"Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory?" Marc Thiessen’s Brutal Warning on the Iran Deal

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A couple of things. Talk to the president. And every time he talks to them, he tells him, basically, I think you're crazy. And they're all over the place. We know the president of Iran met with the so-called new supreme leader. The son banged up after the big attack to start this whole thing off and the death of his dad and his wife. And I think his kids. But he's been killing so many people right now. I believe there's more than an eye for an eye. He doesn't have enough eyes to give. So you lost a leg. That's good news. So the president of the United States says this, need all the uranium out. And they talk about downblending it and moving it. Believe it or not, Russia might be a destination for it. We don't care how much more uranium Russia gets. So number two, they can't do have any nuclear program for 20 years. They want to knock it down to. They had with the JCPOA, 3.6 with Barack Obama. He's going to get zero, and he's going to get 20 years, and see what happens in between. Then they want a real unblockade, slowly release the blockade of the strait, and then we're going to release our blockade of the blockade. Okay, it's reasonable. What I think the problem is the frozen funds. We cannot give these people huge sums of money. They're not going to bail at their people. They're not going to build track homes. They're going to get more missiles. How do we know that? What they do last time? With the billions of dollars we got to get our hostages out and with the billions of dollars in the JCPOA, we saw the pallets of cash. That is not a catchphrase. They actually did that. So what I'm beginning to find out and talking to the president, they are hurting. Now, I don't have a window into Tehran. I read the Tehran Tom's, which at times, which is like a press release for the evil government. And the word is, as bad as things were before, with inflation at over 100%, the diminutive standard, their money standard, which is the real. And with the fact that there was no water even in the capital, These people lost a million or two million jobs since this all started. Now they can't ship out oil. How do I know they can't ship out oil? Because they tried to move it and we stopped it. So we wanted to see how, they wanted to see how desperate we were to get a deal. And I don't think desperate at all. But we do want to land this plane and get the market back to normal. Why? Because president's got a midterm to win. Yes, even though six months is a lifetime. We've gone over 50,000 just on the speculation that the strait's going to move up. Here's the president cut one. Now we're doing well. Now we have to get what we have to get. If we don't do that, we'll have to go a big step further. But with that being said, they want to make a deal. We've had very good talks over the last 24 hours. And it's very possible that we'll make a deal. So, you know, look, the president's selling. He's always selling. People say he's lying. He's not lying. He's selling. You push things. You get the public pressure to go back on them. And our Gulf states are under pressure because with those drones that they have, the Shahid drones that we should have known was so effective for Russia, we should have known they would have been effective for the people that came up with them. Shahid drones are Iranian drones. And they're able to do some damage in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, especially the UAE. And after we put in Operation Freedom,

It was very effective and we're opening up the Oman side of the strait, but they started bombing the UAE and then threatening others. And there's Gulf State said, and Pakistan asked, can you release that and let's get back to talks. But if you think about it, freedom did its job in one respect. It's additional leverage. It's additional leverage. So can you stop doing that? Yes. But if you didn't start doing it, they would have nothing. And then when we take it away, that shows that we're giving. Here's Mike Waltz, Ambassador Mike Waltz, on what China can do because we're supposed to meet next week and China gets 90% of Iranian's oil. They buy 90% of it. Cut four. We do see some movement. Number one, because of the blockade that President Trump, I think, frankly, brilliantly put in place, it was China that was buying 90% of Iran's illegal, sanctioned oil. Now it no longer has access to it. And so the Chinese economy is now being affected by this blockade. So Ambassador Mike Waltz all in on that, former national security advisor. You know his military strategy, he understands diplomacy, just a great package overall. So I worry like you worry. I want the president to have a great outcome because he took, had the great courage. And I would give Joe Biden or Bill Clinton the same support. He's taking on an enemy of America who sends terrorists here who kill our guys in battle in the region. They take our hostages constantly. They're always trying to undermine us and undermine Israel. Every day, they get up and do that. And they get money to foment that. And their money that goes to the proxies of Islamic jihad, Hamas, and Hezbollah is caused most of the unrest. So we'll see where this goes. And I am optimistic that we're going to learn something from this war. We're pulling the USS Gerald R. Ford out, and they've been out for hundreds of days. And I feel bad for those people on the aircraft carry, although they have not complained. But what I think they have to find out is we have to get a defense missile system that's cost effective. The THAAD missile system's brilliant. The Patriot missile system's fantastic, but it's just too expensive. And especially if what's going to penetrate, if you have a swarm of drones and you have one interceptor of the Patriot, it'll knock out when it's supposed to knock out. And it'll certainly get the missile. But it's not being able to knock out all the drones. And the drones are doing some damage. So it's got to be drone to drone. And guess who can make more drones quicker than anybody else in the world? It is Ukraine. The innovation that they've put together through the fantastic engineering under pressure has been just a wonder for the world to see. They're going to be the exporter of drones. And I'm not sure the president has a problem with Ukraine. I don't know what it is. I think it goes back to the original impeachment. But that Volodymyr Zelensky's leadership. His leadership allowing these engineers to show their resourcefulness and resiliency to say, okay, this is where the shooting analysis has had to stop it.

And then say, this is how to hit their refineries. Well, they don't want to, Joe Biden didn't want to sell him the high mars. He sold him the high mars. He didn't want to sell him the attackums. He sold him the attackers or gave him the attackers. And this president's reluctant with long-term with long-range missiles. Why? Because you can get right into Moscow. And he said, look, you know, not really into giving people rockets to hit their capital. So they came up with their own. And we should learn from that and put that right into, right into. our arsenal immediately with some of these cutting edge Silicon Valley defense firms. Maybe not the big ones. The big ones license to the small ones and the small ones innovate and then they give it to mass manufacturing. We might get to the point and I think we have to where we've got to convert some of these and we'll pay for some of these auto manufacturers into missile production plants. I just do. I also want to go over. I don't want to take up too much time from Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, but I also got to go over this hour, the mayor's debate yesterday. It was real, it was authentic, and it was way overdue. You see these Democrats in these blue cities just spout their rhetoric and pretend they're doing a good job and they run unopposed. That's not happening. In Los Angeles, a reality star is stepping up. He did his homework and couldn't be more impressed. Spencer Bratt. I'll let you hear it for yourself when we come back. Brian Kilmeade. Politics, current events, and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmeade. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox Newswineshop.com with code FM Radio 20. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 older to order. Please drink responsibly.

makes you think. This is the Brian Kilmeade. It's going to prevent us from arresting a criminal alien and safety and security of the jail. We have partnerships in New York throughout the state. Not everywhere, but she wants to end the partnerships we currently have, which means now we've got to send a whole team to look for a criminal that we could arrest it in safety and security of jail, which is safer for the officer, safer for the alien, certainly safe for the community. So Tom Homan trying to explain to Governor Kathy Hochul how it's to her advantage to have ice there. And anytime you insult ice, I'm just going to take a step back. I think most of the audience knows this. You're insulting Americans. These are Americans. They're your neighbors. They're your relatives. They're the family right across the way from you. These are people who said, I want to get into law enforcement. You know, I don't want the FBI. I don't want the CIA. I don't really want to be a state cop. I'm going to be an ICE officer because getting illegal immigrants out of this country, I think is a patriotic thing to do. And now they've effectively vilified it and call them Nazis and Gestapo and all these things. But please do not normalize that. Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, Colonel. Kathy Hochul does not understand there's a need for ICE. Yeah, it's pretty tragic. It's good to be with you, Brian. Recently, I was up in Maryland, and you had the exact same thing where the state legislature there passed legislation that was signed under the law by Wes Moore that prevents their duly elected constitutional law enforcement officers like sheriffs from working with ICE under what it's called a 287G program. And if you abide by the 287G program, what you're doing is you're enabling. your local law enforcement, and again, elected, Constitution elected officers like sheriffs, to be able to work with ICE and turn over these people inside a jail, inside a facility, instead of releasing them back out into the communities and look what ends up happening. Think about what just, you know, occurred recently, the 18-year-old freshman at Loyola University, Sheridan Gorman, who was shot and killed by a 25-year-old illegal immigrant. who had been picked up for shoplifting but released out of the jail. Now, that's because Chicago is a, quote, unquote, sanctuary city and, of course, in a sanctuary state, which, you know, is of itself unlawful because you are harboring people that have broke the law, Title 18, United States Code 1325, by entering the United States illegally. So what Governor Hokel is showing once again is that the Marxist left, these progressors, They're on the side of people that are here illegally and committing crimes. They care less about the American people and American citizen safety. So you wouldn't know this, but in New York, Holman. says ICE will continue to enforce immigration, especially after what happened at this Wyckoff Heights Medical Center in Brooklyn. All these anti-ice protesters, about 200 tried to block agents and other ambulances, by the way, from leaving after they picked up this Nigerian who overstayed his visa, had many prior arrests, including assault and drug possession. These protesters went after ICE, and this guy started resisting arrest.

So no NYPD came until it got totally out of control because they're not allowed. And listen to how the mayor played it. Cut 34. I've made very clear that our laws. leave nothing, no room for interpretation about the fact that our NYPD will not participate in civil immigration enforcement. And I've also been very clear about my views on ice raids as a whole. I think that they are cruel. I think that they are inhumane. I think that they do not serve any interest of public safety. I mean, what the hell is? So I just told you, this guy is a criminal. Overstate his visa with assault and drugs. What is the difference? Would you prefer, is he against rating if there's a American criminal there as opposed to an illegal criminal? Do you understand this logic? Well, I don't understand the logic, and that's why I believe the American people need to not understand the logic of the left because they don't care about anything other than their ideological agenda. Now, let's unpack what Zohran Mamdani just said. What Zohran Mamdani just confided it to us is that he does not believe in the Constitution. Article 6, Section 2 of the Constitution is called the Supremacy Clause, and when the federal government is acting in accordance with in pursuance thereof as are the words. to our Constitution, which means protecting our national sovereignty and the rule of law, they are supreme over local jurisdictions and states. So Zohran Mamdani is in violation of the Constitution. And really and truthfully, he's committing a felony offense, a federal offense by harboring criminals and saying that he is not going to allow law enforcement officers to enforce the law. That's basically what he, Kathy Hochul, Brandon Johnson, Mr. J.B. Pritzker. And also, Ms. Abigail Spanberger, let's not forget what just happened there where a criminal illegal alien was groping nine girls in a Fairfax County High School. And he's only getting 180 days. 19 years of age, criminal illegal immigrant, groping young girls. He's an adult. That's sexual assault, but he's only getting 180 days. Now, the question is, will they release him to ICE? when his time is up or will they just set him free in the state of Virginia, which is another sanctuary state? Yeah, in Fairfax, it's crazy. So the president's got to go into message that. He's on the right side of this. That's how he got elected. He's got to make sure it's message correctly like you just did. And lastly, from what we know about this 14-point deal where they take out the uranium, they know enrichment for 20 years, they want to get their sanctions relief. They also want their money unfrozen. And of course, the blockades, both of them will gradually be released. Just some of these deal points, what do you think?

