06-25-26 FULL SHOW - Calm Down About Data Centers, Please

This episode sponsored by Jace Medical. It's 11 p.m. The pharmacy is closed, and you need meds now. That's exactly why Jace Medical helps you prepare before emergencies happen. With the Jace case from Jace Medical, you can get 10 emergency medications and treatment options for over 50 infections shipped to your home after an online physician evaluation. Whether you're traveling abroad, stuck during a storm, or dealing with a fast-moving infection, Jace Medical helps you have medication on hand when it matters most. Go to Jacemedical at jace.com. That's jase.e.com. Join the thousands who trust Jace Medical and get your Jace case now at JASE.com. The Mandy Connell show is sponsored by Bell and Pollock Accident and Injury Lawyers. Now it's Mandy Connell. Mandy Connell. 8.50 a.m. 94.1 FM. Welcome, welcome to the next three hours, Mandy Connell keeping ignorance at bay. Welcome, welcome to a Thursday episode of the show. I'm your host for the next three hours, Mandy Connell. That guy over there, he's Anthony Rodriguez. We're going to take you right up until 3 p.m. And I have a massive blog today and some really good stuff on the blog. We have multiple Supreme Court decisions, multiples. And some of these are big and some of them have implications for Colorado and Denver's rules about public property and carrying firearms. So let's jump right in. And if you have not subscribed to the substack blog, first of all, I just want to let you know. And I'm not trying to make you feel bad about yourself. I'm just saying all of the cool people have already subscribed. So if you want to... You know, roll with the cool kids. Maybe sit at the cool kid table. I don't know, whatever works for you. You can go and do that right now at mandiblog.com. That's mandiblog.com. Look for the headline that says 625-26 blog. Calm down about data centers. Please. Click on that. And here are the headlines you will find within. You're mean. Good evening, Mr. Mr. North and South American. All the ships and clips are at sea. Let's go to press. Today on the blog, data centers are as necessary as breathing. I guess I'm not invited to VIX election party. The Democrats have a real problem with the DSA. Venezuela got rocked by a massive earthquake. This... is the radio business. Will the fed save us from Colorado's idiotic electrification plans? More Colorado Medicaid fraud is uncovered. Speaking of Medicaid fraud, the economy grew at 2.1% in the first quarter. How does Jeffco's schools keep hiring sex offenders? But Jeffco's schools is protecting boys in girls' spaces instead. How long before a wolf eats a dog in Boulder? Some love for the Amazon driver? Children's Hospital is following the children's gender.

mandates. The case for bell-to-bell cell phone bands in schools. Ms. Frizzle is coming to life. Drought and fire restrictions put a damper on fireworks. Shut up, Mark Kisla. Yes, today's music is raunchy and mean. Trump inserts himself into World Cup. Arod saw Toy Story 5. Asylum seekers lose at the Supreme Court. Haitians and Syrians lose at the Supreme Court. Gun grabbers lose at the Supreme Court. I guess you can enjoy the view while you're there. That one is one bitter dog. Why just Canada subway? And holy smokes, get in my belly. What phrases repulse you? Those are the headlines on the blog at Mandy blog.com. No s necessary. A winner. Thanks, Nancy. Thanks, Nancy. I got a lot of stuff on the blog today. And I kept seeing things and going, oh, that should be on the blog today. Okay, can we start just briefly for just a moment in time with a word of gratitude to whomever decided to make us more with a croissant? My mouth has been watering since I saw this this morning, Anthony. Yeah, it's pretty good. First of all, I'm disappointed in myself. that I didn't think of this. How did this not cross my mind? Because there is nothing better than chocolate with a croissant. Nothing. So good. And this over falling apart graham crackers all day. Yeah. Easily. Yep. There you go. A million more carbs and calories. But, you know. I'm going to have to put this off until I'm done with my weight loss phase of soda. It's going very, very well. Thank you very much. A couple of things I want to jump into. One, Ross Smith used to be a coworker of Arod Nyes. He was one of our engineers. He has spent a long time in the data center business. And he sent me an email yesterday and said, hey, I don't know if you're following along about the data center near Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs. And I have been following along from afar waiting to see what was going to happen. He said there's so much misinformation about what's going on. I made a website and I've helped build data center. So I know what I'm talking about and not just some guy spouting off. So he's got an entire website devoted to the Garden of God's data center proposal. And it's so good. So we sent this to me yesterday and I said, no, you got to come on tomorrow and talk about it because this is not just about the data center in the springs. This is data center anti-data center sentiment. is being driven by social media. And guys, I just asked Michael Brown. I was listening to Michael Brown on the way in. And I said, Michael, I heard you talking about China and then building all these nuclear power plants. Are you also talking about the fact that China has been feeding anti-nuclear propaganda to the United States and funding the Green Movement since the 1970s?

That little bit of skull dougnary, I got to give it to the Chinese. I have got to say, well done Chinese communists. You are about to declare victory because not only have you successfully prevented us from building any kind of nuclear in the United States for decades. You are now going to prevent us from building what is going to be the backbone of the economy and the world in the very near future. And that is the kind of data centers that we need to run the kind of technical industry that we have here in the United States. They're about to run those out of town too. And what's interesting is that... tech companies, and I was looking at this last night online, and we're going to talk to Ross about this at length with more details, way more knowledge at one o'clock. But I was looking up this last night, and the technological leaps that are taking place in order to address the genuine real concerns that exist from the earliest data centers to now has been, I mean, it's just, it's unbelievable. They've done a great job of whack-a-mole trying to solve these problems before they become a huge problem by going to a closed-loop system. They're using like 90% less water, and now it's a normal business in terms of water usage. The secondary problem, you've got noise. How do you deal with that? They're mitigating that down to 50 decibels. That's the level of rainfall. So as these things are getting thrown up, the industry is responding so quickly. It's actually really amazing. And I had a small back and forth with someone on X the other day, where you can always follow me at Mandy Connell. And they made a reference to data centers and how much energy and water they take. And here's the good news. I think it's going to be good news. And you know I'm very bullish on nuclear. I am invested in nuclear companies. I believe that nuclear is going to be necessary in order to meet our energy needs in the near term and the long term. It is going to have to be nuclear. We just don't have a better way to do this. We really don't. So I'm very bullish on nuclear. I think that the need for data centers and their energy needs, which are significant, there's no way to mitigate that. There just isn't. I mean, they could cover the entire data center, and I think this is a great idea with solar panels to take some of the load off. But ultimately, I think it is going to see the necessity of nuclear. And it's going to become so undeniable that even the drumbeat. of the environmental movement funded by the Chinese communist is not going to be loud enough to drown it out. So I think we're going to see huge advances in moving to nuclear technology, whether it's the form of small modular reactors or nuclear facilities. I don't know what the timeline is, but if you want to buy and hold investment, I'm telling you, I feel like the guy in the graduate right now, you know what the future is? Plastics.

Only I'm like, you know what the future is? Nuclear. And notice, I'm saying it correctly. Nuclear. Nuclear. Not nuclear. Just as a point of order before someone says that and I have to run screaming from the air. Okay, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this, but just in case you were wondering, I... will not be at Victor Marx's election night party. Now, for a couple of reasons. Number one, I don't go to those. The only one I've ever been to in my entire life was the one for Heidi Ganal because she is a friend of mine. I don't generally like being around political stuff that much. So that's one reason. And then the second reason is, I know. And that is exactly why I'm not invited, Anthony. I'm not invited. Let me just read it. Can I? Here we go. I'm going to get in character. Breaking news. I can't do that today. The smoke is killing my voice right now. Once again, says Victor Marks, we're doing things differently. On primary election night, nearly every major media outlet requested access, interviews, or participation in our watch party. Many of those same outlets spent months pushing narratives, truth, chasing clickbait more truth, and treating our campaign with anything but fairness. We're declining requests from those who should have done better. Oh, God. Oh, yeah. The general election may be different. Oh, please, tell us. But primary night belongs to the people who help build this movement. For too long, Colorado politics has operated the same way. Candidates rely on legacy media to tell their story. We don't because they're just making crap up left and right and don't want to be questioned about it. But no, I'll continue. What many failed to anticipate is we built our own media machine. Yeah, a bunch of propaganda videos nonstop on social media. Every day we communicate directly with the people of Colorado. No, you talk at them, telling them all kinds of crap that you want them to believe with no one being able to ask questions or question you on past behavior without gatekeepers, without filters, and without asking permission. This campaign has never followed the old playbook, and we're not about to start now. Yeah, most campaigns didn't just pay their family members as consultants. But whatever, you do, you, Vic. A new error is here. Respect is earned. Access is earned. And we will continue speaking directly to the people who matter most of the sentence. I'm calling right now. Yep. Translation. Yep. We don't want too many outlets having B-roll of the concession speech. Oh, no. I'm going to be real. I'm going to be real. There's a good chance that Victor Marks wins the primary election. But in case he doesn't. I'm just, no, I want to make sure everybody knows. that I'm conceding that point, but I also want to be clear. I never said Victor Marks couldn't win the nomination. I said he shouldn't win the nomination. But there are so many people who have just latched on because they're good Christian people and good Christian people are told to give money and not ask questions about where it goes.

