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It is Wednesday, May 6th, 2026. I'm Guy Benson. Welcome everyone to Guy Benson, live from New York City today. Guy Benson.com, our website, the podcast is always free, always on demand when the show is over. You can email us, GBS at fox.com, follow us on social at Guy Benson's show. You can follow me as well at Guy Benson. I'm a political analyst here at Fox News, a senior columnist at the Washington Examiner. Lots of TV coming up in the days ahead, including at least scheduled America's newsroom tomorrow morning, Gutfeld tomorrow evening. outnumbered on Friday, the big weekend show Saturday, Sunday. I will remind you of all of that in the days to come, but in New York here for a spell for those TV duties. And here on the radio, we're together every weekday between 3 and 6 p.m. Eastern, and we always appreciate you being here. And again, if you miss any of any show, we've got that podcast that I mentioned on the program today. The Trump administration's secretary of the interior, Doug Burgum, former governor of North Dakota, he will join us on a huge discovery in the United States with major implications. Looking forward to that conversation with him later this hour. Steve Moore, the economist on the state of the U.S. economy, not just gas prices, but sort of broader picture. Some decent jobs news today, at least as anticipated by a private sector measuring stick. We'll talk to Steve about those issues and beyond. And then in our last hour, Rich Ziole, an expert observer of Pennsylvania politics on a lot of things happening in the Keystone state. In terms of political maneuvering, interpersonal relationships among high-powered Democrats, The governor looking toward the White House, Senator John Fetterman now being perhaps wooed by the Republican Party to leave the Democrats and maybe even join Team Red. Is there any truth to that? Is that even plausible? We will talk about all of it because if you know even a tiny bit about American politics, you know that Pennsylvania matters a lot. You might even call it one of the keystones. of American politics and political success on a national stage. So that will be an interesting conversation in our final hour today. Another important state on our political landscape as the locus of sort of left-wing energy and an example, the not-so-shining example of democratic governance, is, of course, California, our most populous state. And at long last, Gavin Newsom will no longer be governor in California with so many things going wrong, him being no longer eligible. He, of course, having various ambitions, shall we say, on a national scale. And so there will be, and by the way, people leaving that state. We were just talking about that earlier in the week.

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California had a net population loss again last year with domestic outflow hitting nearly 300,000 people. The only reason it wasn't worse is because of immigration. And I'll actually come back to that theme in just a moment. But in order to replace Gavin Newsom for governor, they have coming up early next month a jungle primary where the top two finishers will go on to a general election. And there was a time where it seemed like there was maybe an outside shot that two Republicans could be the top two finishers, both like in the 20% range in a crowded field. And then the general election would be between Republicans in a place that blue. Would have been very funny. I'm not saying it is impossible now, but it seems much less likely as the polling has shaken out and settled down a little bit. Some Democrats have gotten out, including Eric Swalwell, of course, for various reasons. In all likelihood, one Democrat and one Republican seems like the likeliest scenario, but you never know. It could be two Democrats. It could be two Republicans. Could be one of each. We'll see what happens in a number of weeks. So they have these sort of wild debates and candidate forums out there because there isn't a Democratic primary debate or a Republican primary debate where people on each side. dispute and squabble amongst themselves and make the case to be the party nominee. That's not how their system works. Instead, you have just kind of like this almost unwieldy at times, free-flowing debate across party lines. We have a bunch of Democrats and two Republicans on stage, and they're all going at each other and jockeying for position and advantage in different ways. It's kind of a fascinating thing. And there were a few. statements that were made last night on stage that I think merit some attention just because California politics are significant, especially because the Democrats' last presidential nominee came out of California and currently the top two front runners for president in 2028, at least at the moment. I'm not convinced it will stay this way, but in many of the polls, the top two candidates are both Californians. So we ignore what's happening out there at our peril, and we're not going to do that. And we also have lots of listeners out in the state of California. So where to begin? How about here? I want to start with something that I appreciated. Steve Hilton, who used to host a weekend show here at Fox, he's an immigrant from the United Kingdom. He's running as a Republican for governor in California. He was asked a question about immigration, and I thought he gave a terrific answer using his own immigrant experience to underpin the answer. Cut 24, listen here.

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Mr. Hilton, right now, President Trump is enacting a policy of mass deportation. As you know, roughly half of California farm workers, which are an essential part of this state's economy, are undocumented. As governor, would you push to deport them? So I'm the only immigrant on stage. I'm a legal immigrant, and Americans support immigration when it is properly controlled. And what we saw under the Biden... administration, open borders, undermined everybody's support for immigration. And as governor, I've made it very clear. Although it is the federal government's responsibility to determine and implement immigration policy, I think it's important that all the laws are peacefully enforced. And as governor, I would make sure that we work with the federal government to enforce our laws. Now, I think to the average American, that is a terrific answer from Steve Hilton. To the type of voter that dominates California politics, I'm not sure. They would accuse him, certainly the left-wing voters, of being anti-immigrant, even though he is one. Because they conflate all the time legal and illegal immigration and immigrants, which is not fair to the legal immigrants who go through quite a process. laborious, lengthy, expensive to become legally part of the American family, or at least to be here in accordance with our laws. You spit on that when you simply erase the line between legal and illegal, which he refuses to do there, obviously. He said, I am an immigrant, the only one on stage. I came here legally, and I think that we should enforce our laws peacefully and that we should not. go out of our way to resist the federal government. We should cooperate with the federal government when it comes to enforcing law. That is the mainstream position in the United States of America, but definitely not in democratic politics and maybe not in deep blue states like California. But I still like the way that he framed that. Meanwhile, on the other side of these questions, you had this pose to Katie Porter. right, who was a congresswoman in California, has gotten into some hot water for various reasons, including for pouring hot potatoes on her ex-husband on purpose and berating and abusing staffers and all this sort of thing. She's apparently really quite something, a terror to be around and to work for. And we'll come back to that. But she was asked a question about health care, taxpayer-funded health care for illegal immigrants. Listen to the question, then the answer, starting in cut 19. Then there's another one. Congresswoman Katie Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding health care for undocumented immigrants statewide? Yes. Yes. And that's, by the way, what I think Californians deserve as answers to these questions. Californians deserve. a regime in which illegal immigrants get taxpayer-funded health care benefits and plans. It was just a straight yes. And by the way, that isn't a controversial position at all in Democrat circles, certainly in California. Not even really nationally anymore, but especially in California, where actually under Gavin Newsom, they moved to cover virtually all illegal immigrants with taxpayer-funded health plans. Now, the problem is...

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The math doesn't work. And Medi-Cal, which is their state system, has run out of money. The spending has exploded. They cannot afford to cover the citizens, let alone all the non-citizens, including all these illegal immigrants. The math doesn't work. And so even Gavin Newsom, who wants desperately to be beloved by his left-wing base, which is why he helped lead the drive to get that policy implemented in the first place, he's had to curtail it at the margins at least because the math is so disastrous. I think it's just wrong period to force taxpayers to give health plans to people who have come into the country illegally. But Katie Porter, full stop, the answer is yes. It is what Californians deserve. And she very much views. And this is, again, right in the middle now of her party. This is their mainstream view. If you are in California, having entered the United States illegally, you are a Californian. And in fact, Californians, like you, illegal immigrants, deserve free, quote unquote, health care. And then she sort of said the quiet part out loud, remember what I was just saying about people leaving the state of California, nearly 300,000 Americans leaving California for other states, and the only reason that their net outflow was not worse than it was, although it was net negative. Again, that is almost unprecedented in the history of California. In fact, it was unprecedented until Gavin Newsom and COVID and beyond. They were net negative last year. The number would have been worse except for immigration. So not so quiet part out loud on a debate stage, Katie Porter, one of the Democrats running for governor out there, cut 20. It's the job of the California governor to protect every single Californian. The sanctuary state policy is designed to make sure that our state resources, the taxpayer dollars, the public servants that we have, are focusing on doing their jobs, which is not cooperating with the federal immigration authorities. These are Californians. They contribute to our economy. They pay taxes. And they're one of the only ways that our state has been growing in recent years. Ah, there it is. These are Californians, just in case we were at all unclear what her view is. Illegal immigrants residing in California are Californians. They're entitled to all the entitlements, apparently, according to Katie Porter. Heaven for Fenn, we do anything to help the federal government enforce the laws of our country. And those illegal immigrants are, she said, one of the only reasons. Our state has been growing in recent years, although the population did shrink last year. But it would have been worse, if not for the immigration inflow. Americans are leaving. Immigrants are coming in. Remember there was a New York congresswoman saying actually she wants more illegal immigrants in her district for the purposes of population counts in the census?

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So New York doesn't lose seats because they deserve to lose seats. People are leaving. They are streaming out. They are fleeing because you can't afford to live there. And it's unsafe and it's extremely expensive. And the regulation and taxes are choking everyone. In order to try to stop the bleeding, Democrats plan in many cases is illegal immigration. As admitted right there by Katie Porter. who, by the way, at one point she was like trying to get up on her high horse about her temperament and how dare people question my temperament? Well, there's a lot of reasons and many of them are actually on video, which is part of her problem. But she said, oh, everyone's interrupting each other and being very rude. How dare any of these people talk about my temperament? And one of the Republicans in this race, Chad Bianco, is like, well, actually, you were also interrupting. And then she got all. sassy and defensive. And she said, cowboy up, cupcake. It's like, okay. So the little half second that you were pretending that you're a person with strong temperament, he punctured it in like two seconds by noting that you were very much part of the interruption fest. And then you're going straight to like the schoolyard name calling, which is on brand. Tom Steyer, near the top, billionaire, hardcore left winger. He's the one who wants to prosecute ICE and throw them in California prisons. There's also the quite moderate mayor, I believe, of San Jose, who would be a massive improvement, certainly over the current crop of leadership statewide, but he does not seem to be getting a lot of traction. And then there's the potential new frontrunner, Xavier Becerra, formerly of the Biden administration. What about him? Another piece of sound that I want you to hear when we come back just getting started. Wednesday edition of Guy Benson from New York. Stay tuned. New Talk for a New Generation, Guy Benson. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox Newswineshop.com with code FN Radio 20. 20. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 older to order. Please drink responsibly.

