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Police departments have an open warrants unit. Now, shoplifting is not the world's biggest warrant, but what it is, certainly, is a quality of life crime. And these blue cities are where, you've all heard this, we lock up our toothpaste, not our perps. And this is a perfect example. You have a guy here who... has already committed a crime as an illegal. Understand that when they arrested him for the shoplifting, they knew he was an illegal. And yet, no notification to ICE to come get the body. Okay, to come get this guy. All right. So there's that. Secondly, he's an illegal entering during the Biden administration, and we know nothing about him. Because there was no vetting done. And then you start to hear this clap trap. about the fact that he's missing a piece of his brain and he doesn't know what he's doing? Then what the hell do we let him in for? What is he doing here if we can't vet the guy? But he seems to have something wrong with him. And by the way, was willing to be deported and yet was never deported, never sent out. Nuance number three. And this is a little speculative, but I got to bring it up because there's enough there. She was going, this might just be an act of irony. She was going to Loyola in Chicago. Now, if you don't know about the Jesuits, that's who runs Loyola, right? The Loyola Ignatius, Ignatius Loyola, I should say, is the founding member of that order, the Loyola order, hyper-left, hyper-liberal. And very active in bringing in illegals. into this country. To the point that Vice President JD Vance has talked about the fact that the Catholic Church has to answer for their role in bringing in illegals into America. Now, before you say, well, as a person of faith, I feel like we should be reaching out to people who are less fortunate than we are. That doesn't wash for me. And it doesn't wash because of the following reasons. Should we not be doing something to try to make the nations? and the quality of life of these people in their own countries better, rather than essentially coming to the conclusion that those nations are unfixable. And so bring everybody here, including all the broken toys. And I'm sorry to categorize this guy that way, but that's what his lawyer is saying. His own lawyer is saying the guy's missing a piece of his brain. He got into some kind of gang dispute. I don't know what the story is. And he got shot. But that's the point. I don't know what the story is. Neither do the authorities. So I got questions. I want to know what he was like back home. All right. I want to know that. He's Venezuelan, by the way. He agreed to be deported to Columbia. Instead, they didn't send him. Why we didn't send him to Columbia when he was agreeing to go there? I don't quite see.

How did he get then from the southern border? How did he get to Chicago? And did the Loyola Order or the Catholic Church have any role in bringing him in? Because reportedly it was an NGO that brought this character into Chicago. Now, I want to be clear, and this is important legally. I don't know. that it was that university that brought him in. I don't think it would be. But is it the larger apparatus that they are a part of involved here? That wouldn't surprise me. And if I sound angry, I am because it's a scam. Because it's not just going on in Chicago. And without going into it, I have particular insight into this when I was still working doing counterterrorism. Catholic Charities is bringing people into this nation. They get money for it. Okay? Now, their argument is the money's awash. We get it in its charity. We spend it. I'd like to see an accounting of that. And by the way, you're talking to a Catholic schoolboy, all right? But I'd like to see that because I don't see that as their role. I understand, I mean, we used to donate to this stuff all the time. I don't need more because I don't trust where the money goes. Why is to donate to this kind of stuff? In fact, growing up, my parents, I remember, sponsored kids in other nations, and we had their pictures on the refrigerator. One was in Nicaragua, one was in Honduras, and you pay for them to go to school and you donate the money. And I remember my mother saying I trust Catholic charities, and that's why I donate to them and not to some of these other organizations. But when I hear that they have put themselves into the immigration business, I say to myself, why? That's not your role. That's politics. That's geopolitics. And that is a perversion of what your purported role is supposed to be. If the money going into those coffers is being used to better the lives of people in their home nations to make sure they don't go hungry, to make sure that they're getting educated, I'm all for it. Any feeling thinking person should be. But short of bringing somebody here for a dire operation that they can't get at home or some such situation, I don't get why they're even in that business. And I'd like to see, by the way, they're treating it as a great mystery. Nobody knows who the NGO was, okay? And they even asked the Texas governor, how did he get here? How did he get to Chicago? Nobody seems to have any information on that. Well, that's interesting in and of itself. There were no records of this stuff. Now, all this comes to a head now because we have a new event. We had in Congress yesterday. an exchange that got pretty heated relative to this issue. And we have a sound bite on it. I think we're going to play it. Guys, can we cut that? The Lola clip where he's, you know, where they're fighting. Oh, okay. So we're queuing that up right now. Just so you know, he's on the side of the good guys here.

All right, as an introduction. So check it out. Let's roll it. The same outrage you feel about Renee Good and Alex Preddy, you should feel about Sheridan Gorman's and Lake and Riley and every angel family in this country. I do feel that outrage. You do not. Because if you did, you would not support sanctuary. Do you feel the outrage about Alex Freddie and Renee Good? You should be ashamed to be ashamed. You don't go on this committee. You should get the hell out of you. You don't understand the rules of the committee. You don't understand the Constitution. You're a disgrace. You're a full of it. Mr. Jamie Raskin. You're an absolute disgrace supporting sanctuary policy. So you're going to hear how heated things got, but it's because the Dems don't care about this, and that was the allegation. And I can tell you that the Dems do not care about this issue, and let's tease out why. They're losing the demographic fight. People are voting with their feet. New York alone is expected to lose at least three, maybe four seats in the 2030 census, excuse me. You have a census in this country every 10 years. The 2030 census is going to show California, New York, Illinois, all the usual suspects, losing population to red states. And as a result, They're going to be losing clout in the Congress. Now, who's fighting in there is Jamie Raskin? Now, I can tell you, Jamie Raskin is one of the worst of the worst. How do I know that? I testified in front of Congress about six months ago. And instead of dealing with the issue, which I went down in the spirit of bipartisanship too. I was invited by, I was House Judiciary. And Jim Jordan invited me down. I went down fully prepared to have a constructive exchange. In fact, they let you read a statement to begin with. And I made sure I wrote a short statement that was not hyperpartisan. And I talked about the fact that the NYPD in New York City. had hit the sweet spot. My thing was on crime in blue cities. That's what I was doing there. I made sure my statement hit this sweet spot. of a Democratic New York under Michael Bloomberg and Commissioner Ray Kelly and then Bill Bratton under the early days of even Bill de Blasio because Bratton was such a good police commissioner, how that team collectively brought New York to the safest it had ever been and and lowered incarceration rates. What could be the gripe with that? And so my statement was couched around that.

And to say, we have the formula, folks. Let's not gaslight ourselves into thinking that these blue cities are great. Don't tell me things are going great in Portland, Seattle, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., Baltimore. The only reason D.C. is even livable. It's because Trump went in the feds. Okay, Memphis. All of these towns are turning into no-go zones, all right? As I've called it in the past, it's the nut job archipelago around this nation. And I went in with all goodwill, hoping to be able to have an exchange about legislation that somehow rather the Congress could write that would help the cities bring them to the kind of success that New York City saw in the glory days of the Bloomberg Kelly administration. Instead, I got Jamie Raskin shouting at me about Donald Trump and his sons. I got Jasmine Crockett. reading articles into the record from like the UK Guardian and other hyper-left newspaper outlets and blogs, websites, just reading them. Not making any points, just reading them into the record. It was the most idiotic exchange I've ever been a part of. To the point that one of the Republican congresspeople, whose I won't name, grabbed me afterwards and apologized. And he probably apologized because I got a little loud because I started fighting back. Raskins yelling at me about something I had nothing to do with. I actually said, you know, I keep hearing Donald Trump's name from you people, although we were going to talk about safety in the cities. I got numbers here, and by the way, I wasn't alone. I had Rafael Menguil with me from the Manhattan Institute, extremely learned, and I had a couple of angel mothers with me who were killed in the same way that Sheridan Gorman was. And so I really was there to try to be bipartisan. I didn't want it to be political. They can't help themselves. And when I asked why, I said, is it always like this where people just yell at each other in the halls of Congress? Is that why no progress can be made? He told me that in that committee particularly, it's about clicks. They cut up the exchange and they put it out on social media. And so what they want to make sure is they get a 15, 20 second sound bite where it looks like they're standing up to Donald Trump. And I'm fighting a good fight for the downtrodden. Despite the fact that the downtrodden, they're getting shot left and right. They have that kind of an outlook. It's just PR. And they don't care about you and they don't care about where the country is going. And that's the lesson of Sheridan Gorman. And so going forward, Congress ain't going to fix it. It's going to come down to the media digging, digging, digging, and hopefully DOJ will get to the bottom of where this guy got here from, from the border up to Chicago, and who sponsored him? Because somebody paid for his care and feeding. We've got to take a break. We'll be back. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Paul Morrow. Starting a business can seem like a daunting task, unless you have a partner like Shopify. They have the tools you need to start and grow your business. From designing a website to marketing to selling and beyond, Shopify can help with everything you need. There's a reason millions of companies like Mattel, Heinz, and all birds continue to trust and use them. With Shopify on your side, turn your big business idea into... Sign up for your $1 per month trial at Shopify.com slash special offer.

