Brian Kilmeade ShowApril 29, 20262h 2m

"They Want to Turn Up the Pain" – Trump's Plan to Smother Iran's Economy

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In the moment, some of us have moved on, but you go back and think about it. I mean, it was quite something. I think what people did understand is the other level when we went down to that other room and those guys ran in and said there could be another shooter. It added another level of kind of urgency as we ran down the back hallway to try to get out by the kitchen there. Yeah, so I think we're going to hear a lot today that may answer some questions. My biggest ones are, you know, what exactly happened to get him down? Did somebody tackle him? Did he wasn't shot? Like, why is he on the ground? Why doesn't he have a shirt on? What is, what's, like, did they take him, did somebody jump him? How did he stop him? It's not in the affidavit. It's not in the affidavit. I know. And so, I mean, it says he just stopped. I mean, to stop and lay on the ground? I just don't fully understand it yet. Anyway, so hopefully the Secret Service will provide some more answers. And as far as security, I mean, I do think. There's another level that probably would push it outside, but there was inside a lot of security that moved within seconds. And I'm not sure that he would have gotten far had he made it to those stairs. Right. Yeah, the question is you've been, I've been to like 10 of them. You've been to probably every one of them, probably double that. 20. I mean, did you notice anything? I wasn't really, I don't really notice security. I just say, okay, what do you need? A license? But have you noticed this? Was this more lax than you remember? I'm trying to go back. I think it was lax getting in. I always thought that the mags were a little bit further out. and they seemed a little bit in. And maybe that was because of the weather. I don't know. But inside, I think there were so many agents that I think that it was, you know, pretty secure. So, Brett, you were at the, also you were at the big, the big salute state dinner for the king and the queen last night. How was it? Yeah, it was quite something. I mean, it's as formal as you can get, a white tie, you know, tails. And my wife really loved it. It was really a lot of pageantry, music, and obviously the president was on point with his toast and then the king with his. I think, you know, the trip probably ends up being a plus plus. and really good for the relationship that had some bumpy times over recent weeks. I think it was worth pointing out is, you know, Storm went out of his way to really say, I have nothing to do with this war. And then he said, you can use the bases, but you can only use them for certain things. You can now use Diego Garcia and other things. So there's still...

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you know, barely, you know, helping out. And they're having meetings about what we should do without us, what they should do in Iran without us. And then I want you to hear the chancellor from Germany yesterday. This through an interpreter, cut 11. At the moment, I cannot see what strategic exit the Americans are now opting for, especially as the Iranians are obviously negotiating very skillfully, or rather very skillfully not negotiating and letting the Americans travel to Islamabad, only to leave again without any results. This entire nation is being humiliated by the Iranian state leadership, especially by these so-called Revolutionary Guards. What is he talking about? If you felt that way, pick up the phone and talk to the president, but that is not the way allies act. Yeah, that's interesting statement and obviously doesn't really match what's happening on the ground. Thank you. For the people who say that Iran is winning, I just... I don't see that. It's not a, there's a disconnect. Now, are they playing the clock? Are they trying to work the calendar? Are they trying to pressure the U.S. to, you know, that they can outlast us as far as, you know, the will to continue lobbing things in the straightover moves? Sure, they're doing all of that. But. As far as the taking down of leadership and infrastructure and ability to make weapons and weapons themselves, I think the military has shown pretty adapted to him. So I think Scott Bessent's the new Secretary of War, Brett. I mean, he's cracking down on 35 separate agencies that are dealing illicitly with Iran. You know that the Treasury does a great job cracking down on terror. They've proved themselves dating back to the Bush years. We've really learned to be great at it. So now we're focusing heavily on Iran. And we hear the stories. They always have to factor, and there's a lot of murkiness to it, that they have nowhere to put their oil, and their only choice is going to be to cap their wells will be a disaster. What are things like on the ground? We don't have a great window into that. I look at the Tehran Times, which is just propaganda. But I'm just trying to get a sense of it. We could be squeezing them economically. And the president's word to the Wall Street Journal is prepared to keep the blockade in place for a while. Yeah, and that will have a devastating effect economically if they have to cap those wells. I don't fully understand it, but apparently it's very tough to sometimes restart them. And I think they're running out of storage anywhere from five to 20 days.

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You know, they're moving old storage tankers to try to hold oil as they're, you know, just looking for places to store it. I think, yeah, the sanctions, the money will chasing money around the world. It's putting the pinch on. And the question is how much can they run in stake without coming to the table with something that's legitimate. The last thing that came to the table with. was not even close to legitimate. Yeah, they say, we're going to charge tolls, but we'll open up the straight, and the blockade. And we'll talk about, we'll schedule, we'll put you on the schedule to talk about our nuclear program. Nice try. So I want to focus on the uranium, okay? I also want to focus on the future of the nuclear program. Understood. But we have to know one of the weakness of the JCPOA under Obama is they don't touch the ballistic missile program. Here's General Jack Keene last night, cut eight. And their ballistic missile program, that is their major conventional weapon. This is the thing that the Israeli intelligence and our intelligence were so concerned about because they were accelerating the development of ballistic missiles after the 12-day war with the assistance of China, bringing in fuel and components, and deeply burying these storage sites so they would be indeed protected. And the concern was that this could... program continues to explode. At some point, it's going to overwhelm Israeli's ability to defend against that. So the clock was ticking here. And people seem, in the media at least, to forget what the justification here was. So we forget, I mean, the president's not going to forget about the ballistic missile program, but in the big picture of that and funding the proxies, that you're going to have to really make Iran understand that they're losing or have lost for them to come to the table with that. Yeah, and that was lost in the JCPOA. And, you know, knowing that the inspection regime of nuclear was weak to the point where they were cheating. And on the missiles, they were cheating there, too. I mean, when Kirstomber says, you know, it's not our war, well, I mean, it is if they have missiles that can reach you. And if they're firing at Diego Garcia in the middle of the Indian Ocean, they can reach you. Absolutely. So, Brett, you pumped up for your book? Yeah, I'm really psyched. You know how these things go. The launch week. But I'm really excited about it ahead of the 250th. I think it's got some legs as far as making the case for the country through the eyes of the founders, through the eyes of all these presidents I've written about, and through the eyes of... different interviews around the country with prominent people who, you know, have different takes about how to make the case. And, you know, it's a case in front of a jury of your peers that I think we could stand to here ahead of the 250th. And by the way, it's a great book. You were able to give me the galleys and I was able to endorse it. And it was my honor. And just tell everyone some of the people in the book that weighed in.

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Yeah, you've got Connoisse of Rice. You've got Ken Langone, Douglas Brinkley, Arthur Brooks, David Rubenstein, Hugh Hewitt, Britt Hume, a whole panoply of folks that Tim Schrever... Awesome. You know, there's just a lot of folks that weigh in about their journey and kind of how they pass on making the case for America. You know, that's the difference between me and you. I never were to use the word panoply, but we're different. That's why you're on prime time, and I'm in the mornings. Brett Bair, thanks so much, man. And congratulations. I look forward to seeing you in person next week. You bet. You got it. You listen to Brian Kilmeade. Don't move. It's Brian Kilmeade. Hi everyone, it's Brian Kilmeade here. Are you tired of those uncomfortable dress shirts, especially when they bunch up under a sweater? If so, then you must check out collars and go. Makers of the dress collar polo. Listen up. These shirts are four-way stretch, buttery soft polos with firm dress collars on them, so they give you the dress shirt look, but extremely comfortable polo feel. You can wear them with anything under a sweater, with a blazer, or by themselves as an elevated polo. They work for any occasion. These polos are perfect, whether it's in the office. on a golf course or a night out. Collars & Co is exploding and have gone viral on social media thanks to the $1 million investment they received on Shark Tank from Mark Cuban and Peter Jay Jones. You don't have to worry about collars that flop down and spread out. They stay firm and sharp all day. It's an amazing array of sweaters, quartersips, pants, and outerwear. If you're looking for the performance dress shirt or polo that looks great all day, check out collars and co.com. Use promo code. Brian, or 15% off of any purchase of $100 or more. That's promo code Brian. Breaking news, unique opinions. Here it all on the Brian Kilmeade. Hi, well, welcome back. This is the Brian Kilmeade, as the guy with the deep voice just said. One of the most intriguing things now when we talk about the Iran War is... How we're hitting them. We're hitting them with the economy. The new Secretary of War, my view, is Scott Bessent. I mean, he's the one aggressively shutting down. And by the way, we did a fantastic job with this when it came to terror during the Bush years, a way of finding out who's paying these terror agencies or these terror groups and shutting them down, especially in Syria. We learned a lot from that. So now we've got to shut down Iran. We let those ghost ships deliver oil. We let the sanctioned oil get beat. delivered to China? Not anymore. And he's Scott Bessent already moving on multiple agencies. So the other big story is the UAE. And the UAE out of nowhere announces we're leaving OPEC. All right. I know it's big news, but I'm not an energy expert. What does it actually mean for the price of gas at the pump? So Charles Payne was on with us on Fox and Friends. It went so well. I want you to hear what he said and get his evaluation of where we're going. Meanwhile, this morning, gas prices $4.20, the highest since the Iran war started. We're going to learn, we're learning now that President Trump and his team reportedly met with oil and gas executives at the White House yesterday. He says Iran is in a state of collapse. As the UAE says, it's leaving OPEC Friday, a major shakeup for global energy markets, here with what it all means and for your wallet and for your life, the host of making money. Foxman's his own, Charles Payne. Charles, first off,

