Chris HandAugust 14, 202633m

WOLVES IN WHITE COATS Lie about Gender for MONEY, & Vance Responds

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Friday. Very excited. Is it going to rain tomorrow? I wish. It's not going to rain, is it? You can pray for it. I got a big baseball tournament tomorrow. What time are the games? So, we're in Shelbyville, and both the boys' teams are playing. So Bishop, I think he's on the seven U. He might be, it might be six U. I think it's seven U. And then Brooks is on nine U. but we're getting up at like 6 a.m. So it'll be 85 when you get up. It'll be great. Yeah. I'm not like exactly hoping for rain. You know what I mean? But I wouldn't have been disappointed if it rained. At a minimum, it would cool some things off. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't look, no, it's not happening. Okay. So I'll be in Shelbyville tomorrow for the baseball tournaments. Your chances would be better if it was in the afternoon. My chance would be better for what? For Roak. Mm. And stroke, okay. Both. No, I mean, I kid. I actually love this kind of stuff. I love going to these tournaments. I love hanging out with the kids and watching them have fun with their buddies. And it's just the best. It's probably, as far as being a dad goes, the Little League stuff is like one of the highlights. I didn't know how much I would enjoy it. And now I'm fine myself. yelling at umpires a lot more than i ever anticipated i was the guy you know a couple years back i've been radicalized by these little league parents a couple years back i was like guys just the game let them have fun and now i'm the guy like what are you talking about are you even looking Oh, you're one of those parents. Yeah, I would assume that's based on like your kids have some talent. How big is your strike zone, bro? No, I'm just kidding. I don't get that. We have a couple parents on the team that do. I live vicariously through them. And then I might, I might quietly egg them on. That's like as bad as I get. Did you see that play? Believe he made that call? You know, this guy does this every time, doesn't he? See, you think he even watches baseball? So, no. We got a, we got a fun game tomorrow, so we'll be in Shelbyville. If you're out in a boat, Oot in a boot, then you're doing the baseball thing. Say hi. I've had a couple people come up to me at the baseball tournaments. Then I've had other people, like, hit me up after the fact, and they'll be like, I saw you, the tournaments. Like, say hi. I'll be the guy in the hat. cheering on the baseball team. So it would be easy to find me. We got a lot to get to today. I'm being the guy in the nondescript Navy Blue Hat. Exactly. We got a lot to get to today. We're going to talk. We didn't talk about it yesterday, but we will talk about Karoline Leavitt. It feels like a death in the family. It does. I'm not going to lie to you. It feels like a death in the family. And I think she's one of the best press secretaries of all time. Is she better than Sarah Mike Huckabee Bernie Sanders, though? I think she edges out Kaylee McEnany. I do. I know that might be an unpopular opinion. But is she better than the huckster? That's what we're going to talk about. What? Sam's like laughing and shaking his head. The huckster? Yeah. What's you going to do, brother? I mean, it's a shoe fits. She's the huckster.

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It is what it is. Don't fight me. All right. Then we'll also talk about the DSA, you know, these socialists doing socialist things. We'll also talk about... A lot of teaching stuff. I got a lot of everybody's going back to school and we're getting a lot of teaching stuff. And I was, I did a lot of show prep last night on Jay Jones Twitter account, Joan Jay Jones, WTN. And she's been posting a lot of teacher videos. And I, so I ganked them. And I'm going to use it as my own original content later on in the show. Yeah. You're welcome to them. I don't know how you watch any of these videos and don't find yourself as like. wanting to homeschool. Yeah. She's sharpening the blade for the tires. She's going to slash. You know, but, I mean, some of these teachers, like, and then there's also, like, some of it was performative. Like, I did see the one that you posted with the teacher that was, like, crying, like, the girl man that was crying. And the guy, the older man? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You think that's performative? I do think that I was performative. Did you see his eyes? His eyes were bloodshot red. He looked like this just was taking a toll on him. I would just say you're a grown man, get yourself together before you post a video of yourself crying on social media. I concur. Like, I just, it might have made him so upset to cry, but he didn't have to post it. You can still be an adult male. I disagree. I felt my heart broke for that guy. Well, that's what he was going after you. He was going for that. You were his target audience. I know. Suicidal empathy. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, but I look at these schools and I'm like, there's so many issues and it's before we even get to that point. So we'll talk about the school stuff. There's also some Nashville stuff in there as well. One teacher walking out. She's quitting because of how bad it is. So we'll talk about the school stuff. I know homeschooling is not an option for everybody. I trust me when I tell you that I know it. But if it is an option for you, I would just say it's not as hard as you think. It's just not. I was talking with my wife last night and, you know, she's very pregnant at this point. Not as pregnant as she's going to be. But she's getting there. You know what I'm saying? Does that make sense? It does. Okay. She's pregnant enough, trust me, for her own liking. Because she can weaponize it. But there will be more pregnant to follow. Does that mean further weaponization? I don't know. She's actually been pretty chill. She's due one in November? Yeah, she's due on Thanksgiving. Okay, there you go. So I'm hoping. Right now it sucks. Like I feel for her. But it's not as bad as it could be. You know what I mean? Yes. Like it's super hot. But when Brooks was born, my oldest son, he was born on August 28th. So his birthday's in two weeks. That was ridiculous. I mean, dealing with the tendency heat that pregnant, it's a little bit different. There's levels to this game. You understand? So, but we were talking about the schooling.