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When I saw him in the administration, and I think a lot of people did, and people understand this, it's he was not effective in government. And I think that a lot of people in the Biden administration are talking about this because they realize that he was not an effective HHS secretary. And if you ask any cabinet secretary, they would tell you the same thing. And so I think that there is a, I think people recognize this. And I think this is why Tom Steyer has gone to the top. All right, that was Sochi Inohosa on CNN doing, I believe, their postgame show on the debate that we were just talking about in the first segment. And she was discussing the frontrunner, or one of the front runners for the Democrats in the governor's race in California, former congressman and former HHS secretary Xavier Becerra. And she was saying, based on her deep ties into the Biden administration, he was lousy. as HHS secretary. He was ineffective at governing. He didn't do a good job. He was not an effective HHS secretary. She said it every way that she could. She's like, if you talk to anyone in the administration, any cabinet secretary, they know it, they recognize it. Now, I'm sure that's true on one hand. And by the way, I guess now they just want to. promote him to running the biggest state in the country after that performance at HHS. I was very critical of him on this show. They put an unqualified lawyer in charge of the health department during a global pandemic, which he handled poorly. Then monkey pox. He was a disaster. They tried to basically bully and shame him out of the job by leaking against him for four years. They would leak to reporters. You can go find the stories. Really negative quotes about his terrible performance from inside the administration. hoping that maybe he would just get the picture and leave, fall on his sword and leave. But old Xavier Becerra knew you never get fired by Joe Biden, no matter how bad you are, no matter how disgraceful the performance is. From Afghanistan and beyond, you don't get fired. So he just stubbornly hung on. And he took all the insults. He didn't care. And I guess his reward is now to be frontrunner for governor in California. He was picked, by the way, for that job. Don't ask me. This is reported in the Washington Post because there was pressure on Biden to pick a Hispanic. So they're like, oh, look at his skin color and his last name. Let's make him health secretary. And it didn't work out well, as so many things did not work out well under President Biden. We'll post script on the debate last night and we'll be right back.

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Talking about the issues you care about, Guy Benson. Back here on Guy Benson. Guy Benson.com is our website, podcast always free. And we are honored to welcome back to the program, Doug Burgum. He is the 55th Secretary of the Interior to the United States of America. He is chairman of President Trump's National Energy Dominance Council, and he is the former governor of North Dakota. Mr. Secretary, welcome back. Guy, great to be with you. Always fun to be on your show. Well, I appreciate that very much. One of the reasons that we are able to be energy dominant if we pursue the right policies is that we are blessed with incredible natural resources in the United States. And that's something that I know you keep preaching because it's true. Maybe we'll talk about that in a moment. But I have to begin with this jaw-dropping. kind of game-changing discovery of this massive lithium deposit found in the Appalachian region of the United States, which could help power our needs in this country, not for years, but my understanding is for centuries. Tell us about this. Well, this goes back to under President Trump and our energy dominance policy at the high level. This is, you know, having enough energy to sell to our friends and allies so they don't have to buy from, you know, adversaries that are either like waging World War I-style war in Eastern Europe or they're, you know, funding terror groups or the IRGC, which is a terror group now with an oil field, waging terrorism on the whole world. You know, energy dominance is about, you know, prosperity at home and peace abroad. Part of that energy dominance is critical minerals. Lithium key to critical minerals, I mean, everybody might be familiar, you know, never heard of lithium 10 years ago, but if you've got a cell phone now or you've got anything, everybody knows about lithium batteries, it's used in advertising, as people know that it's key, but whether it's, you know, automobiles, laptops, and aerospace, medical devices, we need it. And the U.S. Geologic Survey, which is part of Department of Interior, When President Trump took over, we said, hey, we've got to get back all of these bureaus and agencies and departments, the federal government, back to their original core function. And under the prior administration, Biden administration, and before that, with the Obama administration, USGS, you know, kind of figured out, well, hey, if we're not going to do any mining in this country, what do we need? Their core function was mapping, finding out where the minerals are underground. I mean, it was part of our energy abundance as a country. And part mapping is literally important. There's a book written called The Map That Changed in the World. It was one of the first geologic underground maps that allowed England to figure out they had all this coal. It led them to being a superpower for 100 years because they were powering their entire economy and that with low-cost energy at home, which allowed them to create their global system of power that Great Britain had. And so the U.S. Geologic Survey was our lead scientific agency doing mapping. They almost stopped mapping. In some cases, the Biden administration, when they put away these restrictions on federal land, they said, not only can you not develop these resources for the benefit of the use of the American people, the USGS was restricted from doing mapping, which is just crazy. That's their core thing. So they drifted into what some have called Bugs and Bunny studies.

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We've reversed all that. They're back to the core focus of mapping. And this is one of the results. You saw it. It's astounding the amount of resource that we have here in the U.S. And right now, this is one of these things where we're completely dependent almost on imports and we're dependent on China for doing the processing of lithium. And so, Guy, you were like totally on top of this thing. It's so fun. You're the first person that's asking about it. It's great you're keeping up on. on underground lithium deposits that are just ginormous. Well, I mean, it's not in my wheelhouse per se, but I know that lithium is really important. And I know that we're worried about, okay, are we going to be relying on other countries or even China? That's always part of the conversation. And from what I've read, this discovery... in our own country contains enough lithium to replace more than 300 years worth of imports of lithium, which sounds almost miraculous. But you're saying this actually is a direct result of a policy pivot that the Trump administration you guys made away from what truly sounds like a crazy stance and posture under Biden. Yeah, well, it was, and in this, you know, the simplest way, you know, President Trump, I love the way that he simplifies things down, and everybody knows the words drill baby drill, which was about energy abundance. Well, when we met with the USGS, we said your job is map baby map, you know, which is we've got to get out and find out what resources we have as a country, and this is one of those great finds, and there's more that we're going to find. I mean, there's, we have large swaths, including federal land. where we have, that are unmapped. And the mapping techniques and innovations have gotten so much better. So without, you know, having to drill holes and do seismic, which is, you know, where you drop a charge down thousands of feet, you know, it goes off, you know, you track what the reaction is of the rock around it, and you kind of get an underground map that way. There's all kinds of things, whether we're looking for critical minerals, looking for water, with essentially, you know, like an MRI of the earth. Earth MRI is actually one of the names of one of the projects. We can, without physical, just digital or optical or sonar, we can penetrate the ground and get a pretty good reading on what's going there as for the first case and then come back. But so innovation and AI is helping us identify these massive resources. And again, we've got to break the stranglehold that China has on the United States on critical minerals because they literally have. This is the best card they've got to play. They're a country that is has to import more energy than any other country. They're the most energy dependent country China is. They're the most food dependent. They have to import about 30% of their calories every day. So no energy security and no food security. But one thing they do have, they've got the rest of the world. They've got a playing card called We Control the Processing on Critical Minerals. We've got to get back to this, and we can. Because you know who led the world in lithium mining and processing 30 years ago? The United States of America.

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Like so many other things, we lead in copper, we led in a bunch of these critical minerals, and we walked away from all of it because of sometimes state and sometimes federal, but rules that said, we're going to save a planet by no more mining or refining here. And as soon as we did that, we were destroying the world because these other guys don't have EPA. They don't have... reclamation. They're doing it. They're doing it all dirtier, and they're doing it in a way that gives them leverage over us and other countries. Just an insane policy, actually, to regulate and restrict those things out of existence. But that is now a tide being reversed, and this is really, I think, a huge, huge story, this discovery of this lithium supply. I do want to talk just briefly about this concept of energy dominance because... There are many very positive stories to tell, and you've alluded here, Mr. Secretary, to a few of them. But to the American consumer right now, I know there's a lot of anxiety about the cost of gasoline, which is what people often experience every single day or at least every single week. And a lot of the conversation is around the war against the Iranian regime. I think the president has made the right decision for reasons that I've explained. But there are some... costs to that, some side effects to that. And a lot of people are nervous about the cost, not just of gasoline, but cost of oil, price of oil, really flows into a lot of different elements of people's lives. And people have been spending too much money and prices have been too high for too long. What is your message? to those Americans who may be skeptical of the war in Iran, who might be impatient because they want those gas prices to come back down as promised. What would you say to them? Well, first thing I would say is, you know, President Trump cares deeply about affordability for Americans. And you saw this. He came in and inherited some of the highest energy prices that America had ever seen. And very quickly, within a year, got them, you know, substantially, substantially reduced. And everything's headed the right direction. So, A, President Trump cares about it. President Trump knows how to get the prices down. We got a situation now where it's... When we say Iran, Iran is essentially gone as a country. We've got the IRGC, which is already known and identified globally as a terror group. We have a terror group that's holding their own country hostage, and they have an oil field. And I think, again, both the military and now the economic blockade and the economic stuff is all working to take a terror group that had leverage. over a piece of geography and things. So I'm confident that we're going to have a really positive outcome. I'm very confident in President Trump delivering that. But in the meantime, when we look back here, when we talk about it from a political standpoint or when we talk about it from a consumer standpoint, you say, when you're talking about your listening, you had a national audience, what state are you in? Because, you know, the lowest prices in California in 2025 before the...

