Russian attack leaves 1000s in Ukraine without heat in -20C

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tell yourself, your family, your neighbors to have resolved to stay strong if that's how you feel and these are the conditions you're in right now still all these years since the invasion began. You know, we are very tired, but in the same time, I think those of us who stayed in Ukraine, who stayed in Kiev, or in other parts of Ukraine that experienced such terrible attacks, we already went through a lot of hell over last years. We are used to the fact that we have to survive. You have to adjust. You have to adjust your life. How have you adjusted your life? You have a young child, as I understand it. What is day-to-day life like for you? Obviously, you're a politician. You have privileges and resources that others may not, but you are still in the midst of this war also. Absolutely. So for instance, in my place where I live, the lifts are not working when the electricity goes off. So we need to use the stairs. We live on the high floor. So it's always every day we have to walk with my daughter down and up. She can be tired. Then you have to. carry your child and then you cannot really cook or heat anything at home because there is no electricity in our kitchen is connected to electricity. So we have some batteries and we use these batteries for for charging our devices or even for a little bit of heating of the food. So this is how we live. And we have now lead lamps, some electricity, some sun batteries, the small ones. And it helps. We have candles, of course, as well. Your daughter is young. She's only known war. in your country, right? So what do you tell her? And every day, every day she tells me that there is no light, there is no electricity, and that there were three or four sirens today. So she came today from the kindergarten and she said that there was three times siren and they were three times in the shelter during this day. Three times in the bomb shelter in one day? Yes, yes. Yeah. What do you say to her? Well, I say that this is bad things are flying around. They're making things very dangerous to us, so we have to hide.

Do you understand that young age? I think children understand now because this is quite everyone is experienced that we very often don't sleep at night. So children understand. I hear in your voice the resignation, the weariness, the resilience as well and the strength that we've heard in other conversations throughout these years since Russia's invasion of Ukraine. But I wonder if you worry at this stage that this will. force your country's hand or you know as as peace talks continue or get underway again that that they they might yield in the end and have to give up things that they did not want to I don't think that we will be forced to something that we don't want but I'm not well I'm sure that Russia doesn't want to end war and this is the main problem So when do you think it will end? How do you think it will end? I have no idea. There is no light in the end of the tunnel at this stage. Lisa Yasko, I appreciate this. Please take care. Thank you. Lisa Yasko is a Ukrainian MP. She's in Kiev.

July 4th this year will mark the 250th year of American independence. It will also be the day that the John F. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center for the Performing Arts in Washington, D.C. will close its doors for an extensive renovation. That surprise announcement came in a social media post from the President of the United States this weekend. The same president of the United States who named himself the chairman of the center last year, presiding over a board of trustees who voted unanimously to change the venue's name to the Trump Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center. That name change requires congressional approval before it's official, but they've gone ahead and changed the sign anyway. In response, high-profile artists and companies have canceled their scheduled performances. Mr. Trump's planned renovations will come less than a decade after an extensive expansion known as The Reach, the first change to the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center in almost 50 years. Architect Stephen Hall designed that expansion. We reached him in Rinebeck, New York. Stephen, as someone who is intimately involved with, connected to the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center, what did you think when you heard that it is going to be closed for a renovation on Trump's orders as of July 4th? Well, I think the whole situation is quite absurd, and it's one of the manipulation, you know. I mean, I think it's kind of a cover for the fact that so many artists have left, you know, and refused to participate since his illegal renaming of the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center, which, by the way, has 2 million visitors a year and over 2,000 programs a year. You know, people have just stayed away. There's been a wave of cancellations by artists and leading musicians, including the great composer Philip Glass, you know, and because he said the values of the center today are in direct conflict with his message. And last month, we saw the departure of the Washington National Opera. So I think what we're witnessing is Trump's staky effort to cover up what's actually happening. which is the cancellation and the protest against the lack of artistic freedom. So many artists, Issa Ray, Hamilton was supposed to be there. We've talked about others. I'll play for you and our listeners a little bit of what he said in the Oval Office yesterday about why he wants to do this. We're going to close it, and we're going to make it unbelievable, far better than it ever was. I'm not ripping it down, and I'll be using the steel. So we're using the structure. We're using some of the marble, and some of the marble comes down, and we'll do it right. We're using the highest grade marbles, the highest grade everything. It'll be brand new. But as anybody knows, it was in very bad shape, wasn't kept well before I got there. So we're going to make it, I think there won't be anything like it in the country. The steel, marbles, bad shape, he says, you saw it. What do you? I mean, it's...

