Breaking: Court Ruins Dems’ Gerrymander Scheme

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is running for reelection. It really does give her a good chance to keep her seat. And if she does, the math just isn't there. They could get close. But the math isn't there. I don't believe for the Senate. But it surely was there and maybe still is there for the Democrats in the House. You can imagine with the Commonwealth of Virginia. Supreme Court knocking out this redistricting ballot question, which really, and I know Guy's position on this, and he's been spot on with everything that he's been telling you about this. If you look at how they did it, the timing of when they did it, even the verbiage of how they did it, even the word temporary being in there, there's just so many areas where this redistricting question violated the Supreme Court. of the Commonwealth of Virginia and that's not the filling guy for Guy Benson telling you that that is the Virginia Supreme Court who said and I quote we hold that the legislative process employed to advance this proposal And we'll talk about the proposal in a moment. That's the redistricting plan that would take what was a very equally divided, I'll call it state, even though it's a commonwealth, evenly divided state legislature, and turn it into a 10-1 Democrat majority. That was disgraceful. It was grotesque, to be sure. So the Supreme Court. settles it. The U.S. Supreme Court's not going to do anything with this. It's a state issue all the way, and especially the way they did it. Quote, we hold that the legislative process employed to advance this proposal violated Article 12, Section 1 of the Constitution of Virginia. The Virginia Supreme Court additionally added, quote, this constitutional violation incurably taints. the resulting referendum vote and nullifies its legal efficacy. End quote. That is called checkmate, my friends, ballgame. So now the four seats that the Democrats would have had in the bag are gone. And we're going to go state by state a little bit later in this segment to show you how significant. All of this gerrymandering has and will continue to be. Let me give you the immediate response from Virginia governor, Abigail Spanberger, unless we not forget, she promises a candidate that she wouldn't do this. She promises a candidate she wouldn't support it, and she immediately betrayed her word. So. I don't need to know a lot about Abigail Spanberger than somebody that's willing to do that right out of the box. I mean, that's just, that's not bad form. That's bad business. You just don't do that. She snookered the voters into believing that she had one position on this. And of course, they always.

All of these woke, broke joke governors and others in other Democrat positions, they always blame, oh yeah, we're doing something that's wrong, but we're doing it because of Trump. Always blame President Trump for your bad behavior every time. Governor Abigail Spanberger said today. after the Supreme Court of Virginia ruled to overturn the results of Virginia's redistricting referendum, which if you didn't follow it closely, was very, very close. Virginia is basically, even though Abigail Spanberger got to give it to her, she beat the former lieutenant governor, Winsome Earle-Sears, by a lot, something like 15 or more points. It was a big, big margin there. And so you got to give her her win. The Supreme Court and this decision, she didn't take it very kindly. Quote, More than 3 million Virginians cast their ballots in Virginia's redistricting referendum, and the majority of Virginia voters voted to push back against a presidency who said he is, quote, entitled to more Republican seats in Congress with a temporary and responsive referendum. See the word temporary? It's always temporary, except you know that's not true. They wanted this to be permanent. Ten to one forever. Democrat advantage. Only then would it be fair. Keeping it even, that's really unfair because Virginia's 5149, even this question, which had so much more money spent like 60 some million on the side that wanted you to vote for it. They three to one, four to one almost outspent it and still barely won 51.5. to 48.5. Very, very close. Just that alone tells you that Virginia should not be 10 to 1 Democrat and one Republican seat in a vote that was decided by like two points. Come on. That's not right. Governor Abigail Spanberger continued. entitled to more Republican seats in Congress with a temporary and responsive referendum. They made their voices heard. I am disappointed by the Supreme Court of Virginia's ruling, but my focus as governor will be on ensuring that all voters have the information necessary to make their voices heard this November in the midterm elections, because in those elections, we the voters will have the final say. Hakeem Jeffries was not quite as elegant. as was the governor, the House Minority Leader.

Hakeem Jeffries said, we are exploring all options. Now, this is a state issue, by the way, but he's exploring all options. We are exploring all options to overturn this shocking decision. No matter what it takes, House Democrats will win in November so we can help rescue this nation from the extremism being unleashed by Donald Trump and Republicans. So you see, it's all Trump all the time. Now, this is definitely worth spending a few minutes on this, and that is the importance of everyone. Remember, if you want to say it started with Texas, Texas is going to wind up, resulting in likely a pickup of, I would think, maybe four seats. Three to four. So then California with Gavin Newsom saying, oh, we got to do this. You know, it's wrong. And we said we weren't going to do anything like this either. And their residents had just voted. They're voters. But no, no, because of Republicans, because of Trump, we have to do this now. So they did it. And look, they've got the votes. The Democrats voted for it. And if enacted, And it may or may not be. They will pick up Democrats, your different people that study this for a living, pollsters and analysts and things like that, will tell you that California will probably be about a three to five seat Democrat pickup. Texas will be in the range. And these are the ones that have enacted. They're gerrymandering. Although Texas has a case that they didn't gerrymander, their districts are not grotesque. I mean, you can look at them and they make sense. They believe three to five seats out of Texas, so I went mid-range and said four-ish. North Carolina looks like net net Republican pickup of one seat. Ohio could flip anywhere from zero to two. California, I mentioned, it's looking like a likely Democrat three to five seat pickup, Utah, which you would think that any gerrymandering that would happen in a Republican legislature, although they have a ban on gerrymandering, which is kind of ironic, but it's kind of what they're doing anyhow, but just don't call it that, and I guess you're not doing it. That would be like a one-seat Democrat pickup. You would think Republicans would pick up in a state like Utah. It's just not the case with how they've set out the boundary lines of the districts. Now you have states that have voted to make changes, but they're in the courts at the present time, Missouri. which is a Republican legislature. That could be one Republican seat. Florida, you heard Ron DeSantis come out. That could be one to four seats. Tennessee, where they were hooting and hollering, and it was unbelievable all over the Fox News channel all day today, going crazy, the Democrats. Somebody was like standing on top of the desk, and the speaker was saying, you cannot vote unless you're seated at your desk. I mean, it was crazy.

in Tennessee, that would be about a one-seat pickup for the GOP. Same for Louisiana, same for Alabama, same for South Carolina, same for Mississippi. That would be plus one across the board. New York, they're trying to redraw. The 11th District, you know, they desperately want to get Congresswoman Nicole Malayatakis out. It's like an obsession, which really is a every knock is a boost. It's like a compliment to her. They don't want to change the map. They just want to redraw the 11th District to mess with her. That would be a one-seat pickup, but it's blocked by the courts. It's not going to happen. And Virginia, we know, would have been a four-seat pickup in the bag for sure. But the Virginia, if you haven't heard the news, we began the hour with it. The Virginia Supreme Court has knocked out that ballot question that passed last week. It's done, just like that. And it really should be done. And I'm not being a partisan. It was a grotesque. I mean, if you know about where gerrymandering came from. There was a governor by the name of Eldritch, and he pronounced it, I believe, Gary, G-E-R-R-R-Y, but it turned into Jerry, and then it became an action verb, gerrymandering, if you just flat out rigged. a district to make sure that it would produce the result that you want. Now, maybe you don't, in a primary, maybe another Democrat wins. You might not get to pick the exact person who wins, but you would pick the party, the registered party of the winner. So this is, you cannot exaggerate. When you say that the House of Representatives is big time back in play, if you followed all of that short math that we threw out, this could mean a pickup of at least 10 seats for the Republicans. And it really needed in a midterm election. Under the circumstances, we're at war. Energy prices are high. There's a lot of things going on right now. And remember, an election that's in November, people start voting months before, with all the early voting, and your decision gets baked in. There aren't that many people that decide on election day. So really, the mood of the country, several months out, really does decide who will win. And Republicans have a shot, and it was not looking good until this week. We'll be back much more. This is Guy Benson. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Harry Hurley. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox Newswineshop.com with code FM Radio 20. 20%. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 order to order. Please drink responsibly.

Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joel. I'm Harry Hurley, filling it today for Guy Benson. I was just talking to the entire team Christine during the break about not only that elections have consequences, are you following along with the decisions that Democrats are making around this country. Look at the Boston mayor. Look at Brandon Johnson. You know there was a reasonable guy that was running in that runoff. Brandon Johnson gets the win, though. Look at the job that he has done. Sanctuary City, anti-police, anti-ice, anti-ice. I mean, it's unbelievable. Of course, Zohran Mamdani in New York. I mean, you almost don't have to say anymore. Look at, and there was just a debate. Fox News did a great job covering it. I love the job that they do when they're covering Democrats. Fox does a better job covering Democrats than the Democrat outlets. The partisans do covering Democrats. I mean, a really good job. Spencer Pratt, Karen Bass, the other challenger who is maybe left of Zohran Mamdani, which almost is like... breathtaking to even think like your head wants to implode, explode, spontaneously combust. Wait, wait, this person is more radical than Zohran Mamdani. I think by a lot. Her name is Ratan, I think. So my hope in Los Angeles is... that my friend Ollie North told me a long time ago when he barely lost in Virginia for a U.S. Senate seat, barely lost a six-year term because they didn't want Ali and the Republicans threw a Republican mayor, Marshall Coleman, in there. He got like 18% of the vote. And then you had Ali North and Chuck Rob, divide the vote. Chuck Rob won by maybe a couple of points. Ali would have won running away. And he told me something a long time ago that I never forgot. Two of the same can't beat one of the same. For those who don't think that Spencer Pratt has a chance. First of all, his story is compelling. He's living in a trailer on the foundation of his property minus his home that was lost in the Palisades fire. He has a compelling story, and when he can say, you burnt my house down, I hold you responsible to Karen Bass for burning my house down. It's very, very powerful. And if two of the same can't beat one of the same, yes, Spencer Pratt could win in Los Angeles. When we come back, Virginia State Senator, what a day to have him, Senator Bryce Reeves, on Guy Benson next.

Guy Benson, here's Harry Hurley. Welcome to Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joelle. I am Harry Hurley. Honor to fill in today for Guy. And on Guy Benson Newsmaker Hotline, the distinguished gentleman from the 28th Legislative District in the Commonwealth of Virginia, Senator Bryce Reeves. Can you say great day, sir? Yeah, it's an awesome day, Harry. Now, Senator, I got to read this quote to all of our listeners that did not see your tweet. Your tweet is literally one of the greatest things that I've seen in a really long time. And for those who didn't see it or hear about it, Senator Bryce Reeves of the Great Commonwealth of Virginia tweeted, we win, Dems lose. Supremes choose the rule of law over politics. DNC out, $110 million, no midterm redistricting, pound sand at Representative Hakeem Jeffries. This is fantastic. You must feel great. And oh, my goodness, it was pretty tight. Four to three, Senator. Well, listen, you know, Both Republicans and Democrats have jurists on the Supreme Court. Yep. But I do believe that they ruled, you know, based on the law. And if you read, Harry, if you read it, you can clearly tell that they violated the rules of how it was supposed to go. You know, Virginia has one of the longest time that you can start early voting, 45 days. And we tried to fight that, right? But they insisted on having that. come back and that was the that's what they voted on well guess what that 45 days really bit them in the butt because uh that's where they ran into this problem trying to squeeze this thing through so you know our i just want to say shout out to to several of my caucus members that are attorneys that handled the case uh for the whole state this will go down and history is uh you know not too many people get to argue at the Supreme court level especially legislators on the laws that they actually voted on. And they did an amazing job and were able to articulate the arguments correctly. And, you know, everybody else on the other side's whining and complaining. I get it. It sucks. It sucks losing. But you lost based on the law, not on politics. And they can throw whatever they want to say it was politics and Trump and everything else. You know, it rained all day yesterday. So that was Trump's fault too. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Senator Bryce Reeves, you should be. This is a very big deal. There's a big difference between six, five number of representatives, Democrat and Republicans in the Commonwealth of Virginia and 10 to 1. I mean, even the question itself, as creepy as they did it, because it was all wrong how they tried to sneak this thing by, calling it temporary and all this nonsense. But even with what they tried to do, it was still basically a 51 to 49% decision. So right there, it tells you that the Commonwealth of Virginia...

is a 51-49 type of deal that could go either way, depending on the issues, depending on whatever the mood of, you know, a particular election is, you know, when Glenn Youngkin ran and Governor Terry McAulffel said that, you know, parents should have no role in what their kids are taught and have no say. Well, guess what? He, no chance he was going to be governor after that. And this year was a very bad atmosphere, unfortunately, for Lieutenant Governor wins some Sears. So a lot of that comes into play, as you well know, Senator Reeves. But on this question, as creepy as they did it, they still barely won it. I think they outspent you three to one or whatever it was, maybe more than that. And in the end, the Supreme Court made the right decision to knock this out. They didn't do it right. Too bad. Well, you're right. And that's what it is. And they're going to continue to complain. There's nowhere else they can go. This was the Virginia Constitution. It stays in Virginia. The Supreme Court won't hear a case, even if they try to bring it, despite what Hakeem Jeffries says, the fight's over for them. They've wasted their time and their money and their energy. And what they've shown the rest of America is that if you hold fast and adhere to the rule of law and do the right thing, people are... are inherently going to want to do the right thing. And that's what they've done here in this case. So, you know, I'd like to have the majority of Republican congressmen, but we don't have that. We're 6'5. So, but what we need to do now, Harry, is get back to the budget. And our budget chairman just got rated by the FBI. So I don't know that those negotiations are happening right now. And by the way, that same person is the one that started out with that 10 F&1 quote that she had. and was the one pushing this referendum. So karma's a bitch, they say. This is a very, very good day, very, very good week for the Commonwealth of Virginia. And I submit to you, Senator Bryce Reeves, of Virginia, that it's a great day for America because had they pulled this off, and if your Supreme Court had let it stand, how unjust that would have been, and they would have guaranteed, this wasn't going to be maybe it would be 10-1. This was going to be rigged. so that it would go from 6-5 to 10-1. That certainly would not be the will of the citizens of the Commonwealth of Virginia, but they don't care. They want to win. They want to win in the worst way. They'll do whatever it takes to win. Them not picking up these four seats, Senator Reeves, that alone could be the difference in Republicans keeping the majority in the House of Representatives. I don't think you can overstate how big this decision was. Well, you're absolutely correct. And I just can't say enough about the grassroots and the people that came out to even vote. They thought they were going to blow us out of the water. And Virginians are upset. We're not really happy right now. If you talk to our constituents, now listen, I'm not going to say I haven't been getting blasted nasty emails from folks on the other side of the aisle. I can't wait to have some time to respond to all those people. But the reality is that... It is. It's the tip of the spirit for the rest of the country. I've been saying it. I've said it on your show when you posted that what happens in Virginia is going to happen in the rest of the country. They run the same place. They're going to try to do it. And that's what they're going to try to regroup. That's what they're trying to do. They're shell-shocked right now. But in the meantime, Republicans need to pick themselves up by the bootstraps continue to lead and get these things done. Because look.

They don't want to play fair. They don't want to play by the rules. They don't even play by the rule of law. That's right. And we'll play by the rule of law, and we're going to win because righteousness wins over the day. Senator Reeves, what is the atmosphere right now in your beloved Commonwealth of Virginia relative to the now stated policy of the new governor, the lack of cooperation with the Commonwealth of Virginia at the state level now? with our federal government, with ICE, these crazy judges that are letting violent offenders go free. I mean, this can't feel too good right now in Virginia, can't it? No, and that's why today's win feels good to us. You know, it didn't really affect me in the Senate of Virginia. My district wasn't changing yet. They hadn't decided they were going to come down and redistrict the Senate of Virginia or the House of Delegates, but I'm sure that was going to come at some point. Why wouldn't they, right? But the reality is that we still have a lot of work to do. We have a governor that doesn't lead. She's a socialist at heart. Everybody knows that. She lied to the people of Virginia saying she was going to run on affordability. Nothing she's done thus far has proven that. Just look at the bills that were filed, the things are getting signed, we're losing our gun rights. You know, the DOJ already came down and told them what you're trying to pass is totally illegal. If you look what the rules and regulations, the ATF just came down with, everything that my colleagues on the other side put forward as far as gun legislation, Second Amendment, is in violation of those rules and regulation from the ATF. We're going to continue to fight these things in the courts where we have to. We're in the minority and our jobs to hold the majority accountable. And we're going to continue to fight for the citizens that we represent in the Commonwealth of Virginia. And for a lot of Republicans, that's in the rural districts. And it's not so much a political fight as this is a regional fight that Northern Virginia and Fairfax up near D.C., all those districts, as you stated so clearly, Harry, we're going to go to Democrat, very liberal. people who were already counting the chickens before they hatched. That's right. I can't tell you how many of my colleagues in the Senate, the one that actually penned the assault weapons band Saddam Saleem. I told him don't come into my district because people are going to not want to see you. And I did worry about his safety because you don't do those sort of things in the rural districts. These people, they just have a different mindset. Good day for Virginia, good win for America, as you stated. And I think we just continue to keep going forward. I think, you know, we need to pray for our president. We need to pray for our country. We need to pray for our men and women and putting themselves in harmfully even now as we talk. And we talk about the freedoms and the Constitution and the things that we're allowed to do in this country. We got to always remember that we got people that are out there while we do what we're doing here, putting their lives on the line for us. And so, yeah. This is about bigger issues altogether and who has control. But the reality is we got to do what's right day in, day out, pray for our country, pray for those in leadership. And that means all leadership. And we just got to turn this country back into, I don't know when MAGA became a bad word, but I say it all the time. Who doesn't want America to be great? That's right.

