Ian Chamberlin Pt 1

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Out of college, I worked for the Department of Defense. Okay. And then after that, I found myself in higher education where I negotiate contracts, data use agreements, service contracts, research agreements. So I'm used to reading legal jargon. So do you work for a private company right now then, or you're still working for the government on some level? No, I work for a private Catholic university. Oh, which one? Remotly. I can't share which one. Oh, okay. Yeah. But it's a Catholic university. Correct. Okay. Well, there aren't that many of those around. So that's kind of interesting. So when it comes to that kind of stuff, then you mentioned the data contracts and things like that. And that's going to be just an absolutely... One issue voter tagline this time around is the data centers. You've got the gubernatorial candidates, the city council, everybody in his brothers taking their stand and hoping that they're going to sway the voter just on that. So what are your thoughts on data centers? Because you're going to be some of that land that you're talking about in your district is going to be prime for a data center. Yeah, so. Funnily enough, I didn't grow up in Toledo. I grew up in northern Virginia, which is the data center capital of the world. Boy, no crap. And so I spent my childhood seeing what was farms turned into massive warehouses with tons of lights outside. And I think the issue with data centers, particularly now, is there's not a lot of transparency about the decisions being made. And people aren't being keyed into. the conversations that their local governments are having with these companies. I think that's the biggest worry is they, we don't know. Well, I know because I'd pay attention, but most people are like, we don't know what's going to happen. What effect it has on electric costs? What effect it has on the water? What effect it has on the environment? Is it going to be empty, you know, in five years? Yeah. So I think that's, first of all, that should be the state legislature's job. And then they've, They've had a committee that's exploring, you know, the impact of data centers and all of that. But I think they need, since I'm a contract negotiator, I think they need to put some rails in place for these localities to be able to negotiate better, to tell them like, look, you can get a better deal. You don't have, like, there is feasibility to not sign NDAs or to negotiate an NDA that if something needs to be disclosed to the public, you have flexibility. Shouldn't everything, though, a... be allowed to be transparent? I mean, why, why should there be any thought of an NDA at all? These are public officials. They're working on our behalf for the people of the people by the people. They're using public dollars, taxpayer dollars to fund some of these and to give them tax breaks. Shouldn't we know everything about it before anything is agreed to? Yeah, I agree. I don't think NDA should exist in this platform of economic development with the data centers. I am in opposition to that. I think when it comes to good government, good government is transparent. And that transparency needs to exist at all levels of government. And I think that's where the state legislature can come in is by passing laws.

that enable transparency that tell local governments, hey, you have to share this information. You cannot do, you cannot sign an NDA. You cannot not disclose things about data centers. Yeah. I mean, and I understand there are sometimes personnel matters and things, you know, when a council or a trustee townships or township trustees go into executive session. Those things I get, but not when it comes to how are you going to spend taxpayer dollars on building infrastructure that's going to be there and going to have an impact on the environment. If you want to follow along, you can go to Friends of Ian Chamberlain, and Berlin is spelled like the city, Ian Chamberlain.com. We're going to talk with him. Now you've got time to hang around, right? Yeah. All right. We're going to talk with him for a couple of segments. You can't talk about this. You can't share this. So now. Right. And you're actually putting, when you do that, you're actually putting the township or the city, whatever, in a bind because now if you say something, they can go ahead and sue the township for whatever millions of dollars. So that covers the transparency part of it. What about just in general about building the data centers? Do you want some restrictions? Do you think they should just go wherever they want? Whose interests are supposed to be prioritized here? Yeah, so I would say coming from a family of farmers, I don't like them being built on farmland because where is America going to get our food if we continue to shell out farmland to data center development? Yeah. Yeah, but what if your family decides they don't want to farm anymore? I mean, you're not a farmer. At the same time, I understand private citizens having a right to sell their land accordingly. But I think we should incentivize brownfield development. I think in Toledo, we have to have plenty of brownfields that can be given to data center companies that are preferable to have over farmland and incentivize that repurposing of that land. So those old factories and things that aren't there anymore and it's never going to be anything. Exactly. And that land has to be worked on in order for it to be developed. Whereas my understanding is why farmland is so popular is because it's so flat and it's so easy to build on. Yeah. So there's no incentive for them to not buy farmland. So I think that's kind of where we have to shift to bring it away from that. And what about the promises that they bring that, look, we're going to give you so much money for your school district because that's what's the selling point for a lot of these smaller places, especially townships who don't have the ability to raise taxes. on their citizens, you have to be able to get revenue someplace. And man, you wave a big handful of money in front of some of these townships. They're going to jump at it. I think that goes back to the state. The state needs to put some guardrails in so that everybody... throughout Ohio is on the same playing field when it comes to negotiating with data centers. So that it's not, you know, somewhere like in Ohio getting taken advantage of, but someone like a township in the Columbus area is able to negotiate a better deal kind of because they're aware of what's going on because they've been there kind of deal. So I think we kind of need to just make it.

easy for these small localities to negotiate and to actually get what is best for their community instead of taking these deals that you know what was i think i read 150 billion dollars of yeah tax revenue was left on the table in ohio and it's like well clearly you know people are getting the rug pulled under them and we need to stop that we need to prevent that to ensure that revenue stays in ohio and doesn't doesn't fuel a data center company you know If you want to follow along, you can go to Friends of Ian Chamberlain.com. He's also on Facebook. Can you hang around? Yeah. All right. He's going to be around for another segment. So if you got a question, email, get on the phone. Ryan C Crest here, so every great barbecue takes a little patience. And while the food does its thing, you can enjoy a little Chumba Casino. The perfect recipe. Chumba Casino, always good to have you back. No purchase necessary. VGW Group, void, were prohibited by law, CTs and Cs, 21 Plus, sponsored by Chumba Casino.