Bonus: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 30 2026

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And it's all during the battle fight when they're burning the guy at the stake, if you remember this scene. This is leading up to the final confrontation with Magua, played by Wes Studi, a fantastic American Indian actor who was also in heat, who was in dances with wolves. I celebrate his whole catalog. He's a very talented guy. There's about a four-minute, no audio segment of that movie that went viral. Because a lot of people haven't seen it. What did that come out? Like 1992-93-ish, probably. It's so good. And Elizabeth Warren has so taken over New England, continuing our Native American theme here, that she has eliminated everybody but Susan Collins. So in the New England area... The state of Maine is deciding who is going to run against Susan Collins. And the expectation was going to be Janet Mills, the governor. She's old, but has been elected statewide to Maine a lot. She had an expectation that she was basically going to waltz to this Democrat Senate nomination in Maine. Graham Platner, who is the 41 or 42-year-old former bartender with a... Nazi tattoo on his chest. He smoked her. And she dropped out this morning. So it is going to be Susan Collins against Graham Platner. I would say this. You might say, okay, Clay, what is the impact here? First of all, There's an actual guy with a Nazi tattoo that Democrats decided in a state like Maine that is kind of a purple state, hey, this is the guy that we want to be the avatar for our overall party. And this is indicative buck of, for those of you out there that are Jewish, the Democrat Party hates you now. I mean, that's just the reality. They called Trump a Nazi as an insult. They now have nominated a guy with an actual Nazi tattoo on his chest, and he is going to be their vanguard for trying to take back the Senate. Here is something that I think is worth thinking about. You like to talk about hubris, Buck. Is it possible? that Democrats are getting so cocky as they look at the 2026 midterm that they are starting to nominate actual far left wing nominees that may not play as well in their states. And I'll give you another example. They are, I think, in Michigan going to nominate this guy Abdul El-Sayed, who is crazy. Crazy left winger out of Michigan. He's going to win, I think, a competitive Democrat primary. Now, that's just two states. But Michigan is an open Senate seat. Republicans are defending in Maine. If Republicans win either of those seats, there is no mathematical equation that leads to any kind of challenge to Republican control in the Senate. And you and I have talked about this a great deal.

But it is important to keep in mind. We have a lot of older members of the Supreme Court. We've talked about Samuel Alito. We've talked about Thomas. John Roberts is no spring chicken now. You never know when a opening is potentially going to occur. If Democrats take back control of the Senate, there will be no Supreme Court opportunity to fill any vacancy for two years. So understand that the 28 presidential election would then be about who is going to be able to win that race to be able to pick a next Supreme Court justice. Just FYI. This was like a Clay Nato. Like we're all over the place here. We're talking New England. We're talking gerrymandering. I'm tying it all together. Midterm fight. Supreme Court justices. I mean, you give Clay Travis a five-minute monologue. You're going to cover every. No reference to sports, though. A little sad about that. But there will be opportunities. There will be opportunities. Is there anything going on in sports these days? I don't even know. So probably something. The Atlanta Braves can't lose. Like I said yesterday, I watched the Atlanta Braves every night. Nice walk off home run by Matt Olson against the Detroit Tigers. Do you think that this, so this morning, as I'm sure, as you were drinking your Jasmine Crockett coffee, because it's the best delicious coffee, as I was, I actually was, listening to. I'm drinking it right now. Supreme Court oral arguments. By the today's the first day that we declare and I have not worn the same color T-shirt by accident. There is in fact no uniform on the Clay and Buck Show, but sometimes you might get confused because, I don't know, mind meld. I'm like, if I wear, anyway, I'm not even going to get into that right now. Point is Supreme Court arguments this morning. Did you be listening into some of this? Yeah. I think that this is going to be, it's probably a six three, but it's a six three where the dissent is just going to be a whiny MSNBC comments rant from, from Elena Kagan, Sotomayor, and KBJ, because it's really straightforward. Just so you all, you guys all know what's going on here. You have basically people representing Syrian temporary protected status individuals and Haitian temporary protected status individuals. And those people are saying you're not allowed to end our temporary protected status. Now, and they've brought this all the way up to the Supreme Court. This is interesting to me, Clay, because in the words or in the phrase, there is this thing temporary. temporary protected status means we the American people are willing to give you safe harbor for a limited period of time with the understanding you will return home when you don't face you know torture rape mutilation death squad all that stuff right this is just us being nice but unfortunately this goes in the immigration category of the no good deed goes unpunished side of things because we've taken them in and now they're basically saying, well, we get to stay forever. And people say, no, they're not saying forever. No, well, they're saying that the process of ending their temporary status was an illegitimate process. The process is the government gets to say, okay, go home now. That is the process. But what they're trying to do is make this a race issue.

