Verdict with Ted CruzJune 17, 202632m

Iran DEAL! What’s in it? Plus Shocking Georgia Election Results

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And I got to say, so Rick's story, let me tell you a little bit about the guy. And I did not know him until the last few days, but I looked at his record. I examined it. I talked to people and knew him, and I made the decision to endorse it. So his story, he grew up in a broken home in the projects in Atlanta. poverty, dysfunction. As a young boy, he ran away from home. He ended up going into the foster home system. As a child, he had five foster families. So that's what he came out of. He then went on to college, spent, I think, a little over a year in college, dropped out of college, did not succeed in college. And he went and got a job. This is a cool story. So he went and interviewed to work for a company that was engaged in health care sales. He did the interview. He did pretty well. And then the guy interviewing him said, I'm sorry, look, we only hire people who have college degrees. You dropped out of college. We're not going to hire you. And Rick said, okay, that's fine. He said, can I ask you just out of curiosity? What did the job pay? And the guy said, well, it paid $1,500 a month. plus 33% of all the sales you make. And Rick came back. He said, I'll tell you what. How about if you don't pay me the $1,500 a month, don't pay me anything, but just give me the 33% of the sales. And the guy kind of laughed. He said, well, that sounds like a good deal. I don't have anything to lose on that, do I? So he hired him, even though he didn't have a college degree. He came in and was a monster salesman. ended up making so much money that within two years, he bought the company that had hired him. Wow. And he ends up building this company into a massive multi-billion dollar healthcare company in Georgia. He's one of the biggest employers in the state of Georgia, incredibly successful businessman, self-built from nothing. Yeah. He now has been an incredibly generous philanthropist. He's decided, look, I don't want to take, he's worth several billion dollars. He's very successful. And he said, I don't want to take this money with me. So I'm going to give it away and make a difference to the world around me. So for example, on foster care. He has given millions to help foster kids in Georgia. So kids that are in foster care, he'll come in and say, you know what, I'm going to pay for you to go to college. I'm going to pay for your expenses. I'm going to help you get started because he's been there. Look, so many foster kids, they've been subject to horrible conditions. They've often been subject to abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse. They're the kids that it seems sometimes society gives up on. And he understands firsthand. Look, you can be in that circumstance and you can make something of your life and make a real difference. And so he's invested in these kids that have every disadvantage. I'm going to help them achieve their dreams. He's also funded Christian ministries all over the world. For example, he's funded a Christian orphanage in China.

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that my understanding is it's the lone orphanage that's able to teach Christianity in China. So he's putting, look, you and I are both Christians. It's one thing to have empty words. It's one thing to say you have faith. It's another thing to put your faith to action, to invest and make a difference. And Rick decided, okay, I'm going to run for governor. because I think I can make a difference. And I looked at his record and I said, this guy has an incredible, I mean, an inspirational life story and I think he can win. And so I endorsed him. I went down, we did a big rally in Georgia. And I'm going to give you some fun behind the scenes story. So as we're coming in, I fly down there on Monday. We're going to the rally. And Trump had endorsed his opponent, this guy named Bert Jay Jones. I don't know, Bert Jay Jones. I'm sure he's a perfectly decent and fine man. He's the lieutenant governor. And he endorsed early, right? Like, so people understand the timeline. He endorsed early before Rick was in the race. And so I understand. That's a key point. Yeah. He went for who he thought at the time. The other guy wasn't in yet. Yeah. Jay Jones was the lieutenant governor. He was running. And so Trump endorsed early. Rick wasn't in the race. So Rick was actually at the White House at a big fundraiser this weekend. And, you know, Trump was saying, hey, this guy's great. He's awesome. He's incredibly successful. I didn't know him. But he was like praising him vocally at this fundraiser this weekend. As I'm flying in, I'm headed to the event and we get the news. that Donald Trump Jr. is going to endorse Rick Jackson. Now, that's a big deal because the main argument against him, what everyone was pounding him is that Trump, Trump the dad had endorsed his opponent. You know, tons of campaign ads saying Trump picked the other guy. And we get the news that Donald Trump Jr. was going to endorse Rick. And it was actually fun as I'm headed to the event. The campaign said, hey, do you want to announce Donald Trump Jr.'s endorsement? And listen, Donald Trump Jr. is a buddy of mine. I know him very well. And I was like, yeah, sure. And I said, look, I just want to help your campaign. So if it's helpful for me to announce it, I'm happy to. If it's not, like it's your call, but I'm more than happy to. And they ended up deciding that Donald Trump Jr., the actual endorsement statement was not going to use the word endorse, but was going to praise him as like he's a great patriot. I know him well. And he's fantastic. And he's America first. And the timing ended up working out. I said, sure, I'm happy to announce it. But then they didn't end up approving the statement for another two hours. And it just, look, it takes some time. When you're right before an election and you're trying to decide going through a political operation, it takes some time to approve it. So I said, I'm happy to announce it. It wasn't finalized. So I did not, in fact, announce it from the stage. But right after I left. Donald Trump Jr. tweeted out the support. And tonight, Rick ended up winning. The margin as of tonight, 99% is in, is 52.6% to 47.4%. It's a great victory. And I think, so one of the cases I made to the voters, we had a big, big rally in Georgia. And I said, listen, Rick's life story is incredible. He's campaigning.

