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It is Friday, March 13th, 2026. I'm Guy Benson. Welcome to Guy Benson. We're in New York City today. Thank you so much for tuning in. 3 to 6 p.m. Eastern, every weekday. And then on our podcast, it's free on demand. When the show is over, plus bonus Guy Benson on the weekends. Guy Benson.com, one option there, Fox News, podcast.com, another option, or wherever you get, your favorite podcasts. I'm a political analyst here at Fox News. senior columnist at the Washington Examiner. I'll be on Gutfeld tonight, 10 p.m. Eastern on the Fox News Channel. Looking forward to that. I will also be... on the special report panel this evening a bit earlier on, around 645 Eastern. That's on the news channel as well. Shannon Bream filling in for Brett Bayer. Then I'll be co-hosting the big weekend show tomorrow and Sunday evenings, three hours apiece, 5 to 8 p.m. Eastern Fox News Channel, so a lot of busy TV work ahead. One more thing. I'll be filling in for Will Kane on Monday 4 p.m. Eastern Fox News Channel hosting that show in that hour. So hope you will have an opportunity to see me all over TV in the days to come. Here at the program, in addition to our website, Guy Benson.com, we have an email address as well. GBS at Fox.com. You can send us a note there. Follow us on social media, Guy Benson across the platforms. You can follow me personally, Guy Benson. On the radio today, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will join us later this hour. The great, the lovely Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Fox News, cultural icon. Then Taylor Riggs from the Fox Business Network on the economy, some more news mixed, I would say in the last two days on GDP growth, jobs, inflation will ask Taylor to make sense of that. Any movement may be at the Fed. Gordon Chang, previewing President Trump's upcoming trip to China. Does he think that's a good idea? What might we get out of that? We'll ask Gordon. And then the return of France. Friday's with Cat. Cat Timph, she's been back on the job for the last couple of weeks after an extended leave, cannot wait to catch up with her about all sorts of things, probably mostly apolitical, which will be fun. That is in our final hour right around 5 p.m. Eastern time. So a lot to get to over the course of today's program. I want to start with what happened yesterday, and we covered this on the show live as the news was breaking. Two, jihadist attacks in the United States of America in one day. Four now total in the last two weeks. You had Austin, Texas, the property of Allah sweatshirt wearing guy with an Iranian flag. He shot and killed some people outside a bar in Austin, Texas. Then there was the attempted mass casualty bombing in New York City. Jihadists screaming Allahou Akbar, throwing the bomb in the direction of, quote, right-wing protesters. We saw that outside Gracie Mansion, the mayor's house in New York City. And then yesterday, Old Dominion University in Virginia, and then another incident at a synagogue in Michigan. And we talked a bit about those early facts as they came in yesterday. And there's a few things that I want to say. First of all.

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Let's listen to President Trump's reaction. He was on with Brian Kilmeade on Fox News Radio earlier today. The president reacting to the terrorist attack starting in cut five. It's a disgrace. They're six. They're really demented people and has been going on for a long time. They come into the country. They sneak in. You know, we have a solid border now. We have a border that's 100%. Nine months, nobody coming in. But they came in, and they came in a lot through Biden, and they came in through other presidents, frankly. And it's a disgrace. But what we took in over the last four years, four years preceding, might take it because we had that border pretty well wrapped up within three months. And he could have done the same thing. We took in 25 million people, and many of those people came from bad places. So it's a shame. Then there was a question about the Jewish community clearly targeted in Michigan as the jihadist attacker rammed his car into a synagogue, which doubles as a Jewish school, and then got into a shootout with armed security because Jews need armed security all across the country. Now, that is the era in which we live. Armed security, if there are Jewish people present in large numbers at a school, at a camp, At a synagogue, they're going to have armed security exactly for this reason. The scourge of anti-Semitism, often dressed up or excused as anti-Zionism, is disgusting. This guy also reportedly had some explosive devices in the car. I've seen some reports on that as well. The president reacting to this latest attack on the Jewish community in Cut 6. I want to send our love to the Michigan Jewish community and all of the people in Detroit, the Detroit area following the attack on the Jewish synagogue early today. And I've been briefed, fully briefed. Yeah. So. We've seen also statements of outrage over the attack and condolences from a lot of political figures who spend all the rest of their time demonizing the Jewish state and encouraging, if not participating in the globalized the intifada mob. When they talk about globalizing the Intifada, this is what they mean. Violent attacks on Jews. And you don't get to foment that. You don't get to be with the river to the sea, globalize the Intifada crowd, and then turn around when someone globalizes the Intifada and say, oh, no, hate has no home here. Own it. Own what's happening. And it makes me angry to watch some of these two-faced people pretend like their... ugly mission, their ugly allies, their ugly movement, or the people at least that they're willing to indulge in that movement, can be separated from these acts of vile terrorism. They are directly related. Now, President Trump in that clip from Brian Kilmeade was talking about security at the border and people sneaking into the country illegally. The thing is,

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Both of these attackers yesterday, who were both dead, by the way, are naturalized citizens of the United States, which raises a lot of questions about naturalized citizens and potential denaturalization. We've seen some of these calls starting to bubble up, understandably. I want to talk just briefly about the fact patterns because in Michigan... The guy from the Dearborn area responsible. And you see some people already trying to quasi excuse what he did. Oh, to be sure they say we cannot condone the violence. But did you know that he had family targeted and killed by the Israelis in Lebanon? He's Lebanese American. So, you know, this is maybe why he was so mad. That's kind of the implication, if not the explicit point that some people are making. Number one, let's say the Israelis accidentally took out his entire family, including innocent kids in Lebanon. That would also not justify ramming your car into a Jewish synagogue and trying to kill innocent Jewish children in the United States. That should go without saying, but I think these days it has to be said out loud because a lot of people might say, oh, well, if the Israelis did that, what are you going to do? I mean, it kind of makes sense why he would go off the way that he did. That type of collective punishment that they've actually accused Israel of in Gaza, but was actually the case here by this terrorist, it is utterly twisted, demented, quote-unquote, logic. Oh, something happened over there by a government in the Middle East, and therefore someone in Michigan gets to go try to kill a bunch of Jews because he was angry about what allegedly happened to his family? No. That's not how this works. That's not how this can work. Secondly, as it turns out, this man's brothers were targeted in Lebanon because they were members of Hezbollah, a terrorist organization, as designated by the entire West, by the United States government for many, many years under both parties. Hezbollah is a terrorist organization funded in Iran by what is left of the regime in Iran. They were card-carrying, uniform-wearing members of Hezbollah. So maybe that's why the Israelis were targeting them. So that would strike me as a completely justified act of war because Hezbollah has been attacking Israel yet again recently in the last couple days in case you didn't know. Of course the Israelis should be fighting Hezbollah. Hezbollah has a ton of American blood on its hands as well. That would be why Israel did what they did over there. And even if it weren't justified, even if the fact pattern were different, it still would not excuse in any way, shape, or form an anti-Semitic attack targeting a house of worship and a school in Michigan thousands of miles away. I also wondered, how much vetting do we actually do when we make people citizens of this country? Like, did we have any inkling that this guy had siblings in Hezbollah? Would that have factored into our choice on naturalizing him in the first place? I think that's an important question. Then there's the attack in Virginia, because I'm going to return to Michigan and a certain senator from the state of Michigan in just a moment, but this is also important to note. In Virginia at Old Dominion, and we did glancingly touch on this yesterday, the alleged jihadist shooter, the terrorist, who's now room temperature, taken out, by the way, by cadets, ROTC.

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They didn't have guns. They took him down. One guy apparently gutted him with his knife. So kudos to those brave men who saved lives, taking down the jihadist at Old Dominion. He opened fire, trying to kill as many people as possible. He shouted Allahou Akbar, two of the scariest words that you might hear ever. In this type of context, someone burst into a room and shouts those words. I don't think it's going to end well. And it's not like this came out of nowhere. Who could have seen this coming? I think everyone could have seen it coming because this man had previously been convicted of trying to join ISIS, one of the most radical, violent, evil terror organizations ever to walk the face of the earth. This man, a naturalized citizen. So we welcomed him into America. We gave him citizenship. He's from Africa. Then he tried to join ISIS. We caught him. We put him on trial. And for some reason, a judge decided not to give him the maximum sentence. Prosecutors were seeking two decades. He was given far less than that. And then he was let out early. So leniency atop leniency after the welcoming gesture of come on into the country, become a citizen great, then he tries to join ISIS. We don't throw the book at him. We let him out early. And rather than saying, you know what, you have surrendered your citizenship. You have now disqualified yourself from U.S. citizenship. Let's go through the process of denaturalization and deportation. We let him stay. And then he was screaming aloha Akbar as he was targeting military ROTC cadets at an American college campus. This is suicidal behavior from any country, let alone a country that considers itself serious. We have to have a major conversation about denaturalization. Because in my mind, it shouldn't even be controversial. I cannot, for the life of me, understand the argument against taking away the granted citizenship. It's not like he was born here. He was not a natural born citizen. He was naturalized. If you go through the process, the process should be eligible for being undone. And to me, at the very top of the list for undoing a citizenship process and denaturalization would be trying to join ISIS. Not some allegation, not some curious online posts. This was a conviction. He tried to join ISIS. That should result in the strongest prison sentence possible. And then immediate denaturalization, preferably wall behind bars, so deportation can occur the second he's out. And yet none of those things happen. And the guy who told everyone, hello, I'm a jihadist who wants to kill innocent people, then tried to kill innocent people after getting out of prison. The leopard did not change his spots. And we're just sitting around saying, oh gosh, I guess there were some red flags. What the hell are we doing in this country? How could this, especially in that case, be allowed to happen? Let me pause for a moment. When we come back, I want to talk about a United States senator from Michigan where one of these attacks happened and something that she said just today. Let's explore that next.