Because then, oh, it's a little bit like, you know, did O.J. You know, did O.J. kill his wife and that guy in a horrible, brutal fashion? Well, yeah, of course. But cops were racist ones in Los Angeles, right? And they're trying to make this something else. They're challenging this by saying, well, it's non-white people that are being told to go back to their homes. And we allowed some South Africans to come to America who are white who are facing racial persecution, by the way, which is the point. And now, Clay, I was honestly one of the weakest oral arguments from the Democrats. I think I've ever heard. So it's not going to be a 9-0, but I think it is a reminder to everybody that with immigration, your kindness, you, the American people, your kindness is never respected. Your kindness for people that are on temporary protected status is to be taken advantage of. After we talked yesterday, I got a bunch of emails from people who are involved in the SNAP program buck. And they were emailing me. Yes. They were emailing me just saying Republicans have basically gotten so afraid of being accused of hating poor people, right? I mean, that is the number one line of attack that Democrats bring to bear. You hate poor people. The amount of money, I don't think most people are even aware of it. The amount of money, $800 a month? for free food and the degree to which people qualify for it is staggering. $10,000 a year in just basically the government giving you free food credits that you can take to a grocery store. $10,000. We talk a lot about whether there should be universal basic income in the country now, right? There is, and I think it directly ties into immigration. I was looking the average snap person, right, recipient, makes almost more money, Buck, in free food in the United States than... I need to do research on this team. This is where you need a full-time researcher on the show because sometimes my math is not 100% correct. I want to make sure. I believe that if you live in Iran today, I think the average person is living in Iran. It's something on like $8,000 a year. in terms of GNP basic, you can make more money just by living in the United States in free groceries than the average person does living in Iran, period. Think about that for a moment. We give free food. to the poorest people in America that is worth more than many people make it an entire year living in a different country, and then we're surprised that people do everything they can to get here. Snap benefits alone in the United States are worth more than most people make in a year for actually working. We just give people free food here. And again, I think a lot of this you come back to and say,

The most overweight people in America are people that are getting free food in America. So there isn't any actual starvation or significant hunger that exists among the poor in the United States by and large. It just doesn't exist. No one starves to death here. In fact, you end up super fat on government-funded food. And again, people are so afraid of being accused of not liking poor people that they aren't even willing to look at what we spend. I think... Our snap budget buck is approaching $100 billion a year. This is crazy stuff. I mean, we've just gotten used to spending such a huge amount in our federal budget that nobody looks at it and just ask questions because they're so afraid of being accused of sending kids home hungry of not having anybody take it. There's nobody starving in the United States. It does not exist. We are giving people so much free stuff. that the amount of the desperation to get here is it makes sense. You can make more money in free food than you can working a whole year in much of the rest of the world. You want me to really blow your mind? So Medicaid. is the single biggest driver of debt and the single biggest line item in budgets of places like New York State. The biggest thing, the biggest thing the state of New York, and remember federal dollars, they're always funneling federal dollars into the New York State Medicaid, just like they do in California with Calcare or whatever they call it, you know, MediCal, I think, right? Yeah, I think it's MediCal. Clay. The most comprehensive study, this is from the New England Journal of Medicine. This isn't from, you know, right-wing antivax mommy.net backslash ampersand. Not that there's anything wrong with that site. But the Oregon experiment, effects of Medicaid on clinical outcomes, they looked at a large, they looked at thousands and thousands, 6,387 adults, Clay. and looked at people's health outcomes, Medicaid versus non-Medicaid in the same. They controlled, I won't describe the entire experiment. You know what they found? Having Medicaid coverage versus having no Medicaid coverage made no discernible difference whatsoever in health outcomes among the group. So we had this massive health care program that doesn't actually make people healthier. and is the biggest driver of debt for most states, which we are paying for. Yeah, this is my whole argument. If you just cut half of all medical treatment, there would be zero impact in average lifespan. If you just waved a magic wand and said, hey, we're going to cut 50% of all health care spending in the United States. I think it would have no impact. By the way, according to Grock, I'm right.