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On a promise, number one, to immediately freeze property taxes in Georgia. That's big. Number two, on income taxes to cut the Georgia income tax in half and ultimately to work to abolish it all together. And what Rick has said is he said if he doesn't succeed in freezing the property taxes and cutting the income tax in half. he will not run for re-election. He will serve one term. If he fails in that, he's not running for re-election. And I made a point to everyone. I said, listen, I've got a crazy secret here. Rick is rich. Like everyone laughs. I'm like, yeah, look, this is an incredibly successful dude. He could play golf every day. He could sit on the beach and drink dafferies and live a life of leisure. And I said, listen, to run for office. You've got to be nuts. You've got to be certified. You get attacked constantly. There's so much. And Rick is doing this. The case I made, I said Rick is doing this because he believes in Georgia. He believes in the country. He believes he could make a difference. And listen, Georgia used to be bright red. The unfortunate reality is it's purple now. And the Democrats, right now the Democrats are leading in the polling for the governor's race. I think Rick will win. I think Rick will keep Georgia red. And I also made the case. I said, listen, by y'all coming out and voting for Rick, we're going to help Jon Ossoff get a job in the private sector. Jon Ossoff is the very liberal Democrat who represents Georgia. He may be the senator. who is most at a step with the values of his state because he's a very liberal Democrat. Georgia's not a very liberal state. But he's got a ton of money and he's right now leading in the polls a lot. And I said, listen, if you want to win the Senate seat here in Georgia, the best way to do it. is have a gubernatorial candidate who's running an incredible campaign, who's mobilizing voters across the state, who, by the way, I mean, Rick has put massive millions and millions of dollars in the campaign, so he's funding it himself. And if you end up with a gubernatorial candidate at the top of the race who's turning out a ton of voters, that's how you have a chance to win the Senate race also. And I got to say I'm gratified. The voters of Georgia agreed, and we had a big, big win in Georgia tonight. There are moments in life that divide everything into before and after. Walking into the Garden of Gassimony is one of them. Standing at the Jim Jordan River where Jesus was baptized is another. Watching the sun rise over Jerusalem, gold light spilling across the stones that have witnessed the entire story of faith is something you never forget. Israel isn't a destination. It's a revelation where every site you've studied.

