Hour 2: SPD had smaller presence at Bite of Seattle, Bob Ferguson climate scandal, Jake Skorheim

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You can argue, I suppose, that if you had more visible police officers at every single entrance and exit, that the suspected shooters coming in would have thought differently about pulling away, okay, fine, I guess. But we didn't get many details from the Seattle Times as to where these cops were. And, you know, Rob Saka, another council member who's running for mayor, said hindsight is always 2020. He wants the SPD to figure out, quote, whether you believe there was adequate staffing or not. It's an impossible question to answer because if there wasn't a mass shooting, we would say, well, yes, there was adequate staffing. I mean, you look at the day before the shooting. So the shooting happened on Sunday. You go the day before on Saturday. The police staff was just five more than it was on Sunday. And we don't even know, based on the timing. of the, you know, the bite of Seattle, 50 officers all at once, I don't think so. It's 50 spread out across the entire day. That's my presumption. So I don't even know if there were 55 all on scene at the time throughout the entirety of the event on Saturday. But going from 55 to 50, that's not that big of a deal. It isn't. They also, by the way, were supplemented by private security, at least during the daytime. So, you know, I don't know how much of this, I think, could have been prevented with even a ton more officers unless they were all very visible. And we're generally told not to expect visible policing during these events because people on the radical left pretend that it scares people. It doesn't, by the way, but that's what they claim. And so cops kind of stand aside. They don't make themselves as visible. I don't know if that was the case in Byte of Seattle. This shooting happened had nothing to do with police. It had everything to do with a culture that tells young kids that pulling a gun on each other is okay. A culture that has told criminals that don't worry, we're not going to punish you. Assuming you get caught, you're not going to spend a whole bunch of time in jail, especially if you're younger, especially you have the right demographics for the radical left to pretend that you're the real victim and not the bad guy. I blame gang culture in general. A gang is going to shoot people up. intentionally or unintentionally, no matter what, that's gang culture. So you can go through all the staffing numbers. It's important and we should. The numbers are important. The data is important. I have no problem with that. And next week I'll give you the latest staffing numbers with the Seattle Police Department. But I don't know if you can look at this and say that's because of the shooting. Putting the blame on the cops for a shooting in this case is ridiculous. Putting the blame on the department and command staff for how poorly the communication was handled after the shooting, 100% legit. But everything we know, everything we know, the cops responded to the shooting within seconds and they save lives. And it is pure speculation to say they needed more cops there. And by the way, since when does the Seattle Times ask for more cops? The newspaper of record, which wanted to run cops out of town, all of a sudden they're saying, oh, this is a big deal, this is a big issue. We need to really focus on, oh, yeah, please, spare me. Just spare me.

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So what we now know, again, courtesy of Melissa Santos, is that behind the scenes, the Department of Ecology emailed the governor's office on December 20th, pushing for permission to sound out a correction on December 22nd. So just two days after all of this went out, and they realized the error that they made. The department spokesperson, Dustin Turpinning, Terpening. wrote, given the size of the error, we believe we need to publicly acknowledge and take responsibility for it. Now, over the weekend, at least twice, he asked the governor's office to approve the draft release that they would want to put out on Monday, which said, yeah, our bad, we screwed up. But the spokesperson for Bob Ferguson, longtime spokesperson, Brianna Ajo, responded Sunday that she and the chief of staff for Bob Ferguson, Shane Escobel, wanted more time to review the release before it went out. And so they withheld that until the afternoon of January 6th. January 6th, this was after Todd Myers wrote a blog post about it. So he waited a while. He waited a while. He gave them time. And it appears that the only reason they put this out was because they got caught publicly. Maybe they were guessing that Todd Myers wasn't going to say something or they were just waiting to see if he would say anything. Like, hey, you know, it's around the holidays. It's December 20th. He's probably taking some time off for Christmas in a few days. Let's just go ahead and gamble and see if he's going to forget. Maybe you won't say anything. Well, he said something, and only then did they release this. Now, the Ferguson spokesperson, Brianna Ajo, told Axios that, quote, additional review was needed to, quote, verify the source of the error. So that they can make sure that there were no other mistakes and to, quote, put measures in place to prevent an error like that from occurring again. No one actually believes that. Like, no one believes that. You could have done both. You could have put out the information and say, look, this is an error. We are going to come up with some measures that we can put in place to prevent something like this from happening again in the future. But we want to come forward because of the magnitude of this era. Because remember that big number, the 8.6, that was reported in local media. Like folks ran with that. And it was so over the top. It's why Todd Myers took a look. And kudos to Todd for looking at this because other people just reprinted. or broadcast it celebrating how significant this was, but Todd Myers, who actually knows what he's talking about on this issue, was like, yeah, it doesn't make sense, doesn't add up. It doesn't make any sense. Now, at the same time, according to the emails, per Axios, the governor's office, they say the governor's office also resisted some requests for agency officials to speak with the media about the error after it became public. Why would that be? Because they don't want to highlight it. Because they wanted to hide it. This is the least transparent governor that we've had, at least in modern history. He is still, I don't think, done a single press conference that was open to reporters on any subject. What he tends to do is if he does a press conference, it'll be on a very specific subject and he won't take questions about anything else. Or very rarely will he.