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She'll do great things for our country and help make America healthy again. Congrats, Nicole. Our country has long been waiting for you. She is also now in the Clay and Buck podcast network. So this is the second person. to leave the Clay and Buck Podcast Network, among other things, she is a doctor. But to now, we first, Sean Parnell joined the Pentagon, and he is the chief spokesperson for Pete Hegseth. And now Nicole Sapphire is going to be the Surgeon General. So you're stepping from the Clay and Buck Podcast Network into high levels of government jobs. She's obviously on Fox News and as well as a doctor. We've had Nicole in the program quite a bit over the years. She's great, but congratulations to her. This reminds me of what I did. You've known Pete for a long time. But I did election night from Kid Rock with Pete Hegseth. And then I didn't even know I was driving in a car pickup line for my kids. And I wasn't even sure when they were like, hey, what do you think about the new Secretary of Defense nominee being a guy you've done shows with? And I was like, did Bucket nominee? Like it could have been anybody, right? Like, you know. But a lot of the people that you hear on this program are obviously very involved in government. So congrats to Dr. Sapphire. Have I ever told you what is probably my favorite Pete Hegseth story from the Blaze Days? Is it the drinking dirty water? I did tell you. I did tell you. Yeah, yeah. But you should tell it again. I mean, I do think that's kind of indicative of, you know, where we had a survival gear sponsor. who made a, and I'm going to be clear, this was in Midtown Manhattan folks, okay? We had a survival gear sponsor at the Blaze who made some kind of a, like, I don't really, this is, we're going back, this is almost 15 years ago, okay, it's been a long time, 13, 14 years ago at least. And it was like you can be at a muddy stream or pond or whatever and you run the water through this contraption and it is safe to drink. That was basically the thing. And I think it was Will Kane, now Fox News's 4 PM host, was my co-host on Real News. There were a few of us. It was a roundtables. There were four plus a rotating guest. uh rotating contributor and Pete Hegseth was the was in that rotation so he was the host for the day and i remember i think will it's like a very will cane thing to just be like you know i don't think i don't think you're willing to really you know he kind of like goaded goaded him peed on this one a little bit uh and you know they're very you know they hosted fox and friends together for years so they're they're very tight they're very good buddies but this was years and years ago he's like i don't think you'll do it and to his credit and i i'm going to tell you this is true i actually kind of left him like pete don't don't do this i was like i was like actually a little worried i think the surprises none of you that will is like come on step up

Let's see what you got. And Pete, now our secretary of war, went to a, you know those like oil slick kind of puddles on the side of a New York City sidewalk where the water is this kind of brown, translucent, sludge, whatever? I kid you not. He scooped that up into the contraption, put it through and chugged it. I was amazed. By the way, he was fine. So we should have videoed it because it was a great ad. But that was one of the ballsier things I'd see in anybody who was a TVOs to at the time. Oh, of course he turned to me. Clay, what do you think? Do you think I was like, oh, yeah, I'll try it now? There's zero percent chance that you are willing to do that. Zero percent. You guys think Captain get off my lawn was going to try the dirty water? Zero chance. I was like, only Fiji in the bottle for me, sir. So anyway, but that's one of my favorite Pete stories. You have to take your monocle off to be trying that water. Absolutely. I was like the water for the peasants out of the street, I think not. So, all right. Now let's get you. I just kind of a fun little memory lane thing there. It's amazing with that show. A lot of the people who went on and did great things. And yeah, for future Secretary of Defense. Secretary, I'm very confident they're going to change the name back if it's a Democratic. Whenever there is a Democrat administration, they're not going to keep the Secretary of War thing, just so you guys will. So that's, I don't know how we're going to handle this. Now we're going to go back and forth. Different administrations have it. Anyway, let's talk Supreme Court TPS for a second here, Clay. I thought this was really interesting. One of the ways that... One of the ways that the whole DEI affirmative action thing falls apart, there are many ways. Inherently in principle, it's just wrong. But one of the ways it falls apart is when you start to dig into what are the classifications really? For example, if you're going to discriminate against white people, which is what DEI and affirmative action do, who qualifies as white? I had a friend many years ago who was an Arab Egyptian born in Cairo who claimed that she was African for the purposes of her college. African, not African American, African for the purposes of her college admissions. And it was a huge scandal and I think they accepted it and then rescind. It was a big problem. And she's like, okay, so I'm from Africa. literally born and raised there, but, you know, I think she'd apply to Harvard, but you don't accept that. So it's a skin color test? Is that what actually, and this is where it all, listen to, this isn't just a theoretical. The Supreme Court today talking about Haitian and Syrian temporary protected status individuals. Notice the temporary word in there. They're fighting this. No, no, no. They've had this for years and years and years. It's not like they've been here for two weeks. Notice the way that Samuel Alito pushes one of the plaintiffs in the case, the, what do you call? Lawyer, what's the guy? Complaintant. You use the legal things. Yeah.

