Self Preservation or Retribution?

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So, in other words, instead of saying, you know, all this incitement and all this hatred that we keep peddling, it caught a man killed? No. Maybe we should slow down, stop, recalibrate, pull back, restrain ourselves. No. They just keep on lying. They just keep pouring gasoline on the fire. 617-266-68-68 agree disagree Brenda in Beverly thanks for holding Brenda and welcome Good morning, Jeff, and thank you for taking all of my calls. And I've got a couple of points. Thank you. I have a couple of points, and I'm just going to add one little thing. I don't want to speak too much on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or I call her the chick with a too tight hijib. Maybe she should talk to Erika Kirk. I would like her to have a one-on-one with Erika Kirk, which... exactly is what she said to Kaitlan Collins, but I'm going to let that go. What I wanted to share with the audience and with you is that this has been an exhausting, like, 12 days for all of us with regards to Charlie Kirk. And I'm trying to look at this through the lens that this is a great opportunity, despite the fact that you're always going to have people in the world that have cold hearts like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. and Ilhan Omar, and we are called to pray for these people. It's very difficult. I have my fist up to God many times. I go, bless your enemies, pray for your enemies, all this. It is not an easy walk to be a Christian, and he never said that it was going to be easy. He said it's about eternity. It's not about being easy. But I see Charlie Kirk's death. as an opportunity for those of us that are self-professed Christians. You know, we're unashamed Christians. We tell people that we're Christians that this is our opportunity to share God's good news. And we saw that yesterday for five hours, the word of God going all over the world. So God takes something that was meant for harm. That's actually a quote from Genesis. I think it's... Brenda, can you just hang on because I'm up against a hard break. Brenda in Beverly, thanks for holding Brenda and welcome. Okay, I just wanted to finish what I was saying before you went to commercial break. I was actually in the middle of... sharing a biblical verse that I believe that applies. It's significant to the death of Charlie Kirk. It's in Genesis 50-20 where Joseph says to his brothers that seriously harmed him. You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives. Now, we had to lose a great life.

in order to save many lives. And as we could see what happened yesterday in that phenomenal tribute and what's going on worldwide as a result of his death, there's a lot of good that is happening. Yes, like I said before, we're always going to have people that are stone, cold, hearted. They suffer from willful blindness. You understand that, Jeff. And some of these people you just unfortunately can't reach, you know, and we're supposed to pray for them. I do want to commend Becky from Oregon. I also wanted to quote that scripture, which is significant for all of us. Forgiveness is a really tough thing. I mean, it is a huge battle for all of us. And on one end of the continuum, you might have some low-level offenses that you can blow off, like, you know, a family member. Now she's saying that again. Then you swing it, and then it's, you know, to the horrific things that people have to contend with, i.e. like Erika Kirk with the murder of her husband and, you know, the laundry list of horrible things that go on in our world. But we all have to do a cleanse of our heart because we do not want to become like those that are offending us. And like your texter, that brilliant text, we don't want that poison to fill us up. We don't want to do that because then we become them. And I think it's... This beauty, they call it beauty for ashes, and I think that this is what we perhaps are experiencing. Unfortunately, we had to lose a great person in order to have this experience. I believe that he's smiling as it without it. He's free. He's free. We're down here contending. And you brought up a wonderful... uh an event that i saw years ago it was that uh courtroom scene and i remember that uh brother's name the uh the murdered brother's name his name was odum and i remember crying like oh my look this this man has and he was a young man too if you recall i'm like he he was he's forgiving this woman i have the goosebumps even sharing that And then, of course, the judge giving the Bible. And there's a huge significance for all of us to see that. And that is what people saw yesterday. And we're going to get the hardcore. We're going to get the AOCs. And I'm going to get the I'll get the Ili and omaz and whatnot. But many people in there, there's a reckoning. There's something happening. And it hasn't come to fruition. And there's beauty in that. And it reminds me, and I remember years ago sharing this with you, and I think you said you knew this woman. Because this is where we're at as a country, Rwanda. And there's this woman named Immaculay Ilobegiza, and she was in the middle of that whole nightmare. She spent three months in a secret bathroom in a pastor's home that even his wife had no knowledge of. Can you imagine three months and she was three months with seven other women? This wasn't some big... glorious bathroom on an estate. This was just something, you know, you walk in, there's the tub, the toilet, and the sink, and seven women there.