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And to everybody that thinks that homeschooling is too hard, my wife literally said, this would be so much harder if we weren't homeschooling. Like there is an element of homeschooling being easier. I know it feels like a daunting task, but just to understand that you are very well equipped to do it. If you ever have felt like dipping your toe in that pool and you've ever felt that pull on your heart, I'm here to tell you. you are fully equipped to do that. And then it's actually a lot easier. We were talking, it was like the amount of homework that we had to do at the private school, it feels like that's the amount of work that we're doing homeschooling. So you're already doing it, just for starters. And then you don't have to wake up at the butt crack of dawn and fly out the door and get all the kids ready to go to school and drag them out, kicking and screaming, and make three different breakfasts because one kid didn't want to scrambled eggs and one kid's cereal got too mushy. You know what I mean? All the things that you've got to deal with in the morning. It does make it easier. You are equipped if you're feeling like... This is too much for you this year with the woke stuff or the school isn't doing a good enough job. Make other arrangements. You can do it. So we'll talk about all that in a little bit. I do want to begin with something that I feel like I'm wondering when this topic comes up, like why we're still doing this, but I understand that we are unraveling the mess that was made from administrations previous to us. The conversation on transgender surgeries and minors isn't over. It is essentially where we're at. We've had a lot of monumental wins as conservatives in this country protecting these kids, but it's not over for a long shot. And there was a report that was released yesterday. The Wolves in White Coats. The U.S. Soccer Podcast. These players are battered and exhausted, but you don't hurt like this if you don't care about this team, about this country, about this game. You can feel the intensity, the goals, the energy that, wow, look at us. Here in the U.S., I have got some news for you. There's so much more to come. My name is Megan Klingberg, and we're just getting started. The U.S. Soccer Podcast, presented by Henkel. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. How doctors and hospitals pushed and profited from the fraud of gender medicine. It was released yesterday by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s HHS, and JD Vance has played a big part in this, and it's been sent to the DOJ for criminal referrals. They're saying that there were financial incentives and captive parents. And while a lot of us are going, duh, It is very, very important for a government document, an official government document, to have this in black and white. So that way we can point to it and say, see what we're talking about. This isn't a right-wing conspiracy theory. This is what we've been talking about for years.

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There is so much financial incentive to make a patient for life. And in this report, it details what the average cost of these procedures per year looks like and what the average cost of a regular miner who doesn't get the hormone blockers or the bits removed, what that looks like. The average, the average. health insurance costs for a minor who is a healthy boy or girl just going about their days, $3,000, okay? $3,000 a year, which I looked at and I was like, that feels a little high. But just for the sake of the report, they said $3,000. In the report, it talks about how that $3,000 just completely flies up. Once you start getting into these procedures, and nationwide all-payer claims data shows nearly $120 million in billed charges for sex-rejecting procedures on minors since 2019. More than 5,500 surgical procedures, 8,500 courses of hormones or puberty blockers. Top billers include major children's hospitals across the country, including Mount Sinai in New York and Boston Children's Hospital. These people are sick. They were doing this for a reason. The average yearly cost cited roughly $545 for androgens, $735 for estrogen, $16,385 for puberty blockers. Then you get into the surgeries when they start removing boobs, when they're doing the mastectomies, the mammoplasties, the falloplasties. You're looking at, excuse me, $12,000 to over $130,000 a year. This is a money-making outfit, and it needs to be shut down. Then it goes even further, and it says that in this report, to skirt some of the language, providers allegedly use diagnosis codes that did not accurately reflect patients' conditions so that way they could secure the insurance coverage for these interventions. It's insurance fraud. Nearly $50 million billed between 2015 and 2025 for puberty blockers given to patients aged 9 to 17 under the endocrine disorder unspecified code. And it excludes the legitimate indication of the precocious puberty. Nearly $11 million billed, including to Medicaid and Medicare for puberty blockers given to hundreds of patients, 13 to 17, under a precrocious puberty diagnosis. By definition, Listen to this, precocious puberty doesn't happen to anyone over 13. So you put this down as the diagnosis for hundreds of patients aged 13 to 17, but the definition says it doesn't happen if you're over 13. Right to jail. Thank you. They all should go to jail. This is like crimes against humanity status. What they've done to these children and these parents. We had Chloe Cole in here a couple weeks back.

