Brian Kilmeade ShowJune 2, 202617m

Julian Epstein: Centrist Democrats Are Fleeing the Socialist Left

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Yeah, Melissa and I are in the same camp, and I agree with everything you said on your setup. I think the rise of socialism is a reflection of something even deeper that's happening inside the Democratic Party, which is most of the politicians, most of the activist class, the academic class don't know anything about building the way the old Democratic Party did, the way the Democratic Party did during the Clinton years. So if you don't know how to build, if you don't know how to... If you don't know anything about how wealth is created, how prosperity is created. What you tend to sell is deconstructionism, tearing down. And I think what you're seeing with a lot of these movements on the left is this notion that we want to undermine Western exceptionalism because it's a cheap and easy thing to sell to voters. If you're frustrated with something in your life, if you're not as happy that your neighbor may have more success than you do. then we're going to sell you this lie, this con job, that the system is unfair and that the only way to rectify the oppression of the system is through destroying the system. And that's what I think is increasingly happening on the left. It's certainly in the activist class. It's certainly in the academic class. And those are the feeders, Brian, for the political class. And I share your... Lament, I share your concern about what it means for the country. So Melissa told me yesterday she formed a super PAC. You should join pushing back against socialism in the Democratic Party. And that should be a part of what, because you always talk about that. So I want to bring it to another socialist slash he called himself a communist, Graham Platner over in Maine. These are some of the things that he's done. May liberal use of slurs intended to demean homosexuals and mentally disabled. praised Hamas' raid that killed five Israelis, embraced political violence, called rural Americans, racist and stupid, identified as communist and socialist, downplayed the seriousness of sexual assault and rape, mocked a Purple Heart soldier said he should have died and mocked the way he handled himself and ridiculed the Taliban for not killing him, which is unbelievable to me. And now he's got this sexting scandal where he was in constant contact with eight women. Here he is yesterday, cut 18. But the stories are true, right, about the texts? No, no, this is the amazing part. The Wall Street Journal, New York Times, ran stories without any evidence besides the gossip from a former staffer. I'm sorry, that's frankly, journalistic malpractice. That staffer was told by his wife when they were saying, before I start running, let me just tell you that he's got some problems because he's on these websites, unsavory dating websites, not conventional websites, while married, is this going to be a problem? And that person came forward to the New York Times and Wall Street Journal. So now he's in Washington pleading his case, don't abandon me. What do you think they're going to do? Well, it's funny to watch the Democrats squirm on this. You know, there was just nothing but five, six, seven years of girl clutching about every allegation that was made about Donald J. Trump, whether it was true or false. And now you have all of this personal stuff coming out about Graham Platner. It's not just the report I heard this morning was sexting with 12 different women after he was married. My bad.

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His account on kick with that photo that I don't think is a very flattering photo, the discussion of prostitutes and masturbation and portgons and sort of all of these things, the mocking of the soldiers, all of this weird psychopathic stuff that paint a... you know, sort of a weird, bizarre personal profile of this guy. But to watch Democrats sort of squirming when they were, you know, so morally righteous about these issues when it came to the other side, I just think it shows that the Democrats use their sort of use. those issues as a way to gain power and they don't really subscribe to them in a sincere way. But the real pornography, Brian, I think that you pointed out, was the fact that he makes common cause with terrorists. It's not just a Nazi tattoo. It's the fact that he is consistently champion Hamas, which is a terrorist, racist, ethno-nationalist movement. The closest thing to Nazism we've seen, that's what... the crown prince of Saudi Arabia has said the closest thing to modern-day nazism we've seen and he finds common cause with them it's funny democrats go around calling people Nazis and fascists all the time that they can't even recognize when nazism and fascism is coming into their midst in a much more serious significant way So the number of contradictions and hypocrisy that's going on in the left here is extraordinary to me. And what it tells me is that Democrats don't have much of a bench. They are finding these people that have no experience that have these bizarre backgrounds. And that the only thing that takes to get in the gate is to have this sort of anti-Western deconstructionist. Let's bring revolution to the system. because of a criticism, a so-called criticism of a system that they don't themselves really understand. You know, the West has done more for poor people and middle-class people than any civilization ever in the history of humankind. It has done more to secure the economic opportunity for all of its citizens. It's not perfect. And the individual liberty, more than any system ever. And these clowns on the socialist left come out talking about the oppression of the system. Well, like, as compared to what? Name, identify a system for me that has done more to advance the economic opportunity of billions of people, literally billions throughout the world, and the individual liberty. There's no system ever that even comes close. There's nobody competing with Western exceptionalism. But these clowns don't understand that and they're selling this oppression oppressor.

