Marty Griffin Show Hour 3: ICE wants to use shock gloves!!

Amazon Music has everything you want to listen to. Music, podcasts, and now audiobooks. All in one app. Amazon Music Unlimited. Audio books included. The recap show is an inside look into the world of global soccer and women's sports. Follow and listen to the recap show wherever you get your podcasts. The mayor made a post, and I like Cory O'Connor, he knows that. He works his butt off. But he said downtown is on fire, that it's kicking ass. That's fine. But I asked the mayor to look at the big picture and get on down to 6th Street where my friend is about to close his damn restaurant down because people were stealing from him. And the video shows that. I love that there are new businesses and restaurants opening downtown, but they won't last if they have robberies. Just saying. Before I get to my guest, great. We're here at this amazing event at Shultz Ford, this backpack event. They've collected almost 7,000 backpacks headed towards 10. And one of the, they've got all this food. They've got pizza. They got coffee. And they promised an ice cream truck. This is actually hilarious. So an ice cream truck broke down and it got towed in here. And there it is. Toad in. The thing broke down. They got a big tow truck to bring it in here. Meantime, Joseph Patrick Murphy. Good afternoon, my man. How are you? I'm great, Marty. Thanks for having me on. I wanted to, Joseph Patrick Murphy is the best immigration lawyer that I know. I wanted to ask you about these shock gloves. The whole country is talking about. I assume to spend $20 million and give agents shock glove. Describe what they are and as an attorney who will be representing folks. They'll probably be used on. What are you saying about this? I mean, I understand the problem law enforcement has. They've got to get these people under control. People are fighting with them and things of this nature. But a shock glove, that's Kafkaesque. You know, there's the concern here is that... Well, there's two main concerns. The one is that it doesn't seem like it'll do what you want in the sense that if you're trying to restrain somebody, introducing electricity into their body is going to make them harder to restrain. We're going to... You know, the muscle works on electricity, and if you put enough muscle in there, it'll contract harder, potentially even break the person's bones with their own muscles. But more importantly, make them very strong. You're putting electricity into a muscle that's trying to fight you. So it's kind of, I mean, unless there's some specialized technology, and there may be, just putting electricity into someone's muscles that you're fighting with might not be the best idea. The second thing is a much more serious concern, and the concern is that it'll be used.

to torture people. When you fire a taser, that's another electrical weapon. The taser cartridge explodes and, you know, two little darts come out and introduce electricity into the person, but also a whole bunch of micro tags are ejected into the air and they're all around the site of the use of the taser. You can track it to whoever fired it. And of course, that cartridge has to be replaced. If you grab somebody with a glove, all it's going to do is deplete the battery. There's no evidence generated. You could hold them even beyond the point of compliance because you're angry. People are human. I'm not suggesting officers are superhuman in any way with their subject to human failings, just like me. Yes. And they could maybe get angry at somebody and hold them a little longer than they need to just to teach him a lesson. And that's not right. That's not allowed. That's not a law enforcement. a legitimate law enforcement activity. So that's the concern. And you're going to get cases where people are complaining exactly that happened. And there's not going to be any way of defending against these allegations other than, no, I didn't. With a taser, you can tell it was fired. There's body cams. That's the other thing. We ought to get body cams on ice. If we're going to have these kind of interactions using electrical torture devices, you know, there ought to be body cams showing exactly how long this person was held where the electricity was applied. what parts of their body. The other thing too is that they're wearing gloves and there's just a little switch. There's no pulling a weapon or anything that you would know. to see that this is coming. You know, it could be like the old joy buzzer, right? Just turn it on and shake somebody's hand. But all these things together, I'm not sure this is the best idea in the world. It gives people the creeps. And that's not a nice place, especially for an agency that has a job. It does have a job. And the job has then been voted on. But there's a lot of disagreement over methods and tactics. We have a couple, you know, we talked about it on this show. There have been a couple unfortunate incidents where... Even American citizens were killed during ice operations. I'm not saying that's all chargeable to ice or all chargeable to citizens, but this is a PR problem. Gearing up with electro-shock gloves might not be the best PR move in history right now. Yeah. Hey, a couple things. Patrick, you've done a little research on the gloves, and I've asked a couple of ICE agents, they're saying they're... More subtle might be the right word than a taser, less electricity and less painful. You're seeing the same thing, Patrick? Yeah, that is what I've seen so far in looking at some of the research on this. It's a lot less voltage than a taser. It's supposedly safer. And you're right, they don't have to, you know, shoot them. They're not shooting any darts or any prongs coming out. It's instant touch like a stun gun would be, except it's, you know, in the grip of the officer using it. Hey, Joseph Patrick Murphy.

