, fellas. Thank you. I appreciate you, brother. Hey, coming up next, Tommy Piggott, he used to work with the RNC. He used to call it every week. Now he works at the State Department. He's got an update for us next. Hammer and Nigel. Do you believe these characters are weirdos. So let's rock! My name is Nigel. Jason Hammer right over there with a very special and familiar guest on the hotline. No stranger to this program, although the title is a little different. He's now the principal deputy spokesperson with the State Department. Tommy Piggett joins us. Tommy, good to have you back. How were you? I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on. It's been a while. Great to be back on the show. Your job affected at all by government shutdown that's happening right now, Tommy? Well, naturally it is. The State Department's affected. Naturally, there are people that are furloughed and our ability to be proactive, quite frankly, is sometimes hurt by this, our ability. to host events or reach out. Of course, we're doing everything we can to maintain our critical functions here at the State Department to maintain those services that we have to maintain. We're doing everything we possibly can. But of course, it's affected. It's affected by the sense that we're not able to do a lot of that proactive diplomacy. And I think the contrast that we're seeing from President Trump's leadership and really the conflicts he stopped, the foreign policy that he has put in places that's been yielding so many results, the contrasts we have there into what Democrats, congressional Democrats, and the fact that they oppose that congressional resolution. I mean, it really, the continued resolution, excuse me, it really is quite the contrast, I think, between the two. So what does this shutdown mean for the talks in the Israeli-Palestinian war? Because it feels like there were some real progress there. There was some optimism that maybe some sort of agreement could be made. There was a lot of chatter that.

But then the government shutdown took place. Do those talks end or what happens here? Well, we're continuing those critical missions. We're continuing trying to have those talks. We're continuing also trying to get to that peace agreement. I mean, the fact that President Trump announcing that historic peace plan that he put in place and then a few hours later having the shutdown talk, I think it also shows, I mean, to be quite frank, as secretaries in the passive set, Secretary John Kerry, secretaries under previous administrations have talked about the damage that shutdowns due to our foreign policy, the message that descends. And I do think it's quite ironic. for all the criticism misplaced criticism that people have leveled that President Trump saying that somehow he's undermining confidence in our foreign policy. First of all, nothing could be further from the truth, but a shutdown undermines that confidence in our foreign policy, if anything. A shutdown has an effect on our other countries view our foreign policy. So these critical missions are continuing. And thank goodness we have President Trump in office who's able to command the respect. of leaders on the world stage who's able to bring parties together. But there can be no doubt that shutdown, of course, affects how other countries view our nation. And critics of our administration, of President Trump's administration, of course, all of us serving under him, only have to look to previous comments from Democrat secretaries of state to show that this affects confidence in the government and really does do damage to how we viewed internationally. And thankfully, again, President Trump is our president and able to bring people together and command such respect on the world stage. Tommy, let's be clear. This shutdown is a direct result of the Democrats. So this is a Democrat shutdown, is it not? Yeah, I mean, there are facts here. I mean, there's a continuing resolution that is supported by President Trump. There's a continuing resolution that was passed by the House. And there's a continuing resolution that was blocked by the Democrats. This is a Democrat-led shutdown. That is a fact. That is just the facts of the matter. And they're shutting this down for unnamed reasons. I mean, the Vice President spoke so eloquently. to that just the other day, just yesterday. So, I mean, he really laid it all out there. So there are real consequences to how our country is viewed on the international stage. And it's unclear why this is even happening. I mean, we should have this continuing resolution. The administration supports a continuing resolution. And President Trump stands ready to sign a continuing resolution so that we can put this behind us and get back to work to actually solving conflicts and putting America first. Even though President Trump continues to this day, it's just this is one of those things. that is standing in the way and making it harder to do that. And Tommy, just so our audience is clear, there might be some folks listening that don't follow this kind of stuff as closely as we all do. Let's just say somebody tries to attack the United States or there's a world situation that takes place right now. Just because there's a government shutdown doesn't mean that leaders of the United States and the U.S. military are unavailable. Is that correct? That's correct. So we're talking about critical missions continuing. We're also seeing, for example, passport services and consular services, which are services the State Department provides. Those are also continuing. So we are doing everything possible to make sure that we are continuing critical missions here at the State Department. And I know that's the posture during a shutdown across the government to make sure that we are continuing these critical services.