Guys, Paul Morrow here sitting in for the great Guy Benson. And look, if you don't believe me about how childish and denigrated, how diminished the rhetoric and discussion is in our current Congress and committee, I got to play a clip for you here because, you know, it's actually one of these things that. If you've grown up during a different era as I have, it kind of defies belief. Let's go. Guys, can we cut 29, please? Can we play that? This story is not about him. The story is about my Sheridan. It's about how failed border policies, sanctuary, city laws, and twisted leaders refused to cooperate with ICE. They sent her to her grave. It's about a government and politicians that forgot their first priority. And the question before this committee is painfully simple. When did protecting our American citizens stop being your first priority? And even more important, why did protecting our American citizens stop being your first priority? I want an explanation. I need one and I deserve one. But first, I want you to know who my Sheridan was. All right. That's set the table. Okay. Here's the mother talking about who her daughter was and what the loss that she experienced was. Now, this should be one of those things where even if you feel like politically or on the other side of the aisle, you're going to have a respectful approach. All right? And if you're any kind of person, you're going to say to the person testifying and to your colleagues in the Congress, We got to do something here because it's not working, all right? Because at the end of the day, even if you agree with the idea that we should have no border and unfettered immigration, it's like a 90-10 issue that if nothing else, we shouldn't be bringing in violent criminals. As part of that influx. And this is the response she got. Guys, let's go to cut 28. As a parent myself, I can think of no greater loss. And I appreciate you being here to share their stories and their lives with us. Unfortunately, this hearing is the fourth time. in this committee that we've had a hearing on sanctuary cities, the fourth time. And there's many other things that we could be doing other than this. Okay, Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal, wants to be someplace else doing something else. She doesn't feel that this really rises to the level of her attention because it's the fourth time. She's had to deal with the fact that we have open borders. Sanctuary cities, no cooperation between the state and the feds, and Americans, taxpaying Americans who pay her salary dying. How morally bankrupt. I mean, I wonder, I really do wonder, and I mean this sincerely, I wonder sometimes if the Democrat leaders have their quiet moments.

where they look themselves in the mirror and say to themselves, you know, how did it get this far? How did we end up hooked to these extremists that we can't get away from? We have essentially created a Frankenstein monster we can't control. And yesterday's exchange demonstrated that. Stay with us. We have more coming up. We have a great guest next. Jennifer Say, we're going to be talking about men and women's sports and the fact that hopefully it's going away. Paul Moore for Guy Benson. Adobe Firefly is the all-in-one creative studio with AI-powered image and video editing for today's creative process. Built for creators of every kind, Firefly helps you generate, edit, and experiment fast, because the asks aren't getting smaller, the budgets aren't getting bigger, and the timelines, oh yeah, still tight. With all the best creative AI models in one place, Firefly brings your ideas to life. Unlock a better way to make with Adobe Firefly. Filling in for Guy Benson, here's Paul Morrow. Guys, Paul Morrow here with a great Guy Benson filling out on the show today. Now, unless you have been under Iraq, you know that we got some big scotist decisions over the last two days, and one of them was the men in women's sports. And what was interesting to me as a lawyer is the fact that the decisions so heavily pinned themselves to the idea that men and women's sports was dangerous. It was refreshing to finally hear somebody just say the obvious, which is having a guy, genetic guy that is a head bigger than the women he's playing against, knocking around on the basketball court, is a recipe for disaster. And something that women, after all this time, women athletes should not have to put up. And yet, with the three left judges. The progressive justices on the court were the ones who voted against it. What a state of affairs that we have arrived at. We have the perfect guest that tease it all out for us. We have Jennifer Say, former Levi's executive. She's an author, works in this area. We're pleased to have her. Jennifer, welcome to Guy Benson. Thank you. So, Jennifer, you're breaking up a little bit. Let's just see if that's on our end. But I'm going to ask you a long-winded question to see if we can fix that. You know, aside from the fact that the just basic illogic of it, throughout all of human history, we had a total of two genders. Now all of a sudden, and by the way, during that time, there was a recognition of a genuine mal. I wouldn't even call it a malady. What do you call it a syndrome?

of gender dysphoria. It occurred at about a point 0.001% in the general population. Some place along the line here, and I would argue it was because the left got a lot of what they wanted relative to LGBTQ rights. that all of a sudden this kind of a thing occurred where you can't discriminate, but now you have to allow for this because it's always a competition. We all know that on the left. And so now because you got the LGBT, I want to stop before the T, LGBTQ wins, they needed another frontier to conquer because they all wanted to show how much more virtuous they are than the person to their left. So now we finally got a little bit of common sense. poured into this thing at the federal level. But is this going to work at the state level? That to me is the real question. Because if this is not going to work at the state level in various states, what has really been accomplished? That's going to mean that entire states are still going to allow this nonsense. Am I wrong? Where's this all going? Are you back to me? Sorry, I had a little problem. Sorry, I'm back. The whole thing is a problem. What I keep telling people is we won, but we're not done. So the only thing that happened yesterday was the 27 states that have laws protecting women's sports, they can keep doing that. The 23 states that don't can keep doing what they're doing, which is allowing boys to steal medals and roster spots from girls. And we can't have that. Those girls deserve fair competition, too. But second of all, it's as a matter of practicality. It doesn't work. If you're a really good athlete, even at a young age, you compete across state lines. So it doesn't make any sense that you have fairness in Tennessee, but not if you go to a national championship in California. And I think what was really illustrative yesterday, if you look at the headlines from all the major outlets, it's all this hand-wringing about the poor boys who are going to be banned from sports. No one's banned. No one's banned from anything. That's right. And what a setback for trans rights it is and all of this stuff. And it's like no one said, what a win for women and girls. We're restoring the rights, you know, the right to fairness and opportunity for women and girls. So to me, that just illustrates that culturally we still have a really long way to go. It's been shoved down the throats of these students. And, you know, I interview, I'll sure somebody you're familiar with. Interviewed yesterday, Paula Scanlon. And she was so articulate on what it was like to be in the locker room on the swim team with Leah Thomas and how when some of the swim team at UPenn had the temerity to express some discomfort, they were made to feel like the bad guys.

They were the fast. Well, bad girls, I should say. Actually, this is one of those contexts where you've got to be very careful about the pronouns, right? They were made to feel like they were the villains, which is preposterous. I mean, did you have to deal with anything like that? Yeah, I mean, you're completely right. I know Paul and I know her story well. They were told by the university. Don't say anything. You'll never get a job. You'll be a bigot. And we can offer you counseling if you need it. Like she's the one that needs counseling. She's the same one that doesn't want to change in front of a six foot four man. So, I mean, I've been out of competition for a while. You didn't say it in the introduction, but I was a national team gymnast for eight years. And I was a national champion in 1986. I dealt with different challenges and issues in sports, as everybody knows. The abuse in gymnastics is rampant and physical, emotional, and sexual abuse. And I was the first whistleblower on all of that in 2008. And I'll tell you, I dealt with this same kind of pushback. The world fought to defend the men who were the abusers and told me that I was wrong and I was crazy and I was a liar. Well, turns out, guess who was right? Me. So it's the same fight we have on our hands. It's hard to see it for some people, but it's the same thing. The world, the institutions are caving to these guys and, you know, protecting their feelings and reputations. What about the girls? The girls matter too. And we will get there, but we still have a long fight on our hands. We still do. Because to your point, they have shoved this down the girl's throats. They have pushed it into the culture and people believe it. They just recite these lines, trans women are women. No, they're not. pronouns. They just say all this stuff. None of it's true, but people just spew it unthinkingly. And so now, you know, the headlines are reading about, you know, what a blow to the dignity of young trans girls. Did anyone care about Paula's dignity? No. What about the dignity of the girls who have to give up podium spots and stand there and spot smile and not stand up in their own defense? Everyone seems to have forgotten about the girls. But thank goodness, Brett Kavanaugh did not. He wrote a beautiful. Yeah, he was strong on us. Yeah, he was. Well, look, I'm an attorney as well. I have a degree from Harvard, a graduate degree. I have more degrees than a thermometer. I have all this life experience. And I am reciting my credits here because I want you to understand how considered and articulate my response to this. charge of removing the dignity from our trans population is. And that is the following response. All right. Get lost. All right. A Bronx tear, if ever was one was deserved. All right. That's all I got. Are you kidding me? You want to wear the dress. You want to wear the mascara. As an adult, go ahead. Keep it away from kids. I think that any sane adult should be believing that. That said. If you're an adult and you want to transition, it's a free country. I don't want to pay for it, all right? I'm not going to, you know, you want to start lopping off body parts or something. You know, that's on your own diamond and your own time. But that said,

I am not willing to buy into the idea that you have to compete against women because you've decided to identify as one. And here's why, Jennifer, and this is something that I don't hear this talking point. I don't hear the other talking point. I just laid out very much either. But that said, we need more of that, frankly. I'd like to see somebody just do that on the air one time because that's all it deserves. But that said, you know, we always hear. about how incredibly difficult it is to be trans. Oh, you have no idea the challenges I face every day I wake up seeking my trans joy. Yeah, okay. Like, you know, I want some, I want some cis male joy. Where's my, my hetero joy? I don't get a whole lot of joy, all right? You know, so what, I gave up on that a long time ago. But. Why do you then choose to make your life that much difficult, that much more difficult, excuse me, by going into sports, high profile sports? That is to say, look, you're having a hard time with this, you're fighting on a number of fronts. Why would you then cognizantly put yourself front and center in a national debate? at which you are on the losing side by all polls, why would you then do that to yourself? Either don't play sports or if it comes down to this, no, I have a right to play sports, fair enough, then you're going to play with the gender that's determined by your chromosomes. And I don't understand why you don't hear more about that because. It seems to me that the answer there is just look at me. It's performative. I have to, I mean, look at Leah Thomas. Couldn't win a race, right? You couldn't put a jetpack on that one as a male. Couldn't win a race. Now it goes over to the women, all of a sudden, he's winning all the races. And it seems to me it's just to gain an unfair advantage, but also to not only get attention, but to occupy a grievance group. Because these days that's so exalted. I'd be interested in your take on that. I agree with you. I want to just point out Clarence Thomas had a great line in the decision yesterday, which no one says. He said, I don't care. I'm not quoting directly, but basically wear all the bows and makeup you want. You're not a girl. Right. It just, it's that simple. And you can compete in boys. I would take, I agree with everything you said, but I would also go one step further. I think with adult males in particular, it's about humiliating women. They know that the culture, not the majority of people, but the institutionalized culture. You know, the media, the left-leaning advocacy groups, universities and education systems are going to take their side as this, you know, they're this aggrieved, vulnerable community. And isn't it amazing? This trans boy had to fight a girl, had to fight through all of this and he won the medal. And it's like the girls are forced to stay silent. I think they revel in that. I think it's a humiliation ritual for the girls and the women. Wow, that's interesting. That I've never heard that there actually is an animus towards the very gender that they're seeking now to occupy.