There are people who've probably given him thousands of dollars. You just found out that saving to him means giving out free teddy bears, but they don't care. They're like, yeah, I paid for teddy bears. Yeah. I mean, the cult of personality around this guy is stunning. Over under 24 hours until the first nuclear, nuclear bomb comes down in the form of a TV spot from the Dems after he wins the primary. 24 hours. Within 24 hours? Now, if I am the Democratic Party, do you want me to tell you my strategy? This is what I would do. I'm holding fire until September. I'm not releasing a thing. I am simply pretending like Victor Marx doesn't exist. I am ignoring him. I am talking directly to the people of Colorado. And then in September, I unleash the torrent of opposition research based on things about how his ministry made money, got money, and spent money over the years. Going back a decade or so, that would be where I would start. And then would come the commercials of him talking about casting off demons. That would be really great in our secular state of Colorado. I'd run those statewide. And then I would just play snippets of the debate, including our favorite snippet from the debate. You're mean. Yep. Yep. Devil's advocate, though, and not one that he could expel via, you know, exorcism. Between now in September, though, the seed could grow beyond... It won't matter. Insert. It won't matter. It really won't matter. Just wait. Just wait. And there's a part of me, honestly, and this is so bad, you guys, because I love Barb Kirkmeyer. I think she'd be an amazing governor. There's a part of me that wants him to get the nomination. Like really wants him to because then when all the House of Cards comes falling down and all of these people who got sucked in will stand around looking at each other saying, how did I get sucked in? I'm like, well, you didn't listen to the Mandy Connell show. I'm going to, I told you so, so bad. I have all these people that just relentlessly post on my Facebook page. The day after the general election is over when he loses by 30, 40 points, I'm going to go back and respond to every single one of those posts with that, with that number, every single one. Devil's Advocate times two. Yep. If he were not to win the primary though, would that not, let me go the other way. If he were to win the primary, would that not? given the fact that he would lose, give him a platform long enough to run for something else down the road. Whereas if he lost in the primary, you would think that kind of be like a... No, here's the problem. ...to any future endeavors. No, if he loses in the primary, here's what happens.

He's a victim. He looks at me and Michael Brown and Ryan Shuling and anybody else who didn't slavishly, you know, fall all over him. And he blames us and he points us out to play the victim. And then that whole wing of the Republican Party that really believes that the reason we lose in this state is because we don't nominate conservative enough people would then be able to cry, you know, foul. Oh, if we'd only nominated Victor Marx, this would have never happened. So you become the demons. Correct. about that. I don't care about that. What I care about is the sooner that wing realizes they are wrong, the sooner the Republican Party can come back together. So in order to build the Republican Party back into a functioning party that is designed to get solid candidates elected, again, we're going to have to burn it down. And the fastest way to burn it down is nominate one of theirs, give them what they want. And hear me now, listeners, I am not going to say a word of commentary about Victor Marks after the primary election. A word. Because I'm not going to be blamed for the... absolute ass kicking that is going to await him. Only from scorched earth can flowers grow. Thank you. And that's where I am right now. That is what's going on in my mind. And I wish that I didn't feel that way. I wish that it was just, you know, not that way. Mandy, if there's a runoff, Colorado law will require the mediators to have rabies shots. Well, maybe. And hey, also... To bring it to the public ear, if he wins the primary, we have also been told, at least in the past, maybe he'll come on this show. Oh, God, no, no, no, no, I don't want him on the show. I really don't. I don't want to talk to him. Because here's the thing, it would have mattered to me in the primary. It doesn't matter to me now. So I don't want him on the program. I will have whoever his Democratic opponents are, the libertarian candidate for governor. I'll have them all. And, you know, no, I just don't. Mandy, Mark's main platform is Sugar Snowdas with Snap. What? No, he's got a platform. I think ChatGPT did a great job with it. And I think that, you know, for an AI-created platform with every Republican platitude that you could possibly imagine. with absolutely no answers to how he thinks he's going to get any of it done with a Democratic legislature. If a candidate cannot tell me, and don't give me that, I'm going to reach across the aisle. Okay, what? How are you going to tell Democrats who passed most of this crap, who are still in the legislature, that you want them to undo everything they are so proud of? Riddle me that. Anyway, it's going to be a very interesting time. Very, very interesting time to be sure. Now, I have, we're going to get into the Democratic Socialist problem in the next segment. And I don't just mean for us, although Democratic Socialists are a huge problem because they are feeding into the greed and envy of young people who have been raised in an era when they are following people on Instagram who have everything they don't.

And to them, it looks like the world is unfair. And I'm like with my generation, where when you went to your parents or your mom and you're like, oh, that's not fair. And my mom would just go, so the world's not fair. And that was your TED talk. There you go. Figure it out. Instead of that, these kids are being told that if only government was big enough, they would just take all the nice stuff away from the rich people and give it to the poor people. And then the poor people would live like the rich people. But that is never how socialism works. Ever, ever, ever. And in New York City, three Democratic socialists just were nominated by Democrats. And these people genuinely hate America. I mean that. And I don't throw that around. You guys know, I don't call, I don't generally just say these people hate America. When we get back, I'm going to play a soundbite of the DSA co-chair. And this is why this is an even bigger problem for Democrats than it is Republicans. And a friend of mine said, this reminds me of the Tea Party. And I'm like, oh, there's a big difference. Big difference. Similarities, yes. But one big difference, and that is their agenda. This episode sponsored by She's Birdie. Every woman knows that feeling, and She's Birdie knows it too. The just in case feeling. Just in case I hear something. Just in case someone tries the door. Just in case I need to wake up fast. It's not fear, it's awareness. And Birdie Box from She's Birdie was made for exactly that. Birdie box is a portable travel door alarm designed by She's Birdie for hotels, dorms, Airbnbs, and anywhere you're staying away from home. It installs in seconds on the doorframe. And if the door is opened, it activates a loud siren and flashing strobe to help draw attention instantly. She's Birdie, because peace of mind should check in with you. Birdie Box by She's Birdie. Visit she's birdie.com. That's S-H-E-B-I-R-D-I-E.com. And order your Bertie box before your next day away from home. This episode sponsored by Jace Medical. It's 11 p.m. The pharmacy is closed, and you need meds now. That's exactly why Jace Medical helps you prepare before emergencies happen. With the Jace case from Jace Medical, you can get 10 emergency medications and treatment options for over 50 infections shipped to your home after an online physician evaluation. Whether you're traveling abroad, stuck during a storm, or dealing with a fast-moving infection, Jace Medical helps you have medication on hand when it matters most. Go to Jacemedical at jace.com. That's jase.e.com. Join the thousands who trust Jace Medical and get your Jace case now at JASE.com. Running for the House of Representatives in New York City have been passed through to be the nominee for the Democratic Party. Most of them are in extremely safe Democrat districts. That means we're going to get three more Democratic Socialists in Congress.

This is a huge problem, but not just a huge problem for Republicans. There's a real chance that Diana to get could lose to a young, attractive democratic socialist who is wrong on everything. I watched her interview, and I put it on the blog a couple of days ago. And... I watched her talk about homelessness. And then she got to the point where I was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. And Kyle kept asking her questions. And he kept saying, well, who's getting it right? And she essentially said, oh, it's not working because the wrong people are doing it. That is such, that is the biggest cliche. But when we had Deep Prasad on who I'm totally going to have on again, I really enjoyed my conversation with him. When we had him on, he basically was like, well, socialism never been done the right way. That is, that's the pat answer. But these people are going to win. Because they're running on a platform where everything is going to be free. We're going to tax the rich. And the rich are going to pay for everything. And we're going to have free housing. And we're going to have free health care. And we're going to have free child care, free school, free college. And we're going to have free, free, free, free, free, free. And the rich you're going to pay for it. That is a winning message. When you're talking about people who are struggling, they're not able to buy a home, they feel like they're never going to be able to put anything together financially. They're paying exorbitant rents. Of course, it's an appealing message. But it's a message that's about as deep as a bag of Doritos. So why do Democrats have a problem? May I have my audio please, Anthony? This is the New York DSA co-chair dropping the truth about how Democratic socialists really feel about the Democratic Party. Our candidates run as Democrats. We're on the Democratic Party ballot line. We contest the primaries. And when they're in the legislature, they're part of the Democratic Party caucus. But we don't agree with the way the Democratic Party establishment organizes. runs its party apparatus. And so we try to build independence by focusing on volunteer-led movement. We think that everyone should be able to be trained and to become someone who can participate in the political process. And we don't really think that Democratic Party campaigns in the establishment are run that way. And I think you really see that difference in the races like we're having tonight. And I think in terms of the agenda, There's a problem in the Democratic Party where they are funded by billionaire donors, and at the same time, they're trying to represent the working class. And in our opinion, you have to choose between the billionaire class and the working class. It's just impossible to satisfy all of them. That is what the Democrats have invited into their party.