They don't have them in town here yet from what I've heard. Have you heard anything different, sir? I haven't heard anything about these sorts of things being deployed, but they're out there. I mean, I've seen pictures of the things, and I'll certainly report in when it happens. I don't know how much electricity anybody wants in their body. A nicer way of doing a nasty thing. Okay, I'll take that. But somebody's going to get hurt here again. People have pacemakers. They have metal joint replacement parts. This is all very, very dangerous. Hey, before you go, You mentioned something in terms of semantics and how they're managing your hearings. And I think it's actually interesting in how you presented this and what happens now regarding hearings with cameras. You mean the immigration? Yes. So what they've done is Pittsburgh is in what's called the Philadelphia Immigration District. We never really had our own immigration court. Back in the day, judges used to come out here in person, maybe every couple months, and you'd go to a real courtroom in the federal building, and they could look at your client, you could hand them evidence, things like that. After 9-11, they created that big thing in that 3,000 Sydney Street. All immigration stuff was in there. People were swearing in, getting arrested, applying for work permits. Everything was, even immigration court was in there. After COVID, they switched to virtual. So just like I'm doing this now on my iPhone, a lot of people came in. We even have a little room in here. It's like a little TV studio. I was on it this morning with immigration court. So that's great because the whole reason we created these kind of sub-district, Philadelphia, or Pittsburgh sub-district of Philadelphia, was because people weren't going and they were getting deport orders. It's 300 miles each way. Who wants to do that for a 10-minute hearing? So now we, and I'll tell you something else, as part of a deal with immigration court, when they closed the south side office, they promised us that Pittsburgh would be able to have these remote appearances by televideo. I had the press release here someplace and all my papers on my, it's a lot of paper on my desk right now. But they've taken that away. Suddenly out of the blue sky with no notice, the online status in hearings, now say in person in Philadelphia. And holy hell is breaking loose. None of these people want to drive out there. None of these people want to go to a court where they could be arrested. None of these people have paid me to take a whole day off to go back and forth to Philadelphia, gas, tolls, or airfare.

Where's that money going to come from? And they got to transport themselves too. So you've got clients that, you know, and it's doing exactly what it did before they started with the sub-district here. It's getting people to not go. And that's unfortunate. There were missed court hearings. Oh, hold on. Let me jump here. And I assume, I think you assume this is a tactic to get these people physically in court so they can arrest them. Is that fair? Or to get them to not come so they, or to get them to not come so they can enter deport orders. Not everybody, very few people actually get arrested in court. I mean, clearly, if you've got a deport order and you're here illegally in the country and you show up in court, they're going to grab you. But most of the time, they're going to give you your hearings and due process. But they can complicate getting your due process. They can say, well, it's a little of immigration district. You've got to drive 300 miles. I'm not kidding. I've got cases right now where there's a 10-minute hearing, and they want me to drive. And the clients don't want to pay for it, right? The clients get upset. Then they say, well, just give me my money back. And I said, well, I give you your money back. We've done some work. We'll give most of it back. But what are you going to do about this? And they're not going to go. And that's exactly what was happening before. I think it was like the late 60s when they started with judges coming out here. And they want it to be that one. There's no other real reason to do this. I mean, we've got smart watches, iPhones, virtual this. They had the technology in 2002 when they built the office in Southside to have like that simulcast where there was a room over there that was hooked up by televideo. So what's the point in doing this other than just meanness to these people? And really, honestly, at a certain point, the lawyers who are engineering this stuff. they're kind of betraying their duties to their own profession. I, you know, I've said this to lawyers who got a little bit out of line with me in the past younger guys, whatever. I said, look, brother, this client, this case will come and go. You and I are going to be here working together for the rest of our lives. Are you sure you want to do it that way? Sometimes people can be talked down off a ledge with simple reasoning like that. It's amazing. Some people don't know. Hey, before you go, one of my boys is texting me. This is actually so spot on. I'm too stupid to realize it. The purpose of tasers is not to come in contact with a combative resisting person. Right. Right. So these stun guns, these stun gloves defeat the purpose. Right. So now they have to make contact. And that's the whole point of having the taser in the first place. Right. And when you look at people that are doing something, they say like the objective is to get these people under control, but what they're doing isn't even reasonably calculated to achieve that result for the reasons I've stated. You're trying to get someone to stop fighting and you're introducing electricity into their body. This makes no sense. So when you look at someone who's doing, saying they want one outcome and doing something that's likely to get the opposite outcome, you start looking at something called truthfulness. Yeah. And then people start making guesses. When it's clear you're being lied to and gaslighted, people start making guesses. Well, why might you want to have electric shock gloves? Sounds like you want to hold on to them and put electricity into them. And, you know, somebody's got to get out in front of this. There may be real reasons. But, you know, you and me talking on this show with Patrick about the different electricity levels, that's nice. And it is reassuring. But that's the public relations backlash that's going to happen from this. It's crazy.