No. I mean, first and foremost, you cannot trust these people. And when has Iran ever signed onto a quote unquote deal agreement, whatever, and abided by it? So, I mean, history shows that these are untrustworthy people. I think that we continue to put the economic pressure on them. Look, they're about to tap out as far as there are oil storage. And that's going to put an even greater kibosh on them because they're already losing, what, $500 to $550 million a day? And the United States, what we should do is take control of the Strait of Hormuz. It should not be under Iranian control so they can extort money. Oh, no, they can not be in control of that. No question. Yeah. Yeah. So we got to seize that. Couple of things. I don't like we pulled off the Operation Freedom because it was doing a great job. I expected that turbulence. But just to give you the latest, the Gulf States hated it because they're afraid they're going to get rocketed. And we right now have not given defense. that's affordable defense for all these Shahid drones, and they're afraid of the desalilalization plants and all of their lifeline, which is their oil and gas. So that's what the president's dealing with, as well as Pakistan said, if you can release Operation Freedom, we'll get them to the table. Well, I will also tell the Gulf states to give a call down to a company in Austin, Texas is producing an unmanned Gatlin gun that can take down these drones. And also, I know that the iron dome system has been deployed to the UAE. So it seems that America and Israel are the ones who will stand up and help these Gulf Cooperation Council states against Iran. All right. Thanks so much, Colonel Allen West. When we come back, Jack Carr, former Navy CEO, bestselling author, bring us up to date on all these things. And more, you'll listen to Brian Kilmeade Chair.

unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kilmeade. Hey, joining me now in studio. No stranger to America now. Jack Carr, number one time. Number one New York Times bestselling author, former Navy SEAL and creative of The Terminalist. His new book is the fourth option. It is a novel, but based on everything that he knows. And by the way, just one of the best podcasts, most respected podcasts in the country. Jack, welcome. Hey, thanks so much for having me on. This is awesome. Great to see you. Great to see you. Yeah. Great about your new book coming out in a few months here. Yeah, United in the States. Nice. I'm going to talk about that, but I also want to talk about your book. But first off, those 10 years that you served at a Navy SEAL. When you went in, was it to be special forces? Yeah, yeah, there's 20 years, 20 to wake up, I like to say. That was had sufficient at that point. But, yes, I was a little kid. I always wanted to test myself somehow and found out about SEALs at age 7 and little research that I did. Because back then, you could find the end of the Internet because it was a library shelf. Wow. And what I found out from researching team. SEAL teams was that, hey, these guys are some of the most elite fighters in our arsenal, and the training is some of the toughest ever devised by a modern military. So at age seven, they had me. I was in, and went in in 96, got out in 2016. And when I first got in, we thought we were kind of going to go cross the quarter deck after Buds at our first SEAL teams and go do the Save the World Op and come back in time for beers. And that was not how it was before September 11th, but after September 11th, then we started to do those things that we all thought we were going to do when we came in. So it was a very busy time from September 11th onward. I haven't seen the stats, but just anecdotally, it seems like special operators have less PTSD than conventional forces. It seems to me, but yet you seem to be more active than and with more missions. And most of you guys, multiple missions in and out, back and forth. I know it's a big strain of the family, but how do you... Do you think that's correct? What do you think? Well, I don't know. It's a different kind of mission. So I have this, the utmost respect for that, let's say, 18, 19, 20-year-old kid who is in the middle of the day standing watch on a street in Iraq, watching a car head towards him, and maybe it has bad suspension or maybe it's loaded down with explosives. He doesn't know. And that is the last decision maker and a long line of decision makers that starts with the president of the United States and goes all the way down. But that kid and that group of soldiers doing something like that, they're not choosing the time and place of their engagement. We are stacking the odds in our favor. We're choosing the time and place of our engaging. We're going out two in the morning, grabbing somebody out of their bed. We have a trigger that lets us know that they're there. We have disassociated human networks corroborated by some sort of technical intelligence. So we know the guys there. exactly where he is. We grab him out of his bed, pull him back for interrogation, get some intel, and then go out again. So we're stacking those odds in our favor, whereas most of the military, when they're doing things like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan, don't have that luxury. So one thing, I don't want to get you involved in politics unless you want to get involved, but I look at this Graham Platner.

And he says the Nazi tattoo and this is his declaration of I'm a communist and socialist and horrible things he said about women and rape. Well, he said I had PTSD. And coming back from the military, that's how I reacted. But I'm over that now. I feel in a way as someone who doesn't have it that that makes people with PTSD look bad. Like is that an excuse? I mean, who becomes a Nazi because of PTSD? I don't know. I can't really speak to that, but the guys that I know that are dealing with it, you know, I don't know anybody that has had that sort of a transformation. Have you ever heard that before this? I have not heard that. But I guess, you know, anything that happens to you in life and you want to blame something else, and you blame your parents, blame whatever, you see that all the time. But hey, it's personal responsibility regardless. But yeah, the PTSD thing, I incorporate that into the latest novel in this fourth option that comes out on May 12th. and it's really the first time I've explored it in the depth that with all the other novels in this type of detail. Do you have it? And I feel extremely fortunate that the decisions I made under fire worked out for whatever reason. And you can make the exact right decision under fire and the enemy gets a vote and things go south. And then you can make the wrong decision. If we were talking here and doing something on a sand table and talking about tactics and decision making and leadership, you can make the exact right decision goes south. You can make the wrong decision. decision and it might work out there's just too many atmospherics of a gunfight too many votes the enemy gets everyone's adapting in real time on the battlefield and really whoever adapts faster than the enemy is going to be the one that comes out on top so you're trying to anticipate your enemy's next move and think about in their shoes what they're seeing is they're evaluating you and then I think one step beyond that. So it's a game of constant adaptation. So Jack Carr, but you were just explaining PTSD, right? So sadly, you have a lot of people you could talk to about it because of most of your friends. And people that you serve with have it. A lot of people dealing with that emotional and physical trauma. But you described it interesting. You said because I had control, things worked out for me. Do you think people get PTSD when things go wrong and they try to redo it in their heads and can't get it out of their heads? Exactly. I think, well, you know, I can't speak for everybody with PTSD, but obviously. But for me, A lot of this came from popular culture, let's say, in the 80s, there was those protagonists of TV shows and movies and books, and a lot of these guys had Vietnam experience, and even though it's fiction, but they were sitting on their couch all these years later, wondering if they could have done something different at the time. And so they're dealing with PTSD, and now they're a police officer, they're a private investigator, they're a stuntman, whatever that is in the 80s that has these heroes and these TV shows and movies. And I thought, you know, I never want to be that person who is wondering if I could have done something more to prepare myself. So I feel like I did leave it all on. on the field, meaning my family knew that the pendulum was on the side of the team. They were on board with that. You have to have that conversation with your spouse, especially in special operations, because that pendulum has to be on the side of the team. That's what you owe the person to your right and left. That's what you owe the team. That's what you owe the country. That's what you owe the mission.

That, I think, helped a lot because anytime we had time off, I was training, I was shooting, I was running, I was reading about the enemy. I was trying to make myself a better leader, better operator today than I was yesterday. Today, I want to be a better author today than I was yesterday. I want to be a better citizen, a better husband, a better father today than I was yesterday. But in the SEAL team, it was all about being a better operator and leader. So I was just focused on that. So that helps with the PTSD, I think, prevent that because I knew that I hadn't left anything on the field. Interesting. But I'm just thinking about your family too, because I know if you work a lot, you go away for a week or two, that's a big deal. But you're going away in a moment's notice. And then you don't know when you're getting back. When you get back, you might go back again. And now you say when you do get back, I got to go train. Oh, yeah. It's so easy to understand the stress of a family. Oh, yeah. The divorce rates and the teams are fairly high. But when you go to, when you deploy it's six months at a time. And then you come home, like you said, in your way for a month training, let's say, doing desert water training. And, I mean, you can talk about some. There's, especially when you're not doing some super secret mission or something like that. I mean, it's not too secret what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. So you can talk about some of it, but, you know, you don't want to. bore your spouse with just tales of your experience downrange. So, you know, you tend to not talk about it with anybody else, just with the people in your team. You know, I was at West Point Tuesday. Oh, nice. And I had a chance to talk to everyone, every level, from the instructors to the commandant charge and everything. And I just think that your generation is as good as any generation of war fighters. And people take a step back, oh, I don't like the way Afghanistan ended or maybe Iraq ended. Well, that's nothing to do with you. I mean, you want everybody, you guys battled you in. The way you adapted to the battlefield, what you have done to make to lessen the number of casualties, how you innovated and took on what, okay, whenever we're in urban fighting, I was told to avoid that, but we're in it, how do we survive it? You actually cordoned off Romadi. You got IDs for everyone. You know who was coming out and then you took it down. I mean, think about how they're going to write. Maybe it's only going to be in a war college. Maybe they're not going to get to detail into grammar schools and high schools. They should. But you guys should be so proud of your generation. Well, appreciate that. It was sustained combat operations, and we hadn't really been in sustained combat operations since Vietnam. We had flashpoints to places like Desert 1, Grenada, Panama, Mogadishu, First Gulf War, which was fairly limited in scope and scale. But then September 11th happens, and we are in sustained combat operations for 20 years and plus now. So. That's a lot of experience, and that's a lot of adaptation real-time tactics-wise. And then also with the gear, the evolution of gear, weaponry over that time period took huge leaps forward. And I can only imagine what the guys are doing today with the technologies that they have out there and building on the foundation that's essentially my generation built up after September 11th. I remember the Iraq, we did not have bulletproof Humvees. Right, at the beginning. So you guys were putting Kevlar's in the doors. doing all sorts. You were taking sandbags and putting them on the floor of some of a truck bed and sitting on those as you rode into Ramadi. You had to adapt. You had to think on your feet. But you had those guns rolling around in those gun trucks without a thin-skinned vehicle gun trucks. That was pretty dicey. So tell me about the fourth option. Fourth option. So there's a new protagonist. Out May 16th.