By elevating the likes of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, they have invited this into their party. Now, a friend of mine this morning made the connection. They remind me of the tea party, gosh dang it. And I'm going to be frank, I was a part of the tea party and enthusiastic about it. Loved it. We had a massive tea party in Fort Myers. And I'm just going to say this. During a time when there was tea parties all over the country, this is 2009. It's right before I had my daughter in April of 2009. We had, I believe, the best tea party that ever was. Hear me out. Not only did we have a guy dressed in colonial dressed, ride through the streets of Fort Myers, Florida on horseback, yelling, the socialists are coming, the socialists are coming. It was a thing of beauty. We had a band. We had a classic airplane flyover. And then we did it right on the Kalusatchi River. We dunked giant tea bags into the Kalus Adjee River because we wanted to be environmentally sound. It was a glorious day, even though I was enormously pregnant. It was incredibly hot. So I'm not anti-T party, but I recognize what the Tea Party movement did for the Republican Party. And not for nothing. So many people that were swept into office on the Tea Party platform immediately just turned their back on the values that were being espoused by the Tea Party. And speaking of values, this is... The big difference between what's happening with the Democratic Socialists of America and what happened with the Tea Party. The Tea Party was about preserving the core values that the country was founded on. And I went to Tea Party meetings and I read the Federalist papers. We talked about the Constitution in depth. We talked about the Declaration of Independence in depth. We really wanted to understand the concepts. that the founders laid down, that we as a nation have failed to achieve for everyone. See, the problem isn't the foundation. The problem is that we have not somehow still managed to ensure that everyone has access to opportunity in the exact same way. I think now we're better off than we've ever been. And now, I think a lot of the disparities and discrepancies have to do with the fact. that white Americans have had an advantage when it comes to generational wealth transfer. And you may hear me and go, my parents left me $25,000 or they didn't leave me anything. And that's true for a lot of people. But a lot of wealth has passed out. It is what it is. I'm not mad about it. I'm not happy about it. I just, it is what it is. And I do think that as more people really grab the American dream and move into entrepreneurship and, you know, create generational family companies. And that is open to any race or ethnicity now. But that being said, what the Democratic Socialists are after. is an absolute destruction of everything that is in those founding ideals. They don't want to make sure that everybody has access to every bit of opportunity and freedom and all of that stuff. They want to tear it down and try and rebuild it in a model that has been disproven over and over and over and over again. And if we had not let our schools go to hell in a handbasket.

These idiot young people would have learned the consequences of socialism and communism. But they didn't. They don't know anything about the Soviet gulag. They don't know any of that stuff. They don't know about hospitals in Cuba with no medication because they only watched a Michael Moore documentary about it and they're like, it looks awesome. And they never bother to ask, why is it? that people have to escape socialist utopias like Cuba to come to the United States. Why is that? No one is escaping to go to Cuba. I mean, if they did, they'd be stupid. Mandy, your show will gross a million in subscriptions, but you'll get 36,000 working for communists. Exactly. Exactly. Mandy. sounds like Mike Bennett on Ross's show this morning. Anytime he wants to make something affordable, what he means is he wants to make it subsidized by taxpayers. Gamer Galdem, glad you sent me that. I have not listened to Ross's interview, but when Ross said I've got Bennett tomorrow, I said, please ask him. Give me specifics. Give me a plan to make things more affordable in Colorado. And it sounds like he just said, yeah, we're going to take money away from some and give it to others to make it more affordable. So stupid. Just so stupid. Mandy, I just got back from Castro, bought a bag of Doritos. It's pretty deep. I'm elbow deep. LMA. Stop it, Kevin. Stop it. Andy, income distribution is a problem for younger folks. Do you know what's funny about that? When you were in your 20s, and I know most of my listening audiences, my age, like mid-50s, did it ever occur to you that you should make as much money or have the same status as someone who had been in an industry for 30 years? And I don't care what industry it is. Like, say you just went to work in corporate accounting. Did you at any point ever think, you know, that guy's been here 20 years, I should make as much money as he does. But yet that seems to be standard. Among some young people. I truly don't understand where that came from. We'll finish up our political talk for this hour with this. Phil Weiser is beating the crap out of Michael Bennett right now. Beating the crap out of him. 45% supported Phil Weiser this from a public policy poll. Yeah, public policy polling. And they're a reliable polling organization. They've got Bennett at 45%. Excuse me. Wait a minute. Wiser. Try that again. Wiser at 45%. Bennett at 36%. That's a huge, huge spread. 19% still undecided and up for grabs. So that could be very interesting if Phil Weiser wins the Democratic nomination. And as I've said for months now, it's going to be really hard for any Republican to win. And I thought Phil Weiser did really well in the debate. I thought he did really well. A friend of mine he was at the debate was like, oh, he was really, really stiff. I'm like, but we didn't see that on TV. He just seemed really in command of the issues. So I thought he did a really good job for himself. And I do think that there's this sort of anti-standard politico feeling.

on both sides of the aisle. And Michael Bennett is going to have to deal with that. So we could have an even harder left Democrat as governor soon. Yeah, I'm excited about that. You can tell. Anyway, there are. a few things that just came out of the Supreme Court and I'm going to get to them later in the show today but one of them is going to have or should have a significant impact on Colorado and Denver's all these idiotic rules that say you can't come on you cannot bring your firearm at a city park you can't do that no you can't do that Well, Hawaii, which has long worked very, very diligently to keep guns away from citizens of the United States of America because they say it doesn't jive with their aloha spirit. Well, the Supreme Court absolutely slapped them down in a decision in Wolford v. Lopez. Hawaii had a rule that said if you have a concealed carry permit, which in Hawaii, although I don't know how much difficult it, how much more difficult it is than to get one here now, but Hawaii had a rule that said if you are a concealed carry permit holder, you had to receive affirmation from a private property owner that has public access. Say you're going into a mall, okay? You're going to walk into the mall as a concealed carry permit holder. You had to get express permission. from the mall in order to be able to walk into the mall with your firearm. It was just so dumb. So dumb. The Supreme Court agreed. So what does this mean for all of Colorado's idiotic bands? Oh, you can't go into a city park where all the freaking whacked out, drugged out homeless people live with a firearm. It's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. So I'm interested. I don't know. I'm trying to find somebody to come on and talk about this specific issue because it has to have a far-reaching impact. And by the way, the Supreme Court in this decision sounds a little salty that people are not paying attention to prior decisions about the Second Amendment. They're like, hello, we already said this. Hello. So that Supreme Court decision is one of three. Well, and there may be more. We've got a few more that are going to come out before the end of June, and some of them are significant. The birthright citizenship ruling is going to come out, and I'm guessing that that is going to come out probably on the last day of the Supreme Court session. So we'll see. And we'll get into this stuff a little bit later in the 2 o'clock hour, but that one, this one, I was like, oh, let's see what Colorado has to do now. We shall see when we get back. There's a data center being proposed near a Garden of the Gods, and it has inspired so much misinformation and just idiocy.

across the board that my friend Ross Smith did an entire website with factual information from a guy who's actually been involved in building data centers in the past. So we're going to talk to Ross Smith about this next, but we can all just calm down when it comes to data centers. The Mandy Connell show is sponsored by Bell and Pollock accident and injury lawyers. Now it's Mandy Connell. 8.50 a.m. 94.1. FM. Thank you. Welcome, welcome, welcome to the second hour of the show. I'm your host, Mandy Connell. That guy over there is Anthony Rodriguez. And together we'll take you right up until 3 p.m. When we turn the station over to K-O-A sports, speaking of sports, you are going to be able to hear the men's USA versus Turkey soccer match tonight. FIFA World Cup tonight. So we're going to get a smashing turkey. 7.30. Start 7.30 right here on K-O-A. So if you're the type to do such a thing, you could do that thing tonight. I will not. But anyway, so back in the 1800s, there was a movement. And it was a movement that started with weavers, people who used to make cloth and stuff like that. And they were very unhappy because machines were developed that could actually do their weaving faster than they could. And they were very upset thinking they were going to be replaced. And all of a sudden, they started freaking out and breaking into factories and smashing machines. And they were called the Luddites. And now today, the word Luddite just refers to someone who is sort of anti-advancement, anti-technology, anti-making the world better. Now, here's the kicker. Those people that were probably some of them put out of work from their weaving gig. I don't know what happened to them, but it's amazing how we always manage to adapt to the changes that come through innovation. And one of those things is... Data centers. Data centers, I'm going to use this. Ross Smith is my guess. Hello. Ross, let me just use, this is my bad analogy for what data centers actually do. They are the backbone that create the skeleton that all tech is going to run on. Sure, yeah. I mean, it's more about taking in large data, processing large data, and running large data when you can't do it on site. You know, that's the cloud. It exists in an offsite campus. That's data centers. They just manage and handle the large data process. So everything that we're doing on our phone, everything we pull up, every app, every, everything. That's all coming through a data center somewhere. Yeah, correct. Okay. What is your background, Ross? Other than working here with us at IHeart for some time, what is your background in data center specifically? Sure, yeah. Ironically enough, I fell into data centers when I was laid off from CBS Radio and San Antonio. Great, great cluster. Had a lot of great memories there. But my brother worked for HP, Hewapackard, and Data in Colorado Springs here off of Rock Room. And he said, hey, you've got a lot of technology and component level troubleshooting once you come try data centers. So.