No, no, no, no. This cop sending this info, at the point of the damn tasers, they can't make contact. This forces them and might even jeopardize the ICE agents. Wow. Right, right. And this is what I say. When you're doing something that's going to achieve, that's obviously going to achieve the opposite result than what you say your purpose is. That's called lying, or at least gaslighting. Yeah. Joseph Patrick Murphy, my brother. Thanks, my man. My pleasure, Marty. Nice seeing you. Wow. We're right back, folks. Amazon Music has everything you want to listen to. Music, podcasts, and now audiobooks. All in one app. Amazon Music Unlimited. Audiobooks included. Sometimes it feels like the news is full of things that have never happened before, and that is not exactly true. In fact, it may have happened this very week, hundreds or thousands of years ago. I'm Sally Helm, host of the podcast History This Week from the History Channel. Trade embargoes, Thomas Jefferson tried them. Rent too high? We've been arguing about that for a while. Each episode is proof. The past isn't that far away. Listen to History This Week, available now on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Live, one of my favorite Americans, Richard Basie Shultz for. My man. Marty. So when we started this day that you think you're pushing over 7,000 backpackers, you've gone quadruple what you did last year. Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course I expected it. You motivated this. You know, okay. This is what they're all telling me. You scared them to death. I don't know about scared them to death. That's all right. But, you know, it's the, man, open up your mind. Yeah, yeah. Open up your mind to the bigger, best, biggest things that you can imagine. And what my father used to tell me, what you can conceive, you can achieve. But you have to believe. You have to believe in it. And, you know, when I said 10,000 last year, people thought I was crazy. And they say, oh, well, you know how Richard is. He always wants more. But hold on. This is the greatness of you. My man gives away these scholarships every year. Yeah. And it started out, well, we're going to give one. This is a true story. Started out, we're going to have one scholarship. Well, they had 40 people apply, but as you said, the hell with that, I'm giving out 40. No, 26. 26. 26 people applied. I read them. As you read, because they have to, we required them to write a synopsis and an essay on why they think they deserve the scholarship. Right. After you read them, and you're supposed to, like, we set this up with Steel Valley High School, which is my alumna. And I've been there. Right. So I look at the all these essays and they're all compelling. They're all wonderful. They all have a story. And I said to Chelsea at the time, Chelsea, I can't. And I'm working with the principal, John Strump. Yeah. And I'm like, Chelsea, I can't pick.

There's no way. That means if I say yes to one of these people, I'm saying no to 25. It's amazing. And I can't do it. And she said, well, what do you want to do? I said, just give it to them all. And there's Chelsea. She was part of it. Hey, turkeys. Same damn thing with the turkeys. Yeah, we started that with the ex-Mayor, Luke Ravenstall. Remember that? Oh, of course. That's how I met you. Yep, that's how we met. Luke Ravenstall. And start out with a couple turkeys. Now you're like, everybody that calls gets a turkey. Everybody called. Last year, I think we gave away 1,100 turkeys, 1,200 turkeys. It's amazing. You know, it's just, it's who we are and it's what we do. It's what we stand for. Is this gratifying for you? It's really gratifying, but it's not satisfying. Yeah, I feel that with you. You know, and there's more to be had because there's more need. Yeah. And the more you solve, the more problems appear. The bucket always has a hole in the bottom. It always does, always. And I can't, I can't quench my thirst. Now, I see it too. Right. I do. I sit there with my wife saying, damn, I'm getting 500 emails a day and they all need help. Yeah. And you and I started that way because we said, you know, let's do the Get Marty. Yep. Yep. Remember that? Yes, sir. And we looked at all the submissions that you got and all the ones I got. And I think we were picking one a week. Yeah. And so what we have to do is focus on what we can do. Otherwise you get buried in it. The frustration, sir. Well, you do, and you do have to focus on what's in front of you. But, I mean, Marty, you and I both have a problem with that. You know, it's very hard to do that. I know. I know. You know, we have all these external influences. Oh, I got it, man. And then when we hear Josh from the Education Partnership. Josh is one of the most articulate men in this field of education. Just amazing, right? And he spoke to, did you see Patrick DeMayo here with his wife, Anita? So Anita was speaking to Josh. She was so impressed with Josh. She's volunteered now to go down to their facility to help them. Got to take a break. Love you, Bazzie. No. No, my man said 10,000 backpacks. They're going to get there. It's astounding that number. We're right back, folks. Amazon Music has everything you want to listen to. Music, podcasts, and now audiobooks. All in one app. Amazon Music Unlimited. Audio books included.