It's typical of Trump's false information. You know, I mean, the man is a master of lies. You know, up on the top floor, they just opened a brand new permanent, inspiring installation in the 1971 building called Art and Ideals, President John F. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. I mean, what's he going to do? Tear that down and replace with some sort of, I don't know, propaganda about his? his position. This is really a propaganda condition. You know what? It's comparable. It's comparable to the 1934 party control of artistic unions initiated by Stalin. Stalin suppressed the avant-garde and experimental theater, music, and film. And understolen, the cultural leadership was in the primitive and vulgar hands of his appointed committee, similar to what Trump has done to the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center board. He dismissed all these intelligent and important figures that were running the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center in a way, you know, in a democratic way representing culture of the United States of America. And he replaced them with his hand-picked, you know. Bronies. I mean, it's really... A kind of tragic thing, you know. The parallel that you mentioned there when you talked about Stalin, you wrote about that in an editorial last year to remind our listeners, Trump has issued executive orders declaring that all new federal buildings be neoclassical in style. We've talked about the East Wing on our show as well. People can like neoclassical architecture, but it's a different thing that you're saying. Underline for our listeners what you mean, what the difference you're seeing here is. Well, this is a suppression of freedom in the arts. You know, I mean, this is, you know, we've seen tyrannical regimes. Hitler and the Nazis, 1935 to 1933 to 45, and the Stalin, the Soviet system, 32 to 53. They both had a totalitarian banning of modern art and culture. They attempted to replace it with classicism and social realism. I mean, it's a... kind of a manipulation of culture at its heart. You know, it's a tragic situation. And I think there needs to be some resistance from the American public. We can't just be silent about this. This is, this is about values. This is not about steel and marble. This is about culture values. And the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center, by the way. was the cultural soul of Washington, D.C. What is lost in a country, in a culture, in a society, when that kind of creativity is not allowed to flourish? What is lost? Listen, yeah, I'll tell you, it's serious what is lost. When we proposed the reach expansion of the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center, we included JFK's statement on culture, like the quotes that are engraved in the 1971 building. And one of them,

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says, the life of the arts is very close to the center of our nation's purpose. Now, I mean, what could be more on target than that? The life of the arts is very close to the center of our nation's purpose, which is freedom. You know, America, you know, the Statue of Liberty. I mean, we have to fight for our country. How should people fight and resist or push back on a decision like this one specifically? In every way that each individual has the mind to. But to sit quietly and let this kind of multiple attacks on culture, the environment, no president in history has ever attacked higher education in America. This is the first time. When I keep comparing this to the Nazis and the Soviet system under Stalin, I think it's pretty clear. That's the direction we're going. It's a tyrannical operation by a dictator. Stephen, I'm glad we could speak, and I can hear in your voice how deeply you care about this structure and others across the country. Thank you for this. Thank you. Bye-bye. We reached architect Stephen Hall in Reinbeck, New York.