Long story short, it just, that grew into a career where I was working for HP, Walmart labs, which they do all the big data processing for Walmart, Apple, Tesla, big names, yeah. So you kind of know what you're doing here. Yes. Okay. So right now there is a data center being proposed near Garden of the Gods. How near? What are we actually talking about? We're looking at, I don't know exact numbers. I should know the number on that, but as the crow flies, probably about two miles. Oh, so, okay. So not right next door. No, I've seen even post, my wife sent me a post. A girl was crying because it was putting right in the middle, being put right in the middle of Garden of the Guides. And the misinformation, this was that girl that lived in, you know, Virginia. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. So what is being proposed by this company, Radon? Raiden? Yeah, Raiden. Yeah. So currently the public information on it is a, there currently exists a building, which, if I'm correct, I think it was built in 2006 by Intel. was originally suspect for 100 megawatts. Yeah, 100 megawatts. So it's, there have been companies in and out there. I guess it never worked. So it's a big, big space. A huge, it was supposed to be an Intel chip manufacturing plant. So for some reason, whatever reason, Intel didn't work out there. So there have been companies in and out of there that have, you know, the state's got some offices in there. And there was a bit, which we'll touch on, but a Bitcoin mining facility, which was horrible. That was horribly ran, horribly managed. This company, Raiden, is looking at the project Taurus, which is going to be a 50 megawatt. So half the capacity of the original capacity that it was spec for. So the building is already built. It was already rated for this power. So the project that's being built is well within the specs and well within the regulations that the original building was built for. So when did this opposition start getting ginned up? Because I thought we're talking like a whole new. Facility. No. No new facility. Buildings already there. All we're going to be doing is dropping in a ton of servers to make a data center. Yeah, sure. And again, these are a well-designed modern enterprise data center is as well-specked, well-regulated. And again, you and I were talking about that there are bad actors in the industry who have made really bad names for themselves, but the companies like Raiden and the way they're specting this data center is not. It's not one of those actors. They're looking at a very well-structured build, well-regulated build, and it's gone through all the approval processes with the city. So, yeah, it's looking like a great facility. I mean, of course, time will tell, and I'm as objective as anybody else. And if they fail at their promises, they should be held accountable. Let's talk about some of those promises and mitigating some of the concerns, because Ross and I were talking off the air before the show. One of my frustrations is that when you hear this just happened at the Denver City Council meeting, so that all these activists show. up at the Denver City Council meeting. They want a moratorium and they're using data on water hog data centers on data centers with no sort of noise mitigation and they've glommed onto those numbers and they refuse to recognize that newer generation data centers are addressing a lot of these concerns. Yeah. Let's start with the water because that is obviously our main concern, especially this summer. We're in a drought, right? And so what does the water usage look like for this particular data center? So in a data center that spec like this, again, as they promise. And I will hold, anybody should hold them accountable if they failed this. But it's a closed loop system. So I won't get too much in the weeds and the technical specs of this. But effectively, you've got a closed loop system that works like your radiator in your car. It goes through the radiator, the fan cools it, it gets it back to the system. The hot fluid comes back in, gets cool.

often it uses that fluid to kind of circulate to the system. But there's also a second element where you've got a cold, a cold aisle, which is what cools the servers. That air is pulled in through the servers, spit back out because obviously it's going to be the heat transference is going to push the hot air out of the back. In the rear of the halls, there's or the... The little capacity there, or the container there, there's a hot air area. So then there's some infrastructure that uses that cold liquid to cool that air. And that just cycles in and out. So it's just like your air conditioner. The same thing. And the fluid never leaves the system. I know there's a lot of speculation. I can tell you you can, again, we all owe each other our own objective perspectives on this and go do your, go do the, you know, the research that you can on it. Those, these, these systems are. I would say easily 95% efficient. And the only leakage you get usually is a failure in a valve or maintenance. So it doesn't evaporate out, doesn't magically disappear. The fluid that's in there is glycol water mix. It stays in the system. So what kind of water? I mean, initially you're going to have to put some water in there, but what would be, because I'm guessing like even with your radiator, sometimes you have to top it off. Sure. So what are you actually looking at? for water usage over the first two years? So water usage, I mean, I'll just go a number out. I'm maybe off on this and correct me. You can send me an email on my website if I'm wrong about this, but it's hundreds of thousands of gallons. I mean, it's an initial fill. You put it in. In theory, stays in there. If it's a well-maintained system, it doesn't leave. So you're not using local water reservoirs or inventory. Now, let's talk about noise because that's the other thing that a lot of people, and I've seen... a couple of videos online where people are standing right next to a data center. And it does have quite a loud buzz. And as someone who is bothered by repetitive noises, that would make me absolutely insane. So how is that particular problem being mitigated? Sure. And I'll fall back to the good actor, bad actor. There's a, you know, data center, there's not just one data center. There's not just one type of data centers. You've got your hyperscale data centers, which are huge, millions of square feet. And then you've got, you know, data centers like this, which is a 200,000 square feet. And the way these buildings are built, again, this infrastructure is already there. That building was built to kind of mitigate. There's walls. There's sound walls that are between the generators, between the coolers that block that air. And the funny thing about this topic is there is a data center right next door. to project tourists that nobody knows. You can, I guarantee you, any person in Colorado Springs will drive by a data center and not even realize it, but right next door there's a Verizon data center. It's about 20, 20 megawatts, and that data center is, I actually took a video yesterday. I stood by it, just to take it, I took a quick video. It was 36 decibels.

Right next to it. What is the equivalent of that? So, yeah, like a lighter rainfall. Right. Yeah. So and this, and again, that, that also factors in cars driving by the ambient sound. Sure. You know, you can't get too close to these things. They're within, you know, a fence line. So, and this 36 decibels that I got was on the street. So. Yeah. Well, somebody just hit the Common Spirit Health text line and said, first of all, somebody said they should tear down all the data centers and plant almond trees and said, that's funny. That's very funny. That's like a great water usage joke. For those of you that don't know, that almonds take a ton of water. This texter said, maybe I'm not paying attention, but I've never heard anything about data centers until a few months ago. Is it really a big issue or is it manufactured drama by environmentalists in Washington Park liberals? I'm going to take it one step further and I stand by this. The Chinese communists have been funding any organization that works against progress, whether it's industrial progress or whether it is data center progress or whether it is any kind of progress. They've been doing this since the 1970s. They funded much of the environmental movement. They funded the anti-nuclear movement. And I believe they are funding the anti-data center movement because... Going back to the very beginning of this conversation, this is what's going to power the economy of the world. Sure. This is not optional. This is not going away. Transactional data is the future. It's not going away. Somebody just asked this, and I don't know, this might be outside your scope, but it says, and what resale of your house if there's a data center in your neighborhood? Another reason to put them in ugly industrial areas. This already exists in an ugly industrial area. Yeah, and again, to touch on that topic, like I just said, there are actually the Walmart Labs Data Center, which I helped build up from the ground up in Colorado Springs, and there's an SAP Data Center, which is another big data processing company. They're right in the middle of townhomes. You wouldn't even know they're there. They look like office buildings without windows. How many data centers already exist down there? There's a little over, there's between 8 and 12, depending on, you know, what, you know, they're everywhere. Yeah, and there's such a nuisance that no one knows they're there. zero complaints, zero documented complaints. I mean, they're not going to be quite as big as 50 megawatts, but they're there. This texter has a great suggestion. Data centers just need rebranding. Call it a server spa, and everybody's happy. There you go. It's all about branding. A texter just pointed in about the amount of water you're talking about, that's about one-fifth the amount of water that is in an Olympic swimming pool. The point is to all this is we always, there's been this whole narrative that you're you're pulling from the local water, you're pulling from the local electricity. These companies are, they're contracted to provide all of their own infrastructure if it's over 10 megawatts. So they have to build their own power infrastructure. They have to bring in their own water. So they're not pulling from anything else. So yes, it is a lot of water, but. Well, so where are they going to get this power? And this is honestly, Russ. This is why I'm invested in small modular reactor technology. I actually think this is going to push nuclear into the next level. There's going to be no other option. So how does this not pull from the grid? How do they not pull from the grid in Colorado Springs? Tell me how that works. So technically it does pull from the grid and the power is provided by the utility company. But the caveat there is that the company is contracted to build substations, transformers, whatever would compensate the load of the power production that needs to happen.