And out May 12th. And this is a new protagonist for me. So it's a new storyline. And this is really about what happens when law enforcement, the prisons, the legal system fails. There's this fourth and final option. And that's Chris Walker, former SEAL, former ground branch operator with the CIA who's battling these demons. But also he's a philosopher at heart. So he has these philosophers battling within his soul at the same time as he deals with this post-traumatic stress, the emotional trauma of the battlefield, losing his friend, and then It's pulled into New Orleans. I always wanted to write a book that had New Orleans as a backdrop, not just a chapter or two, but for a full... book, full story. Why New Orleans? Because of the history? I've been there, so much color there, so much culture, a lot of corruption there as well, just kind of endemic to the system. And so it's a perfect backdrop for something like this. But the foundation of it is have gun will travel, which was a radio show first in the 1950s, then a TV show in the late 50s into the 60s and a Western. So it's a my take on the modern Western. The stranger comes to town narrative, but instead of jumping on his horse and riding to New Orleans. Chris Walker jumps in his Volkswagen Bus Pop Top Camper from the 80s with his Belgian Malinouin dog and hence to New Orleans to dish out some outlaw justice, some long-forgotten Old West brand of justice. So how did you prepare for this? Like, Look, you're listening to those past shows? Oh, yeah. From a different era? Oh, yeah. They were all part of my experience already, watching those with my dad when I grew up. So a pale rider, a little drop of pale rider in there, Shane, High Plains Drifter, Magnificent Seven. And then, of course, as a child of the 80s, people who are fans of Lethal Weapon, the first film, we'll see a kind of little dashes of that, maybe a little dashes of that I've watched growing up, and Equalizer from the 80s. So there's some touch points in there because those are all part of my experience, all the books that I read, the movies that I've seen, all the TV shows that I've watched growing up. Those all became part of my experience. I think what you do between age eight and 18, 10 and 20, just imprints on you differently. And so luckily I was reading all these books by the masters, watching these old TV shows and watching these movies, and now that's part of the foundation that I'm building on right now. And do you talk to, I imagine with your podcast and with the people you know and people are asked, talk to you, are you able to get their stories? Oh, yeah, yeah, talking to people that worked in the ninth ward down there in New Orleans, dealing with the drug situation. down there, people that are dealing with corruption in the police force down there, people that are working in human trafficking, trying to dismantle those syndicates. So I guess talk to a lot of people that are in those worlds and incorporate some of their stories into the end of the book here. I know New Orleans kind of interesting. Number one, I did Andrew Jackson, the miracle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was great book. So I went to New Orleans multiple times. And then my son went to Tulane. Oh, nice. So we were going down there constantly. And I would say colorful is one way to say it. You know, let me know what you think. When you read the book here, see if I captured the feel of New Orleans, which is the goal. Do you find Jack Carr, do you find finishing up a book as satisfying as finishing up a mission?

Very different. So I moved on from that life, but there's something about coming in when all your guys are okay. Whether the mission was successful or not, whether you got the package, the touchdown, whatever you were going out there to do. But having the guys come back and be okay, maybe just a couple scrapes and bruises, and you're coming in and the sun's coming up over whatever city you're flying into and you have a beautiful sunrise and you're coming back on the heloes or whatever it is, or maybe the gun trucks. That's a pretty cool feeling, knowing everybody's okay. So that's, I haven't I thought about that in a long time, but that's a pretty special feeling. If I talked to a player on any level than any type of success as a pro, they would always turn back the clock and say, I would love to play one more season. Very rarely, I was done. The only reason they feel that way is because maybe their body was breaking down, it was getting frustrating. But if you could do additional missions, were you that person, Jack, that was done? Or were you saying, I physically should stop, but I'd love to keep doing this? I got to a stage with my rank where I wasn't going to tactically maneuver guys on the battlefield anymore. Like when someone says they were a commanding officer or something, it sounds impressive. But really, you're back in a tactical operation center. And you have to have good people to do that, to allocate assets. So you were off the battlefields. So I got back from my last Iraq deployment. So I did seven. And then I got to this stage where I was a lieutenant commander, troop commander. And about that's the last time that I'm going to be able to tactically do the job. So that's what I'm good at. I know I'm not good at the administration, not good at the garrison stuff. So it's important to know your strengths. weaknesses and I was ready for it to move on after that. The name of the book is the fourth option. It's available next week. It's a novel. More with Jack Carr in just a moment because I've got to get your take, your days in Iraq and how you view Iran. Let's do it. Don't move. Where big stories meet bigger conversations. Stay informed and energized with the Brian Kilmeade.

Last is three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmeade. Hi, Mr. President. Can you tell us what you think about the extracting the uranium from Iran? We're going to get it. How will you get it? We're going to get it. So that's the president yesterday at the Oval Office. It was a day for wives of the military. And Melania spoke to. And he was asked because he's always talking. He was asked, what are you going to do about the 1,000 pounds of uranium that Iran has? He goes, we're going to get it. Jack Cor is with me now. His book's coming out next week. And it's called the fourth option, a novel. But Jack also fought in Iraq. And I wonder. We know about what they did with the EFPs, and we also know they killed over 600 Americans and wounded thousands, probably your friends. How do you feel about this operation? Yeah. Well, now that we're in it, we have to, there's no choice but to win it because what the enemy learned by watching us in Iraq and 20 years in Afghanistan, decade plus in Iraq, I think there's a direct line between there and the situation we're in now globally, meaning direct line between that, the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Obviously, what China is learning or what they did learn from Iraq and Afghanistan was that America cannot use their military effectively and efficiently. So now we have this opportunity to prove that we... can. After World War II, as you know, we essentially guaranteed trade routes around the world. We didn't keep the land that we fought for. We gave those back to the countries that we liberated in World War II. That burden fell on the taxpayer, it fell in the military, the Navy, in particular, to keep those trade routes open and it ushered in decades of the most prosperous time in the history of the world. So we did all that. Now, we've kind of lost that deterrence. We've lost that deterrence because we've shown that we can't use our military effectively. We have that opportunity to do that we did it in Venezuela. Now that we're in Iran, we have no choice but to win this thing. What does it look like? What does it look like for you, Jack Carr? It meeting all those goals from the negotiations ahead of time. Of course, you have to have those. And then when we stepped into the military realm, those shifted a bit because now you have to destroy a Navy. You have to destroy an Air Force. You have to keep the straight of Hormuz open. You have to do. in addition to those things that you're negotiating for at the outset. So all of those things have to be checked off. And then new leadership, obviously, in Iran that's going to work with us. And, you know, who knows what will happen with the Iranian? people, but that's really not the goal to liberate them. It's to get those negotiating points that we needed to get at the outset of this thing to check those things off. If I told you I'm going to give Jack Carr the opportunity to kill the 80 top leaders in Iran and then see what we have, you probably think your odds are pretty good. You're going to be successful. That's what we did. It's wild.

It is wild with what has been accomplished. Also, what the Israelis did, even not now. The assassinations. Even what they did, say, the spring, summer, into the fall of 2024, you can go back and look at some of those operations as well, which were essentially, even though they weren't training operations, they laid some of the groundwork for what they did now in Iran. So it's remarkable what these two militaries are going off. So, Jack, you think it's important for us to physically open up the straight and not end it in talks now? Are you okay with talks? Yeah, I mean, did you get to negotiating table? That's what you want. You want to get to the negotiating table and not have to kill any more people. But. You have to get what you set out. Can you flip you out that robots in battle? I mean, Ukraine is getting a unit, Russian units to surrender to robots. That's insane. I've not seen that yet. I've been in Vietnam for the last 10 days with eight Macfizog veterans taking them back there for the first time since the war. So I'm still on Saigon time. And people still call it Saigon, actually, which is pretty interesting. But the whole how the technology has evolved. I feel like I had good timing with my one of these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan because drones and robots and all the rest. of it. I'm glad I'm writing about that now. How about that? But you got to continue to study and continue to put out great books and turn into great movies. So the fourth option, a novel. Jack Carr, New York Times, bestselling office. This is certainly go number one again. Thanks so much, Jack. Great to see you. Thanks for having me on. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmeade. I'm so glad you there. It's the Brian Kilmeade. Moving to the second hour. I hope everything's going well for you this week. It's been quite busy. Mark Tyson standing by Bruce Blakeman. At the bottom of the hour, we hope he is the next governor of New York and save this city. Josh Crash Tower with us, Fox News, Radio Political Analyst, editor-in-chief, a Jewish insider. They're all going to be lined up today, and they're excited because we have our own YouTube channel now, YouTube.com, at the Brian Kilmeade. That is great. Guess what? Remember a few weeks ago, it sounded like President. Trump was arguing with everybody, including the Pope. Well, one argument I think is coming to a close. They've cooled down on both sides from the Vatican to North America. And now the Secretary of State is meeting with the Pope as we speak. So we have to saw the shots and ceremony. And I think they have any really substantive conversation. We just have to explain to the Pope who the good guys are. He gets confused. Maybe it's his Chicago upbringing. So before we get into more on that, let's get to the big three. Number three. All I'll say to Mr. Tom Homan is that Donald Trump himself said he would not send a surge of ICE agents to the state of New York unless I ask. I'm not asking. You should be asking. Totally you're responsible that you don't ask. Confrontations or cooperation. You make the call is the message that Tom Homan is giving to the New York governor. As more and more illegals are taking advantage of the sanctuary cities across America, we discussed the latest uprising.

Number two. But he's saying several things that are completely inaccurate. First of all, there was one reservoir that was out of commission. So this is, she's an incredible liar. No name calling, please. She just lied that. Yeah, but no name calling. We should call me a liar. But even since when there's any name calling, it's called the debate. I'm pretty sure Donald Trump did not stay to that. A battle for a major blue city mayor slot is front and center with the fireworks erupting on debate stage in Los Angeles. We'll bring you the highlights along with the midterm mayhem and redistricting across the country. Number one. Now we're doing well. Now we have to get what we have to get if we don't. Do that. We'll have to go a big step further. They want to make a deal. We've had very good talks over the last 24 hours. And it's very possible that we'll make a deal. Let's see, right now there's been a little bit of shooting. We'll explain. Is the deal going to get done? Iran of the U.S. looking at a long-term deal with China, meeting a week away. We go over what the Trump's plan is. He gave him 14 points. And let's bring in Mark Teeson. Mark, farm minister of Iran goes over to China. And we don't know what they discuss, but it has to be the 90% of oil that they buy from Iran. And the straits been closed, so they're not getting it. and they're not getting out. And there was a shooting already where one ship decided not to listen and try to blow our blockade, and we blew up their engine room. Talk to the president this morning, and he says so far everything's holding, and the blockade's not going to break. What are your thoughts on where we're at right now? Well, first of all, look, Donald Trump has done something no other president would do, which is to take decisive action. disarm the Iranian regime of nuclear weapons. And he deserves enormous credit for that. But how, you know, no other president would have started this war, but how you ended is as important as how you begin it. And right now, we are in danger of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory with a deal that's going to give this regime a lifeline on survival. And, you know, Trump likes to say. But the Iranians don't agree. And just think about what we've seen in the last week. If they're from the Iranian, put yourself in the shoes of the Iranians. Trump launches Project Freedom to restore navigation through the Strait of Hormuz, and he warns the Iranians that if they dare to fire on U.S. ships, we're going to blow them off the face of the earth. So what does Iran do? They fired a U.S. ship. They launched a dozen ballistic missiles and three cruise missiles and four drones at the UAE. And we do nothing. Not only do we not blow them off the face of the earth, Marco Rubio goes to the press conference and announces that Operation Epic Fury is over and we're now on to Project Freedom, and then a day later we suspend Project Freedom. So if you're in Iran's shoes, what are you thinking? You're perceiving weakness. You're concluding that Trump's threats were bluster and he really doesn't want to bomb again, that he's feeling the political pressure from high gas prices, that the blockade is backfired.