Summer Decker has done her fair share of medical imaging. Probably more than her share, actually, since she's the 3D imaging director at the University of Southern California's Keck School of Medicine. And mostly, as you might expect, she works with modern humans. Recently, though, Ms. Decker's team got a request from the people behind the traveling mummies of the world exhibition. Would they consider using the hospital's tools to look at two Egyptian mummies? They definitely would. So the team got to work using CT scanners and 3D printers to do virtual autopsies of the mummies. The results go on display this weekend as part of the exhibition's return to Los Angeles, and that is where we reached Summer Decker. Summer, I could barely look at the photographs in the reporting with the mummy going through the CT scanner. But for you, was this a dream day at the office? It really was. My normal day is helping out with our traditional modern patients. And so we use these same tools every day, you know, doing these scans and then doing computer modeling and 3D printing for our patients. But to be able to do a patient that was over 2,000 years old and then two of them was really a dream day. And what the hospital actually didn't know was that when I started school in college, I actually studied mummies and imaging. So when this opportunity came up, They said, well, who do we know? And they brought me in. And I was like, oh, I remember this exhibit. I helped when it first started many, many years ago. So this has been like the most full circle moment for me to be able to use the new tools that we have to be able to analyze them. I want to talk about those tools and what they were able to do. And also the logistics of putting a mummy through a secret scanner in a moment. But, you know, how did this request? come into you. What did the team at the exhibit say they needed your help with? Yes. So when the California Science Center knew that this exhibit was starting to come here, they had, they were going to be bringing because it really does show mummies from around the world. And I think that sometimes people don't realize that there are mummies from all over different parts of the world, some naturally done, some. you know, done on purpose. And so they knew that they were going to have two new mummies added to this exhibit to Egyptian mummies and that they hadn't been studied in a long time and I think almost 30 years that they had not been studied with imaging. And so they asked our hospital here at Keck Medicine of USC whether or not we would be available and open to working on doing a CT scan for them. But they didn't realize is that we had a whole 3D team here. with backgrounds in mummy imaging. So we were able to do a really high resolution scan for them and then start doing a virtual autopsy like analysis to go below the layers of all of that wrapping and everything in the CT scan and look and see what's going on below that. So this exceeded. their requests or in their hopes even. Oh, yes. And in fact, I, because it was such an amazing opportunity, I really pushed the scanner. And I think each mummy ended up with when we were done scanning with about 25,000 images per mummy because we really wanted to capture as much detail. And what it allowed us do is really scan at 0.5 millimeters. So really, really, really tiny, tiny details. And so that way we can look at every single structure in the body.

the wrappings, the artifacts that were in there in a high resolution, unlike we've been able to do before. And that's really important because since the beginning of this exhibition, a lot of technologies change. Science has changed. So this is the first time being able to do that and giving us the opportunity to use these new tools. Let's zoom in on one of the mummies you were able to take a look at and analyze. Nesman. What were you able to learn about Nesman? Nessman was really interesting because he actually died fairly young. He was in his 40s from our understanding. And what we found in Nessman was that he had some broken ribs and it had healed when he was much younger. But what was probably the most interesting finding was that in his spine and his lower back or the lumbar spine. He had a collapsed vertebra and some, you know, issues there. And that would have caused him to have lower back pain. And a lot of modern people have lower back pain. So it's something that modern person can actually relate to. You're like, oh, yeah, I've had that or I know someone who's had that. And then what we found is we were going through those really high resolution scans is we found in multiple locations, these holes that look manmade, holes that were. that we're right now still investigating to see if it's a potential. example of some surgical intervention. Maybe the people back then when he was alive were trying to help relieve some of that pain. I would imagine that there are some things that are easier about scanning a mummy as opposed to the humans that you deal with. You don't have to worry about not being still, you know, as people you have to tell them to stay still and not panic. But what are the challenges? I mean, we're talking about artifacts. What kinds of challenges does that pose for someone in your position? I think that It's really interesting because as you start looking at the challenge of bringing them through from removing them from the exhibit, bringing them, you know, in a vehicle, making sure that we don't cause any damage that hasn't happened in the last 2,000 years. And so even from putting them on gurneys, putting them on the scanner itself, but also while we had them on the scanner, making sure we got the best imaging we could so that we don't have to do this again at some point, you know, anytime. We got all the information we needed to have. Any close calls, be honest, almost. Oh, no. I am so careful. And I also do not want to be responsible for 2,000 years of survival. But no, we all. Everything was done like really beautifully orchestrated. And that was exciting. But, you know, looking at the images as they were coming off, I will say the one thing that was interesting on the scanning itself was we were doing so many images that our computers were even having a hard time because this was so high-res that the scanner itself was like, ooh.