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In the swamp, not of the swamp. Guy Benson. At Walmart, we're helping our associates build meaningful careers. One way we're doing that? Investing $1 billion in training and education. Last year, more than 100,000 associates earned promotions. Combined with benefits like 401K matching and paid parental leave, we're proving that Walmart isn't just a place to work, it's a place to grow. Learn more at walmart.com slash grow at Walmart. We continue here on Guy Benson talking about the two jihadist attacks yesterday here in the United States with the DHS agency shutdown, which brings us back to Michigan. And Elissa Slotkin, one of these supposedly moderate Democrats, got herself elected to the U.S. Senate in that state, a blue state, which President Trump won, by the way. There's an open Senate seat this cycle with a real chance of Republicans to pick up that seat. with the other Democrat retiring. But Elissa Slotkin and Gary Peters, the other Michigan Dem, they have been part of this filibuster to keep the Department of Homeland Security shutdown. We are weeks into yet another government shutdown. This is a partial shutdown. Right. It only impacts DHS, the rest of the government's funding. It does not impact ICE or Border Patrol because those are both funded for years under the working family's tax law, the tax cut, and the big, beautiful bill. This is the Democrats' big temper tantrum. Because they're angry at ICE. They don't want federal laws to be enforced in the immigration realm. They don't. It's an effectively or explicitly pro-illegal immigrant, pro-illegal immigration political party. And they want to signal to that rabid base. We're with you. We're mad at ICE, abolish and defund ICE. So we're going to defund DHS broadly. We can't do anything about ICE funding. So we're going to shut down the Department of Homeland Security instead. And that is exactly what they've done. Week after week after week. And as I said, there have now been four jihadist attacks on the homeland in the last two weeks. Four homeland attacks as the Department of Homeland Security is shut down. Elissa Slotkin was part of a press conference earlier where she was talking about what happened in her state, this terrorist attack. Cut 13. Listen. We have a ton of DHS folks, CBP, and so they are on the call and they are doing their jobs. Certainly, we need to fund the Department of Homeland Security, and we need, in my view, to cut away all the conversation on ICE, which is its own conversation from all the core missions of the Department of Homeland Security. But they're essential. They're on the job. They're working today. Yeah, so Homeland Security has actually been severed from ICE in terms of the funding conversation, as I already mentioned. She said, certainly, we have to fund the Department of Homeland Security. Really? Senator, that's interesting because you could have voted to fund the Department of Homeland Security literally yesterday. There is a vote in the Senate to break the filibuster and fund DHS.

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Elissa Slotkin and every single Senate Democratic, except for John Fetterman from Pennsylvania, 46 out of 47 of them, including you, Senator Elissa Slotkin, voted no, voted to keep the filibuster going, voted against the bipartisan bill to fund DHS. And now she's saying at the microphone and the camera's rolling, oh, certainly we should fund DHS. You could have done it yesterday. You and almost all of your colleagues voted no, and DHS is still shut down. And by the way, the vote to keep that filibuster going, to keep DHS closed, the Homeland Security Agency, in this threat environment, that vote ended about half an hour after Elissa Slotkin tweeted about the attack in her state. She knew there had been an attack against a synagogue in her state, and then she voted to keep the Homeland Security Department shut down. So if she wants to say, oh, certainly it should be open. Balls in your court, the Republican should call votes on this every single day and see if they still have the stomach to keep this shutdown going. It is astonishing. Guy Benson continues after this break.

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Need a laptop that's built to perform and designed to last all day? Select Windows 11 PCs starting at 49999 are now at Best Buy. Learn more at Best Buy.com. Best Buy. Imagine that. Talking about the issues you care about, Guy Benson. Back on Guy Benson. Guy Benson.com podcast is always free. This is a banger. This bumper song is a banger. Is that no doubt? That will be Robert F. Kennedy Jr., our guest here in studio. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. saves the world podcast, Fox News cultural icon. So if you're listening to the podcast, you don't hear the live bumper music, which is why it's a benefit to listen live, frankly, on our great affiliates or on the stream, et cetera, because we have, I think, superb, curated bumper songs. And that one was a remake, right? It's not an original, no doubt, but that particular version that we just turned was. It's either general public or English beat. They're interchangeable in my mind. I don't know what those are. Are those other bands? Yes. Oh, okay. But I know of no doubt and I got that one correct. Was that Gwen Stefani? Yeah, okay. All right. So I just, I got off on a tangent. Welcome back, everyone. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is in studio with us here. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., great to see you. Welcome. Guy, thank you for having me on this wonderful Friday. What a day. It is a wonderful Friday. So you have a big birthday in your household today. Yes. And it involves a pretty big birthday, I would say, for your daughter. How is it as a parent? To be planning like a teenage daughter's birthday extravagant. It's actually really fun. So, and she is an old soul. Yes. So she's a reader. She likes. You have two very different children. They could not be more different. In fact, the younger one remarked just the other day, it's amazing how two siblings can come from the same family and the same environment and turn out so differently. That is very self-aware. Yes. Did her sister, did this occur to her sister? Or is just like she recognized it or she's like too busy dealing with her life? She recognizes it. Yeah. But she's, you know, her older sister with the one who stopped us in CVS and turned around, stopped in her tracks and turned around very dramatically and looked at her sister and I and said, I am the only reason anyone in this family is cool. And I was like, thank you for that. How old was she six? No, she. She was 16 at the time. Wow. That is, that is an interesting thing to say. Is she aware of you? She is. Has she heard of you? Has she read your book? No, but I mean, she's, she goes through life with a lot of confidence. That is very confident. That is definitely true. In fact, there was, so now that we're just telling the story, there was a time years ago now, when I was at your apartment here in New York, and you had to go do something briefly. So I was. For like less than an hour, I think I even spent the night on your couch. And your daughter, the older one, the cool one, came out and was like trying to impress me. And it was like telling me all these stories about like the stuff she and her friends would do in the city. And some of it was like, she was too young to be doing, allegedly. And I was just taking it in. And like clearly she was not familiar with me and what impresses me because this was not. But she was like bragging about it. And then at one point I'm like,

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You know, I'm not sure if this is meant to impress me, but that's not working. And also, I'm friends with your mom. So, like, I'm definitely going to tell her what you told me. All of this. Like, there's nothing about this that's off the record. Like, I've barely. We're not pals. Exactly. Like, this is like, there was no pinky swear for secrecy. She was just, like, on this soliloquy of, like, teenage coolness. Yeah. And I was like, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s going to hear all of this just so you know. Because like that, okay, now I'm just like totally off the rails of the rundown, but that's okay. You, I've said this before. I said it in my toast to you at a big birthday that you had a number of years ago. And I will think it again as I toast you at your upcoming wedding. Yes, exactly. And you are designated as I think one of two toasters. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, I haven't been told to just now. Yes. Breaking news. No, I hope that's okay. Fox News alert. I did not know this until right now. And we're not opening it up. It is not open mic night. It is not a roast. Oh, now. Okay. This is pressure. Okay. So let me just say. I accept. Yes. I accept. Yes. I'm so excited. And now I'm nervous because that is going to be a small but baller crowd. Yeah. So I need to make sure that I that I hit the mark on that one. Okay. Well, thank you. I have no doubt. I have months now. And let me make a note. Prepare toast. When I first met Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. So you have this incredible life. And I said this in my toast at your birthday. in Greece, I said, you're the coolest person that I know. And that is true. And you go and you look through your life and what you've done and MTV and all like the rock stars who know you and like famous rock songs and like literally written for you and all that. Is it difficult for your daughters to like... get it that their mom is like actually I joke like cultural icon but it's real like is that something that they appreciate will they get it and appreciate it more when they're older are they in denial about it because they're in denial to me but I've actually when they don't know that I'm listening I've overheard them bragging yes and I'm like that is very interesting I was like hmm That's actually probably a healthy combination, right? They're keeping you humble. Yes. But that's, I mean, that is the job, especially of teenagers, like to bring their parents back down to earth and to remind them just how uncool they are. But, I mean, it takes quite a set of blinders to be your child and be like, I'm the only reason. And without a shred of irony, I'm the only reason this family is cool. I'm like, you know, I'm not sure that's true. I think we can, we can call up. fact check.org and get that one blown out of the water pretty fast. He might get a few Pinocchioes on that one. With all due respect, young lady, have you been called out from the stage by name by Kurt Cobain? No.

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But did your friend Bart say something at a school dance? Well, it's about equal. That's cool, though. So this is the younger daughter's birthday tonight. Yes. And in terms of the planning, she's the old soul. So like what does an old soul teenage daughter want for a birthday? You know, of course, it's like, do you want a party? And, you know, she's not. a big group kind of person. So she opted for her favorite foods at home. Her dad and his girlfriend are coming over. So it's my sexy teenage fiancé, my baby daddy, his girlfriend, who is lovely. All get along. We go to every birthday. We always have Christmas Eve. Yes. And we go to dance recitals. And we always have it. How did you pull that off? How did you pull that off? Because when we separated, we made a pact first to each other and then with our children that no matter what happened, we would always be a family and we would always do family stuff together. And we agreed that whatever issues we had, we would discuss them outside of our children. And when we got back together, we would do so amicably as a family unit. And you've all kept to it. Yes. So it was just a conscious choice and commitment. Yes. And people can do that. Like divorce attorneys are awful because they pit people against each other. And for their own benefit. For their own benefit. They draw things out. They make things emotional and complicated. And at some point, you have to look at this person and say, at some point, I decided to have children with you. And that is sacred. And that actually rises above anything that. separates and divides two people in their romantic life. And I wish more people would do that. And it can be tough. I mean, there's a reason you split, but there's also a reason that you were together in the first place. And that has to be the driving factor. Has your ex grappled with how hot your fiancé is?