He'll kind of push them aside, hey, you know, this is about so-and-so. We're only going to, because he is not maybe good off the cuff. So he has to be really, really prepared on one particular topic in order to speak at a press conference. And so anything else may be throws him. That's my guess. I don't know. But it's weird that he can't do press conferences. He is not transparent. And just having everything go through his office. means he's exerting a level of control and his staff is that is very suspicious and just begs for more scrutiny. And by the way, creates more scandal. This didn't have to be a scandal, this ecology issue. This could have been a very quick story and they could have quickly acknowledged the error. And now not only does it reintroduce the error, but it reintroduces the scandal over how they withhold information from the public. It's a really bad look. We've got a lot written on this over at seattlered.com, including the link to the Axios report that I hope you'll check out again, Seattlered.com. Let's find out what else is trending. What's trending? Dumb-Dum alert. Just another reminder that Prima Jaya poll is the worst. So she's out there defending Hasan Piker, who was invited to speak at the University of Washington before the college came forward and rescinded it, essentially saying that the procedures that we have in place for inviting speakers at the university level, not from like the student club level, that that procedure was not followed. and they ended up rescinding an invitation. There was no contract signed, it sounds like. Hasan Piker has come out and effectively said that the only reason he was rejected by the university is because of his views on Israel. And I have a feeling that's at least partially correct. This is a guy who's an anti-Semite. And there is an obligation from the university to not have speakers on campus who would actively... put the lives of their students in danger. Remember, the University of Washington is under federal investigation because of the way they've handled anti-Semitism on campus. Or I should say the way they haven't handled anti-Semitism on campus. They've allowed it to flourish. Now, there are some free speech arguments that you can make. Go ahead. You can make them. My tax dollars should not be forced to pay for someone who I believe to be an anti-Semite. to spew his anti-Semitic rhetoric. And folks on the left would not be upset if Nick Fuentes was being invited to speak on campus by the college itself. Again, this is not a student group. This was the college. If Nick Fuentes was invited and then disinvited, there wouldn't be any tears from folks on the left. But Pramila Jayapal goes online. And she talks about how she's been in contact with the University of Washington. She wants to make sure that this never happens again. It's all theatrics because if she thought they did anything wrong, she would be demanding that they were sinned. But she's, of course, defending Hasan Piker because Pramila Jayapal herself is an anti-Semite. She does not like Jews. She does not support the state of Israel existing. She is someone who has sided with Hamas, downplayed. The rape that was done, I think that that's siding with Hamas.

