5/20/26 - Mark Levin: The Left has reached a disgusting new low

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Thank you. Thank you. America, Mark Levin, here. Our number, 87381-3811, 877-381-3811. I'll tell you what, this guy Graham Platner in Maine, he is a real sick SOB. And I don't see a lot of Democrats coming out against him. I mean, sick in every respect. Our friends at the Washington Free Beacon. They've gathered additional information about him. Graham Platner smeared the late American sniper Chris Kyle. Remember him in his great book and his wife in a 2024 podcast interview suggesting that Kyle shot innocent civilians in Iraq to inflate his numbers. I don't think we have that audio, do we, Rich? Let's go ahead and play that. I didn't know who these guys were. I left that deployment and continued on with my life, did a few more deployments, book in the Marine Corps and the Army. It wasn't until somebody told me to read Chris Kyle's book. His stories about how many people he was shooting certainly tracked with the behavior I witnessed and people I knew witnessed down at the Gov Center, which is it's relatively easy to get high numbers like that if you're a little less discriminating. your fire than say a more professional unit would be. So I, uh, that's when I kind of learned about task unit bruiser, about Chris Kyle. And then it wasn't until many years later, uh, that if someone recommended, uh, like Jacko's podcaster book to me and I put that together and was like, you've got to be kidding me. I almost felt like there was like a, like a weird practical joke being played on me by the war that like all these years later, I'm like having to like, People are telling me like, oh, that's enough. You know, this guy, when you listen to him, when you listen to Joe Kent, something's not right. Now, I'm not comparing them point for point, but something's not right with Joe Kent. Something's not right with this guy. This guy is a real sleazeball. Basically, he's saying that the late hero, Chris Kyle, he's suggesting that he shot innocent civilians to inflate his kill numbers. And as the Washington Free Beacon points out, he also bristled at the fact that Kyle and members of his platoon were described as heroes, calling it a weird practical joke. So he's trashing a real hero who's not alive anymore. Chris Kyle, he may recall him in his book again and his wife. And he does it, of course, after he's passed away. It's just grotesque.

Now, you don't hear Democrats withdrawing from supporting him because it's power at any price. Again, to understand the Democrat Party, you just have to understand that. But there's more, more in addition to his SS, effectively SS tattoo on his chest that he had throughout his adulthood and still has. Now he's a proud communist. Graham Platner's deleted Reddit sparks outrage again as he appears to mock wounded soldier deserve to live. didn't deserve to live. Democratic Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner's deleted Reddit account has continued to cause headaches for his campaign, and he recently resurved his post appearing to mock a U.S. soldier almost killed in combat is stirring up more controversy. So you hear what he said about a sniper. Now, this video never gets all of the Reddit account P. Hustle, which Graham Platner has acknowledged he owned. posted in June 2019, so he's a full-grown adult when he's doing all this. In reference to a viral video from the Helmut Carn of PFC, Ted Daniels, taken during a clash with Taliban fighters in 2012 that ended in Daniels being shot four times year into Purple Heart for his injuries. Dumb FMF didn't deserve to live, says Graham Platner, at least his stupidity and fat A-weezing. are available for all future infantry men to witness and holding contempt. Poor marksmanship on the Taliban's part is the only reason this mouth breather made it home. He managed to make every possible blank decision possible when it comes to small unit combat. Now, why is he doing this? Okay, that's not that long ago, six, seven years ago. The other one was one and a half years ago. The post was deleted but could be found at Main Monitor's database of Graham Platner's deleted Reddit history. Daniel said in later interviews that he purposely moved into the open to draw fire away from other men in his unit, while he expressed embarrassment and said, tactically, it was not a sound thing to do. Ultimately, I put my blank on the line for other guys. He shouldn't have to defend himself.

Graham Platner, U.S. Marine Corps veteran who served four combat duties in Iraq and Afghanistan, is garnering criticism with the lead of posts from a variety of sources, of course. We don't make jokes about brothers and sisters dying. That's something we don't do. That's not normal, said Adam Schwartz, a former Navy SEAL, a Marine veteran running for U.S. Senate as a Republican in Minnesota. He said that about Graham Platner mocking a fellow soldier on social media in open forum. Schwartz acknowledged that Marines can sometimes have a dark sense of humor and give each other a hard time about tactics when speaking privately, but said that Graham Platner's post was something different. We don't post about our brothers getting wounded in action. And he also took issue of Graham Platner's account related to law enforcement, including all police or bastards, he said. He's attacked all cops. He attacks his fellow Marines, the military personnel. There's other stuff that's very grotesque that he's written about, that he's done. I mean, really grotesque. Schwartz said he believes Graham Platner is mental issues. I think it's very dangerous to say, hey, this is how veterans think and talk, because that's just not true. Schwartz said, I served 21 years nine deployments. I don't know one combat veteran who makes comments like cops are bastards. I think he should get some help. I feel bad for him. He deserves help from his time down range, from his PTSD and his mental health issues, but he certainly shouldn't be running for the United States Senate. No, he shouldn't be. Now, Graham Platner's a first-time candidate, of course. He's backed by Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. You should read the comments in context. It's very clear. I'm joking, he said. No, it's not clear at all, because you weren't joking, you jerk. Other post-platiners have been questioned about, including in a recent interview with the New York Times in 2013, which he later deleted, that people concerned about rape should not get so effed up. They wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to. Mm-hmm. This guy sounds like Nick Fuentes Nick Fuentes. Graham Platner's also faced scrutiny from our recent Reddit posts, including one from five years ago. He described himself as a communist and a socialist. Graham Platner's posts have contained alleged homophobic slurs and praise for military tactics used by Hamas. The guy should not be anywhere near the Capitol building, let alone the Senate. And if he's armed, they ought to be figuring out how to deal with that too. This guy's a nut. And yet they want him in the Senate. They got to have the power. They need the seat. They got to get rid of Susan Collins. You know what I'm going to do right now, Mr. Bidoo, he said, this is going to shock everybody. It might even shock Susan Collins. This guy was a Nazi. Now he's a communist. Trashing our troops, trashing our cops. If I lived in Maine, I would vote for Susan Collins. How do you like that, Rich? Would you too? Yeah. And so I'm going to endorse Susan Collins against Graham Platner. That doesn't mean she stands for everything I stand for, obviously not. And I've been here behind this microphone almost a quarter century, and I've never endorsed her. So, oh, there he goes, Irina. No, let me tell you something. This guy has to be stopped. Stopped. There's a point at which you've got to use common sense. Can you imagine this guy in the Senate? Can you imagine his votes? A guy that was a Nazi. Now, he was a communist. Trashing our troops. I mean, men under fire.

Mocking them, talking about stuff he did in public bathrooms. Trashing the cops. No wonder Bernie Sanders loves him. No wonder Elizabeth Warren loves him. So I'll throw a curveball to them. Nobody expected me to do what I just did, but I did it. And I will defend it. And I will defend it. I'll be right back. In 2025, global gold demand blew past 5,000 tons and hit a record $555 billion in value. Many central banks are quietly diversifying away from the dollar, adding hundreds of tons to their reserves. Large institutions poured in the second biggest inflow on record, and barring coin demand hit a 12-year high. Meanwhile, mine supply grew just 1%. New gold can't be printed, and a recent report said it plainly. Gold demand just broke a record, supply can't keep up. For retirees, that means... your traditional stock and bond mix has fewer safe places to hide. That's why I recommend monetary gold, 26 years in business, a plus better business bureau rating, zero unresolved complaints, and every fee disclosed before you spend a cent. Call monetary gold, folks. 877 now gold or visit mark lovesgold.com. Get your free gold and silver guide. Again, 877 now gold or visit mark lovesgold.com. Performance may vary. You should always consult. You know, two Democrats professional. You know, two Democrat congressmen who are Jewish Jared Moskowitz from Florida and Gashheimer, right? From Gossheimer. I'm not trying to play a game. I'm just can't remember. From New Jersey, they put out a statement today. It was very good. This woman running in the 35th Congressional District in Texas, and the Democrat primary talked about putting Zionists, that is Jews, in concentration camps and worse. They said if she becomes a member, that every day they will be filing an expulsion petition. And I'm very pleased they did that, but I want to say something about... Some of our Jewish friends who are Democrats, particularly elected Democrats, particularly these two guys, because they seem to have some level of common sense. You know, unlike Slotnik from Michigan and that jerk from Georgia, the senator there, they're all in. They're hardcore left. Elissa Slotkin pretends. I was CIA. She was an interpreter. I was CIA. Anyway, your party. is a huge problem. It's bigger than this one primary candidate. It's much bigger. And when you play the game of, well, the Republicans do it too, you're making excuses. How many days, America, how many hours have I been behind this microphone dealing with the Jew haters, the anti-Semites, the biggest generally, who used to be? in conservative media, who are podcasters, who used to be Republicans, now they're not Republicans, now God knows what they're. In other words, we try to police, if you will, privately, not with government, who it is that should be in our party and who shouldn't. This idea that we'll accept anybody is ridiculous. We're not going to accept Nazis and communists.