Right? I think there's a total misogyny. Yes, I think Will Thomas that Paula spoke about, I think walking through that locker room naked and forcing those girls to just deal with it and make them uncomfortable, he knew what the university would say to the girl. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's a flex, as the kids say. Wow. That's an interesting theory. You know, I hadn't heard that. You know, I'd be interested in the guys. Actually, I'm not that interested. I don't want to hear it. But all I was going to say is what could be relevant is the guy's dating history. Did he have a hard time with women? Was he rejected in high school or something? Because if there is that kind of anonymous, you got to wonder where it came from. Either way, it's very performative. It's very much, look at me, look at me. Now the question becomes, okay, look, we've established the fact that it's abject lunacy and it really just shouldn't be countenanced. And we finally got a favor. decision here that is in the realm of common sense. But as you note, A lot of work still has to be done. I think you're going to get out to a point where like, okay, you want to go to a college and you're a young woman who is an athlete. You're going to say, well, I'm not going to go to University of California because I don't want to be competing against guys and there's a good chance there's going to be a guy on the team. But then there's also the issue, like you say, of what happens if you're a traveling team and you go to play in Tennessee and Tennessee outlaws it. So then the star player who happens to be a guy can't swim. In Tennessee, is that how this is going to work? You work with the Alliance Defending Freedom. What are their positions on this? What are they trying to get done? Well, they agree. We're in a grant, and we put out some content this morning on the subject to try to explain to folks that, you know, we did win, but we have 23 more states to go. Right. They're not going to stop until they get... This, you know, basically we want national legislation. We want state-by-state legislation. We want challenges that go up to the Supreme Court in the 23 states that would say that Girl's Title IX rights are being violated. We need a case that goes to the Supreme Court that isn't. What we saw in West Virginia and Idaho where they have a law, but one where they don't. And a girl challenges the fact that they don't and says that her Title IX rights have been violated. So I know that's what ADF is going to keep pushing for. From my perspective, you know, I lead this brand. We're a clothing company, but brands influence the culture. And I, you know, the headlines that I mentioned to you. We need to change the cultural conversation. I want to make it absolutely unacceptable for any team to field a boy. I don't mean legally unacceptable. I mean culturally unacceptable. Which can be sometimes more powerful because a lot of people are not tuned into the legal machinations. And so they're being influenced by TikTok. So to that point, we got 45 seconds on. To that point, get in where people can find you and then tell us about your book.

Oh, goodness. Let's see. Go to the website by XXXXY Athletics. That's XX-X-Y Athletics.com with only brands supporting fair competition and fighting for female athletes. You can find me at Jennifer Say. That's SEY on X and follow everything that we are doing in this space right now. And I've written two books. One is chalked up about my experience as a gymnast and the other is called Levi's Unbuttoned, my experience in corporate America. The woke mob took my job, but gave me my voice, because this is the same kind of nonsense that goes on in the DEI offices of corporate America. Is it just Jennifer, Say, without any dot in it for X? All right, because that's where people are going to go. Everybody goes on X. So, guys, at Jennifer Say, S-E-Y on X, to keep up with the, listen, young women, if you're listening out there and you haven't turned it off yet because you got an old guy on the Guy Benson today. Go to this because you got to fight for yourselves here because I'm telling you, you outnumber these people, but there's an old saying on the NYPD where I used to work. Empty garbage cans make the most noise. And that's who's making the most noise right now. And we got to win, right? I'm going to give you the last word. We're going to win. We're going to win because truth outs in the end. Truth out in the end. I can't see any better than that. Jennifer, we appreciate you being there. Folks, go find her online. Check her out. This is an important fight. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Hall more for Guy Benson. Guys are going to take a quick break. Be right back. In the swamp, not of the swamp. Guy Benson. Need a laptop that's built to perform and designed to last all day? Select Windows 11 PCs starting at 49999 are now at Best Buy. Learn more at Best Buy.com. Best Buy. Imagine that.

I like that song, whatever that one is. Guys, Paul Morrow sitting in for Guy Benson. And as we speak, there's another guy speaking, and it's the big guy. Donald Trump giving a speech up at the Teddy Roosevelt Library up in the Badlands of North Dakota. Let's check it out. We're going to dip in. Very special thanks to the patrons who gave us such an incredible escort from town. We had more law enforcement. You know, I love law enforcement now. According to... According to the people that are running on the other side in many places, they want to defund the police. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. We see them all the time. They said they're social Democrats. Doesn't it sound pretty? They're actually communists. But we'll get into that a little bit later. They're not going to win. They're not going to win anything. They've got some very unattractive candidates, I have to say. During my first term, it was a privilege to sign the bill. You know, I love when he talks. They're very unattractive. What other president would say that? I think he's funny. I don't care what anybody says. All right. Look, the president makes the point about law enforcement, of course, going to be on board with that and everything else. But he's right about something I think that's a little subtler here. And that is, these DSA members are not democratic socialists. Understand that that's a locution they came up with to hide their intentions and true identity here. And I'm going to name check somebody that I think is very much at fault, which is Barack Obama. That's when I really felt the big shift began. One sixth of the American economy going into Obamacare was supposed to change and rectify the affordability issue relative to medical care. And yet today, as we come into the midterms, what do we keep hearing about? Affordability is the big issue. housing, and medical care. Well, hey, hello, is it 2010 already? I thought the ACA was supposed to fix that. Obviously, it did not. And he also had two terrorists, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorn, at his library opening. Shameful. That's who he really was. We'll be right back with Ross Kaminsky, my friend from the Rockies. Stay put.

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Got a front row and center seat to the next iteration of this nonsense. We have this Milakiros taking over from a longtime Democrat. She's obviously going to win the general. Look, is this just, you know, sort of a spasm occurring in these blue cities and it's very localized? Or are we seeing a genuine sea change? on the left in the Democratic Party. I mean, that's obviously the question for politics going forward. And I don't. I don't have a definitive answer, but if you make me guess, I'll guess it's a little bit more than just temporary, kind of in the same way that the Tea Party, which evolved to a certain degree into MAGA and the Trump Coalition, that kind of thing. Like a lot of people said, oh, this Tea Party thing is going to be temporary. And it's not exactly dominant, perhaps, but MAGA is. It's definitely not temporary either. And I think part of what's going on, Paul, is we now have a generation not only of... of young people being trained to disdain the American Constitution and freedom and capitalism and Jews, right? But also we have these silos now where all these people are getting their information from social media. And so they are only hearing voices that mimic their own. And I think it's going to be self-reinforcing for a while. And I think it's not going to be as temporary as you and I would hope. I mean, that is kind of disheartening. I'm going to tell you, look, I like to actually bring optimism to these kinds of conversations. And from where I sit, it does have a shelf life. Why? Because it can't work. It doesn't work everywhere in the world that's socialism slash communism, because the number of them are sliding well into communism. It just doesn't work. And it's never worked anywhere, as Margaret Thatcher said, eventually you run out of other people's money. And that, you know what? Meth. You know, what's his name? If you're all the La Guardia, a great mayor we had here in New York City, he said there's no Republican, a Democratic way to pick up the garbage. At the end of the day, it has to work. That's it. And if it's not going to work, then eventually they're going to lose. But boy, will they do some damage in the meantime? Let's go to another aspect of what I think is driving this, and that is blatant anti-Semitism. Now, you're Jewish, right? You and I talked about that. I can't remember what you tell me. Yeah, absolutely. And proudly so. All right. And you are a supporter of the nation of Israel. Very much. We've talked about that. So is this now going to be a blatantly, I don't buy the hard, bright line distinction.