That's right. It's twisted. It's kind of a bizarro world. It's opposite world. Virginia Senator Bryce Reeves is our distinguished guest on Guy Benson. Newsmaker Hotline, you have a unique setup in the Commonwealth of Virginia. A governor serves a four-year term, and they cannot run for re-election. I don't personally like it because I think you can get a lot done in the first term, but the second term really gives you an opportunity. for things that you've done to take root and to get more things done that you didn't get done in the first term. What do Virginians think of this governor for one term? And then they have, you could come back. Terry McAuliffe tried. And honestly, he blew himself up. He really, he could have won. And we would have never had the great Glenn Youngkin, who I think was a fabulous governor. I don't know if he would ever come back. Maybe he has other things. Maybe in the cabinet. I don't know what's going to happen there. But you can't run. He couldn't run for reelection if he wanted to. Do you like that? Do Virginians like that? like that? Well, I've actually carried the bill to switch it twice now. And let me tell you, the legislature in the Commonwealth of Virginia has the majority of the power, as can be seen already, we've neutered Abigail Spanberger very quickly. Yes. The reality is that when I first was a freshman in the Senate and Governor McDonald was governor, the speaker at the time was Speaker Bill Howe. And the governor has where he trumps the legislature is an appointment. I think it's almost 4,000 appointments. And there was negotiations going on on a bill. It wasn't my bill, but it was a similar bill to switch it to where they could run back to back. And there was some negotiations between the legislature and the executive branch about, okay, you give us some of those appointments to the legislature. We'll let you have a second term. It never came to fruition, and it's been like that ever since, because we always say governors come and go, but the legislature stays. And it really is true. It allows the legislature to have more power than the governor. As you can tell, Glenn Youngkin can want to do a lot more, but he had a Democrat legislature. And there was only, but he did a hell of a lot in that short amount of time. He left us a $2.7 billion surplus, $156 million of capital investments in the state. We were ranked number one by CNBC, and before he left office, I think we fell to number four. Now, if you look at us at the end of the year, I guess we'll be down where Maryland is in the low 30s and 40s, maybe even lower than that, based on the policies that are coming in this new administration. And I agree with you, Harry, what's important for folks in business is stability and this back and forth that we've faced in Virginia, this, you know, it's like. The tide came in, the boat's all raised, and now the tide got sucked out, and the typhoon's coming now. And it's very tough for businesses. And so I would like to see that happen, but I don't know if this can get done in a total Democrat environment. You really raised a good point where some wouldn't support it.

because it almost takes power away. And so you would be volunteering almost to do that. That's a very, very, very good point. Senator Bryce Reeves is our guest, two-minute drill. Governor Abigail Spanberger campaigned on the issues that you talked about in brief. She also campaigned that she's not in favor of this gerrymandering thing, the redistricting that they did. And then she goes and wins and boom. She switches like she never said it. And not only did she support it, she enthusiastically carried the football and tried to take it over the goal line, like Herschel Walker. I mean, it was just outrageous how she flipped. you know, 180 degrees. And her poll numbers, I believe what I've been seeing, Senator Reeves, are degrading. They're eroding because I believe Virginians have caught on that this is a political fraud here. No, you're right. It's the lowest. She has the lowest rating ever governor since the recorded time of keeping stats on faves, unfaves, right? She's at the lowest. That didn't take long. And she just started. So I don't know how she builds herself back up at this point from lying to the people and showing she's just revealed her true colors and no one trusts her. And without trust, you can't work. And I've said it all the time I go on, we're willing to work with her as a party as the minority party, but we can't trust her. And if you can't trust her, we can't work with her. And the other thing is she has to actually reach out. That's part of the balance of power. You know, Glenn learned that very early on as a former CEO that, wow, all these guys are on my team, but I don't have direct authority over them and can't make them vote a certain way or anything else. So he really learned that team dynamic. And he always used to say from his time, playing basketball, he really came in as a coach and kind of was like bringing the team together because, you know, there's 140 catch in that General Assembly and everybody has their own opinion. And, you know, so you're right. I mean, where we go from here is anybody's guess. You know, we've got a lot of folks that are in trouble in hot water right now when those things will shake out. That was earlier in the week. That's right. Senator Louise Lucas is. Weed shops were rated, 10 of them, which is kind of funny since she was the 10 F and 1 gal and put the bill in. 30 seconds. But also her Medicaid stuff. So, you know, I don't know. We don't know what's going on with that. We haven't seen the affidavit. I can tell you that the FBI just doesn't come knock on your door and start seizing assets without going through the proper channels. It's not politically motivated because the investigation was started under the Biden administration. Yeah, big week, big day. Senator Reeves. Congratulations. Good to be with you. Well, thanks to your help, buddy. Take care. Take good care. Yep. You bet. I love Senator Bryce Reeves. He is fired up and he should be. And a big, big thanks to the Virginia Supreme Court by the narrowest of margins. Elections have consequences. This is Guy Benson. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Harry Hurley.

Welcome back. This is Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joel. I am Harry Hurley, and it is my honor to be filling in today for the Great God Guy Benson. A word about California governor Gavin Newsom. Now, when I tell you, he bears watching, it is for this reason. There is almost a suspension of disbelief, because think about it, if you were considering Gavin Newsom for promotion, what we usually do, whether it's business and industry or really any, even in politics, you look at, hey, how's the person doing in the job that they have? And by any fair evaluation, I know he talks about the fourth largest economy in the world. And he says all these things that are just, they sound great, but they're just not true. And remember when Gavin Newsom faked that he was reasonable and moderate with his podcast, whether it was with the episode with the late great Charlie Kirk or some of the others that he did. And he was pretending how moderate and reasonable, almost conservative that he was. But then he figured out. Hey, I better start doing like the potty mouth thing that the Democrats are doing and go totally radical. You know, hate President Trump all the time and just say incredibly outrageous things like Confederate states are rushing through rigged maps to erase black districts off the map. If this doesn't make you angry, it should. That's a quote. That's a tweet. It's a disgrace. We'll be back. Right after this, this is Guy Benson.

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You can imagine he's extremely pleased with what is going on. But think about this. It was by a margin of four to three. And I made it my business before the Virginia Supreme Court even took the redistricting case. It doesn't matter anymore in this country, the facts, the Constitution even. Because by the Constitution, that vote should have been 7-0. Because they violated, clearly violated in several different ways, the Virginia, if you will, state constitution. It doesn't matter because we have judges now who vote by their party registration in many cases. Now, I didn't do the autopsy on this yet, but I would almost guarantee you that the four to three vote. which now has knocked out. You haven't heard the news. That redistricting that was going to take a very evenly divided legislature in Virginia. From 6 to 5 was going to take it to 10 to 1. And the Virginia Supreme Court stepped in. So this isn't even all about just talking about this decision in Virginia. When I bring up on Guy Benson that elections have consequences, I'm talking about if it's an appointed form of government, if your attorney general is appointed, who you elect to be your governor, like in New Jersey, for example, that governor picks the attorney general. Now, there's advice and consent, but in New Jersey, it's an all-democrat assembly. It's an all-democrat Senate. So the governor is going to get the pick of their choice. In Virginia and other states, they elect the Attorney General. But sometimes it's appointed. These elections have enormous consequences, because here's what I believe. And I'm going to do the math. I just don't know if I'll be able to share it to you in this segment. I say this. Here's what I think is going to happen. A review of how the vote went is going to yield the following. Three of the members of the Virginia Supreme Court. So I want to make something clear. This sounds centric to Virginia, but this is all over the country. This is for everyone, everywhere in the Guy Vanson Show universe. It's not just Virginia. I'm just giving you a Virginia example. Three of their justices were picked by a Republican majority legislature. Just so happens when those seats were up. That's who was in a majority and they got to a point. Three of the seats on the Virginia Supreme Court, Democrats were in charge of both houses of the legislature. One of the of the justices. It was a split legislature. Republicans had one house. Democrats had the other. I forget which was which. But it was a split. So this vote was basically three to three and this one vote was going to decide whether this was going to be a four three decision to uphold and make no mistake about it. Had this gone four three the other way, that would have stayed.