uh yeah he's not just i mean typically would be the they're suing so i i don't know what the official title would be in front of the supreme court but he's the advocate for the perspective of the uh attorney for the plaintiff yeah so so play listen to this though what is white Samuel Alito asks like like i really listen to this play one isn't it the case that TPS was terminated for quite a list of countries. I can't seem to find the particular page of the transcript where the district court goes through them all. Yes, none of those is a Nordic country, and I don't like dividing up the people of the world arbitrarily into three racial groups. But you say they're all non-white, and that's the distinguishing characteristic. That is the distinguishing characteristic that the district court held. But I would emphasize, Samuel Alito, that if you put Syrians, Turks, Greeks, and other people who live around the Mediterranean in a lineup. Do you think you could say those people are all of them? Are they all non-white? I understand that Syrians, I think, may be classified as white for purposes of the State Department or for under certain government programs. But again, I think race is, I think. You know, you'd have to pull the public to know what they think the race of Assyrian is. I certainly think they're not white. Clay, he obviously starts, you know, jabbering on here. He has no. I actually want, I just want this to continue because this is Samuel Alito asking a very fair question. Your contention, people suing, is, oh, it's so racist because they don't want any of the, they're not, you know, it's only white people that are okay. but aren't there white people in these countries that, and when I say, it's not like there's a few, aren't there people in some of these countries that are white, that, you know, maybe even the majority of or a large percentage of, part two of this Supreme Court argument. Play this one. Pull the American people. Well, do they think Syrians are white? I wouldn't think that most would, Samuel Alito. Really? I really don't. How about Turks? I honestly haven't considered what racial component I would sort Turks into. How about Greeks? I don't know the answer to that either. How about Southern Italians? Well, certainly 120 years ago when we had our last wave of European immigration, Southern Italians were not considered white. So I think our concept of these things evolves over time. How about Spangers? I think same answer, about 120 years ago. I don't think they were considered white. I have a really large, a really broad definition of who's white and who's not white. As I said, I don't like dividing the people of the world into these groups. I understand. I would say that even under this court's rationality jurisprudence, if you look at cases like Moreno, it is not necessary for us to get strict scrutiny to win here. Because irrespective of how you do the classification. Okay, put this aside because this is about the race thing. Clay.

I've been to Greece. I mean, I've been to Athens. I've been to Madrid. If you walked around and you told your, I mean, I know there are also black people in these countries, of course, but what you think of is your average Greek or your average Madrieno guy lives in Madrid, and you're like, you're not white. They would laugh in your face. They'd be like, what are you talking about? I mean, that line of questioning is so, so, I think, indicative of the racial spoils system that Democrats have created and just kind of hoisting them on their proverbial pittard by going through. I mean, look, it's like the drop of blood makes you black theory back in the day, right? In the South pre-Civil War era. Democrats have allowed identity politics to so take over their party. that they have no way to escape. This is why Kamala Harris has to be the nominee to me, Buck. In 28, not only in 24, because certainly that's why she was the nominee in 24. The racial spoil system that they have created does not allow a black woman like Kamala Harris to be left behind from being the nominee. She's going to play the race and gender card to such an extent that I don't think there's any way. Democrats are going to be able to get past her. I really don't buck. And I saw I was joking with you off air because the Polly Market for who's going to be the nominee, Kamala Harris has quadrupled in the last couple of months, her odds to be the nominee. And I'm not saying, look, whenever I give a prediction like this, I'm not saying I want it to have. Do you know what depth charges are? You see me with depth charges, you know, when they would try to get submarines and drop it down. I feel like your depth charging Buck Island right now. Like we're already deep underwater and you're dropping them way down and just boom, boom, you know. I'm telling you. I think you've won this one. She is going to play. But I mean, the step beyond, she's definitely going to run. But she is going to be the nominee. And some of you out there are shaking your heads and you think I'm crazy. I'm telling you she's going to be the nominee. Can we just, can we come back to this point, though, then on this? Yeah. Will she be formidable if she's the nominee? Like, do we have to worry about it? There's an early tease. That's what we call it's in the business. And who knows, by the time we come back, somebody else may be nominated from the network to be a member of the administration. But I do want to tell you, it's not very long until Mother's Day. And how many of you have taken care of your Mother's Day shopping? I bet a lot of you have not. Check out Cozy Earth. It's awesome. Cuddle Blanket is impossible not to like. You cannot go wrong with that.

