Rahm Emanuel 5-5-26

This is New Hampshire today. I am Chris Ryan. I appreciate you joining us for the show this hour of the program presented by New England College and NEC.edu. Thanks so much for being with us here this morning. I'm excited to have with us right now on the HRC, your neighbor credit union guests on an individual who we're going to be seeing a little bit more of the Granite State. In a couple of weeks, Rahm Emanuel, former United States ambassador to Japan for mayor of Chicago and chief of staff to President Barack Obama. He joins us right now on the HRC, your neighbor credit union guest sign. Good morning, Rahm. Good morning. How are you? I am well. Appreciate you joining us for the show. Before we get to your trip back to the Granite State, coming up on June the 5th, I want to get your upshot as to where things sit right now in regard to the U.S. military operation, ceasefire, Project Freedom, Operation Epic Fury, this kind of... moving targets in which we remain engaged with Iran to some extent and the street of Hormuz remains closed. Oil prices, gas prices rising as a result of that. Where do things sit and how should President Trump make this reach a conclusion in your view? Look, I mean, you can't unring a bell that should never have been wrong. We went in, quote, unquote, to talk about, and deal, not talking about deal with Iranian possession of uranium and the capacity for nuclear weapons. And they discover they have a nuclear option. It's called the Strait of Hermuz. And if you just look at the newspaper, we're not talking about the uranium. We're not talking about the nuclear. We're talking about opening up the Strait of Ramuz. And it showed that Iran now has. significant leverage in the United States has not been able to return that waterway to an international waterway. So that's where we are. One of the consequences of doing something when you don't think about the kind of after effects capability is you get caught with your pants down. And that's where we are in the situation. Short term, I've been a long supporter. We should have said no boats in or all boats in and out. It should be universal. Iran should not have been the one to impose that. Medium term, the International Maritime Association associated with the UN should be putting a toll, and that pays for all the countries that receive damage, not just Iran, and it's not an Iranian toll. And then third, use the Abraham Accords that we are a party to and have it built long term. ways to build pipelines, finance those pipelines that circumvent the Strait Harmoos, so it can never again be used as a chokehold on the international economy. But that's how you should be thinking about it. And probably the other piece of this is remember beforehand, Iran in the last 12 years has had five separate major civil

disruptions and in each one of those disruptions five over 12 years every two and a half years there were days of massive civil disobedience and strikes this left every year every one of them rather Iran has had to kill more and more Iranian citizens in this last one For the first time, the youth plus the merchant class, the middle class, the most significant political power in Iran, joint forces. You know, the number one rule in politics, which is what foreign policy is. When your opponents in a night fight with themselves, don't get in the way. And that's exactly what we did. They were at each other's throats in Iran. This was a really significant. major blunder by the president. And now, obviously, they can look at the United States and see, you know, potential for failed promises if we do not facilitate the regime change. And if the regime comes out of this, potentially stronger or more fractured than they were before, but still brutal in regard to the people in Iran. When it comes to a diplomatic solution in regard to the Strait of Hormuz that you proposed, though, why would Iran go along with that? Why would they go along with that scenario as opposed to, you know, President Trump and threats and we're going to obliterate? We're potentially going to use a military option. Why would they go along with the diplomatic solution? Yeah, well, one is they are trying to seek a diplomatic, but two, but they're trying to change the terms. Now, I don't kind of, everybody talks about, you know, hardliners, moderates. I don't consider it that way. Do you have a group of Iranian leaders who are more attentive? to the destruction and the dire straits of the economy. And the fact that is they're more attentive to the fact that the civilians and the Iranian people are really angry at their economic position. And they want to address that. Then you have... A military wing IRGC that is embedded itself and it owns industry, owns the economy. They think nothing about shooting Iranian citizens. They don't think anything about it. It doesn't bother them. So you can call them hardliner or moderates. It's just two different pressure points. And the IRGC does not want to give up. anything that has to do with their power and their potential to project power. The other elements of the area, you want to get on with building the economy and reestablishing some element of an economic and vital Iran. We want to...

appeal to that side and what we're talking about drives a wedge between those two different elements in the Iranian leadership. That is. Rahm Emanuel, joining us on the HRC, your neighbor credit union gas line for mayor of Chicago, former. U.S. ambassador to Japan and, of course, former chief of staff to President Obama in the White House. On June 5th, you're going to be kicking off a bicycle tour through New Hampshire, 110 miles. As a cyclist myself, I absolutely love the concept of this, and I'll be an ability for you to introduce yourself to folks across the state. So obviously, you're looking to introduce yourself to people here and are considering a presidential run, correct? Yeah, I mean, yes, that's the short answer. But more importantly, I want to, I want to meet folks. And I've got a microphone around, I'm actually in 984 miles in the annual canal from Pittsburgh to D.C. The coast of Oregon, when I was in Basin in Japan, I did four different trips across Japan. I think it's the best way to see meet, learn. I just love it. So my combination, I love them biking. New Hampshire has an unbelievable, beautiful landscape. And I also think I'll get the parts that other folks won't get to and see the other things. And every night we're going to do a community meeting, but I'll be staying at bed and practices, different dinners. And I think it's the greatest way to stay. A state, a community. I loved what I did. I used to joke when I did the bike around Lake Michigan, I had every 94 miles, 13 days. I used to joke that the, I could discover that the worst of cell phone services, the nicer people are. And there was a relationship. Bad cell phone. People were really great. You must be in an awesome place right now because the cell phone's breaking up a little bit. And the other thing is, I mean, I met a woman who won seven gold medals for best pies ever in her little diner and stuff. Things that you don't see driving by, et cetera. And people will stop, honk. Hopefully they won't drive me off the road. And I'll enjoy myself and I'll see a part of New Hampshire and meet a part of New Hampshire that I don't think it's seen heard or respected. And that I'm looking forward to. I want to talk to you a little bit about what's going on up in Maine before we let you go this morning where Graham Platner is going to be the Democratic nominee there. And he has a history of statements in regard to rape, a Nazi tattoo, which he says he didn't know was a Nazi tattoo. various other statements that he has made in the past, which obviously don't align with Democratic Party values as expressed, and don't really align with a lot of the societal values. And of course, things have changed and shifted, and I think we've lowered the bar pretty significantly in regard to...