I'm Jenna Fisher. And I'm Angela Kinsey. And together we have the podcast Office Ladies. Just because we finish rewatching the Office does not mean we're going anywhere. Every Wednesday we'll be sharing even more exclusive stories from the Office and our friendship with brand new guests. Plus, you can revisit all the Office Ladies rewatch episodes every Monday with new bonus tidbits before every episode. So follow and listen to Office Ladies on the free Odyssey app and wherever you get your podcast. We're live in Wexford at Shultz Ford with one of my friends. I've been friends with Richard Basie for pushing 20 years. I say this about him and it's actually true. He cannot say no. He has a predisposition. to help people. He has found a great success with helping people. There's two men I know like you. One of them is Bob Tootie with Tootie Mechanical. He has a $100 million HVAC company. He's put 500 free furnaces and homes. And he believes, Basie, that charity breeds success. That when you have a kind heart and you're kind of people, it comes back on you and benefits you in your business. Do you feel that? You know what? I do it. I do. Okay. But it's not the goal. No, I didn't say that. Well, you kind of did. No, I think you do it because you love it. That's why I do it. Yeah. But that's not why everybody does it. Sometimes people do it for a checkmark. I agree. For a tax deduction. I agree. And that's why you had that young man on here were 781 backpacks he gave. Yep. That comes from his heart. It does. It doesn't come from his checkbook. That's his heart. Now, find me those people. Right on. And by the way, Bobby Tootie and I are friends. Yeah, I love him. So I agree with what you said about him. It was a fabulous individual. Went to Central Catholic. Yes, he did. With my brother-in-law, Pat Alivo. Oh, wow. Yeah. Of course, Pat's a friend. Yeah. And so the people like Bobby are what's needed in this community, right? But it's just, we do this. because it's supposed to be so gratifying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's more frustrating than it is gratifying sometimes. Because while this all looks wonderful and there's 10,000 backpacks that we're going to give to the education partnership, it leaves an empty hole because I know that 10,000 could very well be 20,000. I agree. Right? So, yeah, that's the frustration. The... Bucket always has a hole in it. It does. Yeah. It does. And it's wonderful because it gives us the opportunity. And I love it. And you've trained your kids. Your daughter is the same way. 100%. She's exactly the same. And your son who's standing here is the same way. My son is the same way. And you make it that. You should lead by example. Do you not, sir? I do. I do, Marty. It's just what we do. It's like I said, it's who we are and it's what we do. I love you, man. Thank you. Appreciate it. I know you're busy. Bye. I brought a one of my favorite stories with him is a state trooper sent me a note. This is a truth that he couldn't get his pickup truck fixed. It had rust in it. And could Basie fix it for him? This is a true story. And we had it towed here to Schultz Ford. And Basie had his people take a look at it.