We need a little time out here. And it made me smile because we were really pushing the scanner hard. And the computer system that we transfer the data was really was like, this is a lot of data that you guys are doing. So it took us a while to get all the data off the scanner itself. But we immediately, while we were scanning the second mummy, started analyzing the first mummy. Summer, I'm very glad we could speak. Thank you for this. Oh, no. Thank you guys for having interest in this. And it's an ongoing investigation, which really makes it exciting. I'm sure we'll speak again then, Summer. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Summer Decker is the 3D imaging director with the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California. We reached her in Los Angeles. We have to take a brief break now. When we come back, the Rafa crossing is open again, but only a limited number of people are being allowed to cross. Nevertheless, Mona Al-Absi is very much hoping. She and her two young children will be able to pass through, not out of Gaza, but back into it. And you may have seen the pictures of civil rights lawyer, Nikima Levy Armstrong, the one in which she's being arrested and crying. She tells us she was surprised when the White House posted it because she didn't cry when she was arrested. That photo was doctored. Stay tuned. I'm Chris Howden. And I'm Neil Kirksal.

Uncover from CBC Podcasts is your source for exceptional storytelling and groundbreaking journalism. Unveil the shocking secrets of one of Canada's most prolific fashion moguls. He far exceeds Jeffrey Epstein. He far exceeds Bill Cosby. And dive into the unsolved murders of two Canadian billionaires. This is a perfect storm of conspiracy theory. It's got all the ingredients, none of the answers. With new episodes released weekly, You'll hear the very best in award-winning true crime. Listen to Uncover wherever you get your podcasts. Hardly anyone is being allowed through, but for Palestinians cut off from the outside world, it's a lifeline. Yesterday, Israel opened up the Rafa border crossing between Gaza and Egypt as part of the ceasefire deal. The crossing has largely been closed for the past two years. Israel took control of it in 2024 and barred anyone from entering or exiting. Now tens of thousands of Palestinians are hoping to either be evacuated for treatment or to return home. But on the first day, only a few people were allowed to leave Gaza for medical care. and about a dozen were allowed to reenter the territory. That is far less than Israel originally promised. Mona Al-Absi is hoping to return home to Gaza. She's one of the few people who was able to travel to Egypt during the war after her son was injured. We reached her in Cairo. Mona, I know you're still assessing things and trying to decide when it would be a good time for you to try to get back into Gaza. What are you hearing from people who tried yesterday? Actually, before yesterday, we were really excited and we were really hoping to get back to Gaza safely. But after we heard the news yesterday and we heard from the people who crossed yesterday, It was really frustrating, disappointing for us, what happened with them. When the militia and the IDF humiliated them, even the elderly people, they were really real harsh with them. I know there's a lot of stories people are sharing, you know, the few people that were able to go in and those who were able to go out. But specifically, did you speak to people who told you what happened? Actually, I didn't speak to anyone, but I saw the news on social media, but I don't know any of them, actually. And what is also frustrating that 50 people were allowed to cross the Rafah crossing and get back together, but that was supposed. to be crossing, but only 12 managed to return to Gaza. The other 38, we don't know what happened to them yet. They returned them back to the Egyptian side. So you mentioned that excitement and the hope that came with that excitement. Are those gone for you now, or are you still hopeful?

There is some hope, but the fear is overwhelming, actually, because we don't know what are they going to do with us if we manage to go there. Why did you leave? What was specifically happening with your family? Actually, I didn't evacuate to flee the war. It was because my son was injured. And after his injury, we encountered a very serious problem in his kidneys. So I had to evacuate from there to get him better treatment. The devices, the medical devices and equipment there, they don't heal and treat his condition. I hear your children in the background. How old are they? Yes. I have two kids. The elder one is seven years and the youngest one is four. And so your son is a seven year old? Yeah, he's a seven years old. The sick one is seven years old. How is he doing now? He's much better. He's much better. But he still needs some treatment. But he's much more bitter than we were before. How was he injured? In February, actually today is the second anniversary of the bombing we had. In February 24, we were sleeping at 11 p.m., they bombed the place. It's like a tent. Actually, they forced us to get back from Gaza and go to Rafah. So we went to Rafah and they said it's a safe place. And after they said it's safe, we went there in February 24, they pumped the place. I lost my sister and two of her kids. I lost my sister-in-law's little daughter. Four of us were killed in that day. My son was injured, my mother, my mother-in-law, and too many people were injured in that day. Gaza is home, of course. But you've been through so much. You know, if you wanted, if you did not want to go back, people would understand. Why do you want to go back? First of all, my husband is there. My mom is there. My family. All my family, all my sisters are there. I'm here alone with my kids. So.