This is a state matter. There's not any rescue from the United States Supreme Court. This is going to be final. So they're not going to get away with this. And that's a good thing because a state that's basically divided 51 to 49 should not go from 6.5 to 10 to 1 without an election. That's not right. That's not even American. That's terrible. So I'm going to do the homework and we'll get back to you. But I would almost guarantee you the three that were selected by Republican legislatures, I could be wrong on this because you never know. Sometimes you get surprised, but I don't think so in this instance. I say three that were picked by Republican majority legislatures in Virginia voted to throw this. issue out. I say the three Democrats on the court, picked by Democrat legislators, voted to keep it. And I think the one that was picked by the split legislature went with the three Republicans, and there's your four to three. Hence, elections have consequences. Senator Reeves, it was like a master class in how powerful the Virginia legislature is. I mean, there's only seven states in the whole country that the legislature picks the Supreme Court. That's either elected by the people or governors pick the Supreme Court with the advice and consent of the Senate, state Senate. So there you have it. Every vote counts. We have to pay attention to all of our neighboring states that are doing these things with redistricting even before. See, I'm a big believer. It should wait for the every 10-year census. You do it then. Then if you want to fight it out, you have your committees and, you know, you hopefully have some integrity. But do it like that. Don't do it middle of the game. We'll be back in just a little bit. This is Guy Benson. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Harry Hurley. Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joel. Harry Hurley, an honor to fill in today for Guy. On a very busy newsday, let's talk the economy because have you noticed that until very recently, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has sort of been for her very, very quiet. You know, for a long time, she's basically, I think it's terrible, but she's been the face of the Democrat Party with Bernie Sanders on the so-called oligarchy. I think it's hilarious and misguided, the oligarchy tour and all of this stuff that they do. But there hasn't been much out of the individual that they call.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, how in this crazy time that we live in, she's actually touted as though she is a presidential timber candidate, which really is hilarious when you think about if you put the resume on the table and said, what do you bring to the table to be the president of the United States? I mean, come on. I mean, if it wasn't so serious, it would be laughable. personally and professionally submit to you on Guy Benson that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did something on a podcast that I believe she did. And look, I'll say success. We're talking about it on Guy Benson. Otherwise, we wouldn't be talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in this segment. I don't believe. So she's on the Elena Glazer podcast. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and she makes a declaration, I think she somehow believes that if you earn a billion dollars, there is not a human possible way of doing that because she said so. Joelle, cut 13. You can't earn. A billion dollars. Yes, she can't. You just can't earn that. That's exactly correct. You can get market power. You can... break rules. You can do all sorts of things. You can abuse labor laws. You can pay people less than what they're worth. But you can't earn that, right? Since you didn't earn that, you have to create a myth of earning it. Now, does that sound a little bit familiar? There was a president not all that long ago, Barack Obama, who said you didn't start that business. There is a philosophy of governance with these radical Democrats where they believe the government. Like, you didn't start your business. You didn't build that, was the exact quote that President Obama said. You didn't build that, which is exactly wrong and proves how little they know. I think it was President Reagan who once said that they know so much. It's just they're so wrong about everything. So, and I mean, it just was so annoying the podcast host just agreeing with everything. Yep, yep, you're right, you're right, that's right, right, right, right, right. So they have decided. Now, I don't know what class taught that. I don't know what American experience would yield those results. If you are, that's the greatest thing about this country. We have equal opportunity for all, but not equal results, because that's based on a lot of things. If someone works harder, someone might be more talented, someone could get lucky.

You know, it's not all, you know, fun and games. It's not all skill. You can get lucky. You could, you know, catch lightning in a bottle. You could come up with an idea that could go absolutely, incredibly, you know, viral, successful. And I beg to differ with Ms. Cortez and Ms. Glazer respectfully. Disagree. Just on the merits. It's nothing personal. You can earn a billion dollars. And many have done it. You can do it in real estate. You can do it by creating something. What, Elon Musk didn't earn a billion dollars. And of course, that's times many billions. Jeff Bezos didn't earn. A billion dollars. My former boss, President Trump, did not earn a billion dollars times many. No, they're just wrong about so much. But there's still more. There's still more. Let's hear a little bit more, Joelle, from this incredulous podcast, cut 15. There are very few, like, real archetypes of, in my opinion, truly. What America is all about, I think about the civil rights and voting rights movement and how black Americans really created democracy in this country. That's exactly right. How they literally made something from nothing. It is just beyond me. So you got it all in two very, very brief clips. Identity politics. And the usual divide and conquer in terms of anyone who is successful, they look at as someone that must have done something that isn't correct because you can't earn a billion dollars after all. There's just no way that you can do that. Now, think about it. It's not just Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. It's not just this glazer podcaster. Just yes to everything. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. No matter what he said, yes, yes, it's crazy. the Seattle, Washington mayor, laughing at millionaires leaving her city. And of course, that's leaving the state as well. You might remember it wasn't long ago, New York Governor Kathy Hochul was laughing about billionaires and millionaires leaving and basically telling them to leave. And a year later, begging them to come back. because they don't seem to understand that Margaret Thatcher was correct, that socialism doesn't work because you run out of other people's money. So they're against the very people that could fund the government philosophy that they want to put in place, which is taking from others and then redistributing in a way that they decide.

they would like it to happen. And of course, let's not lose sight of the politics of this. If you keep people down and you keep people needing government, then you believe that you have a permanent voting populace. I believe it's the Democrats plan for the permanent Democrat majority in America, and that is keeping people that could be much more successful, keeping them down. keeping them needing the assistance of the government every month. And the same thing with the illegals that have come here. You know the goal is they want them to be voters in this country. And then, of course, when you do the census, it redistricts everything. It reapportions the electoral college. And it creates a permanent Democrat majority because there simply will be an overwhelming. new amount of Democrat votes that they will absolutely in early voting and even voting at the polls, they would be able to count on. So when you hear people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez declare that you can't earn a billion dollars, I know you know where that's coming from. And it's really coming from a very cynical, dark, bad place. Because this is a country and there's so many stories where people have legally immigrated to this country and came here already knowing the English language or making it their first order of business and wouldn't ever think. of looking for government assistance. They came here to have freedom. They came here to have opportunity. In other words, if you just let me grow to the limits that I am capable, then I can be and I can achieve the American dream. I mean, it sounds a little sappy, but it's not. It's so true. We're going to go across the pond to the United Kingdom. Don't miss it. It's next. This is Guy Benson.

I'm Harry Hurley, an honor to fill in today for Guy Benson, who obviously has the day off. Now, Liz Peek and I have done a lot of radio over the years together. A really sharp, talented Fox News contributor, great commonness for Fox News.com, and you can follow all things Liz Peake, simple enough, at Liz Peake, L-I-Z, P-E-E-E. E.K. At Liz Peek. Liz, what a day. There's a lot to talk about. There's always a lot to talk about it. It's true. But we've got the Virginia Supreme Court, which, I mean, really saved the day. When you take something that's six to five and turn it to ten to one and the other side picks up four just... undeserved seats because they just want to rig the game. As close as this thing could be, Liz, just that decision of the Virginia Supreme Court could be the difference between Majority or Speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffries, or Speaker of the House Mike Johnson. That's a big decision, Liz. It sure is. Look. I think that it's an embarrassment for the Democrats because they went ahead and pushed this thing through, apparently making some pretty grievous errors in terms of the process of doing that. And the Supreme Court called them out on it. I mean, what's sort of gratifying from the point of view of Republican, they spent, Democrats spent $64 million on this. They were so intense on doing it. And, you know, at the end of the day, I don't love gerrymandering. I think all of this stuff is kind of hideous. But in this case, this is a purple state. Hakeem Jeffries was posting online something about 3 million voters voted for this. No, they didn't. It was like 1.5 to 1.45 million voters. That's right. It was a very bare. 5149. That's right. So, I mean, it was a bare majority that's, which, by the way, is exactly what the state is. It's barely a majority Democrat state. And they wanted that to be 10 to 1. That's right. And that's the way the house. Oh, my God. Yeah, right now it's 6 to 5 in the House. That's pretty much reflective of the electorate. And that is the way it's meant to be. So I'm not 100% in favor of Republicans doing states where it's. you know, 60-40, and it turns out 80-20 in terms of representation. But whenever I get, first of all, two things. One, I am really tired of seeing all the news stories talk about how Trump kicked off this whole round of redistricting. That is simply not true. It started in New York. Talk to any New York politician, particularly the Republicans, that they tried to basically eliminate illegally by redrawing the map once. twice and then three times. And thankfully, the courts, even in New York, couldn't go along with what Democrats were trying to do. But they tried pretty hard to do it. And then, yeah, so then Trump said, well, wait a minute, if they're going to be doing this and he looked ahead to the fact that California was considering in other states, why don't we get started with Texas? So, as I say, I'm not a fan of this. It should be happy.