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I want to get to the AG situation. I'm also a little bit of a legal nerd. So thank you for throwing your name in the race here and being willing to deal with the slings and arrows. But I wanted to ask you, I believe you were on the D.C. Circuit and clerked for Brett Kavanaugh. At least that's what the resume I read said. What was Brett Kavanaugh like and what was that experience like for you? Well, Brett Kavanaugh, not Brett Kavanaugh, was just is a phenomenal judge, is the hardest working person that I know, a very decent man, someone I consider a mentor and a friend, and someone who really is a big supporter of all of his clerks and especially his female clerks. I often tell people you, the first opinion that I helped Brett Kavanaugh with was an opinion that we went through. More than a hundred drafts because he cares so much about getting the law right, making sure that the law. also impacts people in the right way. You know, he's not someone who's stuck in the ivory tower. He really thinks about how does the law interact with people's everyday lives and is a decision that he's coming to consistent with the law itself, respectful of the separation of powers, consistent with the text of the law, and does it make sense in how it fits in with people's everyday lives? So what are you going to do differently if you become the Attorney General of the state of New York? Because a lot of people think of, you mentioned living in New York City, which I did for almost 40 years or so. There's crime on the streets there. People say, well, that's an NYPD thing, and that's a local thing. And how does the Attorney General for New York play into making not just people in New York City, but people safe across the state more broadly? Like what kind of priorities are set? I mean, take us into that. Yeah, I mean, listen, the Attorney General can prosecute crime. You wouldn't know it because she doesn't really use those powers. But there's a number of areas where the Attorney General can prosecute crime on her own or with the signature of the governor or any state agency head. And the issue right now in New York is that we don't have strong prosecutors. And we don't have strong prosecution policies and laws. We had this sea change in 2019 and 2020 where this anti law enforcement wave came into the state. And so even though for many years, we did prosecute crime well. We did keep the numbers low. We now have a phenomenon in New York where every day you hear about someone getting hurt and the person that's hurting them is a repeat offender, already known to law enforcement, already arrested. But because of our broken system, that person is back out on the street. And to be fair, it's not the police's fault. We have the best police force in the world. They're real professionals. But the police can't do it alone. They need prosecutors to back them out and to follow through on the cases and actually make sure real consequences are imposed on the people that they catch.

And that is where we're lacking in New York. So I'm going to use the Office of the Attorney General to make sure we actually prosecute crime. You know, we have a DA in Manhattan who issued a memo on day one saying, I'm not going to prosecute these, you know, 15 offenses where I'm going to treat them with leniency. I'm going to knock down the charges. Well, the Attorney General can step in and say, actually, then I'm going to prosecute those things. A great example of this is subway crime. The DAs in New York City don't prosecute their evasion. Even though the city and the state are losing millions of dollars a year and don't know how to make ends meet with their budget. They don't actually make many people, a huge fraction of people pay the fare. But it's not just about the money. That's one part of it. The bigger problem is we now have people in the subways who are either mentally ill or who are actual violent criminals hurting others. And that's a problem. Those kinds of people should never be in the subway. Every day New Yorkers have to take the subway to go to work and go to school and see their families. They shouldn't be afraid. of being pushed on the tracks, for example. But that's exactly what people are afraid of. You go into the subway today and everyone's got their back to the wall. Because you know what? In 2006, so far, nine people have been pushed on the tracks. And the last person who was pushed on the tracks was an elderly fellow, an 83 year old gentleman, Air Force veteran, pushed by someone who had 15 prior offenses. So. This is the kind of lawlessness that we're seeing, and it's preventable because the attorney general, as attorney general on day one, I will create a transit crime strike force. I'll make sure we prosecute their evasion so that dangerous people are stopped at the Bill Gates aren't let in to the subway system at all. And I'll make sure we ban people like that, repeat offenders, violent offenders from the subway system altogether. So I was just going to say, how does a Republican win in New York? What's the math? Well, it's simple. You know, it's a very divided time in New York. You wouldn't necessarily know it from the outside, but when you live here, it's very simple. Most people in New York are not actually on the far left. We have a Democratic Party that's lost all the way to the extremes. And there's a lot of folks in the middle who are looking for common sense. And what we're talking about, bringing back law and order, enforcing the laws, doing so in a way that's ethical and lawful, but enforcing the laws, those are things that most New Yorkers agree on and most Americans agree on. They want you to enforce the laws. They want you to reduce crime, reduce homelessness, reduce fraud. They're not actually partisan issues, and we're going to win because of that. So I've seen a poll that shows 54%. This is a recent poll, by the way, Sienna poll, 54% of voters are open to a different attorney general than the one that they have right now, which seems to line up with a lot of New Yorkers aren't crazy, it turns out. Well, that's exactly right. 54% of New Yorkers either actively prefer someone other than Letitia James or open to someone else.