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What about the state as we know it of Iran and their oil production? Oil production is tough because they're running out of storage facilities. They can't transport it. We've been turning away ships. And on top of that, the estimates are $400 million a day. That's about the approximate how much they're losing. In the meantime, because there's no commerce, food prices like beef up 75%. We have sticker shock when we go to the grocery store, but dairy up 50%. So the advice is tightening and tightening and tightening. And it's just... It feels like if you look at the data and the numbers, it's a matter of weeks before they come to some sort of economic, to Trump's point, an economic collapse. The Treasury Secretary is the new War Secretary. He is going after Iran's so-called shadow banking network. He has sanctioned 35 entities tied to billions in illicit oil and financial funds. Joe Biden looked the other way. He says, okay, guys, we want you to get you to the table. Go ahead and do your illegal stuff. Right. Not anymore. Right. This is it. This is tough stuff. Listen. There's going to be a conclusion to this, and it's going to be a conclusion that the White House wants. And listen, you could take the blockade. It's a little longer. But really, it's not from an economic point of view. If you start to close off all those economic vows, like shadow banking, it gets rougher and rougher for these guys. Because you're not paying the military. You're not pursuing the IRGC. You're not paying the besiege. Sooner or sooner or later, people are going to go, what am I doing here? By the way, and there's also more and more civil activity going on, civilians protesting. Those are starting to climb as well. So you've got, listen, you go to store, sticker stock, you know, you can't beef is up 75%. They already wanted to go out in the streets anyway. So you got that protest climbing. You have no money coming in. You've got the tensions within the government. They're sitting inside of a boiler right now. So we know about UAE and Saudi Arabia at loggerheads. So especially when it comes soil and gas. UAE says, I'm out of OPEC. What does that mean? You know, I was really shocked that crude prices went up yesterday on the headline because UAE, one of the reasons they want to get out is they've invested in their infrastructure. They have the ability to produce. Right now there's about 3.6 million barrels a day. They can do it anywhere up to 1.5 million more. But they're locked in because of OPEC pricing. In the meantime, these other OPEC nations, they haven't invested anything. They're fine with it, right? And they don't have excess capacity. So they've been at Loggerhead, to your point. Very great friends are separating. UAE has been brilliant. Everyone knows Dubai what they've done economically. And so Saudi Arabia can't control them anymore. And the big fear for them, of course, is they start pumping more. members of OPEC are going to say, hey, we want to pump more too. And of course, we know economics 101, the more oil they pump, the more the price will go down. That's why I was shocked at the industrial reaction. Maybe today, oil is up because the blockade is going to be extended. But yesterday's reaction was kind of interesting. When this is all settled, and the U.E is pumping out more oil, maybe one and a half million barrels or more a day, and other nations see that, I think it makes the price of crew come down faster than we anticipate it.

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It'll be interesting. All eyes on the economy. You bring their economy down. You bring Iran down. Absolutely. Thanks so much, Joe. So the question is about Iran, is this the way to break them? Because the way we have it, the way we understand it, is they have nowhere to put the oil so they're going to have to cap the wells. Is that going to be in lieu of fighting? Or do you think we're going to go back to the war? And will the president pay the price with the approval ratings if, in fact, we do? In the short term, in the spring, does that make it a good summer if we make that choice? I'll talk to Rich Lowry about that. This is the Brian Kilmeade on a beautiful Wednesday. So glad you're there. Welcome to a new era of baseball's great spectacle. The T-Mobile Home Run Derby live on Netflix. The biggest sluggers in baseball put their talents to the test on all-star weekend. Raw power meets star power. Big swagger meets bigger slams. And you don't swing to make contact. You swing to make history. Watch the T-Mobile Home Run Derby live on Netflix this Monday, July 13th, at 8 p.m. Eastern 5 p.m. Pacific.

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News, unique opinions. Here it all on the Brian Kilmeade. First of all, I have a lot of strategy questions because, you know, I think the Secret Service Director is saying this publicly, so I'm not saying anything he didn't say in private, but that it went according to plan, that, you know, if someone breached it, they were going to have to go in through a room full of armed guards before they got into the banquet hall. I don't know that that's... the best strategy, but again, I could have misunderstood him, and he's going to present to our whole committee tomorrow. But I think that the American people have serious concerns. We don't want to criticize the Secret Service. We want to make the Secret Service better because we have a lot of people that we have to protect to save our government and to save, you know, the stability of our government, and we expect the Secret Service to do better. So today, Sean Kern is set to brief the House Oversight Committee, that James Comer that you just heard there is the chairman. So we're going to find out about the suspect. Cole Allen, what is he up to? Could we have picked up something in his writings and screens and past comments should have been picked up ahead of time? And what about his background? Is it similar at all to the Charlie Kirk would be assassin? The CEO of the health care company right down the road for me, Brian Thompson. What about the first would be Butler would be assassin? They have anything in common with the Ryan Ruth, who sat outside the golf course. And when he was a candidate, I understand. It's a there can't be as bolstered as a president. But the president should be. The safest person, even though he's most targeted, he also should be the safest, is he? Rich Lowry joins us now, editor of National Review. And your latest column is appropriate. Trump's defiance of assassin shows why he's so exceptional, exceptional as a history maker. Rich, first off, what do you, what's your biggest question from Saturday night and the would-be assassin and how he was stopped? Well, I think the... Secret Service did do their job. Their job is to create this security perimeter that creates this bubble around the president, and it's very difficult or impossible to breach it. They did that. But the problem is the nature of this event and how close in the security perimeter was. Because, I don't know, one last time you've been to the White House correspondent center, but the charm of it, you get into the hotel lobby, and no one really checks anything. At least when I went, I don't even think they used to go, I don't even think they'd check the ticket. You just walked in the lobby, and then you go to parties. And you can go from party to party, and you see cabinet members, you see prominent journalists, you see other famous people, and you all just rub the elbows together, and it's great. So thank God this guy didn't have a plan just to take out some high-profile people, and they tried to get the president because he wasn't going to get to the president, but he could have done something awful just in the lobby and outside the security perimeter. So this event and this new security environment just has to change is not going to be able to run the way it has in the past. So I think that's the big takeaway here. And I think cabinet members might need bags at all their events now. It's crazy. Yeah, because if you read his material, cabinet members were as targeted for him as the president. And guess what? Almost all of them were there, which, by the way, that's a mistake. I mean, the administration has to admit that's a mistake.

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Like everyone, everyone. I mean, the speaker making his own decisions. Yeah, everyone in this, like there's six members of the succession and five of them were there. I think Chuck Rathley maybe was the only one it wasn't. So when you talk about the climate today, I know nobody is playing the perfect game, but I want you to hear with Don Lemon and Charlemagne had to say about the rhetoric and the role in this, Cut 20. I am so sick of false equivalence. It drives me crazy because that is... Because these things are not equivalent. People always say so are we going to tone down the violent rhetoric towards Trump. Stop it. Like I'm sick of that narrative. I need every single media personality to direct that energy and that question towards one person and one person only. And that person is President Donald J. Trump. At what point do people simply say, hey, Trump is clear that you're the drama? You really think president brings this on himself? Well, I mean, it just stir the pot unnecessarily at times, but that doesn't justify calling him a pedophile or Hitler. People shouldn't say these things, one, because they're untrue, but two, at the margins, they're dangerous because people will take them seriously and try to act on them. And perhaps the most disturbing thing about this whole listen, Brian, is this guy wasn't disturbed at all that we didn't tell. And completely rational, no crazy beliefs just repeating back what mainstream Democrats. think about Trump. You know, the first word in his indictment of Trump is that is a pedophile. How often we hear that? On CNN, it's a complete line. There's no evidence for it whatsoever, but it's obviously a radioactive charge. And the kind of thing, if you believe it of someone, you might think you're going to take matters into your own hand. So there needs to be a lot of introspection on the same side. And it's kind of incredible every time I hear him open his mouth now to think that Don Lemon was supposed to be a straight news guy when he was on CNN. It's absurd. I want you to hear James Carville, and this is just some of the rhetoric. I could play like 25 people calling him Hitler and a fascist, and are democracies in jeopardy, cut 24. I've called Trump DMF word, and I've called him worse than that, and I've called him Masary's sack. I'm going to think. Rod, who is JD Vance's spiritual mentor, and Tucker Carlson, who is a person of some substance in a Republican Party, have both called Trump the Antichrist. Well, even I haven't gotten there. So please, all of the people that fake in the street about my name calling, understand this. I have not yet referred to Donald John Trump as the Antichrist. All right? because I think antichrist would be smarter than him. So, there you go. Well, I mean, he's right about Tucker Carlson. I mean, this is crazy. You get on the right now as well. Call him a bad president if you don't like him, okay? You know, that's a defensible charge. I don't agree with you, but don't call a pedophile. Don't call him a rapist. Don't call him a fascist. Don't call him Hitler. And don't call him the anti-crime.

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It's insane. People have lost their mind. Yeah, I mean, by the way, did you think Hitler had trouble getting permission to build a ballroom? Yeah, of course. He's constrained by a democratic constitutional system. Now he's pushing the envelope from lots of ways. He has executive power, but that doesn't make him a fascist or Hitler. Yeah, it's built into the system. When it comes to the war in Iran, the president's going to say, get used to a long blockade. He thinks, and people have confirmed, Iran's losing $400 million a day. I don't think he's ready to open up the military again, but they are in place. And we're actually have more firepower now. What are your thoughts? Well, I think eventually the blockade will grind them to dust. I don't think it would happen next week or maybe not even next month, but if we could do this for seven months or something, I'm just making up the numbers. I think eventually they just flat out or run out of money. But the problem is Iran also has a pressure point, obviously, through constraining the straight-of-moose, not affecting us as much as other places like Asia and Europe, but it will pinch more here as well, and you see it in gas prices. So it is a game of chicken. If you're just in isolation outside of the politics, just keep it going. Trump has the winning cards, I think, because the blockade is going to hurt them much more than it's going to hurt us. But it's just a question of how much pain in the West can sustain and, of course, perhaps getting there. Editor of National Review, Rich Lowry, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thanks much, Brian. All right. When we come back, Senator Steve Danes from Montana, finance, foreign relations, and a big trip to China. Don't move. Politics, current events, and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmeade. This is summer at its peak. Whole Foods Market's summer fruit fest is your invitation to eat the season. Fresh, organic, and bursting with flavor. Start your day with peaches and organic blueberries and yogurt. Build a grazing board with fresh fruit, prosciutto, and artisanal cheese. Then fire up the grill with no antibiotics ever proteins and fresh produce. Savor the season. Shop summer fruit fest at Whole Foods Market.