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And if you've never seen the interview, you've never heard of Chloe Cole's story, it's on the YouTube page. It lives there. You should go check it out. She talks about how the medical industrial complex literally fearmongered her parents into falling for the SIOP. And they said her parents were, she said her parents were very hesitant about all of this. But as soon as they got in the doctor's office, because at the end of the day, these parents loved their daughter and wanted to help her, the doctor rushed in like she's George Clooney on ER. And she says, do you want your daughter to become your son? Or do you want your daughter to suicide herself? It's like, what? Those are my options? That's it. Those are the options. It's sick what they did to these kids. It's sick what they did to a lot of these parents. Now, a lot of the parents, they went along with it for virtue signaling reasons because they were so stunning and so brave. But there were a lot of parents who just loved their kids and got duped. And that's what we're learning from this report. Eight firsthand testimonies describe weak clinical safeguards and informed consent processes. Recurring themes include rapid medicalization after distress related to a child's sex, insufficient evaluation of underlying psychological, developmental, social, or trauma factors, limited discussion of irreversible effects, pressure on parents to approve the treatment, like I just talked about. Adverse physical and psychological outcomes. Major difficulty obtaining care after stopping treatment or detransitioning. That's another point that never gets talked about. There's a growing, growing detransitioner community online. They don't get the time of day. They get shunned. Worse than an Amish that wants to use a light switch. And... They're shouted down. They're told that their concerns aren't real, and then no doctors want to help them at all. Chloe Cole outlined that exact same thing. You're in Jonestown, right? I am in Jonestown. Because Sam keeps putting up an empty newsroom back there whenever you're doing a newscast. Oh, that's nice. I switched the deck over, forgot to put the text up. On the YouTube, a little bit of trolling. Yep. We like to do a little bit of trolling. The text line was mad at you. You got the stream up late. I know. I was late. I blame the program. Mason's late. Everything's late. It's Friday. It's Friday. Well, to be fair. I said to Mason, go get me and Sam and you breakfast and be late today. But it's no excuse other than the fact that I asked him to be late to get breakfast for us. Breakfast. I did it. That was my fault. Totally. We appreciate Sam being. Joan, I would have got you something, but you're in Jonestown. That's okay. I had a little bit of bacon and eggs this morning. All right. Let's go. Let's go. Some of that Islam repellent.