That is, she is the weakest incumbent in New York State. She's less popular than the governor. That, you just answered the question of exactly why it's winnable. So you're just so, you know, you're on WOR, a massive station in New York City right now. You're on WGY and all. I mean, I can't name. We got stations all over the state of New York, which is fine. We're heard out in Long Island on the WOR. And so that's good. I'm curious, though. Are you getting any fair attention, any fair time from the rest of the New York? By the way, Letitia James, absolutely welcome to come on this program team. Make sure we have that. I think we already did have it out, but let's sure we have that invite out to her. She is welcome to come and talk to us about why she hasn't been the worst attorney general in the history of New York State, although Spitzer was kind of bad. How is the New York media treating you? Are you getting a fair shot at all from them? Who's putting your – because I feel like we've just got to get your name out there more – because Letitia James is terrible. And she's honestly just terrible. I can say it. I can say whatever I want. It's an opinion show. She's awful. Well, listen, I appreciate that question. We are making our way around the state. We're getting a lot of, we were getting a lot of attention. I was in Albany yesterday. I had a press conference talking about exactly what we were just discussing transit crime. And I was standing alongside legislators and Albany who are proposing enhanced penalties for those crimes. I was in Buffalo a few weeks ago holding a press conference there. And, you know, local TV radio has had me on there, including a number of different shows, you know, Channel 2, Sports Talk Radio. So we are making our way around. And the most important thing that I would say, you know, given the statewide reach is, you know, you would be surprised. The issues that I talk about, you know, the repeat offenders out on the streets, the increase in drug deaths, the issue of homelessness, they're not just city issues. These are issues that every county in New York State is experiencing. And I know that because I am going county by county and holding law enforcement roundtables. I just had another one this morning in Green County. Where I sit down with the sheriffs and the police and the DAs and I say, hey, what is going on? What are you seeing? What are you hearing? And it is always some version of the same story. There are no consequences anymore in New York. And law-abiding people know it and they're getting frustrated and the criminals know it and they are committing more crime because that's what happens when there's no consequences. These are solvable problems. We're going to solve them together because we're going to put together a common sense coalition. across the political spectrum to bring change to New York. Sarita, where can folks go in the state of New York if they want to help out, get involved? On my website, Sarita, S-A-R-I-T-H-A-4 New York, all spelled out.com. There's a form on there. There's more information. You'll see my recent media appearance as well, as well.

Good luck. It would be nice to have some law and order back in the Empire State. I'm always rooting for New York, from afar, from Florida with my zero state income tax. But good luck to you. Thank you so much, Zaritha. Come in already. Appreciate you. Thank you very much. Look, yesterday, Charles III, Queen. Cam, Camilla, man, I don't know why I can't, that's a weird name, isn't it? I mean, now and Kamala Harris is so close. Yesterday, Charles III and Queen Camilla visited the 9-11 Memorial and Museum in New York City. They took part in a wreathling ceremony honoring the victims there. The British and Commonwealth people overall lost 67. lives on 9-11, the most of any nation other than our own. Our sponsor, Tunnel to the Towers, was started by the brother of a firefighter who lost his life that day. And many of you know the story of Stephen Siller. He had just finished his shift, was on his way to play golf with his brothers when he got word of a plane hitting the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Upon hearing the news, Stephen called his wife Sally and asked her to tell his brothers he would catch up with them later. They never saw him again. That is the story that inspired Frank Siller to start Tunnel to Towers. And his older brother, Frank Siller, well, he's been fighting ever since on behalf of so many people out there putting their lives on the line, sometimes losing their lives on behalf of all of us. As we come up on the 25th anniversary of that horrific day, Buck and I are going to be doing lots of events with Tunnel to Towers. And we're also donors. You can join us in being donors to this great organization. by giving $11 a month at t2t.org. You can also amplify your impact with a car or land donation. Go to t2t.org. That's t, the number two, t.org. Miss the show while you're on the go. Wind down your day with the Daily Review podcast. Find it on the I Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcast. What God started in my life, he's going to finish. The Joel Osteen Daily Podcast. Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life. What was meant for my harm, Lord, I want to thank you right now. You're turning to my advantage. Your daily source of hope and encouragement. Your second wind is on its way. God is about to breathe on your life in a new way. Listen to the Joel Osteen Daily podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, and wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Welcome back in. Hour number three, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton's show. A couple little news stories out there. Your S&P 500.

Well, one, I'm not a governor that's begging people to move to the state. I've never had. People are doing it because it's a free country and they're trying to go to greener pastures. Two, the political fallout of this. A lot of our folks were very worried early in my tenure when Florida was a 50-50 state. You start seeing California license plates showing up in Florida. It's like, well, do we want to import Berkeley here and turn the state blue? Obviously not. But here's what's happened with that. If you take all 49 other states and look individually at who's moved to Florida since I've been governor, there have been more Republicans than Democrats for all 49 states individually. Vermont, California, you name it. And so it really has been people that are coming largely, I think, because they want to do it. Now, look, on the housing, housing has gone up everywhere since COVID. I think on the high end in Florida, it's gone up astronomical because people are paying huge amounts of money to be able to live here. Government should not be trying to impact that market. I think when we do that, it doesn't work. I think they're doing a housing bill in the U.S. Senate now, which I think is Elizabeth Warren, will be a disaster. So these things ebb and flow. On the insurance, we just announced citizens, our insurer of last resort. is actually reducing premiums by up to 15% in southern Florida, which we have never seen that happen. And we've had about 15 new companies come in since we did our insurance reforms about a year and a half ago, and you are seeing stability and even reductions there. It's also spilled over into auto insurance. We've had the biggest reductions in auto insurance rates over the last year in the history of the state, and it's not going down in very many states, given the environment that we're in. But at the end of the day, There's positives when people come, but there's also challenges. And I know a lot of my folks that I've known a long time, you know, they kind of take pride that people want to be in Florida. But they're also like, you know, can we have a little bit of a break from some of the stuff? I just did a groundbreaking in Ormond Beach up by Daytona. What we saw when we saw the... We plowed billions of dollars into accelerating road projects. So I have projects that weren't even slated to start until next decade are now being done, you know, five, 10, 15 years ahead of schedule. And we have big surplus, big rainy day fund. So we have the capacity to do it and to try to get ahead of it to try to help with people's quality of life. I got to ask you also, Governor, about the... property tax situation here. There's all, as you know, a lot of coverage of this. I know you've talked about it before. I think we even spoke to you about it maybe six months ago. Can you give us an update on where this stands for, because I also think this could be a model for other states as well. And the more success Florida has being a low tax and well-run state, the more of a model it is for other places where people want to be sane and see growth and see things working the way that they should.