between what they call Zionism, which is just a euphemism for anti-Israel and anti-Semitism. Because, number one, of all the dog whistles that go out there, when they say anti-Zionism, you know, the people on the ground get what they're saying, but also you see the attacks. And one of them happened in your neighborhood, right, in Denver, that this... Milakuro won't even call anti-Semitism. You got the Egyptian guy to lit people on fire. And he did it for blatantly anti-Semitic reasons. And yet she won't even call it that. So in light of that, in life, we're going to play that clip in a moment. But in light of that, is the Democratic Party sort of on an irrevocable slope into being the anti-Semitic? Not anti-Semitic party? So I will say yes in parts. I don't think they will end up taking over the whole party, but I think they will be this lingering cancer in places like Denver and Seattle and Manhattan and other places like that, where you have these young, downwardly mobile, overly educated but incredibly ignorant young voters, mainly young white women. who have been trained that if you're white, you are inherently an oppressor. And if you are brown or some other version of not white, then you are inherently more virtuous because obviously you've been oppressed. And that's why these people hate Israel, which they perceive as white, even though it's really not that white a country. They hate the U.S. for the same reason. They see both of them as white countries. The Israel, it's exactly right. Israel is a proxy for America, not just because what they like to say, you're funding genocide, America, you're propping that nation up. Really why Israel is such a target of their ire is because it looks too much like America. It's too successful. It looks too westernized. It's progressive. The only place in the Middle East as a, let's say, LGBTQ person that's even remotely safe for you is Israel. Palestinians live better in Israel. No other nation in the Middle East does anything for the Palestinians. Jordanians had to take three million of them in. They don't want them there. Have you ever heard Egypt? Roll out the red carpet for them? No, they keep a buffer, of course, between them in the Sinai. So, you know, this canard that somehow is real is at the heart of all the problems there is just nonsense. Now, that said, I would like to see the Trump administration move more forcefully on Gaza. You and I have talked about this. When Gaza was essentially wiped out following the October 7 attacks, and it went the way it went. Hamas wouldn't relinquish. One of the promises we got from the administration is that it was going to be rebuilt and it was going to be a place the Palestinians wanted to be. Now, whether or not that can ever happen or not, I don't know if the Palestinians will ever be satisfied with just Gaza. But are you frustrated with the fact that we haven't seen a lot of movement in terms of rebuilding Gaza?

Interesting question. I think I'm going to slightly disagree with you on this one. And the reason I'm not frustrated is that I believe that Gaza is largely populated by people who are perfectly happy with what happened on October 7th, by people who celebrate and dance in the streets when Israeli civilians get murdered. And I don't really care. What happens to Gaza or Gazans until such time as they are willing to say, yes, we want to live in peace. And until they are willing to live in peace, they can rot for all I care. I want peace. I want them to come to that. I want them to come to a situation where Americans and Israelis and the Saudis and whoever else says, all right, now we know. You guys are going to behave like normal people, and we can rebuild. But I have no interest in doing the rebuilding first because they've never wanted peace, and I think they still don't. So essentially what you're saying is it wouldn't work. We could make it into the Riviera. They're never going to be satisfied. It's always going to be we need all of the Israeli land. Yeah, until you kick the Gazans out, and then, of course, you'll have all the leftists talking about. talking about ethnic cleansing and genocide and stuff like that. So I think it's not going to happen. And, you know, it's fine with me. Let's just kill Hamas one or two or three at a time and just let it sit there as long as it's contained. And that's kind of where it is right now. Well, I promise you a clip. I want to play this clip from your new Congresswoman. It looks like Millet Kiros, relative to that firebombing attack I talked about. Because to me... This just was jaw dropping. Can we roll 19 guys? That firebombing attack in Boulder on the group of peaceful protesters there that were protesting in support of the Jewish hostages being held by Hamas. Was that firebombing attack on them an act of anti-Semitism? I don't know what was in the heart of the perpetrator. All I know is that he went and attacked innocent people because of what they might have believed. And I don't even know what the people that were at that. protest believed too. In fact, most of them were probably just there to, you know, ask that the people who were kidnapped during October 7th be returned home to their families. That's not a political statement in and of itself. But you would not describe it as anti-Semitism? I don't know. I don't know what his intentions were. Wow. Shocking. Yeah, I mean, you know, come on, as the old saying goes, it walks like a duck, it talks like a dog. I mean, are you kidding me? And I got to ask you, because you're out there, you're our spy on the ground. What's the reception to rhetoric like that? So most normal people see that for what it is. And that reporter who asked that question is a television reporter here named Kyle Clark, who is a very good interviewer, but not perceived to be conservative at all. And it's interesting to have him ask those kinds of hard questions. The problem is, Paul, that...

This isn't a statewide race. It's not Senate. It's not governor. Right. It's a house district in Denver. It might as well be Manhattan or Seattle. So what the normal sane people think outside of that, she doesn't care. The Democratic Party doesn't really care. They're all just going to see. circle around whoever the nominee is because the only thing that matters is power, much the same way that you've had some Democrats circle the wagons around Nazi tattoo boy in Maine because nothing matters except winning. So I have been... name checking, the red-green alliance. And I'm surprised it's not getting more play. Because one of the things, the red being communist and green being Islamist, one of the things that the Islamists have done here, and those people are not strictly, by the way, Islamic themselves. A lot of them is just, as you said, young white women and men, a lot of them women. who have just decided that they have to take on the Gaza issue because it represents oppressed versus oppressor. And they have managed to coalesce. with the traditional civil rights groups, mostly African Americans, but also the gay groups, right, LGBTIQ, I can't even say it, the trans groups, et cetera, and this is the so-called grievance Big Ten. It's a very canny move politically. You see it here in certain individuals in New York who very cognizantly do it. They all share the same funding, streams, et cetera. And I think that's where all this is coming from. Here's my problem. And I want to ask you, this is a tough question. I'm going to put you on a spot. Every city in America with a million or more is a blue city. They're all going this way. And I think it's going to continue. I don't see too many of them holding the line. You can run them down. You can name them all. What happens when all of our cities... look like this, but yet the rest of the country doesn't. And people continue to vote with their feet and go to Florida, go to South Carolina, go to Texas. I mean, are we setting ourselves up for a civil war here? What do you think it looks like in 10, 15 years? Yeah, so another great question. There's a few different answers. One, to the extent that people leave, those places will have less representation in Congress, which is good. But to give you a more... philosophical answer. I'm sure you're well acquainted with Ayn Rand, and my son's middle name is Rand, and in Ayn Rand's magnificent novel Atlas shrugged, basically what happens is you have kind of the left start dominating things and start attacking the productive members of society, saying, we want your knowledge, we want your stuff, we're going to tax the bejesus out of you, which is a little different than the Islamic thing. But my point is,

get much, much, much worse before they even start getting better. And my mindset is like that, Paul, I think you're right that these cities are, many of them are going to go that way. And I think that it will not get better until, unfortunately, these cities are really. suffering and perhaps we're living in an H.L. Minkin world where he described democracy as the theory that ordinary people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard. You know what? Mayakachia, when he lost an election, said something similarly. He said, the people have spoken and they must be punished. And it kind of makes the same point. But I take heart in the fact that I really do believe it is somewhat ephemeral because it just can't work. And at some point, these towns are going to bottom out. And hopefully they come back, as we saw here in New York in the 70s, 80s and 90s. But you know what? It's going to be a long time. And we're going to have to suffer through it. Ross, I wish I had all day with you, men. You know, my brother from another mother, we think very similarly. But we got to go. We hope you heal up. And thank you for being here. Thanks so much for having me, Paul. We'll talk soon. You got it. Guys, we're going to take a break. Stay with us to the top of the half hour. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Paul Morrow. Traditional home security only alerts you after a break-in, and that's too late. SimplySafe is changing that. Stop. This is SimplySafe. Police are on the way. We don't just alert. We stop crime before it starts. SimplySafe, plan starting around a dollar a day. Save 50% on your new system with professional monitoring at Simplysafe.com slash Spotify or with promo code Spotify. Outdoor deterrence requires a simply safe active guard outdoor protection plan starting at 4999 a month. Visit simplysafe.com slash licenses for alarm license information, Tennessee 2012.

Guys, Paul Morrow is sitting in for the great Guy Benson, who is MIA today. Don't ask. We don't want to know. Now, Ross Kaminsky, great guest, voice of the Rockies. You can catch him out there on the radio. And he's got a substack going these days, too. You can find Ross Report. Check it out. I get it, and I steal ideas from it. But, you know, one of the things you've got to recognize is that there is a real international component. of what's going on with these DSA votes. And you should recognize a couple of things. It's actually bigger than just the Israeli question. That's a big part of it because that works for them because, of course, it fits into this very simplistic oppressed oppressor paradigm. And in fact, Israel used to reside on the other side of that when it came to American progressives. Back in the 50s and 60s, Israel was sort of quasi-socialist. They had the kibbutz system, et cetera. And the feeling among the left here was that they were very much the friendlies. But they looked too successful after a while. They looked too much like Americans. As Ross said, they scanned mostly as white and less Sephardic or some of the other. Maybe the Somali Jews. There are some North African Jews. If you don't know that, many of them are in Israel. But for the most part, it looked like America. And so they had to be the oppressors. And then when it came down to the fact that the Palestinians were darker skinned, that's the perfect confluence. And they became the oppressed. It's not a whole lot more complicated than that in how it's switched. Stay with us now for the last half hour with Daniel D. Martino on International Affairs in Latin America. You're not going to want to miss this. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% up your first purchase at Fox Newswineshop.com with code FN Radio 20. 20. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 older to order. Please drink responsibly.