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I think he's more impressed with my fiance's ability to rewire an entire house by himself. He's full of surprises. Yeah, like he put in a new high voltage charger for our hybrid vehicle by himself. Could not. It's like he had to know like what wires and. box and switch and everything to get and how to plug that into the circle panel and all of these things without burning the house down or electrocuting himself. And he did that in an afternoon. Like to me, that's wildly impressive. No, I would be overcharged so much for whatever that is, right? I would call someone. They would, I would pay through the nose for that and he did it. And he, every once in while, he'll do like, he took out the water heater and put in a tankless heater. on a weekend. And he was like, how would you have done this if I wasn't here? And I'm like, easy. Money? That like, Angie's list, task rabbit. Like, I would have called. I would have made sure I went to the highest bidder because I would assume people who are charging less are less capable. By the way, this is 100% my fault. But. I love how I began by asking you a question about your daughter's birthday, who's like the quiet, like chill one. Now we've moved completely away. I was like, what does she like for her birthday? You mentioned one word and I chase it like a squirrel in the other direction. She listens to this podcast. She's like, yeah, that sounds right. Her favorite foods with her loved ones. Yes. And so, and I'm making her, yes, I'm making her a chocolate cake with a beautiful, thick chocolate ganache. Is it gluten-free for you? Well, she's also gluten-free, so yes. Whoa. Yeah. Yep, and we're also having vanilla cupcakes. Is it good, the gluten-free cake? Oh, yeah. It is so moist. So I made chocolate chip cookies last night because I wanted her to come home from school today and have fresh-baked chocolate chip cookies. Are there any left? I'm asking for a friend who will be in your building later. Yes, there are. And Pele, the older one, took a cookie today and she was like, these are the best cookies you've ever made. She's like, These actually taste like they have gluten. These are gluten-free cookies. Oh, well, just for the purposes of science, I will have to try one. I don't want one, obviously, but I think I must. They've got extra dark, tiny chocolate chips and big white chocolate chips. And brown sugar and browned butter. Like they, I've really worked on this recipe over the years. So what's the gluten thing that, like the replacement? It's brown rice flour and then a little bit of baking soda, a little bit of salt. It's a very simple recipe. And then it's a half a cup of brown sugar, a quarter cup of cane sugar. And then vanilla, one egg. And, you know, you basically just blend everything, fold in the chocolate chips. You have to brown the butter. So that means you melt butter and you have to let it in on a lower heat, let it get nutty and brown, completely cool it. And then you have to make the cookie dough and you have to refrigerate it. You have to refrigerate it for at least an hour in order for everything to hold together. Okay, the binding. Everything mingles. And then you bake them for nine minutes at 350 and they are fantastic. I cannot invite myself to have one of these cookies. So I need you to invite me out loud.

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Guy, in order to get your head in the right space for wedding toasting, will you please enjoy a homemade white and dark chocolate chip cookie? Once again, I accept. See, this is amazing what's happening here on the, and by the way, what's nice about a, I would imagine, we'll see, to be determined, a gluten-free cookie that you have baked yourself is you can indeed confirm that it is in fact gluten-free, unlike certain pizzas. Oh, my gosh. Poison pizza. Oh, that was a bad night. I felt really bad. So we were on a trip together a couple of last year. I just have to tell you. Marcus Limonis, I was, he, we were talking about packing. And we were talking about, you know, the most efficient ways to pack. And I'm a big believer in a roller bag and not checking luggage typically. Yes. And he asked about my friend trips. And I told him that you and I had been on several trips. That's right. And we have another one coming up. And he said, well, maybe you and I will go on a trip. And I said, I don't think that's going to happen, Marcus. I don't see that as being appropriate. He goes, well, why do you go on trips with Guy? And I said, because I married him. That's right. And for the audience that might be confused on that one, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. officiated my wedding. I did. That's a true story. And then we were on this birthday combined trip thing last year. And you were, you had a pizza problem. Yeah. Because it was out of your control. And you did. You checked like seven times to make sure that they wrote down gluten-free it. And then- You were raving about how good the pizza was. And the pizza was so good. Suspiciously good. The server came back and I was like, hey, Sparkle, this is good. This is like, we're veering into too good. That was the waitress's actual name. This is too good. Are you sure this is gluten free? She goes, not only did I write it down, I double checked when I put it in the computer, and I walked the ticket over to the bar to tell them specifically it's gluten free. I was like, Great, because this is the best gluten-free pizza I have ever had. I said to the point where I may fly back to this beautiful, warm, tropical destination to have this again. It's so good. And then. In the middle of the night with my celiac, just raging, horrific, food poisoning-like abdominal pain symptoms and cramping. And it was so bad. So the next day I was like, yo, Sparkle, it's like, same thing. I put it in, double-checked, walked it to the bar. And you said there's only one way to find out. Order it again. And if the same pizza shows up, then it's gluten-free. Ordered it again, and it was cardboard. Yes. It was a thin piece of actual gluten-free cardboard. Yes. It was far from the most delicious thing I have ever put in my mouth. But that will not be the case with the chocolate chip cookies that I may or may not consume later on. Yes. I may or may not.

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have a nightcap cocktail, as a matter of fact. Excellent. To toast your daughter on her birthday. Beautifully done. And to prepare mentally for a Herculane task that is coming my way this summer, which is to hopefully make the assembled guests laugh and cry. Exactly. On your behalf. Oh, I'm already starting to, I'm like, I almost wish I could just send this to commercial break and start writing the toast now. But I need to be in a certain mind space, headspace to write that toast. I wish you were the kind of person where you were such a diva that your process takes over. And then you're like, clear the schedule. I'm not doing the rest of the show. I have to write this right now. I will have no eye contact during my toast, especially from the bride. It's in my rider. And it's going to be a small wedding, right? Yeah. Like a couple dozen? Yes. I'm honored. I told you I booked, right? Yes. I booked the flight. I booked the hotel. Oh, yeah. It's a whole thing. Yes. Oh, and it's happened. They don't know what's coming. And it's a small hotel. And a lady from the hotel was like, half of the hotel is your guests. It's great. Perfect. The other half, they're going to be so jealous. Yeah, exactly. They're going to be like, oh, it's a big group. That's annoying. And then they will see us. Yeah. And they will be like, that is a very cool group. And then your job will be like, I'm the only reason. I'm the only reason why. And that's a callback to end the segment with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. Well, the whole, the whole plan we had. We had a plan. We had a plan. It was gone down. The written down plan was completely thrown out. But it's for the best. Happy birthday to your daughter. Thank you. From one fellow Pisces to another, she wishes you. There we go. I am that. I am Pisces. I don't quite know what that means, but I am that. It is so good to see you. I mean, obviously Pisces are awesome. Are we? Yes. I'll own it. I'm going with it. I've got a break. to pay the bills and such. We'll talk soon. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. saves the world. Love you. We'll be right back. Same issues, but with a fresh perspective. Guy Benson. Hi, Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Are you looking for a beach read this summer? May I suggest your big wireless bill? It's got suspense, mystery, a slightly flat, emotional arc, and a shocking twist where you realize you've been overpaying the entire time. Fortunately, though, Mint's story is better. Every plan, $15 dollars a month a month, even unlimited. That's it. Happy ending, zero tears. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Up front payment of $45 for three months, $90 for $1 for $12 per month equivalent to taxes and fees extra. Initial term only greater than 50 gigabytes, may slow when network is busy. See Terms. Back here on Guy Benson, Taylor Riggs from Fox Business coming up in the next hour, talking economy, some new data coming out in the last couple of days, price of oil, straight of her moves, the economic impact of the war, all of that upcoming. Now, I'm just looking back to the last segment here on the rundown, Grant Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. And...

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Producer Christine had six bullet points of topics for us, and I think we hit zero of the six, Christine, as a producer, a senior producer, as you listen to the segment that just happened, where I just completely, like, threw this in the garbage. Might as well, throwing it away. Does that annoy you as a producer, or was the content fun enough that it didn't bother you? Both. Oh, okay. The only reason is because we actually, a little behind the scenes, we spent a lot of time on topics for guests. That is true. This isn't just something where, you know, I say, hey, you got this person, then go. You know, we actually as producers and hosts. Yeah, unlike other shows, we actually prepare things here. Right. So I was, you know, nervous. I was like, oh, do I have enough topics to give to guys? Like, when are you going to get to this California story? Right, right. Never. But. Well, first of all, now we could save these topics. That's true. You could just recycle them for next week. And it was so good. It was fun. She's such a dear friend. And another big friend later in the show, Kat Tim, is going to be awesome. And then a very important guest cameo appearance in the home stretch at the end of the show. But first, hour two, up next, don't go anywhere. It's Guy Benson on a Friday.

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Yeah, you know, and this actually might be a big positive for the market because what this means is that maybe if they drop this lawsuit, Jerome Powell is more likely to just... retire into the sunset, right? And then that allows for the confirmation of Mr. Kevin Warsh. There were a few members on the Senate who have to confirm Worse, who said they needed to see this lawsuit go away before they felt comfortable confirming a new chair. So this actually may help speed up the process in doing that. And maybe at least this actually gives the administration some cover. potentially to just bow out and walk away. So look, the market's dealing with a lot of other news right now with inflation and jobs and Iran, but this actually may be sort of a nice cover for them to walk and maybe this is a positive care for the market. Let's talk about inflation and jobs, and maybe we'll get to Iran as well. So we've gotten some mixed economic data in the last couple of days, obviously recently a very weak jobs report with a net negative jobs. So jobs lost last month. We also got a downward revision on fourth quarter GDP, partially attributed to the government shutdown that the Democrats did last year. But again, that's not a revision that you want to see. But then we also got pretty good inflation news yesterday. So if you can just sort of walk us through the picture that these data points are painting in your mind. Yes. Okay. So. The GDP did not look good. You know, I was, you know, unfortunately, I think so excited that 2026 was going to be a banner year. But when you got the fourth quarter early numbers of 7 tenths of 1%, when that was cut in half when the estimates we thought would be 1.4, that doesn't look good. And I think a lot of people were hoping that all of the tailwinds in the first and second quarter of 2026 from the big beautiful bill. How much of that is now going to be wiped out from higher oil prices at the time given the Iran war? So. My concern here from the market and from the economy is we could come out neutral, right? We're all the big benefits of 3, 4, 5% GDP might actually still just be sort of a lackluster 2%, which is what I've read now for 2026, given some of the other geopolitical issues that are going on. Now, the good news that PCE, the numbers that you talked about came in in line with expectations.