There are opportunities that will be missed from a proactive standpoint, though, and that's just the fact of the matter. The fact that you have so many people furloughed, there are less people today at the State Department than there were when the government was open. There are less events that are happening. There's less proactive diplomacy that is happening. There's less trying to move the ball forward in so many different areas of the world. And a lot of work is happening at the State Department behind the scenes. Of course, there are the main issues that get the news coverage every single day. But lots of times, even those issues are the results of day in and day out, proactive diplomacy, the hard work of people out here at the State Department. And during a shutdown, a lot of that work has to come to a stop. So we're continuing the critical missions. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Your local Toyota dealer has great deals available today on Tacoma, Tundra, and Forerunner with the space and features for any adventure. It means driving for less, with available hybrid options delivering great MPGs without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles, meaning your truck will hold its value for years to come. Shop Toyota.com to find out more. Toyota, let's go places. We're continuing the critical services that we have to provide here that the American people need us to provide. But there is damage being done because of that lack of proactive diplomacy because of the shutdown. Yeah, you talk about the image of the United States on the world stage. We're speaking with principal deputy spokesperson Tommy Pickett of the State Department. I'm wondering your thoughts. Just generally speaking, your analysis of what Donald Trump's speech at the UN and how it was perceived on a world stage. Because I think it was pretty powerful. Yeah. It was very powerful. I think it was basically a wake-up call for the free world. It was a wake-up call for the free world, and it was a call to action for the free world. He identified key policies that have done such damage to our countries, and there have been self-destructive policies because there have been policies that have been put in place by a lot of countries in Europe and by the previous administration. President Trump coming in, thankfully, in reversing so many of those dangerous policies when it comes to climate extremism, when it comes to the open borders. solving those problems, the fact that we have zero illegal immigrants crossing the border four months in a row. I mean, that is the type of success of this leadership. But the speech called out the failures across the Western world and really was a call to action to defend our values. I think it was meeting this moment and the fact that it was received extremely well by leaders across the world and it was received with respect, respect that President Trump commands. So these were... Hard truths that have we said. This was a frank conversation with countries around the world. But countries understand what President Trump is saying. They respect him. They respect his leadership. And all you have to see is all the countries that are working with President Trump to solve problems to see that respect in action. So the speech was really a powerful speech. I think a historic speech outlining the way forward and some of the problems that we need to solve and policies that we need to stop as a Western world in order to really meet the challenges of the 21st century.

Tommy, before we let you go here, do you have an update? Because I think this story went very much underreported. The American who was wrongfully detained in Afghanistan, wrongfully detained in Afghanistan. I know the Trump administration, the State Department, they were working really hard to get this guy out of there. Do we have an update? I don't have an update for you here, but what I can say is our highest priority here at the State Department is the safety and security of the American people, both at home and abroad. And I can also say point you to that recent executive order, for example, that President Trump signed about giving new authorities, new abilities. to hold countries accountable who wrongfully detained Americans. We have been continually working to bring Americans home. We've brought a series of Americans home who have been wrongfully and unjustly detained, and we will not stop working until we see every American who's wrongfully detained brought home. That's a commitment from this administration. We've been working every day to live up to it and every single day working to provide the tools and another diplomacy necessary to achieve that goal. Tommy Pickett, the principal deputy spokesperson for the State Department. Tommy, thank you so much for the updates and clarifying things for us. And let's have this conversation again sometime. For sure. Thank you for having me on. Okay, let's forget it. Are you really okay with you? Are you okay? Everything's going to be okay. Are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine. I'm pretty fucking far from okay. Are you okay with this? On the Hammer and Nigel. Oh boy. This is, um... I like this. I think you're going to like this one, too, man. I used to hit up this place all the time before it shut down. Remember Chi-Chi's restaurants? Oh, I love Chi-Chi's. Went to the Chi-Chi's there on a West Side 38th and high school road all the time. Did you have one you went to specifically? Greenwood, 31 South Greenwood, right near the mall area. Chi-Chi's restaurants, they're back, a grand reopening of their flagship store in Minnesota. Minnesota doesn't deserve Chi-Chi's. I know. Tim Walz, old balls does not deserve. Omar doesn't deserve Chee-Chi's. They'll be selling their classic menu items, the chimichangas, the tacos, the deep-fried Mexican ice cream. Oh, the old Chee-Chi's jingle brings back such good memories. Are you okay with this? I love this. Not only am I okay with this, I absolutely adore this. It was Chi-Chi. where the coupon lady and I came back from our honeymoon. We went to Cancun, right? Yeah. And boy, we took...