falls on the company to invest in that infrastructure. So do they put solar roofs on the top of these? I mean, how are they mitigating their power use? And I know renewables are not an option for data centers because it's intermittent. They cannot get enough power that way, but how do they mitigate? in the ways that they can. Yeah, and I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but no data center is the same. I mean, they run the gamut. But there, you know, there's a lot of companies like Google's doing a great job of moving towards neutral, so carbon neutral. And even the data center I worked at in Made North Carolina for Apple, it was their main I-Cloud data center at the time. We had a field, like, you just. As far as you can see of solar panels. So, you know, it just depends on how much... Don't you think that now, though, at this point in the conversation, now that people are paying attention and showing up at city council meetings, you're going to see more efforts by tech companies or whoever's building them to... provide, hey, here's what we're doing. Like the noise mitigation thing, when they're getting it down to rainfall, they're obviously aware of the objections and they're trying to knock them down. Seems to me that if you have a million square foot facility, slap solar on the roof and at least go, we'll take that when we can. Maximize. Well, and that's a big problem, too, is, you know, again, like I said, about the Bitcoin mining facility that was in that building before, people think, okay, that was a loud facility, but they were using illegal containers, illegal fans. So it's this whole idea that we're comparing, this was allowed facility, so this one has to be allowed facility. But like you said, it's up to the company to invest properly and invest in the proper equipment. What kind of... Like actual employment impact does the data center have after it's built? Like how many people are employed by these things? Because that is one of those questions that I hear multiple answers to. So what are we looking at in terms of who's working there? And, you know, are they good jobs? Yes, they're very good jobs, amazing jobs. And if I didn't have such a great career where I'm at right now, I'd be getting back into it. It's not big. It's, it's their guilt. That is one thing the data center industry is guilty of. Once it's the, the impact of the career impact is huge, you know, on a building perspective, because you have to have electricians. Right. Have people to run the cables to terminate the cables, put the equipment in. But once the infrastructure is laid. that facility is probably going to have 40, 40, 50 people staffed full time. But it still has so much value because of what's in it, you're getting the property tax benefit as well. Yeah. Are there any air quality issues? And this is something I've heard from actually the video that I was talking about earlier. One of the issues with that data center is the backup power was a diesel generator. Sure. So a diesel generator is just loud. Anybody's ever been to the fair knows that. Yeah. And, you know, I'll touch on the generator part first. Those generators are not running 24-7.

They're very regulated on how much they can run per year. And every data center I've worked at, we had a weekly, a very small window to test those generators. So the pollution impact of those large, they're huge generators, but the pollution impact of those is very minimal. So, but then you've got bad, again, bad actors. I won't name names, but there's a few data centers across the U.S., which had had documentaries filmed about them, and that's where all this bad information is coming from. But they, you know, they're using diesel turbines running 24-7, and those things are huge polluters. And again, they should be called out. And those data centers should not exist. Well, I mean, especially because they can, I mean, what we're seeing at the level of, and maybe I'm crazy in thinking this because I'm not in the industry and I'm not paying that close attention. But the advancements in these data centers, even over the last four years, has been extraordinary. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there, I mean, it's, I, from the moment I came, I came in about 2009, and I like to say that's kind of the modern age infancy of data centers and then to even now, and I've been out of data centers since I got back into radio. I helped bring up the Gigafactory in Austin in 2020, 2021 that range, but since I've been out, I mean, it's just leaps and bounds. It's always every day it's growing. And that's because tech knows that they can't do what they're doing without these data centers. to get them built and they're going to do what it takes to get them built. And I think that, you know, it's great if people have concerns and you want those concerns answered. But my goodness, educate yourself about what's actually being proposed or what actually is happening. What the property tax value of that property will be because because of the amount of equipment in it, it's significant. So. Just get all the facts and you can do so in this super outstanding website that Ross has put together, Colorado DC.com. Colorado DC for Data Center.com. He's got all kinds of information. He's got the actual proposal in Colorado Springs. And I hope you continue to do this. I realize you live in the springs, but I would love to see you do this as other data centers are being proposed because. They're being demonized, and I'm telling you guys, it's the Chinese communist. Don't be a useful idiot. Well, let me clear by what my objective here is to educate myself as well. I mean, I'm always, I told you, I'm objective with myself, and I like to educate myself. And I think everybody, even these protests are prodding questions that need to be prodded. I mean, they're not completely invalid, and I don't see them as crazy. They just, there's a narrative that's being driven by PBS, NPR, Vice, and there's these one-sided documentaries that are just hammering on these data centers that shouldn't exist and should. be shut down so well we shall see um there is a lot of good information i would love it i would absolutely love it if you just went and looked at it and then shared it with people in your life just so they can be educated as well. It is so illuminating and very, very helpful, Ross. First of all, good to see you again. And well done on all of this stuff. Because as we said, this is the conversation I'm having with my 17-year-old who hates AI. The youngest generation, they hate it. Which is interesting to see that pushback. It offends their sense of morality because AI is scraping other people's content.

And it means a lot to them. But I keep telling her, you could be mad about it. It's not going to change the fact it's coming. You can be mad about a data center, but they're going to get built. Yeah. And we're going to get to the point where data centers are going to have the power of eminent domain. That is my feeling. And I keep saying like the Ford Assembly line. If you, if you complain about it, you're going to be left behind. Exactly. Sad but true. All right, Ross Smith. I appreciate you. And that is Colorado, DC.com. I also put a link to it on the blog today. It's in the very first story at the very. top of the page. When we get back, you know, the federal government may be swooping in to save your gas stove and mine. I'll tell you all about it after this. This episode sponsored by She's Birdie. Every woman knows that feeling, and She's Birdie knows it too. The just-in-case feeling. Just in case I hear something. Just in case someone tries the door. Just in case I need to wake up fast. It's not fear, it's awareness. And Birdie Box from She's Birdie was made for exactly that. Birdie Box is a portable travel door alarm designed by She's Bertie for hotels, dorms, Airbnbs, and anywhere you're staying away from home. It installs in seconds on the doorframe. And if the door is opened, it activates a loud siren and flashing strobe to help draw attention instantly. She's Birdie, because peace of mind should check in with you. Birdie Box by She's Birdie. Visit she's birdie.com. That's S-H-E-B-I-R-D-I-E.com. And order your Bertie box before your next day away from home. This episode sponsored by Jace Medical. It's 11 p.m. The pharmacy is closed, and you need meds now. That's exactly why Jace Medical helps you prepare before emergencies happen. With the Jace case from Jace Medical, you can get 10 emergency medications and treatment options for over 50 infections shipped to your home after an online physician evaluation. Whether you're traveling abroad, stuck during a storm, or dealing with a fast-moving infection, Jace Medical helps you have medication on hand when it matters most. Go to Jacemedical at jace.com. That's JASE.com. Join the thousands who trust Jace Medical and get your Jace case now at JASE.com. Tonight, two things are going to happen in the FIFA World Cup. Actually, I don't know when this Egypt versus Iran game is taking place. I believe it's tomorrow. Yeah, it says Thursday. Oh, no, you're right. Oh, no, FIFA said it today. Okay, so listen to this bit of richness, this bit of irony. There is a game Saturday in Seattle as part of the FIFA World Cup. Well, Saturday in Seattle also happens to be their big annual pride celebration. And the World Cup organizers have declared Saturday's match, the pride match. Now, to be clear, to be clear, FIFA. has said there are no pride matches officially in FIFA. There will be a FIFA World Cup match in Seattle, and on the same day, events organized by external organizations will be taking place in the city, but that has nothing to do with the match itself. That is a statement from the FIFA president. But you know who's playing in this game? If you guessed Iran and Egypt, because I mentioned that earlier, you guessed right. Now, what is especially ironical about that?

Neither country tolerates homosexuality. So they, Egypt and Iran, called World Cup and said, yeah, World Cup, we don't want to see any pride flags. We don't want any of that gay stuff at our match. We want you to ban flags that are not recognized flags of a recognized nation. Now, for Iran, that kills two birds with one stone. Iranians have been showing up in Iran's games with the lion and the sun flag of the prior regime. They are not showing up with the Iranian flag. And that makes Iran mad. But secondarily, they wanted to ban pride flags. But FIFA, to its credit, said, no, people can bring pride flags if they want. Egypt and Iran were very mad. when they found out during the draw that this was going to be happening in Seattle because they say, quote, events clashed with its cultural and religious values. Both countries impose severe penalties on gay people. And FIFA shot back and was like, okay, FIFA World Cup is an inclusive event that welcomes people from all backgrounds. Fans of all sexual orientations and gender identities are welcome at matches and events. Now here is what could happen, Anthony, and this is why I did the story. It's not even on the blog. Not even on the blog. Knowing Seattle like I do, Seattle has a big fat contrarian streak. And it would not surprise me if the entire stadium was full of rainbow flags and gayness and drag queens and everything else. It would not surprise me one iota if this game was taken over by people shoving it down the throats of both Iran and Egypt. And I think that would be hilarious. That's the kind of passive aggressiveness I can get behind. I like it. I like it a lot. That's just, do you think, when they, how do they do the draw? Do you know? Do they just draw names out of a hat, whatever? Right, hang on. How does VAT do the draw? Let's see the actuality of this. Oh, gosh, it's a lot. There's like different pots and they're drawing. I don't know. Essentially they divide into four seeding pots predominantly based on FIFA World Ranking. Then they randomly draw one team from each pot into separate groups making sure they avoid geographical mismatches. So what I'm hearing is a lot of random, some based on the world ranking, but kind of random. Yeah. Anyway, so that's super fun. That's going to happen this weekend. I might actually watch that game at least the beginning of it just to see what happens. See what kind of freak flags are flying there? I'd like to know. Okay, can the federal laws or federal governments save us from the ridiculous and expensive and nonsensical and useless electrification plans that are keeping passed by local governments?