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Fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmeade. Hi, everybody. Welcome back. This is the Brian Kilmeade with my pleasure to bring in Senator Steve Danes, Finance, Farm Relations, Energy Committee, out of Montana. And Senator, first off, your decision to not come back. When did you make that decision and why? Yeah. Well, it's a great question. It's a question I chat at link with President Trump about and Susie Wiles and others. But, Brian, I spent 28 years in the private sector before getting in public service. I was 13 years with Procter and Gamble, including six years living in China, launching brands and business over there to compete. I was 12 years with a cloud computing startup. We took the company public and sold to Oracle. That was 12-year chapter. This will be 14 years now in public service. I serve two years in the House. It'll be 12 years in the U.S. Senate. I'm kind of a 12 to 14 year chapter guy, Brian. And I think like George Washington and other great leaders in our nation, they were in the private sector. They went and served publicly and then returned back to the private sector. And that's what I think. We need to do as a family. My heart is full of gratitude. It's been a wonderful 14 years, Brian. I told President Trump, I can't believe how much we've got done, starting with changing the Supreme Court, stopping a $5 trillion tax increase, the work we've done on the international stage. What an honor to work with President Trump, my Republican colleagues. But we have seven grandchildren. It's the last point, Brian. We went from zero to seven grandkids in the last six years. And Grandpa wants to spend a little more time with them back in Montana. Understood. And plus, it's a heck of a commute. You know, it's not like you're in Virginia. So when you're going back and forth, that's a lot of miles. So my sweet wife, Cindy, takes me to the airport every Monday morning at 5 a.m. I jump on a Delta flight to get back to Washington. And she doesn't complain about it. We've been married for 39 years. And I want to spend a little more time back in Montana with her as well. She's a trooper. And we're excited about the next chapter. And as I've said, Brian, I'm not going to retire. I don't believe in that word. I'm going to repurpose. I've got a lot of energy left. We'll find something to do. Well, I'm sure you will. And the other thing was, do you have an idea of who should replace you? I do. His name's Kirk Almie. He is President Trump's U.S. attorney under Trump 45 and Trump 47. He's a wonderful guy, born or raised in Montana, got a CPA, got a law degree from Harvard with honors. As we say in Montana, he got a great education and he got over it. He's not only his high-browed Harvard guys, but he's really smart. He's just, he's a, he's a Reagan kind of leader. He's got a winsome. friendliness about him, really smart, passionate about our state and our country. He'll be the next senator from Montana. Kurt Almese the name.

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I want you to hear what Ben Sass says about how you should serve, cut 53. Many senators I know would not be able to breathe without that job. It would kill them to leave. I don't want what you said to be true, but I fear that that is true. And that is a sign of a much, much deeper problem. We got a lot of people who serve in government who really do think the highest and greatest thing you can ever do is have the title senator or congressman. Bullshed. The best thing you can do is be called dad or mom, lover, neighbor, friend. Governor, senator, house member. It's a great way to serve. It should be your 11th calling or maybe 6th, but never top. So I guess that's what you're saying. And Ben Sass sadly is dealing with a terminal cancer. They're already defying the odds in being alive. Ben Sasse and I are close friends. We were elected together back in 2014. That was the night when we picked up nine seats in the U.S. Senate. We were in the minority. This is Barack Obama's second midterm. Picked up nine seats. We had 54 Republican senators. Ben Sasse was on that team. I was one of them as well. And that team changed the trajectory of America. We changed the Supreme Court when President Trump was elected in 16. But Ben Sass... I listened to that 60 Minutes interview flying in Monday morning, you know, the long commute. I had tears in my eyes by the time that that interview wrapped up. And Ben's exactly right. He's one of the most principled, level-headed, smart guys I've ever served with. And he talked about our founding fathers. He talked about George Washington. In fact, in that interview, just as I described, I was kind of parroting Ben Sass as how I think great leaders. don't find their identity in their leadership title. It makes you a more secure leader. I was in the Oval Office as President Trump a few weeks ago working on the TSA funding issue and the Democrats, you know, defunded so much of our DHS. And we had a two-hour meeting in the Oval Office. And President Trump, he's so insightful. In the middle of this discussion, we talked about the shutdown TSA, we talked about the need to fund ICE, we talked about Venezuela, we talked about Iran. And then I'm sitting there with the three other Senate colleagues. I was also with Markwayne Mullin and Tom Homan right across from the Resolute Desk and the Oval from the President. And he looked at me and he said, Steve, we're going to miss you in the U.S. Senate. You're one of the great ones. I said, well, thank you, Mr. President. It's very kind words. And he said, most politicians are insecure and have low self-esteem. That was a remarkable comment by the president. And he's right. And I say that respectfully. We all struggle sometimes with our identity. But he said, Steve, you're secure. You're retiring. And I found that to be a really insightful comment. And I think the best leaders keep their...

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titles held with an open palm, not with a clenched fist. Understood. Now you have one big trip. You're going to China, right? So far that China is on schedule still. What do you and the president expect to accomplish? Because we know we're dealing with there, right? I mean, they're stealing our stuff. They're threatening Taiwan. I'm not sure they're not on savory activity in Iran. What are you guys going to talk about? What's the tone going to be like? Yeah. Well, I chatted with Scott Bessent last night. I was at the Charles III State Dinner. What an amazing event last night, Brian. One of the greatest things I've ever attended. In fact, I texted President Trump this morning. We went to 1130 last night, Brian, and the President's on his feet the entire time talking to everybody. And I just had a heartful of gratitude this morning coming into work. It was such a beautiful event in so many great Patriots there in one room. It was not real big, 150 people. And I texted the President this morning. a heartful of gratitude, he texted me right back. You know, 745 this morning. He's remarkable in terms of stamina. But back to China visit, here's a couple of thoughts. I think you have to keep one eye wide open, certainly with the hawkish view of China, just as you described here in terms of intellectual property theft, what's going on, certainly with Iran, with Taiwan, and so forth. But the other eye, he's to remember. that we have got to continue to compete with China on the global stage, particularly as a relation to technology. The United States and China comprise about 40% of the world's economy, completely isolating decoupling, in my view, is the wrong strategy. Scott Bessent says it well. He says, we cannot decouple, but we need to de-risk. I think that's the right operating principle as President Trump goes over the week after I'll be over there next week. Remember that... The trade deficit now is decreased because of President Trump's leadership from $300 billion to $200 billion year over year, looking out last year. But we run a $1.2 trillion revenue surplus with the S&P 500. These are U.S. companies, and it's important that U.S. companies use an example. Boeing. If Boeing is not continuing to sell aircraft into that China market, we lose the ability for Boeing to get top line revenues to invest in next generation aircraft to make sure we beat Comac, which is the Chinese knockoff of airplanes. And so this is that delicate balance and wisdom needed. President Trump gets it, Scott Bessent gets it, Marco Rubio gets it, and we'll be there the week before. Senator, how close are we to being independent of them for rare earth? I know it's an all hands-on-deck push. It's not just our own. We're going everywhere, Australia, Indonesia. What do you hear? Yeah, well, that's part of the de-risk part of the equation. We've got to have here in terms of Chinese dependencies. But we're going to become independent two ways. One certainly is more made in America, rare earths. Number two is friend shoring. We've developed stronger relationships now. I've been doing a lot of work on Central Asia, the Caucasus, Vietnam. There's these other countries in the world that provide alternative sources of the rare earths. Take Kazakhstan, for example, the leading supplier of uranium in the world. That's not a rare earth, but very important long term for base load power and electricity. We bring Kazakhstan closer to us. Of course, they border Russia, former Soviet Republic. The Kazakhstan is now becoming a very good friend of the United States. Thanks to President Trump's diplomatic efforts, we're bringing these former...

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more Soviet and China-friendly countries closely to the United States. That's all part of the global strategy to make sure they now become part of a friendly supply chain versus depending on China. Well, that's certainly we would help. So we'll see what's going to happen. And president's doubling down on the blockade. You think that's the best strategy? You only have 15 seconds left? I do. This is, it's all about economic power. That's the soft power side of this. He's very smart playing chess right now with the Iranians. I stay tuned what he does there, but that's starting to cripple the Iranian economy. That's key to getting changed that we need in Iran. Yeah. Senator Steve Daines, you'll be missed, but you're going to run through the tape. I know it. Appreciate it. Thanks, Brian. Need a laptop that's built to perform and designed to last all day? Select Windows 11 PCs starting at 49999 are now at Best Buy. Learn more at Best Buy.com. Best Buy. Imagine that. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade.

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I'm so glad you there. It's the Brian Kilmeade. Coming to you from Midtown Manhattan. Heard around the country, around the world. This hour, we're going to be joined by the President and CEO, the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, Michael Mikovsky, and Ben Dominance is standing by. We're also seeing it's going to happen shortly. We're going to see the head of the Secret Service go talk about the shooting that took place at the White House correspondent's dinner. We'll get some answers. I mean, we need a lot of answers, a lot. Sean Curran. And he'll have them. And I like how Chairman Comer is approaching it. We'll discuss that. So just a quick reminder. We've got a YouTube page now. It's going great. It's a channel, I should say. YouTube.com slash at the Brian Kilmeade. Be part of the mania. And hope I'm part of your algorithm. We got clips from this and everything else I'm doing. And I think you really like it. So let's get to the big three. Number three. Ken, you're going to go ahead with your building in New York? Well, you know, I'm meeting with the governor Thursday. Is New York going to put their fiscal house to order and run itself from a position of a strong government that's pro-business? Doesn't sound like it. That's Ken Griffin speaking in Jon Ossoff, Norway, after being called out by a socialist mayor, capitalist slapback. Socialist lawmakers getting pushed back from the most successful who have been villainized. What their plan is in response, we'll discuss it. Number two. The Secret Service Director is saying this publicly, so I'm not saying anything he didn't say in private, but that it went according to plan, that, you know, if someone breached it, they were going to have to go in through a room full of armed guards before they got into the banquet hall. I don't know that that's the best strategy. Correspondence dinner shooting investigation. It's front and center. Secret Service tries to piece together. The assassin, the Secret Service reaction. The plan, the guns, and who shot who? Number one. Look what they've done with the Straits. Great example. The Straits is basically the equivalent of an economic nuclear weapon that they're trying to use against the world. And they're bragging about it. Imagine if those same people had access to a nuclear weapon. They would hold the whole region hostage. That doesn't seem to bother a lot of our allies digging in. Trump tells the Navy, plan for a long blockade. As Scott Bessent takes over... The war rains to bleed Iran's economy drive. Will this bring the mootless to their knees? We'll discuss. It's hard to get a true feeling of how bad things are in Iran, but just no. Inflation was over 100%. They're... Currency was worthless before the war. And now they're saying losing $400 million a day because we're stopping all their exports. So they have nowhere to store the oil, which they can't stop pumping. If they do stop pumping, it'll ruin the well. So they'll have to cap it. And it'll never be the same. That's a decision coming their way that Trump wants to make them having to make. And in speaking to a high-ranking official today, speaking to the president, he believes. that they just don't, they will do anything to hold on to the nuclear program. So he's about to turn up the pain. Ben Dominant joins us now. He's on Zoom so you can check it out if you want to check out the stream. Ben, welcome back.