part in all the festivities there. We went hard in the paint. We came back. We were still jonesing for like tequila and margaritas and Mexican food. And we're like, you know what? Let's just go to Chi-Chi's, man. And I used to love those big margaritas. Now, I'm not a huge margar guy. I don't normally just go out and say, let's have margs. But something about Chi-Chi's, man, they were so good. Well, there's many. Mexican restaurants back in our day as there are now. Because I feel like there's a bunch of mom and pop ones. Like there's two in Zionsville, right? I mean, within proximity of each other. There's a locally owned one called the Salty Cowboy. There's El Toro. There's El Mason. There's a lot of trucks, too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Mexican food trucks. I feel like there's many more choices than we had back in the day, right? Yeah. I mean, we had some big chain restaurants like Chi-Chi's no longer. around, but yeah, between the food trucks and the mom and pop places, you see a lot more of it now. And I'm not going to complain, man. Some Mexican food, it just hits the spot sometime, especially when you've had 513 beverages. But it's so, and then when you, it's, the beer's cheap. You go in and get like a 32 ounce glass. of Negro Medello and have them extra lime. And it's like five bucks. And the chips and salsa sitting there waiting for you when you get there. Right. Now, I do feel bad for every... waiter or waitress that works in one of these places because there's always the group of like suburban white chicks that go in there and they try to sound authentic. I want chimichengas. Then they smile at you with that nose crinkle like Stephanie Linda McMahon does. They probably see that all the time. But no, man, I'm on board with this. Like Ponderosa's my number one seed. If I could bring something back, it'd be Ponderosa. Interesting. But Chi-Chi's is right there. It's a strong two for me. Police in Florida pulling over a... Camry last weekend after it was caught racing a motorcycle at 3 o'clock in the morning. 124 miles an hour, Hammer. Camry was getting it. Driver claimed he was speeding because he, quote, had to use the bathroom. Ah, the good whole got to use the bathroom. Before my pants burst into foam, excuse. Here is policemen talking about the arrest. The Camry driver did not have a license. That's red flag, number one. Number two, this is all happening at three in the morning. Where they're going at three in the morning? I do not know. Are you okay with this? No. Are you okay with the excuse? Oh, no, no. That's like the textbook excuse, right? Sure. How many times on the average day does an officer who's out patrolling have to hear, why were you speeding? I had to go to the bathroom. Diarrhea. Diarrhea. I had to pee real bad. It was about to pee my pants, poop my pants. Unless you're Jerry Nadler, they're probably not buying that excuse. Unless you're Joe Biden, they're probably not buying.