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Savage. Absolute savage. All right, let's talk about the numbers. JD Vance, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.., saying that hospitals who billed for a transgender operation for a child were making about $170,000 per kid through the course of their life. The report says the average health care cost for a minor is roughly $3,000. But... For minors receiving transgender treatments, that number climbs to $75,000. If that minor elects transition surgery, it climbs to $170,000. So the question isn't just what happened, but whether or not anyone broke the law. And now, Vice President JD Vance is referring the report to the... He's referring to the report to the DOJ. They are going to figure out if anyone broke the law. And when you look at some of the fraud in here and how they've been cracking down on fraud, I wouldn't be surprised if we do see some criminal charges because of the fraudulent coding, especially when it comes to Medicaid and Medicare. We were talking about the HHS releasing a report, exposing fraudulent insurance coding for sex rejecting procedures on minors. This is the kind of stuff that we talk about, and it'll probably get us throttled on some of the platforms, right? The director of algorithm tickling is back there now. If I say that miners shouldn't have their bits chopped off, is that going to be de-incentivized on YouTube? I'm getting a nod. He's nodding. That's why we have you here. When I talk about the gender affirming surgeries, that's going to get me in trouble on YouTube, right? Yeah, probably. Well, to be fair, Tim Burchett flashed his gun collection last night, and I was worried that we were going to take it down off for that. Wait, Tim Burchett flashed his gun collection last night? It's just in the background while he was doing the interview with Murphy yesterday, and Jackson texted me was like, hey, so Tim Burchett showed all his guns. We might get taken down. I was like, okay. I'll be watching, let me know. And he goes, uh, heads up. He just did it again. Somehow we would figure out how to blame Mandus for that. Oh, for sure. We would have, it would be the mandis gymnastics to make it happen, but we would make it happen. I promise. I mean, he was talking about tasing the host earlier today. So like, this is true. Yeah, he did a whole, he did a whole poll on who should be electrocuted first. So weird. I should have won. We didn't have producers involved. I think all of you. I think we could. Can we just all vote me? I kind of. If they, okay. So I would, I would absolutely get tased by those Batman gloves. Yeah. As on one condition, I need to clear everything out first. You know what I'm saying? Get a bathroom break in first. I need a bathroom break and I need a few hours of like no liquids. No fiber. No fiber. You know what I'm saying? Does that make sense? Like, I'm not afraid to, I'm a man, so I'm not afraid to cry. I'm a man. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to crap myself. Yeah, no, that's understandable. You know? Just everything seizes up. You never know.

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All right, so back to the matter at hand before we got, I don't know how we got sidetracked. Would that get us in trouble on YouTube if I was crapping my pants? Well, no. No, people have used like stun canes and stuff on YouTube on each other. It's just a prank, bro. Just for fun. HHS, released a report yesterday that the wolves in white coats exposing fraudulent insurance coating for sex rejecting procedures on minors. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, this is from HHS.gov. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services today released a report, Wolves and White Coats, how doctors and hospitals pushed and profited from the fraud of gender medicine, a commissioned report examining insurance coding practices, perverse financial incentives, and the provision of sex rejecting procedures for minors. I like how they've changed the wording, right? It's no longer gender affirming. It's sex rejecting. Words matter. And this is the first time I've seen the sex rejecting language in the public sphere, and I'm a big fan of it. Because you're not affirming who they really are. You're rejecting the sex that God gave them. So I think that that's apropos. So the sex rejecting procedures for minors. Drawing on centers for Medicare and Medicaid services, guidance department of justice, investigations, peer-reviewed scientific literature, hospital records, whistleblower testimony, nationwide insurance claims analysis, and interviews with patients and parents. The report presents HHS's findings and recommendations about the industry pushing and profiting off of so-called gender medicine. There's a short form documentary illustrating the report's findings and highlighting the stories of the victims of predatory gender medical practices also released in conjunction with the report. And it's about 12 minutes long. It doesn't have enough views yet. I'll tweet it out in case you want to watch it because it should be watched. But this is just the beginning of that video.

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And it starts with the Hippocratic Oath, and it says on the screen, I will abstain from all harm. What is it say? Hold on. I'm trying to scroll back. Do it live on the air, they said. I will abstain from all intentional wrongdoing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, the Hippocratic Oath. Do no harm. This video is based on a report commissioned by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Some images may not be appropriate for young viewers. Viewer discretion is advised. So, before we start the questions, like tell me a little bit about yourself. My name's Clementine. I'm from Los Angeles. I'm currently a student at UCLA right now. I love writing. I'm 21 years old as well. What are some of the health problems that you experienced while you were on treatments and after surgery? And I know those are probably, that's probably a tough question, but thank you for talking about it. Yeah, of course. Obviously, I dealt with a lot of complications from being on puberty blockers before I hit puberty. I have constant joint pain and bone density loss as well. It didn't explain to me the potential lifelong consequences. Did it feel like you were leading the process? Or did it feel like someone or someone else were leading you in the process? I started seeing a guidance counselor at my school. She started telling me you might be suffering from gender dysphoria. It's just evil. She has bone density problems. Started with the guidance counselor at the public school. Shocker. Anybody stunned? Anybody surprised? No, of course not. If you want to watch the whole mini documentary again, it's about 12 minutes long. Start your day with the morning jolt of Drake C. Toll. See, now it's on demand. My podcast is kind of a radio thing, I think, but also it's a bit of a TV show, and it's about whatever I want it to be. It's listening live as it happened, when it happened, with the instant reaction. You're home for talking sports. We go back, the Great Toll Show, Westwood One Sports Network, and there will be on demand on your radio. Anywhere in the country, I'll see you there. Westwood One Sports Talk, your home for Drake C. Toll. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. It shockingly only has a few thousand views on YouTube. I would imagine that's because YouTube isn't exactly pushing that out to the masses. So if you want to find it, find me on X. At Chris Hand on Air. I have tweeted it out. It's directly from the Department of Health and Human Services. And according to the report, more than 225 hospitals and health systems established pediatric gender programs nationwide. The report also analyzes nationwide claims data from 2015 through 2025 and identifies approximately $50 million in insurance claims for puberty blockers billed using endocrine disorder diagnostic code e34.9 endocrine disorder unspecified. It further reports that nearly $11 million in claims for patients age 13 to 17 were billed using a diagnosis code for precocious puberty. even though that can't happen after year 13. Pursuant to the recommendation today, Vice President JD Vance as chairman of the White House Task Force to eliminate fraud and Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. referred these hospitals and clinics identified by the report to the Department of Justice, respectively for possible violations of federal law.