Guy Benson, sponsored by Previgin. Previgin, made for your brain. Guys, Paul Morrow, sitting in for the great Guy Benson. And we have now upcoming a guest who knows more about Latin America than most of the commentators out there combined. Why? Because he grew up in Venezuela. And saw firsthand the deterioration of that great nation. Now, I've been to Venezuela back in the day, all right? And I was still working. And I got to tell you, that's a country that really has promised. They got beaches. It's a little bit like America. You got everything smaller, obviously. But they got beaches, mountains, beautiful terrain, great people. They got some really cool cities. They got fishing villages. They got oceanfront. Forget about it. And yet. And yet the place is consistently a basket case, and it's because of their leadership. It's because of the strong-arm leadership. And so there's a reason why I went into a little bit of international relations with Ross Kaminsky, because I wanted to demonstrate. That the DSA, it's not just Israel America, it's no borders anywhere because that's what communism is. That's what communists want. They want the dictatorship of the proletariat globally. It's about classes. It's not about nations. People don't understand that. This is why you'll get people like Maldani rooting against Team USA in the World Cup. Are you kidding me? The nation that took his family in. It's because they don't want nations. The last thing they want is a powerful nation like a hyperpowers. It's called America. So that's why I think Daniel D. Martino was such an important voice. He worked with an exile group bringing these kinds of issues to the fore. Every chance I get, I try to talk to the guy. You've seen them on a network. Terrific guess so let's get them in. Daniel, welcome to the big show, pal. Thank you for having me, Paul. So listen, man, I have to ask you this. First of all, Venezuelan now, of all things to happen, here it is maybe making some progress and we can talk about whether that's going as we would like it to be. And then boom. Fate, as the old saying goes, man plans, God laughs. You know, we have this terrible earthquake. What is the death toll up to from what you've heard? How is it going down there in terms of helping these people out and American assistance and sending down supplies? Are they getting to the people? Those kinds of the questions that a lot of Americans have. What are you hearing? Yeah. So you're right. It is truly kind of like the drop that spilled the glass in this case.

It's just really heartbreaking, right? Especially after we were having hope in Venezuela. Suddenly there's the most deadly earthquake in Venezuelan history, a natural disaster. So the official death toll is too low to be true. Right. We know that the U.S. Geological Survey estimated that deaths were likely going to be between 10,000 and 100,000. I don't think it's going to get to 100,000, but I certainly think it's over 10. That is because the number of buildings damage is estimated at 58,000 buildings, most of which just fell apart. So, you know, even if it's just one person per building, you know, that's already over 50K. Right. So, so clearly we're talking in the tens of thousands. There's a shortage of places to bury people right now. It's extremely heartbreaking. And so they're having to send body bags to Venezuela from other countries because the bodies are decomposing in the sidewalks and are about to explode. That's the visual image for people to have. Also, people need to understand that the Venezuelan regime totally didn't respond, essentially. Venezuelans were left to their own hands to rescue people and thanks to the help of foreign countries, especially the U.S. that sent rescue teams, especially Israel, Mexico sent amazing rescue teams to Argentina, so many countries, even Syria sent rescue teams, okay? And those people have been helping. And those people have been helping tremendously. And Venezuelans have had incredible resilience. But Venezuela and right now are at a boiling point of really hatred towards the regime. Right. Because you saw the police stand right next to the ruins of the buildings while people were looking for their family members. And all they did was either stand there holding a gun without helping or. They actively hindered the effort by stopping the aid or even robbing the earthquake victims. Yeah. This is the Hamas model, which is you send AIDS. This is why, you know, just throwing money at something doesn't work. I go back all the way this before your time, Kim, but in the, what was it, 80s, live aid. And it was this big, big concert. All the pop stars came out. I donated money. Everybody I knew donated money. They raised what would have been in today's money billions for Ethiopian famine. And like when they ultimately did the examination of it, none of the money got to where it was supposed to get. It was all stolen by the oligarchs. And that is always the risking these things when the aid NGOs step up. They're so corrupt when you have to rely on the people on the ground. And my understanding is that the only aid right now that's working is because America has such a strong presence there, thanks to body snatching Maduro and putting in Delsey as the one who's running things. She's beholden to us that the Americans have been able to force some of the aid to get out there. But the bottom line is...

The regime that's still in place is stealing a lot of it for their own benefit. And you and I both know what's going to happen. There's going to be a black market now. So I understand that, but so they're not, they're not sending cash to the government. Nobody's sending to the government. No, there's supplies, yeah. So there's sending supplies. A lot of this is being really well managed. I'll say I have to get credit for this because it's, especially Samaritans, Perth, Catholic Relief Services. even local Venezuelan groups and others have been able to set up hospitals, give things out. It's what other Venezuelans are giving from inside Venezuela, transporting it within the country, not foreigners from abroad, that the regime is interfering with and even stealing. Wow. You know, I mean, the idea that at this point they would be doing this kind of nonsense, and then what happens, which is what Hamas does, is ultimately they barter or sell it back to the population. And so what it really argues is that if you're not an NGO backed by a nation state that's got some power, as in us, because we're the only ones that really can do it, then, you know, this stuff is fair game to be stolen and stored someplace. So let me ask you this. Is America pre-earthquake now, because we're going to have to do that now, right, pre- and post-earthquake? Is America pre-earthquake? Were we moving quickly enough to stand Venezuela up in a way that holds promise for the Venezuelan people post-Moduro? The truth is, I don't know, Paul, because, you know, the plan really isn't public. We just know that the Secretary of State has three phases, and obviously everybody agrees with that. Everybody wants recovery. Everybody wants the country to be stable, and everybody wants a transition to democracy, except the regime, of course. Right. And so, but there is no timeline. And so I think that that is really the thing that is missing. That is... the Trump administration announced, everybody would stay calm. Now, of course, I understand that maybe they don't because they don't want to undermine it with the regime. But it feels sometimes like the regime is undermining the plan, that the regime is happy about the earthquake. And so they're trying to use this as an opportunity to remain in power for longer. Ah, what a disaster. I mean, let me ask you this. You're an economist by trade, right? Yes. All right. So I have a theory, and I want to test it out on you here. And it comes from our latest complications with Iran. And let's actually deal with the Iran issue first. Is there a feeling of Venezuela that America has taken its eye off this hemisphere and places like Venezuela because of pivoting to Iran? That was certainly a feeling until recently, yes, but not after the earthquake. I think America showed that it's still focusing on Venezuela very much. All right. I'm glad to hear that because I actually started tweeting that immediately. You know, look, we've got to help people down in Venezuela here or the American? No, the help has been amazing. It has to be there. I will say, though.

that there is a feeling inside Venezuela right now, after statements by the US rep there, John Amy Coney Barrett, that they are just way too cozy with the Delcy regime. Yeah. Because not necessarily because, of course, they're still in power, but rather because they're literally praising their disaster response and saying it's been transparent and good, when in reality it just hasn't. That's just... outright false. Like, you don't have to lie to us, you know? Yeah, and the thing is, in this day and age, you know, Elon Musk put the Starlink up over Venezuela and the truth's going to get out. That's right. And that's great, by the way. We also have to really praise Elon Musk with Starlink because thanks to that, Paul, a lot of victims that were trapped inside the building were able to connect to the internet from the rubbles of the disaster and they were found and saved. Like Elon Musk saved lives directly with that. Well, this guy is one of the most significant transformative human beings in modern age, right? In the modern age, this guy. And you know what? He's not, he's young. Guys, what is he in his 40s? This guy, forget about where he's going to end up. Now. Here's where I was going with this. I feel like a lot of America, and you're an American now, whether you're like it or not, you're here. And maybe you're going to go back to Venezuela. I wouldn't be surprised someday if I find out you're the president down there. Now, you know, and if that's the case, you know, I'm always available to, you know, run all the police departments down there, all right? So, you know, remember my name. In all seriousness, though, you know. I feel like Americans are tired of foreign interventions, particularly, particularly in the Middle East. All right? I'm not saying we pull back, forget our allies there, forget Israel, forget our Gulf allies. No, you're going to stay engaged. But I feel like, you know, we keep hearing, pivot to Asia, pivot to Asia. I feel like the pivot should be more. to this hemisphere. And you're seeing the shift to the right and to common sense. USAID pulls back because of the Trump administration. And all of a sudden, you're seeing all these elections going to the right. I understand Brazil is still out there. I understand Mexico is still out there. I understand Nicaragua's out there. But pretty much everybody else is shifting towards a common sense right and our approach, Mont, with America and tying themselves to the American ideal and ideas. Is it time? In light of the fact that look at the nations that are going well into the oil business here. We know Venezuela, and I know it's not the light, sweet crude mostly, but we've got to refine it, but we'll do that. We got, you know, businesses there. Chevron's got the license. You got Suriname discovering oil. You got Argentina coming to the floor. Guyana. I could go on, right? Mexico's even got oil. So you got all of this stuff emerging. Why are we screwing around with the straits of her moves? Let the rest of the world worry about that. got it all right here. What do you think about the idea of almost like an American, as in South America, Central American, OPEC, and more of an economic construct in our own hemisphere building on the Monroe Doctrine, the Roosevelt Corollary, yada, yada, yada, yada. Am I talking up my ear? Well, you know that President Bush tried to do that. George stole you. I know, and he went down to Colombia. I was there with Eurigna. Chavez was who stole.