And it's only a matter of time before he capitulate. So you offer to talk and you say, oh, we need a month to negotiate the nuclear thing. You don't need a month to capitulate. You can do it tomorrow. Unconditional surrender. It takes literally two seconds to write those words on a piece of paper. And so the Iranians don't think that Trump has all the cards. Now, he does have all the cards because he has the card of resuming the military campaign. And so he needs to disabuse them of that notion. You don't fire on a U.S. ship with impunity. That's not what Donald Trump does. And so I'm very worried that the Iranian regime does not perceive the reality of the danger that they're in. But Trump needs to. I think he did with the shooting of that chip. And I agree with, obviously agree with everything you said. Not only do you know your stuff, but you're also in touch with the decision makers. So I double appreciate that. I did have a chance to talk to the president this morning. And he does say these guys are arguing with each other. And he knows it. Don't ask me how. You could probably figure it out. Yeah. And he also says that they want to get something done. He said, I stopped it for two reasons. Operation Freedom. I said, Mr. President, why did you stop it? And he said two reasons. Saudis. Saudis said that, you know, they're concerned about the oil production. Number two, the UAE also, who have been great. He said they've been fantastic. But they just missed blowing up that pipeline, which would have been really detrimental. So here's the problem with that, Brian. And what I'm just going to give you the third thing. And he said, the Pakistan, he said, if you release that, we can get him to the table. Give me your points and I'll get them to agree. But go ahead. Yeah. So here's the problem with that. What that, when Iran sees, when he stopped, He launches Project Freedom to open the Strait of Hormuz, and they are able to stop us by threatening our Gulf allies. What they see is that they have the leverage. Their ability to threaten our Gulf allies oil infrastructure is deterring us from starting the war again. So what they take that to mean is that we'll never start bombing them again because they can take out the Saudi and UAE oil infrastructure. They have the upper hand. They have the cards, if that's the case. We can't do that. We can't allow them to have that kind of leverage over us. So, you know, I think what we need to do here is we, and the other thing they're trying to do is they're trying to drag out the negotiations as long as they can because they know that they think they think that the closer we get to the midterms, the less likely Trump is to start military operations again. So that's why they want a month to do this. You know, a few weeks ago, Trump, you know, urged them to not kill these eight women who were set for execution. Financial Times reports today that the executions have doubled in pace since the start of the ceasefire. They're executing people nonstop. That's plumbing their nose of Trump. The Iranians are not chastened. They are not in the mode of capitulation. And so. How do you get them back into that mode? I tell you what I would do is if they, if they throw, you, you restart project freedom, you, you, you, well, first you got to wait for them to get back. First you got to get away. They do have to at least give cursory. Get back to me of the 14 points, right? Just see what they say.

They gave him, Trump gave them 14 points, says, I want all these things satisfied. I need, we haven't gotten answered. And they don't say yes, then you, then you relaunch a project. Why do we need to wait for anything to relaunch Project Freedom. That's just, freedom of navigation. That's not ending the ceasefire. We, we should, we have no reason to not open the straight of to do that. No, I agree with you, but, but why do we concede their, why do we concede their control? Okay, but go ahead. So, okay, so let's say, let's say they say on the 14 points, we don't agree, we only agree with two. What would you do then? So what you do is you relaunch operation, you, uh, project freedom. Yep. You start the escort mission again or the protection mission. It wasn't an escort mission, protection mission. And then if they fired us, we blow up Carg Island. We, we take not the entire thing. We just take out some of the nucleophysis. there and say, we're willing to destroy the whole thing if you don't stop. And if they don't stop, then what we do is this. We let Israel restart the military operations, and we continue the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh,

then we do a final barrage of strikes and we and we declare victory we eliminate all the targets that we wanted to take and then we and then what you know what we do we do something that the CIA did really well during the Cold War we launch a covert operation to arm and train the Iranian opposition we did this all 400 million people in the 1980s by through a strategy of arming and training and supporting opposition groups behind the iron curtain across the world. And we enabled the Iranians. President Trump said the other day, you know, we should get them guns. And if the Iranian people had guns, they'd be able to do, they'd be able to take care of these people. So get them guns. Get them guns. Let's get them guns. I mean, and it's like. I don't, I'm sorry, but, you know, we've got the muscle memory to do this. It wasn't that long ago that we did this. And as I recall, the CIA has done regime change in Iran before. We overthrew the Mosaddeg regime in Iran and helped install the Shah. So we know how to do this. We've got the muscle memory. We know how to do the, we know how to overthrow regimes. Let's bring back the old, some of these old skills. and overthrow them. What we cannot do is give them release money to them, frozen assets, sanctions relief that gives the regime a lifeline. If they survive this thing and come out stronger, it becomes a disaster. And by the way, that's the conversation in China. If they get stronger, it's only because China sold them weapons and buy their oil. And that's got to be a conversation. That's got to be part of the conversation in China.

on the cost of one of the most important victories any American president has had in national security in your or my lifetime. But we're also at the one road leads to that and another road leads to disaster. And so he has to choose wisely because right now the Iranians do not think that we have the cards. They think they have the cards. And the reality is, if we're not willing to restart bombing, then they do have the cards. So a couple of things, Mark. Do you have to understand, too, it's all within, this is all going to work out, here's why. If what you say is true and the Iranians are interpreting this as we have control and we got them where we want them, that means they're not going to sign off on this and he will not do a bad deal. He'll do a deal that might not be perfect, but he will not do a bad deal. So there's no way. And then we'll go back. And they still got the firepower here. In fact, they got additional weaponry. And we know that double the firepower. Yeah, double. Okay. We've doubled the firepower since the start of the C-star. We have double the firepower now in the region that we had at the start of the campaign. And the Israelis, their magazines are loaded. They're ready to go. And, you know, and another thing, the American people are behind him on this. So if you look at the polls, the polls show that most Americans don't agree with the decision to go to war, but most Americans want to win. So there's a Harvard-Harris-Caps poll that came out. This is what they say. 71% say it's essential that Iran gives up the right to enrich uranium. 74% Iran has to give up control of the Strait of Hormuz. 78% say Iran must stop.

Iran must stop supporting terrorist proxies. And 66% say Trump should insist on all of those points and not settle for less. Yes, there is a disagreement over whether he should have done this. But the only way this hurts Trump politically is if we don't win. I hear you. If there's not a decisive victory, if there's some muddled middle ground at the end of this. What Americans like is winning. And so they will follow him, even if they disagree with the decision, if in the end he wins. And what they hate more than starting a war and enduring high gas prices is losing a war and paying high gas prices for nothing. And so if we let them up off the mat, then all of that, then there will be a blowback politically. If we win, It will be a boon for him in the midterms. It will be a positive, a sleeper issue for him, but he has to win decisive. Because underneath the military is the economic fundamentals are strong. And once you get this done, it's going to boom. And people will only see the story of decreasing gas prices. It won't go down right away, but every day, less, less, and soon that's not going to be a story by the time July, August comes around if we go ahead and do this right. Here's why I'm convinced that the president's going back. Because I am convinced that Iran is not going to do anything. that's going to be substantive, that allow the president to say this is an acceptable deal. And that's it. And then we're going to be back here. And I just hope we got the plan. And I think that it's about time the UAE uses this Air Force that we hear so much about and get involved. So, Mark, yeah. So, Mark, I look forward to your next column. I think our, I get so many people who said, I love what Mark Teeson's on. So I just try to stay out of your way. So Mark Teeson, thanks so much. be in all with you, Brian. All right. Go get him. Back in a moment. Keeping you informed, engaged, and always a step ahead. It's the Brian Kilmeade. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmeade. He's saying several things that are completely inaccurate. First of all, there was one reservoir that was out of commission. He is correct. A million years ago, it was for wildfires, but over the last 30, 40 years, it's been for drinking water. He talked about the winds. That is just completely inaccurate. If that were accurate, then the planes would have been able to fly. So this is, she's an incredible liar. Everyone on their phones, Google it. 40 weather stations in the Pacific Palisades. It never went above 40 miles from. She is referencing. Mr. Pratt, I have to interrupt you for a minute. I have to interrupt you. No name calling, please. She just lied, though. Yeah, but no name calling. We should call me a liar.

Right. If she's lying, you call her a liar. What kind of rules are these? What is a good name? So if she's not telling you, she's, if he came out and said she's not telling the truth, okay, she's a liar, she's not telling the truth. Is there a difference? Can you just listen to the substance of what he's saying? If you want to, she should have the chance to say he's a liar. One of them's not telling the truth. So what does Karen Bass have to say? Spencer Pratt did his. homework. And this is what I think is significant. I'm going to ask Josh Crash out with this. If you can challenge the bluest of blue states, a Republican named Steve Hilton in California. I know he's not going to, you know, he's still got his, the chips are stacked against him in the general, but right now he's first or second in the polls. And if you can get Spencer Brad, a Republican in Los Angeles, running legitimately close to a Democratic mayor. Maybe this is a game plan for Chicago, for New York. And we know what's happening in New York because Bruce Blakeman's also going to be on with me this hour too. He's a Republican, NASA County Executive, and he is running for the governorship. So instead of Republicans giving up and say, well, it's a city, they're never going to vote for this. Or a Republican becomes a Democrat as a moderate in order like Rick Caruso had to become a Democrat. He thought to have any legitimate shot. I think there's got to be challenged. You've got to challenge in all these cities. Because right now, every city, as soon as I tell you a city, you just know, Democratic mayor. Maybe Spencer Pratt can change that. But man, when I'm so impressed this, he's got, he's very comfortable on stage. That's his background. But also, he went and learned the issues and has opinions on all of them and did his opposition research too. We'll play more in a moment.