I know she's going to pretend that she doesn't side with him. No, no, we know which side you're on. You're on the freedom fighter's side. Pramila Jayapal is someone who blames Israel first. That's what she is. Blame Israel first. That's her agenda. She's not America first. She's blame Israel first. Sometimes he's blame America first. I guess it depends on the issue. But she's definitely not America first. Now, on top of that, I noticed that she had tweeted something. this past weekend about Nancy Mace. Nancy Mace is a dumb dumb. We do not like Nancy Mace on the show. She's a South Carolina congresswoman. She ran for governor. She lost. She won't go away. The president doesn't like her. She'll become the next never-Trump voice once she gets out of Congress. Although she's making it a little bit difficult, I think, for herself if she hopes to be embraced by left-wing media. Because she goes on her ex account and basically says that any Muslim who runs for office is, you know, basically a Trojan horse that we cannot allow the, you know, we can't allow Muslims to be lawmakers. And I think that that was a stupid comment to make. It's not that we can't allow Muslims the same way we, you know, to say we can't allow Jews or can't allow Christians. No, they should be. If they love America and want to support our country and our Constitution, I don't care what the religion is. It was a needless, a needless comment from Nancy Mace. And she knew that. She was just doing it for clicks. Again, this is why we boot her out of office. We don't want her. But ironically, it was for Mullah Pramila Jayapal who then responded, saying, this is absolutely disgusting and dangerous. Republicans must denounce this blatant Islamophobia. To Muslim communities across America, I will always stand with you. Now, she would never say that, of course, for the Jewish community. In fact, again, she is defending Hasan Piker, who is an anti-Semite in my view. She is defending him. She's not having anything to say about his... awful comments that he's made in the past and he's made many of them she's not apologizing for them she's not condemning them she's defending them while then attacking Nancy Mace sorry no no and this whole idea of the entire republican party has to condemn comments coming from a colleague Oh, is that so? Why is it that you don't have to do that? Why is it that Democrats don't have to do that? And she got called out by this retired NYPD lieutenant. Now, I don't know who he is, Zeke Arkham, but he's got a huge following on social media. And he replied saying, hi, Pamela, before you call on Republicans to start denouncing stuff, please allow me to bring some stuff up. If you're calling on Republicans to announce comments, how about you go first? And he specifically pointed to Zohran Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, Abdul El-Sayed, Ilhan Omar, all of whom have said pretty rotten things and stand for pretty rotten things. And yet does she apologize to the communities who have been scorned? Does she call out the rhetoric from her side? No, of course not, because she uses the very same rhetoric. You'll recall she was at that Net Roots Nation conference out in Chicago.

A couple years ago, and we talked about it at the time. We played audio of it at the time. She was called out for going after the racist state of Israel. That's what she did. And she was condemned by a lot of folks, including in her own party, they called her out. Because they saw what she said or they heard what she said at this NetRoutes conference, whatever it's called. And they were disgusted. They were disgusted by it. And they wanted nothing to do with her. She goes on CNN and she downplays rape that was used by Hamas. And they had to call her out. They called her out. It was Dana Bash at the time calling her out to her face. Then Pamela Brown goes on and calls her out for something else. Not long after that. I mean, it's so disgusting what it is she's doing. So how dare she tell anyone on the right that we have to condemn something when she openly espouses pretty awful comments, rhetoric? and never denounces anything that her colleagues say that goes well beyond what is acceptable rhetoric in the world of politics. 1,800, 465, 877 for your text. We've got this, by the way, written up at Seattle Red.com if you want to join me in calling out Pramila Jayapal. Quickly, let's find out what else is trending. What's trending? The economy. I have virtually no time right now, but I want to just quickly... pitch seattlered.com because we have a story up right now about a Seattle Times report that claims the Seattle area housing market is slowing because of tech layoffs in the tech industry and it's creating uncertainty. This is a perfect example of the Seattle Times picking something that is technically true and then creating a storyline around it. It is undoubtedly true that some of what's going on with our housing market, and it's not going so well. The housing market is very, very, very weak, and it's going to get weaker, by the way. We'll get into some of the data points later next week. There's no doubt truth that when you have a bunch of high-paid jobs get laid off from Amazon and meta and Google and Snap and all these other companies, that it's going to have some repercussions in the housing market. True. What doesn't appear in their article at all. is the income tax or any policy coming from the Democrats. How do you have a conversation about the housing market? How do you have that conversation without mentioning those policies, without mentioning the income tax and how people are actively saying they are leaving and have left as a direct result of that? You do that when you want to create a narrative that defends the people that you support, which are Democrats, when you want to use the media. In an abusive way, I think, or at least they're abusing the trust to narrative set. It is clear as day what it is they're doing. We'll talk a little bit more when we have time next week. I'll probably do this on Monday.