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Before this current conflict with the IRGC and Iran began, the lowest prices there were higher than the higher prices in most all other states. And we've got states like California that, you know, 60 plus percent of their oil and gas coming from foreign countries. They've created an energy island by policy. They've created specialty fuel requirements. By design. It's that expensive by design. It's their policy. Yes. Yes, they had 40 refineries, and now they had eight going to seven going to six because you can't make money. They pass laws like we're going to cap profitability on refinery. We're going to pass all these different environmental laws. They basically are running all the refiners out of business. Texas, by contrast, has 36 going to 37 refineries. But you'd say, oh, we'll find it in Texas and we'll ship it to California. They block all the pipelines. So self-inflicted, and there's similar stories in the northeast. So we've got parts of our country in the northeast and on the west coast that basically followed these European-style energy transition. And energy transition in reality meant energy subtraction, which you're going to have less energy, and therefore the price goes up. So if you live in an energy subtraction state, you're going to have different results than if you live in a place that had... You know, Trump-style pro-energy, American affordable, reliable energy, we're going to see a bifurcation of where the economy of this country is going to be divided by those states that have got low energy prices, low electricity prices. They're going to get the bulk of all the capital investment that's coming with AI, advanced manufacturing, advanced distribution, advanced anything, because all of the industries of the future. You know, including things like medicine and education are going to require more electricity because we're going to be using AI in all these industries. And electricity is one of the key inputs. So we're going to see different results. And, of course, you know who's screaming the loudest about the high prices? The states that have the highest prices. And they're the ones that had self-inflicted. policies which should be happy at higher prices because that's their actual policy because they want to drive carbon emissions down and basically ban fossil fuels. That's what they want to do. So they should be cheering any high gas prices for any reason because that's what they've done artificially to their prices due to their policy as opposed to this temporary. hopefully soon to be over with a positive outcome hiccup for, I think, a cause, a large global security and American security cause that is going to be worthwhile. I do want to ask you finally, Mr. Secretary, last week we covered actually pretty extensively the King's visit to the United States and his speech to Congress and the state dinner and there were some wonderful things that he said. And I think the president spoke. Very eloquently about the special relationship between our country and theirs. So did the king, of course. He was greeted very warmly by both parties in Congress, which you don't always see these days. You had the opportunity to host and greet and meet the king. Tell us about that. How was that?

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Well, it was obviously a real honor to be part of this administration and part of those that were hosting the King. I had an opportunity along with Catherine, who's the former First Lady of North Dakota, now part of the administration and the work that she's doing with the Great American Recovery along with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on getting rid of the stigma and associated with... the disease of addiction so we can treat it like the chronic disease it is. But she and I were there. We got to greet him that afternoon when they arrived at the ambassador's house. That was terrific. I had a chance to hear him, hear the president to give that amazing speech in front of the White House with the King, got a chance to go to the state dinner, which was remarkable. The President and Melania, incredible host, and the King that night, as you know, was reported, delivered some great one-liners, as does our president all the time. But then a special thing was then on Thursday, Catherine and I had a chance to host him at Shenandoah National Park. He's got a great love of the outdoors, and so the two of us were there and had a chance to meet him and spend time with him there. So I had four different touch points with him. And again, I thought the whole week was brilliantly executed by the White House and by President Trump. And it really reflects, again, that special relationship. So finally, relatedly, have you heard or seen some of the memes that you might sort of resemble some of the portraits of George Washington? Are you aware of this meme about you? Yeah, I'm laughing because some of them are quite humorous. Oh, they're amazing, but I saw one of the photos of you at Shenandoah with the King, and the caption of one of the tweets was something like, pictured, George Washington meets King of England. And I burst out laughing, and I hope that you had seen it. I had, and it was, and of course, the King of England is related to George III. He lost the battle. And I did have a chance to share with some of the, when I spoke as at an event earlier at Mount Vernon with the Deputy Prime Minister of England, I did thank the UK for turning down our George Washington's desire to serve in the British Army. They turned them down for a commission. And he ended up leading our troops and, you know, and overthrew with a little, the band of patriots that we had here are the largest and most powerful country in the world. So as part of my remarks, I just, I thank them for not admitting George Washington to the British Army. Amazing. We've had some fun with that. Now we are grateful for that. loss that they impose on themselves huge win for the united states and here we are 250 years later incredible stuff Doug Burgum is the secretary of the interior and the trump administration chairman of the national energy dominance council and former governor of north dakota as well george washington look alike of course have to add that mr secretary thank you so much

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Guy, great to be with you always, and thanks for being so on top of the issue. And thanks to all your Patriot listeners that are, you know, informed listeners help us keep this country on track. We appreciate you. We appreciate your listeners. Thank you. Well, you bet. Thanks so much. And with that, we will step aside and come right back on Guy Benson. Not the same talking points here, Guy Benson. Back on Guy Benson, something that we have covered here for years has been D.C. crime. which was truly out of control for years. It got really bad during and immediately after the pandemic. It has improved dramatically since President Trump made the decision to bring in the National Guard, which was, oh my goodness, demagogue to the hilt by all the usual suspects, but a lot of the screaming from many D.C. leftists even, or maybe liberals, high-end progressives, and even a lot of just working class people, they have noticed. that things are better and that crime has come down. So some of those objections have become more muted. Even the mayor who's often, I think, criticized for good reason, and I fear that they're going to replace her with someone worse because she's not running again, Mariel Bowser was not guns ablazing against that policy because it's actually working. And we gave you some of those stats just recently about the turnaround. However, they were trying to claim there for a while that, oh, look, crime is coming down before the National Guard got involved. And they were trying to pretend, I felt like pretend like the problem was being solved. And then the allegations came out and the whistleblowers that they were cooking the books on crime stats. and that they were manipulating the crime stats to make them look lower for political reasons. And now the police department has terminated 13 officials related to the alleged manipulation of crime data. So that seems to confirm the problem and perhaps actually visit some accountability on people. Wow. We're flagging here on Guy Benson for you. And another hour is coming up.

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new generation of conservative talk right here right now fair fun and backed by the trusted voices and reporting resources of fox news you're listening to Guy Benson and now here's your host Guy Benson It's a new hour here on Guy Benson. We're in New York for the rest of the week for some TV reasons. We're more to say about that at the end of the show. We're glad that you're listening wherever you are all across the country or around the world. Guy Benson.com is our website. The podcast is always free of charge. Fox News Alert. The Dow with a jolt up 611 points at the close today. ending just shy of Dow 50,000, 49,910 to be precise. Markets liking reports that President Trump, and he's put this out there publicly as well, feels confident that they are getting very close to some sort of nuclear and... security agreement with what's left of the Iranian regime, which could mean that the main portion of the war or hostilities could be drawing to a close, although Trump also warns if Iran does not agree to the key tenants, then back to the bombs we go. But the optimism fueling, among other things, fueling this surge on Wall Street in a rally today and a big one. And that is something we'll keep an eye on. And we will also, of course, look at the details or at least the sketch that we're aware of of this potential deal with the regime. What would that look like? Is that practical? Can it be enforced? Would we not repeat all the same mistakes or any of the same mistakes of the Obama administration's terrible nuclear deal? That is something that I hope to explore in the coming days on this show. But again, I'm just sort of in a wait and C mode a little bit because we've had optimistic language from the administration, which then toggles back in another direction rather quickly because the regime, of course, is not to be trusted for all the reasons, many of which you are well aware of. That being said, big day on Wall Street, a lot of questions swirling out there about the U.S. economy among consumers and voters. And with us now to talk about some of those questions is economist Steve Moore, co-founder of Unleash Prosperity. You've seen his byline all over the place. He's on Fox all the time. He's written multiple books at Stephen Moore on social. Steve, great to have you back. Hey, guy, great to be with you. And boy, Dow 50,000. That's a pretty amazing thing. We're just, as you said, we're just shy of it. It was flirting with going back over 50,000 and just fell a little bit below. But it's good to be back at that near peak. Now, a lot of it is dependent on what actually happens when it comes to this military conflict against the regime. As I was just talking about briefly last hour, I've been supportive of it for many reasons. I think it's important to get the job done.

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And I want to know exactly if there is finally a diplomatic solution after all the military action, what would that in fact look like, et cetera. But one of the big, I think, factors that a lot of people are curious about is what would that mean for their bottom line? If we can get this thing resolved in relatively short order. I mean, historically speaking, keeping this in perspective, this is a very, very young conflict, just a few months old. But still. People, when it comes to paying high gas prices, especially after all the years of inflation, there's kind of a very short leash for any sort of disruption or unpleasantness. So what's your read on sort of energy prices and the costs involved there as you think about this broader economic picture that Americans are weighing? Well, I mean, let's talk about what's happened in the stock market in the last 24 hours. And I don't like to rain on a parade, but I do worry a little bit about, you know, what Ellen Greenspan used to call irrational exuberance. Right. Because, you know, we've seen over the last couple months, the Iranians one day say one thing, and then the next day they say another. And then the Dow goes up and down and up and down. And I feel like I'm on a roller coaster here. But if this is real and we do have some kind of a settlement that everybody can agree with, then. That I'm very optimistic. I mean, look, the first 14 months of Trump's presidency in a second term following his blackbuster first term on the economy were excellent. You know, we had a great first 14 months with income gains for American workers and we had record stock market and we had small businesses doing really well. I believe a guy that we can get back to that, but it's a big IF, it's a big capital IF. If we can actually get the straight of hormones open, and if those oil channels, you know, provide the supply chain so we can get the oil. By the way, the oil price today is down, is only, it's still up at about $94, $95 a barrel, which is very high. I mean, before all this started, we were below $70 a barrel. So. You know, there's still a lot of room for the oil price to come down. And as you know, I mean, it's just a truism that when the oil price goes up, the price of everything else tends to go up because oil is important and everything we produce. So I don't want to be irrationally exuberant here because there's still a long way to go to make sure that the Iranians are going to behave themselves. Yeah, and I would just add, ensuring that the core goals of this mission. that the Iranians never get a nuclear weapon, that they are unable to enrich in any significant way, that we get the nuclear dust out of there, that they stop supporting terrorism. These key things, the Strait of Hormuz open, you can't just say, well, we're worried about gas prices, so all those strategic missions can now get shoved off to the side. This all has to have been worth it. And I think that in the short, medium, long term, it's absolutely worth it, even if there is. short-term pain, but you also can't ignore the pain, right? So there's there's sort of this balancing act when it comes to policymaking and we'll see how the administration lands if they land here. Apparently President Trump telling our colleague here, Brett Bayer, that he thinks the deal.

