The President’s ‘Peace Through Strength’ Approach Faces Another Test

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Friday, October 17th, 2025. I'm Jessica Rosenthal. How will President Trump's belief in peace through strength apply to Russia moving forward as the president of Ukraine is scheduled to visit the White House at the end of this historic week? He may, I think, have arrived at the place that he thinks Vladimir Putin will only understand threats of force and giving Ukraine more of what they need to make that a reality. Fox News Sunday anchor Shannon Breen. And Lisa Brady, there's a crackdown on what federal officials call a national emergency, truckers who aren't properly licensed. How these individuals got trained, got their commercial driver's licenses, started hauling 80,000-pound trucks across the nation is a mystery to a lot of us. And I'm Carol Markowitz. I've got the final word on the Fox News Rundown. Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky is due at the White House today. As President Trump caps off a historic week, can he do what he did in the Middle East now with Russia and Ukraine? On his way to Israel last weekend, he told reporters he would consider selling longer-range missiles to Ukraine. Do they want to have Tomahawks going in their direction? I don't think so I think I might speak to Russia about that in all fairness. I told that to President Volodymyr Zelensky because Tomahawks are a new step of aggression. And Thursday, he did speak with Russia's president Vladimir Putin in a lengthy call. White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt told Fox's America reports it was a productive conversation. Vladimir Putin congratulated the president on his success in the Middle East. They also discussed, of course, the Russia-Ukraine war, and they have agreed to convene a meeting of their high-level staff next week to continue these very important discussions, which may be followed by yet another meeting between President Trump and President Vladimir Putin. The president said in a truth social post he and Vladimir Putin would meet in Budapest. Hungary, and then Hungary's Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, confirmed that he spoke with President Trump over the phone in preparation for a potential meeting. The president confirmed the plan in the Oval Office later Thursday afternoon, but said of Volodymyr Zelensky and Vladimir Putin. I mean, we have a problem. They don't get along too well those, and it's sometimes tough to have meetings, so we may do something where we're separate, but separate but equal. Now, as for Tomahawk missiles for Ukraine? We need Tomahawks for... The United States of America, too. We have a lot of them, but we need them. I mean, we... We can't deplete for our country. So, you know, they're very vital. They're very powerful. They're very accurate. They're very good. But we need them too. He said he thought because of his relationship with Vladimir Putin that solving this conflict would have happened more quickly. He will talk about the eight, nine different conflicts that he's helped to bring some kind of resolution to. Shannon Ream is Fox News Sunday anchor and the host of the Live in the Ream podcast. We spoke midday Thursday. We all. pray and hope that in the Middle East, this holds together in phase two plays out in the way that everybody promised. But yeah, the president thought that Ukraine, Russia, as he talked about on the campaign trail, would be the first thing he got done. You can see his growing frustration. At times it's been with Volodymyr Zelensky, at times it's been with Vladimir Putin. So now Volodymyr Zelensky is back for a visit at the time the president is talking tough again with Vladimir Putin and about what we may give or at least facilitate a sale to Ukraine of weaponry.

