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It's that time. It's lock and load. The Michael Bari Weiss Show is on the air. It's Charlie from Blackberry Smoke. I can feel a good when coming on. It's the Michael Barry Show. Yes, it is. Yes, it is honored. You would let us into your life to join the show today. Come on, I know you hate when I do this, but I need to cut in them because I don't want to run out of time this. I know some of you really like the Sonic branding. You like the, you know, that's the kickoff to you Friday drive home. Hey, let me tell you something. From me to you, my heart to yours, if you just busted butt for a week and you just finished and you just walked out of the construction site or the warehouse or the school where you teach, or clean the floors for that matter because we got those listeners too. Or if you just parked your 18 wheeler after a long haul or maybe you just pulled over to catch a little shut eye for a while because you've hit that number. I forget what they call it when you've had your mountain. Now you have to shut it down and sleep for a while. Or you just finished your shift at the police department or the fire station or the plant. Man, be proud of who you are and what you've just done. I hear a lot of folks because they feel comfortable venting to me. And they feel like, man, why do I work so hard when the liberals are giving away everything I work for? Why do I work so hard when all I get is called a racist and all these different things? Let me tell you something. Tune that out. Sticks and stones. That's those people. I'm going to tell you something. The reason to do the right thing and bust butt and work hard and provide for your family and be a good employee or a good boss and work hard and be proud of the work you do. The reason to do all that is not to make Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez proud. It's not to make Jasmine Crockett proud or Nancy Pelosi or Gavin Newsom or hi, Tim Walz. You didn't really want their approval. You don't have it. You got nothing but criticism from them. But if you don't go stick your hand in the hole, they can't bite you. You don't have to listen to what they have to say about you. Because I'll bet if you're anything like me, what you've got to say about them is a whole hell of a lot worse than what they've got to say about you. Don't let those people get to you. Those people do not in any way diminish. The sacrifices you make, the hard work you undertake, the smart things you do, the strategic things you do, the kind things you do. I feel so bad because white people especially, black listeners and Hispanic listeners doesn't bother them as bad because everybody has somebody in their family that's been pulling in them for a long time. They're used to it. They got thicker skin. But these sweet white people, they'll email me, and you minorities know what I'm talking about. And they'll email me and they say, how come them to call me a racist? I've done this and I've done this and I don't think. Sweetheart, listen, they're not calling you a racist because you're a racist. They're calling you a racist because it gets to you and you're proving it right now. See, they're bad people and their only way to sleep at night is to keep you on your heels, to keep you afraid to criticize them.

This is a great opportunity to say, there I say it, there I say it, Ramon. This is a great opportunity to take a moment and say, damn it, things are going great in this country. We are participating in a modern day revolution. A modern day revolution. We're taking back our country. We're working hard. We're not just electing Donald Trump. We're not just electing better people to office, local, county, state, federal. We're taking back our schools. We're taking back our churches. But dead gum it, we're taking back our own homes. As parents, we're being parents again. We're teaching our kids, our values. We're sharing our faith because we understand. We understand what's at stake. We are unashamed and fearless in speaking out and speaking up. We're more vocal. We're more proud. Yes, proud. Pride goeth before the fall. That's a different form of pride. That is boastfulness. That is immodesty. That is greed and avarice and self-dealing and narcissism. I'm speaking of pride as in that emotion you have. That when you see things of which you approve and you care deeply about, you extol their virtues. You know, that very word has been co-opted by different communities to change the entirety of its meaning. Look, I'm not your self-help guru. I'm not your pick-me-up drink or pill. I'm not your rah-rah patriotism guy, although I am all those things. I'm just a guy trying to look out there taking a lot of feedback from a lot of you and saying, hey, wait a minute. Let me tell you something. Life's what happens when you're on the, what's the line, Ramon? Life's what happens while you're busy making other plans. People attribute that to John Lennon. It's not. It comes from 1967 before he heard it in the 70s. It wasn't John Lennon. Okay, I'm not going to fight with you on this, okay? Please don't ruin my moment. Have it a moment. Please don't ruin it. But I'm going to tell you something. You're going to look back on these days. You're going to look back on them. And I'd hate to think you look back on these days and didn't enjoy them while we were having them. I know a lot of people, it's like a sporting event. You know, if we start celebrating the touchdown, the pick six, when we're running it in, we start celebrating on the 15-yard line that we won't remember to score. Or if we start celebrating, we'll get lax and they'll come back and beat us. That's not what I mean. I mean, what you're doing is glorious.