Yeah, exactly. And so obviously I support that. I think that there, you know, I wish that the entire continent from Canada all the way to Argentina was ruled by free countries and all of these countries could be allies and there could be free trade between all of them. I think you will be very useful. I think you could get out of the... you know, religious and historical troubles of the old world, right, that exists there and don't in the new world. And I think that that's something that really unites the countries in the Americas. Can we see Cuba come around at some point? What are we going to do with Cuba? I don't know. I think that, you know, Marco Rubio was very right to do what he did today, which is he sanctioned the Cuban Institute for a quote-unquote peace, which is actually an evil, loving group that, you know, tries to brainwash Americans into supporting the Cuban regime, finances, a host of bad activities, and also violates sanctions. lunders money for the Cuban regime and cronies. And so they're deporting one man and his family that was working for them. I'm of the belief that this criminal shouldn't be deported, but instead arrested. So that's a different thing. Well, it's interesting. You know, sometimes they just take that route, you know, and he'll probably be, if next time they do a boat lift, they'll probably end up back here. But people don't realize that Cuba is actually a RICO. All right, that GESA corporation is a criminal organization. The Fidel Castro, you know, successors run the place, rip the place off, make every dime when that falls. And I do think it'll fall during the Trump administration. It's going to be the best shot that we've had. People are going to see how bad it is. Because that's going to really create a legacy for President Trump. I mean, if. Cuba becomes a free country, if Venezuela becomes a free country. And I don't mean that, you know, these people remain in power, but that there is a changing who is in power. That's what he's going to be remembered for. If there is no change in the people who rule those countries, he's not going to be remembered for any of that at all. There's no reason with the resources we have in this hemisphere, food, fuel, everything. We got to jerk around with some of these places around the globe that'll never be stable and never get their act together. I think you're right. I think if Trump accomplishes that, it's going to be the greatest legacy he could have. And from where I sit, it solves so many problems. Daniel, we got to go. I always love checking in with you. Folks, listen to me if you haven't heard it before. The greatest transformations of the Trump. administration and foreign policy. Yeah, the Abraham Accords are a possibility, but in the mid-east, they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Latin America is where our future should lie, in my opinion, and I think that the Trump administration agrees this hemisphere is where it's happening. Daniel, we always appreciate you and hope we talk again soon. Thank you, Paul. All right, buddy. Folks, we're going to be right back for the end of our...

Second hour. Stay with us. Paul Morrow on Guy Benson. Filling in for Guy Benson. It's Paul Morrow. little tears for fears there. Guy plays better music than Failure, by the way. Failure's music is a true. That is very controversial. I got to talk to Phelan about some of his music choices. I got to tell you. You know, this is just stuff he must have played in his cab back in the day. He's going to end up driving a cab again. Wait, Jimmy drove a cab? I never heard about this, though. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to comment on it. Let me do the show, please. If you don't mind, this is not comfortable when the producer actually is more entertaining than the host. So let me end this hour before we go into our final hour with the great Jonathan Turley, who you're going to want to stick around in here because he's going to tease out all these momentous decisions that we got yesterday and the day before relative to SCOTUS. You know, look, folks, the world is getting smaller. All right. The travel that's coming online, you know, when I was a kid, you get on a plane, that was a big deal. Now people jump on a plane, $49. You're in a different hemisphere, all right? Somebody's cheap airlines. It's a very different place. The communications are instantaneous. I mean, again, when I was a kid, if you made a long-distance phone call for some reason, your parents said, do you keep it short? Because it was expensive. Now it's free on the phone, on a mobile phone, using an app. My point is, this stuff. about our interrelatedness matters. And at some point America, in my opinion, does have to step up and recognize something. We can't police the world. We do need allies. There's no reason to alienate all of Europe. We shouldn't do that. But that said, I don't want to be their protector forever as well. When it comes to Asia, of course we need allies there. But is it really our job to make sure China behaves on everything? I don't know. Maybe it is. Maybe we're so tied to them. But whose fault is that? As I said earlier, it's our own because we shipped our industrial base there. I think the great Teddy Roosevelt to invoke him because that's where Donald Trump is today, initiating that new library, had it right. This hemisphere has it all. The Roosevelt Corollary, 1902, looked that up, a continuation of the Monroe Doctrine. I'm Paul Morrow. Stick with us for the last hour and the great Jonathan Turley. We'll be right back.

Raise your glass to Guy Benson Happy Hour. Brought to you by the Finnish Long Drink. Finland's most popular alcoholic beverage is taking America by storm. Visit thelongdrink.com. And now, here's Guy Benson. So welcome back to Guy Benson as we cut our last hour here on the week leading up to the 200th anniversary of America. It's obviously a big, big week here in New York. And apropos of that, we have a great guest, a perfect guest. For that, as America reassesses where it stands on so many fundamental issues, and just personally, somebody who I see around the building sometime here at Foxxby, I always wanted to talk to more in depth. So, counselor, Jonathan Turley, welcome to Guy Benson, sir. Thank you so much. Great to talk to you, my friend. So, listen, not that, you know, you've had anything to talk about over the last couple of days, but I'm going to run down in chronological order here. A couple of these decisions that, you know, obviously is up, everybody's up in arms about. But, you know, look, I think you and I are on the same page here in saying that, you know, reasonable minds can disagree, but the court got a lot right here. Let's run down first as they came out real quick. The geo fence decision, what does it mean and why do you think it was correct? Well, you know, the court has struggled with technology in the Fourth Amendment cases for many decades. In fact, you know, there's always been this race between technology and privacy, and privacy is lost as technology advances. In some cases, in spectacular fashion, you know, the court used to have doctrines like the trespass doctrine where technology allowed surveillance without trespass. So the court had to adjust. So this is another example of technology that the court is looking at and saying, whoa, this could really at this rate the Fourth Amendment, you know, that you have these companies being asked. for basically tracking information about individuals, unknown individuals in an area. And the court said, you know, that's going too far. We need some type of protection. Now, people need to keep in mind that a warrant is not a insurmountable challenge. Most warrants are approved. The vast majority are approved. Just that you have to show probable cause. You can't go on a fishing expedition. Right. And, you know, look, this grew out of a lot of us sort of coming, not to get too lawyerly, but there was that Jay Jones decision relative to putting a GPS on a car. And the court agreed a warrant was necessary there. And so, look, it was no big surprise. And I think even a lot of law enforcement agrees with it. There is the issue of whether you can, and I suspect now it's off the table, you can throw a geo fence around an area.

as opposed to a specific person. Let me give you for the audience where this devolves to on the ground. You're trying to secure Times Square on New Year's Eve. You're worried about the fact that maybe there's somebody in there communicating by various means, and you're looking for words like bomb, jihad, detonation. You're going to need a warrant for that going forward, I guess, but is that not going to be an awfully difficult thing to get in front of a judge? Yeah, it does make it a real challenge. And as you know, from your own distinguished law enforcement career, law enforcement is not trying to deprive people of privacy, but they are also trying to find these bad guys, hopefully before they hurt someone. And the courts understand that, and they want to try to accommodate. And so we're going to have to see how this sort of plays out. It's easier to put sort of a geo offense with a specific individual in mind to track that individual. To the extent that you're seeking information related to an individual, there might be some room at the elbows. It's going to be worked out as we go forward. But what the court is saying is that they can't allow the government just to sort of do a blanket search for whoever, who is moving and about in a given area without something more. And I think that what we're going to see is you note. We're going to see sort of the courts trying to calibrate this for more reasonable efforts. This is what, you know, law generally the saying is that it's 10 years behind the tech. And that's kind of true here as well. For the audience, you know, you want to think about it in real prosaic terms, the Guthrie case. One of the things you would do is geo-fence where she had been and see if an active phone was in there. You're not looking for a specific person. You're looking for a specific area. But as Jonathan points out, you can get that paper. Don't be lazy. Get the DA or the AUSA to write it. Get in front of the judge and you're likely going to get it. And if you don't, well, then you shouldn't have got it. You didn't write it up well, et cetera. Okay, let's move on. we got a lot stuff to cover. Let's stay with the first day's decisions. We have the two decisions that seem to expand presidential power. One I think certainly does, of course, which is the FTC ruling, excuse me, but the firing of Lisa Cook initially was perceived as a loss. All right, wow, he can't fire a member of the Fed. What's going on here? I mean, isn't that something the exec should be able to do? But it's actually more nuanced than that. Can you tease that out for the audience? They're absolutely correct on that one. The decision on Cook was largely procedural. You know, Cook found out about her termination from a posting on social media by the president, which posted a letter that was itself rather general. And what the court said was, look, that's not enough. And you may still be able to fire her, but there are some basic requirements when you have to show cause. And this really didn't show any cost. This was just basically posting and saying, you're fired. Hit the bricks. Yeah. Yeah. It was like his old show. And they're saying, nah, it makes for good reality TV. And it makes it really bad for this type of governmental change. So that one's very limited and fact specific. And people, I think, overplayed it, as you noted, Paul. Yeah. But the FTC ruling is a big move, is it not?