That excuse me, Mr. Nadler, please, before you fill your pants, please move along. We've seen it before. We know you're not lying. We're going to let it go. Just don't do it again. Someone tells me this Camry, too, is like one of those cars that's all tricked out with like that loud muffler. If you're one of those guys. Right. Oh, let's just stop it. The 40 plus year old guy that still tries to have bass in his car. Is that still a thing? People still want to have the loud bass cars that go down the street. Like 1993, that was like a big deal. Like a big cabinet, like with speakers in it, in your trunk. Right. I mean, rappers were singing songs about it, you know. But now I don't know if that's the case or not. I think they make such good sound systems no matter what cars you drive now. They don't need them. I don't think they make them anymore. The only time I ever see those bootleg, just hoopty cars that have the big base that sound like crap that look like they just came out of a 1993 time machine, the Beach Grove Little League. The Beach Grove Little League. There's still going to be that one dad that pulls up in there blaring NWA as the kids were getting ready for a T-ball game. Man, I'm telling you, though, back in the day, I had the 12-disc changer in my... My trunk. That's strong. Like with the Alpine. Oh, my God. I went to this store called Ovation right next to Lafayette Square Mall. You were too fly for a white guy. Oh, yeah. I was way too fly for a white guy. So I saved up my pennies and got a 12 disc changer, had the Alpine, had some new speakers installed. I never had the cabinets with the giant like Sirwin Vegas or whatever. But I was that guy at the, do you remember Ovation? I do. I do. There's a couple of them across it. And boy, Alpine, that was about as good as it gets. Warren G used to rap about the Alpine speakers bumping as I smoke on the pound. I put all that into my $18,000 cavalier, by the way. Real quick. Keith Urban changed. My sound to quit was worth more than the car. Keith Urban changed the line in the song, The Fighter. He wrote about Nicole Kidman, who had just separated. Instead, he swapped in the name of his guitarist, Maggie, during the live show, fans are outraged, thinking she might be the other woman. This is the clip. I didn't hear it. You know, I don't want to. It's fine. The louder you turn it up, the more still sounds like a Keith Urban song. So I'm all right. Thanks. No, this is a big nothing burger. It's, now, who cares? All right. Speaking of, boy, people you don't want to turn up. Good God. Who let this guy in?

Rob Kendall's here. His shirt is off. He's yelling at me. I don't care at your birthday. Property taxes. Property taxes. Why does he always wear a bandana? I don't know. I want you to get up right now, then go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell. I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore. And now, Hammer and I'll go off the rails with Rock Gino. The noise pollution. My name is Nigel. Birthday boy, Jason Hammer, is here also turning us live in studio to go off the rails. It's Rob Kendall. Rob. How are you? Great thanks, as always, to our segment sponsor Garage Doors of Indianapolis. Hammer, can I just say this? And I mean, this is a compliment. Other than you being much fatter than when I first met you 20 plus years ago, you have maintained most of your youthful beauty and boyish charm. Well, thank you, Rob. I appreciate that. Youthful energy. That's what it is. 20 plus years ago when you met me, I was a guy that liked to gamble, swear, and pump chicks. Yeah. What's changed? Nothing's changed. I was going to say. I'm still here, baby. Same guy. I'm still standing as Elton John once. You know, I know I've told the story before, but I met, so I was the producer for the Indians. Yeah. 19-year-old Rob Kendall. That's how long Hammer and I have known each other. And on WX&T, Hammer was the weekend and filling guy on ZPL. And I used to go down and ignore the Indians broadcast. I'm sure I missed like 80 commercial breaks because I thought it was cool at all the chicks, the hot-sounding chicks that called Hammer. Oh, sure. gave me a great valuable life lesson. He once told me, he said, just because they sound hot doesn't mean they are. Oh, I've made that mistake too, my friend. The more you know, rainbow, cue it up right there. I made that mistake again, again and again. I never learned my lesson in my 20s. Never, never. Never. And it didn't seem to matter anyway. I didn't seem to care. They're not all tens. They can all be tens. And I don't care if they're not all tens. It was also what I learned you can trade. No, this was back in the days of email, right? But you can trade a nude for a song request. That's right. I never did that. How bad do you want to hear that Britney Spears song? It was a different time back then, Rob. It sure was. Decency standards aren't what they are today. No. Where are we at with the government shut down? Are you happy, you sad? Are you glad it's going on? We have no end in sight. But this is certainly from the Democrats doing, correct? Well, okay, so let's talk about what's going on here. The Republicans are taking a victory lap that they passed Biden-level spending.

