BENSON BYTE: Jonathan Fahey Weighs on Chaos at Delaney Hall, Mikie Sherrill's "Unconstitutional" Anti-ICE Face Mask Ban
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to splash them in the face and get them right back into the fight. So it's concerning. But I mean, it's the same people organizing this all around the country. They're very good at it. And I think these groups need to be broken up. And that was Nick Sorter, joining the big weekend show over the weekend on Fox News Channel. The acting attorney general, Todd Blanche, addressing all of what's been going on in Cut 32. Listen here. Come on. Children, you know what? All day. Put it. My boy. I have your face. Mother's shit. You're dead. We see his face, and I promise you, we will find him. And when we find him, we will arrest him because it is a crime not only to threaten law enforcement, but not surprisingly to threaten their family as well. So my understanding is the person in the first part of that clip who is screaming at the officers has been arrested. You heard the threat there. I'll kill your whole bleeping family. Your whole bleeping family is dead. Children, wife, all dead. I have your face. you're dead, then the response there from the Attorney General, and then a follow-through. So I guess the question here, Jonathan, presents itself. It's pretty obvious. We've heard Democrats insisting across the board that ICE agents and others should all be showing their face. There's no excuse to have these masked thugs roaming our streets, the Gestapo. This is how they describe federal law enforcement. Then you have someone on tape. seeing one of their faces and saying now I've got you I'm going to murder your whole family does this episode not exemplify why a lot of these agents are in fact shielding their faces Think about it. These agents wouldn't want to be shielding their faces if they didn't have to or didn't think it was necessary. And it really is interesting, particularly the fact that this is going on in New Jersey, because remember, Mikie Sherrill signed a mask ban, which is unconstitutional, by the way. But in any event, she signed one in March of this year. So, you know, this is right in her face seeing why. It is necessary for them to wear masks. And the interesting thing, she's had a lot to say, meaning the New Jersey governor, she hasn't mentioned this once that I'm aware of. And you think this really should stand out because everyone should be on the side of protecting law enforcement. And regardless of where you come out of various issues, and it's really shocking. I guess I shouldn't say shocking because it's actually standard, but it's so disappointing that Democrats cannot stand up for these agents, particularly when their families are being threatened, which makes it even worse. Nick Sorter, we played the clip from him a moment ago, in that same interview, and he's also been posting about it on social media, he's kind of infiltrated these organizations and some of their communications and the lists of equipment that they're asking for. It's not like, hey, we need some water and some sandwiches because we're doing a vigil to peacefully protest. This is hardcore agitation materials that they are requesting. It looks like they are being funded to the Hilt by...
Who knows exactly what these sources are? A lot of them seem to be outside agitators. One point that Governor Cheryl has made is of some of the arrests disproportionately they are people not from New Jersey. She is trying to walk this line to your point where she is getting indignant and angry and saying you cannot treat our law enforcement this way, but she's not talking about federal law enforcement. She's talking about the New Jersey cops. So she's trying to stand up for law enforcement in one sense. but is still demonizing ICE and federal law enforcement sort of in this same pandering balancing act that she's attempting. And she was really one of these politicians going in on the masking issue that you brought up. She tried to ban them. That's not constitutional. She doesn't have the authority to do that. But even in a press conference, she just gave about this. Recently, talking about the face coverings, the New Jersey Republicans put together a little montage, a mashup of the governor of New Jersey criticizing ICE and agents for wearing masks and then interspersed the threats that we just heard in a previous soundbite. And when you put them next to each other side by side, I don't think it's a good look for her at all. Here is that montage from the New Jersey GOP, cut 33. Evening, buyer's remorse. Buy a new car, I'll be moving in. Let's get started. Sorry, I think there's been a mistake. I bought it from Carvana. You what? Yeah, great price. I even have seven days to love it or return it. So there's no... No, no buyer's remorse. More like buyers rejoice? I guess I'll let myself out. Congratulations. I mean it. Buyers rejoice. Buy your car today on Carvana. Limitations and exclusions may apply. See our seven-day return policy at Carvana.com. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox Newswineshop.com with code FN Radio 20. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 order to order. Please drink responsibly. Poorly trained, masked ice agents put communities across the country in danger in this state.