Yes, and that is huge. And, you know, many people doubted that Humphrey's executor, which is this underlying case would ever be overturned. Now, most people don't know what Humphrey executor is, but it is a foundational case that limited presidents in their ability to remove people in the executive branch and so-called independent commissions. Ever since it came down over 90 years ago, Presidents have opposed it. Many scholars and judges have said, where does this come from? Now, some of us actually like the idea of independent commissions, but that's not the issue. The issue is where in the Constitution does it say that Congress can create this hybrid creature that's a little legislative and a little executive? It's just not there. And what the court said was, yeah, this has been around a long time. And yeah, it has been very important. That still doesn't mean that it is a valid constitutional interpretation. They said, we just don't see it. We don't see in the Constitution where this authority comes from. People don't recognize sometimes that the Supreme Court has constraints. And one of those constraints? It's called the Constitution. And it's not just that they're going to do what they think their party wants them to do or whoever appointed them wants them to do. The idea is to look, if you are a textualist, which I think is coming back involved, you know, as a full disclosure, I'm a member of the Federalist Society as an attorney. You know, you want to, you know, there's an old son, I remember from law school, and it's with there's always this argument of who is the best constitution. I remember Ginsburg saying the best constitution is actually a South Africa. It caused a big hullabaloo, and I think rightly so. But that said, you know what? Maybe the Constitution is imperfect. Maybe our system isn't perfect. But you know what? Having a Constitution is better than not having one. At least you got something to look to. And then you have a guiding document that was written by brilliant people and amended and we can amend it as time goes on. That was another part of their brilliance is that you can update it. Let's move on. Campaign finance. I'm going to look at cuts both ways. It was win for a GOP. I don't think anybody in the audience really wants us to tease that out. Let's get to the ones that really matter. They pinned it to danger. That is to say women being potentially injured by men in sports. I think that just came down to a common sense argument. It doesn't take it off the table everywhere. It just punted it back to the states, very much like Roe v. Wade. So, you know, states, if you care that much, you've got to either step up or continue with whatever you're doing, individual states. California allows men and women's sports. If that's what the voters want there, that's what it is. You don't want it. You got to change it at the state level, get to the ballot box. More on that with Jonathan Turley here on Guy Benson. I am Paul Morrow. A fresh perspective on the topics of the day. It's Guy Benson.

to separate themselves a bit from the personalities here. There's been a lot of anger with regard to Amy Coney Barrett because she had voted against the president. In this case, and also she authored the opinion on counting ballots after election day. The fact is, Amy Coney Barrett is a conservative jurist. She often, and more often, votes with the president and conservative values. She's also an independent... thinker. And, you know, the president, when he appointed his three nominees, said he wanted independent, principled nominees. He got them. I mean, to think about it, I know he is really sort of slap back at Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett, who have occasionally voted with the left of the court. His three justices were magnificent. They will go down at some of his most important parts of his legacy. Those three justices are brilliant jurists who have deepened the intellectual concept of this court. Now, that also means that occasionally they disagree with the president on major cases. But he should take great pride in his quality. I've been very critical of the nominee of President Biden, Ketanji Brown Jackson. Right. You know, that is the point of comparison. You know, Jackson... recently said that she didn't like having to look at history to figure out the original meaning of the Constitution, that it's basically easier just to solve problems and deal with whatever contemporary issues there are. That is a very different philosophy from the justices that President Trump appointed. So yes, they disagreed with him, but they remain conservative jurists, and they have a very impressive list of cases to show that. You know, look, this is one of those things that really, if you were watching it closely, was not much of a surprise, including to the president who pushed the issue. To me, it's a victory in a way. First of all, it was closer than anybody expected. But secondly, you know, he got the issue on the table. And now along with the SAVE Act, which is one of the other ways that you can try to fight back against this stuff, now you've got law enforcement and Congress moving. Congress would be better. But as you and I both know, getting Congress to move in unison here is like, you know, 10 tonight. tent amount to flying to Jupiter, but. If you can get law enforcement making the kind of cases against birth tourism here, which apparently have not been a priority, you're going to get a lot of support nationwide. These are baby mills. They house them in these warehouses, these safe houses, primarily in California, but also down south. They have a lot of them coming in from the Caribbean basin. And they're RICO cases. You can make those cases because it's just illegality organized by somebody who runs the location. They're at least conspiracy cases, but would be better. Would it not? want to take you would it be not would not be better to have a statute on point relative to birth tourism do you see anything like that coming or is there a better work around here that we can do to enforce that i'm not seeing

I do think that's cutting. I think Speaker Johnson indicated that that's what they want to do. There are a couple of different bills on the Hill. And the interesting thing about that type of legislation is that it will likely be challenged, but that'll bring it back before the Supreme Court. They fell one vote short. And, you know, Clarence Thomas in the defense said, I don't believe that this... This ruling today will be able to withstand the test of history. Some people noted that it doesn't have to stand the test of a year if the court changes, particularly if there is a new Republican president and we have the addition of one more conservative. They only lost by one vote. Brett Kavanaugh would have voted to strike down the – he did vote to strike down the executive order. But he said that he agrees that birthright citizenship is not in the 14th Amendment. So they are literally one vote short of that. So legislation would give them another. chance to get to the court in the short term. Now, the ultimate solution is the 28th Amendment to actually ban birthright citizenship. Other countries have done that. Countries that did what we did and realized it's an incredibly moronic practice, and they got rid of it. Now, polls currently show that people, when asked, generally support birthright citizenship. But we've never had a national debate on it. This is a debate that has been confined to the courts. Now the courts are out of it, largely, and it's up to the country. So perhaps we should have that debate. Well, I think we'll have that debate, and I think that's why it's important that the president fronted the issue. But I do think that in getting down to the voting public, it's going to get skewed by the media and the Democrats. And you and I both know how you ask the question. is how people perceive what is just. And look, if we had a crystal ball and these people could look into it and see what's really happening with this. That is recently as two years ago, you had one in ten birds in America being foreign born. Then, you know, people would likely say, okay, this is no good. But you know what? I have no faith that we're going to get an amendment. What I'm thinking is a criminal statute, law enforcement, the SAVE Act. Okay, look, we've got to take a quick break, but we're going to hang on to you, whether you like it or not, because we want to talk to you about your book, man. So, folks, stick with us. We've got Jonathan Turley, counselor extraordinaire, constitutional attorney. You see him on the network all the time. We want to talk to him about this great new book he has out. Stick with us.

in for Guy Benson here's paul morrow so folks welcome back paul morrow sitting in for Guy Benson and you have caught us in the lawyer hour and this stuff is so important whether you realize or not we're still a nation of laws and the lawyers have the rule book so we got to talk about this stuff because it affects your life whether you realize it or not but you what you need you need good people to interpret it for you to tell you what it means and where we're going. And we got one of the best here. We got Jonathan Turley on the line. We hung on to him. We chained them to the microphone. So, counselor, tell us about your new book. Well, that's very kind of you. You know, Rage in the Republic is a book about our revolution. Half of the book looks back at what are the unique aspects of the American Revolution, the American Republic. And the other half looks forward as to whether that republic can survive in the 21st century, whether it can survive us. Now, the key about this moment is that we're living in very dangerous times. People are saying that we should trash the Constitution. These are law professors, deans of law school, saying that the Constitution itself is now a threat to the American people. So we're experiencing a crisis of faith at the very moment that we should be celebrating the world's greatest democracy, the oldest, most successful democratic system in history. And the book looks at those issues and looks back at what makes us so unique. Because ours was the first so-called Enlightenment revolution. Enlightenment writers like John Locke. I had been out for a while, but we came together, and this was fascinated the world and created the first revolution based on the simple belief that rights that define us as human beings come from God and not just from the government. And that is still a revolutionary concept. And Europeans talked about us like we were a different species. In the book, I talked about this one Frenchman who wrote a popular book in France. And he asked this question, he said, what then is this America? They really wanted to know. They could understand how people had nothing in common with each other, no real connections to the land, no stratified class or institutions could come together at one point on the globe and create the world's first enlightenment revolution. The question I ask in the book is whether we can answer that question today. Who were we then and who are we now? And if we can't answer that question, maybe we don't deserve another 250 years. But there is an answer. It's just that so many of our fellow citizens have forgotten it.

It's a lack of education. It's a lack of appreciation of how lucky and unique this whole thing is, the American experiment. I'm going to quote a European to you, a surprising one. Bono, lead singer of you too, whether you like that band or not, saw him say one time. The thing that fascinates me and other Europeans about America is that it's not a country as we know it. It's an idea. And watching an idea play out. among 350 million people is really quite something to see, especially when it's so successful. But you know what? They grow up in this country not realizing that we are in fact a new thing and an tremendously successful thing. Imperfect as all governments are. Was it Margaret Thatcher said something like it's the best system out there. It's the worst. Excuse me. Democracy is the worst system out there except for all the others. But we didn't have marbled into us all of the class stuff and the royalty that all of the European nations had a throw off before they could get anywhere near what we were creating and leading on. So let me ask you this. Where is it going? You said the second half of the book talks about how we can continue and where we think it's going. What's our path to success? Well, you know, that is the great challenge in that We are facing, as I'm talking to books, some of the greatest threats and challenges that we have faced as a country. I look at the combination of AI and robotics. I take the most conservative estimates on loss of jobs, and we're looking at a record number of lost jobs. Now, I happen to believe in the free market that we will generate new types of jobs, but it will have to burn off this economy. And during that process, we will have more unemployment than we have seen in many years, perhaps ever, in this country. And that creates real dangers. Now, we happen to be the best suited country to face those dangers. We have a constitution that was built for change. I mean, we've always, as a nation, embraced new technology, new changes. It's part of our character. So we cannot just survive. We can thrive if we keep the system that we have. I was talking about this book in Prague, and there is an EU member who said, you seem very confident about your republic surviving the 21st century, but I'm not sure how you feel about the EU. And I said, I'm really surprised by that, because I thought the book was clear. I don't think the EU will survive. And the reason is that you've destroyed everything I talk about in the book. You've destroyed all those democratic institutions and traditions that we will need. This country has exactly what it takes to succeed. But one of the things I talk about is we have to protect what I call a liberty-enhancing economy. Most people don't know that this is not just the 250th anniversary of our republic. It's also a 250th anniversary of the publication of Adam Smith's wealth of nations that came out at the same time. And the founders immediately embraced it.