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But they're still up about 3.1% year every year. And the Fed's target is 2%. So that doesn't give room for the Fed to cover borrowing an economic recession if you get one from high oil prices if they are sustained. The job opening numbers looked good. There are more job openings than we thought more than expected and more from last month. That means employers are out there. They're trying to hire. They have open positions that they are trying to fill. But again, just how much of this is going to be down to down by some of the negative sentiment. It was interesting that we got the University of Michigan sentiment surveys. Half the survey was done prior to February 28th when we launched into Iran. And the other half of the survey was done in the nine days after. after February 28th, and there was a, like, stark difference coming into it. The first half were really excited about this year. Optimism was improving, and then all of that turned around after February 28th, where then they immediately started, consumers started surveyed, were feeling concerns about higher gas prices, higher oil prices, and then, of course, some supply chain shocks and a lot of uncertainty around geopolitical events. Sort of the net net is the numbers still look good, but again, it's all data and how much of that now changes as we think about what the March data looks like. On Iran, so I am very much in favor of this military operation. I think it's the right thing to do at a propitious and advantageous time, given the weakness of the regime. I think the alliance that we pulled together is extraordinary. The military success is extraordinary. You look at this from a business perspective. So you're extra sensitive and your audiences to oil prices and that sort of thing, which of course immediately impact American consumers all across the country. So it's not a small consideration. I think in the scheme of things, this needed to be done and is being done and hopefully will be wrapped up relatively soon in short order without leaving any real problems out there festering. I just wonder, is there? Maybe a middle ground. When you talk to people plugged in on the oil prices side of things, you know, that key straight, obviously the administration knew that that was going to be one of the pinch points and power levers that the regime might try to use in order to, you know, exact some pain on the U.S. and the world economy for this conflict. The president's talked about. U.S. naval vessels, starting to maybe escort oil tankers. What are some mitigating factors that could at least medium term, short to medium term, help with this issue without undermining the mission? Yeah. So, unfortunately, I don't think there's anything that we can do today for the next couple weeks until... And I agree with the Pentagon on this, that they have said that, and the Defense, the Department of War Secretary, where they said all of our assets need to be under the military operation, and so we can't have any military escorts for tankers going through the strain. I think the market's like, okay, I can deal with that for a couple weeks. But if I'm getting now to the end of March, and I still have...

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military escort or I still, I'm not sure if there are mines being laid or not by Iran. I think that's when the market's like, okay, are we going to $110, $120 barrel per oil? I'm okay at 100 if I think that this thing can be resolved in a few weeks. The administration and, you know, a lot of the G7 leaders have talked about the release of oil reserves from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. That has not moved the oil market lower because we do not have a supply problem. We are actually over well supplied with oil. The problem is the transportation of that oil because we don't use all the oil that we produce here. It's complicated. We import and we export. So we are a net exporter. So we still need the straight of Hormuz to be opened up for the transportation of that. That's when you see headlines like we're going to open up and release the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and put new oil out into the market, it hasn't moved things because we're well supplied. We just need to get it shipped there and not. You know, and the other issue with oil is it's not just oil with the straight of Hormuz. We're coming up on spring planting season. Fertilizer moves through that straight. Goods move through that straight. Other commodities move through that straight. So it's not just oil. I'm thinking about farmers in the Midwest who are paying more than ever for fertilizer, and how do they start to do a spring planting season with that. I agree with you. I think short-term versus long, you know, the markets are looking short-term. I'm thinking about the next couple weeks. Long-term, is this a good decision? You and I can have that debate. I think that overall, we can argue about if this was the right thing to do. I think we will be safer. I think this is the right thing to do strategically, geopolitically, but that does not mean that people won't still feel some pain. short term from an economic perspective. And I'll be quick on this. The administration has said that Iran has put in through this risk premium to oil. Oil is higher. because Iran is trying to be a nuclear power. Oh, 100%. And by the way, and I'm up on a break, so I've got to run, Taylor. But I think that point is very well taken. And it's part of sort of the decision-making metrics that the administration had to consider before launching what they've done. Taylor Riggs, FBN, always appreciate it. We'll talk again very soon. Back after this. You're listening to a new generation of talk, Guy Benson.

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I'm Guy Benson. We are back. Factor follow up on a pretty dark subject that we've covered on and off for years, including just recently on the show. Canada's suicide spiral with euthanasia, with the medical assistance in dying maid program, which has just expanded and expanded and expanded, not just in terms of the number of people killing themselves with the blessing and assistance of the state, but also the scope and the people who qualify for maid. Right? They start by saying it's only for people with very serious, incurable terminal illnesses who are in great pain. Let them make a decision to die with dignity. That is how they sell it. And that I think appeals to a lot of people, their sense of freedom, their sense of fairness and individual autonomy. But then the slope actually is very, very slippery. You see it in Europe where this type of thing has been adopted in some countries where they then expand it to include minors. Children can be euthanized in some of these places. There's an active public debate about whether to expand this to minors in Canada as well. Then you have a bunch of people who are not terminally ill, who in many cases just have mental or emotional illnesses in addition to some sort of other condition, and they're eligible. to kill themselves under this program. There have been multiple scandals, we've covered them here, where individuals have come in seeking medical help, medical attention, treatment, and they've been denied the treatment, but instead offered death. Oh, well, we actually can't afford that surgery. We can't afford that medication, but have you considered killing yourself? including military veterans in that country, and you get these little spikes of outrage and scandals when it happens, and then it happens again and again and again. There was one story that we shared with you a couple months ago from the CBC about a woman who had a rare disease, but it could be treated. She was in pain, and she was wanting treatment. But in her province, Saskatchewan, there was no surgeon available to perform the operation that she needed because there are also long wait lists under the Canadian healthcare system and massive doctor shortages. This is what happens when the government runs health care. In government run health care, you get government rationing. And here was a woman in her whole province. There was not a single doctor who could do this type of operation. So she was referred out of province, but she couldn't obtain a referral without being first seen by an endocrinologist. But none of those were accepting new patients because of all this backlog and the way that the government-run health care system works. They call it Medicare for all in the United States. They've got it in Canada, and this is what happens. Months-long waitless for basic care and often just, sorry, no one's available at all. So she didn't have the doctor that she needed to get the surgery that she needed in her province. So she needed to be referred elsewhere. But in order to do that, she had to see a certain kind of specialist and none of them were taking new appointments or new patients at all. So this woman said the pain became so unbearable that she applied and was approved for maid in January.

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It's like, hey, I want this medical treatment. There are so many logistical hoops that they're trying to get me to jump through. They are denying me this care. And so, you know what? I give up. Kill me. And the government was like, sold. Now, eventually, people got involved. Glenn Beck picked up the story. People started fundraising for her. And she decided to withdraw. the made deadline, but not because of the Canadian government, not because of the situation, but because there were, frankly, a lot of Americans trying to save her life. But that's the type of horrible story that we are seeing playing out across Canada on a regular basis. There's an update to this that I wanted to bring to your attention. This is new. The Daily Mail reporting, quote, Canada performed thousands of, listen to this, same day assisted suicides. As it was also revealed that one elderly woman was killed despite withdrawing her request the day before. More than 200 people in Ontario alone chose to die within 24 hours of their approval in the year 2023. So there's not even really a lag time in thousands of these cases. People come in and say, golly gee, I'm in bad shape. I'm depressed. I have diabetes. That was a fact pattern for a young 26-year-old man who was killed over the loud objections of his family. He suffered from depression and diabetes. And they decided, okay, death sentence for him. Death with dignity. The family's horrified. But in a lot of these cases, thousands of them, it's now routine. You come in, you request your suicide, and you get that suicide that day. They kill you that day. There's not a second or third opinion. There's not a waiting period. Are you sure really want this? Why don't you talk to your family? Why don't we alert your friends and loved ones? Nope. You come in. You're like, hi, I'd like maid. They're like, great, sign here. And off you go to the death chamber. Same day, euthanasia. from a country whose health care system asks people who want to live, in many cases, to wait month after month, after month, often in agony, to get any actual health care. But it's free. We hear from our friends on the left in this country. We need Medicare for all. Free health care. It's inhumane what we have in this country. Well, Canada has the humane system that they want. And there are doctor shortages, massive government rationing of care. And if you don't want to wait for the care, then they offer you suicide. And they do that lickety split. Because I'm sorry, when the government controls health care, it is all an accounting decision to them. We see this in the UK as well. When the dollars and cents don't add up, it is much cheaper to offer people death than to offer them expensive health care. So you have government bureaucrats in charge of your health care looking at you as a problem, a money problem. And your fiscal footprint and your carbon footprint, for that matter, would be a lot easier for the state if you were dead. So that's what a lot of people get, death, increasingly on the very same day that they requested. Absolutely.

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sick. And I bring this up not just because, in my mind, it is a humanitarian and health care tragedy playing out to our north. Our Canadian friends going through this under the horrible government that they've decided to elect again. But because this is a risk in the United States as well, there are a lot of people fundamentally committed to taking Canada's health care system, copy pacing it, and applying it, imposing it here. They want to get rid of your health care. They want to get rid of your plans and doctors, and they want the government to take over the whole thing. And the results, predictably, would be the same as we see in Canada. And by the way, last point, Governor Kathy Hochul, here in New York, just signed this type of law into effect in New York. Same acronym, made. Coming now to a state near you. It can happen here. And we'll be right back. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox Newswinshop.com with code FNRadio 20. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 order to order. Please drink responsibly.

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Benzins Show, sponsored by Previgin. Previgin, made for your brain. Halfway through Guy Benson on this Friday edition, thank you for being here, Guy Benson.com. Podcast always free. With us now is Gordon Chang, author of the book Plan Red, China's Project to Destroy America. He also wrote The Coming Collapse of China. You can follow him on social, Twitter, X, at Gordon G. Chang. Gordon, welcome back. Thanks so much, Guy. Let's talk about President Trump's journey to China upcoming. What do you think the goal is here? What do you think about the plan overall? First of all, we don't know if that trip will actually take place because the Chinese have not confirmed the date. And you would think that they would have done that by now. Now, they have a lot of reason to want to talk to President Trump, but they don't want a triumphant American leader. parading around the Chinese capital. So we'll see if it occurs. From our perspective, we've got so many issues on the table. You talk about trade, talk about fentanyl, all of them. And it's just a comprehensive list. The Chinese, of course, are not going to want to talk about a lot of things because they know what they're doing and they don't want any change. From China's perspective, they will want access to America's market. That's probably the most important thing, because Xi Jinping right now has an economy that is entirely dependent on export success. Do you think that maybe there's a deal to be made that would be advantageous to the United States? Like if Trump went in, let's say the meeting happens, with a list of demands, is there a way that we could actually get the Chinese to accede to some of those demands meaningfully, not just lip service, in exchange for something that China wants in a way that, at least in your mind, would be acceptable? number of ways for President Trump to do that. He would have to threaten certain actions against China, which he has not been willing to do. But there are ways that we can actually get a better deal out of China. The problem here, Guy, is a fundamental one, and that is we Americans have thought that if we can talk to China, we can reason with Chinese leaders, and we can come to some accommodation. Unfortunately, over the course of decades, that has proven not to be true. And so I'm concerned that we're on another course for another deal with China that won't work. Trump has one arrangement with the Chinese. That was his phase one trade deal of January 2020. It was a very simple thing for China to comply, and it failed to do so. And one of the consequences of its failure to do so was that President Trump did not get reelected that year. The Chinese, I think, certainly did not want to see him back in the Oval Office. And so I hope President Trump realizes that when he tries to make another deal with the Chinese.