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Hey, it's always great to be with you, Brian, and good to be with you and to see you after everything that went down this past weekend, which I know was crazy for a lot of our colleagues and a lot of people in the Trump administration. Yeah, I talked to you, sister, too, recently at my last trip over in Houston, so that was great. So, Ben, in particular in this move today, what questions do you have for the Secret Service if Sean Kern was in front of you? So there are several questions that I have. First off, I mean, you mentioned this in the loadout from, in anticipation of these questions from Comer. Is this really the best way to approach things? One of the things that I've heard consistently from friends of mine who are within the security business is that essentially this was running the same kind of playbook that they've run in the Washington Hilton before, which is something that I think is actually a question itself. Why, with the president coming back, to the White House Correspondent Center with President Trump in particular coming to there for the first time. Having as many significant cabinet officials therefore attending as well, having the line of succession there in terms of JD Vance being also there. Why didn't they go outside the box in terms of saying, you know, we need to, you know, really ramp up the amount of security that we have. We need to check every box. We need to make sure that we're not just running the same playbook that we've been running for the past 10 plus years when it comes to this hotel, which is already a kind of sprawling mess, as you know. to try to secure. I also think that, you know, as our own John Roberts experience, by the way, I don't know if he's mentioned this to you, but. he believes that he and his wife were staying on the same floor as the shooter. And that just speaks to the fact that he was able to get in and out of the building, just using a piece of paper because he had a room there. It's the kind of thing that you could have people milling about in the lobby of the hotel who have no real security clearance at all. They basically just pass through a perimeter and get checked out visually to see if they're crazy or something like that. They don't have to go through. or magnometer or anything along those lines to get into the hotel. I have tons of questions about this. And the other thing is,

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To a certain extent, the Secret Service and everyone there has to thank the fact that this shooter, this attempted assassin, was so bad at his prep. He may have spent a long time prepping for it. He booked the room almost a month earlier. He got on a train, went across country to help avoid detection. But if he had had something that was potentially a bomb or an explosive device, anything like that, that he could have used, even in the outer rooms, the amount of damage and the amount of destruction that could have happened and the loss of human life could have been much more significant. They have to be thankful for the fact that he was kind of an idiot. And that's the kind of thing that I don't think we should be having to say at this point. We've gone through enough of these experiences with President Trump to know. You can't bet on the idiocy of assassins when it comes to protecting him going forward. And we, look, the president. loves to get in contact with people. He loves to meet them where they are. He loves to walk into a McDonald's. He loves to see, you know, average Americans where they are, meet voters, et cetera. We all know that about him. He wants to be able to continue to do that. In order for that to happen, Secret Service needs to get better at their jobs. I don't care, you know, if they ultimately followed their plan and if they can say, look, you know, there would have been additional thresholds. He was not going to ever make it to the room. They could make that case today. Personally, I think the rest of this presidency, he is going to have to be on a much higher level of security. And that includes officials around him. You know, we have to keep in mind, it's not just the president we're talking about. We're talking about people who don't have that level of secret service protection. We're talking about Stephen Miller and his wife. We're talking about people in the admin who have angered a lot of leftists out there who are targets as well. And look, I... I have confidence in the people that we have as being good people, but do we have enough of them and are the plans the right plans? That's a big question. Yeah, and let's say, because I know one thing, when it goes down, these guys are so brave and these women, they're so brave. I get that. So I don't want people to think that we're judging. It's nothing against their bravery. Yeah. I know you're not saying. We need more, we need more brave people. If we need, you know, how many more people do we need? You know, what better plans do we need? What better resources do we need, et cetera? Because this president just frankly demands it thanks to the radicalism of the left. And I worry about when he's not president. Because if maximum security is still vulnerable, I worry when he's not. So I want to bring you to Iran. It looks like the president's latest message. It looks like there's starting to report some unrest within Iran, finally. We know it's there. I know how much courage it takes to go out in the street when you get shot on site or hung. But these people are standing beginning to royal and starting to take over the streets. I want to see more of that. But for the president, he says, get ready for a long blockade. Here's General Jack Keene, cut for.

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The Iranians, once again, are miscalculating when it comes to our president. I mean, clearly, they got something they did want. They closed down the straits of a move. What purpose was that? To stop the war. And the president saw it as an opportunity to go into negotiations. And then the Iranians' objective of the negotiations was to drag this thing out. And what he did is hit a blockade on top of their block. So now they can't get anything out. $400 million a day. They can't illegally move anymore. We're starting to crack down on their shadow fleet that Joe Biden just turned the other way on. Start down 34 entities did Scott Bessent. And it looks like, it looks like Ben, that the blockade, they're going to look to smother them and maximize the pain. How do you feel about that? Well, first off, I agree with General Keene, as per usual, but I will go a set further and say, you know, one of the things that I was hoping would emerge during this British state visit was more of an open conversation about the lack of support that we have seen from Europe. And the criticism most recently from Germany is another example of this. The fact that the president would be pursuing a policy that a lot of these nations, by the way, at least gave lip... service to in the past in terms of changes to the Iranian regime, criticism of the way that they treat their citizens, slaughtering, you know, in most recently, you know, tens of thousands of people, you know, in the streets who are protesting the regime. Like all of these different European leaders, they gave some form of criticism to that. But then when the president moves on it, when he actually does something about it to try to solve the problem and change the dynamic to end. a murderous regime that is funded terror and has the capability not yet to reach us, but to reach our allies in Europe. And you see that kind of response from them. I think that's a real problem, Brian. I think that that's something that needs to be, you know, addressed as well here. We need to be able to have shared interests and shared values and shared burdens when it comes to NATO. And I think that in this case, it just kind of revealed the truth of all the critiques that President Trump has made and not saying that. And, you know, again, I think NATO is necessary. If you replace NATO, you're just basically getting NATO 2.0 or what have you. But it's just the same kind of thing. But what you end up with is a situation where a lot of these people were putting out press releases, demanding things happen. And then when the president tries to make it happen, everyone is a critic. You know, Keir Starmer, you know, is someone who has not been supportive. And we haven't been able to have the kind of access of the kind of resources from the Europeans that I would like to see. given their security interest in the area. When it comes to the Iranians, I just think we still don't know who's in charge. There's still such back and forth there that...

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I'm not sure you can be talking to someone, you know, in the morning and have any confidence that he's going to be the same person in the evening. And that's a problem for the regime that is just one of the bugs for the kind of destruction that this Trump, that this Trump administration and that our military was able to wreak on the Iranian regime in, you know, in cooperation with Israelis in very short order. So Ben Dominic's got the big Ben show. It's got his podcast, but he's on with us now. First, Friedrich Merz is the person you were talking about. And he is the chancellor of Germany. Through a translator, I want you to hear what he said. I personally am outraged. And after speaking with the president, they're about to get hit pretty hard. And this is just, I take this. I actually, it's hard to not take this personal. Cut 11. At the moment, I cannot see what strategic exit the Americans are now opting for, especially as the Iranians are obviously negotiating very skillfully or rather very skillfully not negotiating in letting the Americans travel to Islamod only to leave again without any results. This entire nation is being humiliated by the Iranian state leadership, especially by these so-called Revolutionary Guards. humiliated Revolutionary Guards, a 21-hour meeting when they were doing infighting in front of us. And so that was humiliating? The IRGC humiliating the United States of America after the level of destruction that has been done to the, I mean, come on, people, you've seen the list of names. It just gets longer and longer. But that... I think you're right to feel insulted. This is the Michael Jim Jordan meme, and I took that personally for you, Brian. But I think that this is a situation that we have to understand. If we can't rely on the Europeans for help in something like this, where they have seen the maps, where they have seen how far those missiles can reach and that it can target their population centers, that it can actually go in and kill their people at will, we should be demanding so much more of them in this instance. And I think, you know, ultimately what we don't want to have happen is a situation where the Chinese and in anticipation of, you know, The delayed meeting with Xi Jinping used this as some kind of opportunity to broker a deal because I think that's something that is very much on the possibility range as something that could happen and would probably be bad for America in the long term. At the same time. I think the president's smart enough to reject any bad deal. He's shown us how demanding he can be when it comes to these negotiations. And he's shown his willingness to blow things up rather than accept something that the New York Times says he ought to accept. I'll tell you what, when the damn breaks and these guys aren't in power.

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In so much shape, before him, there's a lot of people they're going to owe the president an apology. And also, I agree. I agree. When you hit and you don't, do the president's unorthodox, Ben. You know that better than anybody. So we hit without briefing. But they watched our buildup in the region. They know what the president's done in the past. Come on. What do you think's going to happen? So you didn't know the day, but you knew the objective. And after you get over, your feelings being hurt. Now they're still ripping us. So I just, I don't like what I'm seeing. It's going to take a long way to get this back together. And I don't even see the general secretary of NATO saying anything, which is odd. Ben Dominic, thanks so much. Good look in your podcast today. Great to be with you. You got it. We're going to be back at a moment, 1-866-408-766. I'll have a few minutes to take your calls. And then we're going to get Israel's perspective on all this. Don't move. Politics, current events, and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmeade. Adobe Firefly is the all-in-one creative studio with AI-powered image and video editing for today's creative process. Built for creators of every kind, Firefly helps you generate, edit, and experiment fast, because the asks aren't getting smaller, the budgets aren't getting bigger, and the timelines, oh yeah, still tight. With all the best creative AI models in one place, Firefly brings your ideas to life. Unlock a better way to make with Adobe Firefly. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeade. Do you think AI is going to bring heaven or is AI going to bring hell? And the right answer is yes. It's going to bring both because what the digital revolution does is it accelerates almost everything about the human experience. Anything that can be reduced to a series of steps, which is most economic activity. is going to be routinized and become really, really cheap, really fast, and really ubiquitous. And so we're going to drive the cost of quantification either all the way to zero or so close to zero that we won't bother metering it anymore. We are going to have, I don't know if it's three years from now or 13 years from now, but we're all going to have a robot that builds robots for us. And so economics has historically been a discipline about scarcity, and we're going to deal with the problems of ubiquitous abundance. And that is really great at one level. At the level of consumption, we're all going to have lots and lots of stuff and lots of services. Uber for everything and Amazon for everything, and those things are going to become higher quality, cheaper, faster. But at the level of human meaning and production, it's...

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pretty scary to not know what you're going to do to add value for your neighbor 10 or 25 years from now. So that is Ben Sass sitting down on 60 minutes, expanding on where we're heading because he's got terminal cancer. And by the way, he's talking about some type of, a lot of people are asking me about this, some type of experimental medicine, right to try, and it's extending his life. And actually, it's causing some other after effects, but it's keeping him alive. He's obviously thinking clearly, but he's saying what a lot of people are worried about. And there's conference on this today about AI. Are they going to be wiping out all jobs? Or how many jobs are they going to be wiped out? Because they can do it. I mean, we already saw with entry-level jobs. But believe it or not, when it comes to unemployment in America, it's not really showing up yet in the numbers. Because there are other jobs opening as we experiment about what they actually could do. All right. So when we come back, we're going to talk to Michael Mikovsky, president, CEO of the Jewish Institute, or national security. Don't move.

