Choosing Life In A Culture Of Death

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Make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast and, of course, to the premium version of our website as well. Our guest today is Ryan Bomberger, Emmy Award-winning creative professional, international speaker and co-founder of the Radians Foundation. and he's just released his memoir, should have been aborted, which recounts a life the world said shouldn't exist. A powerful story, definitely so, in a time of this death culture that we are experiencing in this country and in this world today. Ryan, thank you so much for joining us on

this edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. Hey, it's great to be here with you. Absolutely. Before we get into your life story, and it is a powerful one, your mother made what many would think a difficult choice. Apparently, it was not a difficult choice for her. She chose life in some very difficult circumstances. We'll talk all about that in just a bit. But I'm curious what you think about some of the latest that we have seen from YouTubers who, who, you know, are, exist for bait clicks when they do their YouTubeing stuff. But there was, in the last couple of weeks, a couple, Jesse Ridgeway and his wife went on their

YouTube channel and talked to their subscribers or the people who follow them and said, we've made a very difficult decision. We were all happy and thrilled that we were going to have our first child. Then we took a genetic test, and we found out that it is very likely that our child would be born with Down syndrome. And so we have come to the decision that we're going to have to abort the child and get rid of the child because, well, in their arguments, we don't think it's fair to the child and they clearly didn't think it was fair to themselves to have a child that they saw as defective. I guess I wanted to get your take as someone who is on, has an interesting perspective on all of this. Yes, it's actually a shame that one, Jesse Ridgeway gets the attention

that he gets, but you know, you become a YouTuber for whatever reasons and you get all the attention. Obviously, mainstream media gave him plenty of space to air his ideology. And what's shocking to me is that what he's espousing is eugenics, you know, this racist elitist, elitist pseudoscience that believed only some people deserve to live. And certainly not defectives. In fact, the mother-planned parent and Margaret Sanger said that birth control was to eliminate the birth of defectives or of those who will become defective. It's an evil mindset. And yet, I just, you know, he's a clickbait king. So this is part of his, you know, his whole serious psycho series.

In fact, there was a thumbnail on YouTube where it said, we may lose the baby in big red letters with his wife and him sitting down in the driveway. They didn't lose their baby. He said because of devastating news. They didn't lose the baby. They killed their baby. Yes. And then he turned it around and somehow he became a victim because he talked about all these death threats.

and of course didn't show any proof of any of those death threats. But even if that were to happen, that would be reprehensible. But somehow they became the victim in this story where the only victim truly is the child who's viewed as not worth living, whose life was not viewed as worth living. Like my God brothers and god sisters who have Down syndrome. I have siblings who have physical disabilities. They have just as much worth as everyone else. And so as someone who grew up in a family of 15,

with 12 other siblings. I have a very strong opinion about this perspective because the moment we're willing to discard those who don't fit our picture of perfection is the moment we keep inching closer to that whole eugenic mindset. It's scary. I mean, it really is frightening.

What is the worth of a human being in such a disposable society? And it's particularly frightening because we are seeing, on the other side of that, this very expansive idea of assisted suicide in Canada and in this country. And there are states and municipalities that are looking to expand upon these laws. I mean, that may be the other side of the coin, but it just, it speaks to, you know, just how disposable this death culture sees,

sees the world. And I'm just curious when I see statistics like what we've seen out of genetic testing, that is extremely alarming because the people who are getting these genetic tests and find such things as perhaps complications or health issues with their unborn children, amazingly, sadly, something like 90% of those individuals are deciding to murder the unborn child. And it's just baffling to me. Again, I want your thoughts on the whole movement in genetic testing and what it ultimately means in this death culture. Well, the genetic testing is, and I understand some of it to some degree, but not when we get the results. And it's decided that that human being doesn't have the right to life.

I mean, you have to remember, though, too, the eugenics movement in America led to state eugenics boards that would forcibly sterilize women, forcibly sterilize them. Over 60,000, predominantly black, predominantly poor. but they would force and those who were deemed to have cognitive disabilities, things of that nature. But it became mandatory. You were forcibly sterilized. What is the, I mean, right now we're doing that, as you mentioned, with euthanasia. And of course, with those children who are determined to have Down syndrome. But where's that line when the government says, well, you can no longer have a child who has a genetic disability.