We're not going to accept fascists. That's not why we're Republicans. That's not what we believe in. That's not why we're constitutional conservatives. So, of course, we're going to battle them. And they don't have a place in the Republican Party. They're not in the House of Representatives. They're not in the Senate as Republicans. The Democrats do. They have Taliban and Omar. They have Bernie Sanders. They have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. They have others on the squad. The squad's been a... quite substantially extended, expanded. They have candidates in Michigan and Maine, one that just won in New Jersey, others that are running. You have Democrats who are mayors, Patterson, New Jersey, Dearborn, New Jersey. You can go on and on and on, Dearborn Michigan, rather. You can go on and on and on. They are welcome within the Democrat Party. They are not condemned. You've got this guy Hasan Piker, who's a real sleaze ball. And then you have Democrats running to be interviewed by him or running with him as he endorses them for their candidates. We don't do that. You have a Thomas Massie, we push them out. You have a Marjorie, traitor, gangrene, she left because she had to leave. We are much more aware of and active in confronting this. which I call woke Reich R-E-I-C-H because they're not of the so-called right, the conservative right. They're more Reich. They're more neo-fascist, if you will. And we challenge them and we fight them, and our president does too. He's banished them. He's banished them by name. You don't see that with a Chuck Schumer or Hakeem Jeffries. He's sure. They'll talk about this one running in the 35th District of Texas. That's slow-hanging fruitcake right there. But Chuck Schumer embraces Graham Platner. Chuck Schumer wants the vile Hamas supporting Islamist who's running the Democrat primary should he get the nomination. He wants him in the Senate. Hakeem Jeffries never says anything about the bigots in his party. As a matter of fact, in many ways, he's a bigot. So I would say to, I'll call him Josh. And Jared Moskowitz, you need to leave your party if you really want to show an objection with what's taking place. Jews or elected Democrats need to leave that party. I have no respect for Josh Shapiro, none, who plays footsie with the worst Islamists in Philadelphia. And then he plays the game of Well, I like Israel, I just cannot stand Benjamin Netanyahu. We all know that tap dance. We all know that tap dance. These people aren't just about hating Benjamin Netanyahu. One day Benjamin Netanyahu won't be there, but these people will still be chasing Jews and attacking Jews in America, still be burning the American flag. I think they're waiting for Benjamin Netanyahu? I think Iran's been waiting on Benjamin Netanyahu. They've attacked us for 47 years without having anything to do with Israel. So I'm just pointing this out that for Josh and for Jared Moskowitz, I salute you for what you've put out. Now, you've got to really take a principled stance here because your party has left you. Your party has left you. Reagan left the Democrat Party. He said it's left me. Dershowitz has now left the Democrat Party. He says it's left me. If you're really going to show some muscle.

And you both come from districts where he could win Republican seats. Jared Moskowitz may have been gerrymandered out. But Josh has a sort of a marginal district. The fact of the matter is, unless you leave the Democrat Party, which is the party of the Islamists, the Marxists, and yes, the neo-Nazis now, you're stuck. The big gold story right now, folks, is who's buying gold and how fast they're draining the market. In 2025, global gold demand prices hit dozens of new all-time highs. It was central banks, institutions, serious investors, moving out of paper and into physical metal. And in the U.S., demand for coins, bars, and physically back gold has surged. Meanwhile, mine supply grew just 1%. and you can't print gold. For retirees, that matters because stocks and bonds are no longer providing the protection they used to. That's why I work with monetary gold. They've helped over 50,000 clients. They've an A-plus Better Business Bureau rating and disclose every fee up front. To see how physical gold or silver can fit into your savings of retirement strategy, call 877 now gold or go to mark lovesgold.com. Request your free gold and silver guide. No pressure, just information. Call monetary gold right now. 877 now, gold. Or go to mark lovesgold.com. Performance varies. Always consult your financial and tax professional. Mark, but then. The thunder on the right. Call in now, 877-381-381. We're here with our good friend John Katzmatidis, or Katz, as we like to call you, John. And John owns this radio station, WABC, where I got my start, CEO of Red Apple Group. But he also owns a number of grocery stores. And he's well-known throughout New York City. And he's well-liked throughout New York City. You've seen him on Fox. And I wanted to have you on, John, because it's not so easy to run a grocery store, is it? There's a lot involved in it. And the idea that the city government's going to run government-run grocery stores, would you lay this out for us, please? Well, you know, I've been running grocery stores for the last, I guess, 54 years, and it's not so easy. I remember you blink your eyes, and I remember how we used to work 80, 90 hours a week. And we used to go to Hunts Point Market to buy the produce, and to buy specials for our customers. And it is... And then what happens? And you know what's happening with Zohar Zohran Mamdani?

You know, we work, the people in the supermarkets, in the bodegas, in the poorer neighborhoods, they work 70, 80 hours a week. And what Mungami, what the mayor wants to do is he wants to give away some products. And look, supermarkets always gave away products. You know, they used to, I remember those days, they used to be the milk wars. They used to be the egg wars. And the mayor has said that he wants to have low-cost bread, low-cost milk, low-cost, whatever. But he doesn't realize it that when the bodegas and the supermarkets that are in the surrounding area, when they lose the sales and they lose the money, it's the people themselves. that lose the money. When the politicians, when the city owns the stores, you know who loses the money? The taxpayers. It's not, it's that they, the politicians lose zero. Zero. They give away products. They give away eggs. They give away milk. They give away bread. But so I don't, you know, I don't think it's going to have a big difference in the overall community. But, but, you know, it's the people that are working in that community and provide food in that community that are going to be hurt. And it's the poor people that work 80 hours a week are not going to be making a living. And as the politicians own it, guess what? It doesn't affect them. It doesn't affect them. And, you know, they're only going to have five stories. And I've talked. I've met with the mayor. I've talked to him. There's going to be one store in every borough. All right, hold on, hold on, hold on. One store in every borough. Why is he even doing this? It's ridiculous. I think he wants to play the violin to the people he promised it to. There's an old expression in the Greek community, Machia de Cteside. Make sure you have 14 eyes. Now, what happens if people go in there and steal the product, you're not going to arrest them, right? So why should they pay for it? Why should they pay for it? No, that's right. And it's one big mess. uh yeah we want we love new york and we want new york to survive but what i've said this morning i was on maria barbara barto rome yesterday right and uh one with two made and what i said this morning is that you know who's going to suffer if people if the two percent they pay 48 percent of taxes in the city