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It would take maybe a week or two to hammer out. So we will see, won't we? Meanwhile, there's a jobs report, not the official government jobs report, but this private sector ADP report that indicates April was better than expected on job creation. I will see how that jibes, if it does with the official government numbers from BLS, but that's still... potentially a good sign here, Steve, when you're looking at the health of the economy, this ADP number. I've been surprised at how good some of these reports are that have come out in the last 10 days or so. So, for example, the second quarter, the first quarter GDP number came out. This is the first estimate that's January February or March or cover some of what happened in Iran, and we got 2% growth. Now, that's not a great number except for the fact that, you know, a lot of people thought it could be even negative and it wasn't. And one of the cool things and really upbeat things about that report was that businesses are spending like crazy. I mean, this AI robotics revolution is very real. The amount of money that's going into technology, something like $700 billion just in the last few months, is incredible. Now, I know some people have different. attitudes about the AI robotics revolution. I know some people are nervous about it, but it will be one of the greatest enhancements of productivity in history if this stuff actually works like the robots and the AI. So, you know, and then we said we got a pretty good jobs report. So I guess I would use the word resilient that this economy, even though we throw some body blows at it, it still pushes on. Let's talk about the Fed chair and the nominee of President Trump, obviously he's been very frustrated with Jerome Powell. And we had, I think, a misbegotten retaliatory criminal investigation into Jerome Powell that has now been dropped. And I think that was a dark chapter. And I was very critical of that. And you also had some senators, including Republicans saying, until that gets resolved, because they also felt like it was nonsense, then there would be no movement on Kevin Warsh. Now, since it is resolved, we are seeing that process move forward. And it seems like the reviews of Kevin Warsh almost universally strong. I wonder what you think about all of that and how a different Fed chair could impact the U.S. economy and U.S. policy. Well, first of all, a word on Jerome Powell. I agree with you. I don't think he was involved in criminal activity, but the man is simply incompetent. And he was a terrible Fed share. He was the one who allowed the inflation rate to go up to the highest level since the 1970s when Biden was president. And he was political. He was overtfully political. And look, there's this personal feud between Jerome Powell and Trump. Now, Paul is saying, well, maybe I'll stay on as a member of the Federal Reserve Board, which I think would be very small of him. But, you know, he does anything he can to get under Trump's skin. But let's talk beyond him because we do have, you know, it is almost certain now that Kevin Warsh will be confirmed. I'll be very interested, Guy, by the way, how many Democrats vote for him.

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in the Senate because there's no reason not to vote for him. In other words, he is highly qualified, probably the most qualified person to head the Fed since Allen Greenspan. So the only reason the Democrats would vote against them is just they hate Trump, right? Or because their base expects them to say no to Trump no matter. And qualifications and governance certainly don't matter. I think you're making good point. There are Democrats who think, oh, that Kevin Warsh will simply do what Trump wants. He will not. I mean, I've known Kevin for years. Or they might think, and I mean, that is true. I think the other thing is they might be thinking to themselves, well, this guy's obviously qualified. And even a few years ago, I would have definitely voted for him. But right now, in our political moment, I'll get crucified if I say yes to anything, Trump. And it doesn't matter the qualifications and the governance. It doesn't matter, which is not responsible governance, but it's, you know, resistance governments, which is what I think a lot of their voters. want, you know, angrily demand, in fact. Right. They want chaos. They want chaos and they don't want anything to work. They want to have strife and disruption. And shutdowns? And that's pretty low of them as well. But I'm very, very happy. I'm hearing to tell you, I'm very happy about Kevin Warsh coming in. He's a real professional. And, you know, now, by the way, Trump wants a rate cut. And I think Kevin Warsh may not give it to it. You know, and I'm not a big fan. I know people on our side. as conservatives have different opinions about the rate cut, I'm on the side of, well, let's let's not let, you know, let's not let inflation get out of control here. So it's, it's, he may, his first decision may not be a decision that Trump likes, but we'll see. Rate cuts, gas prices, red lines with Iran, all sorts of things happening, job reports, very important conversation with Steve Moore, an economist, co-founder of Unleashed Prosperity here on Guy Benson. Steve, thanks. Thank you, guys. A big political night in the Hoosier state. We'll explain after this. Same issues, but with a fresh perspective. Guy Benson. I'm Guy Benson. We're back. Some primary election results from yesterday that I want to address here briefly. Quickly first in Ohio, the Buckeye State, the Republican nominee for governor is Vivek Ramaswamy, the entrepreneur and businessman who, of course, ran for president. And now he is going to be the Republican nominee for governor. And I like a lot of what Vivek Ramaswamy has had to say. I disagree with him on a number of things. He... can be a little annoying on certain things as well. Just being perfectly honest, in my opinion. However, I think that he ran a strong campaign in a lot of ways and talked about American pluralism in a way that was really important and eloquent, especially when faced with a primary opponent who was just overtly appealing to racism. I know racism and that claim gets thrown around a lot.

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promiscuously and unfairly, especially by the left. But one of these candidates, we're seeing it from another guy with no chance who's like basically a rounding error in the polling down in Florida as well, just leaning into sort of like the hardcore, whether you call it woke right, griperism, whatever you want to say. nativism, racism, just basically coming after Vivek Ramaswamy saying, well, we don't want a guy who looks like that with that background, with that name, with that family representing us. It was not subtle at all. And there was a big question about, you know, how will Republican voters respond to a lot of that? And there was a lot of attention paid to this other guy by the news media. And then the Republican electorate had its say, and it was an absolute blowout for Vivek Ramaswamy. Last I saw he won like 83% of the vote. Crushed him. So given the alternative, that is great news. And I'm sure at some point in the coming months we'll have Vivek Ramaswamy back on the show to talk about his campaign because the Democrats are going to try to make a surge in a comeback in Ohio. They're trying. They feel like this is maybe a cycle to do it in the Senate. At the governor level, some of the polling shows that some of this stuff could be competitive. So we will certainly be on it here on Guy Benson. But that's just something I wanted to acknowledge and talk about. Then there's Indiana. Now, we've talked a lot about redistricting and gerrymandering and all of that. And I was among the conservative commentators not going after. The Senate in the state of Indiana where Republicans, many of them, joined with Democrats to shut down a redistricting map that would have added, I believe, two Republican seats to the U.S. House of Representatives. Trump was asking various red states to do this. Part of his rationale is the census screw up of 2020, which remains an outrage and unfair. And I think in its own way, a threat to our democracy. Trump was trying to write that wrong. I get it. And therefore, we got what we saw in Texas and then the retaliation from Democrats in California. Indiana was under pressure to do this. Governor Braun wanted to do it. But Senate Republicans in Indianapolis said no. We're not doing this mid-decade. We want to stick to the norms. And they were under huge pressure from the White House, but they said no. And they were sticking to an agreement they had with Maryland with Democrats there not to do it. Now, that infuriated Team Trump. They said we're going to come in. Maga World, we're going to primary these guys. And we're going to vote them out. And last night in the primaries, that's exactly what happened. Five incumbent state senators were defeated by Trump-backed challengers. Five. And it could be a sixth. That one is too close to call. It's a very, very tight race. We'll see where that one goes. It could go either way. But it could be up to six state senators sent packing. One. My understanding is one survived by a fair margin, actually. But this was a message sent by a lot of Republican voters with the backing of the president's political machine and megaphone. That was a red line for a lot of Republican voters. And I don't necessarily in a vacuum think that's a good thing. I would like to see a mutual.

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de-escalation on some of this stuff. I'd love to see a system that Virginia used to have before the power grab that Democrats have attempted in Virginia. And we'll see if they get away with it, depending on what the state Supreme Court decides in the next couple days or weeks, more to come, by the way, out of Virginia later this hour. Very interesting wrinkle to bring to your attention. But I think Democrats doing what they did in Virginia, which I called out as a hardcore FU. double middle finger escalation. I think that then created a situation in the minds of many Republican voters who might have been willing to be on the fence or not really sure about this redistricting push and exacting political punishment on the state senators Indiana. If there was any doubt, I think what happened in Virginia. was a radicalizing event for a lot of Republicans saying, okay, the other side is playing for keeps. They are playing absolute hardball. And if we don't do that, then we're suckers. So they didn't do what Trump wanted. It turns out based on the Democrats' behavior, Trump was right, and now we're going to replace those Republicans. Do I think this is like a great, healthy thing in every way? No. Do I think that's an understandable result, especially given what's happened in Virginia? Yeah, I get it. And that is now a message loud and clear, I think, to other Republicans. So the redistricting wars are hardly over. Democrats are saying, we finish it. No, they didn't. This story is still being written. We'll be right back.