You can no longer, or disorder. You can no longer have that child that is not deemed perfect. But see, what's wrong with that? It's not, the virtue is not in the choice to destroy human life. The virtue is allowing every human life to have the right to life. It's so sad that we, I mean, and when does this stop? If it's such a praiseworthy thing to end the life of someone with a disability because they just might not have the quality of life that you think they should have,

Well, where's that line? Then if what about people who are currently here who are disabled? You would just get rid of them? Because they don't have the right quality of life. And people, you know, they dismiss that, but we have medical ethicists. I'm not going to, I don't even want to call them ethicists. Like Peter Singer, who believe that you can do a post-birth abortion up to two or three years. Oh, my gosh.

These people exist. That's horrifying. But it's, we're not far from it. And now we're in a culture that's just. flaunts death as if it's like choosing a meal and that's what scares me about the ridgeway thing there's nothing in the mainstream press to actually push back on any of this to scrutinize any of it to actually challenge the mindset at all i'm thankful that's some disability groups and of course the pro-life movement is is countering this but where's mainstream media i mean part of the

journalist creed is to be quickly indignant at injustice yes that's right and uh we have not not seen much of that in corporate media for some time. It's very, it's not only unfortunate. It just skews the, the message and the narrative. And there's a lot of that going on, of course. Your story is very compelling. I have said this before. You are a powerful counterpoint to what we've just been talking about. You were conceived in rape. Your birth. mother chose life anyway. And we had a chance to talk recently in a radio interview, and you told me at that time, you know, I'd said something to the fact that these are difficult decisions. I'm not going to underestimate that with, you know, women who have gone through such traumatic

experiences. But as you write in your book, your mother really, it seems from the beginning, was set on life. Tell us a little bit about the experiences that your mother went through the decision making and then ultimately where were you ended up. Well, I don't know specifically what motivated her toward that decision. I do know from her family, having finally connected for the first time of my life to biological family, birth family back in the fall, back in October. But they said that my birth mom, whose name was Sharon, was a very strong will person.

When she said her mind of something, you could not change her mind. And so I just her sister slash foster mother, we can talk about that later, but she said that Sharon loved children, that she never would have chosen abortion, that she loved. loved children. And so even going through this horrific experience, I'm so grateful that she was courageous enough to make that decision. In fact, she, Carol tells me that Sharon immediately, my birth mom immediately said, you know, I'm going to place this child for adoption. I don't feel like I can be the one to love him. I don't want him to know that he was conceived in rape. Ironically, I grew up knowing at least 13 on that I did. But yeah, it's her strength.

She chose. And this is in our culture, it blows my mind. You always want to encourage someone to be stronger than their circumstance, no matter what it is. But somehow when it comes to abortion, it's no, women, you aren't strong. And if you can't do this, you can't overcome. That's nonsense. And because of her singular decision, the beautiful reverberations that come from that, it's, I mean, they're almost incalculable. I mean, for me, the most beautiful are my wife, Bethany and my four children, two of whom were also adopted.

That's just wonderful. going to get to that in just a moment as well, your life experiences and where and how you were raised. But your mother was in the military at the time, wasn't she? So, I mean, this, this as you've learned. And the other part of that, too, is I guess I didn't know that. You were 13 when you found out that your mother was a victim of rape. She decided to choose life. How did that happen?

And what was that like? Well, she was strong-willed and so am I. So now I know finally where I get it from. So I was having, I'll call it, a conversation with my mom. And in that tense conversation is when we talked about things and brought up birth parents and she brought up what happened. And I said, wait, wait, what? My birth father did what? He raped your mother.

I'm like, what? You never told me that. She goes, I've, I've told you that several times. But see, I didn't understand what the word rape meant, apparently, before age 13. Yeah. And so she felt horrible that I apparently never understood it. And it was devastating to find that out. But honestly, I was loved so much by my parents.

They poured so much of Jesus into me, our faith. That kept me from just completely spiraling into a hot mess. But I ended up doing a persuasion speech in eighth grade. public school on abortion and it was the first time I was able to share my story and watching the way that people reacted to me telling my story my my teacher was crying some of the students were crying lots of great questions afterward I realized that I had a story to tell but then that drives me crazy about my sort of case the exceptions cases were called or sometimes some people say the hard cases and I call them the heart cases but rarely ever do you hear the pro abortion side ever talk about