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Tom, Tacoma, Bremerton, Boffel. This is The Big Local on the Jason Ranch Show. Redmond, Sumner, Kent. Stories about you, not about Seattle. Hey, look at the time. It's 430 on a weekday afternoon. That means it's time for the big local, brought to you by the Dana Show, heard weekdays. Right here on Seattle Red 9 to noon. Don't miss Dana Lash. We don't have a ton of time for the big local today because we went a little bit long in my last hour. And Jake wants to talk about some stuff. He's going to step by in a moment. But let's talk a little bit about what's going on in Mount Vernon, which is the latest city to impose a moratorium on data centers. They didn't quite go as far as a lot of other cities, including most recently Cleellums, Bokane, the city we don't talk about in this segment, Seattle. But they went six months for their moratorium. Here's their city attorney, Kevin Rogerson. They could be impactful to both water demand usage and noise. They keep saying that, but a lot of the data points in the opposite direction. You can look at Quincy and what they're doing there, and they don't seem to have any problems, especially given the fact that we have heard now from a number of the big tech companies saying that they will handle the costs associated with, and we're talking about the electrical costs associated with data centers. This is a national security issue to me. If they're not built here, and we know that they have to be built, they might be built in China. And if they're built in China, do you want China and the communist government having access to everything that goes through that data centers? I don't. Now, people keep talking about water demand, noise, concerns, all these things. Here's, again, the city attorney, Kevin Rogerson. There is also a particular concern because the city lies an honor into your floodplain and the issues of the catastrophic risk presented by flooding and data centers. Uh-huh. Now flooding too. People have created a story in their head and they're just sticking with it. They created this story. And it doesn't matter. They're going to stick with it no matter what. No matter what any of the data tells us. It's incredibly, frankly, annoying. Seriously. It's just annoying. And they're going to lose this in the end. But right now they're winning it. We've got a story up. We definitely don't have enough time to get to it right now, but I want to just give you a shout out, or I want to give a shout out to Seattle Red.com. We have a very lengthy report for those of you who live in Snohomish County. Most of the cities there will pay a rate per person put in jail to the Snohomish County Sheriff's Office. They pay that rate every single time they book someone. That rate is going up. 133%. And a number of cities, I believe 14 in all, have come forward and said, um, yeah, no, this is nuts. We're not going to be able to afford that. The mayors include those of Arlington, Darrington, Goldbar, Marysville, Snohomish.

Everett, Sultan, the Gem of Stomish County, on and on and on Woodway. They're all basically saying the same thing. This will destroy our budgets. We cannot afford this. And they point out in their letter, after years of relatively modest annual adjustments, the proposed 2027 rates include a booking fee increase of more than 130% significant increases to housing and video court rates and the addition of a new one-time overtime supplement. increases of this size create substantial and unexpected impacts on city budgets. Now, Susanna Johnson, the sheriff of Snowmish County, she's pushing back and saying, one, this is necessary. And it's weird that you guys are asking about this because we told you that this was coming and you're acting as if we didn't give you the details. It's a lot of drama that right now is unfolding in Snohomish County. But it's something that's incredibly important. And we've got a very, very lengthy article. It's almost like it was published in The New Yorker, except ours is, you know, actually important, interesting, and we're not telling you how much better we are than everyone else that I hope you'll read. Again, it's over at seattlered.com. Finally, because I want to sneak in one more story because we're running late. Tacoma officials are trying to figure out a way to address a growing, what they call pet overpopulation problem. This happens after that boat rescue we talked about earlier this week. When we first talked about it, it was like, I think they found like 30 to 40 cats. I think maybe it got to 50 at one point. Well, now it's over 60 cats saved on this boat. And right now, they're in the care of the Humane Society of Tacoma and Pierce County. They're always in the news because of how overpopulated their shelters are. And of course, that's the case right now. Right now, we're at the tail end of kitten season and just high intake cap populations within shelters nationwide. And so it stretches our resources for fosters. Now, they say on top of the 60, and this is Como, which she spoke with, and she's a member of that humane group. On top of the 60 plus cats from the boat, the shelter also just took in another 20 cats from an abandoned vehicle. It's yet another strain on resources amid what advocates describe as a constantly growing issue. Here's Tacoma City Council member John Jim Himes with Como. I think this is just a good opportunity for us to step up and say not again. The real issue is that we're never going to be able to build ourselves or care our way out of the fact that we have too many animals in our community. So the only way we can really actually address it is spay and neuter. It's really to try to get ahead of the curve with how many animals we have. Well, you know, kudos to John Jim Himes for bringing that up because I had not heard a single message about the importance of spade and neutering animals. This is the first time. It's never been brought up, for example, on Price is Right for decades. I've never heard of that. So it's really good that they're thinking outside the box. 1-800-465-774. Your text will we come back. It's Friday. Jake Schorheim stops by. Do not miss our conversation on lazy millennials in the workforce.