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He's awarded a soul over to the devil. He was dead. He's dead. He's dead. And I met that woman at an event in a church, and I grabbed my girlfriend. We were sitting there and I go, I want what she has. Not her materialism, not all the stuff. She lives in America now. I want her presence. I want that spirit of peace that she, I mean, when she walked into the church. No, you nailed it. No, I've seen her. No, you're right. It's like there's a light on her. And that's what I felt yesterday with Erika Kirk. There was like a spiritual, transcendental light that just emanated from her. And Immaculi had the exact same thing. And look, people who know immaculay very well, and I know one in particular, who's basically best friends with her, they're telling me, what you saw in Rwanda in the 1990s between the Hutus and the Tutsis, which was, you know, what, over a million were slaughtered in three weeks with machetes. They just slaughtered each other. That they're starting to see the same thing now here. The same process of dehumanization, the same incitement. By the way, it was all lies. They'd go on the radio. There was more radio than TV because it's a very poor country. But they would go on the radio and claim that the other side or a prominent leader of the other side said X, Y, and Z. And he had never said that. Like literally, they were just making stuff up. And that's what, you know, what Ilhan Omar and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and what they're all doing. Oh, he, you know, he supports Jim Crow. He supports slavery. I'm like, you're lying through your teeth. And they did that on purpose to whip up hatred and frenzy. So in other words, it's okay. Go ahead and kill them because they're scum. They're sub-humans scum. And that's what you're starting to see slowly here in the United States. And that's why this has to be called out. There has to be consequence culture, as we're now calling it. Not cancel culture. That's what the left did. This is consequence culture. You have to be held responsible and accountable for your words, your deeds, your actions, and above all, your lies. Your incitement to violence, violent rhetoric, and to hatred. And that's now what finally many conservatives are starting to wake up to. Brenda, as always, thank you very, very much for that call. Bob in Plymouth, I know you've been holding patiently, Bob. Thank you and welcome. What a problem, Jeff. I'm so glad to hear you're feeling better, but two things I want to bring to your attention. Number one, the question you had earlier in the show, whether you would forgive the killer. Yes, no. You left off the third option. Never. Never would I ever forgive that guy for what he did? Never. But anyway, the next thing you're going to start hearing from the left is that guy can't get a fear of trial in this country with all this press coverage. There's no way they could have an honest jury. That's coming down the line. You watch. You know, I wish I could disagree with you, but you're right.

You're, as I like to say, a thousand, not 100, a thousand percent correct. And by the way, not only that, they're already going on about his relationship with that transgender furry, you know, guy, Lance Twigs. You know, this is like Romeo and Juliet, that this was such a passionate, loving affair between them. And that's really what motivated Tyler Robinson. He was protecting the great love of his life. From the harmful words of Charlie Kirk, and they're already in many corners, he's a hero, he's a folk hero for having killed Charlie Kirk. They're making direct comparisons between him and Luigi Mangione. And by the way, they're already saying they don't want the death penalty. Absolutely not. No, no, because why? Because they want to lionize him and they want him to be alive for 70 years to serve as an example and a model to others. That's how you deal with fascists. Look at Tyler Robinson. And so I wish I could tell all of you that he has remorse, or at least it's the reports that he has remorse. The reports are the exact opposite. That he feels guilt-ridden, he feels remorse, he feels sorry. No, quite the opposite. He thinks he struck a blow against quote-unquote hate. He struck a blow against Trump's, you know, Nazi, you know, coming Nazi dictatorship. According to Tyler Robinson and that sick boyfriend, both of them, they thought Charlie Kirk was the second coming of Hitler. 617-266868. Verna in Arlington. Thanks for holding Verna and welcome. Thank you very, very, very, very much, Jeff and all of you. And I want to say, good morning, not just Cooner Country, but Cooners America, to all of you out there. I did watch the memorial service from one till seven and after the whole thing as well. And I want to say, somebody just referred to a scripture verse, and I'll quote it right now. It's in Isaiah chapter. 61, Isaiah 61, it's verse 3, to appoint unto them that mourn, M-O-U-R-N, to give them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, again, M-O-U-R-I, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness, that they may be called. trees of righteousness, etc. And that's right after the quote that Jesus gives in 61 verse 1 and 2. A couple of comments here. I want to say to, I watch the whole thing. And I want to just give a little bit of history if you can allow me for a moment. My own spiritual, personal journey brought me through the Protestant, evangelical, Pentecostal journey into the Catholic realm. I am now a practicing Catholic. I came from an atheist, agnostic, unbelieving family background, and it was my recovery that brought me to believe in God.