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busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade. You believe the Iranians are serious about making a deal? I think the Iranians are serious to be getting themselves out of the mess that they're in. There are all the problems Iran had. They had riots a few months ago, and these were economic riots. All the problems that Iran had before the start of this conflict are still in place, and most of them are worse. And now they have half the missiles, none of the factories, and no Navy. If there is no deal, what comes next? Well, again, that's the president's decision to make. I would start out by reminding everybody that the level of sanctions on Iran are extraordinary, the pressure on Iran is extraordinary, and I think more can be brought to bear. But I hope that in the aftermath of this conflict, the whole world's eyes have been open to the threat Iran poses. So Marco Rubio, sitting down with Trey Yinks trying to explain. He doesn't give many interviews. Why he's very busy, number one. Number two, I cannot believe how many very important things that this Secretary of State is doing. Next up is Cuba. Well, let's talk about with front and center, and that's Iran. Michael Mikovsky joins us now, President CEO of the Jewish Institute for National Security, a leading Washington, D.C. based policy and education organization. Michael, where do you think we're at in this conflict? As the president, one thing he has confirmed is that he told everyone involved in the blockade, essentially the Navy, get ready for a longer blockade. Yeah, Brian, thanks for having me again. I think we're approaching, I think, soon a pivot point. There are a few ways this could go. Obviously, there's a negotiated deal, which I think is very unlikely, which we could talk about. We could continue with the blockade, or we could soon resume military action while maintaining the blockade. So what do you hope happens? I hope for the latter because I think if you want to end this ordeal, this war sooner, I think you're going to need to resume military action while maintaining the blockade. I give the president a lot of credit. I think the blockade, which, you know, my organization recommended like two months ago. I think has been very effective, but I remain wary that the Iranian leadership, such as it is, is still going to agree to an acceptable deal, a deal that's acceptable to President Trump. So I think for a couple of reasons. I think the nukes is the most important issue that they have to resolve. I don't see them giving that up or allowing America. or access to the facilities and able to extract the enriched uranium. And I also think because of the leadership problems, because which result from American Israel killing all the top leaders in Iran, I don't think there's a leader alive with the credibility to make the necessary concessions. You know, Ayatollah Khomeini,

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First leader of the Revolution of Iran, the leader of the Islamic Republic talked about basically drinking a poison chalice when they made a deal with Iraq to end that war in the late 80s. I don't think you have a leader right now that has that kind of credibility. to drink the poison chalice and make a deal with the United States? I guess so. I mean, the other thing is they might have to make a deal. I mean, you got to get to the point where they have to make a deal. That's the only thing besides without military pressure. So I think Scott Bessent, pressures on his shoulders. He's thought to shut down and sanctioned 34 agencies yesterday. And I think the blockade, I saw some video of a Chinese vessel getting through. I don't know. I have to trust what I see in social media. But I don't really hear much else happening about anything getting through. So the Iranians have nowhere to fill out. They pump their oil. They got nowhere to put it. So they're about to hit that they say with this week. Yeah, right. You're right. You could argue that. I mean, it's a legitimate approach and say, look, they have no choice. Let's just wait this out a little longer, which is a very, you know, President Trump might want to do and say, let's just play this out. Let's see how this week goes. Let's see if they resort to pressure. The thing is I still... I personally, first of all, any deal we cut with the Iranians, I wouldn't trust. So I'd only trust what we see that they're doing. So I wouldn't bank on any commitment about anything they're going to do going forward. I personally would prefer no deal. But if, again, the military pressure and the blockade is so great and it resolves the nuclear issue, I think it's... I think, you know, that would be great. I've just skeptical. I mean, if you're a senior Iranian leader and you're with the IRGC and they're the guys running things, they're the ones with the guns, I still think their gut is not to give up the nukes because that would be a tremendous capitulation, which they couldn't stomach. But they just try to write out because all they care about is staying in power. They don't really care about the people. See, I mean, you know all this, Michael, but it is not funding the proxies, the current uranium, and no program in the future. But what about this? This is cut nine. The people running the regime, the only objective is to survive and stay in power. The amount of economic peril that the blockade will put on Iran is real. Eventually, it could cause an economic collapse. But they don't care about the suffering of their people. Whether electricity is on or whether there's long gas lines or other economic plight that the people will suffer. They will not give in, in my judgment. What we need to do is finish.

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The objectives in terms of military objectives that have been assigned to the Israeli forces and to the American forces. And let's finish what we started. And he wants to finish by getting rid of their ballistic missile program. That was left out of the JCPOA. And that's what you guys got hit with in 2025. And that's what the whole region got hit with in 26. Yeah. Yeah, so first of all, as I know you agree, I think General Jack King is outstanding. Oh, the best. Yeah, he's the best. I completely agree. I think he's been outstanding on this and everything. So I agree with General King on this. I think the, I agree with him. I think it's unlikely they would cut a deal. that would give up their nukes. Again, an acceptable deal. And I think, therefore, I would up the pressure on the regime. You could wait a few more days. You say, let's see if the system gets so constipated that... because they can't, you know, they can't release the oil, they can't sell the oil, so they can't produce the oil and start hurting the fields, and it puts more of their oil workers and energy workers than anybody involved in exporting their oil out of work, which will raise the economic pressure. I do think probably my guess is that they'll be unlikely to cut a deal. It's possible, but I think it's unlikely. Therefore, if we resume military action, the value of that is we denigrate. their missile capability more. And I think the big question, if we do resume military action, will be the nukes. There's clearly a U.S. plan to deal with damaging, making inoperable, the nuclear facilities that are in Iran and extracting the enriched uranium. But it's obviously risky because you've got to create a security bubble. So if President Trump decides it's too risky, you can say, okay, fine, I'm going to weaken this regime. Enough. and I'm going to bond their ballistic missiles, et cetera. But I want to stop military action only when I leave the regime really weak. He could do that two ways. He could keep doing the blockade, or he could consider also taking out their oil export facilities. Because ultimately, I think the way this war is going to be, the final verdict on this war, I think is going to be made by the Iranian people. It could be months. It could be months. It could be. But you've got to plow the ground. to give them a shot so they're not slaughtered again? Exactly. We have to protect them, that they're not, and we have to set the conditions for them to weaken the regime. By the way, there are other ways to do it. One is obviously that economically debilitate the regime, which we're doing now with the blockade, and we could do even more if we, the risk of taking out their oil export facilities. It could lead the Iranians to attack even more vigorously, you know, the Emirati and the Saudi facilities.

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But you want to do, the Iranian people are going to be the ones that are going to bring down this regime. If they do that, then this war is a grand slam right now. Michael, Michael, what have you heard, because I hear the unrest is starting. Have you heard that significantly? And any significance? But I also hear that they're a little demoralized the people because when, you know, the U.S. government starts talking about, well, there is already regime change. I think it's important. I think it would be useful. And I think Trump has done a great job. But I think it would be useful to talk to the Iranian people again, like he did on the first day of the war on February 28th. And eventually say, look, you know, we support you. We're going to weaken this regime more, but then we're going to turn it over to you because this is a once-in-a-generation opportunity is what he said in February 28th. I think it's important that he makes sure to maintain the morale around people because I think they're the most powerful weapon we haven't unleashed yet. I hear you. I guess we'll see what happens because the Gulf states are going to be key because they're going to be targeted. And why do you think the UAE was targeted more than even Israel? It's a good question. First of all, I think because they had a lot of short-range missiles that, you know, and that are harder to stop. So I think that what Israel did in the 12-day war last year and what the United States and Israel did during this war is I think they've been hitting, especially a lot of the ballistic missiles, but they had a lot of short-range missiles. So one, I think it's just an easy target. Two, I think the Emirates represent everything the Iranians are not. in the Muslim world in the region. They're moderate. They have diplomatic relations with Israel. They basically, they want to, you know, it's been a great haven. Dubai has been such an unbelievably popular city for the rich and famous and others to go to. So, you know, they want to damage that, I think also. But I think what's interesting with the Emirates is throughout all this, they've stayed. with the Abraham Accords that President Trump brokered in 2020. They've maintained close relations. In fact, the Israelis have been recorded have sent troops and Iron Dome for the first time out of the country and help the Emirates defend against Iranian missiles. So they see the Israelis, I think. This war is clarifying their relationships. The Israelis stood by them. And by the way, the fact that they're leaving OPEC shows how they feel about the Saudis, which is not very positive, obviously. And they feel the Saudis have not been helpful enough to them. Do you think Israel has to make a choice between the Saudis and the UAE? No, I don't think so. I think they would welcome normalization with Saudi. That would be the ultimate goal here, I think. But there's no question I see closer Emirati Israeli relations coming out of this right now. Interesting. And the Israeli people, for the most part, I know you're not there right now, but for the early people, how do they feel?

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Because if this war starts again, you know, they were getting hit. Their missile defense, let's say they stopped 85%, 15% getting through. So how do they feel about it? Yeah, you have to feel like imagine, you know, it's hard for Americans, understand, thank God. But imagine taking your kids to shelters and safe rooms at 2 in the morning, 4 in the morning, so on, you know, because you got ballistic missiles coming at you. So the Israelis have dealt with a lot. But I think since October 7th, they've shown tremendous fortitude. And I think their attitude is let's just finish this already. And I think the Israeli inclination is no deal. Let's resume military action. I think they're right about that, by the way. Michael Mikovsky, we'll see what happens. Every day matters, and the president really is in charge. And I know Israel is a fantastic partner. Michael Mikovsky, thanks so much. Thank you for having me. Have a good day, Brian. You got it. 1866, 408-7669. Right now, the Secretary of War, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. need to reaffirm their budget. They're asking for $1.5 trillion next year. And then, of course, they're all talking about the war. Right now, Adam Smith is sparring with Pete Hegseth. We'll have some of that when we come back. Real talk, real guests, real insight, where curiosity meets conversation. It's the Brian Kilmeade. How can we help make stronger communities happen? Well, at J.P. Morgan Chase, we invest in what's working. Because when businesses can grow, that growth means more jobs for more people and more goods that can go to more restaurants and main streets and schools in the communities we love. Make the greengrass go all around, all around, make the greengrass go all around. Make momentum happen. Learn more at JPMorganchase.com slash impact. Information you want. Truth you demand. This is the Brian Kilmeade. We're going to need a deliberative republic again where people are able to do long-term processing of information about higher value things over lower value immediate things. And right now, we know that the average 15 to 35-year-old male is more likely to have current online gambling debt than to read a book this year. A republic actually requires people who do deliberative, long-form discourse, learning, humility, and community building. We're not doing that right now. More from Ben's ass. And he just talks in the big picture. By the way, he's been in before. Sadly, he's dealing with the terminal cancer right now. He's been in before, prime of his life, former football player. And he left. And he was clashing with Trump. Trump endorsed him. And they clashed. He's very typical of a traditional senator and didn't like some of the things that Trump was doing. And he just said, you know what, I'm out. And then he went, ran the University of Florida. And then this illness popped up.