He'll make your headspin. It's Brian Kilmeade. So there's an LA council member. He wants voters to decide. He is saying that non-citizens, should they be allowed to vote in local elections? Is this a yes or no? It depends. It depends on what? Well, first of all, when you say non-citizens, it doesn't mean they're here illegal. It doesn't mean they're undocumented. They could have green cards. They could be here perfectly illegal. And there's a lot of states and cities that do that on very, very local elections. We have to see what the councilman is proposing. Are you crazy? If you're here, if you're here illegally, you should not be voting. What do you mean? It depends. And green cards, I don't think you, you can't vote on a green card. What are you talking about? They're illegal immigrants, wherever you want to say, illegal aliens, whatever you claim. So that's some of the debate. And I just love that they're bringing this out. Should in the governor's race? They said, should illegal immigrants get health care? Oh, absolutely. Good. You pay for it. So I can't get health care. Everybody's complaining about health care, trying to figure it all out, and we're getting people coming here, getting health care, everything paid for, and they don't belong here, which they don't understand brings more people. Well, having this real debate because I've never seen in some of these blue cities them being challenged like this. And that's why I heard Spencer Pratt. That's why I really hope he's successful. And Bruce Blakeman is successful. Josh, Josh, they're really engaging with these Republican-Democrat fundamental issues. Yeah, I mean, you know what this reminds me of, Brian, is when the Democratic candidates were president in 2020 took... And adopted a whole range of exotic positions, including offering benefits, health care benefits, and other entitlements to illegal immigrants, and including, you know, all kinds of trans activist issues that ended up coming back to haunt the party. I mean, including the kind of, you know, tax hikes. you know, very, very socialist radical positioning that ended up costing the party. Biden ended up winning the nomination that year. But it was the majority of Democrats that kind of foreshadowed where the party was headed. And you thought, I mean, look, the Trump's election in 2024, the expectation was the party needed to moderate. They needed to kind of reject that legacy because it caught them so badly at the ballot box. But they've quickly forgotten that history. And in California, which is, you know, one of the bluest states. This is a race to the far left, and one where you see those very radical exotic positioning re-emerging in 2026. So here's some more from the mayoral debate last night in Los Angeles. Cut 19, Spencer Pratt.

The reality is no matter how many beds you give these people, they are on super meth. They are on fentanyl. The DEA statistics says 93% of this is a drug addiction problem. Nithya Raman, Councilwoman Robbins, plan for treatment first. I will go below the Harbor Freeway tomorrow with her, and we can find some of these people she's going to offer treatment for. She's going to get stabbed in the neck. These people do not want a bed. They want fentanyl or super meth. And he's talking about the homeless situation, and he did his homework, and he did go underneath that bridge. So what are people seeing in Los Angeles? Do they understand how much money they're wasting on homelessness? They say, oh, it's down 9%. Still the worst in the country. Yeah, I mean, he is reflecting a deep-seated frustration, which is true of anyone from the center left to the right about the quality of governance, the waste, the fraud, the abuse. I mean, Los Angeles is sort of the epicenter of why government doesn't work. California, I mean, to take it to the national level of Kevin News and runs for president and is a serious contender. And the story of California governance is going to be the fundamental debate in 2028. And Los Angeles is the homelessness and crime issues. I mean, it's front and center in that mayoral race. You've seen other cities where you actually have had a moderate-minded Democrat, like a... who, you know, ran, succeeded. They asked to the left in position of governance in that city, and they've actually turned things around. It's interesting that in the Los Angeles race, Karen Bass is a lefty. The challenges are running to her left, so it's even further. And it took someone like Spencer Pratt to fill the vacuum, who's much more conservative. But the sort of sad state of affairs is that within the Democratic Party in Los Angeles, you know, they couldn't find a moderate. They couldn't find anyone who kind of fits the typical kind of Mike Bloomberg. a moderate Democrat bill. So Pratt is really capturing a lot of oxygen and energy because he's saying the truth that I think any common sense person who's dealing with these governance issues with the crime and the homelessness and so on are dealing with. So Ken Griffin, the CEO of Citadel, they did a stand up in front of his house, did Zohran Mamdani. He showed his apartment two blocks from where the CEO of the health care company, Brian Thompson, was assassinated. And we didn't hear much from Ken Griffin. Now we're hearing a lot from him. He said it's a slur to say tax the rich because it's just like from river to the sea. It's the same thing. You're trying to create an enemy. And now you're trying to put my security in danger by doing what you're doing as mayor of New York City. You think I'm the problem? They spent billions of dollars in taxes, and he's about to spend $6 billion in a building and bring thousands of employees here. And now he's putting the whole operation on hold, looking at Miami. I looked at it, I'm finding out this story now, Mark Rowan of Apollo. He's going to start moving out in New York. You know what he paid in taxes last year? These horrible rich people, $1.26 billion. And the year before, $1062 billion. So he's saying, I'm going to Texas and I'm going to Miami. This whole tax the rich, the rich of the problem, tax the wealth tax, do you realize it's bringing this this simmering issue to the table? I think Democrats think they can win on this. Josh, do you believe they can win on this? Because in reality, they're trying to balance a budget on the backs of billionaires and the billionaires are leaving.

Yeah, in a presidential election, my goodness, if Gavin Newsom, for example, the nominee, these issues are going to be front and center. And Ken Griffin had to leave Chicago and move. I mean, he was just so apoplectic about the state of governance in Chicago. And the fact that the Democratic Party in their nominating process didn't seem to care. They didn't seem to be promoting or boosting the candidates that were Democrats who were interested in. making the city more livable and dealing with crime and dealing with the radicalism that's taking over the party. So this is a real systemic issue. I actually find it on a related note. There's so much attention. We're paying to gerrymandering and redistricting and all of the Supreme Court decision in Louisiana just the last week. The biggest, the biggest. Because more and more people are moving from California and New York into Texas and Florida. Texas is going to have a lot more house seats. Florida is going to have a lot more house seats in the next census. And New York and California are losing house seats, right? So more than any gerrymander, Republicans are gaining more seats just because of the bad governance in the deep blue states like California and New York. And they're moving to red states that have low tax, less regulation, less crime, more vibrancy. That's where people are voting with their feet. And that actually means a lot more to the Democrats' ability to hold the House than any of the gerrymanders that are taking place back and forth in a lot of these states. So if they really were... interested in kind of maintaining power and having influence in Congress, it would be getting your house in order in these big cities, in these big blue state. So I got to ask you real quick on this deal, 14 points President Trump handed over to, in Pakistan, to the Iranians. Where do you think this is going, Josh? What do your sources tell you? You know, there definitely is the outline of a possible deal, but I'm very skeptical. The Iranians are going to play ball. They're masters. delaying and Hemming and Hein, but are they actually going to allow access to their nuclear fissile material? I really doubt it. And I think Trump has certainly indicated he would look to end the war and have some kind of diplomatic agreement, but he doesn't have, I don't think, a bargaining partner on the other side. So it feels Brian like Groundhog. I feel like we've been talking about the same thing, the same ceasefire, the same state of negotiation ever since the ceasefire began. Trump wants the more I kind of see what the administration is doing and the more I talk to people that are kind of behind the scenes talking about these negotiations don't see a whole lot of progress. I just think that there's an outline of what could be done if the Iranians are willing to play ball. But I'm very... All right, go get him. Josh's going to be an interesting time as we get to that China trip next week and see what happens this week. Josh Crashauer, thanks so much. We come back. Bruce Blakeman joins us. You'll listen to the Brian Kilmeade. It's Brian Kilmeade. Information you want. Truth you demand. This is the Brian Kilmeade.

Hey, we are back as Bruce Blakeman is wrestling with the complimentary earphones right here in studio. Bruce Blakeman, Nassau County Executive, Republican, and the GOOP gubernatorial candidate. Bruce, welcome. Well, thank you so much, Brian. It's always an honor to be on the show with you. Right. And thanks so much for my cupcakes. Well, you're the birthday boy today. So, you know, I did it in Long Island fashion. Remember when we used to celebrate our birthdays, not with elaborate events, but we go in the basement with our cupcakes and our friends? I don't think we're allowed to do that in school anymore, which is bizarre, right? I don't think you're allowed to bring anything in and hand it out. I'm not sure what that's about. But Bruce, you just got news as we came in here about the New York State budget just passed. Yes. Well, they have an agreement. They haven't voted on it yet, but it will pass because they have an agreement. There's nothing in it for the residents of New York. We're still spending billions of dollars on illegal migrants who weren't New Yorkers. They're not Americans. It's a waste of taxpayer money. We still have not addressed. The high utility costs, New York's utility rates are 70% higher than the rest of the nation. There's nothing in there for the taxpayers. So it's basically a budget that is more of the same. And it's just more spending. You know, the budget that she's proposing is twice the size of the state of Florida. And Florida's got more people. It's just insane. Right. So I want you to hear Governor Kathy Hochul talk about what's happening when it comes to ICE. She doesn't want any ice in the area, doesn't want any cooperation. That's in the budget. We'll discuss that in the second. And now she's sparring with Tom Homan again. Cut 31. All I'll say to Mr. Holman is that Donald Trump himself said he would not send a surge of ice agents to the state of New York unless I ask. I'm not asking. And she's never going to ask, but what is she doing to make it even harder? Well, first of all, her proposal. to make a law that local law enforcement can't cooperate with federal agents, I believe violates federal law. And I am going to take her to court. My county, which is larger than eight states in population, we have the most comprehensive agreement with ICE of any county in America. And as a result, we have removed 2,000 illegal migrants with criminal records, such as attempted murder, rape. robbery, burglary, carjacking, gang activity, drug dealing. Now, we remove these 2,000 people. She wants them to stay in the state. So I just don't understand where she's coming from. I think that we work with ice. And by working with ice, we haven't had to raid schools. We didn't raid any churches. We didn't raid daycare centers. We didn't raid hospitals or any place else that she's making this fictitious claim about. So it's worked very well for our police department. But what they don't understand about ICE agents, they're Americans. They just chose a branch of law enforcement state.