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Do you think he should go? Do you think it's worth it? I don't think that he should go for a number of reasons. First of all, the Chinese will view President Trump or any foreign leader going to China as really a submission. They think that when leaders go to their capital, that those leaders consider themselves to be in a subordinate position. Although she came here, right? So there's at least some reciprocity. At least that would be an argument. Yes. Xi Jinping came in 2023. He saw President Biden in Woodside, California. Also, Xi Jinping went to Mar-a-Lago in April of 2017. But this is a new administration, and I think it wipes the slate clean. And so I would like to see Xi Jinping come to the U.S. before President Trump goes there. I'm a little bit less concerned because Trump has been very successful in a number of things that China doesn't like. And so, you know, that concern is a little bit less. But I've got one overarching concern, and that is China is an enemy combatant in Iran. And I don't think whatever, even if we had all the leverage and the Chinese didn't, I just don't think that we should be sending our leader to the capital of our enemy. Fair. We know that the regime has been warning the United States, warning the Trump administration about potential arms sales to Taiwan, about Jimmy Lai. I know there was a rumor that maybe Xi Jinping would release. Jimmy Lai is some sort of a gesture of goodwill leading up to this. I don't know if that's true or not. Tell us about some of this rhetorical saber-rattling. With regard to Jimmy Lai, I think that China believes it's in its interest to release him. The reason is Jimmy is already a martyr. He would be much more of a martyr if he died in prison. He's 78 years old and in very poor health. So there's a real risk of him perishing in China's custody. So I do believe that they will release him because they'll get some goodwill out of it. And it's important for us to obtain that release. And President Trump deserves a lot of credit for raising this issue because we need to tell the Chinese people that we stand behind them. And getting Jimmy's release is one way of doing that. So that's really important. You know, when it comes to other issues, there's just as I mentioned across the board, we'll be talking, I'm sure, about Iran, talking about Panama. probably talking about Venezuela, and some of the other successes President Trump has. And they'll also be discussing trade, because we know that the Treasury Secretary, starting on Sunday, will be meeting a Chinese vice premier, Hu Lifong, in where it is, someplace in Europe. So really what we've got is a trade as being an important component of it. But I think that there are other more important issues, the ones that I just mentioned before. On the home front, the chairman has now demanded what he's calling ethnic unity, and there's new threatened punishment for people who are...

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seen as not being unified across China. We've seen, of course, crackdowns against the Uyghurs in Western China and the Tibetans as well as has gone back many, many years. And it seems like they're doubling down on this internally. Yes. This law that was passed at the two sessions, which was one of the two sessions is the National People's Congress Annual Meeting, this codifies China's minority policies, which are horrific. China has engaged in genocide against the Uyghurs, and one can argue that this policy toward the Tibetans also is genocide, as defined in the 1948 genocide convention. China has clearly decided that it wants to have absolute unity and no minorities in China. And so it's trying to wipe out minority consciousness. And that's the motivation behind this. The United States needs to talk about this. At the end of the first Trump administration, Secretary of State Pompeo actually formally declared China's policy against the Uyghurs to be genocide. Anthony Blinken, a few weeks later. I said that was also the decision of the Biden administration. So it's bipartisan. And I think that we need to have more discussion about it. And we need to have American actions because we do have an obligation under the 48th Convention to punish acts of genocide. And China has clearly been engaged in genocide recently. Let's talk about Iran and maybe also Venezuela, the U.S. military engaged both places recently, very successful operations, really in both theaters. And China has an interest in both countries. China allied with the Maduro regime, allied, of course, with the Iranian regime. And they're watching us throw our weight around to great effect, really impressive military operations of very different varieties. First in Venezuela, actually really kind of sandwiched in there because we had last summer's operations. Midnight Hammer, and now Epic Fury underway at the moment. In between was the extradition against his will of the dictator of Venezuela. What do you think the Politburo in Beijing is thinking as they see the U.S. military engaging in these activities and being quite successful? This is one of the most important things that Trump administration has done, is to change the thinking about the United States in Beijing. If you look sort of at Xi Jinping's attitudes towards through the end of last year. He was thinking that the United States was in terminal decline and that China would dominate the century. When you look at January 3, I think that it changed the way Chinese officials viewed the United States because that was an extraordinarily successful military operation. What's going on right now in Iran confirms that view, I believe, in the Chinese capital. Xi Jinping still believes that he's the world's only ruler, but I think he's being isolated on that because others are starting to see that the United States can exert power is extraordinarily successful, and that completely undercuts Xi Jinping's narrative that the United States is done.

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On that exact same point, there are reports that there were Chinese military technologies and weaponry that were defeated, both in Venezuela and in Iran. And I don't know the extent to which that is true, but there's been reporting that that is the case where the Chinese had sold or given technology to these allies in Caracas in Tehran. And when the U.S. military came knocking, the Chinese technology failed. How true is that? How much of a loss of face is that for the Chinese? And what does that say about the vaunted Chinese military in general if their performance or at least their technology and their weapons performance in really important moments for their allies was defeated roundly by the U.S. military? Chinese radars and their integrated command systems somehow did not see more than 150 American aircraft either in or near Venezuela airspace. With regard to Iran, it had advanced Chinese radars. And the other thing is that it also had supersonic Chinese anti-ship cruise missiles from all that we can tell. Those were the ones that were fired at the Abraham Lincoln, our aircraft carrier, about a week ago, and they missed by wide margins. What this says is that China's export variants of its technology, of its weapons don't work, especially against advanced militaries. And I think that the reputation for China's military in general has taken a hit. The Chinese military in general is a lot less fearsome in a reality than it does in its image. You know, we have that image of the soldiers marching through Tiananmen Square in last September. That's what most people think about a very capable military. But Xi Jinping, through his purges, has decimated the leadership of the military. And it's in really no position right now to, for instance, invade the main island of Taiwan. It just doesn't have the leadership. Just to give you an example, the Communist Party Central Military Commission, which controls the military, should have seven members. It only now has two, Xi Jinping himself, not a military officer. And the other person is a general, but he's only a political commissar. There are no operational officers on the Communist Party's military. And that's because of the purges? That's because of Xi Jinping's purges. So, for instance, on January 24th, the Ministry of National Defense announced the removal of two generals from the Central Military Commission. One of them was General Zhang Yao Shao, who was the number one uniformed officer in the Chinese military. He's one of the few officers who had wartime experience. That goes back to 1979 when China invaded Vietnam. And General Zhang was the one telling Xi Jinping that the Chinese military was not capable of invading Taiwan. The risk here is that Xi Jinping is getting rid of everybody who's telling him the truth. He's going to find some compliant flag officer. He's going to give him a promotion. And they're going to go out and try something which is going to end up in a debacle for China.

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Well, we hope that is not the case, obviously, and a lot of high-stakes discussions coming potentially very soon between our president and their leadership. Gordon Chang following it all very closely. Author of Plan Red, China's Project to Destroy America. Follow him at Gordon G. Chang on Twitter or X. Gordon, appreciate it. Thank you very much. Well, thank you so much, Guy. And stay safe. More of Guy Benson up next. Miss a minute. Miss a lot. Guy Benson. Here on Guy Benson, we are back. Thank you for listening. We mentioned yesterday this embarrassing line about steaks and lobster for Pete Hegseth, but not the troops, whatever these Democrats and their media allies were trying to spin. The idea that the Pentagon was spending all this money for Pete Hegseth to eat well. To the tune of millions and millions of dollars, food that was clearly going to the men and women in uniform deployed abroad. And I guess they just like didn't bother to check that out or to care or to know that that has been a great tradition. Moral boosting surf and turf meals for decades under administrations from both political parties. It's just like a total humiliation that people went with that. Maybe you'd expect that from the interns who know nothing at TMZ. But the Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer also joined that chorus. Just utterly embarrassing. We talked about it yesterday. And I also made the point that it's interesting to see the party of Learing Center fraud, defending or enabling fraud at virtually every turn. And when there's any attempt to. rooted out or to tighten up restrictions and verification and eligibility. They call those cuts. No mean-spirited right-wing cuts to vital programs. This is how they constantly end up allying themselves with fraudsters and criminals because their ultimate goal is to expand the government as much as possible, inexorably forever no matter what. So this is how they argue. But they found one line item that they finally want to cut. And it's nice meals for our troops in the Middle East. How about that as a priority? Always more spending except abolish ice so we can't deport criminal aliens. And let's get rid of the steak and lobsters for the men and women stationed in danger around the world. Defending our freedom away from their families. That is what Chuck Schumer's position apparently has become. An absolutely ridiculous opposition party. Totally unsurious, unworthy of any power. That is what they spend their time on. This is what they're actually willing to cut. What they're not willing to do is anything that they call cuts to programs that are being abused by grifters and criminals and have been four years. There's a Wall Street Journal expose out in the last couple days talking about one form of fraud, this explosion of autism care. a lot of which is actually not going to kids with autism. And then you look at how that's being abused. Media outlets are, in some cases, detailing that abuse. And if you try to do something about it, the Democrats will say, why do Republicans hate kids with autism? Right. That's the way that this quote-unquote debate and discourse goes.