Where are things right now on the homesteaded properties as it pertains to property tax? So the soon... This it can be done is the November general election when Florida voters have to vote to make this change in our Constitution by 60%. And so we've said that all along. We're working with folks in the legislature about getting language approved that will go on. I'm not prepared to do it yet because I don't think it's opportune to do it yet, but we will do it. And so it will be done before the summer's out in time to be on the ballot. And the ultimate goal, of course, is... your homesteaded property would be exempt from property tax. How can you do that? You're not going to have police. You're not going to have any of this. Well, listen to this. 2019, when I became governor, all this revenue is local. None of this goes to the state on property tax in Florida. But local governments in 2019 brought in $32 billion in property tax revenue. Today, that's $60 billion going to local governments. Did we not have police or any of this in 2019 when it was $32 billion? And yes, we've had population growth. Yes, we've had inflation. Heck, throw in a few percent a year just for the heck of it. You still would not be at $60 billion. And so what they're doing is because Florida's property values have gone up, because people are buying homes at higher tax bases, they're raising the valuations and they're getting a windfall. I would rather the windfall go to you. as the homeowner. I would rather you be able to actually own your own home. And so I think the, so it's going to get done. And even the people that like privately don't want to do anything on this, they know they have to do it. Otherwise, they're not going to be able to do well in the election. So to get done. But I think a couple of the issues that we got to make sure we get right. You know, one is do you, do you, how quickly can you get to full exemption? Maybe you got to phase it in. Look, that's fine. I mean, I want to get it done. And then if people just decide to up and move here after it passes, should they then have to pay property tax for a time before they can qualify? I mean, if you've been here 20 years, you've paid, someone comes in right after the vote and does it. So we don't want to create bad incentives for that. And then I've already said, we will provide out of our surplus some financial support for the locals to get through this transition period. But the homestead revenue... is about 30% of property tax revenue statewide. So they'd still be able to tax the Airbnb if some rich guy from Columbia buys a mansion and Coconut Grove, you still tax it to Canadians. the commercial properties, all that stuff. And what will happen is that that revenue is going to continue to grow like it's grown anyways. So you're basically limiting local government's ability to expand, which I think that's something that we should want to do, even apart from the tax, just as people that believe in limited government. I think it's going to be very popular, but I think the entrenched interests are going to hate it.

And I think they're going to do everything they can do to fight. And so when the... Who hates it? Sorry, but who hates it? Who's opposing this, really? I'm just curious. Teacher unions, local politicians, local bureaucrats. I mean, honestly, even group business groups, I think because they, you know, they like the predictability of what they have now. Politicians in both parties even to a certain extent. California actually did good property tax reform in 1978. It was Prop 13. It was a big tax revolt. And all the stakeholders were against it. The people passed it overwhelmingly. So just be prepared when this gets approved to be on the ballot later in this summer. You are going to hear people say that we're no longer going to have police. We're no longer going to have schools. That is what they are going to say. And then all you've got to say is, well, wait a minute. Why did we go from $32 billion to $60 billion in seven years? Do we have twice as many police and schools and all this other stuff? Of course we don't. They're growing government and they're using that money as a windfall. You've been one of the best, the most successful governors anytime, anywhere. Gavin Newsom's been one of the worst anytime, anywhere. I believe the father-in-law moved of Gavin Newsom moved to Florida, if I'm not mistaken. Does a part of you want to really get to run in some way against Gavin Newsom? We know you smoked him in that debate on Sean Hannity's show. But it feels like to me you guys both represent very well the Republican versus the Democrat perspective. He's wrong on everything. I think you're pretty much right on everything. Would you like to run against him? Would you like for the nation to have an opportunity to hear both those arguments? So it's funny about his father-in-law because I didn't know his father-in-law until, this is a few years ago, I'm doing a dinner down in southwest Florida. You know, people are going around the table. There's probably like 25 people. Oh, you know, I'm so-and-so. Thanks, Governor, for this. And I knew some of the people I didn't know of them. Well, it gets around the table. And this nice gentleman says, you know, governor just want to let you know. We move from California. My wife and I, we love Florida, what you're doing. We couldn't take it in California anymore. And we're so glad to be here. Best decision, right? Which was nice to hear. But, I mean, honestly, I've heard that before. And then he paused. And then he looked up and he said, oh, and by the way, I'm Gavin Newsom's father-in-law. And the whole place just erupted. Everyone just starts laughing. And it's like, yeah, I mean, I've had a fundraising dinner. for my reelection, and I've got the governor of California's father-in-law, you know, donating money and being happy to be there. So, look, I think that the issue between Florida and California is emblematic of a debate. You know, we're probably going to have to have in a little bit more sharp way as we go forward because the left, they view California as the ideal. We don't think California screwed up.