Police, okay, you have an option to go to the FBI. You could be a local cop. They chose ICE. But now they have to be defunded, there to be diminished, there to be demeaned. Listen to her. Cut 33. Local law enforcement should not be doing ICE's job and not being weaponized against their own communities. When it comes to civil enforcement, ICE won't be able to use our jails, won't be able to use our police technology funded by our taxpayers, and will not be able to use our police personnel. We're drawing a line in the sand. I mean, this is leadership? Here's what's wrong about it. She says that local law enforcement shouldn't be used to help ICE. They're helping us. We're not helping them. The fact of the matter is they're coming in our communities and they're removing dangerous people from our communities that shouldn't be in America to begin with. So she's got it completely opposite of what it is. We welcome ICE in my county because they're working together with us. They make it a lot easier. And with cashless bail in New York State. A lot of the people that are arrested could just walk out the door and never come back and face no consequences. And without ICE, we wouldn't be able to do anything. But with ICE, we can deport them. Are you heartened by the fact that a Republicans leading in the jungle primary as governor in California and you have a Republican giving a big run and a Democrat in Los Angeles? Does that way, does that give you additional optimism as a Republican trying to win in a blue state right here? Well, absolutely. But I've traveled around this state now for months in every corner of the state. It's the same story. People are miserable with Kathy Hochul because we are the most overtaxed, overregulated state. She is the most pro-criminal governor in the United States of America. But that's not rhetoric. That's a fact. They rank them. It's a fact. Those are a fact. We were in the bottom, I think out of 50 states, I think we're like at 40 or 44. We're 41 in economic development. The once great. Empire State is now a joke. It's a national embarrassment. And our utility rates are 70% higher than the national average, all because of Kathy Hochul. And Zoroamem Dani and Kathy Hochul are inseparable. And now he went out, as you know, Zohran Mamdani M.Dani went in front of a $238 million apartment of Ken Griffin, CEO of Citadel, and said, basically he's the problem. We've got to tax these rich people. And all of a sudden, Ken Griffin is the bad guy. So he came out and said this yesterday, cut 46. It was creepy and weird. Agreed. I mean, like knock, knock, knock on the window. Like, huh. Mayor of New York City. Oh, knock on the screen, yeah. Yeah. How many times have you watched that video? Three. Like, you literally look at the first time, you're like, you got to be kidding me. Okay? And then the second time, you're like, you know what, this is actually, this has gone from creepy to actually not really creepy. This has gone frightening. Because, you know, the CEO of United Healthcare was killed just a few blocks from my house.

And anything that creates like an agitation in the extremist on either side of the aisle is a frightening dynamic. I mean, you know, if we look at what happened in D.C. So Ken Griffin has got a $6 billion investment about to go into New York City. He doesn't look at he's going to do it. He said, I'm going to double and triple down on Miami. And then the CEO of Apollo who paid $1.26 billion in taxes last year, he's also looking elsewhere out of New York City. Just wait until November. Help is on the way. We're going to win this election because we're on the right side of the issues. Anybody that wants to drive high net worth individuals out of their community, out of their state is just insane. First of all, think about the carpenter, the electrician, the plumber, the local restaurant owner, the pharmacy, the dry cleaner, the cleaning services. These are middle class people to get hurt when rich people leave. And rich people are leaving by the droves and they're taking jobs with them. And when they take their tax revenue with them to Florida, Texas, South Carolina, North Carolina, Arizona, what happens then is there's a shortfall and the middle class has to make up that shortfall. That's why Zeron Zohran Mamdani call for a property tax increase in New York City, which is hugely unpopular. And now they're talking about a death tax. for people who have assets over $750,000. They want to take away people's inheritance. They want to take away their small businesses. They want to take away their family homes. So how do you get that message across? Because you know how close Lee Zeldin got within six points? Five, six points. What did you learn from that? Well, first of all, I have a big advantage over Lee Zeldin because when Lee ran... He was telling everybody all the horrible things that Kathy Hochul was going to do, but she didn't have the report card yet, and he didn't have her report card to run on. So now everything that Lee said has come true, we have the report card, and it's straight Fs. We are overtax, overregulated, crimes out of control, and our utility rates are 70% higher than the national average. In every category, she is making it less affordable and less safe to live in New York State. So you believe you're how close to her? Right now in the polls. I know we're in single digits because Kathy Hochul is attacking me with a million dollar campaign. ads that she's doing. And if you attack a Republican in New York State and April, it's because you're in deep trouble. So our polls have us in single digits behind her. We know her polls have her in single digits behind it. We're going to win this race. And also, we need somebody to fight against anti-Semitism somewhere. And Bruce, you could do it. I know you will do it. I'm the man for the job. You got it. Bruce Blakeman, always great to have you in. Thanks so much. Happy birthday. Thank you very much.

Maya Top Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sewing division. It's Brian Kilmeade. Hi, one, Brian Kilmeade here. Thanks so much for listening to Brian Kilmeade. We have a lot going on this hour. We're going to be joined by some really special guests as well as taking your calls. 1866408-7669. Kurt Volkler standing by, former ambassador to NATO. Yes, we're still in it. And Roger Zakheim, Washington, Director of the Ronald Reagan Foundation. And then you're also going to find out some other important stuff because we're going to put in a more to know special segment. So let's get to the big three. Number three. All I'll say to Mr. Homer is that Donald Trump himself said he would not send a surge of ICE agents to the state of New York unless I ask. I'm not asking. You should be asking. Confrontation or cooperation, you make the call to the, is the message from Tom Homan to the New York State Governor, as moral illegals are taking advantage of the sanctuary cities across America, we'll discuss it. Number two. He's saying several things that are completely inaccurate. First of all, there was one reservoir that was out of commission. So this is, she's an incredible liar. No name calling, please. She just lied, though. Yeah, but no name calling. She called me a liar. She did, but doesn't seem to matter because you're Spencer Brad and you're not supposed to win. Battle for a major blue city, mayor's slot is front and center from the fireworks erupting on the debate stage you just heard. We also bring you the highlights along with the midterm mayhem and redistricting across the country. Number one. Now we're doing well. Now we have to get what we have to get. If we don't do that, we'll have to go a big step further. They want to make a deal. We've had very good talks over the last 24 hours. And it's very possible that we'll make a deal. Well, that is good, I guess. Is the deal going to get done? Iran and U.S. looking at a long-term agreement where 30 days they work out the details. With the China meeting next week, we go over it with the 14 point and the plan. So... Some of the things that are in the plan is get rid of all the uranium. They call it down blending and then agree for 20 years not to touch it. And then when you're going to go up, they say 3.2 when you're going to enrich. I don't know why they would get it. And who knows what the world's going to look like in 20 years. Open up the end your blockades, respectively. Got it. But they want to continue to charge tolls. We'll never accept that. They also want their unfrozen funds. They want their frozen funds unfrozen. I'm not sure we should do that. You know what they do with the money? And then they want the sanctions relief. I mean, you could have some incentivized sanctions relief, but it's got to be incredibly gradual. And there's got to be a way to observe and get in in a way in which it's not going to be like Saddam Hussein revisited. You kick out the inspectors, you allow in the inspectors, only allow a certain inspector in, charge them a spying, kick them out again. That's not the way this should end.

Ambassador Kurt Volker joins us now. Ambassador, great to see you. I'm just wondering what you think of what we know so far about the 14 points that we proposed. Yeah, we're just going to have you. If you can unmute your mic, that would be great, and we can see you on camera. Sorry about that. Yeah, no problem. I'm with you. I'm with you, Brian. Happy birthday. Thank you so much. No, I think, first off, President Trump wants to end this. That's clear. He wants to make sure there's no further pressure on gasoline prices, on the price of oil globally. And he's looking to make a deal here. He doesn't want to go in for full regime change, doesn't want to use ground troops. So given that, he's trying to get the best deal that you can. And I think you highlighted some of the things that make this better than the J. CPOA, removing the uranium, a tougher inspection regime. Those are improvements, a longer time horizon, 20 years if we can get it. So those are all improvements. But some of the bottom lines here are still that this regime will remain in place. They will continue to have the ability to threaten shipping and to threaten their neighbors, and they will have the desire to build a nuclear weapon. And they've shown time and again they're willing to cheat no matter what they agree to. So this might be a step to bring markets under control for a while, but we're going to have a long-term problem with this regime. There's no question. Also, they got to limit the ballistic missiles and stop the financing of the terror networks. That's why if we give them money, even if it's theirs anyway, that's what they're going to do. They're not going to give it to, you know, dig new wells for their people. No, exactly. And this is what Obama did. He gave them $1.4 billion. And they used that to beef up Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis. And that's what we can expect again if they get the money. So I think there's a lot of pushback that we still have to do in this. But I respect President Trump's decision that he thinks we need to end it for a lot of different reasons. But that means we are going to have a big problem in the future as well. This is not done. So the thing is, as you know, because you're an expert diplomat, and you know that China has a lot of power in this situation, they supply most of the weaponry and buy most of the Iranian oil. And evidently the Secretary of State has told them that. And they said President Xi Jinping, the President told me this morning, President Xi Jinping understands too. He says, I will say, have they been helping? And he says, I'll tell you this, they are not hurting, which they could do. So what do you think, Ambassador? Yeah, well, I think China is going to look at this and say, look, we were fine before February 28th. We're going to continue to buy energy. We can tell them to play nice. But ultimately, this is not our problem. This is your problem. And as we just heard, as you just said, they're not making it worse, but they're not going to stick their necks out. They have the money, and they're going to buy the energy wherever it comes from by whatever means. Another ambassador weighed in. Mike Waltz, cut four.

We do see some movement. Number one, because of the blockade that President Trump, I think, frankly, brilliantly put in place, it was China that was buying 90% of Iran's illegal, sanctioned oil. Now it no longer has access to it. And so the Chinese economy is now being affected by this blockade. And they're using their reserves. And so they're not necessarily feeling it at the pump there, ambassador. Yeah, that's right. They have plenty of money and they have more time than we or the Iranians do. And they're confident that this will reopen at some point. And because they have the money to buy, people will sell. So I don't think China is really sweating about this right now. Now, as far as what President Trump might get from Xi Jinping when he goes there, He might say, look, I'm going to end the conflict. We're going to have an agreement. We want the straight to be fully open. You can buy your oil and gas. We want the rest of the world to buy their oil and gas too. And so tell the Iranians that we don't want them closing this straight again. And I think the Chinese might say, yeah, we support an open straight too. But they're not going to stick their necks out for us. So I also believe that one of the reasons why the president lifted Operation Freedom. is because of the Gulf states. They're worried about losing their desalination plants and other energy assets, even though they can protect themselves against the bulk of these drones and cruise missiles, not all of them. So that's why they're somewhat vulnerable. And that was one of the reasons why the president listened to the Pakistani negotiator and say, would really help us get into a table if you release the operation that was reopening the straight. Do you think that was a good move? Well, unfortunately, there's two problems here. The first problem, we talked about this before, it's asymmetry. It doesn't take much for the Iranians to shut down shipping, to threaten ships, threaten our destroyers, to hit a hotel in Dubai. It doesn't take much and they can do it. It is much harder to force everything to be open again and to be secure again. So they have the advantage of asymmetry, and that's just the reality. And because of that, the operation to escort vessels through is not that safe in operation. And a lot of vessels are still worried that the Iranians could hit them, even though the U.S. is providing an escort. So I think that we need an escort operation in the context of some kind of deal with Iran, because on its own, it's not going to be effective. Right, because you're saying they're going to keep shooting and the insurers won't put the, let the tankers go through. That's right. That's right. So I guess we'll see what's going to happen. If they take, look at that 14-point plan and take maybe only two points, we're going to only have one option. So it's going to be having to go back and convince them they don't have the leverage. If we can convince them of that. I think what we're going to end up with military action. Yeah, that's what I understand. I think we're going to end up with a framework agreement, the threat of future military force. But we're going to continue to try to hammer it out and hammer it out rather than go back to military force because that's not solving the problem either. And as you said, they can easily just turn right back around and hit the UAE or hit Qatar or hit shipping in the Gulf or even go after one of our ships with a Navy diver or something. Or a fast boat.