If the 2% decide to move, guess who's going to suffer? Because that 2%, if you say I'm going to move to the Florida for 186 days a year, I spend $1,000 a day between breakfast, dinner, taxis, uh, uh, uh, ubers, et cetera, et cetera, who's going to get hurt? It's a middle class. The people, the drivers, the taxi cab drivers, the Uber drivers, the busboys, my father was a bus boy, the waiters. They're going to suffer. They're the ones that are going to suffer. And, you know, if the city of New York, if the rating agencies, Moody's, S&P, if they downgrade the bonds. You know who's going to suffer? They're employees. New York State has 200,000 employees. New York City has 300,000 employees. Guess what? There won't be any money to pay them. So it's not as easy as everybody makes it out to me. Somebody has to pay $2. How does a guy who's 35 years old that's never done anything? I mean, your business is complex enough. Now, there's zillions of different types of businesses. He acts like he knows just from an ideological perspective how to run business and capitalism. Tell everybody a little bit about your background. How did you become what you became? Well, you know, my grand pirates came to America in 1913. both my mother's grandfather, a father, and my father's father. And then my father's two brothers came in the 1930s. And my father came in 1949. So, you know, all the immigrants that came to America, they were ready to work 70, 80 hours a week. And they worked their chair off. And what I say is, you know why there's no Greek diners left to Mark? Why? Because the fathers worked 80 hours a week, sent their parents. uh to uh to they sent their sons and their daughters to become lawyers and accountants just like the jews just like the jewish community you're right they worked 80 hours a week and they sent their their kids to go to uh you know became lawyers and accountants and investment bankers And that's why there's nobody left to run the kosher gullies. There's nobody left to run the Greek diners. You know, there used to be open 24 hours a day. Yeah, they were great. Great. But, you know, as the world turns, and it's turning. Now, what happens is where people have to realize is that the Democratic Socialists has created actors.

Don't forget who Zohran Mamdani's mother is. There's a big movie producer. He knows how to smile. He knows how to induce the, to say hello to people. Omar, our congresswoman from, where is the, Minnesota. And don't forget, she was reading. No, no education. They are trained actors and the same thing with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. And what happens is... They are paid, they are trained, and they perform a task. And the money comes in. Don't forget, they go out and pick it at 7 o'clock in the morning. Where did those signs come from? Somebody pay for them. And I believe it's not necessarily the George Soros of the world and not necessarily who's the other guy in China. I believe this is as far as singing or something. There's foreign money. Foreign government money is being funneled through them. And America is under attack. And the American people have to realize that America is under attack. And we have to, we have to fix that because, you know, you know why I'm working 77 hours a week? You know, I say because my kids and my grandkids, I want to leave them a better world. And that's what I'm working. It's not about the money. It's about leaving them a better world, and that's what I worry about. And you're worried about the kids. And so am I. Because look how fast we've spiraled into this. This sort of Marxist, Islamist, woke, Reich, R-E-I-C-H, you know who I mean. These people... You don't even recognize our country with their doctrines, their ideologies, their attacks on the United States, their attacks on the Constitution. And New York's become ground zero for some reason, hasn't it? It has become ground zero. It was the perfect storm. President Trump told me, you've got to get Curtis out of the race. He says to me, he got Eric Adams out of the race. Uh, he, uh, uh, uh, and he says, I'd rather have a Democrat, even though, uh, Andrew Cuomo, then have a socialist or communist. And we, we, we found President Trump. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's.

And it was a perfect storm. It was a perfect storm. And what should have happened now? I think our U.S. attorney in New York, Jay Clayton, is excellent. And he's not waiting for the state attorney generals. to put people away. If they had a violation that touches a federal crime, Jay Clayton uses the federal forces to come in and do whatever he has to do. Now, he's not going to do. No, he's not going to do anything. And check some balances on, uh, from the state. I think Bruce Blakeman, when I was with him last night, I think he has a good shot. If people realize, people have to realize, what the heck is going on? I got to bring him back. You know? Yeah. Now you're right. You know, he has a good shot and it is what it is. Mark, keep yelling out there, keep talking out there, keep telling people the truth, and that's what we're doing. We're telling the people the truth, and we want to get to a point where people realize, you know, 92% of the American people believe water crunchite. Right now, nobody believes anybody. That's true, yeah. Well, I want the country to know something. I'm on your station because of you, right? Yes, yes. And I started out in your station. And get the truth out. Get the truth out. Thank you so much. And you too. Thank you. You got a great lineup on this station. We'll keep fighting. And keep fighting in that city. You know, we're not all from New York, but we love New York. We're going to challenge the BBC market. We're going to go do, I talk to the president about it. We're going to do Europe. And... What does that mean? The BBC is not telling, well, we're going to go into Europe and try to, because the voice of America and the BBC does not tell the European people the truth. Are we going to have to use private stations? How are you going to do that? No, we're working it out right now. And, well, one of these days, you know, five years ago, we said we're going to sit down for dinner. We never did. Are you ever in flood? Well, we'll do this off the year. We'll do it. We'll do it. I'll make sure of it. I don't go anywhere. You know that. Yes. Mark Levin, thank you for everything you do. And God bless you and God bless America. Let's get the truth of that. Thank you so much. You too, John. Take care of yourself. It's a good man. You can see how upset he is about what's going on in New York. And I don't blame them because it's going on in New York and Chicago and L.A. in Philadelphia and Detroit. It's going on in Boston and Pittsburgh. Kansas City and Cleveland and Cincinnati. Dallas, Plano for crying out loud, Houston, Austin. We're in every one of these markets.

It's crazy. Look at California. What's happened to California? You know, 35, 40 years ago, the Republicans owned that state. And we're doing everything we can to help. We're going to help Bruce Blakeman and Hilton and pick some of these other candidates. And I'm quite serious about Maine. Some of you may be upset. I can't control that. If you listen to my logic, I think you will agree with me. Graham Platner. Hates the military. Trashes his own services that he was in, Marines and Army. Walks around, not just with a Nazi tattoo on his chest, but SS Camp Guard tattoo on his chest. And he was a fully grown adult when he chose to do that. And he's trashing the American sniper. You remember him? Who's now passed? basically insinuating he killed citizens to get his numbers up how disgusting he trashed another man who had a you know one of the helmet cameras who took four bullets trashed him mocked him he's done things in his personal life that he used to brag about that literally perverted horribly disgusting and now he claims to be a communist which is why Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are attracted to him. And so, yes, I will support Susan Collins. I don't know her. I've never talked to her. And I don't care. And I don't care. I cannot pretend. that it's okay to elect open communists and Nazis to the United States Senate. And I'm not going to sit here and just accept it. I'll be right back. When we talk about Israel, we're not just talking about a place. We're talking about a people connected to a promise, a promise made by God, one he has never broken, and one that continues even today. Because God's character doesn't change. What he begins, he sustains. What he promises, he fulfills. Right now in Israel, families run to shelters as siren sound. This isn't just a crisis. It's a call to respond. For Christians, caring for the Jewish people isn't rooted in politics. It's rooted in trust in God who keeps his word. So we don't stay distant. We step in with prayer and... practical help. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is on the ground, bringing food, caring for the vulnerable, and reminding people they're not alone. This is what it looks like to align our hearts with gods, to pray, to show up, to care. Join the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews and praying for the peace of Jerusalem and for the people who need it right now. Visit Levin forthefellowship.org. That's L-E-V-I-N for the Fellowship.org.