They aim to be able to get to California. So they want to turn Virginia into California. They want to turn Michigan into California. They want to go in that direction. So California is really five or ten years ahead of where the National Democratic Party is. And I think Florida represents, you know, there was so many years where we had people, conservative voters were like, you know, don't squish out. Don't, we're sick of the establishment. Be strong. Do all this. And there was a, the establishment said, you can't do that. Because if you do that, we can't win and the voters don't like it. Well, I came in and basically in a very close election, and I said, you know what? I'm bold. I'm going to do it. Bold colors, not pale pastels. We're going to lead on all these issues. And obviously COVID and some of these things gave us an opportunity to lead. But what we've proved is the thesis that conservatives have had that. that when you are bold in a conservative direction, you will not only produce good policy results, and we've produced the best, but you will have big political results. And I didn't do it for that reason. But think about us having 300,000 more registered Democrats in 2018, and now we have 1.5 million more Republicans. And so I do think we have a model. that's shown that it can work nationwide. Florida is a microcosm of the nation. I mean, we are not a monolithic state. You go to the panhandle, it's, you know, similar to Alabama and Louisiana, Mississippi. You go to Miami, more similar to Latin America. You go to Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale. It's like New York South. You go to Southwest, Florida. It's the Midwest transported down there. You go to Central Florida. It's a mix of everything. And so we were able to do that. with really diverse demographics and do it in a way that I think was more significant than anyone thought possible. Last question for you. I saw you at the White House. You're working on NIL, which is fundamentally broken in college sports. But also there's been reports that you might be involved in the Trump administration, given that you are term limited out. You've been governor for eight years. What do you think the future holds in college sports and also for you? Well, one, anytime I mention in reports, just understand that's gossip. I've never been approached to do anything and I've never asked to do anything because I've got a lot on my plate. So I would just tell you, take that with a grain of salt. On the college sports, I'm actually very optimistic. You go back six months ago. We had no momentum to do anything. There was no leadership. And I talked with President Trump about this at the end of last year. And he's like, I want to tackle it. He's like, well, you help get some guys together. So I brought Nick Sabin, Urban Meyer. Condi Rice, a bunch of these people. Randy Levine from the Yankees has brought a bunch of great people together. We did that big event at the White House, which really focused people's attention on it. And I will tell you this, I don't want to get ahead of where Congress is going, but I will tell you for the first time we actually have momentum in the U.S. Senate. These senators are working on all the key issues, and you guys know the issues. You probably need an antitrust exemption to make sure all this can stick and not have endless lawsuits. You've got to have an eligibility framework. People shouldn't be playing until they're 27. You need to have a transfer portal limitations. And you need to have NIL. Be true NIL. If someone wants to endorse you or something fine, but not have these university collectives.

where it's like, oh, coach, I just threw for 300 yards, give me another million dollars. Oh, okay, fine, I'm going to leave. That's unsustainable, and it's hurting all these other sports. So those are kind of the key issues, and I know there's a bunch of others, but if they just provided a framework to be able to get that done, you will see a massive improvement. And I do think there's been positive momentum, and I do think it's possible that you get legislation before the summer is over. Good stuff, as always, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. We appreciate the time. Keep killing it. Take care. Bye-bye. Rapid Radio's brain, mental mugging with clay and buck. What God started in my life, he's going to finish. The Joel Osteen Daily Podcast. Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life. What was meant for my harm, Lord, I want to thank you right now. You're turning to my advantage. Your daily source of hope and encouragement. Your second wind is on its way. God is about to breathe on your life in a new way. Listen to the Joel Osteen Daily podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your favorite podcasts.