So I can't, first I can't provide for my kids here while I'm with them alone. And I can't stay awake from my husband for this long time, especially he wants to see his kids and he can't get out from Gaza. Gaza is my homeland. It's your homeland. How long have you been apart from your husband now? A year. How is he doing in your home? He's alright, not right now. But they faced a lot of bad days, especially in the days of starvation. They didn't have food to eat. Sometimes they didn't have water to get clean or to clean the kids, my sisters, for example, they didn't have any water to clean their kids to clean their kids to wash them. So it was a very, very sad moments and life was rush that was harsh on that time. Do you feel that... Even with these conditions, it's still, it's better than it was. Right now, it's better. Right now it's better. Sometimes they bomb some places, but it's much more better. Five months ago, they didn't have any kind of meat or protein or anything to eat. They were only eating lentils and stale bread and...

In that time. That must have been difficult for you to know while you were in Cairo. Yeah. It was really, really bad. We were really feeling bad. Me and my kids here, we were eating. We were drinking. We were getting out. We were going to play. But there is no playgrounds. There is no food. That time was really harsh on them and on us. I, you're having to make just impossible choices and impossible decisions even still now, even now. Are you, what do you know about the kind of medical attention your son will be able to get if you go back? Are you worried about that? I'm a little bit worried about the medical condition, but I, hopefully, I'm hoping that that they can, get some medical equipment for Gaza to get inside Gaza and some medicines that can heal his problem and other people's problems. So few people have been allowed in, as you were saying, when do you think you might be able to go back to Gaza? I don't know, actually. This is something ambiguous for me right now. I hope before the middle of February, but I think it's difficult. Mona, I appreciate this. I know you have your hands full. Please take care. Thank you. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Mona Alabsi is hoping to return to Gaza with her two children. We reached her in Cairo.

The repercussions of Renee Good's killing have landed on Donald Trump's doorstep. Today, the brothers of the Minneapolis woman who was killed by an ICE agent were in Washington to speak about their sister in front of lawmakers. Here's Ms. Goode's brother, Luke Granger. I was talking to my four-year-old last week when she noticed I was not doing well. I had to come here today and talk to some important people. She knows that her aunt died and that somebody caused it to happen. She told me that there are no bad people and that everyone makes mistakes. She has nays spirit. The deep distress our family feels because of Ney's loss is in such a violent and unnecessary way is complicated by feelings of disbelief, distress, and desperation for change. In the last few weeks, our family took some consolation, thinking that Perhaps Ney's death would bring about change in our country, and it is not. The completely surreal scenes taking place on the streets of Minneapolis are beyond explanation. Our family is a very American blend. We vote differently. And we rarely completely agree on the finer details of what it means to be a citizen of this country. And despite those differences, we have always treated each other with love and respect. And we've gotten even closer during this very divided time in our country. And we hope that our family can be even a small example to others not to let political ideals divide us to be good like Renee. But the most important thing we can do today is to help this panel and our country understand who Ney is. And what a beautiful American we have lost. That was Luke Granger talking about his sister Renee Good, who was killed by an ICE agent. On the day Ms. Good was killed, we spoke with Minneapolis activist Nekima Levy Armstrong. And then a couple of weeks later, she was arrested by Homeland Security and FBI agents after protesting at a church in St. Paul. That same day, the White House released a photo of her being detained, in which she appears to be crying hysterically as someone with a badge holds her hands behind her back. It's true that Ms. Levy Armstrong was arrested. It's not true that she was crying. The photo posted by the White House was manipulated. In the original image, she looks quite calm. She was released the next day but still faces charges of conspiring to obstruct a place of worship. We reached Nekima Levi-Armstrong in Minneapolis. Nakima, when that original photo was taken, you were being taken from the courthouse to the county jail. What do you remember about those moments? I remember.