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Guy Benson, sponsored by Previgin. Previgin, made for your brain. Halfway through the broadcast week on Guy Benson on this Wednesday, we're live in New York. Thank you for being with us. Guy Benson.com, podcast always free. And the fact that we are doing the show here from New York is an opportunity, not that we need one. Not that we have to be here. But it is an opportunity to talk about the mayor of this city, Zohran Mamdani. I know he was again expressing shock and horror and all the words about yet another anti-Semitic incident, perpetrated almost undoubtedly by his crowd, his supporters, his people. Some people joking, where was his wife when this happened? And it's a dark joke, unfortunately, because of her online presence. We've talked about that. Then there was a violent, angry protest outside a synagogue here in the city. Is that last night or the night before with would-be rioters trying to break through police lines? There is a preschool in that synagogue that had to let out early because they were worried about the safety of the kids because of a bunch of people, many of them wearing masks, there to do all their intifada chanting. I saw there as a Hezbollah flag being flown at that rally. They are hate rallies. That's what they are. That's a designated terrorist organization, Hezbollah. Their flag flying in the streets of this city. Appropriate enough given who the mayor in this city is, unfortunately. So there was on Tax Day, we talked about this, the video that Zohran Mamdani put out, his team was very excited. They bragged this was their highest watched video, you know, biggest view count ever. At least that's what one of his people they were claiming. We also learned, by the way, that his videographer during the campaign, big, big Hamas fan. As I've said before, it's like, I'd like to find the people in his orbit at the highest levels that aren't, that aren't willing to at least justify October 7th and use every opportunity to attack the Jewish state, et cetera, et cetera. But... On that tax day video release, Zohran Mamdani didn't just do his normal song and dance against the rich and the billionaires and the millionaires and all the things that socialists and communists always do. He did a video, the backdrop of which was the House of Ken Griffin, Penn House. He was billionaire who left Illinois and Chicago for these reasons and mostly moved to Florida. Still has a lot of investments upcoming in New York. And Zohran Mamdani, the mayor, went to target him specifically and badmouthed him in the video. And like, it's not fair that this guy is this place and we're going to tax. Griffin already spends oodles of money in New York City on taxes. Oodles. But it's not enough. It's never enough for people like Sarah and Zohran Mamdani. So he went to polarize and personalize it and demonize Ken Griffin outside his house. Private citizen. Public official doing that to a private citizen who's responsible for so much income and revenue and investment and donations, by the way. This guy is a prodigious humanitarian.

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who does a lot of charitable work. He's donated. He's got his name on like a kids hospital, which, by the way, was also picketed by the pro-Hamas crowd. At one point, they were chanting shame at a children's cancer hospital. That is how demented they are. They don't like some of the donors. But this guy is a huge philanthropist here on top of everything else. But that didn't matter to Zohran Mamdani. He wanted to go. and attack him publicly, and that's what he did. And then a lot of people were waiting for the response from Ken Griffin himself, because there was an internal memo that was circulated. We talked about that. Well, at a conference out in Los Angeles, the Milken conference, Griffin did have some things to say about the video and the policies and the mayor and all of that. Cut 12. It was creepy and weird. Agree. I mean, like, knock, knock, knock on the window. Like, huh? Mayor of New York City. Oh, knock on the screen, yeah. Yeah, on the screen. Like, how many times have you watched that video? Three. Like, you literally look at the first time, you're like, you got to be kidding me. Okay? And then the second time, you're like, you know what, this is actually, this has gone from creepy to actually not really creepy. This has gone frightening. Because, you know, the CEO of United Healthcare was killed just a few blocks from my house. And anything that creates like an agitation in the extremist on either side of the aisle is a frightening dynamic. I mean, you know, if we look at what happened in D.C. And he'll continue that thought in a second. There was the United Healthcare reference. That CEO, Brian Thompson, gunned down by one of these hardcore leftists in the streets celebrated by a lot of people on the left. Celebrated. A precursor to the celebrations about Charlie Kirk being assassinated by a hardcore radicalized leftist. And we've just learned recently that the Palisades fires out in California in Southern California early last year were set by an acolyte, a fanboy of the accused murderer of Brian Thompson. We've got a real problem on our hands. These radicalized, mostly young male leftists. Okay, I digress. Back to this conversation on stage at the conference in L.A. Sarah Eisen from CNBC being like, okay, so it's a creepy and weird video. That's the mayor of New York. Are you going to leave? Listen to cut 13. You're bailing? So what do we do at 350s is still a point of discussion internally, but what is no longer a point of discussion is that Miami is now, you know, when we moved from Chicago, there was a debate between New York and Miami. It's unquestionably true that we made the right choice. I'll leave it at that. It's unquestionably true that we made the right choice. And now what the mayor of New York has made clear to my partners, and principally my New York partners, is that we need to double down on our bet in Miami. Aha. He's like, I was leaving Chicago in Illinois because of all this treatment. And we were debating New York and Miami. They chose mostly Miami. And then here's the mayor of New York confirming correct choice, Ken. Congratulations. Now, he's talking about 350. That's a reference to a huge investment project that he still has active in New York. He said, what we do with that is still a point of discussion internally. So there is a chance that goes away. What an absolute moron this mayor is.

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I know he grins and has his very smooth talking points and makes his little videos and a lot of the people click on it and makes him feel good because he's sticking it to the man. And when it comes to actual policy, it's a catastrophe. As dumb Kathy Hochul has slowly belatedly finally learned from her own terrible policies, she's trying to get people like Ken Griffin back. And Zohran Mamdani is actively chasing the way on purpose. Finally, from Ken Griffin, cut 14. We want to be in a state that embraces business, that embraces education, that embraces personal freedom and liberty, and that embraces people having an opportunity to live the American dream. That would not be New York and certainly not New York City. Not embracing business, not embracing meaningful, successful education, not embracing personal freedom in so many ways. And not embracing the American dream, something that Zohran Mamdani doesn't seem to believe in or hold dear, even though he's an immigrant in a very rich family who've been given so much in this country. He wanted Bernie Sanders to be president a few cycles ago. He couldn't vote for Bernie Sanders because he wasn't even a citizen yet. Now he's running this city and is chasing away people like Ken Griffin on purpose because he thinks it's good politics. I'm not sure ultimately it's good politics. It did help him get elected, although he made a bunch of promises that he's not going to be able to keep. They were just impossible fairy tale promises. And as those failures pile up and those broken promises amass, I think you'll probably see a lot more of him doing his sound and fury about Israel than the Jewish state. While then, of course, intoning how disappointed and shocked he is when the latest anti-Semitic thing happens in his city. But Ken Griffin, he and his New York team, they're like, yeah. We see all of this. We will discuss what we're going to do about the current investment. But overall, long term, we are doubling down on Miami and Florida because we want to be a place that wants us and that doesn't hate us. And the mayor here hates them. And basically doubled down on that principle in his response earlier today. So that's the correct call by Ken Griffin. Nice work. Zohran Mamdani. Slow clap, bud. You're listening to a new generation of talk, Guy Benson. We are back on Guy Benson. Some interesting news out of Virginia politics again. We were talking about Virginia and holding our breath on the Virginia Supreme Court decision and some reporting coming out among Democrats that there's infighting and finger pointing and a lot of tension because apparently Governor Abigail Spanberger's people, they were warning. We shouldn't do the gerrymandering referendum this way. It won't pass legal muster, and they were strong-armed into it anyway by the legislature and the leaders in the legislature, these far-left people in Richmond, one of whom Senator Louise Lucas, who's the leader of the state Senate.

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and is like this real big mouth obnoxious left-wing Democrat who bullies the governor, Governor Abigail Spanberger on a regular basis, seems to have bullied her into taking the plunge on this gerrymandering misadventure that might still get thrown out potentially by the Virginia Supreme Court. And the Democrats very, very nervous about that and blaming each other potentially as these precriminations, as I call them, are playing out. It's not much of a secret at this point that Lucas, Senator Lucas, does not think much of Governor Abigail Spanberger and has basically appointed herself as the leader of Virginia. And she's kind of boasting that she will do whatever she wants and the governor will go along with her or else. That's been her posture. She does it extremely disrespectfully. She even called the two U.S. senators from her state, both Democrats. She called them cucks. Because they were not sure about the 10 to 1 map that she was pushing. She told them to basically sit down in the cuck chair, quote, and shut up and let her do her thing. That's the type of gem that we're talking about here in Senator Louise Lucas. Well, today the FBI raided her offices and apparently other locations related to this hemp and weed business that she's involved in, multiple raids at multiple locations targeting her. Fox News on the scene covering this from the very beginning. And unsurprisingly, many Democrats are immediately rushing to call this politicized and saying, oh, this is the thuggish, Trump, corrupt DOJ punishing Louise Lucas, pristine Louise Lucas. because she was the driving force behind the redistricting. So this is vengeance. This is political retribution that the Trump people cooked up. And from what I have heard, and I don't want to say too much, and there are certain things that are set off the record, so I can't repeat them to you. But from what I have heard, I think all of these Democrats would be very wise in this circumstance to keep their powder dry and maybe keep their mouths shut. Because some of the takes, the hot, hot takes are not going to age well. I would submit to you on this one. The House Speaker, Don Scott, also a Democrat. He put out a furious statement filled with exclamation points going after the FBI and the Trump administration and Kash Patel and Donald Trump and all these things. By the way, parenthetical, that House Speaker in Richmond. is a convicted crack dealer. It's a story of redemption. We do believe in redemption. I do wonder how redeemed he will look in the full scheme of things at some point. I guess we'll see. But he's hopping mad, other Democrats jumping on the bandwagon. A lot of journalists, of course, doing the same because journalists are hardcore Democrats. So the conclusion being leapt to, if you will, by a lot of journals is, here we go again, politicized justice from Trump. That was the instant instinct from so many of them. And I will say, as an aside, there have been examples of that on, for example, Jerome Powell, that BS investigation.