At the same time, we're not going to allow mass federal agents to terrorize our state. We're not going to tolerate mass roving militias pretending to be well-trained law enforcement agents. I have your face, mother s'm dead. You're dead. So I'm proud to sign today's third and final bill known as the mass bill. You will pay. You will. You will pay! So, as you just heard there, she is proud to sign the mask bill, and then subsequently is saying, well, hang on, we've got these violent out-of-state agitators. Don't come after our local and state law enforcement, please. In that press conference, she described... Federal law enforcement agents shielding their identity from lunatics like that man threatening one agent as masked roving militias. That is the language the governor of New Jersey, a Democrat, used to describe ICE agents from the agency that you used to run as opposed to the actual masked. roving militias of violent left-wing agitators who have been attacking law enforcement for days on end in New Jersey, you know, days or weeks after she used those words. What's your message for Governor Cheryl? And how is this playing inside ICE based on your many contacts? Well, I think she's trying to be, you know, a little bit more clever than maybe the Tim Walz, Jacob Frey in this thing. But she's really, but she's really. cynical in the way she's handling this because she's implicitly saying it's fair game to harm these agents. Because if these agents are there to terrorize your community, make you less safe, the roving agents out of control, it implicitly says you can resist them, you can harm them because you are on the right side. And I don't think you could read it any other way. And so I think she is really, it is very cynical, it's dishonest in every respect. And the worst thing about it is, She lit the match last Monday on this thing. I think it was Memorial Day when this started. And then she wants to take a step back and act like she's trying to put out the fire when, in fact, she and these other politicians started the fire. And the most important thing for everyone to know, these Democrats couldn't care less about conditions in Delaney Hall. They do not want illegal aliens. deported. That's the issue here. And they really give up the game because they never say the conditions in the Hall and Delaney Hall are bad. Therefore, let's move these people to some other facility. They say, oh, let's let them let them out in the community. Let's watch child molesters, rapists. So all of it is the deepest cynicism. And, you know, it really just shows such a lack of respect for our system of government, our system of federalism. A true, you know, a serious governor would say. I don't agree with the policy, but that's the law, and we should respect the law. And if we want to change it, their mechanisms to change it. But instead, she wants to fan the flames and then act like she's the one, like I said, putting out the fire when she, in fact, started the fire. It was part of the arsonist crowd starting the fire. And then you have these activists, these agitators, these criminals who are violent.
They thrive on violence. I think they want to create another Minneapolis situation. They want to make it as dangerous as possible. You can hear that they're threatening officers. They're also attacking them. Right. I saw photographs of an officer who was bitten to the point that there was a lot of blood flowing on his arm. There's also really disturbing video of these agitators pelting police horses in the face with projectiles. I mean, this is scumbag behavior. Yeah, there's nothing worse, in my view, than hurting an animal, you know, at all serious. Like, I don't want the officers to be hurt, but it just shows a depravity that you're willing to hurt these police animals, hurt human beings, and really, again, not even protesting what you pretend to be protesting. And they're not, and I shouldn't even say protesting because I'm giving them the credit that they're not. They're rioting. And, you know, the Democrats call them protesters, but, you know, you're in D.C. a lot. I'm in D.C. every day. We see protests every single day. not doing this stuff. They're holding their signs. They're, you know, they're making their voices heard. That's what protesting is. They're trying to thwart, subvert ICE from doing the job. And it's not an elective for ICE to deport illegal aliens. It's actually required under the law that they enforce immigration laws. It's, you know, unfortunately, the Biden administration set the standard that the executive branch can basically just decide to not enforce a whole category of laws because they think it politically benefits them. But these agents and Donald Trump are doing not just, again, it's not just a campaign promise. It's what they're supposed to do, faithfully execute the laws of the United States. And if they have a problem again, they should go to Congress, but this is the route they choose. And they're willing to put these agents in danger, but they're also willing to put all of us in danger. And you think of, you know, we go to these, you know, go back to Sheridan Gorman or so many of these cases. We have people that are dead. because of Democrat sanctuary city policies where they put illegal aliens ahead of American citizens. And it really, I cannot think of a situation in all seriousness where I've seen the Democratic Party willing to put American citizens ahead of illegal aliens. They will defame American citizens and law enforcement. Well, you even had President Trump throw down that gunlet to the Democrats during the State of the Union. And they wouldn't applaud or stand up for the basic premise that the role the government is to protect American citizens over illegal immigrants. That was something that they sat there silently stone-faced in the face of that challenge from President Trump. You mentioned Sheridan Gorman, the Loyola student in Chicago who was murdered right along the lakefront there in Chicago in an area that I know very well, allegedly by an illegal immigrant who came into the country. illegally, under President Biden and the border crisis, he was released. He immediately committed a crime. As soon as he got to Chicago, within days, was arrested for a crime, was released, of course, because of sanctuary policies, soft-on-crime policies. And we don't know how many additional crimes he may have committed in the interim, but eventually now stands accused and charged with murdering, shooting to death, this young woman who is just starting her life. And now, We have learned that he is even in more trouble, this suspect, a 26-year-old, according to NBC's affiliate in Chicago. He was caught by Cook County jail officials with a weapon when he was searched on the inside of that jail. So now he is facing additional charges and legal trouble. This is one of the more egregious examples, unfortunately not an unfamiliar one at this point, of...