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Of all the movies that didn't need a sequel. This is a lot of them. I actually do think there's some interesting ground that they could... For a movie? Well, I don't know for a movie. It's interesting. I think when that movie ends at the beginning of, you know, at the end of... I'm sorry, at the beginning. And when that film finishes and they have like the scrawl at the end where they tell you, like, to date, I think the number is like, there's like 800 million people on Facebook. I mean, that's how long ago it was. And of course, now, like, it's... every grandmother and grandfather in the world is on Facebook. And... Well, now it's really about meta because it's Instagram. But now it's about meta. Yeah. All right. Back to your AI. That's the sequel. We're doing a movie about Instagram. Insta bomb. There's no way anyone's going to see them. No. So Andrew Feldman is a guy who runs a company called Cerebrus. It's an AI chip company. So it builds the chips that power AI. Why do they always sound like that? The names, why the names always sound so weird? Well, I mean, this is not supposed to really be a customer facing. company in the traditional sense. Oh, but like cerebrous. I mean, it's like, you're trying too hard. But I like this guy because he was doing a podcast and he mentioned on this podcast the notion that you can create something or build something that's going to be life changing for you or for the world in 38 hours a week and then still have work life balance and all that stuff is nonsense. That the reality is you're going to have to put blood, sweat, and tears and spend like 60 hours a week if you truly want to build a product or a company, whatever it is. And it got me thinking in slightly lesser terms of if you just want to advance in career, we've seen over the course of the last year and a half, maybe even two, maybe even you can argue since COVID, this push. for remote work, we went from, you know, we need a work-life balance to we need a work-life imbalance. I want to spend more time out of the office and I don't want to do anything. And that has surged, I think, that thinking amongst young, lazy workers, the ones that you and I would never associate ourselves with because we're not like, well, you become that kind of if you're lazy. You're out of here at 3 o'clock every day. But you know what time I'm in? Yeah, I do know what time you're in because I can see you walking in every single day. 10, oh, 5 a. 5 a. So I love this because there are people who are now upset with him for being honest about what it takes to succeed. And they're basically arguing, and there was this write-up in Fortune magazine, they're basically arguing that that's what's wrong with the system, that you need to work hard in order to get what you want. It's a system. It's the, quote, unquote, the system and how it's been built. And we have as employees, we've got to take our power back. That is the worst kind of thinking. those people I think are in large numbers now and they're going to be running things soon and I fear for our I don't know there's enough of them no no they won't be running things if you're thinking they're going to run things purely because there's just a lot of them and that's the way I just don't think that's a generational issue why don't they own any houses

Because they don't work hard. Okay. So the idea that they're then going to then succeed to the top of the food chain in their work that they're not putting their time and effort into, I don't believe that. The people who hold our view, which is you should be working really hard and give up on life in your 20s if you want to advance quickly or, you know, start later, but you really have to just put your head down and work, work, work and stop bitching about not being in the office. They're going to die soon and retire, right? They're done. That generation. There is a larger portion or a piece of the younger generation that holds these crazy lazy views than not. And so I'm just saying by natural... lack of people who think like us, these people are going to get in position. So statistically, there's more young people that will continue to be in the working environment than there are people who are who hold these views. Soon to retire, who hold the views, they will retire. However, I will say this. Climbing the ladder at work. is still just a thing that happens through hard work, getting there early, and being visible in the office. I mean, like as much as people who want to say like, oh, it's so great to work at home. that actually does have negative implications on your success at your work. Just being seen is massively helpful. So the people who maybe subscribe to a little bit of the older way that you and I are kind of raised in, I think they're the ones, even if it's a younger generation, they're still the ones that are more scrappy and more, like you and I know younger people. You and I are both very young. But obviously we know even... I've been 29 for a while now. You and I have both been 29 for 12 years now. 14. 