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Right, you got to get rid of the steak and lobster for the men and women, but the abuse of taxpayer money supposedly for kids with autism, just keep that gravy train rolling. Just like we saw in Minneapolis with the Somali community with like, hey, hands off those investigations explicitly for partisan and racial reasons. Then CBS News, and I'll give them credit for this, CBS News out in California, dipping their toe into another vast reservoir of fraud. Cut 15. The government thinks this woman is dying in hospice care, but she just humiliated me, schooled me on the pickleball court. She's... Definitely not dying. She is a victim, though, of hospice fraud. So hospice fraud costs taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars every year. And California is ground zero. So basically, people steal Medicare numbers. They enroll them in hospices and then bill for tens, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars. A lot of these companies are just fronts. So over 700 of the roughly 1,800 hospices in L.A. County trigger multiple red flags for possible fraud. So we went door to door, and what we found was empty office spaces, piled up mail, and not a single health care worker in sight. There's even a stretch in L.A. with 500 registered hospice companies within just three miles of each other. In fact, there's even a single building with 89 registered hospice companies. We wanted to get some answers. And a lot of the answers that they got were not good. Hundreds of millions of dollars of known fraud in this particular little corner of the universe, hospice fraud. Hundreds of millions of dollars. California, big blue California, ground zero for said fraud. And here's a reporter going door to door. And as he said, we found empty office spaces piled up mail, no one answering phones, doors closed in their faces if there's anyone at these places at all. This sounds familiar, doesn't it? It sounds like what we saw in Minnesota with the daycare fraud, which sounds similar to the autism fraud, which sounds similar here to the hospice fraud. And on and on it goes, I think that we are barely aware of the extent and the scope of this problem. You know, I would focus on that rather than deciding that the troops aren't deserving of nice meals every so often. But that's just me. Maybe ask Chuck Schumer about that. His priorities seem to be exactly the opposite. Final hour of Guy Benson straight ahead. Cat Timph is here. Fridays with Kat. Next.

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Raise your glass to Guy Benson Happy Hour. Brought to you by the Finnish Long Drink. Finland's most popular alcoholic beverage is taking America by storm. Visit thelongdrink.com. And now, here's Guy Benson. Happy hour time on Guy Benson on this Friday. Happy Friday. So glad you're all here with us. Guy Benson.com, the website, podcast free every day on demand, no charge at all. Bonus Guy Benson on the weekends. Catch me tonight on special report on the panel, latter part of the hour, 6 p.m. Eastern, FNC. And then the full hour, 10 p.m. Eastern, gutfeld tonight, looking forward to that. Also co-hosting the big weekend show tomorrow and Sunday, 5 to 8 p.m. Eastern. Also on Fox News Channel, so a lot of television coming up. This radio hour is sponsored by the Finnish long drink. It's delicious. I'm a huge fan. Thelongdrink.com for more information, including where it's sold near you. 21 plus only, please always drink responsibly. That's the longdrink.com. But with us now here in studio at our New York headquarters is Cat Timp. It's Fridays with Cat. We are underway. She's a Fox News contributor. Co-host of Godfeld will be on together tonight. Author of The Best Seller, I Used to Like You Until How Binary Thinking Divides Us. Hello, Kat. Hi. How are you? Great. Great. I'm looking forward to this evening. Yes. It's been a minute since we've both been on the Godfelled program together. Yes. And a similarly long period of time since you've been on this show because you had your leave. I had my second half of maternity leave. Yes. So remind us of the timing on this. So right. So I had. my first half, it's baby bonding and childbirth recovery. There's two, it's split into two parts. I took my childbirth recovery in February and then it switched over to short term disability because of my cancer. So then I had this extra six weeks that I never took, which a lot of times dudes can split their leave up, but women can't do that because your body is recovering from the whole childbirth thing. So I had to take it before you turn one. So I took it. And it was really kind of cool to have this time off with a baby that's a little older that can do more stuff. And, you know, we took a vacation together. Yeah. Which I, my kids started walking early. And I do think it's entirely because he saw your son walking. Yes. And he was like, this, this guy's. kind of small like me. He's not crawling around. He's like, that's not fair. He's doing that. He can do it. Because your kid was starting to take legit steps on that trip. Yes. He'd taken maybe one step or two steps before, but then at the villa, he started taking like five steps at a time. And I truly think it's because he was watching somebody kind of close to his height walking around. Whenever we talk about babies with our son, he often just says,

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Your son's name. Like in his mind, the baby. Like, the official baby is your kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was really so cute watching them together, especially watching your son Beech to want to be like a big boy. Yeah. He would be about to have a temper tantrum. And then he would see the baby. And he was like, oh, no, I'm not. I can't do this in front of him. I can't do this in front of him. He would stop. He would stop. And he'd be like, baby crying. And he'd be like, baby. It's like, certainly you're not a baby. Right. The baby's crying. Certainly you're not a baby. But it was really, really cute. And he would push your son around a stroller at one point. It was so cute. It was really, really cute. It was very, very cute. We also had with us on that trip, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and her fiance. Yes. And then Dr. Drew and his wife. Yes. And not to make this overly gendered, but I would simply say, Drew's wife and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. were like really involved with the babies. Oh yeah, absolutely. Give us babies. Yeah, and I was like, that's fine. Yes, please. By all means, please. Yeah, by all me, go ahead. Can I feed him? I'm like, please. Yes. Like, oh, yeah, that's great. I'll go sit by the pool. You can absolutely feed him. Are you sure? I'm like, I'm very sure. Absolutely. So you and most of the audience is very. well aware of your story. You were diagnosed with breast cancer on the day you gave birth to your son. Same 24 hours. Which is crazy. Correct. Then you had to go from like, okay, I'm recovering from childbirth to I need to have my breasts removed. Yep. And then recover from that. Yep. Reconstructed. Yep. While also parenting for the first time. Yep. So that's been. bumpy, right? But I'd imagine very rewarding as well. Were certain parts of it a lot, as it turned out, easier than you had feared and were other things harder in a way that you never expected? Yes, because as I was actively going through it, and I know you came over, there's a lot of people who came over and kind of saw I was going through it. And I was kind of, I don't want to say I was fine, so definitely. breaking down regularly but i was also running off of adrenaline so it was in many ways like how long can you run off adrenaline before you really it was about six months i would say that is it was it was insane i mean i was really uh you know i was making jokes the whole time that's how i am but i was really like okay i have cancer i have to get the cancer on my body i have this newborn i wasn't really there was no time to really think about anything And especially because we didn't have help other than my dad. I didn't have a night nurse or anything like that. We never made those plans. I thought I was going to be able to pick up the baby myself, right? I was planning to not be a patient. Right. I was planning to breastfeed. So I was like, okay, I'm going to be breastfeeding. I'm going to be, it's going to be me and him. And I want to do this. I was excited to do this. Obviously, these completely changed. So I had to be so focused on that. And I was in survival mode. And I, you know. I had all the support, you know, and that was so great. And then I would say, um, actually more towards the end of last year, beginning of this year where I don't, it's like, okay, all my leave is done. I'm back at work. I'm all back on tour. And then I've had a few moments lately where I'm like, yo, like that was real, like that was messed up. Yeah, the whole thing. You know, like that was really messed up. And, uh, you know, it's, it's been.

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harder now than I thought it would be a year later. And I'm really just leaning into trying to create from it. You know, whether that's, I'm going, I'm giving a speech. Coming up, I think it's next week. I am doing standup where I talk about this a lot in my standup. I am talking to other young women who have, unfortunately. gone through this that I've been connected with and I kind of am hoping to do that in a larger and larger scale. And that's what I'm kind of leaning into. But I think that there really is this thing where at the beginning, it's like your mind does, my mind didn't have time to catch up with how. insane and serious what was happening. It was survival mode. Even as it was happening and I was having body parts removed, it was kind of just like my mind hadn't caught up with it. Yeah, because it happened so fast. It was within the same month that I gave birth and had my mastectomy. So now it's kind of like, whoa. And it's been hard, but I'm trying my best to kind of lean into creating something from it. I know that your first day back from leave. And I hope I'm not like saying something I'm not supposed to say. Like you had a really tough day. Yeah, I really like just like burst in the tears. Was that just because you realized you were back under the tyranny of Greg? Yeah, I took one look at him and I started sobbing. No, I think it was because the whole time I was like, well, I'm looking forward to. I'm going to have this time off after my surgeries are done. And I'm going to have this six weeks to enjoy with my baby, with my husband, my dad's going to be around. You know, I'm going to have this time. I'm going to take a trip, my friends and my baby. I'm going to do all this stuff. And I kind of was looking forward to that. And then that was done. And I think it's this expectation of like. Everything's back to normal now. And I'm so glad you're, I'm just like, get a trauma dump on the radio. But I'm like, I'm like, so glad you're okay. And I was like, I don't really feel like totally, like I don't feel okay. Like I'm still, you know, going through this, you know, when you have cancer, right, you really aren't the same after that because not only did I lose parts of my body, but it removes your sense of safety. It's an illusion of safety. None of us are safe. None of us. I mean, I wasn't. You know, I'm no different than any other person in terms of I didn't have any genetic markers. I wasn't, you know, doing something that most people don't do. Like, oh, you know, if she wouldn't have done that, she would have got, it was nothing like that. It was just kind of, I hate to say it, the luck of the draw that this happened to me. And it was like one in one thousand women get a cancer diagnosis during pregnancy. And I remember reading an article about that that said that. And it was about cancer during pregnancy. And I would have felt way better if I was not the news hook for that article where it was about me. And it was like, but don't worry. This only happens to 1 in 1,000. And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was me. Right. So then now going throughout my life, I have a hard time really telling myself, oh, like I can take comfort in these statistics of how rare it is because that already happened to me. So I don't. Is there something?