I'm not a fan partly because it has really scrambled a lot of races across the country. Yes. You know, people don't even know what the districts are now, and they're trying to figure out who should be running in what district. But, Liz, it does look like with the current math, and now that Virginia is not going to pick up those four seats. If Virginia had picked up the four seats, it was maybe going to be net a couple of seats for Republicans. Republicans may now pick up... 10 seats that would have gone the other way. And as you know, how close this is right now and what typically happens in the midterm, this could be the difference between Republicans keeping the House or losing it. It's a very big deal. It really could. And might I remind people, in fact, the census, the last time round, was not accurate. Everyone agrees that they overcounted blue states and undercounted red states. The reality is, we should be in a better position even right now. Correct. Had they done the census properly? And again, this isn't a right-wing talking point. This is just numbers. And look. I think what is the least talked about story politically is that Democrat policies are driving people out of California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois, and people are fleeing. And there was a big story from the committee to unleash prosperity about the amount of wealth that has been transferred from blue states to red states. That wealth also reflects people and businesses moving. That's right. indeed is tied to number of seats in the house, number of electoral college roads. Democrats are killing themselves. That's right. And they can't figure out a way to stop it. I mean, it's pretty astounding, honestly. Yeah, Liz, let's tell you, and I was just joining us, Liz Peek, on Guy Benson, always great. Let me bring up California to you because, you know, the Democrats showed how vicious, how they play for keeps. Their leader on the Democrat side, they knew they had the goods on them, so they threw Eric Swalwell in the first trash dumpster that they could find because they knew the math was such that... The Democrats were going to divide it so that the two Republicans, led by Steve Hilton, would be one, two. And California, because of this crazy primary that they have, jungle primary, they call it, a Republican would have been guaranteed to be the next governor. I'll tell you my fear, Liz, and you and I don't have many split decisions in the latest poll in the last day. Tom Steyer is now second. Steve Hilton could very well hold on to one or finish two. I think Tom Steyer is going to finish one or two. And then guess what? The Democrat wins in November. It's a shame. The only way a Republican will be the next governor, in my opinion, Liz, is if the two Republicans finish one, two. And that's why they threw Eric Swalwell into the gutter because they weren't going to let that happen. Your thoughts?

Oh, I think there's no question about that. They knew that Eric Swalwell, for one thing, he could have blown up. at any moment during the campaign, right? And they could have done it to him at any moment of their choosing. Well, and it just could be that a number of whistleblowers kind of went to the press and you had a lot of bad publicity and so he wasn't a good candidate. But you're totally right. He was a frontrunner on the Democrat side taking a lot of the vote. Yep. So A, it was too big a risk. And B, they tried to get people to drop out of that race. Nobody dropped out. So they had to push somebody out. I would be pretty wary of the polls right now because actually they're having debates. And the last one, I think, actually had Bichara coming in very strong. There's still a lot of Democrats running. And so it isn't impossible that Steve Hilton ends up number one or two. Here's what he has that they don't have. He has common sense. He has the fact that majority of Californians are saying they want a change. We have seen change elections before, and they can surprise you because people just say, hey, what do you got to lose, right? I mean, that is the line Steve Hilton should be using with all these disaffected California voters. Now, one thing is working. That's the President Trump used that very effectively. That's right. What do you have to lose? Yeah. And he was totally right. Liz, because I know our time is going to end real quick. We have like three minutes. Spencer Pratt in Los Angeles, I have found him. to be a very interesting candidate. Does the under the rule, my friend Ollie North talked about with me years ago, two of the same can't be one of the same. Could Spencer Pratt pull that off? Because Bass and the Rattan, I think is her name, they'll. kind of cancel each other out. Ritana's even more radical probably than Zohran Mamdani. And I know you have a great piece on him that I urge our listeners to read Zohran Mamdani's $6 billion mistake, but I don't think we're going to get into that too deep. But could Spencer Pratt win mayor of Los Angeles? Well, like Steve Hilton, he's tapping into a lot of unhappiness. And in his case, he has a really organic, authentic reason to address people in Los Angeles who are still furious about the fires. And the lack of response on the part of Karen Bass is... the mayor of Los Angeles. And the fact that even now, some of the reservoirs are still empty, I understand. And Karen Bass went to Africa, having been warned that there was a pretty high risk of fire in the Los Angeles area, did nothing about it, didn't make sure that the emergency preparation response was ready, et cetera.

So I think people are really annoyed. Of course, now what they're really annoyed about is there's been almost no rebuilding. Why is that? Well, let's start with the fact that California is basically just crippled by arduous regulation, regulation that stops everything happening. So it is a real problem for California, and it's really a problem for Los Angeles. So you have a situation where people are really angry. And Spencer Pratt is articulating his anger, his house burned down, his parents' house burnt down. He's living in a trailer, literally. You know, people like what he's saying. Final minute, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said you can't earn a billion dollars. She was very passionate about it. Please, I teed it up. What are your thoughts, Liz? Honestly, I think the woman is just not terribly bright. And my guess is she hasn't spent much time with people who have made a billion dollars and doesn't have any idea how they did it, why it happened. Basically, you'd come up with a great idea like Jeff Bezos did, Amazon. You change everybody's life. Everybody works with, you know, buys stuff from your company. And all of a sudden, you pick the company public, and it's a giant company, and you've got several billion dollars. So she just doesn't get it. She's just not a very bright woman, I'm sorry to say. And again, read Zohran Mamdani's $6 billion mistake by the great author, Liz Peek. Liz, great to be with you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. Have a great day. You too. It really flew by. When we come back in just a little bit, President Trump, once again, promises made, promises kept. You do have to give him credit, even if it's begrudging, that the things that he says he's going to do, whether it's no tax on tips and many of the other things, President Trump said that he would release UFO files. so that the public can draw its own conclusion when we come back in just a little bit. That'll be the topic on this busy newsday on Guy Benson. We'll be back in just a few minutes. Stay with us.

Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dylan and Joel. I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for Guy Benson on Mother's Day weekend. I cannot wait until later in the program. We talk about that with Team Christine. This topic, it really should come as no surprise to listeners of Guy Benson. President Trump a long time ago promised that he would be the most transparent president that we've ever had. And look, I know he gets a lot of grief from a lot of different angles. But he keeps his word in areas. Remember, the Biden administration never brought out a single document of the Epstein files. President Trump has brought out two piles that from the ground would rise to the level of the top of the Eiffel Tower twice. And it's never enough. They do nothing and there's no grief. President Trump does millions of documents and it's like they're covering something up. So, you know, sometimes you just can't win to lose, but you still keep your word and you do what you said you were going to do. Now, you have to consider why did so many prior administrations? Let's just say, call it like it is, so many prior presidents, because you know they have the ability to look at anything, even without having a background check, an elected president of the United States has top security clearance. So you know they've all said, hey, let me look at some of those UFO files. I think several. recent presidents have acknowledged, you know, that they've looked into it, including President Trump. Some will even tell you it's one of the first things that they looked into. So President Trump said he would look into it and that he would release UFO files and that his belief was, let's put it out there, video, photos. digital content, let's put it out there and let the public draw its own conclusions. You know, time. Odd infinite item, there had been surveys about what percentage of the American people believe in UFOs. And some people sanitize it a little bit, and they'll call it a different word because if they say they believe that there's UFOs, they think that's almost admission that you're crazy. But it really isn't. And I think you'd be surprised if you talk to friends and acquaintances of yours. I've actually done full-hour topics. taking call after call after call from guest listeners do you believe in UFOs do you not believe in UFOs why have you ever seen a UFO and people will i don't think it's a surprise anyone people will come forward and they will share that they believe that they don't believe and here is why and i think more people believe now maybe they use a different way of describing it