And what I saw last night, the many ministers and pastors that also spoke, as well as all of the administration people, including President Trump, who was the final speaker after Erica, all of them spoke the gospel. All of them spoke about God. All of them were proclaiming the power of God. And I just want to say that was amazing. I took photographs of everything on TV. I was watching from TV, obviously. And this is miraculous. It is powerful. And I just, you know, I just want to put it out there. That to see the revival, and as Erica said, as well as other people said, this was not a funeral service. This was a revival. Oh, you nailed it. Verna, you nailed it. Look. I think there's no question. What we saw yesterday, that memorial service, one was a memorial service for a martyr, a genuine, as Trump put it, I thought so eloquently and powerfully, a martyr for American freedom, a martyr for the Constitution, a martyr for American patriotism. I think there's no question. And what you also are seeing now is a religious revival. This is what Charlie Kirk's murder, his assassination has led to. It has now spurred on a massive religious revival. You are especially with young people across the entire country. And I thought that was on full display yesterday. And that's why I think we're going to be living. with the effects of what this shooter did to Charlie Kirk. And Charlie Kirk's martyrdom and his example, I think now for years and years, if not decades to come, this is a fundamental turning point in America. We can all sense it. We can all feel it. Anyway, Verna, thank you very much for that call. Very well said. and in need them and we've got two minutes I hate to rush you but you've got two minutes go and with Charlie Kirk but let's remember that all good religions teach light over darkness good over evil respect justice and giving back Oh, and I completely agree. You know, this Charlie Kirk was a Christian himself, but what you're seeing now is a religious revival. It's not just people embracing Christianity. You're seeing many, Charlie Kirk had many Jewish supporters, many of them. Young Jewish supporters, and they're embracing their Judaism now more than ever. And you're seeing he had also many Indian supporters, Indian American, and they're embracing their Hinduism. So you're seeing it all religions. He had a profound impact because he kept saying his fundamental message was faith, family, and freedom. Final word to you, Anne.

No, that's it. Just all good religions teach light over the dark and respect, giving back, and we need that in our country. Amen. Amen. Amen. And thank you very much for that call, Ann. No, look, what we need is a restoration of good versus evil, of right and wrong, and really of a restoration of the belief in God. because if you go all the way back to our founding where do our rights come from it's right there in the declaration of independence we are endowed by our creator i.e. god almighty with certain unalienable rights And the foremost of these, or the foremost of these are the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So America was really founded upon religious freedom, founded upon God, founded upon fundamental individual rights and liberties that we all are given to us endowed by God Almighty. And that was the point Charlie tried to make again and again and again. Show me a godless society that is a free society. As he kept saying, show me a godless society anywhere in the world that is ultimately a humane, decent, civilized society. You can't. The best skaters, BMX riders and moto athletes in the world don't compete in leagues. Until now. The X-Games League Championship is live from New Orleans, July 24th through 26th. Three days of elite action sports, plus performances from Metro Boomin, J-I-D, Subtronics, and Bunt. Watch on ABC, ESPN and ESPN 2. Stream on the ESPN app, Roku, Kick, Amazon, and X-Games YouTube. The inaugural champion gets crowned this July. Got plans this summer? A brewery crawl? Another lake trip? The same festival you've been to three times already? Do something different. This August, Virginia International Raceway becomes the ultimate summer destination. Watch Inns' Michelin GT Challenge at VIR. August 21 through 23rd brings some of the fastest sports cars to battle through VIR's legendary corners. Camp with friends. Enjoy live music and experience a weekend you'll actually be talking about afterward. Start planning now at govir.net. If you're someone who's tracking your sleep, your steps, and your macros, then you already know that what you eat is kind of everything. You should also know that Sprouts Farmer's Market can help make eating for longevity easier. Sprouts has all the high-quality, nutrient-dense, organic foods and cutting-edge supplements you need. So whether you're focused on protein, gut health, or optimizing how you feel day-to-day, it's all there. And here's what no other grocery store can offer. an in-store wellness expert to help you find exactly what you need. So whether you're after longevity or on any other health journey, it's easier at Sprout's Farmer's Market. Mom, can I have Lingo Kids? Dad, Lingo Kids, please! When did we become the Lingo Kids' house? No idea. Last week it was dinosaurs. This week it's... Lingo Kids!

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