Take stock of it. It's important we get some wins. It's important we get some wins so we understand we can win. So many of our people, not you, but the naive neighbor, the independent voter, the frustrated base voter. So many people were demoralized. They'd had the fight sapped out of them. We have one. We are winning. These are good days. Celebrate them. Enjoy these moments. Share the successes. Relish them. Not because they're going to end. We're not going to let them end. We're creating a better country. And when America's better, the world is better. We're creating a better world. And that's something to be proud of. You are part of that. what you do, the way you do it, taking care of you and yours, just take a moment and be proud of yourself because nobody else is going to tell you to. This is the Michael Bari Weiss Show. If you were to ask the everyday American, you're one of the everyday Americans, but the everyday American is a lot less politically connected and informed than you are. But if you were to ask the everyday American, what do you care about? If you watch television... You'd think the everyday American is very, very, very, very concerned about men who think they're women and women who think they're men and making sure that taxpayers are paying for them to lop off their weenie and get a bunch of hormones and dance around little children and take every job and for boys to go into girls' locker rooms and for boys to compete against girls to the point that they injure them. And that when these trainees rape children, that's okay. Let's not judge trainees. And let's make sure the trainees can kill as many children praying as possible. And please don't misgender them. Those are the kind of things you'd think people care about. But there is what Nixon called a silent majority. There is a, the vast. majority of Americans. And I think it's above 60% on most issues I'm thinking it may approach 70%. Care deeply about certain things. And getting the drug cartels out of our country and getting fentanyl and their drugs out of our country, that matters deeply to Americans. And that's part of why there are a number of Republicans. who've changed their position on marijuana because they understand the drug that scares us least, keep it out of the hands of kids, and stop smoking it in public. It pisses people off. You know, marijuana users are their own worst enemy. What they ought to do is self-regulate. If you're ever in a public place, and if you go to Colorado, you're going to see it, in California, you're going to see it.

If you're ever in a public place and you smell marijuana, people ought to go grab that guy by the ear and drag him out of the place. You're ruining it for everybody. Do you know how many of our listeners tell me, hey, I'd be okay with legalizing it or at least decriminalizing it, but they smoke it in public. Well, places that are serious about it just prevent it being smoked in public. I mean, that's not that hard to do. It's not that hard to enforce because it smells rancid. Burning rope is a nice way to say. There's a whole lot worse than that. It smells filthy and nasty and awful. Stop doing it in public. Period. End the story. When you do that, then people won't mind you smoking your pot. But oh, no, no, we got to smoke in public because we couldn't for so long. Now we have to show that we can. And so what do you do? You lose everything. Like a child. Like a darn child. I want to take stock for a moment because you can't manage what you can't measure. And I want to talk about... what the cabinet secretaries are doing, some of whom I've been very critical of in the past. And by the way, I will be again. I am in a very different position, mindset and job than many of you. And if you think I'm a guy who is going to say, well, that guy's a Republican. So let's root for him. Don't criticize him, Michael. Just criticize the Democrats. That's how you get in trouble and you end up with a guy like John Cornyn who kept getting reelected. He's not going to, again, who kept getting reelected because he'd come home and tell you, he was just like you. Boy, he loves the Lord and boots and cowboy hats and dust and a six-shooter, pion, pio, and everything. Maybe I have a steak, good quality toilet paper rolled the right way, not the wrong way. And then he'd get to D.C. and cut deals with Democrats. And people didn't want me criticizing it. Now, people have had enough. We're going to send him away. But when you take stop of this cabinet, Tulsi Gabbard is doing great work. Pete Hegseth said that what's going to also be known, the Department of Defense, as the Department of War, as it once was, he's telling our warriors, hey, man, we got your back. We may have to send you to war. We hope we don't, because we're not the warmongers. The other side is. But when we do, we're going to have your back. And we're not going to have some fat lesbian woman that can't carry her weight there beside you to risk your life. We're going to have soldiers and warriors and sailors and Marines and corpsmen. We're going to have folks that are just as good as you, just as trained as you, just as prepared as you with the best equipment in the world to fight war. We hope we don't have to, but when we do, we're there to win. That's what our men and women in uniform want to hear. They didn't sign up for a DEI course. They didn't sign up for the runt in the group. This ain't an AA meeting. This ain't some, you know, losers are us. Well, I thought I was a boy and now I'm a girl. So I've colored my hair green, put a bone through my nose, six through my ear, and I put 40 tats on my face. Do you all love me or hate me? What do y'all think? Oh, we love you. What's the name we should call you? And what are your pronouns? Well, I haven't decided. I think it might be a furry. That's what our military had become. That's nonsense. That's got to stop. That's got to stop. And I'll tell you, what Trump has done is not only get good people to serve, he's pulled in people who are untraditional. The Mike Pence is we're done with them.