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Hello, America. Mark Levin here, our number 877381-381-877-381-3811. But we're going to spend a little time with Dr. Gad Sade. He's read an incredible book. Suicidal empathy, dying to be kind. And I finally finished it, Professor. That's why I waited a few weeks until I brought you on here. What a book. And I read a lot of books, a lot of books on philosophy, a lot of books by smart people. This is a really good book. And you can get it right now, ladies and gentlemen, Amazon.com. It's on all my social platforms, Mr. Producer, suicidal empathy. So first of all, welcome. And if you don't mind, tell my audience a little bit about yourself. Sure. Well, first, thank you so much for having me on, Mark. I've been a fan, so it's a real pleasure talking to you. So I was born in... Thank you. I was born in Lebanon in the 60s. We were part of the... last remaining group of dwindling Jewish community. My parents apparently were not keen on reading the writing on the wall. Much of my extended family had already left Lebanon in the 60s, but then the civil war broke out in the mid-70s. It became rather impossible to be Jewish. So luckily, we were able to escape after the first year of the Civil War. My parents, on one of their return trips to Lebanon, because we still had business interests in Lebanon, they were kidnapped by Fatah, by Abu Nidal's group. Some bad things happened to them, but luckily we were able to free them, and no one from my family has returned to Lebanon since 1980. Yeah, actually, we knew a gentleman from... Lebanon 2 and his father I can't give you all the names that my wife could but she's not here was a very famous surgeon and tell people briefly that civil war that took place what was that civil war who was fighting whom I know but I want the whole country to know Well, I mean, everybody was fighting everybody else. There were a whole bunch of Christian factions. There were some, you know, of course, Islamic factions. There was the PLO that was in there fighting. But the general story is that you had some, you know, pretty nasty battles between the phalanjists, the sort of the Christian militia and several Islamic groups, including the PLO. Now, if you were Lebanese Jewish, you really had quite a bit of difficulties because in Lebanon mark, you may or may not know this. We used to carry these internal ID cards that are equivalent to a passport, but that you would show your paper, you know, if the police stopped you. And the number one most conspicuous thing that would be shown, it wasn't your height or your eye color or your weight. It was what your religion was, because in Lebanon...

As in much of the Middle East, everything is viewed through the prism of, you know, which religion you belong to. So you're a Maronite, you're a Shi'i, you're a Sunni. Now, if you are Jewish in Arabic, they wouldn't even call you Jewish, which Arabic, it's Yehudi. They would say, Israeli means Israelite. So if you were stopped in a roadblock mark by any of the myriad of militia, and they asked you for your paperwork, Well, you were going to likely end up with a bullet in your head. So it was a very, very difficult situation to be. Well, luckily you and your family have survived. And tell us, suicidal empathy. This, as I went through it, I thought, you've been given this thought for a long time, haven't you? Indeed, indeed. So this book is really, if you like, part of a... two book unfolding narratives. So in my 2020 book and Parasitic Mind, I basically argued that if you wish to hijack someone's ability to engage in critical reasoning, you have to parasitize their cognitive system, their actual thought processes. But in order for me to fully hijack your ability to think, I also have to parasitize your affective system, your emotional system. If I can hijack both your cognitive and affective system, I own you. And so what suicidal empathy does... Because it basically argues that it's not an attack on empathy, right? Empathy is a evolutionarily relevant virtue to possess. For you and I, Mark, to have a good interaction. I need to put myself in your mind and vice versa. That's called theory of mind or cognitive empathy. So there's nothing wrong with well-calibrated empathy. The problem is, like Aristotle explained to us several thousand years ago, Too little of something is not good. Too much of something is not good. And that exact insight applies to empathy. If I have no empathy, I'm a psychopath. If my empathy hyperfires in the wrong situation toward the wrong targets, you end up with suicidal empathy. All right. Let me step back a little bit just for the audience. Empathy. Virtue. There's a difference, right? I mean, empathy could be construed as one of the laudable virtues. I mean, there are, you know, academic, granular, you know, debates as to what each of these are defined as. For example, early in the book, I explained that I will be using the terms compassion, empathy, and sympathy in an interchangeable manner. There are very fine-tuned differences between these, but for our purposes, we could imagine that empathy is indeed a virtue. Because we've had people write about including the founders about virtue a lot, not really about empathy. And there is a difference, I think. But I think you're right. There's an element of one and the other. Now, this issue of empathy, is that akin to being a knee-jerk liberal?

Well, I mean, yes, in the sense that the Democrats in general and, of course, the more progressive elements of the Democrats define themselves as the party of empathy, right? As you know, Barack Obama was referred to colloquially as the empathizer in chief. And so the fact that I point to many of these parasitic ideas coming from the left, is not to argue that people could not be wrongheaded on the right, but the specific manifestation of the devastating domestic and foreign policies that we're seeing that I argue stem from suicidal empathy by definition come from the left since they are the caring and compassionate ones, in quotes. Is this sort of... I'm just circling around, like I went through you, but is this sort of wokeism, would we call this? Well, so wokeism is the first step to becoming suicidally empathetics. And let me give a specific example. So cultural relativism is a parasitic idea that I discussed in my earlier book. So cultural relativism basically says, who are you to judge the cultural beliefs and practices of another culture? If they wish to engage in, female genital mutilation of five-year-old girls, shut up, racist. Well, if I internalize that... argument, then I'm rendered impotent when it comes to immigration policies. I have to accept open border policies because I don't have the right to judge the cultural practices of another. So if we're going to let in hundreds of thousands and millions of people that come from societies that are perfectly incongruent with our values, I can't stop them because then that would be bigoted and non-empathetic. Let's stop right there. That is very important. And I'm going to circle back to that in a moment because you're talking about immigration. I want to get back to Islam and so forth and so on. But that's a very, very important point that you've raised because what you're saying is if you give up the moral issue, if you believe it's a moral issue, then you kind of lose the cultural issue, right? Exactly, right? I mean, look, people have lost the ability to proudly defend certain values and a moral code that the average three-year-old should be able to understand, right? Precisely because we have inculcated first our students who then become our leaders with all of this relativistic morality, right? That's why, by the way, I refer to postmodernism. as the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas. Because if there is no cap, right, if there's no truth with a capital T, if everything is restrained by my own personal biases, then up is down, left is right, men are women, anything goes. It's nihilistic.

Now, that's right, and that's a very good point. All right, so give us some examples, and you do in the book, and you do it beautifully, of suicidal empathy. Real tangible examples in society today. Okay, well, let me give you some of the most hallucinatory ones, but there are, as you said, many, many in the book. Okay, so a Norwegian man, a white Norwegian man is raped by a Somali immigrant in Norway. And now, because the Scandinavians are very kind and empathetic, they don't believe in long, harsh prison sentences. After the rapist serves a few years in prison, he was going to be deported back to Mogadishu. Well, his rape victim faced an existential conundrum because he felt so guilty that his sodomizer was not going to be able to fully flourish. in Mogadishu. Well, I'm here to tell you, Mark, as an evolutionary psychologist, that our emotional system did not evolve to empathize with our rapists. So that'll be one example. Let me give you a couple of others. The British authorities, as I'm sure many of your listeners know by now, turned the blind eye to the systematic industrial scale level rape of 250,000 plus white British girls, because most of the rapists were, quote, Asians, which is a euphemism for British Pakistani Muslim men. Because in their broken moral calculus, it was more important to refrain from spreading Islamophobia than to protect our children. That's what suicidal empathy looks like. That is so damnable what they did there. It's so unbelievable. We're going to take a little break, and I want to come back, and I want to continue to pursue this. You're fascinating to me. That's why I want to do the whole hour with you, and your book is very fascinating. I want to encourage you to get it, folks. Suicidal Empathy. Go right now to Amazon.com. They'll deliver it tomorrow or the next day or any major bookstore. It's a very hot book right now, and I can tell you why, because it's damn good. We'll be right back.

Welcome back, America. We're here with Dr. Gad Saad in his fantastic new book, Suicidal Empathy, Dying to Be Kind. You can get at Amazon.com, any major bookstore. You can get it on my social sites. And I encourage you to grab a copy because it answers a lot of questions. So let me ask you this, empathy. Is empathy sort of a cognitive thing or is it intuitive thing? What is it? Actually, there's what's called cognitive empathy and affective empathy. So the difference basically can be captured by the colloquialisms. I understand your pain and I feel your pain. One is cognitive, one is affective. By the way, empathy, to my earlier point, is truly an important... you know, trait to possess as long as it is well calibrated. So, for example, the way that we diagnose children as being autistic, there is no blood tests, right? There is no urine test. The way you diagnose them is you give them a theory of mind test, which they fail. So again, this book is not an attack on adaptive empathy. It is a critique of suicidal empathy, which is very different. Would it be fair to call it the politicization of empathy? Indeed, indeed. Although the reason why I wouldn't say it's only a political feature, because some people have been so brainwashed that they actually believe and internalize their swim in the infinity pool of suicidal empathy. So let me give you an example. I have a physical therapist who was working on my knee, and she asked me, oh, what's your latest book going to be about? This was a couple of months ago. And so I explained suicidal empathy, and she said, well, give me an example. So then I gave her the example of open border policies. And she looked at me, you know, very with a lot of incredulity and said, What do you mean? You don't think that it would be nice and kind for anybody who wants to come here to Canada to be given a chance? I said, no, I don't because life involves trade-off. In an infinite utopia where we have infinite resources, we might be able to do it, but the reality is we can't do that. She simply couldn't understand that I would be so callous and cold-hearted. So in her case, she wasn't being political. She had fully... swallowed the pill of suicidal empathy. Do you think that's what Marxism taps into? A hundred percent. As a matter of fact, I've got a whole chapter. That's why I'm talking about it. Yeah. Exactly. By the way, for your listening, listeners, I'd call it govern me harder, daddy, right? Because.