I mean, that's. Is that the big beautiful bill? Oh, no. I mean, that's what that's what basically what they've continued the continuation has been is, I mean, they have taken, they've paired back a few of the Biden programs, but by and large, we're talking Biden level spending, which is why Rand Paul in the Senate voted against it because he said, look. We're supposed to be the party of low taxes and limited government. And every time we get in charge of anything, we just keep spending and growing the government. And it's such an odd flex that Republicans are presenting themselves as the good guys. We were promised Doge, right? Doge was going to cut a lot of that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And? It didn't seem to work out. Crickets. Yeah. Isn't that funny? Look, it never changes. So on one hand, you have the Republicans who are doing a victory lap now because the Biden government is now their new standard of how much government we should have. And then you have the Democrats who are like, yeah, the Biden level of government not enough for us anymore. We're going to need some more government on top of that. We are 37 trillion plus in debt. And nobody takes any of this seriously whatsoever. But does it come down to the issue, and it feels like it's come down to this, of the Democrats want a crap ton of money to go to the states so those states can pay the health care of illegal aliens? And the Republicans are like, We'll give the state's money, but you are not going to give it to illegal aliens. It feels like that's the one issue that we're coming down to here. Well, Republicans are wholly invested in Obamacare the same way the Democrats are. And what Obamacare is, is it was a massive expansion of Medicaid. And if you look at what the Republicans are doing, after 15 years of huffing and puffing and saying, oh, ObamaCare bad. Are we got to do this? And we got to do that. 15 years other than, let's see, two of those years. So 13 of the 15 years. Since Republicans took the House in 2010, they've had at least some control of the government. And they've done absolutely nothing about Obamacare other than in many ways to strengthen it. And so now what the Republicans are doing is they're saying, well, we're not opposed to keeping Obamacare going and fully funding Obamacare. We just need to pass this government funding thing first. Then we'll come back and do what you want in Obamacare. And the best part about this is they're quote unquote, they have the, what are they like working group now or focus group or whatever where a bunch of these senators are working together. Their new thing that they're going to sell in Obamacare is, well, We're pairing it back to where it was before 2020. So during COVID, massive amounts of people were thrown onto the Medicaid rolls. And it's all sorts of waste fraud abuse, which there was all sorts of waste fraud abuse before COVID. But now the Republicans' new victory lap they're going to take as, well, we're just pairing it back to where it was before COVID. But in terms of the shutdown itself, this can't go on forever. Why not? I think some people would like if it went on forever.