punishing the rapist. They don't ever talk about punishing the rapist. I mean, and in fact, the Supreme, this blows my mind. The Supreme Court back in 77, this is after Roe v. Wade, of course, in 73. But the Supreme Court ruled in Coker versus Virginia, I'm sorry, Coker versus Georgia, not Virginia, that it was cruel and unusual punishment to give the death penalty to a rapist. That's what they determined. Even though four years prior, they determined that a child could be killed in utero for any reason for no crime committed whatsoever. And so that's the thing that that blows my mind. The victim being the mother and also the victim being the unborn child, they deserve, I guess, the violence of abortion. And so that's what drives me crazy when people talk about the exceptions

cases because they don't want to talk about the individual who actually should be punished and about the wholeness and the healing that the mother needs, not some pink euphemisms and all these fake feminist phrases that don't ever undo the rape and don't ever punish the rapist. And that's why I feel like I have to share my story because mainstream media doesn't want to carry it because it's always, I am always the 1% used to justify 100% of abortions.

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If you're looking for more thought and less noise, check out Future of Freedom wherever you get your podcast. Yes, that's amazing. Yeah, the rapist have rights and the unborn have no rights. That's a pretty twisted world in which we are trying to navigate and have done so for quite some time now. I am curious. I don't mean to belabor this point, but I think it's interesting. You said you made that eighth grade speech, persuasive speech. And having talked to you, I can imagine that it was pretty powerful.

You said that your teacher was crying. Some other students were crying. I can only imagine, given what public schools are like today, and I'm kind of surprised when you were going through the public school, if the principal didn't try to run you and your family out on a rail for daring to. speak in opposition of abortion on demand. Did you get any pushback from students or administrators? Not at all.

I mean, that was a day and time when public school actually educated. Unlike today, I'm based in Loudoun County. So, you know. Oh, wow. Ground zero, four school boards gone wild. And good luck to you as well. I always feel bad for the conservatives who are trying to survive the Abigail Spanberger era.

Oh my gosh. It's so tragic to me that schools have become a haven for leftist politics instead of critical thinking. You know, recently there's a pro-life student who was barred from giving her pro-life speech in class while they gave anti-Christian, pro-LGBQ speeches and whatnot. But she was not allowed to share. I was freely allowed to share. The difference to, well, the time was different, but also our family name, the Bomberger name was. and is really well known in that area. I can't imagine any principal or staff member

coming against our family, really, because there was a lot of love for the Bomberger family. So in part, that was kind of a great shield for a lot of us, not doing wrong. I'm not saying that. But a shield in some of the things that we're doing, particularly now. But at that time, no, there was no resistance.

There was one student who came up afterward. And I remember it surprising me, she said even after all i shared and with the graphic images by the way i was using brochures from heartbeat international and pro life action league i had to cut out pieces so that they could see you know what it actually looks like there was no pushback how i haven't really thought about the nature of that but you're right it is crazy to think in this day and age where where these public schools have become so well they're radically pro abortion the teachers unions are radically pro-abortion. Of course they don't. They don't even want the fetal models. They didn't even want the

little rubbery images of babies in utero. They said, they're political. No, that's actually biological. Yes. It's science. Well, if you'll recall, the Supreme Court Associate Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson couldn't tell you if what makes a woman because she's not a biologist, right? So, I mean, it's not surprising. And these folks are products of that so-called called critical theory notion of education that is just infiltrated and flooded our public school system in particular. Yes, absolutely. You mentioned the Bomberger name in where you live, where you grew up.

The Bombergers not only adopted you, they adopted many children. It was a household filled with... children who were born of other families, of other mothers. Tell me about that experience, because I think that clearly helped inform who you are and what you are and what you've become. Absolutely. And I'm forever grateful to my birth mom for making that courageous decision. And it's not an easy decision. It's a lifelong decision for many. But I'm grateful for for her because she gave me as a gift, if you will, to the Bonberger family.

I loved growing up in the Bonberger family. I grew up in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, home of the Amish. I travel all over the place and sometimes I'm asked, well, were you Amish? Like, uh, no. I've only ever seen one brown Amish person in my life that was a college student doing a cross cultural trip or exercise or whatever it was, of course. But no, I'm actually my grandparents are Mennonite. So I guess it's kind of like Amish light.

But I grew up in on a farm, 13 kids. My parents knew before they got married that they were going to adopt because my mom knew that she was going to adopt. And that came out of her own brokenness. At the age of five, my mom was placed in a children's home, an orphanage for an entire year because her father was a heavy drinker and her parents were separating. He was emotionally abusive to her mama. And so she was placed in a children's home called Christ's home in Paradise. for an entire year. And it was in that time that she got the heart for adoption.