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liberating also about that because it's like, okay, it was not the worst case in Eric because they caught it super early. I know you credit, you credit your son basically. It was the earliest possible that I could have found. And I'm so glad that I had the opportunity to just say, all right, take everything. But I guess the thing is like, so the bad thing, it's not worst case because it could have been late stage, God forbid it was not. But. It's pretty bad case. Yeah. Like you get diagnosed with that word, the day you've given birth and everything. So now that you've come through it, even though you're not back to normal and maybe never fully will be, the fact that you've done it, like there has to at least be an empowering side of it as well where you're like, oh my gosh, like where you're proud of yourself and you feel like, okay, it's not perfect, but I got this. Is that resonant? Absolutely it is. I am. A lot, like, so I'm way funnier on stage because I just don't care as much about, I will confident, like, I will confidently say stuff that is just wild, that I can't believe that I get away with saying and that people actually laugh about this situation and about other things too. And I'm just because I'm like, okay, if I could do that, then what, what do I really have to be afraid of? Let me ask you about your comedy because you do. Like comedy clubs, comedy acts. Yeah. I know you were stressing out. I think when we were on vacation together about a really important like audition that you had coming up. So I'm going back out. I'm trying to do more stuff in the city. I am also, it's kind of tough because I'm so busy. But I'm trying to do more stuff in the city. So how does it work? Like, because in my mind, I think I'm a relatively funny person. I'm not sure stand up is something that would. be as easy as some people think it is. Like, oh, I'm a funny person. I could just write some stuff and go, like, it's really, really hard to be good at it. And you have to test drive stuff, right? It's so hard because the only way to find out if something works is to try it. And then, like, sometimes it doesn't. And stuff that you think is going to be really funny. I thought this was so funny. And then you go and share it and everyone just stares at you. And you're like, okay, great. And then the opposite, like, stuff that you don't think is that great. it kills or it will kill in one room and another room it won't you have to just not why does that happen i don't know you'll do you have to just kind of not care like i definitely go on stage and i'll try stuff and i'm like oh like i was on stage somewhere a few months ago trying out a set for something and um i my sister lived next door and she came and like it was it was horrible like it was they was just really bad and then we went back to her apartment and i was like eating chips and she was like If that happened to me, I would be crying. So you bombed. Yeah, I bombed. But, like, I was trying out new stuff. Yeah. So I'm okay. It's like some of it, a lot of it didn't work. And it's like trying to like be a hockey player and be like, oh, no, my teeth fill out. Like it's just all part of this. It's all part of the thing. Do you have things happen to you and then you like write down in a journal that could be funny? Yeah. I'm always writing stuff down. Okay. I'm always writing stuff down. And then like just like notes on your phone and then you go through it and then how do you then turn that into?

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A set. How long is a set when you do comedy? When I go out on the road and do my shows, I do 45 minutes. Okay. Which I find easier to do longer. Because I love, like, I love being on stage. I love talking to people and I love telling these stories and I love talking to them and telling these jokes and like, okay. If they don't like something, then it's like, all right, well, let's go on another direction and stuff like that. I find shorter sets to be a lot more difficult. But yeah, I mean, the sets that I do at comedy clubs involve a lot more of me trying new material in the sets at theaters. It's kind of more tried and true material. But going back out in the road, yeah, I try to bring like a few pages of new stuff that I kind of work through. And I tell people like, all right, well, that was new. You didn't like that. You know, it's just, it's not all going to work all the time. You've actually garnered some prominence and attention from this whole ordeal. I want to reflect on that a little bit, but we've got to take a break very quickly. Cat Timp is with us. Friday's with Cat on Guy Benson continues after this. New talk for a new generation, Guy Benson.

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Cat Timp is with us here in studio on Guy Benson. It's the happy hour. All right, Kat. You had a huge spread in the New York Times style section, if I'm not mistaken. You just had a big exclusive interview with People Magazine, People Health. Is this weird to you to have become kind of like this cultural figure partially because... of the disease that you had no control over? When I posted my New York Times style section cover, the caption was, thanks to a lot of hard work and a little bit of cancer. So yesterday people were congratulating me for my people health cover. I'm like, well, it's because I had cancer. People help. Yeah, like that's why. You don't strive to be on that cover. There's never the cover like. She's fine and always has been. What's her secret? Yeah, that's not like an inspiring story. Like she had no health problems and now she still doesn't, you know. But, you know, it is crazy because it's like if I had the choice, I would never have had this happen. I would not be like, oh, but then I'm giving up, I'm giving up these covers that I've been on. Like, obviously it's not if I'd rather have my boobs. But, you know, it did happen. Although the new ones are very good. Thank you. They are. They are. But it did happen. So it's like, all right. And it's also my, I met, I see my breast surgeon every six months. And I saw her. after right after my New York Times piece. And she said so many of her patients were like, did you see that thing in the New York Times? Like, uh, did you see blah, blah, blah. And they were, and then she can't say that. Oh, like the hit, like, hey, I actually am the one that cut him off. That was me. Yeah, yeah. That was my work actually. So she's like, that was so, you know, inspiring to hear her. So that. Makes me feel so good because if I've helped even one person or a handful of people, but it's actually turned out to be way more than that that I've heard from. Totally. Or people like, hey, I am now getting a mammogram or I am, and I'm sure you can relate to that. People will be like, I'm getting checked out and I wouldn't have before. Then it's- I heard from someone last week who went in and made a dermatology appointment and they caught something. Yeah, yeah. Because of the segment we did. Yeah, that's crazy. And it's like, okay. I am not glad this happened, but then maybe I can, so I don't. I don't force gratitude on myself because sometimes I feel horrible about this. Sometimes I cry, since I can't believe this happens. And I talk about how unfair it is. I really just love it when I see an Instagram about how much better breast milk is for a baby and how you're about, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, cool. Like, I cut my boobs off. So that's not really an option for me. And, but then if there's actual good that I can see that's coming from it, then I'm like, I am grateful.

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Rather than being like, okay, why did this happen to me? Why did it have to happen to me? Why me? And I just be like, okay, well, because it was me, I am this person with this platform. And if I am making a difference in people's lives, then that's actually a win. That's a good thing. I would say a lot good has come out of this really tough situation. And as you put it out, a lot funny has come out of it as well. And so in that sense, again, I'm not saying you'd be like, if I could do it again, I do it exactly the same. But this was thrust upon you. And then it's like, what do you do with it? And. I think you've done a lot of amazing things with it. Thank you. I mean, I opened for Greg a few times at his shows. And the first time, he'd never seen me do just act like straight up stand-up comedy before. And I told him before I'm like, yeah, I have like some definitely have some cancer jokes. He was like, you're going to bring everybody down. And I killed it. Like I was, I absolutely killed it. I did so well. And it's, you know, it's like, I don't know that I was as good on. Actually, I know her fact, I was not as, I was always good on stage. Obviously, I wouldn't have kept doing it. But I'm like, I'm way better on. stage and I've ever thought I could be, and it's directly because of this. Catch the new and improved Cat Timp tonight on Gutfeld with me for the full hour, 10 p.m. Eastern Time Fox News Channel. Really looking forward to that. Might enjoy a beverage or two afterwards as well. Can't wait for that on a Friday night. Cat, this is awesome. Welcome back to this show as well. Thank you. Guy Benson Happy Hour continues after this.

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Talking about the issues you care about. Guy Benson. In our first hour today, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joined us in studio. Always a blast with her. Here's part of my discussion with Fox News cultural icon, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. You have this incredible life, and I said this in my host of your birthday, Greece. I said, you're the coolest person that I know. And that is true. And you go and you look through your life and what you've done and MTV and all like the rock stars who know you and like famous rock songs and like literally written for you and all that. Is it difficult for your daughters to like... get it that their mom is like actually I joke like cultural icon but it's real like is that something that they appreciate will they get it and appreciate it more when they're older are they in denial about it because they're in denial to me but I've actually when they don't know that I'm listening I've overheard them bragging yes and I'm like that is very interesting I was like hmm That's actually probably a healthy combination, right? They're keeping you humble. Yes. But that's, I mean, they know it's badass. The job, especially of teenagers, like to bring their parents back down to earth and to remind them just how uncool they are. But, I mean, it takes quite a set of blinders to be your child and be like, I'm the only reason. And without a shred of irony, I'm the only reason this family is cool. I'm like, you know, I'm not sure that's true. I think we can, we can call up. fact check.org and get that one blown out of the water pretty fast. He might get a few Pinocchioes on that one. With all due respect, young lady, have you been called out from the stage by name by Kurt Cobain? No. But did your friend Bart say something at a school dance? Well, it's about equal. That's cool, though. So this is the younger daughter's birthday tonight. Yes. And in terms of the planning, she's the old soul. So like what does an old soul teenage daughter want for birthday? You know, of course, it's like, do you want a party? And, you know, she's not. a big group kind of person. So she opted for her favorite foods at home. Her dad and his girlfriend are coming over. So it's my sexy teenage fiance, my baby daddy, his girlfriend, who is lovely. All get along. We go to every birthday. We always have Christmas Eve. Yes. And we go to dance recitals. And we always have. How did you pull that off? How did you pull that off? Because when we separated, we made a pact first to each other and then with our children that no matter what happened, we would always be a family. And we would always do family stuff together. And we agreed that whatever issues we had, we would discuss them outside of our children. And when we got back together, we would do so amicably as a family unit. And you all kept to it. Yes.

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So it was just a conscious choice and commitment. Yes. And people can do that. Like divorce attorneys are awful because they pit people against each other. And for their own benefit. For their own benefit. They draw things out. They make things emotional and complicated. And at some point, you have to look at this person and say, at some point, I decided to have children with you. And that is sacred. And that actually rises above anything that. separates and divides two people in their romantic life. And I wish more people would do that. And it can be tough. I mean, there's a reason you split, but there's also a reason that you were together in the first place. And that has to be the driving factor. Has your ex grappled with how hot your fiance is? I think he's more impressed with my fiancé's ability to rewire an entire house by himself. He's full of surprises. Yeah, like he put in a new high voltage charger for our hybrid vehicle by himself. Could not. It's like he had to know like what. wires and box and switch and everything to get and how to plug that into the circle panel and all of these things without burning the house down or electrocuting himself. And he did that in an afternoon. Like to me, that's wildly impressive. No, I would be overcharged so much for whatever that is, right? I would call someone. They would pay through the nose for that and he did it. And he, every once in while, he'll do like, he took out the water heater and put in a tankless heater. on a weekend and he was like, how would you have done this if I wasn't here? And I'm like, easy. Money? That like Angie's list, task rabbit. Like I would have called, I would have made sure I went to the highest bidder because I would assume people who are charging less are less capable. By the way, this is 100% my fault. But. I love how I began by asking you a question about your daughter's birthday. Who's like the quiet, like chill one. Now we've moved completely away. I was like, what does she like for her birthday? You mentioned one word and I chase it like a squirrel in the other direction. She listens to this podcast. She's like, yeah, that sounds right. That full conversation with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and all of today's show available online at Guy Benson.com, part of the free podcast every day, no charge at all on demand. Bonus Guy Benson on the weekends as well. Guy Benson.com, Fox Newspodcast.com, or wherever you get your podcasts. When we come back, a long awaited segment. The Home Stretch featuring Cookie's husband Bobby. I want to bet it's time to pay it off straight ahead. Not the same talking points here. Guy Benson.