candidate quality. I'm interested in your thoughts as to whether the Democratic Party like the Bernie Sanders of the world should be throwing their arms around Graham Platner just because it presents an option to win a U.S. Senate seat. Yeah. So look, I want to pivot. It's not that an SS signal tattoo on your chest or comments about rape or misogynist comments. It's not that they're not. consistent and they aren't consistent with Democratic Party values. They're not consistent with decency. Right. More than that. Okay. And to say that you don't know it, look, the simple answer to that is if you don't, you should and B. Take a visit to the Holocaust Museum. You'll learn a lot about it and you'll learn a lot why it offends a lot of people and gives them a lot of pause. So there's a way to address that. And there's a way, you know, somebody who, you know, when I helped pass the Violence Against Women Act, when I was mayor, I created the first new domestic violence shelter in the city for women, mothers with their children in over a decade. Hadn't been a new bed added. So if you say these things, et cetera, it's your obligation, my view, as somebody who's constantly learning, constantly reading, etc. Take your time and be exposed to why people are offended by that. And I think, look, he clearly now is the nominee, but he has, and he'll, as somebody that's in my, just a distant learning observing, has some, has changed and grown. This could be a growth potential for him, a moment where he says, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to appreciate what I said or what I've done. If he doesn't, that's something else. But watching him tells me he probably will do that. And he'll have to come to the understanding of why I never kind of. You know, I like to say this about the vice president. Right's president once called the president, like Hitler like NeoNazi. I never went soft on Hitler. I think he was really bad, okay? If you don't know why those assesses insignia are not only repulsive but scary to people, expose yourself to what that is. Right. And you'll learn about it. And now, look, I think, you know, I think I would say one thing. A lot of people want to put the fight about the party. on this spectrum or internal debate between the progressive left and the moderate centers. I actually think that's not where this is. It's about establishment versus anti-establishment. 100%. And if you look at the first 25 years of this century, the Iraq war where the establishment messes up. Thousands of men and women whose lives built on a lie. They never, the establishment, never ever paid a price. Never was accountable. Four years later, financial meltdown. Yep. People, seven million people lose their homes. And the bankers don't even think twice asking for bonuses. Never pay a price of accountability. Four years later, Xi Jinping comes to power. And China.

is rocking and rolling. And we let Battle Creek, Michigan, fight Beijing, China all by themselves. And Battle Creek is losing. And the establishment in America doesn't pay a price. And that's also true what happens in COVID. So when you look at it, a lot of people say, oh, it's the progressive versus central city ideological. The real prism in American politics today is the establishment versus the anti-establishment. Yeah. And he represents that. And that's what his insurgency against a sitting incumbent governor is quite popular really tells you about where our politics is. 100%. I remember back to, again, very flawed candidate, but John Edwards talked about two Americas back in the 0708 cycle and prior to that 0304. And expanding upon that now, you know, 20 plus years later. with the first campaign. That's still where we're at. The Americans feel like there's a set of rules for those at the top and the set of rules for those at the bottom. We have to hit the break here. We have to get the break. Let me say work. But we'll talk again soon. We're against a hard break. Rahm, appreciate your time and we'll talk soon. All right. All right. See you, Chris. Rahm Emanuel, you'll join us on the HRC, your neighbor credit union guest on. I am Chris Ryan. This is New Hampshire today. There's a busy spring pattern developing across the central U.S. Across eastern Colorado into western Kansas and Nebraska expect scattered showers and thunderstorms with gusty winds, small hail, and heavy brief rain. Highs will range in the 60s and the higher terrain to the 70s on the plains. Across the central and southern plains, including Oklahoma and Texas, storms become more widespread with a few strong to severe thunderstorms possible as high as reach the mid-80s. In the Midwest, including Kansas, Missouri and Iowa, expect scattered showers with highs hitting the upper 70s. to the low 80s. The deep south stays warm and humid as highs reach the mid-80s with periodic thunderstorms. Along the east coast, warm and spring-like as temperatures hit the 70s to near 80 in the northeast, into the low 80s for the mid-Atlantic and the mid-80s. The desert southwest stays hot as temperatures reach the mid-90s. California sees a mix of sun and clouds with highs mainly in the 60s to the mid-70s. And the Pacific Northwest can expect a few showers as temperatures reach the mid-60s. That's your national forecast. I'm Tammy Trujillo. An education built around your future means one thing. It moves you forward. At New England College, every graduate program is designed for working.