She saw other kids whose parents never visited them while they were there. And it broke a little child's heart. And so that's where she got the heart for adoption. And growing up, you know, she went back home after a year, her parents to get together again and ended up separating divorcing later on. But her whole childhood and throughout her teen years, she was like, I'm going to have a big family. And she would tell her boyfriend's that she was going to have 10 children, at least 10 children and through adoption, at least some through adoption.

And, you know, that probably scared away quite a few. But it didn't scare away my dad. He was like, okay. Well, he said initially, in fact, in an interview he said once that, well, I initially thought she was a little crazy. But then as the children came in and I loved every one of them, it just felt normal, natural. And I loved them. and I loved her. So, yeah, that's where the heart for adoption began.

So on that farm, we had 13 kids, white, black, mixed like I am. I'm a mixture of white, black, you know, part Asian. I'm more Native American than Elizabeth Warren. I think everybody's more Native American than Lion. I am too, by the way, yes. Wait a minute. Hold on a second. I got our little pooch here is with us for the interview.

She is more Asian than Elizabeth Warren. and I just wanted to add that for the record. It's just so, well, and the thing is, I love that I'm a mixture of these things, but it's not that it elevates me in any way, but what it compels me, and I think our family was that we serve as bridges and reconcilers and people who just want to dismantle this nonsense. You mentioned critical theory before. Dismantling critical race theory and anti-racism racist theory,

all of that garbage because growing up in a family like I did you grew up understanding that we're one human race I mean act 1726 of course spells that out but we lived it out we didn't ignore our color we're colorful we live in a colorful world I thank God for that but he didn't create color for us to separate ourselves by it and I love that my parents didn't avoid talking about these hard issues didn't pretend they didn't see our color but also didn't pretend that our color defines who we are Beautiful. I mean, just an extremely powerful story of love. Yes. Love beginning with your birth mother who loved life so much and valued that so much that she made the decision that she did. And then your parents, your mother filled with love and your father as well raising, you know, a big family. Well, first of all, let's face it. I mean, when my parents were kids, there were all kinds of big families. I mean, my dad was part of a farm family in Iowa that had 11 kids in it, you know.

So again, we have a large family. Those families are becoming fewer and farther between, of course, as we go further into our brave new world. And it takes a lot of love and obviously resources and care to raise a big family like that, a lot of children like that. Now, take in children, adopt them. You know, that becomes, you know, even more, I think, selfless on that front for so many reasons. Our guest today is Ryan Bomberger Emmy Award winning creative professional international speaker and co-founder of the radio. We're going to talk more about that in just a moment. And he's just released his memoir, a powerful story about life and the value of all life.

And the memoir is called Should Have Been Aborted. Recounts a life. The world said shouldn't exist. When did your advocacy? Because that's not all that you do in your life, but that is a big part of your life. Your advocacy for life and the life movement in America, when did that really take hold? Was it, you know, when you were a kid in junior high, middle school and making those speeches? Or is this something that kind of grew over time?

It was definitely something that grew over time. I mean, from that, the things that our family did, we were involved in adoption, obviously, not just adopting, but also supporting that, supporting some orphanages at the time or some other child welfare organizations and just kind of living it out working with kids with with mental um difficulties cognitive disc difficulties of course they're calling it neurodiverse and can never keep up with all the terminology but you know just that was our norm um doing things like that throughout our whole lives supporting my parents supported pregnancy centers from a young age and maternity home in our area so That was kind of something that we were involved in, not heavily like I am now,

but I would say the turning point was getting married to my best friend, a love of my life, Bethany. And it was when we decided after leaving a job with a prominent, faith-based organization, I won't mention it. So I don't have to say disparaging things about it. But I left that organization. But disparaging things are coming. Am I correct?

No, no, no. I'll keep it. I'll try to keep it elevated. But it was actually, I am grateful for it because what it did is it trained me to deal with hostility. It trained me to deal with people who would be completely irrational. And I don't mean the whole organization. It was just some of the people I worked with. But it prepared me for what was next.

And so in 2009, Bethany and I had finished all the paperwork and launched our 501C3, the Radiance Foundation, because we wanted to talk about these issues that we felt like Christians in particular weren't well prepared to address. And so we wanted to equip people and replace the fear of talking about things. I mean, look at our culture today. So many good people are just afraid to talk about things, mainly because they don't know how to even start the conversation. So we created the Radin's Foundation to do this. And obviously when it comes to the issue of abortion, that was our primary thing. We talk about abortion.