You know, the old unidentified flying object was the term that was used forever. New softer terms are used, just like sometimes war is referred to as kinetic, you know, energy or something. And why don't you just say you're firing a missile, kinetic? So UFO files being released by President Trump should be no surprise to any of the American people. So the first batch has been released. And now what you're going to have is public conversation. in the town square on the info super highway and people and you know how it goes you do a post and within the third or fourth comment it's going to go sideways and they'll have pictures of ray walston with a bent antenna with uh bill bixby and my favorite martian and you know it'll get all crazy but President Trump not only wanted to keep his word, but he thought this is something that the American people should know about. Now, you know that I think the second moonwalker, Buzz Aldrin, I believe he is absolutely on the record in terms of UFOs. You know, and his belief that they exist. Pilots, commercial pilots, astronauts, others have said that they believe and they've seen things. And remember, sometimes you see something that you can't explain. Maybe some bright light dancing up in the sky that maybe it was still and all of a sudden takes off. And you're like, what was that? And then they'll tell you, oh, it was a shooting star or something like that. But you think, well, I don't think that was a shooting star. I think that was something very different than that. So I love that this is out there. And, you know, when you're talking UFOs and stuff like that. and Roswell, New Mexico, and people that, you know, believe, you know, the Will Smith movies, if you believe on July 4th, when you watch these different movies that used to come out every year with Will Smith and others, Bill Pullman, the president, that they do exist. More and more people aren't afraid to say that. I do think in days gone by, people might admit it to a family member or a close friend. But. wouldn't say it publicly because they just don't want to be sort of marked with that maybe you're not stable or if you have some kind of security clearance or some kind of sensitive credential that you hold a certification oh wow you know i don't think i can go to that person that person thinks that there's you know little green people so UFOs really um

A lot of television programs, a lot of writings over the years. When you see some of these... artifacts and ancient type constructions when you see the great pyramids that are like within not an inch but a fraction of an inch of perfection how did they do it with the things they had at the time so first batch is out more to follow it's vintage president trump keeping his word and letting the public draw its own conclusion that's our quick take on UFOs and today's first batch of files on Guy Benson. Raise your glass to Guy Benson happy hour. Brought to you by the Finnish Long Drink. Finland's most popular alcoholic beverage is taking America by storm. Visit the longdrink. And now here's Guy Benson.

Welcome to Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley. Filling in poor guy. Guy, Christine, thanks for the opportunity. And let me say this. It is the happy hour. And I would say at least half of the Great Commonwealth of Virginia is very happy. So this is the happy hour for at least half of the Commonwealth because the Virginia Supreme Court has thrown out what I believe a lot of us, including the great Carrie Severino. A lot of us knew it was just, it was not done right. It never looked constitutional to me. I'm not a lawyer, but I never thought that this could sustain. legitimate judicial scrutiny. Carrie Severino is the president of JCN, the Judicial Crisis Network, co-author with Molly Hemingway of their best-selling book, Justice on Trial, the Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation and the future of the court and a true go-to expert on really all things legal in the confirmation process in particular. Carrie, I'm Harry. We rhyme. Welcome to Guy Benson. Great to be here, Harry. Great to be with you. You're not surprised. that the Virginia State Supreme Court threw out the Democrats' redistricting scheme. You're not surprised, are you? Well, you know, I'm not surprised on the grounds of the idea that this was wrong, 10 ways from Sunday, how many, how they try to do this. I'm pleasantly surprised because the Virginia Supreme Court isn't always known for making the most conservative decisions. So the fact that they could see this very clearly violated the Virginia Constitution at a minimum was a pleasant surprise to me. Yeah, I'm thinking Mr. McGoo is on line one and also could see that it was all the things that you just said. But correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding, and you would know this better than I, but I have spent a good amount of time on this. The composition of the court, and it's one of the few in the country, I think there's like seven, where the legislature... picks the Supreme Court. So it is unusual in our country for it to be done this way. And I think sometimes you get lucky because in Virginia, which is pretty much, it's close, maybe a 51, 49, or some say 50-50 type deal, even though Democrats have been winning more often until Glenn Youngkin. And, of course, had a great election, you know, in the most recent election process. But the way the court is configured... Democrats were in the majority in the legislature for three of them. Republicans were in the majority for three of the appointments. And then it was a split legislature for one of the appointments. It's almost like a coin flip where you actually have a fighting chance. I mean, if it's in a, as you know, Carrie, if it's in another state, forget about it. It wouldn't matter that it's unconstitutional, that they didn't do it right, that the question was worded terribly. And the whole thing was a hot mess. But there would be states that their Supreme Court would simply, you know, whatever.

you want to call it, jury nullification. They would just say, oh, it's all good. You know, residents voted for it. It looks good to us. But I think you had a fighting chance in the Commonwealth of Virginia. What do you think about that comment? Yeah, I'm very grateful. They didn't just rubber stamp it. And you're so right. There are a lot of states that would have done so. This is something people often, it's not on our radar. We talk about the U.S. Supreme Court and absolutely justifiably, because that is the highest court in the land. They decide a lot of things, but we forget 90% of cases are actually decided in the state courts. So federal cases are certainly important, but state courts often fly under the radar, and that allows them to do some very goofy stuff. You have these kind of judges that might just be there politically and not really be doing the right thing legally. So the fact that they could see how off-based this Virginia constitutional amendment process. was and really could be called out what was happening which is that they were trying to shove this in in a in a way that you know really packed in their votes and made it happen not on the time frame the constitution the virginia constitution was requiring it to do so not only were they trying to rush redistricting in a time that wasn't, you know, constitutionally when it normally happens, which is you have to wait for the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, vote to be recounted in the census and do it then. They wanted to do it out of season for purely political reasons, but they also tried to push it constitutionally under Virginia, because you're normally supposed to do it with an election in between, but they held the first of these two votes they're supposed to have not, not, not it was election in between, but literally during. the election because our election season is so long. And I think that's what the court finally said. Yet you just can't play blast and loose the timing like that. Carrie Severino, visiting on Guy Benson could not agree more with that comment right on, spot on. And lest we not forget, the governor Abigail Spanberger promised during the campaign she's not for this. She won't support it. She won't do it. I mean, just such brutal, blatant, immediate. conversion, intellectual dishonesty. It's really disgraceful how they went about this. I really had a lot of faith that the Virginia Supreme Court was going to do exactly what they did. And I know that the Democrats at the national level and at the state level and the Commonwealth of Virginia are going bananas right now because they love and respect the courts when it goes their way. But then when it doesn't go their way, they trash the courts. That's not lost on me, Carrie, one bit. How about you? Absolutely. When they talked about the court behaving illegitimately, they did the same thing when the Supreme Court came out with some great decisions last week. They call it illegitimate. That's just translate that. That means I don't like what they did. They don't have any argument for why it violated law. There absolutely could be arguments in certain cases. It's not that you can never call a court illegitimate. But you don't call it illegitimate just because you disagree with the bottom line. In this case, the court, not only do I agree with the bottom line, but the court did a great job of defending, again, why you have to follow the constitutional procedure. And I think there are other things they could have found major issues with in the way this was passed. For my part, as a Virginia resident, when I went in and was voting on this, I was just flabbergasted to see how outrageously unfair the language itself is. My kids could see through, like, really, you're going to just say,

She really seems to be a lot about talking, making her own points and reveling in the spotlight, the media is giving her, and not really doing a great job of what she should be there for, which is just interpreting the Constitution, interpreting the law. Unfortunately, I think the liberal media isn't doing her a great service here because anytime she says anything, they just, you know, seal clap. That's not really what we're seeing here. And I think it just encourages her, unfortunately. to say things and try to be more and more. rhetorical in her opinions and not really founding them on actual solid reasoning. I don't think that's even doing her own side of a good service. There are justices in the court like Justice Elena Kagan, who is very canny, very strategic in the way that she tries to make arguments that she thinks will peel off conservative justices and in some cases have been successful in doing so. I think Ketanji Brown Jackson is kind of full of sound and fury and sometimes signifying nothing. Couldn't agree more. And that's your line of the day so far. Seal clap. I loved it. The fact that one of her fellow Democrats publicly said what they said about what she was talking about, I think, says a lot. You know, if it had been one of the conservative members of the court, then it would just look like it's a 6-3 court, which I think you and I would probably agree. It's only sometimes a 6-3 court. This court is not solidly 6-3. Do you agree with that? Yeah, no, it really depends on the case. There's definitely cases that come out 5'4. And sometimes not with the lineup you might expect, you know. But there's also a large number of cases that come out unanimously or near unanimously. And that includes some of the things we thought were going to be some of the more controversial decisions. There was a really important case that just came down regarding crisis pregnancy centers and whether the state of New Jersey could basically bully them into disclosing their donors who wanted to remain anonymous. And the court unanimously smack that down. So there are moments of clarity that can even reach the whole court. In our two-minute drill that we have, Carrie, I would love your analysis on, and I've heard John Roberts, who I've been disagreeing with more than I thought I would as of the last several years compared to his earlier years on the court. But on this issue where they made what I thought was a very correct and courageous decision about not discriminating. When Justice, Chief Justice Robert says the best way not to discriminate is not to discriminate based upon color or whatever, of course, Democrats are going absolutely crazy over this Supreme Court decision. What are your thoughts relative to what this means? I think it's an earthquake what their decision means.