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And I just think that he's also a deep thinker really knows history. And just as a real, and which is Steve Daines was on with us at an earlier hour, who came into Congress with him too. But it would be great if the Senate was actually a place to deliberate. But I'm going to add something else to on one nation on Sunday talking to Ryan's Prebis. And you talk about the attitude and the rhetoric in our country. And yeah, it's on both sides. Right now is clearly on the left. against the right. But the right is not without their firebrands. They'd call for extreme activity. But for the most part, I like the fact that they call them out. You know, if there are people out there like Alex Jay Jones, you have people and other people, you have, we'll call them out and say, listen, I don't, you know, is Nick Fuentes. I don't know who he is until people started pointing out how poor he was. And then the first time I heard about him when he showed up and had lunch with the president who did not know who he was, having said all that. The problem is in many ways social media. And the fact is the way you get paid in social media is you get clicks and the way you get paid with YouTube and everything else. You get clicks and people subscribe where they get clicks and you get money. So how do you do that? If you're saying, well, there's good ideas on both sides. I like what the Republicans are doing here, but I really like what Democrats are doing there. And I'd love to get this done on immigration. There are some legal immigrants here, but maybe we give them the dreamers. And in turn, we get the wall built and we make sure that everybody leaves and comes back to we're here in the last five years. But if you're over 20 years, you get to stay. If you go ahead and have that, if I give that video, it'll get almost no clicks. But if I go out, I want every single, every single leader I'm going out of here right now. And I'm calling for mass deportation. And I'm calling for violence. And that's what it'll take. I'm going to get a ton of clicks. There's going to be outrage. People are going to say, this is irresponsible. But people are going to get clicks. And I'm probably going to have more people follow me. This is Hasan Piker. People say, well, I don't know. I don't like anything what he says. But there's got to be a reason why he's popular. I'll go on his podcast. So as long as that's the formula. That's going to be the issue. Other people have brought up, like General Petraeus, who has talked about, a military guy talked about our political process. And he said, the problem is the primaries. In the primaries, you got to be extreme right or extreme left. You know, you all those show of hands of everybody wants to buy, ban oil and gas, everyone hands go up, go on the right, who wants to kick out of every illegal immigrant, every hand goes up. So to become a party nominee, you've got to be cookie cutter exactly what the platform says and to the right of that platform. So when those nominees emerge as the candidates for president, for Senate, for any significant office, they're most likely going to be in the extreme. And the person who doesn't show a lot of hate, who doesn't deliver a lot of passion throwing against. is going to have a hard time emerging. You have the deep thinker who might be a fantastic governor but isn't a great candidate. You don't have the whole package, but you can still get elected. When the age of the eyes and the age of the social media.

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The person who doesn't have a great personality, but is a fantastic resume, but who doesn't say extreme things, right or left, is probably not going to get the nomination until we demand something different. Maybe we could work on the algorithms and the media companies to stop paying people for the number of clicks, but then again, you don't get people on your platform because people are hungry for money, capitalist behavior. But we're in a tough spot. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox Newswineshop.com with code FN Radio 20. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 order to order. Please drink responsibly. Maya Top Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sewing division. It's Brian Kilmeade. So glad you there. It's the Brian Kilmeade coming away in the final hour of a very, very busy day. Right now our Secretary of War and Joint Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are sparring on Capitol Hill. They're talking budgets. They're talking war. They're talking operations in Venezuela. And they're not like what Pete has to say, but he's not going to be intimidated by anybody on that panel. And there are some questions he, I can't wait for him to answer. I mean, number one, to see if Democrats look at you in the eye and say it's not a, Iran's not a problem. This operation wasn't necessary. This is a war of choice. It's a joke. When you know, I think he did his homework, too. Most of them are on the record talking about different things that Iran has done and what they need to be confronted. Meanwhile, this hour I'll be joined by Daniel Turner, founder of energy advocacy, group, power, and future. Why that's important? UAE has just bowed out of OPEC. What we have to do with that, what the impact's going to be, and what that says about the region, too, as it could be get ready for war. Before we get to Colorado, let's get to the big three. Number three. Ken, you're going to go ahead with your building in New York? Well, you know, I'm meeting with the governor Thursday. Is New York going to put their fiscal house in order and run itself from a position of a strong government that's pro-business? Ken Griffin, CEO, very successful. Might be run out of New York. He talked about this from Jon Ossoff, Norway yesterday. Capitalist slap back. Socialist lawmakers getting pushback from the most successful who have been villainized. They're not taking it. What their plan is in response in New York and in California. Number two. The Secret Service Director is saying this publicly, so I'm not saying anything he didn't say in private, but that it went according to plan, that, you know, if someone breached it, they were going to have to go in through a room full of armed guards before they got into the banquet hall. I don't know that that's the best strategy. That's the chairman of oversight, James Comer, correspondence center shooting investigation front and center, as Secret Service tries to piece together the assassin.

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the Secret Service reaction, and the guns that did the shooting, and who got shot? Number one. Look what they've done with the Straits. Great example. The Straits is basically the equivalent of an economic nuclear weapon that they're trying to use against the world. And they're bragging about it. Imagine if those same people had access to a nuclear weapon, they would hold the whole region hostage. That is true, Marco Rubio digging in. Trump tells Navy, the Navy to plan for a longer blockade as Scott Bessent takes over the war reigns by bleeding them dry through financial sectors and sanctioning those who are doing deals with Iran. Will this bring the mullahs to their knees? Let's discuss that with Karl Rowe, former deputy chief of staff, senior advisor to President George W. Bush. Carl, the president's made that clear, even though everything's fluid. He's going to extend the blockade, be ready to stop everything. You see what's happening with their inflation. You see what's happening with their job loss. What do you think about that step and the chances of us going back to battle? Well, I think the president's right. You know, you cannot leave the Iranians in control the straight of her moves, that they would turn it into a gigantic money machine. and use those monies not to alleviate the problems of their civilian population, but to rebuild their military might in the nuclear program. So God bless him for hanging tough on this. And frankly, the UAE move is a sign of the strength of the administration's approach. They have signed the Abraham Accords with Israel. They are strong advocates and allies of the United States. They have been taking steps to make themselves less relying upon the straits by building pipelines that allow them to bypass the straits. And they also don't like being bossed around by their neighbors. So, you know, I took that as a good sign. And both of those things is a good sign. President saying, we're going to hang tough on the blockade and the UAE saying we're out of OPEC. I want you to hear from the energy minister himself, cut 17. We believe that the world is currently under supplied, and our exit at this time is the right time for it. So what he's going to do is he doesn't want to be constrained by what OPEC says. And that's Saudi Arabia has the biggest stick there. And they're going to go over the capacity. Now think about this, Carl, I know you have. So if you want to up the amount of energy coming out of your country, gas, as well as oil, what does OPEC do? What do we do? So do we match that? Do we match that? Or does, do they start cashing in on that? Yeah, well, remember what the purpose of OPEC was. It was to basically limit the production of oil producing countries in order to keep prices high. And the UAE is saying, we don't like being bossed around by our neighbors. We want to supply the market. We want to become known as a more reliable source. And so, you know, we're out. And the United States was never a member of OPEC.

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We benefited from them keeping prices high. But the American producer is so much more productive. And even with high cost projects in Alaska, we're undercutting what OPEC countries can do with lower lifting costs. Easier for them to get the oil out of the ground than it is us. But we are that much more productive as producers than OPEC. So yeah, I think this is a big move. Look, we should not underestimate that this is still a very difficult and important contest that is going to take the will of the United States to stay engaged. We have faced this problem for 47 years. We do not want a nuclear armed Iran. And the president is absolutely right. It is in our interest to remove that threat once and for all. The way to do that, frankly, is regime changed. And that's going to have to bubble up from the people in Iran. I've been reading some of the internet postings. that have been collected by the Bush Center in Dallas, which has been taking extraordinary efforts to allow Iranians to have episodic access to the Internet. Wait, really? Can you share that with us? Can tell me about it? Oh, yeah. It's unbelievable. I mean, what you see is the ordinary Iranians who are availing themselves of this say, we want the regime to be changed. We want freedom. We want to live in a peaceful society, not one whose principal goal is the creation of a weapon of destruction. And we're willing to tolerate what we are going through. It's horrible. It's terrible. We worry about our families, the security and safety of our families. But we are living in hell. And we have been for years. And the only way to change our lives is to change the regime. It's pretty remarkable stuff coming in of Iran. And we need to do more of this soft power stuff. One of the things the president ought to be doing is making certain that we have am. up everything that we can. I used to be on the board for international broadcasting, the oversaw Radio for Europe and Radio Farsi. And we used to have a very robust set of programming for Iran. And that over the years has been diminished and was, unfortunately, under this administration by Kari Lake, largely gutted. And that's the way that we need to get, we need to ramp that up so that people, you know, can hear through shortwave radio and through the internet if they can get access. to it about what's really happening because that gives the people of iran confidence that we stand with them in this terrible struggle in which they're involved so michael allen weighed in on fox news at night about what else uh are we might be we might be uh willing to do and if it's something we've done before i believe we have cut 13 I don't think they have a lot of regard for helping their people through this. If it's true, however, that they're not going to compromise because of the blockade of our ports, I think the president's going to have to decide, do I mount an escort mission to bring convoys of commercial vessels, especially oil tankers, through the Straits of Hormuz. It's a lot riskier.