14 years. We know younger people who we work with here, who I would say are closer in their methodology about work than to you and I than what you just described. Because I'm the one who hired them. Well, that's true. Literally. No, but we have also seen the opposite. Well, we've seen people also who have a very like lackadaisical approach to work. And we know from our bosses that those people are not considered very serious long-term employees, right? I'm not going to admit to that. I would admit to that either, but we've seen something like that in life. I think, yes, bosses in general, in general, and we're not talking about this building, we're talking about it in general, have taken that kind of position. They don't say it publicly, though. Yes. Some do, right? And I think this CEO of this AI company, I can't remember the JP Morgan Chase guy. Yeah.

He also made the exact same. Jamie Diamond, he made a similar point, right, that, yeah, if you're looking just to sort of coves by, you might be here for a year or two, but you're not going to advance or we're going to eventually push you out. Yeah. It's really like the, so with my four sons, the easiest thing. Your Maga kids. And the easiest thing that I will tell them. is when you start to work, because my oldest is 11, and he started taking on, like, odd jobs. He's already working full-time job. He's in factories as he can. Well, he's tiny. He can fit between the gears. That's why he's so valuable. And they don't have to pay him as much. Did they pay him? I thought they just gave you a few bucks. They give me, well, I get half of his paycheck as his father because I own. You're his manager. Yes. But no, but seriously, so he'll work like three or four hours a day at various little, you know, like. What does he do? Like cutting grasses and neighbors and yards. And he's a very, you know, he's like he's trying to, he's an industrious young man. He likes to earning money. He's a capitalist. He's a capitalist. And what I'm always telling my kids is like the easiest way to set yourself apart from the kids that he's growing up with. Now maybe this generation will be different than the ones we're seeing right now who are in like the workplace in their 20s. And I think maybe we will. Hope so. You can easily set yourself apart just by arriving early. Just get there early. If you get there early and you're in the building and people see that you're like ready to go and you've got a smile on your face, as far as like career advancement goes, that's the number one thing that you can do that will immediately set you apart. Conversely, arriving late, job killer. Complete job killer. Can't stand that. Nobody can. I don't even like it when you have an excuse. If Jackson comes in... And he's 45 minutes late. Yeah. Because the freeway, there was a huge... You got a flat tire or something. Worse, the freeway collapsed. Sure. And he was all, he was, he almost died. Yeah. I don't care. Should have gone around, buddy. Yeah, well, you should have anticipated that. Should have figured out of getting here. Dummy. Yeah. That's how I... And I'm, I'm an outlier in that. It drives me nuts because I'm... always early slash on time. And when I say early slash on time, I mean, look, I'm not going to get somewhere an hour early. But if it's like an appointment, I'm there 15, 10 minutes, 15 minutes beforehand. When I'm in the office, I get into the office, unless I'm doing TV, I'm in at like 745. Yeah. I'm not really supposed to be in until 10. Many hours before. You should be here for your technical work day. Yeah. And I work afterward. You don't. That's where you fall. I mean, your co-host, he's working throughout the night looking at stories while you're busy with maggot. You have accurately painted the situation. But I'm working all the time. And if you don't want to do that, that's fine. Just stop complaining about not advancing fast enough or not getting the salary you want. My 11-year-old said something the other day that I was so proud of. Make America great again. aside from that, he said, if you arrive on time, you're late. Where did he pick that up? Because he clearly learned that from, that's awesome. I'm like, did I tell you that? I must have told him that at some point. He goes, if you arrive on time, you're late. He goes, you get there early. And I was like,