Colorado as well as Denver have mandated hyper stringent energy efficient requirements for existing buildings, pushing an electrification agenda that ramps up costs on industry, renters, and would-be homeowners alike. Now some of those people have pushback in a lawsuit. And now... The U.S. Justice Department has notified Denver's U.S. District Court that it might file a statement of interest in the stakeholders' lawsuit. Challenging Colorado and Denver's building energy performance standards, the department cites the Federal Energy Policy and Conservation Act. And federal supremacy is the argument. The lawsuit by the Colorado Apartment Association argues that state and local energy standards can't supersede federal law on such matters, and it appears the feds agree. Now, we'll see how this all shakes out, but one of the reasons our office buildings are selling for almost nothing downtown, not just because of the high vacancy rates, is because these new standards have forced retrofitting on old buildings to bring them up to these incredibly high energy standards. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm all in favor of a private owner of a private building instituting all of the new energy standards they want to institute to make the building more energy efficient, easier and more effective to run, you know, lower power bills, all that good stuff. If you want to do that, I love that for you. But when you require a 40-year-old building to go back and retrofit in such a way that you have to replace every window. in a high rise. You're talking 50 million bucks just to get it off the ground. So this is one of the reasons that people are buying these office buildings for nothing downtown. And now it would be lovely if this stuff got cracked back on. My big thing is this. We already know that the air handers, the electric air handlers that they're talking about, they don't work at high altitude. I mean, I've had conversations with George from Fixed 24-7. They just don't. The air is too thin for them to work properly. The lights go out. Just everything. It creates a real problem. And yet, that is what the government in Colorado is mandating us to have. That's ridiculous. But they don't care because it makes them look good and they can talk about how green they are with their friends as they cook their food on their gas stove. Toy Story 5 reviews, A-Rod, no spoilers. I never do spoilers. You know better. Textors, you know better. It is the best one since the first two. It is amazing messaging. It's a really, really well-told story. It's so good. I gave it a 9 out of 10. And the only reason is because, and it kind of comes with an asterisk, it's not a spoiler. Some of the characters we've loved over the years, they don't really get. kind of as much time in the movie, if that kind of makes sense. Is that because the people that voice them died? No, no. They're advancing the story with some of the other toys. Like, there's plenty still of the ones we love. But then my devil's advocate to myself is, and the toy stories is different stories. So I don't, I don't necessarily hate it. It's just different for me, but it's so good. It's as good as the...

It's as good as those first two. You told me, and I don't want to go too much into the messaging, but you said the messaging is amazing, but they don't beat you over the head with it, right? No, I'm saying it's, no, they do not beat you over the head with it, but it is really, really good messaging. Like, everyone's seeing the trailers, like the villain is an iPad. Right. Or whatever, like some sort of touchscreen thing, like a lily pad. It's awesome. It's so good. Worth seeing way better than four and three, the best one since the first two. All right. Go see it. There is your Toy Story 5 review. And I got an email from someone who said, Mandy. Cheap detective popped up on streaming, and I watched it, and it was delightful. Well, we'll go back to bad days. I'll have another big one for you tomorrow. I'm going to see Supergirl tonight, which has gotten atrocious reviews. I do not like the girl who stars as Supergirl. Millie Alcock is a good actress. I don't like her. She's most famously coming around from House of the Dragon, the first season. But the reviews, my... Lord. What is it about female-led superhero movies that they just can't get right? That apparently, so, well, here's the thing. The good part of the movie is her. Apparently, she does really well. But apparently the script is God-awful, and it is just that bad. And that's my point. Who's writing these scripts? Is it dudes, and they just can't wrap their heads around? What would make this good? Again, another one of James Gunn's new DC movie Superman, I thought was really good. But apparently this one just, it fell by the wayside in the script writing. And he said that he wouldn't move forward with a movie with that script. And apparently he broke his own rule. This one, like the early reviews, no spoilers. The early reviews look really bad. But I always love reading the really early bad reviews because it's either one and two things. Number one. They're wrong and they're just being critics and the movie's good or they're right. And at least I went in with lower expectations so I can enjoy it a little more. Exactly. I'll let you know tomorrow. My expectations are sometimes a good thing. Oh, for sure. A very good thing. I'll let you know tomorrow. All right, you guys, when we get to the next hour, three, very important Supreme Court decisions were handed down today. One has to do with turning away asylum seekers at the border. Now, one of the things that... It used to make me absolutely crazy is when Joe Biden would open his piehole and tell us that we didn't have open borders. Because we all knew that was a big, fat lie. But there was a couple things about that that I didn't realize until I read this decision this morning. The other one is about the temporary protected status that Syrian refugees and Haitian refugees have been enjoying for decades. And the Trump administration was like, nope, we are doing away with that. working on deportations for people that have enjoyed temporary protected status up until this point because we're, you know, going on decades now that people have temporary status. The Supreme Court has agreed with it. You guys, I'm just going to say this. Ketanji Brown Jackson often is at odds with the conservative members of the United States Supreme Court. But so are Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor.

But I have never seen dumber arguments made by anyone on the Supreme Court that Ketanji Brown Jackson makes. And I've read Supreme Court decisions. I used to love reading them when Antonin Scalia wrote them. So that's how long I've been reading Supreme Court decisions. The just simplistic thinking that she displays, she's an embarrassment. The Mandy Connell show is sponsored by Bell and Pollock Accident and Injury Lawyers. Now, it's Mandy Connell. Mandy Connell, ruin the day. On KLA, 8.50 a.m. 94.1 FM. Welcome to the third hour of the show. I'm your host for the next three, excuse me, one hour. What am I doing? I don't want to be here three more hours. Well, let's see how we show this. Exactly. Thank you, Donald. Arod here with me as well. And we'll take you right up until 3 p.m. and we're going to hand the station over to the boys of K-O.A. Sports. In the meantime, however, we've got three Supreme Court decisions. And they are three significant Supreme Court decisions. One is Mullen v. Doe. And these are all six to three verdicts, by the way, six conservative justices, three chick justices on the other side. And in this Mullen versus Doe lawsuit, it was about whether or not. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who obviously has been replaced by Markwayne Mullin, but at the time, she ended the temporary protected status of Haitian and Syrian asylum seekers. Now, these programs were put in place a very long time ago, I think in what, 2018? No, in 1990. The program gives the Department of Homeland Security the power to designate a country's citizens as eligible to remain in the U.S. and work if they cannot return safely to their own country because of a natural disaster, armed conflict or other extraordinary and temporary conditions there. Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano made both of the designations at the center of this case in 2010, shortly after a massive earthquake in Haiti. She designated Haiti under the TPS program, 2010.

Napolitano made a similar designation for Syria two years later, pointing to deteriorating conditions there after a brutal crackdown by Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad against anti-government dissenters. So initially, these temporary protected status was supposed to be for 18 months. But they were repeatedly extended until 2025 when Secretary Kristi Noem announced that the Trump administration ended both designations. So of course people sued, but here's the reality. The way that these are written, it not only does not allow for judicial review, it expressly forbids judicial review. Writing for the majority, Samuel Alito Samuel Alito wrote that the language of the TPS statute prohibiting judicial review is clear and its plain meaning is very broad. Now listen to the logic of the dissent, written by Justice Elena Kagan, joined by Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Ketanji Brown Jackson. She wrote, and this is hilarious, she wrote that at this stage of the litigation, the Haitian and Syrian TPS beneficiaries ask for only one thing that they may stay in the country while they continue to litigate their claims. When the majority says there is no room for judicial review, that argument holds no water. If the statute says there is no judicial review, and that's what it says. There's no judicial review. There is nothing to litigate. They don't get to, you know, anyway, that one, kind of a big one, doesn't really affect us that much here in Colorado. What interesting thing about that is that in the state of Florida, across the state of Florida, So many of the certified nursing assistants who work in nursing homes are Haitian. So many. So I wonder what's going to happen there. I mean, genuinely, I'm like, I don't know what's going to happen there. We also have one where the justices upheld the federal government's policy of turning back asylum seekers before they can reach the U.S.-Mexico border. Again, by the same six-three split, the justice has agreed with the Trump administration in Mullen v. Al-Atrolado. The policy was adopted a decade ago in response to a surge in the number of immigrants seeking asylum outside San Diego. The justices have ruled that it does not violate a federal law that permits non-citizens to apply for asylum when they arrive in the United States. And that word in. is again what Samuel Alito Samuel Alito called the question before the court. He said it was a straightforward one in ordinary speech, he writes. No one would say that a person arrives in a place, for example, a house, a city, or a country before the person enters that place. The context in which the phrase arrives in the United States is used in the immigration statutes at issue here supports an ordinary meaning.

So now, immigrants who want to claim asylum can be turned away by the United States government. So that's a big deal. But one of the things I learned from reading more of this decision, and I'm not going to read you the decision because it's long and some of it's kind of boring. Nobody writes decisions like, like Simeo Lillito did. He has were so good and so entertaining and kind of funny. But anyway, I digress. In this particular case, You have another group of people, 13 people who are seeking asylum, who never made it into the country, who decided to use our legal system in the hopes that they would be given some kind of, you know, some kind of out. But it is now gone badly. One of the things I learned from reading that decision earlier was that the Biden administration just pretty much dropped everything. They just got rid of all of it. They're like, no, we don't need to do that. And then Joe Biden was like, I don't know what I can do to close the border because he didn't even know the border was open. He didn't even know where the border was. One more that I want to get into before I have to take a quick break. The Supreme Court has struck down Hawaii's ridiculous gun law. that made it a crime for gun owners to bring their guns onto private property that is open to the public unless they had the property owner's specific consent. So stupid. Samuel Alito Samuel Alito writing the opinion for the court said that the law hobbles what the Second Amendment protects, the rights of Americans to carry arms for self-defense as they go about their daily lives. Ketanji Brown Jackson, she wrote the dissent.