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a press-to-pressor framework because they don't know anything else. They can't sell anything else. They've never built anything. None of these clowns have ever been involved in building a business, meeting a payroll. They don't know how to build. So all they sell to the voters is, you know, we're going to tap into whatever resentment you have and say it's the fault of the system. And it is, as you pointed out in your setup piece, Brian, it is really, really poisonous to what has been a you know, a magical experiment with American democracy. Instagram teen accounts default teens into automatic protections for who can contact them and the content they can see. Explore teen accounts and all of our ongoing work to protect teens online at Instagram.com slash teen accounts. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox Newswinshop.com with code FNRadio 20. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 order to order. Please drink responsibly. So I want you to hear Bernie Sanders is not abandoning him. Senator Gary Peters says, I'm going to wait to see what he says. Adam Schiff says I won't endorse him. Cory Booker says he's got some explaining to do, but not Bernie. Cut 19. So I think maybe we should be focusing on the important issues facing working people throughout this country, not focusing on his marriage. And my understanding is that his wife, Amy, who I've met, indicated they love each other. But maybe we focus on the issues facing the American people, the people who need, and not the marriage issues facing grand planning. But is sending sexually explicit messages, does that make you, is that the right person for office? Are you at all rethinking your endorsement? Oh, certainly not. Certainly not. So sticking with them, sticking with the socialist everywhere. So, and you got about 40 primary sitting people right now. Is there any down in your mind, Julian, that when the Republicans, when the Democrats get on stage for the presidential debates, they're going to be asked how many people are for cutting off aid to Israel and every handle go up except maybe Josh Shapiro? I think that's right, Brian, the way that the Democrats were asked in the 2020 election, how many of you are for decriminalizing border crossings? Yes, this is a, it's a race to the bottom. I think this anti-Israel movement is very adjacent to anti-Semitism. Let's import. Let's import tens of millions from the third world and let's get rid of all the Jews. That's sort of the, that seems to be what the left is hinting at right now. And I think you're going to see, Ryan, an exodus of not just Jews, but centrist from the Democratic Party. We've spoken before on this program about the realignment in the middle class. We spoke about that in the days leading up to the 2024 election. Well, I think you're going to see.

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a major Jewish defection. It's been about 70-30 for Democrats. I think you're going to see a major Jewish defection. I think you're also going to see a defection of sort of centrist, independent, centrist Democrats who believe in national security, believe Israel is the most pluralistic democracy that is, that defends. human rights you can criticize all you want about gaza uh but what israel was doing in gaza was taking out a terrorist network of 300 miles of underground networks you know the basic the basic you know truth is if israel laid down its arms today All of Israel would be slaughter. Ten million Israelis would be slaughtered. If Hamas laid down its arms, there would be peace. So there's a complete lack of moral clarity, and I think it's going to translate into more political trouble for the Democrats. And, you know, I for one, am certainly not going to support a Democratic Party that wants to defund Israel. And I think there's a lot of fellow travelers with me. Lastly, she's back. The Bidens are back to explain themselves, and they are absolutely clueless that the landscape has changed and nobody's covering their backside. Here's Jill Biden, try to explain herself after the debate by keeping her husband in the race, cut 54. If you could go back in a time machine and do it all over again, would you have encouraged him maybe to not run again? You know, as I look back, would I want to put Joe through the hurt and the pain that we felt during that time? Never. Never. I mean, it was so hurtful. So it sounds like you're saying if you could do it all over again, you probably would have encouraged him to be a one-term president. But it had to be his decision, Craig. It had to be his decision alone because he had to live with that decision the rest of his life. I couldn't say, Joe, do this or Joe do that. It was his decision to run in the first place, only his, even though the family... had their input, especially the grandchildren. But, you know, it was his decision to get out. So I have a few things to say, but Julian, what do you have to say about that? I mean, it's such a gaslight. Everyone knows she was pushing for him to run. Everyone knows she knew better than anyone else about his decrepit mental state. It's a con job on her part, but everyone expects that from her. She's sort of a villain, the villainous of the 2024 campaign. But what I find interesting, Brian, is all of these Democrats attacking her now saying, you know, she was sort of part of the cover up.

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They were part of the cover-up. The entire Democratic Party, we knew about Biden's state in 2021 in Afghanistan in August of 2021, and when you didn't know where his general's positions were. So the fact that the Democrats are now covering their own asses and saying, oh, look how villainous Jill Biden is. The entire Democratic Party was part of this cover-up. I was arguing this, as you know, with you and others, that he should have. as early as 2022 and 23 that he had no business funding for re-election. The level of dishonesty, the layers of dishonesty here is just, you know, job smack, jaw dropping. And Julian is going to get worse. She's really willing to have 30 seconds, but Joe Biden's going to do his bio now. When that comes out, is this going to bring this whole thing up again? Is that a nightmare for Democrats? I think that most Democrats wish he would get off the stage. I don't know who's going to write his biography. I don't think it's going to be him. And I just think there is this, there is this tireless thirst for redemption. And I think there is no redemption for the Democrats in 2024. Yeah, we'll see who we'll see who's going to emerge. Julian Epstein, thanks so much. It's a big primary day. I can't believe how we're interested in June. Julian Epstein, thank you.