and they couldn't fix it. And so he says to me, have the guy, the guy had cancer. He says, have the guy come to the dealership here in Wexford. So he pulls the truck into the dealership. And Basie's people look at it, say, man, it's got frame damage. He needs a new truck. And Basie gave that man a new truck. He just did. Patrick, are you listening? I am. Talk about our beautiful little friend who just passed from cancer and how much Basie did for her and her mother. Oh my gosh. J.C. If everybody remembers J.C. Battle brain cancer for several years. Just a sweet little angel. And, man, Mr. Basie stepped up huge for them. Help them with a car. Allowed mom to take JC to and from her treatments to school. Ugh. Just awful losing her. Her struggle is finally over. Her pain is done. he made it possible for them to live a normal life. As normal as you can. And the thing about this sort of life is that guys like him are always asked to give people cars, and cars are 50 grand. And he can't do that all the time, but he sure can't help. And he does. And I respect the hell of him. And Patrick's seen it firsthand. Hopping back to the last hour. One of our boys, a man who's been in law enforcement for more than 40 years, and I trusted my life. Bob Garvin was listening into the ICE dilemma. Bob, this whole situation of having these taser kind of gloves, these shock gloves. You don't like that, do you, sir? No, I do not. Tell us why. Nothing against these ICE agents. They are doing an impossible job under impossible circumstances. But this is basically a political battle, and they're caught up in it. Ice agents are not trained police officers. They should not be using equipment. of police tactics. There is really no need for ice operations out in the field. We never had them prior to 2003. What we did have, including President Obama, who deported more people ever, was a system that worked. With the politics and the woke and the fighting back and forth, These ICE agents get caught up. Ask Jim Klingensmith. Ask anybody. What used to happen is police officers made arrest. You do warrant checks on them or you get information. If there was an ICE detainer on them, we would call ICE, and ICE would say, 90% of the time know about it, administrative, cut them loose. If not, we'd take them to night court. The judge would hold him.

ICE would come the next day in a safe, secure environment and do the process. I don't even see why, and we all know, it's politics, while we have these field operators. But they're not trained police officers. They're doing impossible work without the correct training and tools. Hey, what about the gloves themselves? A cop that I know very well knows this stuff, texting me saying, The reason why you have a taser is because you're trying to subdue them from a distance that the gloves don't work that way. What's your take? I never used chemical base. I never used a taser in my life, so I'm not an expert on it. But we employed tactics. that overwhelmingly when you made an arrest, you grabbed the person, we had them cuffed as fast as possible. Half the times, their shoes were still sitting there. They were under arrest so quick. We didn't do any time to give the person an opportunity to make the first move. The ice gloves. Patrick's... Patrick says... why they need the gloves. You could argue that they're already hands-on to detainee at that point. What do you say? Well, the problem of that is you're holding on to a guy. I'm holding on to the guy. I got my gloves. I'm in the fight. There isn't, like, numbered squares of where to touch. And it's been mine, unfortunate, like with Mace, you Mace the guy, all the other cops get Mace too. So I'm not real familiar on the subject, but no, I don't like it.

I don't either. Bob Garvin. Thanks, brother. Appreciate you. You take care. Have a good weekend, Marty. The cops that I know, and I know a couple of ice agents, I ask them. And they said, number one, they don't have the gloves here yet. And they said number two, primarily is they don't have the same voltage as a taser. And they like that. And to Patrick's point, They're already in close proximity to these guys, and it might help them to detain them. We'll see what happens. But they don't have them in the Pittsburgh region yet. We'll see. Folks, we'll be right back. Live at Schultzford in Westford today, collecting backpacks, they will hit 10,000. It's amazing. The kindness and the generosity of this town and this community. Stop by. Anthony, thanks for your patience, brother. Jump in here. Marty, Marty. What's up, brother? The issue is very, very clear. As the officer you were talking to, the ex-officer, under the Obama administration, they have cooperation with law enforcement, state law enforcement. And what you have now is the radicals have taken over. There was the criminal justice system. And you've got these county council, city council, state legislators. honestly, putting the public in danger. If you don't, people have to understand, as you see on the internet, you know, ordinary traffic stops are becoming confrontational. These are, these are traffic stops. You don't have to, like, to get out and start fighting with the cop when they ask you for your insurance or a license. I mean, this is, it's getting out of hand, man. Somebody's going to get hurt with these gloves, though. Somebody, it's going to get ugly. Yeah. I'm not a cop, obviously. I'm kind of an idiot. What's your take on the gloves? Well, it's right for mischief. Somebody's going to have a heart attack. And we, we, the taxpayers, are going to have to cover it. It's not needed. But I do understand what's going on. You have sanctuary cities and you're disallowing local law enforcement to buffer the protesters and even help you with the arrest of the people who are here illegally. It is still against federal law to come here illegally. These people may not like that. Then they need to change the law, but that's the law, Marty. The gloves bother me for several reasons. You have a lot of people tussling. You have to be in close contact. You can't use the taser to subdue them. Now, I actually have to have your hands on them. It's a little bit disconcerting, isn't it? Well, yeah, but Marty, look, they've taken a nice stick away. They've taken the Billy Club away. And I'm telling you, if you see it every day on your phone, people aren't complying. They're fighting you. And then you've got interference from others who are standing around with their phone. They want to get in between the cop and the suspect. You've got total mayhem out here. Now the cops say that these gloves have less of a charge than a taser. Does that help? Does that calm your nerves? Does that make you feel okay about them, Anthony?

