Bonus Rantz: The Guy Benson Show

but it will then go in front of a judge. The judge is going to reject it. So anyone who thinks that the mayor is going to be recalled over this, you are in for a wake-up call. The judge is going to toss this. We have a very, very high bar for recall in this state, not just in Seattle. It has to show misfeasance, malfeasance, or an intentional violation of their oath of office, none of which happened here, at least none of which they're pointing to happened here. And it'll be rejected. And frankly, rightly so. There are a lot of people who voted for her knowing she had zero experience. We are now living with the result, the consequence of a really bad decision. And the voters, myself included, I live here. I join everybody else on having to live with this, at least in the short term. Well, and I just wonder whether, you know, the whole rhetoric and Katie Wilson is party to that, the whole rhetoric from these far left progressives to be anti-law enforcement, to be, you know, defund the police folks out there talking about that. And we've seen, obviously, that playing out in these socialist progressives running in the Midwest, a bit of a Midwest attempted socialist surge happening there. But with Katie Wilson, she had a lot of criticism because she didn't want to. want to have the surveillance cameras in crime areas. And, you know, now she's sacked the chief of police for perhaps what wasn't fully his fault in handling that horrific shooting. And I'm just wondering if there's a bit of buyer's remorse on some voters' minds, even perhaps some Democrats that thought they were on board until all of a sudden they realized, wait a minute, I do care about security. I, so I'm not. picking up that vibe yet. It seems like what is fair to say are the Democrats who did not vote for her who wanted to give her a shot are saying, yeah, that was a mistake. I should have gone with my initial instinct. But for the most part, the people are complaining the loudest are the ones who didn't vote for her to begin with. The folks who are on the far left, the activist class, they are not happy with her, but not. for this reason. They just don't think she's done enough yet to fulfill some of her promises during the campaign. They should have acknowledged that that was going to happen again, even if she wanted to fulfill every single promise she made. She's brand new to the office. She doesn't have a staff filled with people who have a lot of experience in running a city. They were never going to see any successes in the very short term. She also does not do a lot of interviews. And to the extent that she is... trying to, you know, impose her agenda, people probably don't even realize any of what she's doing because she doesn't talk about it. She's not very good with the media. She'd be the first one, I think, to acknowledge that she's not very good at that. So some of that is a self-inflicted wound, but I think she's still trying to find her way. The biggest test right now, after this mass shooting, but from a policy standpoint and where the activists are going to fall is who she's going to choose. to take on the police chief role. She gets to start from scratch. And in theory, she could go with one of these choices that the activist class will like, someone who's against proactive policing and is clearly there to basically take on a political position and do what they can to depolice our communities. Now, that would be a huge mistake that will lead to significant pushback.

from even Democrats in the city. At this point, trying to placate the activist class is a losing proposition for the mayor. I think she knows that, which is why you don't hear from her using the rhetoric that you hear from other activists on the far left. I think she understands politically that that's just not a winning message. She already lost the backing of the, almost the entire city council, who have almost all of them have come out. to criticize her in ways we're not used to in in seattle they usually back their mayor or if they have any concerns they tend not to voice them publicly they're choosing to do so is telling. But to answer your basic question, I don't get the sense that her supporters, who still are the majority of the voters, are feeling buyer's remorse yet. Well, we'll follow it and see where that goes. Let's go national now. And I've sort of framed this as we're seeing at least the spark of an attempted socialist surge in the Midwest, right? You've got Abdul al-Siyadh in Michigan. You've got in Minnesota, Peggy Flanagan. Michelle Defoe, we just had on this program. Great interview with her talking about how she's going to make her argument to Minnesotans about why the socialist policies will fail them. In Wisconsin, though, it came up short. Francesca Hong, who, by the way, was really strange for so many reasons, chief among them hating Thanksgiving. But David Crowley is also a very progressive Democrat insofar as one of the first things he talked about was trying to do Medicare fraud and things like that. What do you make of this? Is this sort of a 15 minutes of fame for socialists in the most unlikely place of the Midwest? Or is this a real thing here to stay? Well, it's a little bit of both. I think the reason why Francesca Hong did not win, and to be clear, it was very, very close and she was the favor going in. The polling was obviously wrong as it was wrong in. Yeah, 20 points. I mean, that's like the separate scandal here that people need to figure out. Are these pollsters just really incompetent? Or are they lying to us with the results? I don't know how you can get those two major races wrong in such significant ways. But Francesca Hong, ironically, she lost out, I think, because of the amount of coverage of Abdul El-Sayed and that win. When you see Abdul El-Sayed winning by the skin of his teeth and you're the next. you know, race to be decided. If you're a moderate voter or a Democrat who wasn't particularly enthused, you might feel even more of this push to get out there, more of a pressure to get out and actually vote to make sure that your candidate of choice wins. I don't think we're going to see the end of this movement because for the most part, the movement is strongest.