I think both sides have an interest now in negotiating, but we're both trying to squeeze as much out as we can. The fast boat's doing some damage, but not to us. And that would be interesting. We do have a strategy for that, which I've read and is pretty effective. Tell me about NATO Ambassador. It looks like things have never been worse. I agree. I agree. I think that President Trump is really upset with our NATO allies for not stepping forward when we launch this operation. In their defense, they didn't know it was coming. They hadn't planned on anything. We didn't ask them. We said we don't need them. And now they're scrambling to put something together. I think if we end up with an agreement with Iran that there is a framework for shipping in the Persian Gulf and there's a need for additional security, they will step up and provide support for that. So, you know, Poland gets it. We know the Baltics get it. France, Germany, and England are enjoying circumventing us, enjoying the hostilities back at us. And I think it really happened since Greenland. Well, Greenland was a factor because they were all taken aback and insulted by the idea of our taking over territory from a NATO ally. But even among that group of countries that you named, there's nuances. The French have sent an aircraft carrier through this U.S. Canal, and it's heading toward the Persian Gulf. The Germans have just been smug, as you say. The British have done both. They have Keir Starmer saying some things publicly that are very critical of President Trump and the U.S. policy and yet they've also been helping in more reliable ways through the military so it's a nuanced picture What I hope is that we understand that apart from our upset with them about Iran, NATO serves a genuine purpose and does it well, which is to make sure that the transatlantic area is secure and nobody's attacking Europe. That means our biggest trading partners, investors, allies, et cetera, are all safe. And if that were to fall apart, we'd have bigger global problems than we have now. So bring us up to date in how you read the Ukrainian situation. Their innovation on drones, their innovation on long-range missiles is phenomenal. They actually have robots fighting in battles, a video of Russians surrendering to a robot two weeks ago. Yep. What could you tell me about that, Ambassador Volker? I'd say that the war has taken yet another turn in the past three to six months. Remember how this started. Russia had a big invasion in 22. The Ukrainians pushed that back, you know, 75% of that invasion. Then we've had a pretty static line of contact for a couple of years.

Now the Ukrainians have out-innovated the Russians. So they are able to strike deep into Russia. They're hitting oil refineries so that Russia is not able to export as much oil or gas as they would have otherwise been able to do. They're hitting the export loading facilities. Vladimir Putin is having trouble with his finances because of the sanctions. And on the front line, the Ukrainians now have an advantage both in drones and in counter drone. so that they are blunting any effort by Russia to advance. Russia lost 35,000 troops in the month of April. 35,000, amazing. 35,000 in one month. So that is an extraordinary number, and they can't replace that number month to month with recruitment. So Vladimir Putin is running into a lot of difficulties. And you see this just this coming week. He wanted a ceasefire for his main island. He promised already that they're not going to have any military equipment in their big military parade because they're afraid of that getting hit and they need it in the front line and it's probably embarrassingly old. Now the Ukrainian said, okay, we'll do a ceasefire and if you respect that, we'll respect yours. The Russians didn't respect the Ukrainian ceasefire, so now they're not even going to have a ceasefire for their May 9th parade. And people in Russia are looking at this and seeing Vladimir Putin is in a weak position. Yeah, I mean, things, if you want them sincerely in any type of ceasefire talks, they have to be forced there. Same thing with Iranians. They got to be forced. How they get there is everything to do with the success. And also hearing some stories about them bulking up security around Vladimir Putin. How real is his, how much should he be worried? Well, the Ukrainians have taken out a few very senior generals with car bombs. They now have drones that have flown into Moscow, and they've hit a few things in Moscow. So the Russians have to take seriously that given the opportunity, the Ukrainians might be able to hit them. So I think they are taking serious steps for that. And that's another reason why this May 9th parade is a big risk for Vladimir Putin. He's going to be out there in the open. celebrating the great victory in World War II, but clearly they'll be taking extraordinary security measures just in case anything happens. And Ambassador Boko, is it true that it looks like Ukraine, once this ends and even while they're fighting, they're going to be, they're going to be in the drone business. No one's better. No one knows more. And now, all of a sudden, we have Europe who are willing customers, right? Right. That's exactly right. And again, Brian, we talked about this earlier. The issue is asymmetry. We produce the best air defense systems, the best Patriot missiles, et cetera, in the world, without doubt. But they are really expensive. And these shahead drones that the Russians and the Iranians are using are, you know, $20,000 to $30,000 of pops. So you could produce hundreds of thousands of them.

And it's too expensive to use hundreds of thousands of Patriot missiles. You've got to have something else to take down the drones. And this is what the Ukrainians have figured out. They're getting a 95% success rate and hundreds of drones fired at them every night. Do you realize Volodymyr Zelensky's leadership in the middle of a war to keep their countries head in it at the same time get your scientists and engineers? working on ways to get on top of things while trying to survive. I mean, I don't, I'm sure he's got his critics. I'm sure he's not playing the perfect game, but I'm in awe of what he's accomplished for a guy that's never been a political office. Yep. He has shown great leadership in Ukraine, inspiring the people and standing up for the country. But you've got to give it to the Ukrainian people as well. They've always been underestimated. You know, Stalin tried to kill millions of them with the Holamor. They were fighting in World War II. They have been oppressed through the Soviet period. And yet they have drive. They have resilience. They are determined to fight. for their country. We've got to have a lot of admiration for Ukrainian people. Ambassador Kurt Volker, thanks so much. Thank you. All right. And we'll stay up to date in the latest deal points. You're listening to the Brian Kilmeade. Don't move. Politics, current events, and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmeade.

talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kilmeade. Hey, welcome back. Welcome back. I want to learn along with Kurt Volker, but there's just so much going on right now. I just wanted to get the most out of that with Ukraine in both places. And he's in the unique position to talk about what the world's thinking as well as understanding Trump's thinking. So that's why I thought was really important. But the other thing that... that we've just been going, I'm going to be talking to Roger Zachheim about is what's going on on the right? I mean, should the Republicans start getting going for these cities and these blue states? Because it's so refreshing to see a legitimate debate that we have here in our channel. But have it for an office. And if you listen to Spencer Pratt, and I'm going to play some of that and we get back, if you listen to that debate that they're having about illegal immigrants, if you see the governor's race in California and they talk about should you give health care to illegal immigrants, of course you shouldn't. Not that you don't care about them. I know they use the emergency room, but if you do that and give that, you're just going to get more of that. They just don't understand that. The whole transient thing, the whole green dream, which is a really, in many cases, is a scam. They're still doubling, tripling down on that. Would you like to see that debate real time? Because if it's Democrat against Democrat, it's who is less worse. There's no real choice. For these people in these cities, they say, well, I have to live here. I've got to work here. I guess I've got to live with this school with thought. But now you're getting an alternative. Could this be just the beginning? A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmeade. What's going to happen in November and it's going to come as a big shock to you. People don't like corruption. They don't like the White House looking like eBay. And you have sold, if it ain't nailed down, you've sold everything. And they don't like a set of politics that goes from the rule of law to the rule of one man. And they're going to reject crony capitalism that has been out of the rule of what's happening at the White House. And you're going to get your comeuppance. And you can say all you want about socialism. I can tell you right now that's not where the Democratic Party is. It's about building the belt glasses. That escalates you quickly. Glenn, I want to come. The most popular leaders in the Democrat Party today are a vile socialist. I want to compliment you. I want to. And I want the most popular leader in the Republican Party has sold everything that's not nailed down. Yeah, well, you can say whatever you want. He's not selling anything. What he's trying to do is bring in things for the country. And that is Rahm Emanuel debating Glenn Youngkin. And Rahm Emanuel is a traditional. It'll be a traditional debate with him, I think. You know, he knows about the transports issue. And he knows that you need capitalism. And I don't think he was a good mayor. But he's light years better than the mayor they have now. So he is looking to run. He's the only one out there just saying, I'm running for president. But the people that are getting the most heat.

Or whoever Bernie Sanders likes. Roger Zakheim, Washington, Director of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute joins us now. Roger, he, Glenn Youngkin's absolutely right. All the momentum's behind the socialist. Bernie Sanders has become the rock star from the outcast to the rock star. It is remarkable how the Democratic Party is being completely driven and led by the progressive far left. It tells you something when Rahm Emanuel gets most coverage in the Wall Street Journal. Perhaps the death knell for any Democratic hopeful is when the Wall Street Journal is the one advancing your talking points. And it's a reflection that the Democratic Party is not particularly interested in supporting someone with his voice. Would you also say to your point is that the Senate candidates, they're going for the Michigan job that Mike Rogers, I hope, is going to get, and the ones are going for the main Senate seat that Susan Collins has, this Graham Platner. I mean, these guys are socialist. Graham Platner said, I'm a communist. Yeah, I mean, the tattoo is really the best reflection of how lost. The Democratic Party nominee in Maine is. And the voters there have a choice between that. And Susan Collins, who, I mean, for Maine voters, there's no one they can look to who does more for that state than Susan Collins being senior on the Appropriations Committee. Forget about the national politics. Just an elected official that is squarely focused and interests of voters. You know, to extend anybody thought that was in play. I don't think you're going to look at look at as a pickup opportunity for Democrats. And yeah, in Michigan, Mike Rogers. But he's winning. Roger, he's winning in the polls. The guy with the Nazi tattoo is winning in the pulse. And he blames it on PTSD, which is an insult to everyone with PTSD. But go ahead. I just think of the end, Susan Collins, if someone knows how to win the elections, she's a proven record of doing that. And she'll make. everybody in that they understand the difference, the contrast here. But I think the broader reflection of the Democratic Party is that this is where their base goes. This is where, you know, what's attracting them. And I think it's a small element, but it's an active element in primary contests. So a couple of things. I'm also seeing in my city here in New York City. And I just had Bruce Blakeman in, and Bruce Blakeman's running for the be of the governor. He's within, he's in single digits now, which is significant. And then we see the mayor's race, Spencer Prads, come out of nowhere. And he's giving Karen Bass a run for her money. And then it looks like Steve Hilton's going to get to the finals when it comes to the governor's race. So I like that Republicans are competing for these jobs. It makes the debate so more black and white. I mean, people say don't waste your money, but I think it's important for them to fight for these jobs because they get to hear them say, I do want to give health care to legal immigrants. I do think ICE is a horrible organization. They are the Gestapo. They are Americans in law enforcement. I do want to hear it defund it. Rather than seeing two people saying how bad they are, you make them defend their positions, at which time I think the American people understand where they should stand.