It wasn't a big hit in Europe. It was a big hit here because the founders saw his economic theory of free markets as the perfect companion to their political theory. They believe you cannot be free unless you're economically free. So in the book, what I talk about is we can't be a kept citizenry. We can't go into this century and just have a universal basic income where much of our society is being subsidized by the government. It won't work. We need independent citizens for this republic to work. That is the great tension in this thing because you hear even people as thoughtful and learned as Elon Musk talk about a universal guaranteed income because of the potential displacement of jobs due to AI. And I'm wondering as you're talking if we're not going to that model, and AI does take all these information-based jobs off the table, and it already is undeniably. You see Amazon firing people and other big, big firms just laying off tens of thousands of people. What's going to replace it? What are they going to be doing? Even as I know we have the ability to innovate, do you see what the lifeline is here? I do. And one of the things I talk about in the book is Milton Friedman, who I had the pleasure of watching at the University of Chicago. And when I was there, he ruined me for life. And, you know, he has his own view of a universal income system that makes people less dependent. One of the things I talk about in the book, and this is where any listeners, we can determine who got dates in high school. Because if you recognize this name, you clearly did not date at high school. And that is, I refer to what I call Geinen jobs. And Geinen was the bartender on the Starship Enterprise. And he used to drive me crazy when I would watch the episodes, and they would be fighting Ronaldins, and then they'd go to the bar, and Gynan would be standing in front of a replicator, a machine that could make the perfect cocktail over and over again, exactly the same on a molecular level. And yet they would turn to Gynan and have her make the cocktail. And the question I asked in the book is, why? Obviously, the cocktail itself was only part of the reason they were in what's called 10 forward or that bar. The question I asked in the book is, how many jobs are gyman jobs, jobs that we want humans to be part of? And there are a lot of them.

So one I see in the book is that, look, Congress is going to commit all of the mistakes that it always commits. So they already started. As if she read this book, Elizabeth Warren, has already started to do some of the things I talk about in the book. Just recently, she said, I'm going to tax AI and they're going to subsidize dying industries. So we're going to burn billions. We always do. And those jobs aren't coming back. There's going to be fewer taxi drivers. There's going to be fewer radiologists. That's just a fact, Jack. And the fact is that we've never picked winners. Well, every time we try to subsidize an industry, we burn billions without effect. The economy is simply too big for us to direct. It's too complex. And we're going to have to make these choices and pivot to the stuff that works. And as you articulate... We better make those decisions now before we burn so many billions. We can't actually do that. Professor, I don't mean to cut you off, but my producers here are waving the white flag at me that were out of time. Before we go, I wanted to make sure I had time to do this, however. This sounds like a fascinating book. And by the way, if you want to send a freebie up to Fox so that we can talk about it on the radio, I'm not going to tell you no. But that said, tell people where they can find your excellent blog. I read your website all the time. Tell people where they can find you on the web, on X, and where they can get the book. Well, thank you. Rage in the Republic is available on Amazon and all other sites that are stores you go to. It's doing very well, and I appreciate everyone who has purchased it. And I'm also at jonathan-churley.org if you want to check out the block. Jonathan-turley.org. I rip it off all the time, so it sounds like I know what I'm talking about legally on the air. Counselor, we appreciate you as ever. Thank you, my friend. Great spending time with you. And you. Stay with us. We will be right back with Home Stretch where I get to make fun of the producers here, especially Christine. She's got it coming. We'll be right back. Filling in for Guy Benson. It's Paul Morrow.

it's time for your favorite segment of the day. Home stretch. It's basically the only segment I'm on, so I've declared it the audience's favorite segment. Guy Benson. Guys, Paul Morrow here sitting in for the great Guy Benson, and we are in our home stretch where I get to talk to Christine and tell her really what a tragedy she's made of her life. So let's get. You don't even know. I mean, the fact that you're already saying that, and Dylan's down in D.C. Dylan, he doesn't even know the half of it. Paul, I'll just give you one. They gave me a briefing package that you haven't seen. And frankly, I mean, it's shocking. Did he tell you that I woke up at 2 in the morning in Staten Island on Saturday night? Really? I was in Manhattan. Did you know where you were? No. Really? Were you like, you're fully closed? I mean, yes, yes, thank God. Thank God. But yes, my husband and I were enjoying a night out on the town. Apparently. My daughter's up in Cape Cod with her family, my in-laws. And we get into a cab or an Uber. And we're supposed to go to New Jersey. And I wake up. Your first mistake, but anyway. That's where I live. New Jersey's the best. The best. No comment. Anyway, we wake up and we're in Staten Island. Our Uber driver apparently either got lost or he said something about traffic and then I started screaming at him. And now I have a really bad Uber rating. So I want to text him and be like, can you please change it? I'm sorry. I just wasn't supposed to be in Staten Island. And yeah, so that's where I'm. Well, when you're not from this hemisphere and you're driving essentially a cab, Staten Island, New Jersey. What's the diff? I mean, not a whole lot of difference. Well, I'll tell you who's not, I'll tell you one thing. Taylor Swift's not getting married to New Jersey or Staten Island. Oh, no, but apparently you think she is because this whole thing is a diversion because you have such great sourcing. You want to come do the show? Let me hear this now. Why is it that Taylor Swift, who, by the way, we've seen the film now of them loading all the gear in for at least a concert of some sort into Madison Square gone. I walked by yesterday. I did a package with Fox Digital. It's up right now on Fox. It's probably literally the greatest reporting I think of this century so far. I mean, it's early in the century. Forget Jonathan Turley. This is Edward R. Murrow material. You should watch it out. I expect the Pulitzer in the mail quite soon. Why do you think the whole thing is a diversion? Does that make me Katie Couric? I feel like I would definitely be a Katie Couric, a little perky. Yes, you'd be a perfect Katie Couric except for the fact that she's a little abominable. But that said... Well, Dylan, I think... Guy would... I don't see anything not lining up. You don't there, huh? Okay, let me just tell you this before we got to go. I can't see why Taylor Swift would get married in Madison Square Garden. I've been to many of concerts there. It's kind of dreary, and I don't know how much decor you could put in there. It doesn't make any sense. I think this is all just a ruse. Maybe something is going on there, but I'm calling it. I think she's getting married in Rhode Island. Rhode Island? She has a house there. Why? She got a house everywhere. I mean, yes, but she really does love Rhode Island. So, by the way, do you watch the housewives of Rhode Island on Bravo? I'm addicted. I can't watch it. I watch all the housewife shows.

Are you serious? No, of course. Oh, my God, you got me. I was so excited to talk to you about. Housewife shows. Are you kidding me for the love of God? All right. First of all, first of all, yes, it could be a diversion. She has the money to rent out MSG and trick us all. I will tell you this. From what I understand and the permits that have been filed, et cetera, were she to hold it there, she could, all right? Were she to want to do it? She can't do it. Maybe the whole thing is an elaborate ruse. I have heard of another location rumored. where she might do it. Okay. I don't want to say it. Oh, come on. Because if like 10,000 Swifties descend on this place and tear it apart and she's not there or if she is there, then they're going to come sue me, Fox and every place. And by the way, then I'll give them your name. But I can't say it. The place is on Long Island. I'm going to be that vague. If you want to do a little detective work, I have a guess, but I'll say it off there. So, all right, that is what I've heard. But I will tell you that if this is all a head fake, And the police department deploys all kinds of assets there. She better never step on a sidewalk in this town again because they're not going to be happy. And, you know, she's going on some kind of a list that I suspect you're well familiar with that is not a good list to be on. Yeah, a guy always accuses me being on many databases across the country. I think he's probably right. I think you're on some deep dark, deep web list of people to avoid in a dead of night. And look, I'm not the one who woke up. In Staten Island, trying to go to New Jersey. Listen. You did. I was, it wasn't me driving the car. A guy drives for a living and he went to the wrong. How do you wind up in Staten Island when you're in Manhattan to get to New Jersey? I mean, listen, there's a lot of people out there that are listening that probably have no clue where all these boroughs are in New Jersey. Let me just say, you're not missing much. All right. That's all I could say. And I'm making friends all over the area here. You really are. Folks, I love New Jersey. I got relatives over there. Don't take it seriously. I'm just doing it because she's from New Jersey. All right. So one strike. And of course, the devil's played at two strikes. Oh, I love. the devils. And of course, Guy Benson's a Devils fan. Three strikes, you're out. I arrest my case. That's all there is to it. New Jersey actually is almost like the sixth borough of New York. That's right. I said it. That's my Mark Levin. Is that your Mark Levin or your Bob Grant? I actually do a great Mark Levin. You know, that's his, that's just Bob Grant, right? Yeah, his Bob Grant's right. Cut 12, go. Mr. Producer. Mr. Producer, this guy is a statist and a loser.

That's right. I said it. All right. How much more time we have of this tragedy? I think we should go before I get myself in big trouble. Guy Benson does this every day, does he? Oh, every day. That explains that slight wince that he has. All right, guys, listen, that's going to do it for us for today's show, right? We're doing an outro here. This is Paul Morrow sitting in for Guy Benson. First of all, I want to thank Guy. Let him sit in his seat and big seat to fill. Always fun. My thanks to the producer, not so much the one I was just talking to, but... Tune in tomorrow from when we get Tom Shaloo sitting in this seat. Another person taking advantage of the fact that guy is gallivanting around town wherever he is. We are a Guy Benson. All of you enjoy the fourth. I want to have the chance to wish that for you again. So be safe that day. And just remember, 250th birthday of the greatest nation. In human history, don't forget it. I'm Paul Morgan. And now I have a really bad Uber rating, so I want to text him and be like, can you please change it? I'm sorry. I just wasn't supposed to be in Staten Island.

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