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James Comey, former FBI director, I think this latest indictment is preposterous. And I say that as not a fan at all, to put it mildly, of James Comey. So there have been examples of Trump and his team doing unto others what they did unto Trump and company. And there has been this sort of dueling weaponization back and forth, which I'm not a fan of. I am just here to say based on what I've heard from someone that I trust, this is not going to fall into that category. And as the information and evidence comes out against sweet Ms. Lucas, it's going to look worse and worse for her and the people rushing to her defense. By the way, she did tweet, shock of all shocks, after the Mar-a-Lago raid against Trump. She tweeted gleefully about that, making fun of it, talking about how much she loved it. So people are resurfacing that tweet like, oh, isn't that interesting? I think this is more a situation of that looking ironic in retrospect rather than this being a cause and effect. I guess we'll see. I would just say stay tuned for the evidence on this one. But we already are getting a little indication that maybe the narrative that we got immediately is not going to work out, which doesn't mean they're not going to keep trying. She's a woman and she's black. So you can guess how some of this. will be attacked and demonized and demagogued. She herself is absolutely shameless. So brace for whatever she's going to do in response to all of this. However, the New York Times has reported because people were mad that Fox News had the scoop. How was Fox there so quickly? How were they on the scene? sources. I know. Well, I know journalists, it's really hard to understand. They're bewildered. They're indignant that Fox News has sources that might have given some of our people information, which helped us report news. I know you only feel like that's something you're allowed to do against the people that you dislike because that's journalism. But if Fox does it and someone's under investigation that you do like based on your tribe, well, that's got to be some sort of sinister cabal and collusion. I seem to recall one of our rival networks being at the Roger Stone raid. That was good, though. That was journalism. This so very troubling, very troubling, they say. Uh-huh. Well, the New York Times is reporting that this investigation into Louise Lucas and Bill Malugian, our colleague here at Fox, has now confirmed this from his sources. I know. Sources. Sorry, it's very confusing to some of these journalists. Very confusing. But Bill Malugian's sources confirming the New York Times reporting from their sources.

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that the investigation, the federal investigation into Louise Lucas involving potentially some of the businesses that she's involved in and criminality there and corruption began under the, uh, drum roll please, Biden administration. Oh, sorry everyone. It wasn't Trump ordering Kash Patel and Todd Blanche to do some political dirty work because he's mad for political reasons. This. reportedly from the New York Times started under the last administration, which was run by members of Louise Lucas's political party. So maybe just maybe what I've heard is much more true than the knee-jerk partisan reaction that we've gotten from not just Democrats, which you expect, but also their handmaidens in the so-called news media. So we'll see how this all goes for Louise. Sweet, lovely, genteel, classy Louise. I say again, stay tuned for that. And stay tuned for the final hour of Guy Benson up next. Rich Scioli is with us. Some big, big stories out of the most important, arguably, swing state in the country. Let's talk Pennsylvania politics and how it applies to the national scene. Might Republicans be wooing John Fetterman to join the GOP? What about the governor's presidential ambitions? We'll get to all of that coming up in our final hour straight ahead.

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So if you go back to when he was running statewide, and he's run statewide a few times, but go back to when Bernie Sanders was running for president, John Fetterman was the chairman in Pennsylvania for his campaign. Then he said he would be the Bernie Sanders of Pennsylvania. He was always to the left of the governor when he was lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania. And then he had a stroke. And... To listen to Senator Dave McCormick tell it, the Republican, of course, his good friend, John Fetterman had a life and near-death experience. And that opened his eyes and changed his thinking on things. And he just stopped caring about trying to please people and make people happy. Now, does that mean that everything that happened before that was an act? He was saying these things because he thought that's what he had to do to get elected. I personally think John Fetterman is a very smart, pragmatic politician who sees Pennsylvania for what it is, which is it's much more of a red state than a blue state. It's a state that Donald Trump won twice. It's a state that Donald Trump did very, very well this last election in, speaking to the voters that John Fetterman was directly speaking to, union workers and blue-collar workers, and Trump won those voters. And I also think that John Fetterman is smart enough to realize that that's the way his state is going to go. The problem is... If you didn't have a governor who wanted to run for president, he would have an ally in the Democrat governor who also at one point said he was a moderate and ran as a moderate. But now Josh Shapiro has presidential ambitions, and he knows to get through the primary outside of Pennsylvania, but also in Pennsylvania as well. For the 28 nomination, he's got to go to the left. So he's coming out against John Fetterman. So John Fetterman is basically on an island all by himself. He doesn't even have any allies whatsoever who are Democrats. They're all Republicans. So the effort to recruit him to be a Republican is interesting because if you look at his voting record guy, as you know, I mean, the political analyst that you are for Fox News, I mean, he still votes like a Democrat. That's the thing. So like 90 plus percent of the time he's voting with his party, he will occasionally buck them, especially on nominations. because he feels like the president should have the prerogative by and large to pick his people that is not a crazy position it was in fact The widely held position in the U.S. Senate for a very long time until quite recently, actually. He's also voted to end these Democrat shutdowns, the government shutdowns, because his position was, I'm always going to vote against shutdowns. Again, nothing crazy there. He will say some sensible things on immigration, although he's hardly a conservative fully on that issue. He will talk about not demonizing the president. Of course, Israel being a big one, as I mentioned.

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That 90 plus percent voting record with the Dems, to me, that is a big question mark, both in terms of these recruitment efforts, but also in terms of where the Democrats sort of come at him because there are people lining up. to oppose him in a primary, basically saying that he's lost his way. He's become a Republican. He's on Fox News all the time. We've got to get rid of him. And then you look at how he actually votes. It's like, well, it actually doesn't align with this caricature that you've now created of this man. I see a lot of them now making stroke jokes that they used to tuttut about if it were people on the right making them. Now they feel like it's fair game because of political disagreements. So he's just sort of... sitting there you've got people who want to challenge him in his primary and he's not up for a couple years here so he's got time to figure out what happens next but on these recruitment efforts and there was some reporting on this in politico the quiet republican effort to flip John Fetterman and rumors about president trump getting involved in lots of different offers what i'm trying to figure out is like I can see, and maybe I'm wrong about this, I can see John Fetterman maybe recognizing that he doesn't have a future in the Democratic Party, which is, I think, much more of a reflection on the party than it is on him given just, let's say the last 50 years of democratic politics and the moment that we're in right now. But if he says, all right. The polling shows that I'm dead in the water as a Democrat moving forward. They will not renominate me. They are out to get me. They want to crush me. I can't get renominated as the incumbent sitting senator who votes with them 90 plus percent of the time. Maybe it's time to become an independent and to run as an independent. They'll field their candidate on the Democratic side. The Republicans will have their person. All be somewhere in the middle and people know me. And his overall approval in the state is pretty strong, although it's terrible among Democrats. It's all this sort of upside down thing. Is that a viable path? Because I just struggle to see him as a Republican. He really isn't. He's not a conservative. He's a little bit more sensible than most Democrats these days, which does not put you on the right, per se, even though you might get demonized that way. I'm just not sure if it is plausible, realistic for him to flip all the way over to Team Red. Might he end up with an eye next to his name rather than an R or a D? I think he'd be better off running as an independent. And I think he would do better as an independent than as a Republican. There's blood in the water for him. And there was a time when you could get elected as a statewide Democrat being on a more conservative on issues, which again, John Fetterman is not. But I mean, Bob Casey was the governor of Pennsylvania for many, many years. Bob Casey Sr. Senior, you know, KCV Planned Parenthood. I mean, there was a time when Pennsylvania Democrats were able to win their primary by being.

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more conservative. That time is long gone. I think it's long gone everywhere in the Democrat Party. I think you and I would both agree on that point. Now it is the far left who controls the party and they're the ones coming out in the primary process. So there's a congressman named Connor Lamb, who also at one point, by the way, pretended like he was a moderate. Yeah, he was one of the blue dog moderate Democrats and the whole left wing turned against him in favor of John Fetterman because they wanted to go with their true left wing progressive in their minds, John Fetterman. Connor Lamb was kind of. of like this normal seeming, normal presenting Democrat. And they said, no, you're a shill, you're a neolib, all these things. And now, like, actually, never mind, you're promising to be much more left wing. And we hate this other guy now. So the John Fetterman fans are becoming Connor Lamb fans. It's crazy. It really is. It's something you can't make up. It's like a bad political comedy to think that they went with John Fetterman because he was further to the left than Connor Lamb. And Connor Lamb's whole point was a guy like John Fetterman can't win statewide because he's too far to the left. And now I'm going to beat him in a primary because I'm the actual far left candidate and he's not and he can't win statewide because he's too moderate. I mean, it's just it shows you how bizarre the Democrat Party really is. And so Josh Shapiro, I think it was the other night, said to some. on CNN. I forget who. It might have been Jake Tapper, you know, to John Fetterman. His message was just act like the Democrat that you are and that you ran on and that you were elected as. And my question for the governor is, well, define that governor. What does that mean? Because it means a lot of different things if you watch the politics across this country. But at one point, being a Democrat, like... You meant standing with Israel, meant saying that anti-Semitism was bad, meant saying that the anti-Semitic folks burned his house down. Right. I mean, the governor's mansion was almost burned to the ground by an anti-Semitic. So, you know, if you want to talk about the rise of political violence, I actually don't put it in that category. I put that particular incident in the anti-Semitic category. Oh, that was intifada. I mean, I think it was probably a left-wing, intifada, political violence, anti-Semitic. amalgam of motives there. And it's not me making that up. This is based on the statements of that perpetrator. But you're talking about Governor Josh Shapiro. And I think let's turn our attention more to him because I think this is also relevant to a national audience. He's someone who's going to want to claim the mantle of the more kind of sensible mainstream, still progressive, but not too progressive, Democrat who talks a very good game and can get elected. nationwide. That's going to be the lane that I think he tries to sort of open for himself in a presidential campaign in 2028. He wants to also understand. and therefore achieve this appeasement of the far left base. He's never going to win them, frankly, because he's Jewish in some cases, because he is a Zionist, a dreaded Zionist. There's an element of the far left that will never, ever accept him. But he needs to win over enough of the left to say, no, really, truly, I am one of you. He wants to win his reelection bid this year by a big number, although he has a far less flawed.