What socialism and Marxism and communism, what they all do is they appeal, well, of course, to envy, but also to empathy, right? In their worldview, it is inherently unfair that Mark Levin might be more successful than some other poor schmach. Therefore, we're going to come, the overlord, and create equality amongst all of us so that we can live in a kinder, more empathetic unicornia. I want to quote a fantastic evolutionary biologist by the name of E.O. Wilson, he recently passed away. He was a Harvard entomologist. He studied social ants. When he was asked, Professor Wilson, what are your views on communism? He said, great idea, wrong species. Ants are communistic because they have a reproductive queen, and then all of the other worker and warrior ants are interchangeable cogs in the wheel. Human beings, though, are not ants. Some of us are taller, shorter, harder working, less harder working. So to impose a socio-political economic system that is contrary to our innate human nature is always going to fail, as it has for the past hundred years. And yet all the evidence of the failure and honestly the inhumanity, which is massive, this still has a pool on so many people, right? What's that? Because it's based on kindergarten infantile logic, right? I mean, sharing is caring is a beautiful model when I am socializing a five-year-old to not be monopolistic over his toys. It's important to share. We are a cooperative species. But then we grow out of our infantile thinking. This is why, as you know, Mark, most people who start off being sort of leading heart liberals. as they get slapped by reality when 50% of their income is confiscated through taxes when they get their first paycheck, suddenly they wake up and are no longer stuck in kindergarten logic. So we all start with this silly utopia, but then reality has a way of autocorrecting our stupidity. Now, the reason you talk about calibrated empathy, in other words, You sit down and you think about it, cognitively, as you said. You try and figure out if it makes sense. It doesn't make sense. So your emotions don't overtake you, right? And it seems to me the left that's the other way around if it's that way at all. It's mostly emotional. Don't answer that yet. Don't answer that yet. We're going to take a break. It's okay. It's okay. We're going to take a break. I want you to come back. Take your time. We've got plenty of time. This book really... Smart books fascinate me, and I like to talk about them a lot. And one other thing I want to ask you, too, is this. What kind of reaction are you getting from this book? Among conservatives, I think they really appreciate this, but I'm curious about the left, too. So I'm going to follow up with that when we come back to. We're talking to Gadsad, Professor, really, really good guy. We'll be right back.

Mark Levitt, the George S. Patton of Talk Radio. Call him at 877381-3811. That's 877381-3811. We're here with God Sod in his great new book, Suicidal Empathy. First of all, let me ask you this. What has been the response of the left? I mean, I can kind of predict it, but I'm curious to know the reality of it. Well, it's exactly as you would expect. They've completely misconstrued the central thesis of the book. They've argued that, you know, here comes the Jewish proprietor of Elon Musk, who's got the ear of Donald Elon Musk. He's trying to usher a dark world where empathy is eradicated. And of course, as I mentioned at the start of our chat, Mark, I'm doing no such thing. I fully concede that empathy... is astoundingly important to oil our social nature. That doesn't mean, though, that it can't misfire. So they have been very, very aggressively against it. And it upsets me because your listeners are likely the ones who are going to nod their heads and say, yes, beautiful, I agree. But I'm also trying to reach the other folks who do suffer from suicidal empathy, and yet they doggedly refuse to hear the message. But isn't that part of the problem, they're ideological, and they're not open to the thought. And isn't that also part of the problem, as you write about with, and you've written about it before, Islamism and Americanism and the twoisms, that they're just incongruent? Indeed, look, by the way, you may perhaps think I'm being too harsh in saying this. I don't like when people use the ism suffix because I understand the reason why people do it because it seems somewhat less aggressive to frontally attack a religion. So if I say that I'm attacking Islamism but not Islam, then somehow I can be invited to the cool kids party. But there is no Islamism, right? Islamism is an inherent foundational feature of Islam. Most of Islam is political Islam, hence Islamism. So the idea that we should put a bunch of qualifiers, militant, radicalized, extremist, Islamism, that's a lot of words to just spell Islam. I don't disagree with that. You never hear me call it radical, extreme or something of that sort. I know they call themselves Islamists, do they not? The Islamists? I mean, some do, but Recep Tayyip Erdogan, right, the president of Turkey, who one would argue understands Islam, himself said there is no moderate Islam, there is no radical Islam, there's just Islam. Many, many Islamic theorists have said that. Sure, some will say they're Islamists, but they're just trying to pull the wool over the gullible Westerners' eye. There's only Islam, nothing else. Sounds like Marx was socialist.

said they're no good. They're like halfway communists. So, but let's get back to this issue of the incompatibility of the two. Explain that. Look, let's take one example, okay? Under Sharia law, the penalty for a crime is dependent on the identity of the perpetrator and the victim. I mean, that's literally codified. So if a Jewish man kills a Muslim man, it's a very different penalty than if a Muslim man kills a Jewish man. So just that, imagine you compare that Sharia law principle to American jurisprudence where you have Lady Justice that is blindfolded, meaning she is blind to such markers. So you couldn't come up with a ideology that is more incongruent with, you know, American foundational principles. And yet you have all sorts of idiots, both in politics and in academia, saying, no, no, no, Islam and America could be fully compatible with each other. Nothing could be further from the truth. Now, that doesn't mean, Mark, that there aren't millions of... perfectly lovely Muslims and I would know that better than most since Arabic is my mother tongue since I come from Lebanon I play soccer with Muslims I go out for the restaurants with Muslims that doesn't mean that when Islam enters a society and becomes dominant we can't exactly predict what's going to happen namely the end of personal liberties It's very important for people to understand. Don't we see that playing out on our streets right now, listening to these e-moms? I mean, I play clips of these guys, and they're endless. You know, you go to memory.org and these other places who transcribe these things into our language, but a lot of them are hearing they speak our language. Aren't they saying this? Totally ultimately. Mark, I can walk. 15 minutes from where I'm currently speaking to you from, where every Friday in the mosque, this is not a quote extremist mosque, it's just standard Friday prayers where you're saying kill the infidel and, you know, the world will not end until every tree says there's a Jew hiding behind me. I mean, it's just the regular... everyday canonical nonsense. So they say it openly. They're brazen about it. And yet we come up with endless suicidally empathetic justifications for why they should be allowed to say what they say. It's insane. Well, let me get to that point. Let's get to the suicide part. You're very concerned about the ability of the civil society, sort of the Lockean society, to survive, aren't you? I'm infinitely afraid because, look, the reason why some of the staunchest, most vociferous defenders of the West in general and the United States, in particular, are immigrants, such as myself or Ayan Hersey Ali or Bridget Gabriel, is precisely because we have sampled from the wide buffet of societies that exist. And then we come to the United States to tell you, hey,