I didn't like Mike Pence as his vice presidential candidate running mate the first time. Because Mike Pence is one of those guys that we have seen for a long time. Let me tell you who Mike Pence was. Mike Pence was a guy who gets his haircut every week. That hair's always got to be taken care of. Gets his nails polish the whole thing. Gets his shoes polished downstairs below the Capitol building. Has the right color blue suit. and the right red tie, and he'll have his American flag, and he'll come into every meeting and say, I love God, and I oppose abortion. And they go, amen, all right. And then he goes out and doesn't do a damn thing. Loses every battle to the Democrats and doesn't care. I love God and I oppose abortion. Okay. And never even actually tried to get abortion stopped. It's just that's all he'd ever say. And everybody thought, well, he's just like me. He opposes abortion. Yeah, but he's not doing anything else. He's not even really opposing abortion. What Trump has done is pull, but you know, he gets a lot of criticism over pulling people that have been on TV at Fox. But you know what's noticed? You know what I've noticed about all this? There are people who know how to conduct themselves in front of a camera. Jeanine Pirro is good in front of a camera. Pete Hegseth, good in front of a camera. Marco Rubio has turned out to be pretty good in front of a camera. Of course, he spent some time there before that. Christy know him? She's made up and ready in the whole image. And, you know, the only one that's not good in front of a camera is Holman. And because he's so bad, it makes him great. If he was any better, he'd be worse. because he's so authentic and raw. He's got a little speech impediment. He's fat, kind of slur. I mean, he kind of has a Lou Holtz thing going on. And you're like, yeah, that guy's kicking illegals out of here. Get after him. And that's exactly what I want. I mean, there's a certain old-fashioned Old West law man to him. I just want to say I'm very proud of this cabinet. I'm very proud of it. The Michael Bari Weiss Show. The Michael Barry Show. Our little podcast is the podcast that could, the little engine that could. You know, when we started, it was just a simple rebroadcast of our show. And they would take it over and put it on this new podcast platform. I didn't think anything of it. Before long, we started hearing from people all over the country where we don't air on the radio in the town where they are. And I would say, well, how are you hearing us? Did you find us online? And they say, no, I was on a podcast. Or as happens for more than anything else, somebody sent me an email and say, hey, check out this podcast. He's from Houston, talks a lot about Texas, but talks about national stuff, and I think you'll like him. And that's how our little podcast grew to be one of the top in the country. It's pretty cool. And so we have show sponsors on the radio. We have show sponsors on the podcast. One of them's a good buddy of mine. His name is Ray Breyer's. And he owns the Pipeyard Inc. And what he does on his cell phone is people call and go, hey, I got a 118 mile pipeline going through Louisiana into Mississippi. And he says, all right, let me go check it out. He goes out. He rips that pipe out of the ground all the way.