Yeah, so I think you're talking about the redistricting case that just came down. And you got people telling the most egregious lies, basically making it sound like the court just overturned the Voting Rights Act. Not at all. They're actually looking at what the text... of the Voting Rights Act said and said, no, no, that's what we're going to enforce. We're not going to enforce these other things that have been invented along the way. The majority minority district idea, that was something a court invented later on. We're not playing those games. And they said, look, if you can actually show that a state is discriminating on the basis of race, heck yeah. Well, that is a fair thing. Even if they're in Clarence Thomas said, he doesn't think it even deals with. redistricting, but the court as a whole, there weren't five votes for that. And they said, okay, fine. If you can show that they're redistricting to try to make it impossible or very difficult for one racial group or another to vote, then we'll look at that. But you don't get to just go in, you have to actually clarify what's happening there. You can't just say, well, this doesn't favor the Democrats, and therefore it's racist, just because, you know, more black vote Democrats or something. You have to really control all of your experiments here and look at it fairly. And I think the result of this case is that a lot of districts that states have been strong-armed into looking at race in making and are actually going to be found unconstitutional because this court is very serious about a colorblind constitution. They say, yeah, the states shouldn't be discriminating one way or the other when it comes to race in districting, and they shouldn't be looking at race, period. I think that's a great development. This is where our country should have been from day one given the 14th and 15th amendments. But I'm glad they're getting to it now. I think you're spot on. Carrie Severino, wide-ranging we covered a lot. Great to visit with you. Thank you. When we come back, cookies, nightmare, hunt the virus, may be in the garden state. We don't want to alarm anyone, but we'll share with you what we've learned next on Guy Benson. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Harry Hurley.

Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for Guy Benson. Well, I think it's fair to say with what I know about our executive producer, Christine, this is Cookie Nightmare. Come to New Jersey. Haunted Virus. The New Jersey Department of Health has announced that they are monitoring two New Jersey residents who have been exposed to the hauntavirus. Christine, I want to bring you right into this. Because you are a worldly individual. You are a cruise, you know, magnate. You know, you know the meaning of this topic. What are your thoughts? Well, first of all, I'm worried because the two New Jersey residents weren't even cruise passengers. They were just exposed to it by somebody that was on a cruise. So listen, Harry, I'm going to make a big statement here. And I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of people angry with me. But here's my stance. You ready? Yes. Ban all cruises. Nothing good comes out of cruise ships. You get the norovirus. You could get murdered by your own family. You could fall off. You know why I won't go on a cruise? Do you really want to know why? Why? What if I drink too much? What if I just like want to go look at the ocean one night? No, you'll go back to your cabin. You'll be fine. You would think, Harry. You would think. I have exactly one cruise under my belt, and it was magic. It was Alaska. I saw beautiful things. It was really wonderful. We only had about eight bad hours when the remnants of a tsunami that was far away created some, you know, bad circumstances for just eight hours. So we really had a very smooth. Alaska cruise, but I do know what you're saying, though. Now, on this haunt a virus, I think the most alarming thing that you have said here is that they were not on the cruise, which means they got it from someone else. Correct. And while I don't believe, and every doctor that we have heard from, Christine, correct me, if you're hearing anything different, no one is forecasting a pandemic like COVID-19. But a hanta virus is contagious from human to human. Yes, and there's no, there's really nothing that they can do about it. I mean, once you're exposed, you don't get symptoms until about two weeks later. And then when it comes on, I mean, I'm reading statistics, four in ten, die. Right. So you either are one of the ones that can fight it and that can recover or it will demolish you and you will die. Oh, Harry. And by the way, four out of time. This is not like the Kentucky Derby, you know, where a 23 to one shot won't run in the preakness, which I have, I want to pick a bone with because they take the triple crown away from us. And the second place was something like 70 something to 1. Four out of 10. I don't like those odds. No, I don't like those odds either. It's kind of like the horse that breaks its leg on the track. You know where it's going. Yes, that's right. Yeah, it's going to get taken behind the barn and it's going to get shot. Quick closing comment. This is not a happy hour topic. Let's get to something better after. Well, it is Cookie's nightmare. Closing comment real quick. I don't want to get this. Fair enough. This is Guy Benson.

in for Guy Benson. Here's Harry Hurley. Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley. Earlier in the program, we talked economics. We talked about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. We talked about the fact that she does not believe that you can rightfully earn a billion dollars in this country. We talked a lot of economic news. Here's a part of our discussion. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has sort of been, for her, very, very quiet. You know, for a long time, she's basically, I think it's terrible, but she's been the face of the Democrat Party with Bernie Sanders on the so-called oligarchy. I think it's hilarious and misguided, the oligarchy tour and all of this stuff that they do. But there hasn't been much out of... the individual that they call Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, how in this crazy time that we live in, she's actually touted as though she is a presidential timber candidate, which really is hilarious when you think about if you put the resume on the table and said, what do you bring to the table to be the president of the United States? I mean, come on. I mean, it's if it wasn't so serious. It would be laughable. But I personally and professionally submit to you on Guy Benson that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did something on a podcast that I believe she did. And look, I'll say success. We're talking about it. on Guy Benson. Otherwise, we wouldn't be talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in this segment. I don't believe. So she's on the Elena Glazer podcast, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and she makes a declaration. I think she somehow believes that if you earn a billion dollars, there is not a human possible way of doing that because... She said so. Joelle cut 13. You can't earn a billion dollars. Yes, she can. You just can't earn that. That's exactly correct. You can get market power. You can. break rules. You can do all sorts of things. You can abuse labor laws. You can pay people less than what they're worth. But you can't earn that, right? Since you didn't earn that, you have to create a myth of earning it. Now, does that sound a little bit familiar? There was a president not all that long ago, Barack Obama, who said you didn't start that business. There is a philosophy of governance with these radical Democrats where they believe the government. Like, you didn't start your business. You didn't build that, was the exact quote that President Obama said. You didn't build that, which is exactly wrong and proves how little they know. I think it was President Reagan who once said that they know so much. It's just they're so wrong about everything.

So, and I mean, it just was so annoying the podcast host just agreeing with everything. Yep, yep, you're right, you're right, that's right, right, right, right, right. So they have decided. Now, I don't know what class taught that. I don't know what American experience would yield those results. If you are, that's the greatest thing about this country. We have equal opportunity for all, but not equal results, because that's based on a lot of things. If someone works harder, someone might be more talented, someone could get lucky. You know, it's not all, you know, fun and games. It's not all skill. You can get lucky. You could, you know, catch lightning in a bottle. You could come up with an idea that could go absolutely, incredibly, you know, viral, successful. And I beg to differ with Ms. Cortez and Ms. Glazer respectfully. Disagree. Just on the merits. It's nothing personal. You can earn a billion dollars. And many have done it. You can do it in real estate. You can do it by creating something. What, Elon Musk didn't earn a billion dollars. And of course, that's times many billions. Jeff Bezos didn't earn. A billion dollars. My former boss, President Trump, did not earn a billion dollars times many. No, they're just wrong about so much. But there's still more. There's still more. Let's hear a little bit more, Joelle, from this incredulous podcast, cut 15. There are very few, like, real archetypes of, in my opinion, truly. What America is all about, I think about the civil rights and voting rights movement and how black Americans really created democracy in this country. That's exactly right. How they literally made something from nothing. It is just beyond me. So you got it all in two very, very brief clips. Identity politics. And the usual divide and conquer in terms of anyone who is successful, they look at as someone that must have done something that isn't correct because you can't earn a billion dollars after all. There's just no way that you can do that. Now, think about it. It's not just Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. It's not just this glazer podcaster that was part of our economic discussion earlier in the program for the full interview. Go to Guy Benson.com. Coming up next, Team Christine, the home stretch will be talking about Mother's Day. It's Mother's Day weekend. So, of course, we'll be talking about Mother's Day on Guy Benson. You're listening to a new generation of talk, Guy Benson.