feeling enslaved. And that was because the U.S. Marshals had placed three sets of shackles on my body and another organizer's body. So we had shackles on our ankles. shackles around our waist as well as shackles around our wrists. They weren't normal handcuffs. They had some kind of a board in between. And I remember thinking, you know, this is the closest to slavery I've ever felt. What were you saying to yourself, if anything, in your mind as you're walking? This is absolutely absurd. And it's ridiculous. And it's, overreach by the government, and this is an attempt to silence me from speaking out about the atrocities being committed by ICE. And how did you come to find out about the photograph that the White House posted, the doctored image? After we were taken to jail, it took a few hours for them to allow us to make a phone call. And so I called my lawyer first. And then I was able to call my husband. And that is when my husband told me that the doctored image by the White House had been released. So I did not see the image initially. He described it. And it was almost unbelievable when he told me that they released an altered image of me crying because that couldn't have been further from the truth in terms of my demeanor throughout the entire ordeal. And I thought, am I that much of a threat to the world's greatest superpower? They couldn't break me. And so they altered an image showing me broken. Your lawyer just recently filed a motion trying to change the conditions of your release. He cites in that filing the doctored image, the posts by federal officials. How do you think it might impact your case, that photo and the attention on it? Well, I think that any jurist should be able to look at that photo and to understand that I am being. prosecuted for political reasons and that this is a form of retaliation against me by the Trump administration. And so I'm hoping that the judge that oversees the case will see that and will understand that and will ensure that, you know, I receive the justice that I deserve. These charges should be dropped, not only against me, but against the other eight defendants in this case. When you were arrested, you were accused of obstructing a place of worship. Kristi Noem has alleged, at least in her posts on social media, that you played a key role in orchestrating that protest and that the protest was obstructing people from practicing their religion. What brought you to the church in St. Paul that day? Well, number one, I want to say if Kristi Noem is concerned about someone...

being obstructed from practicing their religion, then she needs to hold herself, Donald Trump and the Department of Justice accountable for rolling back protections for churches. And as a matter of fact, the whole reason undergirding the protest was to raise awareness about a man by the name of David Easterwood, who is a pastor as city's church, but also serves as a regional director for ICE in Minnesota. And contrary to right-wing talking points, we didn't storm the church. We came in and sat down and participated in the worship service. And it was after the pastor's prayer that I stood up, I was sitting at the back of the congregation. I stood up and I recited a part of the pastor's prayer back to him, which was for God to chasten them and help them to get their house in order. And I asked him, is this what you just prayed? And he said, correct. And I said, well, help me understand how is David Easterwood, a pastor here and the director of the ICE office in St. Paul? And as soon as I mentioned David Easterwood's name, The pastor said, shame, shame over the pulpit because presumably he didn't want the congregation to know about David Easterwood's dual role. And so once I realized that he did not want to engage me in a dialogue about David Easterwood, then at that point I started to chant justice for Renee Good. And that is when the other protesters stood up with me and began to chant. So it was a peaceful, nonviolent protest meant to inform the congregation of what was happening and the fact that one of their pastors. plays a huge role in a lot of the terror that is impacting residents across the state of Minnesota. We should mention that we reached out to the White House, Homeland Security, and the FBI for comment on your case. Only the FBI responded and said they could not comment. But you mentioned Renee Good, of course, and our listeners just heard from her brother a few moments ago. You were on our show in the immediate aftermath of Renee Goods killing by an ICE agent. And you told us at the time, you know, you're going to the vigil, but there was no way really to guarantee at that point the safety of people who continue to protest. Given what you've been through already. And you're a civil rights lawyer, as we've said, a vocal activist. You've been involved in another protests in the past. But at this point, you know, you have four children as well. What kinds of decisions? are you making to try to be able to continue to do what you want to do, but also remain safe? The reality is that at any point, any of us can be a target. Renee Good was a mother of three. And even though I had to spend the night in jail unjustly and I wanted to get back to my children, particularly my youngest child who was eight years old, I thought about the fact that because of...