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Nobody in the Senate, nobody in the Congress has the details of what the agreement is. So I have- By the way, there is some trust and verify here for the Senate, for you that don't understand this. To lift the sanctions, you guys are going to know exactly what's in there and you have to agree to it. Am I right? Isn't that how this works? Look, it depends. The way the sanction laws are written, the president has quite a bit of discretion. I hope and believe this deal will come before the Congress and we'll know the specifics of it, and we're going to know them in time. But this is, you know, we're hours into this. This is very early. Let me talk about different elements that may or may not be in the deal. One of the elements that has been widely reported is that Iran is going to get $300 billion. in order to rebuild Iran. And those are going to come from frozen funds, from other sources. It's not clear where that's going to come from. I've got to say, I very much hope that is not true. If somehow we are flowing $300 billion to Iran, I think that is an incredibly foolish idea. Yeah, I agree with you, by the way. That's no different than the pallets of cash and appeasement in many people's eyes. Actually, it is different. Obama flew $1.7 billion in cash into Iran. Joe Biden flowed $100 billion into Iran during his four years. if, and I do not know that this is right, but if we are sending $300 billion, $3.X what Biden sent, I think that is utterly indefensible. So I am hoping that is not true. I have no confirmation. It's true. Iran is saying it's true, but I don't trust them. So that would be an enormous mistake. And listen, it is universally reported. This is a deal that has been negotiated by JD Vance. He has been the point person on negotiating this deal. He is now doing the talk show circuit, defending the deal. But we don't know what the specifics are. I got to say, if the decision is, let's give. Actually, here, I want to share something. So Chris Ruddy. Chris Ruddy is something, someone you and I both know well. Yeah. He is the owner of Newsmax. Chris Rottie wrote a very important op-ed on Newsmax, and I want to share some of it. The title of it is, say no to $300 billion Iran Reconstruction Fund. And here's what Chris wrote. President Trump was right to call reports of a $300 billion reconstruction fund for Iran, quote, fake news. He should keep calling them that until the idea is dead. buried and impossible to revive under another name. Vice President JD Vance has sought to reassure skeptics about the plan. Quote, the Iranians are not receiving any cash and no funds are being released for simply signing a deal or attending a meeting. The vice president said this past weekend. JD Vance then said the economic benefits would flow only if Tehran meets its obligations under a future agreement. That is better than a blank check.

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But it suggests a $300 billion check is still in the works and part of the memorandum of understandings that starts a 60-day ceasefire. Here's the central question. Why should Iran receive access? to any reconstruction fund, let alone one with $300 billion. That's a third of a trillion dollars. Yeah. The floated proposal makes no sense. Worse, it is dangerous. And Ruddy continues. It would reward a maniacal regime not for reforming, not for compensating its victims, and not for abandoning terror as an instrument of statecraft. It would reward Iran for surviving a war it provoked through decades of nuclear blackmail, proxy violence, and regional aggression. Let's put this in perspective. For more than 40 years, Iran's rulers have obsessed over acquiring the capability to destroy Israel, threaten America, and dominate the Middle East. They call the United States the quote, Great Satan. They burned through tens of billions of dollars and effectively checked out of the civilized community of nations in pursuit of their dream, nuclear weapons. They have repeatedly stated their aim publicly and loudly, quote, to wipe Israel off the map. In the interim of that goal, Tehran has funded mayhem across the region. Hezbollah. so clearly backed by Iran and has been part of their negotiations, has long terrorized northern Israel. For 40 years, Hezbollah has fired tens of thousands of rockets into Israel, costing billions in damage, thousands and casualties, and hundreds of deaths. The Houthis, another proxy of Tehran, have fired missiles at Israel and disrupted international shipping for years. They have attacked U.S. naval ships with drones and missiles. no less than 400 times. This is not a misunderstood regime looking for an off-ramp. It's a revolutionary regime that made violence its business model. Even the assassination of President Trump remains a priority business item. So Chris's op-ed, and it goes on, it's a lengthy op-ed, so I'm not going to read the rest of it. But it makes the powerful case. I very much hope the reports that $300 billion are going to flow to Iran. I hope those are false. And I don't know that they're true. I have no basis to believe they're true. But I've got to say, sending $300 billion to theocratic lunatics who want to murder us is not a good idea. I am very much hoping that is Iranian misinformation and that is not part of the deal. And I want you to listen to President Trump discussing where things stand at the G7. Here, get a listen. It's a very important document. And unlike Obama, who could have destroyed the Middle East with a horrible...