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is quoted as saying doctors and hospitals must put children's health ahead of ideology and financial gain. This report identifies troubling billing practices that demand scrutiny. HHS will follow the evidence, protect taxpayers, and hold accountable anyone who broke the law or violated the trust of patients and families. Under President Trump's leadership, we're restoring transparency and integrity to American medicine. The report recommends that federal and state agencies review coding and billing practices, strengthen oversight of claims submitted to public health programs, and refer suspicious billing activity for appropriate investigation when warranted. Dr. Oz weighed in as well. He's the CMS administrator. He said CMS is a duty to ensure taxpayer dollars are spent lawfully and honestly. When billing practices obscure, what care was actually provided, especially when children are involved? We have an obligation to follow the facts. We will protect the integrity of our programs, demand accountability, and make sure the American people are not footing the bill for sex rejecting procedures that inflict potentially irreversible harm on young patients. The report's claim analysis draws on nation. nationwide insurance billing data and reviews federal medical coding guidance to examine billing patterns associated with purity blockers prescribed to minors. The report recommends continued oversight of insurance coding practices and appropriate review of billing activity that may warrant further investigation under applicable federal and state authorities. Assistant Secretary for Health Admiral Brian Christine said our responsibility as health professionals, first and foremost, is to do no harm. As HHS Commission report, Wolves and White Coates details the medical establishment created what the report describes as captive patients, placing vulnerable children on a path toward potentially lifelong medical interventions. Under the Trump administration, HHS, is committed to protecting children from irreversible sex-rejecting procedures following the evidence and restoring trust in American medicine. The report recommends strengthening oversight of insurance and coding practices, enhancing program integrity, and ensuring appropriate review of potentially improper billing practices. Yesterday on Fox News, JD Vance was on with Will Kane. And he weighed in on the findings in the report. And JD Vance, I mean, you can tell that this bothers him. He's got young children himself. And anyone, I mean, I think I would say anyone, but there's a lot of people that have pushed this on the young children. But most people with young children understand that they don't have the mental capacity to be making these decisions that are going to alter them for the rest of their life. I would imagine that if you were a sane individual. you would come to that same conclusion. And what we have seen over the past years is something completely backwards. JD Vance exposed it on Fox News. By an insurance industry, by some physicians, and by others who are getting rich from these procedures. If you just look at things like endocrine disruptors, these hormone therapies that we're giving to kids, again, a lot of them completely irreversible causing long-term damage to these kids. We know that some of the pharmaceutical companies were getting rich by...