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candidate this time against him on the republican side that's something i'd love for you to comment on but i'm wondering this potential behind the scenes feud that he's got with John Fetterman How much of that could be a grudge? Because I've heard rumors that John Fetterman was telling people close to Kamala Harris that Josh Shapiro is very ambitious and sort of a shark and would try to outshine her on the ticket. Is that something you've also heard? And if so, is that something where Josh Shapiro's like, oh, I'm going to turn right back around with my knife and plunge it into John Fetterman. If he did me dirty that way, we've got bad blood and I'm going to do something about it. Are these things intersecting? No doubt about it. Absolutely. There's a lot of personal history between these two guys for a long, long time. And that aspect of it is true. But let's also think about the fact that for Josh Shapiro, this is an opportunity for him to win over some of those people on the left who otherwise would never like him and would not. you know, support him in any way. Just be like, I also hate John Fetterman. Yeah, it's like, I'm like, like, look at me. I'm standing up against ICE detention centers in Pennsylvania. So like me there. I'm standing up against John Fetterman. So like me there. I'm telling President Trump, stay out of my, my state. Stay out of my commonwealth. So, so please like me there. And, and, and I'm saying that the president, you know, has abused his authority and, and all these other things. So, so look, you know, I'm, I'm more like you than, than you think I am, which is what he has. to do if he's going to even make it out of some of the early primary states. I mean, he's got to, the moderate lane is fine if you're in a general election. In fact, that's what I would think is the only pathway a Democrat has in the general election. But to survive that, when we're talking about this all happening very, very quickly once we get past midterm elections, and you're on the road in South Carolina, you're on the road in Iowa, he's got to try to find some commonality with these people. And at least. to be able to hang in there long enough to watch other candidates drop out, which I think is his strategy. You know, it's, it's, I have the money. I've got the name recognition. I can survive long enough to get into the top few. And then maybe I can box out the others by having this moderate lane, quote unquote moderate lane all to myself. Yeah, but you also look at the record increasingly less and less moderate. He wants to talk. the moderate game like Abigail Spanberger and then govern differently so there's there's a warning sign here there's a cautionary tale in Virginia, and I think very much keep an eye on Pennsylvania along the same lines. And because Josh Shapiro, I think, is going to be in the conversation here for the next several years at a national level. There's another interesting side drama that I want to ask you about, Rich. As soon as we come back, we're talking Pennsylvania politics, crucial Pennsylvania, on Guy Benson with Rich Scioli, more of the happy hour up next. In the swamp, not of the swamp. Guy Benson.

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It's Guy Benson Happy Hour. In Focus, Pennsylvania, our guest, Rich Zioly, is with us, Rich. There's also this grudge politics streak that I want to explore a little bit further. You talk about the history between him and John Fetterman. There's a story that's come out just recently that Josh Shapiro was actually undermining one of the people on his own party's statewide ticket. because he had some sort of personal beef with this person over politics. And so he was secretly, subtly boosting. Josh Shapiro was the Republican in that race. Is that vindictiveness? Is that ruthlessness? Is it even true from what you've heard? Everybody who knows Josh Shapiro knows that Josh Shapiro is an incredibly ambitious guy because you wouldn't become governor and he's a young guy. And, you know, he's there. This is his second time running statewide. I mean, he was the attorney general for Pennsylvania. So he's definitely ambitious. And it would not surprise me in the least. Apparently there's this audio recording, you know, of the remarks of the Democrat who said this. to college students saying this, Bob Brooks, who said this, said, you know, look, Josh Shapiro's backing me for the House, but, you know, I have to tell you, it really is a situation here where he's really undermining me. And then that's crazy again, because Aaron McClellan has questioned whether Josh Shapiro could be a subordinate to a female president. Brooks is the president of the Pennsylvania Firefighters Union and told students at a college. that Josh Shapiro had asked his union to back Stacey Garrity over McClellan in the 2024 state treasurer's race. Now, I know this guy personally. Garrity's the Republican. Right. And I know the guy who we're talking about here who runs the Firefighters Union, Brooks. What I can tell you is he's told me that this is true. You know, this is this is a true story. And it's very much about Josh Shapiro taking people off the board. who will not be helpful to Josh Shapiro when he runs for president. Even if they're in his own party and on his state's ticket, he's willing apparently to do that. Very interesting, a character to keep an eye on in national politics, Josh Shapiro, the Pennsylvania governor. He's got his reelection bid this coming November. Very quickly, Rich, just mentioning it, there's this far left congressional candidate in Pennsylvania who pushed an insane anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. about the jihadist attack against Jews in Australia. That's one of the leading candidates in Pennsylvania in the House race. There's also another fringe candidate who was just arrested for making violent threats against Republicans. So a lot going on in PA politics, and it is arguably the most important swing state in the country. So we wanted a big update there with the help of Rich Zioly. Rich, thank you so much. Guy, thanks for having me, my friend. We'll be back. We'll talk again soon and we'll be right back.

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Talking about the issues you care about, Guy Benson. In our first hour today opening the show, I played some sound bites from last night's gubernatorial debate out in California. We were just talking about cautionary tales on the East Coast. Talk about red flags of governance. They are flapping everywhere in California. Let's talk about that debate last night. Let's listen to part of my opening monologue, if you miss it. So they have these sort of wild... debates and candidate forums out there because there isn't a Democratic primary debate or a Republican primary debate where people on each side dispute and squabble amongst themselves and make the case to be the party nominee. That's not how their system works. Instead, you have just kind of like this. almost unwieldy at times, free-flowing debate across party lines. We have a bunch of Democrats and two Republicans on stage, and they're all going at each other and jockeying for position and advantage in different ways. It's kind of a fascinating thing. And there were a few statements that were made last night on stage that I think merit some attention. Just because California politics are significant, especially because the Democrats' last presidential nominee came out of California and currently the top two front runners for president in 2028, at least at the moment, I'm not convinced it will stay this way, but in many of the polls, the top two candidates are both Californians. So we ignore what's happening out there at our peril, and we're not going to do that. And we also have lots of listeners out in the state of California. So where to begin? How about here? I want to start with something that I appreciated. Steve Hilton, who used to host a weekend show here at Fox, he's an immigrant from the United Kingdom. He's running as a Republican for governor in California. He was asked a question about immigration, and I thought he gave a terrific answer using his own immigrant experience to underpin the answer. Cut 24, listen here. Mr. Hilton, right now, President Trump is enacting a policy of mass deportation. As you know, roughly half of California farm workers, which are an essential part of this state's economy, are undocumented. As governor, would you push to deport them? So I'm the only immigrant on stage. I'm a legal immigrant, and Americans support immigration when it is properly controlled. And what we saw under the Biden... administration, open borders, undermined everybody's support for immigration. And as governor, I've made it very clear. Although it is the federal government's responsibility to determine and implement immigration policy, I think it's important that all the laws are peacefully enforced. And as governor, I would make sure that we work with the federal government to enforce our laws. Now, I think to the average American, that is a terrific answer from Steve Hilton. To the type of voter that dominates California politics, I'm not sure. They would accuse him, certainly the left-wing voters, of being anti-immigrant, even though he is one. Because they conflate all the time legal and illegal immigration and immigrants, which is not fair to the legal immigrants who go through quite a process.

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laborious, lengthy, expensive to become legally part of the American family, or at least to be here in accordance with our laws. You spit on that when you simply erase the line between legal and illegal, which he refuses to do there, obviously. He said, I am an immigrant, the only one on stage. I came here legally, and I think that we should enforce our laws peacefully and that we should not. go out of our way to resist the federal government. We should cooperate with the federal government when it comes to enforcing law. That is the mainstream position in the United States of America, but definitely not in democratic politics and maybe not in deep blue states like California. But I still like the way that he framed that. Meanwhile, on the other side of these questions, you had this pose to Katie Porter. right, who was a congresswoman in California, has gotten into some hot water for various reasons, including for pouring hot potatoes on her ex-husband on purpose and berating and abusing staffers and all this sort of thing. She's apparently really quite something, a terror to be around and to work for. And we'll come back to that. But she was asked a question about health care, taxpayer-funded health care for illegal immigrants. Listen to the question, then the answer, starting in cut 19. Then there's another one. Congresswoman Katie Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding health care for undocumented immigrants statewide? Yes. Yes. And that's, by the way, what I think Californians deserve as answers to these questions. Californians deserve. a regime in which illegal immigrants get taxpayer-funded health care benefits and plans. It was just a straight yes. And by the way, that isn't a controversial position at all in Democrat circles, certainly in California. Not even really nationally anymore, but especially in California, where actually under Gavin Newsom, they moved to cover virtually all illegal immigrants with taxpayer-funded health plans. Now, the problem is, The math doesn't work. And Medi-Cal, which is their state system, has run out of money. The spending has exploded. They cannot afford to cover the citizens, let alone all the non-citizens, including all these illegal immigrants. The math doesn't work. And so even Gavin Newsom, who wants desperately to be beloved by his left-wing base, which is why he helped lead the drive to get that policy implemented in the first place, he's had to curtail it at the margins at least because the math is so disastrous. I think it's just wrong, period, to force taxpayers to give health plans to people who have come into the country illegally. But Katie Porter, full stop, the answer is yes. It is what Californians deserve that entire monologue and all of today's show, available online as always, part of our podcast, Guy Benson.com, Fox Newspodcast.com, or wherever you get your podcast, it's free, it's on demand, every single day.