It's, it's, it's a dissent. I'm no literary, I'm no legal scholar, but I know an idiotic argument when I see it. Now, what I want to know is, How does this impact all of the laws in Colorado that prevent where concealed carry permit holders can actually carry? Where do they stand now? It's this post, and I'm seeing it somewhere else, but it's from threads. Just heard of MAGA say, New York City just voted for three Democratic Socialists. No more Democratic Party. It's the Socialist Party now. I want to congratulate New Yorkers. My country, Denmark, is a social democracy, and we are ranked as the country with the highest quality of life. Zohran Mamdani is making New York City better. So I was like, okay, Denmark, let's look at your tax brackets. The absolute lowest income tax rate for individuals in Denmark is 0%. That goes right up until you make $9,630 a year. And then you start paying into the tax system. Above that threshold, standard personal income tax starts with a minimum marginal rate of roughly 41%. Do you really think these clowns in New York City, they're making $25 an hour, think they're going to be paying 41% of their income? I can't wait. Make New York like Denmark, please. Please. For specific groups, Denmark offers a flat 27% tax rate on cash salary, yielding a combined 32.84% when factoring in the required 8% labor market contribution. Yeah. By the way, that flat 8% tax is levied on your gross income before your other taxes are calculated. So it's really like an 8% tax decrease. The bottom state tax is a minimal 12.1%. The municipal tax, by the way, variable depending on your place of residence, with the national average sitting around 25%. Holy crap.

Wow. They tax capital games at 27%. So all you retired folks living on your retirement accounts, that's 27%. And that's only up to a specific threshold. After that, it's 42% over an amount exceeding that. So, oh, yeah. Yeah, make New York like Denmark. I can hardly wait. Cannot wait for that. Now, I have... A couple things in the next segment. One of them is this. This is going to surprise no one, especially because A-Rod has been playing extremely wholesome Beatles music on National Beatles Day. A new study is shown. Pop songs have grown more immoral and meaner over the past 60 years. Themes of harm, cheating, and moral rule breaking and popular song lyrics rose sharply over the past six decades, while themes of care and purity declined. Within the study's binary and imbalance gender data, lyrics by female artists tended to score higher on care, loyalty, and betrayal. While male and mixed gender artists tended to score higher on harm, degradation, and subversion. Men, you're making music awful. But now when you say, what are these people talking about when you're listening to one of your kids or grandkids music, it's not just you. It's foul and it's mean. And all the songs about nice stuff, they're just old-fashioned. Nobody sings about that anymore, Grandma. When we get back, what words or phrases make you want to punch somebody in the face? I kind of love this topic. We're going to do that next. Let me find the first comment. A lot of you already weighing in with the songs that are the sayings that make you absolutely crazy. I get it. I do. I was talking about Denmark and how high the taxes are. And this texter said, wouldn't having all these social services covered by taxes effectively lower your cost of living on the Denmark issue? What you're asking is, would you rather government decide how those things are executed in your life? Or would you rather figure it out on your own? I've got to tell you guys, I'd rather figure it out on my own. Denmark is a tiny country, so their health system works pretty well. Because they don't have 320 million people. But even in a larger country like the UK, the national health system is failing. You guys, this is the thing. When people talk about, oh, nationalized health care, it's free. It's free if you can get it. It's free if you can manage to see a doctor. It's free if you don't die before you wait for them to take your gallbladder out with an urgent referral that they never call you for. That's a real example from national health care. So it really does come down to you. Do you want to be responsible for yourself or do you want daddy government to take care of you? I prefer the latter. But other people prefer to have everything taken care of them and then they make a meager amount over that and they pay all their money and taxes to the government and hope that they do a good job.

I am not that person. So I saw this text message, not text message, a post on X. Top 10 phrases that repulsed me, says this random dude on X. But it got me to thinking, what are the phrases that repulse you? He's got some good ones in here. But I thought I would let you guys fill in the blanks. You know what, Arod, at the end of the day, The phrase at the end of the day makes my skin crawl. I love that one. I hate that one. I hate it. I'm going to use it. No. Yeah. No. Give me all of them. I'm going to use them all. The new normal. The new normal. The new normal. Well, it started back in the Obama economy when things were not going great. And he was like, look, this is as good as he's going to get. This is the new normal. It wasn't. But he said it was the new norm. Shorten it to the new norm. The new norm. No. There's a big one missing on this list. We'll see if any of our texters get it before I say it. Six of one, half dozen of the other makes me want to punch a puppy. Say that again? Six of one, half, when you're saying something is the same. You say six of one, half dozen of another. It's the same thing. This is my first time hearing this. Oh my gosh, that was one that I use it. I use it all the time. Mandy, would folks use the Lord's name in vain? I understand that one. How about this when gender affirming care? Dog whistle. Systemic oppression. Mandy, the phrase, I'm not going to lie, but drives me nuts. Why, what, you lie all the time that are making an exception for this? No offense, but. Yeah, ultimately you do mean offense. That's when you say no offense, but you're, it's, yeah. Mandy, the term partner to describe someone's spouse, girlfriend, boyfriend, fiance, or even to go there. One's lover or mistress drives me nuts. It sucks all the humanity out of the relationship and it's straight from the ivory towers. I, too, despise that. When you're talking about a romantic partner, shouldn't you have some kind of romantic feeling when you talk about them? This is my partner. I don't know if you're in a law firm. I don't know if you're, you know, gay. I don't know. Yeah, there's immediately follow-up questions. I just, but I never asked them because I don't want to be friends with the person who says that. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't. Yeah, you do. I don't. Yeah, you do. I am shaking my head emphatically no. I'm calling you a lot. I don't. Yeah, you do. I don't. Always curious. Yeah. As am I every time. No. No, no. Still a big one. Mine's a work one. Oh, they're all work ones. I know, but there's a big work one. That is not on this list. I love it. What is it? I'm not going to say it yet. See if any of the listeners get it. It's a big one. This texture, we are pregnant. Yes, that one's kind of. I roll my eyes at that one. I'm like, oh, oh, you are, sir. You are. Which months are you carrying the baby? Which months are you growing a human inside you? This is where the jerk guy, not me, goes, I did my part. Exactly right. Mandy circle back drives me F and nuts. There's one of the big ones. That's like my one A and my one. You know what my worst one is? Let's unpack this. Okay. If you're talking about anything but a suitcase, do not say the word unpack. Okay, I'll say mine now because it's right in line with those two. Okay. Put a pin in it. You're never going to get back to it. Mandy, at the end of the day, it's night.

I like that. Ross says it is what it is. Other Ross, man, by the way. Mandy, it is what it is drives a lot of people nice. I like that one. But you know what? Here's the thing about it is what it is. That puts a pin in the conversation because there's no response to that statement. Exactly. It is what it is. That's kind of like you going, we're done talking about this, so I'm going to say this random line and we're going to end this conversation because it is what it is. Mandy, sometimes at the end of the day it is what it is. Oh, God. But we'll put a pin out for now. Oh, no, we have a new one. We have a new entry. I've never heard this. Mandy, can't stand. We need to socialize the issue. No, we need to talk about it. Mandy, I know when people say, no problem. It damn well better not be a problem. I say no problem a lot. Somebody says, thanks. And I'm like, hey, no problem. A big deal. How about with all due respect? Oh, no, with all due respect is, that is, when you say with all due respect, You are about to unfurl some sort of insult at the person that you are directing that statement. With all due respect, you are an idiot. And here's the reality of that statement. Perhaps no respect is actually due. Do you see? You're just putting them on notice. That is just the opening of the insult door. And then you're going to walk right through it. Where are all my parents with six, seven? Ugh.