I don't think so. When they're tuffling, you got two people trying to put handcuffs off. You touch the other cops. You've disabled him now. Now the suspect may get an advantage. This thing is going to get ugly real quick. That's too close, man. It is too close. And when you were demonstrating back in the day, You were always dealing with professional cops that work with federal agents. None of that happens now. They don't work together. No, we got permits. We didn't have spontaneous protests. We had to get permits. The police would block off traffic and allow us. First thing they told us, you can't do it in the street. That's obstruction of traffic. You'll go to jail. We had organized protests, man. You didn't have this nonsense like you have today where you'll shut down. freeways and highways. And I blame local government for allowing this nonsense to happen. They fermented a lot of what's gone wrong in this country between law and order. Hey, before you go, I've got to get your take on downtown. The mayor is always at the ribbon cuttings for these restaurants. But I had a guy on at 1030 this morning. He owns a restaurant on 6th M. They still got a massive homeless problem. Guys are walking and stealing the tips from his restaurant, robbing him and they can't get an arrest. I don't care how many businesses open. You can't make downtown work. unless you stop that ridiculousness. Is that not fair to say? Yeah, and he's no, at this point, he's, he's a little different than what the Ganey and the Padoado crowd was. These people have violated the law. There's vaglacy laws, there's loitering laws. And the Supreme Court says, you as a city can eliminate encampments, you have the authority to do it. What the problem is, we've got gutless. politicians who won't do it. They're worried about optics. The heck with optics. If we got a beautiful optics now downtown, it's called barren. That's what we got. We've got a barren landscape. Hey, I haven't heard any issues at Target and these celebrity, and I know you go there. Is it better with the teens and the takeovers? Is it better, sir? Yes, we haven't had one of those in a while, by goodness. I don't know who people would talk to, and we've had the larger police presence. But we've got a homeless issue here, too, and a lot of it comes from these Catholic churches and stuff. I mean, they're altruistic. They give them folks overnight stays, but they let them out in the daylight, and they're just sitting around getting drunk. So no business is going to start if you got drunks and hooligans walking around all day, Marty. It just doesn't work. And that's the shame of everything that you and I grew up with. We had discipline. You had authority. You have none of that now. And that's just a shame. And all of us can't move to the suburbs. No. But East Liberty is better from what you're saying. Yes, it's better. I have to admit, it's better.

But if we don't stop, Lawrenceville will get this. We'll be talking the same thing when we got to strip. We'll be heading town if you don't stop this stuff. And Market Square is better. I had a business owner on last night. It's better. It's not perfect, but it's better. So they're making some progress there. But, Martin, remember that elderly guy who was homeless? You've been noticed for 20 years? And you try to get in hell for this. He's perched out on Liberty Avenue. He's got about six or seven carts full of garbage. One morning I was on the bus toward the town and there were rats running all over it. I mean, you've got to clean that up, man. Somebody's got to put this, somebody's got to put this guy under control because this is outrageous. A big city. Where is he now? Where is he now? He's down by Liberty. He's on Liberty Avenue and the Lawrenceville down from that U-Haul. Oh, I know exactly. Right on the main drag. Thank you, brother. All right. Good night, man. Be safe with the family. I want to make an observation about what's happening here at Shultz Ford. So they have all this stuff here. They have this backpack collection. And they've collected like 8,000, which is amazing. So they have snacks and treats for folks. So there's a... a coffee truck, there's a pizza cart, which is amazing, and there's an ice cream truck. This is a true story. They had to tow the ice cream truck in her because the engine broke down. While the ice cream truck is serving ice cream, Bazi has his mechanics under the truck, hoping to fix it so they can drive out of here. Meantime, they're serving ice cream. It's absolutely hysterical. The ice cream truck broke down. Fabulous stuff. Come on now, folks. Check us out. We'll be right back. Amazon Music has everything you want to listen to. Music, podcasts, and now audiobooks. All in one app. Amazon Music Unlimited. Audio books included. I'm Anna Garcia, host of True Crime News, the podcast. Every week we bring you in-depth coverage on cases making headlines, as well as those that go under the radar. Tune in for murders that defy explanation, mystery seeking exploration, and shocking secrets that will leave you breathless. Each week we honor the victims by going beyond the salacious in our search for justice. Crime never stops, and neither do we. Listen to True Crime News available now on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your... podcasts.