And he goes off and sells that to somebody else who needs the pipe. It's a beautiful process. And people call him all from our show, from our podcast, all over the country. Thepipeyard, inc.com. 409-788 pipe. 409-88 pipe. Talk to Ray, the pipe, ma'am, a good buddy. I'm on testosterone, and I encourage everybody else to be on testosterone. If you're below 350 on your testosterone level... Very good chance your insurance will pay for you to have it. You know why? There's a lot of studies that say it's very good for you, not just your sex life, but your energy, your strength, all sorts of good things. Do your own research. Don't trust me, but you should do your research, and you should get your blood panels checked, and they'll do all that for you at synergenics. Go to fixmylote.com. Fixmylote.com. Our newest show sponsor here on the podcast. And it is enterprise foundry.com. They pour all grades of ductile and gray iron. Don't you love saying that, Ramon? Castings up to a thousand pounds. Nobody does this on American soil anymore, but they do. They specialize in low to medium volume, in-house pattern shop for fast, low-cost tooling. And they love the Michael Bari Weiss Show, and they share our values, and you want to do business with people like that. Enterprise Foundry. Well, the illegal alien detention centers are popping up all over. There is the corn husker clink in Nebraska. And now the Louisiana lockup opening on the grounds of Angola Prison, which was once dubbed the bloodiest prison in the South. Department of Homeland Security says it will house some of the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens. Louisiana lockup is the latest facility to be converted into an iced attention facility after the aforementioned Cornhusker Klingk and Alligator Alcatraz in Florida. I think they're opening another one in Florida. And the Speedway Slammer in Indiana, the Louisiana lockup story from Fox News. We are right outside the notorious Angola prison here in Louisiana. A section of this prison is going to be turned into an iced detention facility and it's going to be called Louisiana lockup. Now Fox is the first to report that 51 illegal migrants have already been moved here. Louisiana lockup is going to hold up to 416 beds. The Department of Homeland Security says they've partnered with the state of Louisiana. They are using this unused section of the prison to detain and deport some of the worst of the worst illegal migrants. Now, Angola is the largest maximum security prison in the country. It was once named the bloodiest prison in the South for its harsh conditions in the 1960s. Louisiana lockup is funded by the Big Beautiful Bill, which gave ICE an additional 80,000 detention beds to help ramp up deportations. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem sent us this statement, quote, thank you to Governor Landry for his partnership to help remove the worst of the worst out of our country. If you are in America illegally, you could find yourself in Seacot, Cornhusker,

Plink, Speedway Slammer, or Louisiana lockup, avoid arrest and self-deport now using the CBP Home app. And Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry said, quote, criminal illegal aliens, beware. Louisiana lockup is where your time in America ends. Louisiana lockup will give ICE the space it needs to lock up some of the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens. And DHS says they will be housing violent illegal migrants like these recently arrested by ICE New Orleans, including murderers, rapists, and traffickers. Take a look at this 22-year-old illegal migrant. Honduras recently arrested in March. She had warrants for 394 counts of pornography involving juveniles and two counts of sexual abuse of an animal. Again, it is illegal migrants like that that DHS says will end up here in the Louisiana lockup later this afternoon. The DHS Secretary Governor and Attorney General Pam Bondi will be here to make this formal announcement. My, my, my. I could see this as a category on jeopardy. Ice detention facility nicknames. They give you the state. You have to give the nickname. So you've got the Louisiana lockup. The Alligator Alcatraz. Speaking of the Cornhusker Klink in Nebraska. You've heard about Alligator Alcatraz. Here in Texas, we love Lone Star Lockup. Now, illegal aliens headed to the Midwest. Get ready for the Cornhusker Klink. Oh no, not another dinner made of corn. Corn on the cob, canned corn, corn pudding. How much more corn can a man take? This is pure torture. And if anyone thinks of escaping, good luck. Just wait until one of these jokers want to try and escape. My uncle Bart's farm backs up to the corn husker clink. Boy, do I have a surprise for these guys. Got the old John Deere out and created a corn maze in the face of our great president Donald J. Trump. They'll be lucky to get past his hair. And coming soon, the Pennsylvania Poking. Kansas Cooler, Louisiana Lockdown. We could do one in every state. Be fun to name it. The point is we've got to get the bad people out of this country who are in here illegally. Fighting crime and restoring order feels like a... Kind of a garage or barn find, doesn't it? Get to keys. Let's fire it up. Let's wash it down. Let's make this thing home again. Or a renovation project with Chip and Joanna. I mean, it just makes you feel good. Our country's coming back. You can walk the streets at night. There's a pall that is cast upon a people when crime runs rampant. You know, I was thinking,