But it seems like, again, if I'm a pro-handicapper, or if I'm a degenerate next door here, the Democrats don't have the cards. They don't have the leverage. And they don't like Chuck Schumer. And that's a big part of this. Well, what they'll probably do. And look, Chuck Schumer is doing this because he's scared of that he's going to get a primary challenge from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. What is most likely to happen is this focus group, working group, whatever. They're going to cut some sort of side deal on Obamacare where they're promised a vote. And that's what will probably happen is they will then be promised to vote on Obamacare. They know the Republicans will pass it because the Republicans are just as invested in the legalized vote buying business as the Democrats are. And look, that's what Obamacare has become. Are your guys insurance any cheaper than it was 15 years ago? I free a load off my wife, so you'd have to ask the coupon lady. Me too. Both of me. Everything's more expensive. Of course. Everything's more expensive. What are you talking about? Obama promised your insurance wouldn't go up one dime. And then Hamer got fired because of Obamacare. Right. There's that. All Obamacare is is a massive giveaway to the insurance companies. That's all it's ever been. That's all that's happening with Obamacare now. Nothing got any better. Nothing got any more affordable. What happens is they take money from us. And then they give it to the insurance companies so that people can buy unaffordable insurance. That's all it is. Hey, what's it called? If you take money from somebody, you can't give it to yourself, you give it to somebody else who then gives it to you. There's a name for that. Money laundering. That's what it's called. That's what I'm speaking. And the Republicans will cut a deal. You watch with the Democrats, then in order for them to vote for this budget, they will guarantee a vote on Obamacare, which will pass. Okay, tinfoil hat here. Tell me if I'm completely out of left field here. I think there's a lot of Democrats that want Chuck Schumer to fail miserably here so they can replace him. They can primary him when the time comes around and this will be the death knell in the coffin. They can get a little bit younger. They can just go all in to the young, crazy, radical side, bring in Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, whoever it is. I think they want Chuck Schumer to fail. I think the base does. I think the institution, though, which almost always wins out. I think the institution is fine with Chuck Schumer being there. And so that will be an interesting battle. But we all lose in the end anyway. There's nothing either of these parties are doing to make life more affordable. There's nothing they're doing that's going to fix inflation. There's nothing that's going to make goods and services more readily available. And most people in the government are still working. Of course. And they're going to get paid when they come back. Like, I remember the first time the government shutdown happened in 2013. And I was all jazzed up about it. I was a young elected official. I was like, yeah, the Republicans are growing a bear. Let's go. And then whatever it was, they caved on and then everybody got their money. I was like, wait, people got their money to not work. Oh, yeah, that's how it works. Well, What the hell is that? So basically your first reaction to a government shutdown was how I felt after I bought that Manny Pachial Floyd Mayweather fight. You get all excited. You're ready to go. A comparison there. And then afterwards, you find out Pachial was hurt. They just kind of hugged each other for an hour. What the hell was that? Where did you guys? Did you watch it at your house? Did you actually buy? I don't think I went over to a friend's house. I paid $25 to get into Kilroy's.

in Broad Ripple. And there was lines. Every place had a line and it was like sold out. So you had to get there. This was the greatest scam and scheme in American history because everybody made out like bandits on this fight. Because you had to get there like six hours early. So you just had to sit there for the undercard and drink for like six hours and like a $100 bar tab by the time it was time to leave. And that fight, you're right. It was horrible. And the guy was hurt and didn't disclose it. Right. That's the thing that pissed me off more than anything else. Either cancel the fight and reschedule it, but don't go out. out there hurt and just go through the motions. Hey, can I tell you the switching subjects here? One of my favorite moments this week on the Kendall and Casey show, you were pissing Casey off because he said Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War, is kicking out all the women in the military. That's right. Yeah. This big grand speech that he made. But you did, but seriously, though, this thing with Pete Hegseth, you had a little bit of a problem with it, didn't you? At some point, when he was talking about the female perspective? Well, sometimes I just do things to see how mad I can make Casey. In case, you'll do this thing where she sticks her tongue in her cheek. Yeah. And she's like grinding her teeth over it. And I can see she really wants to say something. And it's like, okay, big girl, come on. You want to dance? Let's dance. And then she wisely decides not to dance. My issue with it is this. How many people do we actually have in the military? We've all heard about declining enrollment in the military, et cetera, because we've so demonized the military and we don't reward the military properly. If we have enough people to do the thing, which is engage in frontline combat missions if necessary, then fine. Kick all the women out that can't meet the standard. But I just don't know, do we have enough people now to be able to pull that off? And I did think the, the phraseology they used was highest male, was it like highest male standard? I thought, wow, talk about deliberately trying to piss a group of people off and make horrible headlines. Go for it. If we have enough people to do it, great. That was my only point in all this. I don't know if we do or not. Somewhere there's a guy that's had a drill sergeant in his face, like what he was going through basic, listening to you right now going, oh, the last thing we want us to have people get their feelings hurt. Somebody was probably called filth florin florn filth right to their face. Somebody went full metal jacket on somebody and we're going back to that. Look, I love that they've said the people in charge can't be big fatties and lazy people either. I love that. But I also wonder, though, like, okay, let's take Patton. during World War II? Schwarzkopf or Schwarzenauer, would they have met the physical requirement? I think they did a pretty good job. But look, if there's enough people, I'm fine with it. I just wonder in the era where it's so hard to get people to engage in the military if you're actually going to have enough people to pull off what you want to do, I guess we'll see. Hopefully we never see. Hopefully there are no, hopefully you don't have to send troops anywhere. I'm confused. by what the womenists won. That's what they called him in PCU, the movie, the womenist. Do you want to be treated like men? Do you want to be treated like everybody? Do you want to play the sports with the men? Okay. Then the standards are the same. You've got to pass the same test that this dude has to pass because if you have to rescue somebody from the field of battle, you got to pick him up and move them. Look, I don't have any problem with that. And at least we're finally admitting out loud that, hey, men.