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We have to worry about the drones. We have to worry about other kind of missiles. But it's something we've got to seriously consider. We did it last time in the 80s. And we might have to do it this time to open things back up because they don't feel like compromising. So the escorting of ships, I know we know how to do it. We want to clear the place first with a minesweeper, though, right? Right. Well, I think you've got to do two or three things. One is you've got to have, you've got to remove the mines. You've got to attack and destroy as many of the small swift boats that they have, that they used, the mosquito navy. And then you have to have an overwatch. You need to have, you know, aerial overwatch that is able to, if they begin to make a move towards a convoy or towards an individual ship, you have to have the ability to destroy those vessels that they, the mosquitoes, if you will. that they're using to harass the shipping channels. So I guess we'll see what goes on back to war for that. So now we see some sparring going on on Capitol Hill because Democrats are pretending as if now the Iranians were fine. We're the ones who had the problem. But I want you to hear with the Chancellor of Germany said, cut 11. At the moment, I cannot see what strategic exit the Americans are now opting for, especially as the Iranians are obviously negotiating very skillfully or rather very skillfully not negotiating and letting the Americans travel to Islamad only to leave again without any results. This entire nation is being humiliated by the Iranian state leadership, especially by these so-called Revolutionary Guards. I was stunned by the insult there. I mean, if you want to tell me that it came at, that was a report. report and it came out of a private conversation. You can be candid. You know that. But to put that public that we're being humiliated. Yeah. Yeah. I think Chancellor Friedrich Merz was, you know. speaking inappropriately, maybe he was trying to provoke the United States into remaining strong, but that's not the way that you go about doing it. And he's right. They are, he's right in this sense. They really are signaling to the United States. We don't give a rat's ass. And until we, until they feel like they have to, we are not to be trying to be trying to meet with them. You don't want to be with us. Fine. We're going to go destroy some more of your military facilities and security people. So I want you to switch totally and talk a little about the socialists amongst us. One is running the city I'm in right now, New York City, called out Ken Griffin in a ridiculous, embarrassing video because he has a second home year worth. $300 million. So we got to tax these guys more. Well, it turns out he's put hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars into charities here. By buying that home and having that home, he's put billions of dollars into our tax base. And he's about to invest $6 billion into bringing another office, filling up another office building of people from Citadel. And you know how it works. Those people need jobs. Those people need apartments. Those people go out to dinner. Those people need furniture.

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and spoke, was asked about this in Jon Ossoff, Norway, cut 29. What upset me was the actual, the personal attack. Like, we're, you, you were at the White House correspondence dinner on Saturday where they tried to assassinate the president. And not too far for where I live in New York is where they assassinated the CEO of United Healthcare. So I think the willingness of the mayor of New York to make this a policy debate, a personal attack, just demonstrated a profound lack of judgment. Just a profound lack of judgment. And he went on to say this, cut 30. Ken, you're going to go ahead with your building in New York? Well, you know, I'm meeting with the governor Thursday. Okay, you'll figure it out. And we'll talk about our future direction in New York. Here's the real question. Is New York going to put their fiscal house to order and run itself from a position of a strong government that's pro-business? Or are they looking to play? Why do the Americans think we can do socialism? Like we have none of that in our DNA, and we're just going to screw it up. So, Ken, Carl, he belongs in Texas and Florida and Tennessee. But what do you think he should do? Well, I'd move. I mean, he moved out of Chicago and the company did not falter because people said, people who worked for him said, Ken, you're right. Our lives will be better. And I think there ought to be a price to be paid by for Zohran Mamdani for having insulted him and having gone out of his way to encourage class hatred. I mean, really, when did, at what level do we feel free to start criticizing people for being too successful? You know, oh, you've been too successful. You've created too many jobs, too much wealth for others, too many opportunities for people who would otherwise not have them. And you've invested in American businesses and worldwide businesses and made the America more prosperous and more competitive and created greater opportunities and helped us remain as the most prosperous big nation in the face of the planet. So we're going to condemn you and attack you, you know, what a small-minded individual Zohran Mamdani is. What does he think gave him the right to pick somebody out of the crowd and go after him in such personal way? I mean, you know, Ken Griffin was not about political power. He was about creating prosperity and jobs. And rather than attacking him, the mayor of New York would be smart to say, how can you bring more jobs, high paying good jobs to New York for our people? And instead, you know, he's going just the opposite. He deserves, the mayor deserves to have every rebuke from everybody he attacks that he does attack. So Carl, I'd tell you, I never met him. But if I see people that are really successful, you know, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, these guys, number one, I appreciate what they did. I also appreciate the risks they took. How many times hours they spent away from their family in order to follow in and have a vision? How much sacrifice and personal risk do they take, you know, to go ahead and hire people? How many lives have they affected? So because they're wealthy, they can buy an island, they could buy Manhattan Island because they do that. And by the way,

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Who do you think gives the majority to charities and foundations? Who do they go to all the time? I want to cultivate those people. That's what Governor Perry did. And he started this, and Governor Rick Scott did. They would come right to New York and say, guys, you're not being appreciated. Look at how much money you're wasting in tax. I'll give you this building. I want you there. Bring your employees. They're going to buy houses. They're going to have yards. They're going to need landscapers. Their kids are going to go to school. And we're going to grow. did it. Both states did it. So now in New York, they elected people that are going to make things worse. Yeah. Well, in California, Texas is going to probably within the next couple of decades past California in terms of population. Why? Because we're a dynamic growing state where people say, I want an opportunity. And we've got people who are helping them get those opportunities. And you know, look, this guy, this, your mayor, I shouldn't say your mayor because he's not, he's the mayor of New York. He is a small-minded guy in a way because he thinks everything can be achieved through socialism when in reality things need to be created and achieved through the actions of free individuals in an economy and a country that allow them to dream big, work hard, and be rewarded. Governor Kathy Hochul is going to meet with him. Remember, she was the one who told everyone, go to Palm Beach if you don't like it here. And then she says, come back from Palm Beach. And now she's going to. now because she's trying to win an election, which I hope she loses to Bruce Brickman, but she's trying to win an election. She's trying to make sure he stays. Thanks so much, Karl Rove. Always educational to have you on. Always great having you on Zoom, too. There we go. Here we are from my secret layer. Right. I will not go in front of your house and say anything negative and put it on TikTok, I promise. Back in a moment. There we go. Bye. Learning something new every day on the Brian Kilmeade. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmeade. It is a particular pleasure to be back in this wonderful building, the heart of your democracy. On this occasion, I cannot help noticing the readjustments to the east wing, Mr President. Following your visit to Windsor Castle last year. And I'm sorry to say that we British, of course, made our own small attempt at real estate redevelopment of the White House in 1814. And that is totally true. And that is King. That is the King speaking yesterday. And we are listening to him talk about the war of 1812. When two years into the war, they burned the White House to the ground. And that's where they were. When I'm doing a book called United States, and one of it is the burning, one of those are burning of Washington, Madison's War. And James Madison declares war on Britain. After all, they were just taking our ships.

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grabbing our sailors, saying they're really British anyway, paying off the American Indian tribes to foment unrest to the Midwest as we try to expand. We had no choice. So Madison says, let's go to war, but we were not ready, no standing army ready to go. And we had the whole eastern seaboard open. Can you imagine how traumatic that was to see the White House burned? And one archway remains of the White House that is still the original archway and shows the burn marks from that day. Pretty extraordinary dinner last night. Talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kilmeade. Look what they've done with the Straits. Great example. The Straits is basically the equivalent of an economic nuclear weapon that they're trying to use against the world. And they're bragging about it. They're putting up billboards in Tehran bragging about how they can hold 25% or 20% of the world's energy hostage. Imagine if those same people had access to a nuclear weapon, they would hold the whole region hostage. Does anyone doubt that? Now, Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, that's the one thing. It hit the Gulf states, and it definitely complicated things for us. But it just told the Gulf states who your enemy is. What did you do? You stayed out of it like you should. You didn't advocate for war, although behind the scenes, Saudis were saying, get it done. And now you say, okay, we know exactly what happened. Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, Turkey. Most of all, UAE and Saudi Arabia have all been hit there. And a lot of their vital infrastructure has been damaged. And because of that, oil and gas is definitely affected. Prices go up, but you have this trade of removes shut down, and that is really affecting the whole world, even when you think about what else comes through there, like fertilizer. Daniel Turner, founder of Energy Advocacy Group, Power the Future, joins us now. So Daniel, how stressful have things been on the global market since this war started? Oh, very much so. And, you know, it's hard to absorb these prices for the foreseeable future. I think any market, especially one as robust as the American economy, can absorb high oil prices for a couple of weeks because it drops, right? And then you say, wow, that really stunk last week. I had to fill up my car. It was expensive, but things go back to normal. But we're hitting a 60-day mark. And it doesn't seem to have a very near end in sight. I hope it does. And it will start having more and more of an impact the longer it gets dragged out. So the president's constantly meeting with energy executives. In fact, it just happened again yesterday. Find out what they could do in terms of production knowing it's a global market. What are you hearing and what are they doing? Could they be doing more to keep the prices down while still keeping the pressure on Iran? No, there's nothing really more we can do on our side because it's not a production problem. It's not a supply problem. It is the jitters of these straits and the inability to get oil and gas through there and get it to all of its ports. And so, yes, we are exporting and trying to backfill, but there's only so much oil we can produce and we need it here too. There's a phenomenon in oil and gas markets, which is demand destruction. And that's where we're headed forward. And what that means is that if oil stays really high for a long time, it alters people's behavior. And people stop, you know, they won't go on a summer road trip. They won't buy a plane ticket. And then the demand for oil eventually begins to slow down. And recovering from demand destruction is a lot harder and a lot more expensive than what we're seeing right now. So that's what the markets are. That's what the industry is really afraid of is the long-term damage to demand because we're starting to price ourselves.