the egregious and brutal actions of these ICE officers, Renee Good's children will never see her again. So they understand that and my children cheer me on. They pray for me and they cheer me on because they know that someone needs to stand up. Nikima, I appreciate this. Thank you for coming back on the show. Thank you for having me. Nakima Levy Armstrong is an activist and civil rights lawyer. We reached her in Minneapolis. In January, there were 51 confirmed cases of measles in Manitoba, the highest number in a single month since last spring. The majority of the cases are among unvaccinated people in southern Manitoba. Kyle Penner serves as a co-pastor of Grace Mennonite Church in Steinbeck, and in that role, he's been talking to people in his community about vaccine hesitancy. In my experience, those people who are under-vaccinated or experience vaccine hesitancy usually have had bad experiences with people in authority, either government or health or education or family or religious or somewhere. And so they actually trust themselves and their own sources rather than external sources that we would trust. Similar to during the COVID-19 pandemic, shame and blame are not really great motivators. None of us really like to be shamed and blamed, and we don't, that's probably not our first move. When for any difficult conversation where people might disagree about the best actions, I always say this. Number one is establish that we're on the same team. We all want happy, healthy lives and for our communities. We might have different understandings of how to get there, different paths. And so, but if we can establish we're on the same team, then we're not enemies. then we're friends and we're neighbors and we're family, working towards the same goal. I was going to ask as a last question, as you've been in conversation with people about COVID, you know, and vaccinations at that time, what's the difference between those conversations around vaccines and vaccine hesitancy are people's choices and so much then and now? Yeah, so the difference is like we're all back. If we wanted to be vaccinated, we can be now, right? So that helps. We also know that there's, that the Musil's vaccine has been tested for decades and it works. Part of the vaccine conversation over COVID was the new MRNA vaccine, which I think's great, but that was a new, it was a new thing. And some people are afraid of trying new things. I understand that. And other than that, I think one of the things that's interesting is I've often wondered if we went back to a significant pandemic again, what we would all do. And I think we'd all line up in exactly the same camps. We would just get there quicker and we'd be angrier, faster. And so I think part of this one for me, and I think for most of my communities, we're not talking about it front and center because for most of us, our personal safety isn't at risk. Our hospitals aren't being overrun. And also there's this piece where I think we all just need a little bit of time to heal. And remember that those of us who choose differently are still good people who still love their families and still love their communities. And those of us, and that's an important part of this, I think, as well. That was Kyle Penner, a co-paster at Grace Mennonite Church in Steinbeck, talking to Marcy Marcusa on Information Radio on Winnipeg.

We've seen countless fashion how-to magazine tutorials, fashion bloggers on YouTube, and now influencers on TikTok and Instagram. But before all of that, there was Oli Bone. In the 1930s, Ms. Bone was a teenager on Bell Island, Newfoundland and Labrador, where it seems she meticulously kept a scrapbook, filled with the latest trends in fashion. She called the journal Every Woman's Notebook, and it recently found its way into the hands of Ellen Power. Ms. Power is an archive technician at the rooms museum. She's been exploring Oli's inner world through her fashion journal. We reached her in St. John's. Ellen, when this first lands in front of you, this journal, what did you think you were going to find when you started flipping through its pages? Well, it's funny. It's quite an unassuming little book, really. It's leather bound. You know, it looks like it's from the 1910s, which the ledger originally is. There's fabric, sort of flaking off the cover a little bit. But then when you open it up, it's got this whole treasure trove. It's not just the coal ledger that you expect it to be. It's a whole cornucopia of knitting patterns and fashion designs. It's very eye-catching. And so this was a coal ledger that belonged to Ole Bones' father originally. So, I mean, it sounds like what it was. You know, people keep track of the coal that is delivered and to which customer. Am I right? Yeah. So it's just sort of lines and lines of handwritten notations, the addresses, a little tick to say which delivery guy delivered it. And then it's all this lovely ink and handwriting. And then... About 15 years later, his daughter started scrapagging it. So she's got all of these lovely pictures, just pasted right in on top of the handwriting. Sometimes you can even see the handwriting peeking through around the heads of the fashion figures. What an artifact, and how wonderful that they reused it and that she transformed it in this way. She gave it a new title, too. Yes, she clicked out a headline from a paper that said every woman's notebook and then stuck it right in the front cover and signed her name in five different stylish ways underneath it. As one does. Do you think that, I mean, she would have ever imagined or wanted it to be shared with every woman or really was it just for her? I'm not sure. I wondered a lot when I was looking through it, you know, did she ever go back and take a look at the fashion illustrations and the knitting patterns? Did she ever make anything out of it? I sort of figured it was something just for herself. But it seems like, you know, I've done a little research about her. She was a very creative and artistic girl. She did well in English and art at school. So I imagine that... People around her already knew that about her, that she was the kind of person who'd make something creative like this. And what did you see in those pages that taught you more about her?