biological men, all things being equal, are physically superior, stronger than women. Now, of course, it doesn't mean everybody that Rio Ripley chick from WWE could break me in half. Right. But I'm just saying generic man versus generic woman, at least we're admitting that out loud. And I think this is great. My only point on it was, do you have enough people to actually pull this off? And if not, how are you going to get enough people? Come back for one more? Yeah. Rob Kendall going off the rails. This is The Hammer and Nigel show. Back with Rob Kendall of the Kendall and Casey Show, 9 to noon here at 93 WIBC. So this story is making national headlines now. Like Trump's Deputy Chief of Staff on Policy, Stephen Miller was tweeting about it. The dude that has been arrested 99 times for various crimes here in Indy. Now he's charged with... stabbing somebody. It was an attempted murder. FOP President Rick Snyder joined us yesterday and said they've already lessened the charge of this. It was right there. They've lessened the charge of this already. I mean, this is laughable. You should be humiliated if you work in the prosecutor's office here in Marion County, but I got a feeling. They're not. Well, so this is interesting. A couple weeks ago, we played this clip. Josh Bain, who's a city county counselor, was interviewing one of these, I think it was a superior court judge during their budget hearing. And he asked about this issue about these people getting back out on the street. And the judge's response, like when you actually just listen to the words, not all that bad, right? Like he was making some decent points. I was trying to listen to it objectively. But he was so, like, flippant and arrogant. in his response back to Bain. And that was what really set me off. And it's sort of a microcosm of what's going on here in which everybody kind of points their finger at somebody else. Like the judges point at the prosecutor. The prosecutor points at the mayor. The mayor points at the judge. It's like everybody's pointing at each other instead of saying, look, we are a crisis point here. And we've got to come together and figure out what's going on. And hey, if we need the help with the legislature to do it, great. But nobody seems to be leading on this. And when did it? become such a bad thing to lock people up. Like somehow in this county, in Marion County, we went through a phase of where, well, we can't just lock up bad people for a long time. Why? How did we get to that point? Well, Andy, Marion County is toast, right? And the problem is you're like the last. true believer left, Hammer. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. You shouldn't have to. I'm Leo and the Wolf of Wall Street. Well, I mean, it's the same reason I'd love to get the hell out of Warehouseburg, but it's like, hey, wait a second, I was here first. I'm not leaving, right? But in terms of the people who have left Indianapolis, there's so few Republicans left that the Democrats can do whatever they want, and there's no ramification for their actions. And I hate to be a Debbie Debt. You know me. I hate to be a Debbie Downer. That's right. You're normally just a bucket of joy. But I don't see how this gets any better because I don't see there's a political will to put new people in to make the difference. I don't know how it gets any better. Special thanks to. Garage doors of Indianapolis. Happy birthday, fat boy. You guys are the best. Thank you. He's off the rails. That's Rob Kendall. This is The Hammer and Nigel show.

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