Don't presume that what you have is the default value of how societies are organized. You're an anomaly. But most Americans wake up and are born into a world where they think that's just how it always is. It isn't. And so I escaped that stuff in the 70s. I don't want to see it in Dearborn and in Patterson, New Jersey, and in Minnesota, because close your eyes and open your eyes, we will live in a very different world, or certainly our children will. Is it too late? That's a great question. I'm going to give you an answer. I'm not trying to be core or equivocate. I'm going to give you both. I'm going to give you a pessimistic and an optimistic answer. Let's start with the optimistic. I would say that we could be optimistic because there are a set of autocorrective interventions that we could implement to solve the problem. In other words, it's not an intractable problem with no viable solution. That's the optimistic part. Here comes the pessimistic part. I see no evidence that the West... has the testicular fortitude to implement those autocorrective procedures. So I could have the cure for cancer for you, but if you refuse to take it, then you are going to die from cancer. So I pray to God that people will wake up. I'm doing my small part. Please wake up. Please don't stay silent. You have to have the... the ability to extrapolate into the future. You're not living today under Islamic law, but allow these patterns to fester for another 50, 100 years. You will have deer born everywhere. It's also, though, part of the problem is the people, the disconnect between the people and the ruling class. And by that, I mean, you've got a lot of unelected radical left-wing judges at the lowest level. The Democrats are talking about packing the Supreme Court. They're becoming more and more reliant on this population of immigrants. They're actually supporting them for office and so forth and so on. It's kind of difficult for a society to survive, or at least. to do well when you have one big political party that seems to represent this, no? I, 100% correct. I agree, but I would add... another obstacle to the ability for us to solve the problem, and that is that the architecture of the human mind only wakes up to a problem when the monster, forgive me, for saying, bites you in the behind, right? So take, for example, many of the high-profile Jewish billionaires who suddenly woke up about the vile anti-Semitism spreading on campuses, but they only woke up, Mark,

when it affected their favorite alma mater. They only woke up when their son could no longer go to his engineering class at UCLA. But while some of us stood on top of the mountains screaming for the past 25 years, they were too busy with their lives to care. That's the problem, is that most people are too busy in their little worlds to worry about the monster out there. It's far away. It won't come here. While I'm here to tell you, it will come for you. Mm-hmm. We're going to take a little break. We have one short segment left. I want to encourage you folks. I'm talking to doctor. By the way, are you still in Canada? Well, I just announced on the Joe Rogan show that I've accepted a distinguished professorship at the Declaration of Independence Center for the Study of American Freedom at the University of Mississippi. Oh, very cool. In the next two months, the sides are coming to the U.S. You get out of Canada, which is a pretty tough place these days. We get callers from Canada that tell me that it's really hell is broken loose up there if you're Jewish. We're talking to God Sod. I want you to check out his book, which is absolutely fantastic, suicidal empathy. You can get it on Amazon.com. Any major bookstore off our social sites. And we'll be right back. Mark Levin.

I'd only a few minutes left with Gadsot. So you just learn that your book's number one on the New York Times bestseller list. Indeed. Instant number one, New York Times bestseller, both in nonfiction hardcover and in the combined categories. And actually, I was so happy that my family actually recorded it as my publisher called me to announce it to me. And I posted on social media. It's amazing. Isn't that exciting? You work so damn hard on a book. You've been thinking about this book for years. And then the public embraces it. That's a good thing. It's the greatest thing. And I love that you said this because two few professors realize that our job is not only to publish peer-reviewed academic papers, which are going to be read by seven people. And I don't mean to denigrate academia. I love academia. But if we're doing important things, we should be able to cater to the trucker and the corrections officer and the homemaker. So the fact that my book has been so well received brings me such joy, Mark. And it has been. And that phrase will never be forgotten. That phrase will live with you with the rest of time, suicidal empathy. And it's a very, very important book. And the timing of the release of the book, sometimes things just work out. And it just worked out for you. You know, when I wrote my book, Liberty and Tyranny, it came out exactly when the tea party started. It's like, wow. Right. But it's very, very important, this book, Suicidal Empathy. I want to encourage you to go to Amazon.com. You can show up at your steps tomorrow. Any major bookstore, if you're like me, you're a nerd, you hang out of Barnes & Noble or wherever you go. And also, it's the kind of book you want to read and you want to talk about because it really does make you think. But it explains a lot, too. And to be honest with you, I could have spent five more hours with you. I got a lot more questions, a lot more. I think I'd be the kind of student that sits in the back row, you know, takes it all in and then asks you 50 questions. That's what I used to do in law school, you know. Oh, well, it's such a pleasure to talk to you, and I'm truly so honored that you gave me the opportunity. And, hey, invite me any time back, and I'll be there with Bellzone. All right, brother. You take care of yourself, okay? It's been a pleasure. Thank you, so much. Thank you, sir. All right, you take care. Isn't that fascinating, Mr. Producer? There you go, folks. Suicidal empathy explains a lot. It really does, and... You know, there's very few authors I have on that long or very few authors authors I have on twice. We had Buck Sexton on here twice because his book is a brilliant book too. So it's not that we don't do authors. It says that we can't do all the authors. And I like to sort of go through the book to make sure that it's something that might interest you.

I know you, Mr. and Mrs. America, I know this will interest you. And he's been spending a lot of his career in Canada. There's a lot of people who listen to this program in Canada. Canada has fallen apart. They used to have some great prime ministers up in Canada. They really did. Harper was one example. There were others, too. But, you know, you got this Trudeau. Now you got this Carney guy. Really two disasters, absolute disasters. And I think this suicidal empathy defines them perfectly. It really does. And I also think maybe it's a little more than suicidal empathy. I think these people are ideologically stuck. And I know what the professor would say. Well, that's the same thing. You can still be suicidal empathy and be ideologically stuck. And he's right. they're ideologically stuck and for a lot of people there's no getting through to them but you know what you can't get through to everybody if you can get through to a percentage that's pretty good too all right we've got a lot more the power hours next grab your copy of suicidal empathy amazon dot com we'll be back in about five or six minutes we'll be right back Folks, Mark Levin here with a new episode of On the Frontlines, my original podcast series and partnership with the great international fellowship of Christians and Jews. This week's episode, Nations Under God, comes at a remarkable moment. America's 250th anniversary and a decades-long friendship with the state of Israel that remains as vital as ever. Joining me is Yalel Eckstein, the great president and CEO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. as we explore how this alliance was built. From Truman's recognition of Israel to the leaders and moments that shaped the partnership rooted not just in strategy, but in shared faith and values. We'll look at how that bond is endured through the decades, why it still matters in a time of global uncertainty, and what's at stake if the next generation forgets the history and principles behind it. On the front lines, isn't about looking back, it's about understanding what must be carried forward. Find the latest episode of On the Frontlines on the Mark Levin show podcast feed wherever you get your podcast. Subscribe now and join us on the front lines of freedom, faith, and fellowship. He's here. He's here. Now, broadcasting them from the underground command post. Deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker somewhere under the brick and steel of a non-district building, we've once again made contact with our leader, Mark Levin. Hello, America. Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-381-877-3811. Well, when the good guys win one, I want to tell you about it. Because if I don't, who will? Major victory for peace. You're familiar with America First Legal, and it was founded by Stephen Miller. And the lead man there now is Gene Hamilton. He's become a good friend of the family. The general counselor happens to be my wife. Julie. Julie Strausslevin.

a billion dollars in your money from going to the Palestinian Authority, this Abbas, you know, the moderate one, a terrorist. When they are subsidizing the family of terrorists who have died while committing their heinous acts, or paying pensions on behalf of or to the terrorist family, if he lives or she lives. And the worst, the terror act, the more people killed, the more may have created, the bigger the pension they get. And so this law's passed, named after Taylor Force. Taylor Force was a young man in his 20s. He served in our military. He's on a trip to Israel, Jerusalem to be specific. Family were people of faith, Christians. And the terrorist act occurred, and he killed him. He died. Stuart. Stuart Force has been a force for truth, a tremendous man of integrity. His wife, Robbie, suffered terribly as a result of the death of her son. And she died not long ago, absolutely heartbroken.