We talk about adoption, fatherlessness, poverty, racism, free speech, and religious liberty, because all these things sometimes are really tied together. And basically the war in common sense. And so that's when we officially started our advocacy as the co-founders of the Radiance Foundation. It's rooted in Christ. It's rooted in the gospel in that. That is, I think, such a compelling thing because it comes from the source of life, which cannot. I hope is so many people have forgotten.

and that I hope we as a country never, ever forget that. Let me ask you what you thought on, well, I guess we knew about it was coming in early May, unfortunately of 2022, and the leaking of the Dobbs decision, Supreme Court that would overturn Roe v. Wade, which was not only morally horrible law, you know, my humble opinion. It was very flawed law and the Supreme Court corrected that. Dobbs decision comes down and then, of course, we have a lot of churches and life groups under attack, assault. It was a very difficult time. And we had Supreme Court justices as the Federalist Editor-in-Chief writes in her new book about Samuel Alito Samuel Alito about how.

you had, you know, threats, very, very significant, severe threats against Judge Brett Kavanaugh at the time and all kinds of death threats coming out of this. But there were so many people in the life movement who rejoiced at that moment. I can only imagine what you and your wife and the folks at the Radiance Foundation were thinking. Oh, my word. I was by myself at the time. My wife was at a pro-life women's conference in, I think she was in St. Louis, and my kids were at camp. And so when I saw the announcement come over, I was watching Fox News, and I thought, oh, my gosh, there were so many reasons. I mean, my family, my childhood family, I mean, many of us the world would look at and say, oh, no, they shouldn't have lived.

of somehow saying that life the right to life can be left up to the states i mean that didn't go well when they tried that with slavery didn't go well when they tried that with women's right to vote some issues are not state's rights issue i mean some issues are yeah there's human rights and they're they're above anybody any legislators pay grade and so the supreme court failed in that but i will say that dabs was a great reminder that in the the battle for life in the battle for truth that victory can be attained. It's just that what was done with that victory. I think the pro-life movement was blindsided. And then the radical pro-abortion death culture that has taken over the Democratic Party

tried to enshrine abortion as a right in state after state. We're still dealing with that in the state of Virginia. We're dealing with that this fall. That somehow abortion is what's sacred, not life.

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That is twisted logic that can only come from some very dark places. And I do believe as a Christian, there are forces of evil acting upon the brains of men and women. And that kind of logic is just, it's very difficult for me to understand. So I ask you, you hinted at this, and I understand where you're coming from. Are we better off post-dobs or not the same? Because as you mentioned, we are seeing some horrifying things like abortion tourism in the state of Illinois and California and other deep blue states where abortion is abortion on demand. And so you had, it can be argued, at least some protections with the national law, even with Roe v. Wade, as horrible as it was and as bad as it was in terms of the law. But did the Dobbs decision, the removal of Roe v. Wade, make things more difficult for the pro-life movement in the,

America and for the unborn? Yes. Definitely, yes. Giving states the right to decide who gets to live and who gets to die is a terrible responsibility given to anyone. And so we're looking at the reality of what. There are 13 states that have full bans. And I say that with a qualifier. Some of those include six-week bands. Or I shouldn't say, I'm sorry, the ones that have full bands, I think still allow, most of them still allow. Six weeks. Chemical, chemical abortion pills. Oh, heartbeat pills, right. Chemical abortion pills.

And then there are a number of states that have six weeks. I think there are four of those and then others that are 12 weeks and like three that are 12 weeks and beyond. But it's made it really difficult. We've got a patchwork thing here, which I think goes against the 14th Amendment. But there are difficulties too because the vast majority of abortion, 60 to 63 percent or more are now DIY chemical abortion drugs. And you got an FDA that's been doing absolutely nothing to stop these dangerous drugs from killing. And they're not even upholding any of the safety protocols they used to hold.

So it's become really difficult. And of course, then you have judges, even the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court that said that there is no right, the Constitution does not confer a right to abortion, for them to kind of kick this recent case back down to lower court, and not actually stop the flow of abortion drugs into pro-life states to me is, again, the Supreme Court is so supremely wrong so much at the time. And here's another example.