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out of consumer ability to afford this product. Maybe it gets people into electric cars, but we know what the grid is fueled by. That's usually fossil fuels. Yeah, that's a great point. And this is one of my favorite quotes of all time from Thomas Seoul, the great American economist, is there aren't really solutions. There are tradeoffs, right? And so the Biden administration sent us EVs or put EVs before us as a solution, but they're not. They're a tradeoff, right? They're made from oil and gas, and they run on a grid, which is burning gas and coal. So it really didn't solve a problem. It just used oil and gas in a different way. There is no way to stop using oil and gas. Even people who are saying, well, you know what, we need to build more wind and solar. They're made from oil and gas, right? So we're using oil and gas differently. We're not using any less of it. Yeah, it's incredible. What's going on? But right now, where is it at today? Do you know? 105 last right before I came on the program is West, West Texas, WTI, West Texas Intermediate. And that's unsustainable for a long term, right? Because it will start impacting the way people behave. And that will have demand destruction. Now, I'm still going to say for the long term, this is good, right? We need to, as Marco Rubio just said in that clip you played before I came on, right? There is long term. Islamic threat that we are eliminating. And that is good for the world. But right now, it's costing us. And, you know, I saw United Airlines, for example, say they were raising prices 20%. That will impact how people travel. You know, maybe you're going to bring your kid to school in September, but maybe mom's not going to go. Or maybe mom and dad aren't going to go. Just the kid's going to go because you can't afford three tickets, right? So that demand destruction means we're going to stop. producing oil and gas or exploring for more because there's no demand. And so that's where we're headed. That's got people more and more nervous. What about UAE leaving OPEC? Is that a good thing? Huge. Yeah, this is great. Right. And I think this is a great philosophical conversation. You know, I wish we could, I wish we could do this with like a cigar and a glass of bourbon, like at a fire pit, because these are the lofty conversations, which I love about your show and podcasts in general. But there is a global phenomenon of these global entities breaking down, right? The United States is looking at NATO and saying, huh, our interests and NATO interests aren't aligning. What are we doing? Right? You look at a country like Hungary and Poland, and they say, we're in the European Union, but our interests are not aligned, right? So what's happening in UAE is they're saying, we're part of OPEC. But our interests are not aligned. We're producing three million barrels. We can produce five, but OPEC tells us we can't. Why are we part of OPEC? Who gets to decide our industry? Us or a bunch of, you know, Ayatollahs in Vienna, which always makes me laugh. OPEC's headquartered in Vienna. So this is an alignment of saying we want our nation to be more important. than this globalist entity. So there's a lot of global entities breaking down right now. It's fascinating. So Daniel, tell me, we've kind of taken our eyes off Venezuela, but you haven't. So tell me how they're adapting to Western investment.

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Last I heard there were five American companies who were already active there. I know a number of oil and gas CEOs who are going down quietly for multiple reasons, right? There are security concerns. There are economic concerns. If someone saw the CEO of Brian Kilmeade Oil going to Venezuela, you know, that has implications to you and your stock and your company. So this is happening very quietly. But. By God, it is happening. And Venezuela, it's easier to produce more oil and gas on wells already drilled than to drill new ones. So Venezuela has an infrastructure. They can get to 5 million barrels a day pretty quickly with investment in American technology. And that will be a huge play for the Western Hemisphere, for America's interests. and really, really bad for communist China, who's not going to have this supply of constant oil coming from Maduro. So I'm reading this story about Thailand, and they consider us an ally, and they are running out of oil and gas. And they said the U.S. hasn't done anything for them. I mean, is there things we can do without blowing up the global market? I mean, there are special? things that you could supply. I mean, when there's natural disasters hit and things of that nature, this is a war disaster. What could we do for our countries that are, especially in the Pacific? If we were in better shape and we had 800 million barrels on our strategic petroleum reserve, we could do something like that, right? I'm not positive of the numbers. I've got to think, but I'll just give it a rough example, right? We use 20 million barrels of oil a day. That's a lot. The United Kingdom uses 1.8. That's nothing compared to what we use. How many oils does barrels of oil does Thailand use a day? I don't know the number off the top of my head. I'm going to ballpark. If the UK is one point something, I'm going to ballpark it at 200,000, right? Imagine if we had 800 million barrels in the reserves that we could take care of our allies. But right, but we don't have the reserves because Biden drained them for the 2022 midterms. We don't talk a lot about that. It's a lot of... It's a lot of math, right? And our Congress members don't like math and they don't like facts. You saw that Rosa Doloro clip from yesterday, right? They like to scream about climate change. But this is a real problem we inherited from the Biden years. We don't have a huge supply in reserves because Biden drained it. So there's not much we can do right now, and that's not our fault. That's Biden's fault. Well, I guess we're going to see what's going to happen. In terms of how strong that blockade is, this might not be in your ballpark, but I'll just try you. Do we know anything that's going in and out? We know that Scott Bessent is trying to stop the shadow fleet of tankers, which shuts off as transponders, tries to stay off the grid as they deliver oil and gas to Cuba and places like China. And Iran's doing a lot of that. Venezuela used to. I hope that's in the past tense. I wouldn't know. Have we had success sealing making that a solid blockade? They're really quiet about this. And I think for strategic reasons, I think they're making it very clear. They know what's getting through and what's not, and they're selecting it. But, you know, just looking at the geography of that region and having been to that region a bunch.

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right, at its point where ships can pass, right? The straits at its narrowest point is maybe 35, 30 miles. But many of those miles are marshes, right? So where the ships can actually pass, we're talking about 15 miles. If the U.S. Navy can't shut down and monitor 15 miles, we've got a really big problem, right? So they know exactly what is going on there. What they're disclosing to the world is very different. And I'm sure they are letting through certain ships. No transponders, keeping it quiet, and stopping others. So I think they're being cagey deliberately, but there's no way in hell ships are getting through that we don't know about. Daniel Turner, yeah, founder of an energy advocacy group called Power the Future. Thanks, Daniel. Look forward to, you know, look forward to seeing where we go from here because energy could bring them to the table legitimately. Daniel, thanks. Yeah, of course, Brian. Thank you. You got it. 1-866408-7669. We'll have some highlights. We think from Pete's testimony when we get back and so much more. A little bit of sparring going on. Don't move. Where big stories meet bigger conversations. Stay informed and energized with the Brian Kilmeade.

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show like no other. It's Brian Kilmeade. Sponsored by Previgin. Previgin, made for your brain. This is a city which symbolizes a period in our shared history, or what Charles Dickens might have called, a tale of two Georges. You recently commented, Mr. President, that if it were not for the United States, European countries would be speaking German. Dare I say that if it wasn't for us, you'd be speaking French. Because, it took me a second. It's because if Britain wasn't a dominant power, the French would have been because they were the two powers of those days. And that's why the French combined with us to help win the Revolutionary War. And the French also, the French also, we fought against them in the French Indian War. So we fought with the British 20 years prior. And then we fought against the British in 1776, finishing up in 1783 in the Battle of Yorktown. And then next thing you know, in 1789, we got to come back again with the Constitution and then we end up with the president. And then we really hit the ground running. Next thing you know, 36 years after 1776, we're fighting them again in the war of 1812. So this time without the French, and this time without really a standing army, we had to make the immediate adjustment. So I was kind of cool to see the king. Because you get to see the king, and he kept referring to the fact they burned the White House down, which they did. We had the Revolutionary War, which happened. Then you look out on the White House lawn. Of course, there was no White House back then. They would choose that, and John Adams would be the first to be in there. They go out there. It used to be all marshes, they said, and it was just a horrible mosquito-filled place, but it was a compromise area, which never should have been a state and never should be a state.

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They burned the White House down. It was just getting its feet underneath them. And they burned down the Capitol building, which is underappreciated. And we had to start all over again. But the way we fought, the way it ended, we would never have to fight Britain again. But we went over that yesterday. And as great as those days were, and it fantastic, the Zenus was World War II. Britain's got something like 23 ships in their Navy. They used to be the best Navy in the world. They're not even close. They're not even in the Navy. They have very little army. Their economy is rotted away. And if you want to say that Trump's been a little harsh with them, sure. You could say that. And you write verbally. But when you talk about a country who stood by them lately, Donald Trump, not Barack Obama, was the one who supported them through Brexit. Donald Trump is the one who said, I want to do a trade deal with you and did it. It was the first one out of the box. You know who said they never do it? Go to the back of the queue, which is a British term for the back of the line. That was Barack Obama. So Donald Trump was saying, hey, we'll build an alliance. I know you lost the European connection because you wanted to. The people voted for it. We know the adjustment's got to be tough. We'll be there and they were. And now we have a situation where this guy goes to see a lawyer when we're fighting Iran, which in 2010, they said it's been a persistent enemy of the state in Britain and remains a persistent enemy today. And they say that. No diplomatic relations, persistent enemy, constantly taking our ships, harassing our people, holding our guys hostage. Got it. They fought with us. They lost 113 guys, I think, in Iraq. They fought with us in Iraq. And guess who? died and got wounded in Iraq. Brits fight great. And they were wounded. Anything with the roadside bomb came from Iran. And then the EFP specifically are Iranian made and planted. Those are essentially roadside bombs on steroids. So why Britain and Germany and all these other countries are meeting without us talking about the damage is done and how America's really isolated? Okay, we're going to have the same verdict with or without you. It would have been a lot easier with you, especially when it comes to escorting ships to focus on the blockade. But you don't have them doing that. Why? I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that they just have nothing. Germany, we know. had nothing, and they're building up like crazy. And I think that's great. But France, embarrassing. Britain, embarrassing. Where they're at right now, Riza Pilavi, he's the Shah's son, has a lot of connections in there, trying to get back into his credit, putting his life at risk and speaking up and speaking out. Cut ten. The regime doesn't care about the Iranian people. If it did, it would not have brought us to a point of complete collapse, isolation as a result of their warmongering and terrorism. But the boots on the ground have always been and should be the people of Iran themselves. But they need extra help. And I totally agree that staying the course is the best remedy. Keep the pressure on them.

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Target the regime's infrastructure. Make sure the people of Iran have now a chance to finally come back to the streets. Let's not leave this job half done. Let's go all the way. Yeah, I mean, that means going back. So the blockade stays. If a few days go by, and if they do not come to the table and come to the table coherently. For example, when they talk about the president of Iran coming to the table, the guys like the King Andrew doesn't have any power. I mean, he's got some influence now because we killed the Ayatollah, and 40 to 50 to 60 to 70 of their leaders. A lot of military leaders, too, head of their Navy. But, you know, the president's more ceremonial. La Rajani, the guy with the big mouth, lounging off, saying walking through Tehran a few days after the bombings, saying, look, it's safe here and it's laughing. Dead the next day. Today going on right now, we're finding out the latest, we'll find out the latest on the Secret Service. They're talking, giving some idea of what went wrong and what went right in the Saturday attacks. James Comer on the objective, cut 18. First of all, I have a lot of strategy questions because, you know, I think the Secret Service Director is saying this publicly, so I'm not saying anything he didn't say in private, but that it went according to plan, that, you know, if someone breached it, they were going to have to go in through a room full of armed guards before they got into the banquet hall. I don't know that that's the best strategy. So we'll see what happens today. I don't think this will be contentious. I think it's going to be interesting because the president's not mad, but he can't be thoroughly happy. I know the Trump family is not happy. Listen, I hope to see you in person. My next opportunity will be May 30th, Reno, Nevada, History, Libyan laughs on stage. Then July 11th in Pensacola, Florida, it'll be fantastic. Then Red Bank, New Jersey, October 16th. The 17th in Westbury, New York. United States Tour. That's my new book you can pre-order. November 7th, Clearwater, November 8th, Jacksonville.