will be very helpful in helping them to advance their position. You know, it's interesting to me that very few things in Congress, especially in the Senate, have any kind of bipartisan support. But we've talked about this numerous times. There is an 80 plus sponsor package of new sanctions against Russia and countries that do business with Russia sitting in the Senate. waiting for action. And yet they're waiting on the president to say that he would actually sign it or he's okay with them moving it forward at this point. So he has other tools in the box with Vladimir Putin. And I'll be interested after this meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky today if he decides to give the go ahead to the Senate. The president has been talking a lot about the notion of peace through strength, especially after dealing with Hamas and being in the Middle East. Do you think that's in his... And we don't know what's in his thoughts until he says them. But do you think that's part of the consideration here, the notion that Russia needs to be dealt with with a similar philosophy if the president does authorize longer range weaponry to be sold to Ukraine? Yeah, I think you make a great point. And whether people like the way he's getting things done or not, there is often a lot of force or threat of forces that's involved there. And remember the disastrous meeting that Volodymyr Zelensky had back in February, I believe it was at the White House, maybe a little bit later. in which the president said to him, you don't have any cards. You hold no cards here at the table. You've got to actually come willing to make some concessions to get this thing done. Well, now that he sees Vladimir Putin is not playing along with that game, the president's been increasingly vocal about giving Volodymyr Zelensky or, like I said, facilitating getting to Volodymyr Zelensky what he needs to actually be more combative with Vladimir Putin. And this is at the same time President Trump has lamented how many people are dying every week in this. conflict that just drags on. And we know how difficult winter is and what that means to these battlefield operations as well. So he may, I think, have arrived at the place that he thinks Vladimir Putin will only understand threats of force and giving Ukraine more of what they need to make that a reality. It was also a really momentous week in the Middle East. We know things are fragile with Hamas and Israel. But as far as what comes next, if all things... sort of hold. We see that Hamas right now is killing Palestinians, accusing some of collaborating with Israel. We know this peace plan eventually calls for an international stabilization force. But do we know when such a force would even be inside of Gaza? Right now, Hamas, what's left of it is still in charge. There are so much still to be done as we talk through this. Great progress, great relief for the living hostages to be home, great joy. But I think a lot of cautious optimism about where you go next because when you do have so many players, the Arab states, you've got Turkey and so many different potential stakeholders in moving this thing forward. I think everybody knows that a vacuum is a dangerous thing. And as you said, Hamas technically still kind of running the show there in Gaza. leaves a lot of room for error and for trouble. And so how quickly this can come together. I mean, the fact that the president was there was in Egypt. He stopped and that was clearly part of his visit there was to rally everybody around this next phase of moving forward. I think they're going to want to move very quickly. And what that looks like, I think, is still being hammered out. But there's so much rebuilding to do in the devastation there. And the people are going to look to anyone who seems like they have power to get them.

anything, food, electricity, shelter. And you want the, quote, good guys in the region who want to rebuild and bring stability there to be the ones who are showing up as quickly as possible. To the south of us, things are really heating up with Venezuela after this latest bombing of what the administration says was a boat full of drugs and traffickers. I think this was like the sixth boat so far the administration's taken out. Now the president's confirming that he authorized a clandestine operation for inside of Venezuela. He says we are considering taking out cartels on land inside the country, not just at sea. It feels like things are escalating. How much more? might things escalate, given what we know about what Venezuela currently consists of. Yeah, and I wonder how much of that is for public consumption. I think that's clearly part of it, or how much of it is actual planning and actually something that we would do on the ground. You remember there were discussions months ago about the U.S. potentially doing this using military, using other law enforcement to kind of, you know, test the boundaries of doing this on land in Mexico. I mean, we share a border with them, and the argument was going to be that there was an actual threat. that needed to be addressed militarily, potentially on land. You know, lawmakers there, President Claudia Sheinbaum were like, oh, no, no, we are not having D.C. And U.S. forces come over into Mexico, that we are not going to carry out operations. We're not going to cooperate with that. Venezuela is a mess, and it has been for a long time. There's a lot of dissension there and people who are very desperate. So you wonder if the U.S. is toying with the idea of... you know, creating an opening there in some way for the people to rise up against their own leadership. It's a dangerous situation. At any time that we get involved with something that looks like regime change, it's a very dangerous proposition. Our own Martha McCallum got the Democratic socialist candidate for New York mayor, an interview with the Zohran Mamdani on our channel this week. Your reaction to the big news out of that, he said he has no opinion on the future of Hamas. Just wondering what your reaction to that is, knowing what we know about, about Zohran Mamdani and his thoughts about the Middle East and Israel. Well, it just, I think for a lot of people, it's very confusing to watch that race and to know that New York City has got such a strong, vibrant, vocal Jewish residency there. And, you know, it's such a big part of...