Now it's time for your favorite segment of the day. Home stretch. It's basically the only segment I'm on. So I've declared it the audience's favorite segment. Guy Benson. I love it. Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine, who that just was. Dylan and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley. And what a perfect topic. Mother's Day weekend. Here we are on this fabulous program. Guy Benson. Christine, of course. As our wonderful, beautiful mom on the panel, you get the first comment, Mother's Day plans. So even though I'm a mom, Mother's Day isn't always about the mom if you catch my draft. I think I do. It's the worst. Okay, it's a really great reason we're going, but I can't think of anywhere else. I just don't want to be where I'm going. Oh, it's probably your team. I'm going to a Phillies game. No, Yankees are my team, and you gave me grief for that once. I like the Phillies. My children are all Phillies fans, but I am a Yankees fan. I like the Phillies. And, of course, a Yankee is now the manager, and until last night he was 8 and 1, so now 8 and 2. Donnie baseball, I call it Don Mattingly. So, Christine, you're going to a Phillies game. That's wonderful. I am going to, I guess it's the Phillies versus the Colorado Rockies. Happy Mother's Day. You're going to the Phillies game. Wonderful. No, no. Happy Mother's Day. It's not happy, but. It's a really great reason. My niece is in a choir in Pennsylvania, and they're singing the national anthem. Oh, that's wonderful. So that's why we're going. So we're going to make the best of it. But, I mean, obviously, I'd rather be at a Yanks game. I'm a little bummed because this is Megan's first game, her first professional baseball game. So I'm a little bummed that it's this. But I will make sure to take her to it. I think we're going to try to do Yankees Red Sox in June. So she can, you know. It's mom versus dad because he's a diehard Red Sox fan. Well, there is very, very good food on Mother's Day at Citizens Bank Park. Oh, really? Yes, you eat very well. Now, Baltimore Stadium, a great baseball player, Hall of Famer by the name of Boog Pal, had a place called, it was like Boog's Barbecue Pit or something like that. And the great Greg Luzinski started for many, many years at the Phillies with... Bull's barbecue. And when I tell you, fabulous. So the food at Citizens Bank Park is tremendous. I don't know if you're going to be in Diamond Club seats or something like that. No, I don't think so. But there's great food on the concourse level, and you will like it.

Yeah, listen, you make the best of it. You're with the people you love. That's right. And we will have a good time. But definitely, you know, I love the typical Mother's Day. I would like to sleep in and then I'd like to get dressed up and not fight with my daughter over what she's wearing and then go to like a lovely brunch, you know, then come home and nap and then usually sometimes we'll go by plants or flowers and, you know, plant them. So we'll probably do that another day. So yeah. That's where I'm at. You have the distinction. Not everyone listening has this distinction, but you have the distinction of being a mom, and of course you have a mom. And what is that process over life of being a mom and having a mom on Mother's Day, in your estimation, like? Because it's Mother's Day for people's moms, even like my mom who's in heaven, you know, I think about my mom on Mother's Day. Of course. I still think I'm that little girl that thinks of Mother's Day for my mom, you know? It's not, I mean, when you just said, or we're celebrating the mom of the group, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's me. Yeah. So you forget about the fact you're a mom. I do. And we're taking about your mom. It's her mother's day. Yep. Yep. We've already got the flowers delivered to her house for me and my sister. She will come up to my house and then will drive her to the stadium. And we'll probably go out to dinner after. So, yeah, it's more about her. And honestly, rightfully so. Usually the holidays, like, you know, when you're an adult and you have younger kids, the holidays are still about the grandparents. And they're the ones that, honestly, as you know, keep the family together. Yeah, it's true. And that's how it's supposed to be. I love the way that you just said that. We have simple plans. We're going to one of our absolute favorite restaurants with our absolute... favorite people. So how can we miss? Oh, I know you don't have to name the restaurant because then, you know, the swarms of the Guy Benson fans will be there. It would attract the whole Guy Benson's universe. What kind of food can we say? Well, this is the beauty. There is something for everyone. It is a seafood restaurant that also happens to have one of the best filet mignon or if you like a burger, I mean like a gourmet burger that's like a steak burger, not a hamburger. So what's nice about it is if you don't like seafood, you have all these other options. seafood, I'll say seafood steakhouse. I like that. I like that. Yeah, me too. Now, let me tell you one story. We talked about it a very tiny bit when we had Tyrus on the show, I believe it was yesterday, but you may understand this. So my husband's best friend has decided for Mother's Day for his wife, he is going to buy her golf clubs and then buy her golf lessons. My friend the wife has never once expressed any interest in golfing. Actually, when I've asked her to golf with me, she has mentioned multiple times she doesn't want to. She's too competitive. If it's frustrating to her, she has no interest. Well, I can analyze this. Are you ready?

I should have said something, right? Well, here's what I look at that as. That is somebody that's buying a gift for themselves. That's what Tyrus said. Dylan, do you remember what the Tyrus said? I love Tyrus. I love all of you. I didn't know it, but that's what, so we're all, you know, I'm in Tyrus school, in the Tyrus camp. I'm in good company being with Tyrus on Guy Benson. And that's what it sounds like to me. And that's not a good gift. I just, I just, listen, if it was like a, like, listen, I love golf. So if my husband had like got me better golf clubs, I would be over the moon. But the, It just doesn't seem like this is a good idea. No, not on Mother's Day. See, here's what you could do. Sometime during the year that's not a special day, not your wife's birthday, not Christmas, not Mother's Day, but some other time during the year, you say to that special soulmate of yours, you know, I would love you. to learn how to play golf i'd love to buy you golf lessons i'll get you your own set of clubs and then this is an activity that we can do together i think if you did it like that it's it's kind of romantic and it's kind of special and even if it's a guy that just was pulling an angle to get to go golf more because now he can golf because he's got his wife with him uh i think that you could sell that but doing that on mother's day big big no I 100% agree. But I do believe I will say this, and I've said it before, and I've told my girlfriends, as there are so many of my girlfriends get so mad when their husband's golf and they just can't understand, they think it's boring. I... Love golf. I got into it during the pandemic. And there is nowhere better to be than on a beautiful golf course and a really cute golf outfit with a really fun drink, some music in your golf cart and just whizzing around and, you know, just hitting some balls. So ladies, I'm telling you, get with it. Because you know what? It's such a great day date. That's like the one place Bobby and I love, you know. We don't get a chance to a lot, but we love to do it together. Christine, you said something that I talk a lot about on my local show, and that is that... COVID-19 saved golf. Now, I'm not talking about the pro circuit, which is unbelievable and incredibly popular, but local golf courses all over New Jersey, all over the country, were in bad shape. The pandemic, because golf was an outdoor activity and something you could continue to do, flourished and has been boom time ever since. Notice you mentioned you picked it up during the pandemic.

Yes, I certainly did. The pandemic saved golf. I knew nothing about golf. I love golf. I love it. I do a charity golf tournament every year. I love the game of golf. And you know, it can be very social. You dine there. You go with friends. Did I mention the drinking? You did just now. And you can be another great activity for a wife, a husband, a girlfriend, a boyfriend. So I really like it at that angle. But for Mother's Day, you need a good friend to say, don't make that mistake. I can't imagine. For example, if you didn't like golf, because you set a profile up here, somebody that has no interest whatsoever. And that was your Mother's Day gift. I don't know any other way to take that other than this is really a very unthoughtful gift. I agree, but I don't think he's such a sweet guy. I just don't think that's how he feels. And I said to my husband, you need to tell him. You need to go tell him from himself. But. Gotta love Bobby, but Bobby's like, oh, no, this is funny. Like for guys, he's like, I want to hear what happens. He's like, we'll probably hear her screaming, you know. Probably what you're going to hear are things like, I don't understand this gift. Yeah. This is something you know I don't like. I don't have any interest in doing it. Why would I get this for Mother's Day? Yeah, I guess it would. And she'll figure out that the gift was not for her. I mean, maybe there's a slight chance that she will understand, but I know her. And I also know how much she resents golf because she, you know, it takes the guy away, you know, a whole day. I get mad at Bobby if he golfs without me because he didn't include me. That's why I get upset. But yeah, so we'll see what happens. And I hope, I just want to say, I hope everybody out there. Has a wonderful Mother's Day. And I just read a survey that said the one thing that mothers want the most is to just spend time with their family over anything materialistic. That's it. I just want Bobby to know. I like that idea, but I would like a handbag from Nordstrom. Thank you and good night. Oh, this is beautiful. On behalf of Christine, Dylan, Joelle, and of course Guy Benson, Harry Hurley filling in just for today. Guy Benson will be back real soon. This is Guy Benson. I just want Bobby to know. I like that idea, but I would like a handbag from Nordstrom. Thank you and good night.

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