Absolutely heartbroken from what happened to her son. Nor did she get to see the victory here in the AFL lawsuit against the Biden administration. Now, it continued through the Trump administration, but obviously the Trump administration was receptive to addressing and enforcing the law, which is exactly what happened. exactly what happened terrible so we salute afl and jean and the gang and my wife too if i may point of personal privilege she works very very hard and they all work very very hard over there unsung in what they do and i might add over at landmark legal foundation my alma mater same thing they work very very hard also unsung You don't know the names of the lawyers that work over there, but they're damn good. Same with the lawyers over at AFL. These conservative legal groups are fantastic, ladies and gentlemen. Nobody gets rich working for them. Most people don't get famous working for them. But that said, they're in the trenches and they're fighting, and that's a good thing. So, AFL, we salute you on your Teller Force victory. The settlement came through. It's a big deal. It took a lot of work and a lot of time and a lot of resources. And these cases take years and they cost a lot of money. And that's just the truth. All right. Let's see here. President Trump at the Coast Guard Academy graduation today. Let's hear a little bit of this. Cut three, go. The class of 2026 is graduating at an incredible exciting time for our nation and the Coast Guard in particular. As you enter the office core of the greatest military in the history of the world, our national slinks is back. Our morale is back. We are a confident country again. We have confidence is back. And above all, America is back, bigger and better and stronger than ever before. We have a strong, great, respected country again. We went off course. We went very sadly, off course. For years, Washington, D.C. was run by foolish politicians who thought they could defy the laws of world history, violating every common sense principle for preserving. national power and national security, and they surrendered our industrial capacity to other countries, crippled our energy production, threw open our borders. We had borders. We just, they were open. Think about what he's saying, how the Democrats were sabotaging our country. Purposefully, in my view, how they were sabotaging our country. and they're telling us they're going to do it again, except they're going to shred our Constitution on the way to sabotaging our country. It's a big deal. Go ahead.

People came in totally unchecked and unvetted. You know how many people over four years in the last term? 25 million people. They came in as murderers. They were coming in from other countries. They came in from prisons. They were drug dealers. They came in from mental institutions and insane asylums. They allowed them to just flow into our country. We're getting them out. We've got a lot of them out. Mm-hmm. Catch four, go. America was not founded by weak and timid men or women who coward in the face of evil or sat by as danger loomed. As President Theodore Roosevelt said, freedom is not a gift that lasts long in the hands of cowards and weak people. Today our country faces the threats that are very strong, but we have a much stronger country today than we had two years ago. Today, the threats that looked really bad, two years ago, three years ago, we had a country that was rudderless, just like that ship that had its rudder shut off. We have a country now with very strong, powerful rudders. But every one of you has your... soul, the strength and courage to face whatever comes before you. You're going to do unbelievably well. I just have no idea. I look at audiences all the time, but I'm looking at this audience. It's just an incredible group of people. A beautiful, beautiful, brilliant group of people. Also, before he arrived there, he was at Joint Base Andrews this morning. In front of a helicopter, cut six, go. What if you said to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about Iran and how long to hold off on strike? He's fine. He'll do whatever I want him to do. He's a very good man. He'll do whatever I want him to do, and he's a great guy. To me, he's a great guy. Don't forget, he was a wartime prime minister. And he's not treated right in Israel, in my opinion. I'm right now at 99% in Israel. I could run for prime minister. So maybe after I do this, I'll go to Israel, run for prime minister. I had a poll this morning. I'm 99%. So that's good. But, no, he's a wartime prime minister. I just don't think they treat him well. I think they have a president over there that treats him very poorly. You run the same cake with him on Iran? Yeah. Very good. We'll be right back. Mark Levin.

Thanks, yours too. What does RAV stand for anyway? To me, it's the remarkably advanced vehicle. Really? To me, it's the runway approved vehicle for its amazing style. What about remarkably adaptable vehicle because of its versatile cargo space? Or really admired vehicle? Oh, or really awesome vehicle. It really is the recreational activity vehicle. The stylish 2026 Toyota RAP4 Limited. What's your Rav for? This one really hurts. It really hurts me right in my heart. Bob Woodson of the Woodson Center passed away. I've known Bob Woodson. My God, how old? Forty-five years. That doesn't mean we had social events. That's not what I'm talking about. I knew him as a man, as a leader. is a great human being, great human being. He was very important to us in the Reagan administration, gave us a lot of great ideas on how to address inner city poverty and homelessness and so forth. And I am really, really sad to see him go. I really am. And...

You know, your life, you want to hope that you're a positive force. That doesn't mean you want of enemies. People will hate you. People will say nasty things. But apart from all the static and that, you want to be a positive force to the extent you can be. Trying to see here what his age was. Born in 1937, so he was 88, give or take. But I'm telling you, this man was remarkable. Absolutely remarkable. I'm just sorry to see this. We all have to go at some point, don't we? Let's see here. Woodson Center. And he was such a giving man. His time. Away from family, but a loving family man, too. I'm telling you, this man was really superb. Just very, very superb. And I will, I'll always remember Bob Woodson. Just a great guy. Remember the first time I met him, 23 years old in the Reagan administration. Just a very good man. Did a lot of good for a lot of people in the inner cities. had a completely contrary approach to the big welfare state approach. And he was hands-on, went into the communities, set up these programs, mentored, I don't know how many, hundreds of, excuse me, thousands of people. You know, it's tough when you lose a good guy. It is. I think about a lot of these fellows. I don't want to say which ones, but... who are up there in age and they can't live forever. I can't live forever with none of us can, of course. My wife keeps saying, stop eating that junk, stop drinking that Diet Coke. You know? I said, why does it matter? I'm going to say, because I want you to live. I've been doing pretty well, don't you think, Rich, over the last few years? So far, not too bad. Jeff Bezos, CEO at Amazon, I get the sense he's becoming increasingly conservative. And I don't mean it from a philosophical point of view. I mean from a common sense perspective. Because if you really think about it, when you put aside all the sort of scholarship and more the intellectual stuff and so forth and so on, which, of course, I eat up and so on. But when you put it aside, conservatism is common sense, isn't it? That's what the president says, and he's right. Well, I think that's where Jeff Bezos is, the CEO of Amazon. Now, why would you hate a guy like this? He's made all of our lives easier. He's created hundreds of thousands of jobs. How many little businesses have been created that use Amazon? So he's a powerful force for economic growth, economic opportunity, wealth creation. And he's enormously wealthy, and he deserves every penny. Because he's made other people successful, and you have your own measure of what successful is. But how many people can feed themselves and their families and purchase an automobile and a home and so forth and so on? All springing from this man's motivation, ideas, desires, and accomplishments. That should be celebrated.

Not the people who glom onto it with their radical kook ideology, who've created nothing and tell you who should get what, how, when. It's just crazy. Well, here he is on CNBC today. Cut 22 to go. Because people sometimes say that, you know, I don't pay taxes. It's not true. I pay billions of dollars in taxes. And it's a perfect, again, if people want me to pay more billions, then let's have that debate. But don't pretend, you know, that that's going to solve the problem. You could double the taxes I pay, and it's not going to help that teacher in Queens. I promise you. Now, what does he mean by that? He means. this money government just sucks it up into a black hole it's a black hole you know like the one in space or the ones in space or however they explain it it just goes away it's wasted it's there's fraud it not only won't go to teachers even more importantly it won't improve teaching and it won't improve education generally and a lot of the children and that's what education's for right go ahead So you can't connect those two things, not logically. You know, there are more examples. Why is rent expensive? Why is rent so expensive? I recently saw somebody blamed it on Airbnb. Okay, Airbnb is not the cost of expensive rent. In fact, it's been almost... Let me finish here. One second. It's already been outlawed in New York City, and rents are still very high. So we know Airbnb isn't causing high rents. What's really causing high rent is government intervention. We... subsidize demand with things like tax policy, which is fine. But at the same time, we constrain supply. We attack supply. More supply, the lower the costs. I'll be right back.