You can't give us Dobbs and say there's no right. And then you allow the right to continue by saying, you know what, we're not going to stop these abortion drugs. We're not going to force the FDA to actually enforce their own safety protocols. So it's really a mess. It's a messaging mess, too. from state to state where you have pro-lifers outspent, what, 20 to 25 to 1? I mean, a mainstream media that's all on the pro-bortion side.

Sure. It is a hard battle, but I'll tell you, it's always one worth fighting. Yeah, it certainly is. Life is worth fighting for you are living, breathing example of that. I want to shift gears. We talked a little bit about your foundation. Radiance Foundation. I want to talk about that, what it's all about. And then you are also an award winning, Emmy Award winning, creative professional. To win an Emmy is pretty remarkable.

Perhaps the death culture that would have said to your mother, well, just go ahead and abort the child, because we all understand. Look at what that child has become. Tell us a little bit about your life experiences and obviously some very positive successes you've had. Yes, I do thank God for those things. The Emmy Award was for my graphic design, broadcast media design for a specialized show,

a documentary show. I've received a lot of awards for some of that work. I've received, actually was really honored with a book that was called Legacy of Life, listed as one of the 50 most powerful pro-life leaders in the last 50 years. And that was unexpected. But I say all that not to elevate me, but to elevate a God who uses those that the world so easily throws away. and says, look, we exist. I feel like my life, my story exists to disprove the lie of the world.

And the world's always screaming a lie. And that's why I love that I've been able to do these things. I've been able to just disprove the pro-abortion left, the pro-racism left. I've been able to shatter these things. And I'm going to continue to do this the rest of my life. But I want to add this that it doesn't matter if as someone that the world sees, should have been aborted. It doesn't matter if I achieve anything in the world's eyes. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? We all have equal and inherent worth simply because God created us.

Psalm 139. We're fearfully and wonderfully made. There's not an asterisk there that says only you have full capabilities and only if you do this or that. Or you don't have, you know, some sort of long-term health issue. Right. You don't come into the world with Down syndrome or cerebral palsy or whatever it is that the death culture wants to terminate. It wants to drive. out of existence. Right. I can't imagine growing up without actually, I doesn't name the family, the Rooney family. My mom's best friend was Barbara Rooney, Barbara in her husband could not conceive children. And so they adopted all their children, many of whom were children who had Down syndrome. And their first child, they named after my mom, Andrea. So I grew up around that and the thought

that people somehow diminish their humanity, some of the most beautiful human beings on the planet. And quite honestly, I just think the weakest among us, or at least those who were perceived as the weakest among us, make us the strongest. Yeah. I couldn't agree more. And that's become, to a great degree, your life's work. The Radiance Foundation, when did all of this begin? And again, it's very much focused on the pro-life movement in America and the value of the unborn. but but it does so much more than that when did it when did to begin and what was what was was your original mission always where you're at now it seems to me that you've had a some evolution in this yes well we started in 2009 and our heart was really just to illuminate that every human life has God given purpose but we actually wanted to address a lot of the issues that we addressed

today we just didn't know that we were going to be talking about the gender confusion and And all these politicize things about sexuality because they're so inextricably tied to life. I mean, when you have one side that's saying men can get pregnant, no, they can't. And then they're saying that the unborn child is not a human being. Yes, the unborn child is a human being. Humans produce humans. That's, you know, basic biology. We didn't realize we would be getting deeply into other things.

But no, we've actually had the heart to address all these things. but I would say the evolution came with how deeply we got into a number of these issues. Of course, life is first and foremost with what we do because without life, nothing else matters. And so it's gotten us in all kinds of trouble, if you will, good trouble. I'm Frederick Douglass agitators. So I will agitate, agitate. When we first launched Radiance Foundation, our first campaign was to combine race and abortion and launch 80 billboards in Atlanta, Georgia, calling out the abortion.

abortion industry, calling out Planned Parenthood for its past and present racism and alerting the public to the fact that abortion is the number one killer of black lives. More black lives, for instance, in New York City are killed by abortion than are born alive. That is a sad, sad statistic, but true. A recent congressional hearing on this noted as much talking about significant numbers of abortions in the black community. And that if you think the eugenics, hideous eugenics movement is a thing of the past, it very much is alive and well with Planned Parenthood. Oh, it is.

They've never changed their DNA. It's funny because people will often say, I speak a lot of college campuses, and people, students will say, because they're not very well informed. by their colleges or their high schools, apparently. But they'll say, well, Planned Parenthood's not like it was during Margaret Sanger's Day. And they're like, you're right. They're not. They're actually even more evil because back then they weren't killing via abortion.