The Louisiana lockup, wouldn't that be the darndest thing if Shirley Q Licker had a family member that was an illegal alien and they put this thing near Faraday or Faraday, as she says, and she had to go visit them? Thank you for calling, Gordon. N-D-U-R. What's the inside where you be leaving from? Orange, Texas. Orange? Uh-huh, and I need to go over at Ferdy, Louisiana. Verden? F-E-R-R-I-D-A-Y, and it's me and my 19 children's, and we need to leave Monday morning. Are you leaving from Odessa? No, Orange. U-R-A-O-R-A-M-G-E. And my sister and her husband staying third. And she wanted us to come up there. She's been wanting us to come over. We just hadn't went because of her attitudes. Frankly, that's the problem. She just, she won't act wrong. I don't know why she just gets like that. But now she wants to make up. So she'd say, well, y'all come on. And with all these children, I want to make sure of the price before I'd book it. Okay, you don't book tickets. You go to the terminal at least one hour prior to buy your tickets. How old are the children? Oh, Lord. Listen, the youngest one is five. Oldest one about 17. Okay, he rises as an adult. The 17 do? Uh-huh. And how about 16? Okay, ages 2 to 11 ride as children. I think they're all under 11. Okay, ages 2 to 11. Give me the price on that. Okay. And I might bring my good friend Watusa Jenkins for Mars to part, so check for two adults. If you have a calculator, what would the total be for 19 children, me and Watusi, from Urns to Fair to Louisiana Bank. Okay, ma'am, I don't have a calculator with me. Just approximate it for me. Okay. Y'all going round trip? Uh-huh, yeah, I guess I, unless someone want to stay with her. I don't care. If they want to stay in her house, that's bad. But I want to buy them for round-trip. Okay, for two adults, round-trip will be $204. Oh, Lord, okay. That's with the adults, two adults. Uh-huh. Okay, with 19 children round-trip, $51 times $19. Is what? And that's how much it's going to be. How much is that? I don't know. I'm not very good with math. I don't have my glasses on. How much would that be approximately? 969. Oh, jeez. Lord. Well.

I'm going to have to call her to ask her what she's spit it with me again. Okay. And I don't need to make a... That's first class or coach? Um, it's no first class of coach in, um, Greyhound. It's first come, third. Oh, okay. Thank you, darling. Have a good weekend. Tell your mom and am I asking how she do it. Okay. I said, arrest me or take me to Texas, because I'm ready to get out of this state. I think Michael Barry rock. The Michael Barry Show. I like it. There are certain things from history that you don't just say, well, that's history and move on. The Holocaust would be one such example. The coronavirus and the quote-unquote vaccine and the mandatory jabs and the lives lost, the lockdowns. These are things you don't simply move on from. You learn from. But before you can learn from them, you have to face painful realities. And you have to picket a wound that a lot of people want to move on from. That's not how you progress. George Santayana famously said, those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. Often the very people who want to, quote, move on, don't want to bear responsibility for what happened. Nick Saban and other coaches will tell you that some of the most important coaching you do of a team is not during the game, but after the game. When you come in and watch that painful game film and you see what you did that you hope nobody noticed and how you failed here and came up short there. It is very important that we go back and understand what happened on January 6th of 2021. It's important that we understand what happened and not be told what happened by those with an agenda, but that we do our own research and we ask questions of various people. One of the most important voices in all of that who has seemingly been silenced officially is Stephen Sund, who was the Capitol Police Chief at that time on that day, and he's our guest. Chief, welcome. Thank you very much for having me on, Michael. Let's start with how you ended up the Capitol Police Chief. Leave January 6th aside. I think you were a Metro police officer in D.C. before that. Talk about your career. Why did you get into law enforcement? Do you have family in it? And then just walk me through your whole career there. Absolutely. I mean, get this through as succinctly as possible. So I did 25 years with the D.C. police. And I got into policing because my dad had actually gotten sick early on. He had got leukemia. There was a B-52 pilot. He had been sick for a number of years, but passed away when I was 16. So after we got back from the funeral, we just happened to be visited by two friends of ours that we used to live right nearby in California. uh, that became Fremont police officers, uh, Carolyn Brad Brannini. I still will say in touch today. Um, they had reached out, uh, and he came visit. This was the same day that we had buried my dad. Um, and as a young 16 year old, as a very pivotal part of my life, I looked at him, said, you know what? I think I know what I want to do. Uh, and from that point on, I was pursuing.