uncontested illegal immigration plus sanctuary policies contributing to a heinous crime victimizing an American the family specifically the father of Sheridan Gorman reacting in an interview with Mike Tobin of Fox News our colleague just the other day in cut 36 listen here let them do their job I've heard it said that Federal immigration officials don't have to use as many people. They don't have to use as much force if there's cooperation. It can be done quickly and efficiently. It can be done at a courthouse. It can be done in the prison. It doesn't have to be done in the streets. So there needs to be cooperation. So the accountability lies with the city and the state and the sanctuary policies? We believe so. Absolutely. Absolutely. And your daughter shouldn't be dead. No. And the same thing is going on in our home state, and it's really frustrating. I never understood what that word triggered meant. I heard people use it all the time. I hear our governor speak of these policies and touting them as this great, wonderful thing, and it triggers us. They are referring to Governor Kathy Hochul in New York, which is where they live. She had gone to Chicago for school, their daughter, who is now dead. And Jonathan, that is just basic common sense, what Mr. Gorman is talking about there. How I wish you would have politicians take a step back from the breathless insanity of their base and listen to angel families grieving people like this man and his wife. Yeah, it is so really disgusting if you think about it that we have a party in this country that has more interest in representing foreign nationals and foreign national criminals than the United States citizens. It's really sickening if you think about it. And the Democratic Party, you know, they, again, it's they always put. illegal aliens first. And you would think they would actually come out in a world of reasonableness if they cooperated on the criminals and fought the battle on another front because we know they want open borders and mass amnesty, but they are so radical on this position. And I don't know if it's their base or if it's all of them because, you know, it's really sad that we have what... 40-something Democratic senators. And John Fetterman is the only one that I'm aware of that speaks out against sanctuary cities. I mean, it's just stunning to me. They'd rather a child molester gets put back in their community than deported after the end of their sentence or their arrest or whatever. And that's consistent. It's not just a one-off. And we see it in Fairfax County. We see it in Chicago. We see it in New York. And time and again, Lake and Riley, again, sanctuary city. in New York, then Sanctuary City again, where is Augusta, Georgia, wherever, or Athens, Georgia, where he was arrested again. And it's just, it's so awful. And we're going to have to see another family, another Sheridan and Gorman family. We're going to see more and more of these. And they're so preventable and no, and they won't even try. And it's, you know, it's, again, Democratic Party, it seems that they're anti-Trump in every respect and pro-illegal alien in every respect. And I don't really know what else.
there are four of these days other than in favor of illegal aliens. And it's remarkable to me, but it's remarkable and deadly. And we all suffer when people are victims of crime in our community, not just the people that are the victims. Everyone indirectly suffers. And it's so horrible and again, preventable. Jonathan Fahey, a former federal prosecutor, is the former acting director of ICE here on Guy Benson. Jonathan, thank you. Thank you. That was yet another Guy Benson bite. For full episodes of Guy Benson, go to Guy Benson. Go to Guy Benson.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen to this show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music with your prime membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.