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And now it's time for your favorite segment of the day. Home Stretch. It's basically the only segment I'm on. So I've declared it the audience's favorite segment. Guy Benson. Home Stretch on this Friday. Happy Friday. Guy Benson.com. Podcast free every day, including Bonus Guy Benson on the weekends. Catch me this evening in less than an hour on Fox News Channel. Special report. I'm on the panel tonight. Shannon Bream hosting the program. And then I'm on the panel all hour long. with Gutfeld tonight, 10 p.m. Eastern also on FNC, hosting the big weekend show, Saturday, Sunday in the evenings, filling in for Will Kane on TV, 4 p.m. Eastern on Monday. There are all the programming notes out of the way before we get to something I've been looking forward to for months. You may recall, if you're a regular, devoted listener, and if you are, thank you for that, that a bet was made about football months ago. A bet was won by me against Cookie. I always win my bets against Cookie for various reasons. And this time, the fact that I won the bet that the New York Jets, her team missed the playoffs, the payoff for me was I was going to be able to interview Cookie's husband. Some might call him long suffering. I would not. I don't want to use those words. And he would come in studio for the conversation, and Christine would not be allowed to be present in the control room for the interview at all. So she resisted this after losing the bet. She then hoped we would forget. But we did not. So joining us now, in studio, out of earshot of cookie, is the famous legendary Bobby. Bobby, welcome to Guy Benson. Guy Benson, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate the invite here. Of course. Now, Christine had at least said that she was going to write up a list of approved questions for me to ask you. However, she either didn't do it or did not print it out. So I have no approved questions. And I wasn't going to obey the list anyway. But I thought she was going to at least try. But as our senior producer, she sometimes certain things. fall through the cracks from time to time on the show this being one of them i thought she would have been all over this one because it was in her own interest maybe to give me the approved list of questions but i don't have it so i guess just all bets are off fair game free reign well in light of that too your producer when i came in the studio today i asked her what are we talking about what's the plan she goes oh no Yeah, that sounds right. That sounds right, actually. And she, at one point earlier today, I said, yeah, it's kind of a busy day. We were trying to figure out all these moving pieces. I said, I've got four shows. And she said, what are they? I said, America's Newsroom, special report. So Newsroom was this morning, special reports coming up. Got felled later tonight. And then she said, what's the fourth? I said, it's called, Fox News Alert, it's called Guy Benson. And you work on it. And she was like, oh. Yeah, Guy Benson. So this is how things go around here. Bobby, I have to tell you, my best friend, Mary Catherine Hamm, is a regular listener. But wait, Christine told me that you're her, she's your best friend.

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She says that about a lot of people. As Joelle, has she referred to you as her best friend yet? I can agree with you on that, yeah. It has happened already. Already, wild. You don't even officially work full time on the show yet, and yet you've been bestowed a title that dozens, hundreds, I think have received through the years. I think if you've met Christine and known her for more than a day. You're instantly best friends. Yes, as many people down in Florida experienced last week when we needed you there with the business cards handing out, like get out of jail free cards on plans she was making after a few pops. I need to give you a couple hundred of those for when you travel with it. I actually should have those. Just like, you know, my colleague is not in her right mind. Disregard everything she says. Something along those lines. You can work with the verbiage. But my best friend, actual, Mary Catherine Hamm. Big fan of the program. She's a guest here regularly. She loves the home stretch. She loves Bonus Guy Benson on weekends. She texted me literally yesterday saying, hey, I'm catching up on Bonus Guy Benson. Cookie is out of her mind. And I said, you're going to have to be more specific. I mean, that isn't, I don't know immediately what episode you're talking about. It could be really any episode. It's a standard text in her phone. That's right. Copy and paste. So you learn a lot of things about your wife. your family, your life, your finances from listening to this segment on a regular basis. Have there ever been moments where you have been genuinely stunned by something happening in your... household that you did not know until learning about it with the rest of the world on Guy Benson well it's i call this segment my calendar basically because this is when i learned what i'm doing and when i'm doing it uh the most stunning one and you've talked about on the show is when she sold the house or tried to sell a house behind my back and then all of a sudden i put the home stretch on like always and i hear that like there's a realtor at your home right now correct and you did not know that no okay Okay. So have you just sort of made peace with this or have you tried to implement reforms? No, I'm leaning fully in on this one. I'm embracing it and I'm enjoying it. Okay. A little spontaneity in life. How did you guys meet? We actually met in this building that we're in right now. I used to work at Fox News Radio. We, I think we were about a month apart when we got hired. I worked on a different show than her, but then. When we had her fill in, she had a great rapport with the host, and they had it back and forth, and so we brought her onto our show. And then through that, we spent hours and hours every day together, and we fell in love, and the rest is history. She has said on and off the air that she couldn't stand you at first. Like you were maybe interested in her. She had no interest at all. Ew, Bobby, absolutely not. And of course, things changed, and now you're married. Could you have played your cards differently, Bobby? Do you ever regret pursuing...

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cookie the way that you did because she was predisposed not to want to marry you. And then you made active efforts to win her over. That is a choice. That was indeed a choice. Yes, she called me a bunch of horrible names to her family, to her friends. And when I first met all of these people when we were dating, they said, oh, you're not as bad as Christine said you were. A ringing endorsement. It really is. Yeah. But it's been wonderful ever since. A surprise every day, at least. Are you aware of all of the, I mean, beyond what we talk about on the show, all the psychic stuff and like the pet mediums and the time shares and the, there's all of the schemes? It's one of those things we're lying in bed and she says, oh. And like what? And then she goes through some trend on Instagram or she's on a social media network and they're telling her you need to talk to this pet psychic and she's all in. That's one of the good things about her is when she goes in and something, she goes all in. And then when it's over, it's never again. It's over, right. Do you have plans on your own to save for Megan's college? Because Christine, the money's going to all these pet projects. Well, the psychic said she's not going to college. So I think we're saved. Did she? I don't know. I'm sure. There's too many psychics and too much information. One of them at some point probably said that. Sure. Then Christian would be like, but what about my daughter? And the psych would be like, wait, I'm feeling I'm hearing, I'm receiving that you have a daughter. She's like, how did you know that? Having just told her. Okay. So. You are on a crazy schedule with your job. Oh, hang on. Can you see her? Oh, Christine is menacing. She is outside the studio. She's outside the control room, per the terms of the debate, but she is now glaring through multiple windows here at you trying to intimidate my guess. She's giving me the cutthroat sign. It's like from Meet the Parents with Robert De Niro, like I'm watching you. Now she's slowly making her way. in violation of the bet into the studio. Now, here's the thing. The fact that Christine has now abrogated the terms of the bet to me means that I might have to go nuclear in response because the only... punishment i can think of for christine breaking the terms of the bet is to not just book you bobby but in the future at a time undetermined maybe on one of her many vacations bringing in judgy joyce her mother i think that's what i have to do have to it's it's not my fault i got kicked jimmy uh phala just kicked me out of his studio he said i was the first guest to ever be kicked out first person yeah but that doesn't mean you have to be here there's many other offices around here Yeah, but nobody's there to talk to. Yeah, but you can sit quietly alone with your thoughts. Could you work, maybe? She doesn't know what that is. She doesn't know what that is. Christine, by the way, you never printed out your list of approved questions, so I just have been brainstorming on the fly. Well, to be fair, I figured I was wasting my time because you were never going to ask them. That's correct. All right. Are we done yet? Not quite. We're almost done. We're almost done. What is your favorite?

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home stretch moment and what is a home stretch worthy memory that we don't know about involving producer christine my favorite home stretch moment i think it's more of a home stretch idea than a moment. It's when you and Christine are going back and forth and you're getting these digs in and she doesn't get it or she's not paying attention to it. And then five minutes later she goes, wait a second. Yeah. That always gets me every time. We have the back and forth and I'm making comments and she's just not listening to me at all. And sometimes she'll hear it later on the podcast and I'll get an angry text like three days later because she's finally heard the gem that I have served up for the audience. Just completely missed her. Anything that happened. in your life with her, anything that you think, a layer of the onion that we have not yet discovered? This onion is pretty wide open. No, I really don't think so. She's more open than anything. She tells everybody everything all the time. That is true. It's so much onion. It could make actually a delicious batch of French onion soup, which I know she loves. That was another lost bet. Does she ever talk in her sleep? Yes, she does all the time. What does she say? gibberish crazy things gibberish things um anything about me nothing about you yet luckily okay luckily i she used to talk in her sleeve so much i had a twitter account when twitter first started and when she spoke on the i used to tweet what she said is that sadly i deleted it no i know it was a really dumb decision by young bobby Oh, we've got to resurrect that somehow. That's good idea. I need to read those quotes. I need her to read her own quotes out loud. Oh, that'd be great. That would be a very funny segment. Has her sleep talking ever involved a mention of Carousel? Not Carousel by name, but she's mentioned. ponies in her sleep in her sleep she is tormented by the guilt of what she did to carousel she definitely is yeah she murdered her pony as a child she's not here to lie and deny it we just know that this is the case and does she make like any sort of neighing sounds does she gallop in her sleep no she does not she only gallops on the wine that's what she gallops on mama's juice exactly and are you just sort of like let it flow have a good time designated driver bobby For the most part. There's a point. There's a line. There's a line. I know when it gets to it. When the cards come out. Yeah. Got it. Well, this was a fabulous conversation. Next time I win a bet again with her. We'll have to have you back. Deal. And we appreciate you being such a good sport about all of this. God bless you. She is a character and you take it all in stride with great aplomb and you guys are raising an amazing kid. And this was really fun. I'm so happy you came into the studio and the bet has now been paid. Well, thank you for having me and please keep her employed.

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I know it's a lot to deal with. I can't make any problems. I'm trying to run a successful show here. So we'll see what happens. Okay. About that. Bobby, thank you. Thanks, guy. All right. Lots of television coming up tonight's special report and Gutfeld. Big weekend show over the weekend. Will Kane on Monday. Lots going on. In the meantime, please stay sane. Stay safe. Have a great weekend. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music with your prime membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.