Right around 23, I applied to the couple of different departments, but D.C. police picked me up. I started there right around 25. By the time I went into the academy, got out and patrolled as an officer in what they call the 6th district, which is Anacostia, one of the most violent parts of Washington, D.C. was there for a couple of years. Made sergeant went to 70, which is also one of the most violent parts in Anacostia. South Antacostia down by South Capitol Street, Congress Heights, patrolled there for a little bit and then started rising up through the ranks, became a lieutenant. And then I got assigned downtown for a little bit and went to Special Operations Division where I kind of stayed from lieutenant on doing all the major events, major demonstrations in Washington, D.C., made Captain Inspector being commander of the Special Operations Division from 2010 to 2015. And that's when I retired at the end of the very last day, December 31st, 2015. I retired. We had the Pope come visit in October, and I figured it's a good time to head out. went out and, you know, kind of worked a little bit in the private sector for just about eight months. And then the House and Senate Sergeant Arms approached me to come over and become the assistant chief of operations for Capitol Police. And January 7th, I started, in 2017, started at the U.S. Capitol Police, just a few days before Trump's inauguration. And I'd been involved in, that's probably my fifth or sixth inauguration I've been involved in planning of. So they brought me in right before that and was there. And then in May became the May of 2019 became the chief and started revamping a lot of operations and capabilities. And then January 6th happened. And I was removed from the position the very next day by Nancy Pelosi. And I'm sure our conversation is going to cover a couple of things along there. Absolutely. But before that, let's set in place our procedure. So we know the context within which we're working. I was with Ted Cruz at an event in Milwaukee a few years ago, and he had a large contingent of Capitol Police. And I learned that those are assigned based on kind of death threats. And it's all on a screen. And it turns out he was getting more death threats than Nancy Pelosi and every other member of Congress combined. And it was kind of interesting to me that that was, you know, that unlike the president, which is kind of, you know, designated secret service for the president, it was sort of where is the threat right now? It might be Jasmine Crockett on Monday. It might be Ted Cruz on Thursday, whoever that might be. But talk to me about how the Capitol Police Chief is hired and to whom they report and take orders. Okay, and you're absolutely right about what you just mentioned. We do statutory security details for the leadership before on the House and the Senate side and then others based on the threat. So you're absolutely right there. So the Capitol Police Chief, and it's interesting, it's not like any of the police chief in the country. I report to a Capitol Police Board. They're the one that hire and fire me. We'll get into that too.

They're the ones that really have the hiring authority, but they only do it with the approval of Senate leadership and House leadership. So when I was first hired, you had... Let's see, Chuck Schumer was over on the, for the chief's position. Chuck Schumer was over on the Senate side, and Nancy Pelosi was on the House side, and they both had to approve my hiring for the position. So you go through, and what's interesting to understand is the Capitol Police Board has made up of four individuals, the House and Senate Sergeant Arms, who are considered to be the lead law enforcement agent for the House and for the Senate. So when you think of the chief as the top law enforcement official for the legislative branch, I'm sorry, when you think of the chief as top law enforcement official for the legislative branch, that's not the case. The Senate and the House Sergeant Arms actually are above me. The third person in the Capitol Police Board is the architect of the Capitol, and then the fourth person is the chief of police. The three people that are politically appointed, the House and Senate Sergeant Arms, the Eric Second Capitol, all have a vote on how things go for the Capitol Police. And they control everything from the schedules, which doors we cover, which equipment we can use. If I want to get my officers tasers, I had to go to the Capitol Police Board and get approval, and I had to go to my oversight committee and get approval for them if I wanted to, like, deploy fencing. I got to go to the Capitol Police Board. If I want to, everything, pretty much all operations has to be approved by the Capitol Police Board. That just gives you a little bit of an idea of what I'm dealing with as the chief. It's very political, it's very political because they, the House and Senate Sergeant Arms, who carry mostly weight, don't want to do anything that's going to upset their congressional leader. So we may be having a hearing on the Supreme Court justice being nominated, and I want to put up certain fencing. Well, one side may want no fencing put up so protesters can come in and, you know, problems or, you know, the other side may want to shut down all the buildings in public entry, so we don't have to protest. I think that's going to be a good segue into our next discussion point. Our guest is Stephen Sund, who was the... Chief of Police of the Capitol Police on January 6, 2021, that fateful day. We'll talk about his perspective, which I bet you haven't heard and may be surprised by coming up. Our little podcast is the podcast that could, the little engine that could. You know, when we started, it was just a simple rebroadcast of our show. and they would take it over and put it on this new podcast platform. I didn't think anything of it. Before long, we started hearing from people all over the country where we don't air on the radio in the town where they are. And I would say, well, how are you hearing us? Did you find us online? And they say, no, I was on a podcast, or as happens for more than anything else.

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