in blue cities and counties, right? In blue states, Wisconsin does not fit that. Michigan's a little bit different because you have the Arab American population that was coming out in larger numbers. And I think the number I saw was like 95% of Arab American voters who voted went with El Sayed. That pushed a different dynamic for him. And he's going to lose in the general. I'm fairly confident of that. But when you look at the places like Chevalier and all these others, these are. socialists who are pushing out moderate or liberal Democrats or establishment Democrats. So it's not like the Democratic Party is picking up any power there. In fact, all they're doing is making it so that, you know, if anyone remembers any of the Tea Party infighting, it's going to be way worse than that for the Democrats. Oh, you bet. John Boehner, look, I was on the Tea Party Express. I literally covered for like 40 days going on the Tea Party bus from California all the way to New York over the course of a month. But, you know, what's interesting. to me, and you mentioned the Francesca Hong's loss, I would tell you there were two major errors. One is a lesson for every politician going forward, and that is do not hate on Thanksgiving. Americans love Thanksgiving, and if you hate on holidays, particularly Thanksgiving, it is political kryptonite. Number two, I think it fell short simply because notice Bernie Sanders. an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did not get on board and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is really something fascinating to watch she certainly seems like she is gearing up for a 2028 attempt to put a socialist in the white house and she has to be fair to her the political skills as a congresswoman she's only strengthened herself her squad has become a major influence in the democrat Congressional halls. And, you know, I saw on, I don't know if you saw this on Polymarket, they literally have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at the top of their polling. They have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at 18%. Gavin Newsom now in second place at 17%. Jon Ossoff, Georgia Senator, at 16%. And actually, Kamala Harris. is way down the list at 8%. And this is, of course, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. I love this soundbite. I'm going to play for you real quick if I have time. That is cut 14. This is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talking about woke 1 era. I mean, I think that a lot of these races, even right now, they'll have a tendency to be nationalized. Yeah. These races ultimately are local, and all politics are local. My understanding is that Francesca Hong has made clear her present stances to her electorate. Yeah, she's moved away from it. Right, she's moved away from it. And I have a local city councilman that has this saying, woke one was crazy. Wow. So what's Woke 2 going to look like? And, you know, I mean, I think she's really got her finger on the pulse of the energy of where the Democrat Party is. Well, she's trying to revise history, her own. And she does that because she knows that Leftly Media will likely give her a pass. Woke 2 is Woke 1 except slightly changing how they brand themselves and the language they use. But they still hold their crazy positions.

Yeah, it seems to me that, you know, at some point, Democrat leaders like Chuck Schumer, who is the most powerful Jew in Congress, Hakeem Jeffries, both New York guys, where they just had this runaway DSA back to candidates, because it's not just Chevalier, it's also Claire Valdez and others. At some point, they're going to have to push back on this socialism because somewhere between woke one and woke two, anti-Semitism got in the car and won't get out. They will push back when it's too late. They will push back when they have control of the House and look that the numbers suggest and history tells us that they're going to have control of the House. We'll just see what those numbers look like. But that's when they'll try to push back and it'll be too late for them because they're going to cause a whole lot of chaos and havoc. And they're going to make certain demands if they're going to give Hakeem Jeffries their support. Chuck Schumer, I would gather, is not going to be the majority leader if they're able to take control of the Senate. Yeah, Abdul El-Sayed was a couple weeks back. He was saying, if your name is Chuck Schumer, I'm going to be an awfully dangerous man. Do you ever, going back to my polymarket poll, do you see any scenario where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez actually gets the 2020 nomination for the Democrats? No. I think it's more likely that she runs for Senate in New York and probably wins unless there's some sort of scandal, I guess. And that's Chuck Schumer's seat. Yes. Yeah, we'll see where that goes. So let me ask you this, and I've kept you a long time. Thank you for staying with this. But if you really sort of peel back where this socialist push goes, it begs the question. And Cato did a great study, breaking down the numbers, saying it could be upwards of $200 trillion over the course of the next 10 years. Is anyone at any point in this going to ask the question, how? How are we going to pay for it even if we were all on board and wanted to do it? Well, you will. I will. I mean, those of us who have, you know, are to the right will ask these questions. I don't expect that liberal media will be asking those questions in any meaningful way. And if they do, they'll get some silly talking point bumper sticker answer. It's time for the rich to pay their fair share. And then they just kind of move on. The problem is reality gets in the way of a lot of these ideas. And if the. Public is going to continue to go down this route of just wanting free stuff. They just have to recognize they're still going to pay for it. There's no such thing as free stuff in the government. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's the old Margaret Thatcher line, right? Like socialism is great until you run out of money. I've said from the beginning, ultimately what this socialist surge is all about is a group of people who believe that they...

think that Lyndon and Marx have a better vision for America than Washington and Jefferson. And that's not something I think most Americans would sign up. Who knows? Jason Rance, great to have you on. Keep us updated on your socialist mayor. I love getting the updates. Thanks, Kirk. Appreciate it.