the city of its culture, of its heritage, of its future. And to wonder how those things play, those comments play with Jewish voters, are they staying home? Are they going to show up in greater numbers than we think? Have some of them made peace with some of what Zohran Mamdani has tried to articulate as a different position and where he is? I don't know. I mean, it is a fascinating race to watch. And I just can't imagine how those statements land. Just about everybody across the spectrum agrees Hamas is not a group that can be trusted moving forward. They are a designated terrorist organization according to this administration into U.S. policy. So how you can have any equivocation that they are in some way redeemable in any way. is really hard to understand, especially for somebody who is likely to be the mayor of the biggest city in the United States of America with a very strong Jewish population. Now, also this week, former national security advisor during the first Trump administration, John Bolton was indicted by a grand jury in Maryland over his handling of classified documents. He's charged with transmission of and retention of national defense information. He's now the third current or former government official to be charged, along with former FBI director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James. James Comey's been charged with lying to Congress, James with bank fraud. Now, former ethics officials from both Republican and Democratic administrations have written the Justice Department's Inspector General a letter, alleging that these indictments are to fulfill President Trump's longstanding personal vendettas, that they are vindictive prosecutions, though each of the three was indicted by a grand jury. Of course, everyone's innocent until proven guilty or unless proven guilty in our justice system, which is unique and beautiful and a strength of our system. But yes, these indictments don't just show up on Pam Bondi's desk or Lindsey Halligan's desk. I mean, they do go through a grand jury system. And remember, one of the counts, at least we know of, that they did try to pursue against James Comey was not indicted by the grand jury. So that should give people, I would hope, some... some confidence that the system is working. And now there's a whole other step. I mean, trial and evidence and all of those things in a very robust and it will be very transparent. I mean, the American people will be able to watch and see what happens. I do think it's interesting that when so many of these different prosecutions were being launched against President Trump, that there wasn't a concern among anybody writing a letter saying, oh, is this being politicized? I don't mean not against, and nobody was raising these claims, but some of these officials who are now worried about James Comey and James, I didn't hear them raising concerns that potentially the DOJ or the legal system was being used against a top presidential contender. And so we'll see what the IG has to say. I have confidence. I think the inspectors general are such an important part of our system. And they often have things to say that are negative for the administration and power. And that's their role to be truth tellers and to get to the facts of the situation. So I have confidence in that system. But I also have confidence in our legal system and how these indictments play out. And we'll see what the American people decide as part of a jury as this moves forward.

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It's a mystery how these individuals got their commercial driver's license or even were trained. I know Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy signed an order in May aimed at stricter enforcement of English proficiency. for drivers and that reversed an Obama era change that was made no longer requiring inspectors to pull someone off the road if they didn't meet proficiency requirements. That was no longer enough to have them taken off the road. I'm wondering who are the inspectors? Is this all regulated at the state level? Is some of it regulated by the federal government? Is it kind of piecemeal? How is it regulated? Truck driver training is regulated in each state differently. And so as a company that does business in 43 states, we have 43 different regulators. Each one of those states has different regulatory requirements for me to operate a truck driving school safely and train somebody to get them licensed safely and ultimately tests at the DMB. Now, on top of that, there is a federal regulation that's under Secretary Duffy and the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. where they also have regulatory power for who gets approved and who can train potential drivers on our highways. The problem with the federal situation is its self-certification. So Lisa, if you want to become a truck driver training provider, you can self-certify in this federal registry that was implemented four years ago. And no one's going to investigate you. So basically what's happened is since the last administration, we've had a free for all of truck driver training providers register in this federal registry with almost no oversight of who's doing what. That is how so many dangerous drivers are getting approved and licensing and you put on the highways. What's changing with the rules and the enforcement of the rules? Is that loophole that you were just talking about one of the things that they're hoping to change? Or are they still sort of in the process of figuring out how many things need to change? This is, you know, this is not a straightforward easy, just pull the plug and we can reset it. So what he's doing already with the non-domicile, that's massively helpful. Like, let's get the road safe, first and foremost. So non-domicile drivers, that's the first point of order and amazing in such a short amount of time while he's been in office. When we say domiciled, it makes people, me at least, it makes me think of housing. But we're talking about it's licensed in one state versus not in the state where you live, something like that. Correct. There's two types of non-domiciled driver's licenses, commercial driver's licenses. One is you came to this country and maybe had work papers or something from a foreign country and you showed that. This is the case of this individual.