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When we come back to home stretch, hypochondriac Christine is terrified of a new disease. I'll tell you about that. Miss a minute. Miss a lot. Guy Benson. it's time for your favorite segment of the day. Home stretch. It's basically the only segment I'm on, so I've declared it the audience's favorite segment. Guy Benson. Home Stretch on Guy Benson, New York City, Wednesday. Thank you very much for being with us, Guy Benson.com. Podcasts always free. Well, in yesterday's home stretch. I just made mention of the topic we're going to address here. Christine admitted to this for some reason. She just confesses things. Just blurts them out and they become home stretches. Christine, you had become aware of a phenomenon in showbiz. And it seems you misunderstood what the meaning of a certain term was. Can you walk us through this, please? So apparently there is something called blue dot fever. And Dylan will explain exactly what that is because I probably just botched that explanation up. But. What happened was I was only seeing headlines of another celebrity falls to blue dot fever. Okay, so before we get then to the punchline, which is real, Dylan, please enlighten the audience, for those who don't know, what is blue dot fever? So blue dot fever is basically where an artist will come down with a mysterious illness that forces them to cancel a show. But really what it most likely is is they didn't sell enough tickets. And it's called Blue Dot Fever because when you look at like Stubhub or another one of these ticket selling apps, an available seat where nobody is sitting is represented usually by a blue dot. Right. So it's these people, they're mysteriously having to call off shows, but they also happen to have horrible ticket sales. Ah, so it's like kind of a little. Ghost illness as the face-saving situation. That's the maneuver to make it seem like, oh, no, we're going to have a great show, but we just couldn't do it because of this fill in the blank. And that's being called Blue Dot Fever. Got it. So, Christine, you saw this, you saw these headlines and you didn't really read, it seems, at all the stories. You just read the headlines and immediately began to panic because panic is what you do. I thought this was like one of those like cruise ship, you know, disasters where everybody gets like the stomach. Like neurovirus? Yeah, I thought everybody, all these people were coming down with some illness. Now, to be fair, the reason in the back of my mind, I thought that was they just had out in California, oh, what's that festival everybody loves? Coachella. Coachella. What?

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So you thought blue dot fever was going around Coachella? Yeah, and then stagecoach. A couple, like a week or two later. So I thought maybe there was some like mysterious illness and that all these people were actually sick with something called blue dot fever. So you were worried that you were going to contract? Blue Dot fever. Well, I was just worried in general, you know, for these stars. I was like, God, they're going down quickly, all of them. When did you realize that this is not what was happening? Did you actually finally read one of the stories? That's exactly what happened. I decided, you know what? Oh, no, no, no. He's going to read another sentence. No, no, I did not, actually. Oh. No. Okay. I googled symptoms of blue dot fever. Symptoms? Mm-hmm. Wow. I wanted to know what it was and how bad. I was sick. Someone could get, oh, my goodness. Ugh. And then I assume AI then informed you. Uh-huh. It's not actually a physical ailment. It's an excuse to cancel a show. Correct. And what happened is, I'm not sure I probably would have admitted this, but what happened was we were just about to start our FaceTime call meeting and Dylan was on. And I was like, right, Dylan, you heard it in live. I heard it live. She was like, oh, she's like, oh my gosh, I thought that was real. And then she had to explain to me exactly. what she had come upon. I was like, thinking, oh, these people are really sick. Oh, no. And some of the artists were fairly big names, but apparently not big enough names, or maybe they've selected venues that are maybe too big, or they're charging too much money, and therefore this happens, right? There are some artists who can just go and get the biggest stadium in the world and charge whatever they want, and it will fill, right? There's a certain level of celebrity fame and fandom. for whom that's true. But that's not all of them. And I think some of them get convinced that they can do the Taylor Swift thing when maybe they can't. They could sell out a decent sized venue, but not the way they thought they could or their publicists thought. Yeah, I mean, we're talking post Malone, jelly roll. I saw Megan Trainor. Megan Traynor, the pussycat dolls. I don't know why they thought they could sell out. I mean, they have a fan base, but it's sort of like understanding. the size of your fan base and price points and that kind of thing. So in the time that we have remaining, and I will just allow the audience to enjoy the fact that Christine discovered the true meaning of this phrase based on her Google search for symptoms of it. It's just absolute vintage cookie. You're not going to beat that for a while, I don't think. But it's a good jumping off point. To say two things. Number one, there are some, not many blue dots remaining.

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for our event a week from tomorrow in Sonoma, California. KSRO, it's a $40 ticket, very reasonable price point, especially when it doesn't just get you in to talk politics, to meet Cookie. We'll be saying hi, taking photos, some special guests, but also two glasses of delicious Sonoma wine included in the ticket. There are just some left, so please go get your ticket now. It's a week from tomorrow, Thursday, May 14th, 5 p.m. And you can get your tickets and all the information at KSRO.com. It's right there. Easy to find. Just click on it. It's fullproof. So let's just eliminate those last few blue dots and have a big crowd. It's already going to be a really great crowd. We know that. No illness here. No, we will be there. We have sold well and we just want to sell out. How about that? Meanwhile, quickly, Christine, on actual concerts. You have been looking at blue dots because you're trying to secure tickets for your daughter, Megan, to finally get to a concert. Many audience members recall the meltdown that you had with the Olivia Rodrigo situation where you got swindled. and someone stole $1,600 from you based on, in fairness, ridiculous behavior on your part where you went along with this Facebook scam and gave this person in like incremental payments more and more of your money to not get the tickets, which is not how anything works. Oh, yeah, that's how it. Oh, yeah. You fell for it, hook, line, and sinker over and over and over. And then like, $1,600 were gone. So Bobby, your husband, banned you from buying tickets ever, which is smart. That's the correct ban. But you still want to get your daughter to go see some sort of show. She's eager to do so. What's the plan? And what's the problem? Because you're saying it's been a challenge. It's just very expensive. I think people that are trying to go see shows, I don't know if it's the Taylor Swift effect because it really started, the prices started to jump really high after her tour. But she wants, she's never been to a concert before. And she had never been to a Broadway play. So we got her, you know, third row, Hamilton, check. Now we want to get her, like, good seats to her very first concert. And she wants to go see Olivia Rodrigo. Now, I'm not allowed any part of this. No, definitely not. You know, that's all on Bobby. So he decides how much we're going to pay. And I guarantee it's not going to be as much as I would have probably picked. And there's another. He's looking for a better deal than $1,600 for zero seats. That guy ruined Christmas of 2023. Yeah, it was not good. Was it 22 or 23? 22 or 23. It was the year you had Conrad. So 2023. Yeah. Ruin Christmas, sir.

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So it's going to be Olivia or could it be another artist? There could be, there's another young artist. I don't know if you know her name, Freya Sky. No. That Megan loves. She's young and her tickets are really expensive. Really? For like big venues? She's selling out aren't? Well, that's the thing. Some of these are not big venues. So then they're, yeah. It gets the scarcity issue. It becomes more expensive. Well, keep us posted on that. Dylan quickly. A birdie tells me you have purchased some tickets for, like, the Dylan summer concert series. The summer concert series right now includes tickets to Harry Styles at MSG, Bruno Mars in Indianapolis, and then Laundry Day in Chicago. So. Laundry Day, you had told us about somewhat recently. Yes. Less well known. You're a big fan. You're like out there proselytizing for Laundry Day. The other two are... massive, massive hit artists. I've heard Harry Stiles, like very hitter mystery, but I've heard the shows are wild and fun and very entertaining and everyone gets like crazy dressed up. Are you going to go in a wild costume? I'm sure I will be dressed into some sort of costume by my wife because I know she's already planning outfits. Okay. And that's coming up over the next several months? Yes, yeah, this fall. Christine has a question. Can I come? I'm going to go ahead and say no. No. The tickets are already purchased. They're already purchased. Sorry. Sorry. Harry Styles, Laundry Day. What was the third one? And Bruno Mars. And I've heard that's a spectacle as well, especially his dancing specifically. So that'll be fun. We will have to discuss all of these things as they arrive. But Christine, you could always go and look up those blue dots at those concerts and maybe sit. Dylan will give you misinformation out where he's sitting. You'll be somewhere in the nosebleeds, nowhere near him. But you can try. Just don't come down. Be very careful. Deadly. Blue dot fever. You just don't want to mess with it, Christine. You really, really don't. KSRO.com for tickets a week from tomorrow out in California. Myself, cookie, wine. What more do you want? Looking forward to that. Looking forward to being back here tomorrow on Guy Benson. We will talk to you then. Christine has a question. Can I come? I'm going to go ahead and say no. No. The tickets are already purchased.

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