They had all the racism. They had all that disgusting discrimination and that vile worldview. But then abortion came along was legalized, 67, like with the Therapeutic Abortion Act in California, signed by Ronald Reagan, before he became a Republican and before he became pro-life. California is the one state in our union that kills the most unborn human beings. In fact, so many, they don't even bother to record it, but many of them, over 90,000 lives are killed by Medi-Cal, which is their version of Medicaid.

So it's taxpayer-funded. But, I mean, Planned Parenthood is more evil now than it was then. and yet people are now touting this evil as a freedom as as empowerment i mean who does what does abortion empower it empowers abortionists it makes them millionaires yeah certainly doesn't empower well it empowers men to have sex and run for the men who don't want responsibility but for the men who want to stop abortion and in most cases most states across the country can do nothing to stop their girlfriend or their wife from ending the life of their child um There's so much to this.

And the fact that eugenics is alive and tragically well, you can call whatever you want. It comes in different forms and it, you know, always masks, masks itself in euphemisms. But it is alive and tragically well. And unfortunately, there are too many people even in the church that are embracing some of these evil ideals. Absolutely. Well, let's close with this. You have been in your experiences. Your existence, again, has been a powerful argument for the pro-life movement, for choosing life, for recognizing that life doesn't just happen after a child is born.

That is a human being. But as you mentioned, so many people have decided to turn that portion of their heart and their mind off. So this is a battle for hearts and minds, and you've been doing this for a long time. Do you believe America will ever get to the point where it fully abandons the lie that you have talked about, the lie of the death culture? Well, there were seven Supreme Court justices that rolled in Dred Scott that people of my complexion were not fully human, we're not full persons. Seven to two. Roe v. Wade, seven to two.

Seven male justices decided that human beings could be killed for any reason. We can look at our history in our country and we can see that slavery was abolished, at least chattel slavery was abolished. And that's something to rejoice about. So when people look at the landscape and think, oh, this is, this is impossible terrain. We can't achieve this. This cannot be done. It's been done. Wrong has been righted.

And so I just want to encourage people. That's why I'm going to keep on doing what I do. It's why I wrote the book should have been aboard. It's why the documentary, which actually we're going to have a premiere of that publicly, there's a documentary that's a companion piece to the book. But I want the public to understand that nobody is better off dead. We're all better off loved. And so I'm going to keep sharing my story.

I'm going to keep sharing other stories. The beauty in our humanity is when we show strength. And what is strength? Strength is defending the weak, not destroying them. And so I'm hopeful. I've got Jesus in me. I've got God's heart for the fatherless. And I'm not going to stop, even though politically it seems impossible.

I don't stop there. And that's why my wife, Bethy and I, the Radians Foundation, are small but mighty team and the many amazing people that we work with in pregnancy centers, maternity homes, adoption agencies and the pro-life movement in its entirety. We're going to keep on moving to when we get to that place where the unborn have their freedom. And they'll be free at last. I firmly believe that we can get to that place. Very well put. choosing life, choosing love. And you have, by the grace of God, I believe, and a courageous mother, you are here to share that message. And I very much appreciated that it is a Christ-centered message.

Real quick, when does the documentary air, where can we find that and where can we find your new book? All of that can be found that should have been abort. So the book is available there. The documentary actually we're going to show we're working on some streaming agreements. So we're just going to have an I guess a broadcast of it or streaming. I'm sorry, but not broadcast streaming of it on Facebook on Juneteenth. What a great day. Why? Because that was a day that I was adopted. And it's a pretty special day for me. So more more special reason than what people have politicized the day as awesome day that Texas final. only got the memo that people of my complexion were set free, that white and black people worked together for freedom because of love of God and love of humanity. So that's a great thing to celebrate too. But June 19th at 7 p.m. on Radiance Foundation's Facebook page, but everything you can find out at should have been aborted.com. God bless you, your wife, your family, all involved in the Radiance Foundation, doing the good work of God. I very much

appreciate your time and your tireless efforts. Thank you. God bless. Thanks to my guest today, Ryan Bomberger, Emmy Award-winning creative professional, the international speaker and co-founder of the Radiance Foundation. He's just released his memoir, Should Have Been Aborted, recounting a life the world said shouldn't exist. We'll be back soon with more of the Federalist Radio Al. Until then, stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the first.

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