in Florida and somehow they got a driver's license, a commercial, a regular driver's license. Then they went to California. They showed their driver's license and then they flipped that into a commercial driver's license. And on that driver's license, it said either limited term or said non-domicile. So that's an individual that came from a foreign country, had work papers, had some sort of visa, who knows what. walked into a Secretary of State's office or DMV's office and got his license or her license and eventually somehow got a commercial driver's license, didn't test in English with a DMV, and somehow they flipped them a commercial driver's license. The other kind of non-dobic solid is exactly what you said is when you have someone from the state of Indiana who wants to train in the state of Illinois. And then they are a non-domiciled driver in the state of Illinois because they trained in the state of Illinois and they received their driver's license, even though they're an Indiana resident. Where this gets on the edge and really gray is certain states have very loose regulations for commercial driver training, like Indiana or Texas or Florida. So you can train Illinois residents in Indiana with really lax oversight and then give them an Indiana temporary license and they swap it for an Illinois commercial driver's license. That individual is a non-domiciled. He was trained in Indiana and he swapped it in Illinois. The state of Ohio, to your point, state of Ohio said, we will only test Ohio residents for their commercial driver's license. That's the first state we've seen to drop that kind of rule. Yeah, you've noted there are thousands of commercial. driving schools, but they are not all licensed by states. Are these schools? schools under pressure as well because of the fact that there's such a shortage of drivers? How bad is that shortage right now? Yeah, I mean, that's been a narrative that's been going on, that there's a shortage of truck drivers, shortage of truck drivers under the last administration. So what they do? They go, okay, then you don't have to train these people safely. And they let in a lot of unsafe drivers. They let in a lot of drivers who will do this job for $40,000 where there's a lot of... Well, hardworking people have done this job for a lot of years for $90,000 or $100,000. So we really have hurt the entire truck driving workforce by letting in a lot of folks who are willing to do it at a much lower price or less more compensation than the historic norm in this industry. You got to start with there. You look at the entire industry. And if you follow what's going on the trucking industry, like rates are super depressed because they don't have to pay the drivers much. The whole industry is in like almost a four-year recession now. Like we haven't seen such a thing in the history of trucking industry since like 2008 in the financial crisis. So it's a much bigger issue when you start tearing it apart and you look at the top of the funnel going, how are all these drivers? Who's getting all these? Who's training all these drivers?

It's putting all of us on risk, unknowingly, on the highway every day. And, you know, you don't really think about it. Is that truck driver driving next to me? First of all, does he even speak English? Can he read the sign? But was he trained properly? You know, maybe he can read the sign. But did he go through 160 hours of training? Or did he go to a legitimate training school like ours? Those are the real questions. Where do automated trucks potentially fit in to this scenario? You're talking about like autonomous trucks that drive by themselves without the driver? Yeah, okay. That's a bigger question. Like I would, I tell everybody the autonomous trucking is, you know, you've seen a lot of experiments. I don't think we'll see them in my lifetime or my children's lifetime. I mean, you're talking about a major workforce issue. I think in some states. The trucking industry supports, you know, upwards of 50 or 60% of the population in some places. So you're just not going to swap them all out overnight. There's figured about 3 million trucks in the United States. Each one costs $200,000. You know, like a $600 billion one-time investment to replace all the current trucks. Even if they were all autonomous and the technology worked and there was, you know, all this backup. And I don't know who's going to solve that problem. So, you know, a massive amount of investment. to take the driver out of the equation and make the cost lower. Well, it's really hard to imagine how that's going to work in this current environment. Like the cost per truck has to come way down to make that work. I mean, the reason why Waymo works, like in San Francisco or other places have ever been to Waymo. Right, the Romo taxis. Yeah, the robo taxis. Because you don't have to own a car. Well, if I don't have to own a car, then I'm saving money. I could just use Waymo or Uber or whatever I want on my own. But for the truck, the truck is a revenue generating thing. It has to move from point A to point B, like to replace every truck in the United States and remove every truck driver from the highway. The technology is not advanced enough. I think it's going to be very hard to see it in my lifetime or even my children's lifetime. How hopeful are you at this point that... Going forward, the current administration's efforts to address some of the issues with the licensing and the schools and safety can bear fruit, can actually get some results. We've heard from, I don't know, almost all the states where we do business because we're in contact with the individuals who govern our program. And they're actively removing commercial driver's licenses. They're notifying these drivers that they are non-domiciled and their driver's license being revoked. So we've heard some of that. I gave you sort of the example in Ohio where they're only testing their own residents. And these are all super positive things that weren't in place nine months ago, six months ago, three months ago. So we're making, I mean, of course, we want it faster because we all want safer highways. But I think President Trump and Secretary Duffy are making very fast progress here. But again, they're just at the tip of the iceberg. The really easy way to do it is just remove the non-licensed commercial driver training providers from the federal registry.