Absolutely. I mean, you have to give the American people a choice and hold these, whether it's a city or statewide, like you're talking about, California, hold them accountable for the point of view that they're representing. You know, I was just sitting on this moment ago. Those that vote in primaries are quite different that those are voting in general election are where Democrats are overall. And when they see the conscience, you point out, you know, people are talking about fundamentals that most Democrats support. free markets, you know, capitalism. They do not support, you know, socialism. This is not a choice. It shouldn't be a choice between a Republican and a member of the, you know, Democratic Socialists of America. And that's what they're getting in many of these elections. And so the contrast, the choice, the debate that you're describing is absolutely essential. And I think they're going to pick up interest and support. I hope that will happen in California, and we'll see what happens in some of the other races you're describing. And you know, when people say, I remember, Bruce Zomer and Zohran Mamdani got elected and said, we should not have billionaires in this country. Really? He got away with that. Really? No billionaires? So we should tell that to Barack Obama, by the way, because he's a billionaire a few times over. So Ken Griffin is one of them. He sat in front of his apartment, said that he's the problem. Secondary, second home, we should tax him more. Here's what Ken Griffin said about that, who's about to invest $6 billion into New York City, cut 46. It was creepy and weird. Agreed. I mean, like knock, knock, knock on the window. Like, huh. mayor of New York City. Yeah, on the screen. Yeah. How many times have you watched that video? Three. Like, you literally look at the first time, you're like, you gotta be kidding me. Okay? And then the second time, you're like, you know what, this is actually, this has gone from creepy to actually not really creepy. This has gone frightening. Because, you know, the CEO of United Healthcare was killed just a few blocks from my house. And anything that creates like an agitation in the extremist. on either side of the aisle is a frightening dynamic. I mean, you know, if we look at what happened in D.C. So. He's 100% right. It only happened two blocks from this office from my studio. And it happened two blocks from where his apartment is, $238 million. And now we understand too, Mark Rowan, who is the head of Apollo. He is going to take his $6 billion, and he's going to be going to be going to go to Miami or he's going to be looking to go to Texas. He paid $1.2 billion in taxes. And the year before he played $1.62 billion in taxes. Somehow, Roger Zackheim, we think they're the bad guys. Well, when you have the mayor vilifying these people and targeting them, I mean, it's completely inappropriate. It is undemocratic. It is beneath any elected official to do that. And it incites the sort of violence that that was referencing before.

It's a fundamental different view. And it's why people are leaving. That's why they left California. That's why they leave New York. Do you view the world? Do you view the opportunity of this country as some sort of fixed pie that... You just have to redistribute within the pie, which is Zohran Mamdani's outlook. That's a socialist outlook. It's a recipe for decline. It's a recipe for enlarging the state and reliance on government. Or are you willing to invest in a country that promises growth and opportunity? And Ken Griffin, I mean, God bless him. He's made his money. He's done that because this country gives people opportunity, which you continue to adopt policies. that invite those opportunities that allow people to improve their station in life. Marco Rubio, you know, you took over as press secretary of the day in the White House, and that's exactly what he was talking about. That's a positive vision for America. It's not targeting individuals. It's not blaming people for their success. It's actually a set of policy that we can employ. This is where Republicans should be doing. policies we can employ that say, hey, we're going to create the conditions, market conditions, economic conditions so you can enhance your station in life, the opportunity is there for you to grow. And Zohran Mamdani is the exact opposite of that. And then people in New York City will regret this. There's no down in my mind. The thing is, there used to be people like, if you look at John Kerry and Bill Clinton and Al Gore, they knew what socialism was. He said, okay, that's what they think. I'm not saying they were socialist, but they wanted more social programs, clearly. They weren't going to put as much money into defense. I'm not sure this guy really understands what socialism is. I'm not sure he understands like that stand up that he did in Ken Griffin's house is not going to, it's going to hurt his budget. He has a $5.4 billion deficit. Does he not understand how you close a deficit? I don't think that's what he cares about. I think he's all for demonizing those who are successful in this country. I think he is trying to create some of those populist fervor on the far left where people look at him as a way to sort of cut others down to enhance their station in life to redistribute wealth to those, you know, under him. And, you know, I think that's a recipe for loss. It's a recipe for decline. I don't think he's interested in balancing budgets. I think he wants to demonize those who are successful and have made their wealth through the opportunities this country gives them. So, Roger, we're in the middle of gerrymandering madness, and it looks like after that Louisiana decision, we are going to see Tennessee, maybe North Carolina, and we're going to see Alabama. Louisiana itself, try to squeeze more Republican seats out. We know that Florida is being challenged, but they, they squeezed out four more if the maps hold and it looks that they could hold. Your thoughts about what we're going through right now? I don't like this overall. I get it that the responsibility of the state legislature is to try to increase the seats and gerrymanding Osange de O'Connor said is just part of that.

responsibility. But doing this in the off years and seeking to maximize the opportunity off year and having legislation to do this, you know, leads to really bad outcomes. I mean, the worst of that, I think, is Virginia. I mean, you basically have districts right now that are split evenly. I think it's like six, five. And the way they would go is 10 out 11 would be Democratic. And that's disenfranchising voters. It truly is. So, you know, we got some Republicans who are punished for not seeking the gerrymander redistricting in Indiana. They lost their primaries because it went against what President Trump wanted. But I think overall, this is a loss, a net loss for the American voter. given all these activities, you know, going across from Texas to California, Virginia, and some of the states you just mentioned. Yeah, I do, I do notice, too, that with all this going back and forth, I think the midterms are very much in play for both sides. You know, people are, oh, President Trump's on pipe. Well, he's out of war that's been 47 years in the making. He made a very tough decision to do it, but the fundamentals of the economy are strong. I don't think either body has been decided. The gerrymandering, I think, helps the Republicans, and I think they're going to walk away with more possibilities. And we're in an era now, Roger, where it's going to be only maybe 10 seats between either party whoever wins, most. Yeah, I mean, I think the Senate is certainly something that Republicans are an opportunity to hold. I just not going to be in the business of predicting what happens in the House. It is, as we all know, it's tight in both chambers, but there's so much in play within courts. but just where the American voter is that I don't quite have a feel for it. I mean, even a gerrymandered district, you know, or, you know, it assumes, you know, some sort of safe seat depending on, on, on, on where that particular district is, you know, if you could see a shift, I don't see a blue wave, but you might happen in a couple of pockets in this country. So yeah, the house to me is, you know, probably. I'd see that that Republican majority at severe risk. I think the Republican majority of the Senate for some of the race that we're just talking about like Maine, for example, I think we're going to be okay. And I think the president on the Warner-on is doing the right thing. That's why that's the role of the commander-in-chief. You know, it's not about the next election cycle. It's about what you need to do. to protect the American people. And as you noted, for 47 years, we have not done what was required to deal with the threat posed by Iran. And President Trump is doing it. And I hope we'll finish the job. I do too. And I just don't see Iran signing off on all 14 points. If they are that desperate there, and that means they're about to break. If they feel as though they have a bounce in their step, I think we'll end up back in battle. What's your thought in the final 20 seconds? Yeah, I mean...

Iran's fractured. I don't know how you make an agreement at this stage. I mean, we decapitated that regime and they're a mess. And the people negotiating can't speak for the people with the weapons sitting along the coast in Iran that just reportedly took out a Chinese vessel. So I don't know how we actually realize an agreement, given how fractured this regime is. I do know. President Trump, whenever he decides to end this thing, it needs to end with the straight of our moves open. We can't be worse than the status quo. Jack. Roger, Zach. I'm always great. Thanks so much. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmeade. More. To know. Sponsored by Previgen. Previgin, made for your brain. All right, let's take a break from the headlines and talk about the other stories that are important. How about this? President Trump is hyping up what he calls the first of its kind, and it is, by the way, UFC event at the White House June 14th. June 14th, we're having a big fight. It's never going to happen again. Never happened before. And it's all of the best fighters. The best four fighters standing right behind me and all champions. And it's going to happen right in front of the White House. We're going to have 4,000 seats. Right in front of the front door of the White House. How great is that? He called the fire at the greatest in the world, and he kind of took questions after that about Iran. Next, Kentucky Derby winner, Golden Tempo to bypass the Preakness stakes and will not attempt to Triple Crown. That's kind of sad at the Preakness May 16th. They say we are incredibly appreciative of the excitement and supporting the Triple Crown run, but the enthusiasm from racing fans, our owners, and our entire team has meant more to us than we can properly express, but they're not going to do it. Next. Travis Kelsey says he can't wait for his upcoming wedding to Taylor Swift and he said it on his podcast. Guest was Rory Maca Rory compared hosting the Master Championship Dinner also to his wedding day, good safe bet. Let's listen to a little of it. It's an incredible night and like to be sitting in that room. It's a bit like, and Travis, you'll feel this, you'll feel this year whenever you're sitting at your wedding and you have all the people in a room. From, it's so, it's amazing to have all these people in the same room from your childhood to people that you've, like, it's just, you're just sitting there and it's like surreal. It's like unbelievable. The only thing that I can compare it to is your wedding day because it's like all this collection of people in the same room. It's like wild. I can't wait. That's a conversation very few of us can have. The wedding, yes, but winning the Masters in the Super Bowl? No. Next, FD announces its first okay of the fruit-flavored e-cigarettes for adults. It's the newly authorized e-cigarette campaign. It comes in mango and blueberry. I thought we realized that vaping is bad. Why are we allowing this? Fresh menthol, gold, that makes no sense. I do not support this. Next.

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