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44,000. That's 30% more per student than other big cities like Chicago, L.A., and Boston. And it's three times more than Miami and Houston. And by the way, New York City doesn't get better outcomes. So, listen, let me just say, if we ran Amazon the way New York City runs their school system, your packages would take six weeks to arrive. We'd have to charge you a $100 delivery fee. And then when the package did finally arrive, it'd have the wrong item in it anyway. Boy, this guy is cutting right to the bone, didn't he? He's cutting right to the bone. I've never really heard him speak before. Maybe he has. I just haven't heard it. One more. Cut 26. Go. So people talk about, you know, making the tax system more progressive. How about we start by having the nurse in Queens not pay taxes? At all. Why is a nurse in Queens who makes $75,000 a year paying more than $1,000 a month in taxes? That's $1,000 a month that could help with rent or groceries or anything. And by the way, do you know what that all adds up to? The bottom half of income earners in this country pay only 3% of the taxes. It's only 3%. We can find 3%. So we don't have, it's a small amount of money for the government, you know, that. And really, it's, the more I thought about it, to me, it's kind of absurd that we're doing this. You know, we shouldn't be asking. Here's where I disagree with him on a little bit, although I get the populism side of this. I would prefer an across-the-board straight income tax for everybody. That's what I prefer. Not a so-called progressive income tax. And that's why it's called progressive. And progressives call themselves progressive. Well, shouldn't wealthier people pay more? They will. But if you have an across-the-board flat tax without deductions, without deductions, 10%, 15%, whatever it is, they will pay more. But I think everybody ought to pay even a little bit into the system. Otherwise, people that don't pay anything into the system, and I'm not talking about any of you in particular, I'm just saying as a general understanding, they'll never complain about high taxes, will they, Mr. Produce? You'll literally have two-thirds, the three-fourths of the population of the nation who aren't paying taxes, income taxes. And so they don't give a damn how high-income taxes go. And so what the politicians will do is keep raising him, raising him, raising him, raising him. So basically what you have is what we call a mobocracy. That is, the mob keeps demanding more of the property from the others, the property being taxes. I mean, taxes, that's your property that they're taking when you're taxed. Your property, that's what they're taking.

So I prefer that. I also prefer what Ron DeSantis is trying to do in Florida, which is eliminate the property tax. And you'll say, well, how are we going to fund our schools and so forth and so on? At a minimum, they should be capped. At a minimum, they should be capped because it's totally out of control. Even in Republican counties with Republican school boards, I sat on one. I was elected to one. The pressure is to keep raising property taxes, and they do it by smoke and mirrors. Well, we haven't actually raised your taxes, but they increase the value of the property, the assessed value of the property. So even though they don't raise in what they call in many counties the millage or the rate, some cases they claim, we've lowered your taxes, but they've increased the value of the home, so out-of-pocket expenses are higher. And so as Ron DeSantis likes to point out, That is like paying two mortgages. You're paying the property tax and you're paying the mortgage. And once you pay off your mortgage, you're still having to pay off your property taxes every year like a second mortgage. So you never really own your home straight out. You pay off your mortgage, you rip it up, you're very excited, been there 30 years, maybe at a shorter, whatever it is. And then you go, wait a minute, what's this? It's a big property tax bill. And you have no control over it. The same people who tax you appraise the value of property. You literally have to hire somebody to fight it if you don't agree with it, and they almost always win on the other side. They almost always win. Because the county judges who hear the cases are bored with the whole damn thing. So there's that too. But I've always felt a flat tax across the board was the best way to go. That won't happen in my lifetime. In fact, that probably will never happen. And the biggest problem we have right now is spending, borrowing, and printing money. Even putting taxes aside because you could literally, listen to me, this is important. You could literally confiscate everybody's income one year, billionaires, millionaires, hardworking, middle class, whatever it is. And you won't come close to paying off the debt, which is over $300 trillion. That's multiple times the size of the economy every year. How do you come out from under that? Somebody's going to have to pay for that. Probably not our generation. Maybe not the next generation. somebody's going to have to pay for that. It's going to come crashing down on their heads. And we know what happens when that happens, right? Marshall law and all the rest. I hate even thinking about this stuff. I hate thinking about that. I hate thinking about what's going to happen if we don't get control over this Marxism, Islamism stuff. I worry about it, don't you? I worry about the kids and the grandkids and generations yet born. What are we going to give them? What are we handing them? Nobody even talks about this. I'm not trying to be a downer. I'm not trying to throw a wet blanket. Oh, great, Mark. I'm coming home. Oh, great. I just finished dinner. I'm telling you the truth. It's the truth. I'll be right back. Mark. Love, N.

All right, here we go. Eric, Detroit, Michigan, the great WJR. Go right ahead, please. Hello, Mark. Yes, sir. Hello, I'm 22 years old, and the Iran war, I'm not really sure what's going on. Like, we, us and Israel, we should take them out. Like, I'm nervous about our future here. I don't disagree with you. I'm with you, and I'm hoping we're not going to wait too much longer. You can't contain an ideological revolution. People say, how do you defeat it? Well, we've defeated them before. You've got to defeat it by defeating it. And you defeat the regime. You can't just defeat it with our Air Force and our Navy. You can't just defeat it with the Israeli Air Force and Navy. You can't just defeat it with our intelligence agencies. The people want to destroy it. They want to defeat it. And so we need to have all that plus help them. Help them. They're not asking for us to go, you know, send ground troops in. I'm not talking about that. Arm them. Arm them. The French helped armed us during the Revolutionary War. I mean, we helped arm the freedom fighters in Afghanistan to great success. They pushed out. The Soviets, what happened afterwards, long after Reagan left is a whole other story, but unrelated. Angola, Nicaragua, and on and on and on. So I'm with you, Eric, I'm with you 100%. Thanks for your call. Good call. Let's go to Steve, Gardner, Massachusetts, the great WGAW, where there's not a single Republican congressman in the entire Commonwealth of Massachusetts. How are you, Steve? I'm doing well, Mark. Thank you for taking my call. I've been Owen Levinite since your W.A.B.C. Sunday show. And originally from Rockland County and New City. So I've been listening to you. I love you. Keep up the good work. But just to let you know here in Massachusetts, they're out of 54 municipalities, out of 351 of the municipalities, 51 are going for overrides for taxes on property taxes. because of health care cost transportation, that type of thing. Recently, Brookline, Massachusetts, Detroit set out of Boston, approved a $26 million override on their local taxes because they can't pay for schools and DPW. So where's all the money going? I mean, some states do it better than other states. A lot of municipalities are wasting the money, paying off not-for-profit groups, et cetera, to get basically political donations. You're right. Let me tell you something, Steve. I was a young man on our school board in Cheltenham Township, Pennsylvania, right outside of Philadelphia. My buddy was the president of the board. I don't know how we got him on there. Bob Seelock, he was 27. I was 20, so he was an old man compared to me. Anyway, we would go through that budget. We would find things over, and it's just horrific, misspending and unnecessary things, and some of the courses were utterly ridiculous. So this is all built into the system, and when they say things like, you know, cost of living, we need to increase, they never want to actually dig into the budget. And so...

When I think of Massachusetts, I think of a beautiful shoreline. I think of a great history in our founding. And I think about of a bunch of libs, a one-party state, which is basically kissing the hand of the teachers' unions and vice versa. I think of corruption. I think of all that kind of stuff. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. And here in northern Massachusetts, right near the New Hampshire border, there are more independents and Republicans than there are Democrats, but they redistrict out the whole area, not only on the congressional level, but also state rep and state Senate districts, too. It's crazy. And we have to hear these lectures from the Democrats about this Hakeem Jeffries, who something's wrong with that guy. He's dangerous. He's a real thug. He really is. The way he talks, his tyrannical mindset, big trouble. Great call, Stephen. Thanks for listening to me. Almost a quarter of a century. You're a good guy. The gentleman who called before is 22 years old. We started before he was born. We salute our armed forces, police officers, firefighters, emergency personnel, ICE, our truckers, the men and women in Israel, the men and women in Ukraine, the men and women in Persia. And you, the American people, God bless each and every one of you. And I'll see you tomorrow. Have a great evening.