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JCPOA. It is the worst agreement. That was a road to a nuclear weapon. Mine is a wall against a nuclear weapon. I mean, I see these people there, but we already had one. He paid a fortune for it. We pay nothing. We don't pay. There was some statement, we're going to spend $300 billion. No. We're allowed to go and invest if we wanted to someday in the future. We have no obligation whatsoever. It could be that Iran will turn out to be successful when they have oil. But if we left a week ago. Just left before the last two attacks. It would have taken them 20 years to rebuild Iraq. So, but I'll go over the document with the media in a couple of days. Now, the president there is saying he'll go over it with the media. He'll be transparent. He's going to read it, but he says that 300 is not there. I'm very comforted. I am glad the president is saying that he is right to say that. It's why, look, I am withholding judgment until I actually see the details. The reporters are all like, oh, don't you want to say something about this? And I'm like, look, until I know what the agreement is, I'm not going to comment without basis. We're saying the reporting. What I can say without equivocation is that giving $300 billion to Iran is a spectacularly bad idea. I hope and pray that's not what this deal is. I'll be very happy if when the deal, the details become public. It's not giving $300 billion, but I have no hesitancy that giving $300 billion to Iran would be disastrous. And to be clear, they would use that money to build weapons to kill Americans. And they would use that money to give it to Hamas and Hezbollah. Yeah, to fund terrorists that are murdering Americans as I... observed to some of my colleagues in the Senate. I said, look, giving $300 billion to theocratic lunatics who want to murder us is not a good idea. I hope. That's a sound foreign policy, Senator. Let's just be clear. That is a pretty sound foreign policy. I like where we're headed. And by the way, look, I talked to the president just a few days ago, right before this deal was announced. I am really hopeful. Look, one of the dynamics in the Trump administration is there are different camps within the administration that have different views on foreign policy. There are camps of the administration that oppose the Iranian military attack that have wanted to end it from day one, that have been deeply unhappy with the president's decision to go in and take out the Iranian military.

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I don't know the extent to which those voices are prevailing right now because there's an active dispute playing out day by day in the administration. I will say this, though. There are also some Democrats and some of the media are crowing, oh, this is exactly like Obama and the JCPOA. It most certainly is not that. Understand what Donald Trump has done. The decision to launch the military attack against Iran was the single most important decision of the Trump presidency. He has destroyed over 80% of their ballistic missiles, over 80% of their drones. He's destroyed their drone manufacturing capability, their ballistic missile manufacturing capability. He's utterly destroyed their air defenses. Their air force is in rubble on the runways. Their Navy has sunk at the bottom of the ocean. You know how many Iranian naval ships he has sunk? How many? 161. That's a lot. It is the largest naval defeat since World War II. The Iranian military has been destroyed. And by the way, the Ayatollah is dead. Many of the Mullahs are dead. Many of the senior leaders of the IRGC is dead. So under any measure, there are Democrats who are lunaticly... claiming Iran is stronger today than it's ever been. No, no, that they have been bombed back into the Stone Age. Under no measure are they stronger than they've ever been. Now, I don't want to see theocratic Islamists who want to kill us made stronger. So if this deal is giving them $300 billion, that's a mistake. I hope that is not the case. But the sort of cute talking point that this is just like Obama, is absurd and false. The Obama-Iran nuclear deal was designed to inevitably lead to Iran having a nuclear weapon. The president has launched a massive military action designed to prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon. That is massively, massively different. What I'm urging the president, what I'm saying to him is don't give away the victory. I don't believe he's doing so. I hope he's not doing so. I hope his administration is not doing so. But my message is don't. We have defeated their military. Don't suddenly come in with massive buckets of cash to let them rebuild and become a threat to America again. Great point. Final question, and this is something that is going to be in the news, and that was the vote in the Senate on war powers with Iran. It came down to one vote. Thank goodness John Fetterman voted with Republicans as some Republicans defected. Doing the math on this, it just shows you how... tight things are in the Senate. Were you surprised by how close this was or was it what you were going to expect? And John Fetterman, by the way, what a blessing that guy has become. I mean that is a compliment to him where a lot of issues. He does not play politics. He looks at his right and wrong and is America better off. And I think that was one of his votes today as a perfect example of that. Yeah. Listen, John Fetterman has become a friend. I like John.