God bless America. God bless this kid. That's a good kid. That's a good kid. Yeah. No, I'm excited for, and that's the thing. These are easy little things, and these were apparently not taught to a huge portion of the 20-somethings that are now working these days. God bless them, I want them to have all the success in the world, but you know what? You're not going to get a house by arriving late to work. It's just not going to happen. What do you do? Because you've got four kids. There's a high likelihood that one of them will be lazy. It's not going to happen. But what if it does? What do you do? What if you get the one kid, you're... middle-less one. You have a dog, yes? Yes, yes. How'd you know? Did we talk about this? No, I just, you seem like a dog person. Did you get a dog? I did. You got a dog. When your dog goes to the bathroom in the living room, he's not supposed to do that, right? Yeah, correct. But if he did, what would you do? You'd correct that behavior. I'd put his face in it. So that's what you're, you would grab your kid. And I'd put my face, no, I'd put their face in their lateness. And I would say, hey, you're late, no. You're being lazy. No. And I would say bad dog. Yeah. I wouldn't say it exactly like that. I say bad kid. But I would, yeah. I mean, like joking aside. No. If they were starting to show behave, anytime kids do anything like that, if they have bad reactions to things. One of my kids right now, full disclosure, he's behaving very badly when he doesn't get what he wants. Bad parenting. He's throwing fits. That's learned behavior. It is learned behavior. What's your wife doing? Because it's not you. We cut off one of his friends. That's smart. instantly you look at who your kids are hanging out with. The problem was it was the one person of color who you decided to cut out. That is not true at all. That's why everyone is now saying racist Jacob. Nope, that's not true at all. So what we did was we had to say every time he has one of these reactions, we're like, hey, I sit him down. I say, you can't do that. I'm trying to like. What does he say to that? Does he recognize? He's six. So he's getting past it. He'll be fine. And also I set up a reward system. So if he doesn't have any reactions that are negative throughout the day, like if he doesn't like throw a little fit, he gets $2. A little biscuit. $2? I give him $2 every day. Oh, per day, not per interaction. You're kidding. He's going to be coming up with stuff. That's what I'm saying. $2 every time. Yeah, no, $2 a day. Is that the right thing to do to reward for the behavior they're supposed to? You know what I mean? I get what you're doing and I'm not even opposed to it. I want him to see the value. I want him to see the value in choosing to do the right thing and that he can also choose to do the right thing. But when it stops. I want him to build a good habit. But when it stops that you're paying him. Do you think he'll pick up on the message versus instead of, because speaking of dogs, it does work with dogs where you give them a treat and then they start to do it and then you stop giving them a treat. They look at you weird for a bit, but they keep doing it because they want it. You think that happens with humans? I know it happens with humans because I'm raising four of them. Yeah. And he's younger. He's the third in the succession of the kids. But did the first two go through this? Yes. And you did the same thing? And it works.

How much money are you down? 100 grand. You know what? You're not down as much as you think because they throw a lot of fits. Well, do you account for inflation? I do not account for inflation. If you did, I'm just saying the number would be higher. When you're a little kid, any money is a lot of money. And so I can get away with giving them very little money. And it seems like a very big prize. Yeah, just hang on to that as long as you can, man. Because at some point, they're going to be like, $2. $2. The hell am I supposed to do with this? What is the cheap? So I got to be good all week and all I get is $14. What do I do for that? Yeah. Well, he's six. What is the six-year-old? Yeah, maybe he'll stay like that forever. That's parental advice from... Jake, who is an actual father, and Jason, who is also a dad. A dog dad. A dog dad. Yeah, I'm a doggy daddy. That doesn't sound right. I don't like how that sounded. That's Jake. Subscribe to his podcast. Jake and Spike are listening live noon to three on our sister station, Card News Radio. Thanks for stopping by. Thanks, man. Have a great weekend. The Jason Rancho.