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encouraging doctors to prescribe these therapies off-label. And one of the things that we've worked on with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., obviously that was just announced, I know that you're covering it, and I appreciate it, is that sometimes the doctors and the insurers were mislabeling these treatments in order to get financial reward, even though they weren't being honest about what they were doing. Because, of course, if they were being honest, if they were going to the insurers and saying, well, we're actually butchering these kids, then that might have raised some alarm bells. in the medical system. Instead, they said that they were treating for endocrine disorders or for certain pubescent disorders. And that was allowing them to list medical codes in the billing that allowed them to make money off of these kids suffering while simultaneously avoiding any real scrutiny. And we really see this will as part of our broader effort to fight fraud. There's just so much fraud in our country. But unfortunately, one of the biggest purveyors of fraud. was the small number of doctors, people who were getting wealthy by actually doing these procedures on kids, lying about the medical implications of it, and collecting rewards for it. It's sick. I mean, I think jail for these people is a moderate solution. I think there's going to be a special place in hell reserve for these butchers, and that's what they are. They were doing experimental Dr. Frankenstein science on these kids. with no regard for their well-being. It's just sick. I mean, I have young kids. You know that. You know, and it's like, even my older kids, like, no, absolutely not. What are you talking about? Why would you do this to a child? Like, there has to be something really messed up in your mind. Truly. And JD Vance kept going. He said these kids would be lied to by someone in the medical community. Their parents would be lied to by someone in the medical community. And all of this really does need to stop. Like, they should be outlawed. They should be outlawed in all 50 states. Label it as something else as treating an indecrine disorder, then you can get a lot of money, even though you're doing something very experimental and very untested. And again, this is why I say it really was two things happening simultaneously. I mean, you know, we know that there were 12-year-old girls, especially because it was more common among girls than boys that happened with both, but it was more common with girls than boys. They'd get on social. media, they take feelings that were kind of normal for any adolescent, a certain discomfort with your body, with the changes that happen during adolescence. But then they would be lied to by some in the medical community told that if you let us do these procedures, these procedures that are going to make some of the doctors a lot of money, then somehow that's going to fix what you're feeling. And to expand on what he's talking about with the social media, it's called love bombing, right? And it happens on Reddit or Discord or Tumblr to, is Tumblr still big? It happened a lot on Tumblr back in the day. Happened on Tumblr and 4chan. And even in people's like friend affirming stuff on like Instagram or Facebook messages. I just think one of the worst things that you can do for your girl's body image is allow them on social media. But, but.

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That's a broader conversation. For the immediate, when you're talking about love bombing, yes, every single kid in the history of the world between 12 and what, 16, 12 and 18, feel uncomfortable in their body at some point. And you would get online and they would be, they would say something like, oh, I don't, I don't know. I don't feel like myself. I don't, I don't look good in these clothes. And then somebody would just chime in and be like, well, what if you're actually the opposite sex? And they'd be like, oh, I don't know. I never thought about that before. Well, cut your hair short. And the girl would cut her hair short. Oh, my gosh, you look great. You look amazing. That really fits you. That really suits you. You should try to dress more. Androgynous. You should try to dress more like a male than a new picture would be posted. Oh my gosh. This looks amazing. You look so good. Those dopamine receptors start firing. They start feeling better about themselves. They haven't gotten compliments like this in a while. And that's how it starts. And that snowball starts rolling downhill. And it starts picking up steam and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And then they find themselves in a guidance counselor's office at school. And that guidance counselor, that guidance counselor isn't going to have the conversation with the parents the way they should. In some cases, the guidance counselor wasn't going to have a conversation with the parents at all. And then they say, you know, this is really you. We should explore this. We should affirm this. And that conversation with a guidance counselor maybe eventually leads to a conversation with mom and dad. It gets to a point where you're in the doctor's office. And then in the doctor's office, again, like we talked about with Chloe Cole, just a few months back on this show, who is just, she's an absolute hero for the bravery that she displays with the willingness to tell the story because there's many people that have the same story that just don't even want to address it. She gets in that doctor's office and they say, ma'am, you can either let your daughter become a boy or she's going to kill herself. That's like, excuse me? A lot of parents are hit with that and they don't know what the hell to do. They are stunned. They have not seen this process build for whatever reason. And now they're just gobsmacked right there in the middle of the doctor's office. It's sick. Some of the parents are all in. For virtue signaling, they got the woke mind virus, you name it. But no matter how you slice it, this is child abuse. It always has been. It always will be. And it should be outlawed in all 50 states. The U.S. Soccer Podcast. These players are battered and exhausted, but you don't hurt like this if you don't care about this team, about this country, about this game. You can feel the intensity, the goals, the energy that, wow, look at us. Here in the U.S., I have got some news for you. There's so much more to come. My name is Megan Klingberg, and we're just getting started. The U.S. Soccer Podcast, presented by Henkel. Follow and listen on your favorite platform.