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I work with him quite a bit. He's got real courage. He is the lone Democrat who will stand up to the crazies on a host of issues. He will stand up, number one, on Israel. He is not part of the pro-Hamas lunatic left, which is much of the Democrat Party. Number two, on border security. He has decided that the policy of open borders and releasing murderers and gangbangers and rapists and child molesters. is a dumb policy. Now, that didn't used to be a radical position. That used to be, in fact, you go back just a few years ago, and whether it was Harry Reid or Chuck Schumer or Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton, every Democrat espoused that position. Today, John Fetterman is almost the only Democrat who will say that. I mean, it's not that he has changed. It's that his party has gone nuts. And I will tell you, the Democrats... They hate John Fetterman for it. They're vicious. They insult and revile him. I consider John a friend. And listen, John still votes 90% with the Democrats. So let's be clear. He is not suddenly a conservative Republican. He just doesn't believe Hamas is better than Israel. He doesn't believe open borders and criminals are better than American citizens. Those are pretty reasonable statements that used to be mainstream and everyone agreed with. And now virtually every other Democrat has abandoned that. Actually, here's a question to ask our listeners. You ought to post on social media. Do you all want John Fetterman to be a guest on verdict? I'd love to ask you. It's funny that you just said that. I was literally going to say, Senator, I think we should have John Fetterman on, and I've never said it live on the air that we should have a guest before you and I talking about it behind the scenes. I think he would be a fabulous guest for verdict. Look, John and I are buddies. I will say you remember last year. He decided he was going to go down to Marilago and meet with Trump. And the left lost their mind and said, oh my God, why would you talk to the president? What kind of lunatic are you? And John, he's got a good sense of humor. It's a very dry sense of humor. And he came back and said, well, I'm going to ask him to make me the Pope of Greenland. which I thought was really funny. And I actually, like, used AI. I found a meme and sent out a meme of John Fetterman as the Pope in, like, papal robes in Greenland and, like, tweeted it out, and I sent it to John, and we were cracking up laughing about it because I thought that was really funny. But, look. He's shown real courage. The fact that he is so alone in the Democrat Party really illustrates how radicalized they become. Yeah, it's a great point. We're going to keep you update on this. Obviously, the deal with Iran. Probably on Friday morning show, we'll have a lot more details of what is in this deal. So don't forget, download Verdict with Ted Cruz, wherever you get your podcast so you don't miss an episode. You can also watch us on YouTube. And you can listen to the show, The Weekend version, as well, on radio stations.

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all over the country. And we'll see you back here, Friday morning. Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand? We're not boring. A lot of news is boring. And tedious. And depressing. And makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth. And help you figure out this crazy modern world. How about something about a comedic tone? We have a winner. Listen to Armstrong and Getty on the I Heart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What God started in my life, he's going to finish. The Joel Osteen Daily Podcasts. Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life. What was meant for my harm, Lord, I want to thank you right now. You're turning to my advantage. Your daily source of hope and encouragement. Your second wind is on its way. God is about to breathe on your life in a new way. Listen to the Joel Osteen Daily podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, and wherever you get your favorite podcasts.