There's 2,100 of us that are like licensed schools. I'm one of 2,100 across the whole nation. But there's 30,000, like you mentioned earlier, 30,000 providers in this training provider registry. Secretary Duffian, go in there, go, just show me the ones that are state license. Everyone else, go get state license. And there's no problem. with everyone being approved in this training provider registry, just get licensed by your state of where you do it. And then everyone's on the same playing field. Then there aren't a million different rules that everyone's following to determine what's safe and what's not safe. These are state licensed things. And, you know, my license is from the state of Illinois. And so, you know, state of Illinois has accountability for me at the end of the day that they've approved that they know I'm a safe driver. And that's where it just reside at the end of the day. Steve Gold, founder, CEO of 160 Driving Academy and the Truckers Network Association. Thank you very much for your time. Lisa, thank you so much for having me. And now, some good news with Tanya J. Powers. A dog named Eeyore is being called a hero after leading Florida sheriff's officials to a missing 86-year-old woman who had fallen while walking him. Body cam footage released by the Okalusa County Sheriff's Department shows Eeyore's incredible feat. The woman's husband reported her missing on September 25th after she didn't return from her walk in their neighborhood. He told Deputy Devin Miller that when his wife goes for a walk, she takes the dog who belongs to her son. saying she isn't usually gone more than 10 or 15 minutes, and it had been more than an hour at that point. Miller drove around until she saw Eeyore in the middle of the road. The dog trotted up to the deputy, who asked him, where's your mommy? Tail wagging, Eeyore led her right to the spot where the woman had fallen. The woman was alert and later taken to a medical facility, surprised that Eeyore had guided the deputy to her. Eeyore got lots of hugs and pets, as the woman could be heard on body cam footage saying, oh, Eeyore, you're such a good boy. Grandma loves you. Tanya J. Powers, Fox News.

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In other words, the co-ed who will eventually marry a man has stopped referring to herself as queer and face the reality that she's just a straight lady. The number of gay and lesbian students had stayed constant, while the number of heterosexual students has increased. It's good that these made-up categories are seeing a nosed dive in participation. But years of affirming, confused kids to the opposite gender means that we aren't going to see quite a steep of fall among trans-identifying kids yet. It's hard to get off the roller coaster once your family, friends, and health professionals have all strapped in alongside you. Kids who are on hormone treatments to attempt to look more like the opposite sex or who have had surgical intervention won't be able to just quit one day and forget about what happened to them the way the green-haired non-binary guy will simply dye his hair back to its regular color and go to law school. The number of truly transgender people is vanishingly small, and as adults, this country allows them to live as they wish. But the propaganda being pushed on young children, that they can change their gender on a whim, indeed that there is no such thing as gender, has had horrific consequences. Some children were mutilated, pushed into medical treatments that they were too young to truly understand, and which are impossible to reverse. It's a good sign that the tide has shifted, but some kids will be stuck in the evil trend longer than others because of the misguided support of people around them. That's why we need to make sure gender change medical procedures for minors are outlawed, and schools stop peddling misinformation about sex. No child should be hurt by this ideology. This is Carol Markowitz, columnist for The New York Post.

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