Well, you kind of get a glimpse into the life of a teenager in Belle Island, Newfoundland, right? You get this, you know, it's the 1930s you might think, oh, you know, teens didn't have the kind of mass media that they had today. But there's all these different women's magazines from different countries, so there were some from Britain, there were some from Canada, which was a separate country at the time, there were some from the U.S. So you see this teen who's interested in fashion. She's collecting these fashion magazines from all over. You know, she's kind of envisioning herself what she'll be like as an adult because most of the knitting patterns are women's knitting patterns, right? Sure. What was her sense of style like? What are some of the outfits, either she was pictured in or cut pictures out of that she was, you know, loving? Well, it's very, you know, if you think about 1930s Hollywood. It's sort of 1932 to 36. So that... sleek sort of art deco lines and big shoulders. They were into things like, you know, epaulettes and puffy shoulders and little frills, all that kind of stuff. So very much old Hollywood glam. And it's such a different life than what she was living when you think about it, right? Yeah, I guess so, but then you think about, you know. Like I said, Newfoundland, we think of it as a bit of a remote place now, but of course they had the radio, they had the newspaper. Bell Island was an industrial center, so there were ships coming and going that went to different ports all over. So I guess it was, she was getting all this culture from all over right to her little home in Bell Island. And of course, like teens everywhere. Sure. She probably imagined herself a big city life somewhere. Of course she did. Of course. Would she have been important, you know, getting these delivered? Was she subscribing to these magazines from other places? Or would that have been prohibitively expensive? How were teens like Oli getting this content? Well, that much... it still sort of remains a mystery to me where they came from. I wonder because obviously she recycled her father's 15-year-old coal ledger. I wonder if these are magazines that other people in her family had that sort of got passed down to her. Or, you know, she was a teenager. Maybe she helped herself to them from her family's reading collection. As one does. It really does. I mean, some people use Pinterest or they have vision boards or mood boards. This is all of that in this beautiful leather-bound book. Yes, I've very much been describing it as a 1930s Pinterest. What an artifact to have in your hands. Do you know about what happened to Oli as she grew up after her teen years? Yeah, well, I was fortunate enough to speak to her nephew who donated this book to the archives. And she went on to St. John. She finished high school in St. John's, and then she went on in the late 30s to train as a nurse at the Halifax Infirmary. Later, she worked as a nurse in Ottawa. She was briefly assistant superintendent of nurses in Newfoundland. But I think she spent most of her time working in Winnipeg.

So she continued being a nurse for her whole career. And she did get to travel. Does her family, I know you gave a talk about it, about the journal, the book recently, some of her surviving family members were able to join you. Did they tell you, I mean, was she always their fashionable relatives? Is that something she kept up as she grew up? Yes, I did speak to her nephew, Harry, who said he remembered when she came home to Belle Island for visits, and he remembered that she was always very well put together. And she had kind of an aura of glamour because, you know, she'd been all over Canada. She eventually traveled to Europe a bit. So she had this, you know, horror of mystery, I guess, when she came home to visit. But always very well dressed, very well put together. Ellen, I'm very glad we could speak. Thank you for this. Oh, it's been a pleasure to share Oli's story a little more. Ellen Power is an archivist at the rooms in St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador. That's where we reached her.

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