This textor says it's six in one hand and half dozen of another. And yes, I hate it. Then why did you correct me? Six of one, half dozen of another. It's fine. What about just saying? I don't mind that. Mandy, my brother's favor is this, that, and the other. This, that, and the other. Here's the phrase I despise. I appreciate you. I love telling people that I appreciate them. And I will not stop telling people, but I only do it when I actually appreciate someone. I'm not just running around telling the guy who handed me my food at the restaurant. I appreciate you. I don't do that. But I think I've told Arod, I appreciate you. Because I do. Is anyone say YOLO anymore? I think we've given that up. Oh. We have given that up for Circleback, dime a dozen, and that's what she said. That's what she said we'll never get old. Six, seven. At the beginning of the day offers this texter. How would you use at the beginning of the day? At the beginning of the day, we were hopeful that we would all move forward together, but at the end of the day, we found out that was not true. Thank you in advance drives me nuts. Another one I use in my emails. What I'm asking for a favor? All of time. I always say thanks in advance. If I need something, thanks in advance for your help. I don't know if it actually spurs someone to help me, but I feel like it does. I feel like if I'm super polite, they will be more likely to help me with whatever thing I'm asking for. Mandy, there's going to be a paradigm shift. Kill me, says this texter. Apparently, you don't want your paradigms to shift. I hate it when people move my paradigms and my cheese. Mandy, constantly saying, like, that has become such a part of our vocabulary. Like? I do it more than I would like. That's actually a proper use of the word like. So, yeah. One of my least favorite says this texture is, I feel you. Again, I use that as well. Dang it. I get you. Game changer. Oh, that's a good one. Live in the dream while at work. Everybody, how you doing? I'm living the dream. Synergy. Ooh, synergy. That's kind of falling by the wayside, I think. Mandy, I hate, bless your heart. It's a curse. It is not always a curse. Sometimes it is a genuine, oh, you sweet thing. I can't believe you're going through this. Bless your heart. And then sometimes it's, oh, bless your heart, which is totally different. So maybe you hate one and not the other. Mandy, I hate no worries. You didn't hang out enough beach bars if you hate the word, no worries. Relax. Can we just say this if anyone ever looks at you and says, hey, relax. The last thing you are going to do is relax. It's going to have the opposite effect. It's like someone looked at you and instead of saying relax, it's what they said was, hey, why don't you see if you can get more angry? That's what people hear when you say relax. Don't ever say that. Mandy, I love that for you. It just sounds so mean. It is petty, isn't it? That is, that is, that is one of those times where people want to say, I'm thrilled that you love whatever it is we're talking about, but it's not really for me. So I love that for you, not me, you. Chad, do you have annoying cliches that you hate? Take a listen.

Wait, what? Take a listen? Use that in a sentence. Oh, it's like TV on TV reports where they're going to play some audio. Oh, take a listen to this. Take a listen. Yeah. Listen. You don't need to take one. Just listen. I see it. Yes. I see it. Mandy, take a chill pill. Let's put that right in the category with relax. If you're telling someone to calm down, telling them to relax, take a chill pill, any variety of that is not going to be effective. at all. Mandy, I hate it when people say, I feel seen or heard. But sometimes you do feel seen or heard. Thank you in advance is too, assuming, says this texter. Genuine thank you happens after somebody does something for you. Or you use thank you in advance to grease the wheels to make sure you get what you're asking for. Mandy, all the young kids say perfect to everything. I am guilty of that as well. But only when things are perfect. Perfect. Exactly. You've gotten it now. I feel you. You need to calm down another that we're going to put in the chill and relax category. Mandy, don't mean to interrupt as they're interrupting. And all the, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, on NPR. There is a lot. Somebody should go through one day of NPR programming and just pull out all the, mm-hmm, yeah, mm-hmm. That'd be a long file. It would be extremely long. You know, Chad Bauer, you worked with Dan Mandus. No. Oh, you didn't. He was the program director of K.O. actually hired me to come here. He's now a talk show host in Tennessee. He was also a producer for Dr. Laura Schlesinger for many, many years. And Dr. Laura used to eat yogurt. During the show, and Dan had compiled a file of nothing but yogurt noises. Wait, let me see if I have enough saliva. It was like 20 minutes of nothing but yogurt noises. And I was like, Dan, he goes, oh, I hated it so much. I hated it. Today years old and addicting. I was today years old when I had crack cocaine. It's so addicting. But that actually is addicting. I think you're supposed to use the it's so addicting when you're like, oh my God, I had a crumble cookie and they are so addicting. Isn't it addictive? Shut up, Chad Bauer. Mr. Changing up the vocab over here. Mandy, one word, bro. Bruh. I'm done with bra. It's evolved to bruh. Brough. Brough. Low hanging fruit is this textor's least one. Sick and tired of hearing, that's a great question. As a person who does interviews, I never tire of hearing. That's a great question. You can say that to me all day long. Even though it's just a reason for them. Shut up, Chad. Three extra seconds to think of an answer. Shut up, Chad. God, you're such a wet blanket today, Chad Bauer. Gaw! Mandy, I hate it when somebody calls me and when I answer with hello, they say, what's up? I always reply with, you called me. Somebody calls you and says, what's up? I mean, that's a weird one.

There's a very weird one. Mandy, I hate, I hate it was a blessing when someone passes away. It never helps. It would be a blessing if they were healed. But I think they're talking about the person who actually died that being relieved of their suffering might have been a blessing at that point. Maybe they're not talking about the people left behind. Mandy, that's the bomb, usually from teens. I can't stand that. Is that back? No. No, that's not back? I haven't heard that in a long time. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'll still bust out with a bomb diggies, yo. Just for fun. You still don't call things gnarly, do you? I do. I've been working for four years to bring gnarly back unsuccessfully. I can't get anybody on board with that, Chad. Or gag me with a spoon. Gag me with a spoon. And we can leave that in the past. Because it was dumb when we said it back then. It's dumb now. But gnarly is a great word. It means so many different things. It's such a useful word. Brough, that's gnarly. Stop it. That's gnarly, bro. Stop. Whoa. You know, at the end of the day, Mandy, gnarly's cool. This texter said, I hate it when someone says, I'm speaking my truth. Amen, amen, a thousand times amen. Yeah, but that text in itself was that person speaking their truth. But you don't have to announce it. Why don't you just say? Here's what I think. How about that? Textor, we heard you. You have spoken your truth. Can't stand thanks, says this uptight text. Thanks. Please, please use thank you. I mean, this isn't new. We didn't just decide to drop the U and add an S and call it a day. Thanks has been around for a while. Thank you and work emails. Thanks with anything else. I thanks all the time. Work emails? Thanks so much. Yeah. Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Yes, thank you for your attention to this matter. Mandy, that's a great question. Is the nice way to say there are no stupid questions until there actually are correct? Who says boo-ya? Well, I'm bringing that back now. Ooh, the bomb.com. As cool as the other side of the pillow. There you go, Stuart Scott. The bomb has been replaced by an even more annoying one, says this texture. That's fire. Fire. That's fire. Riz? You like that? I sometimes I use these around my 17 year old daughter just to see she's appalled right if she can roll her eyes completely back in her head like Linda in the exorcist you know I'm just it's sometimes I do it Mandy when someone asks a question do you want this or no do what this or no that seems like they're trying to box you in what if you want maybe how about that Mandy, what about that's so dope? I hate it. You are dope if you say that. Yeah. The bumper sticker, be patient, new driver. I'm not saying that's on my car, but it could be on my car right now. Anyway. And now it's time for the most exciting segment on the radio of its guide. In the world.

Brought of the day. All right, here we go. We've got to do our dad joke of the day, please. How do you know if you have a slow dog? A slow dog. Yeah. Hmm. It chases parked cars. Oh, wow. Okay. There you go. There you go. The Jaguar. Sorry, word of the day. It's okay. It's an adjective. Adjective. Jondist. Jondis means you have the condition that makes you yellow because your liver bile backs up. You're thinking of John Dis, but to be John Diss. Oh, to have a jaded view, to have a cynical outlook on something. Showing or influenced by feelings of distrust, distaste, or hostility. Ha-ha. I'm giving myself credit for that one. That's correct. The Jaguar is one of two large cat species found in the Western Hemisphere. What is the other? I'm going to say the Puma, the Cougar. Sure. Which one? I don't know. Well, they're the same. Pumas, Cougars, Mountain Lions. The Puma, which is roughly the same size as a Jaguar. Pumas are commonly called Mountain Lions, Cougars, and Panthers. There you go. All right. Jeopardy category. Well, first, Chad has a chance to take the lead. Uh-oh. Excuse me, no, Ty. Tie Ryan Edwards with eight wins. Okay. So we'll see if you can be this category. You're on a roll. Okay. A newspaper covering Congress since 1955. Mandy? What is honor roll? Chad. Wrong. Chad. What is roll call? Yeah. The one to minus one. Wow. Nicholas McKay invented this four-letter roller using a toilet paper roll and tape. Chad. What is lint? What? The literal. Yeah. Okay. We'll get that too. Oh my gosh. I just did this backwards. Hang on. Now you got two. Okay, there we go. Roll tide is trademark. What is Alabama? The Alabama Crimson Tide. University of Alabama Crimson Tide. Correct. Photographers and videographers set this speed to avoid the distorting effect called rolling this. Chad. Chad. What is shutter speed? Yeah. Oh, Chad's killing me today. And this appetizer got its name as it is traditionally served during a specific time of the year. Jeff. What is the spring roll? That is correct. Oh, Chad, that was dominating. Can I bank some of those for future ones? I can't even, I'm just going to sit over here and be dazzled. I just got my buck kicked. With win percentage, Chad is now in first. Chad, well done. Still below 500. Eight and nine. That was a commanding performance. Thank you. A lot. Well done. All right. Thanks, bro. We're going to make room. Welcome, bro. We are going to make room for K-O-A sports coming up next tomorrow. It's a free-for-all Friday, first of all. Ask me anything. So I hope that's going to be a good one for you. Plus, I don't know what else. I could pretend I know, but, you know, half the time I just sit here and just make stuff up. I have no idea what I'm doing. It's fine. We all get through it together. It's all going to be good. Anyway, we'll be back. Keep it on K-O-A.