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Here we go on a Thursday afternoon, Shad Hartman, Dave Harrigan, News Talk, 830 WCCO. Guess right at the start, the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, is here, like all guests on the John Schuster, Caldwell Banker Hotline. Jacob, as always, thanks so much. You announced yesterday that a $2.3 million budget. That will require an 11.3% increase in a property tax levy and the elimination of 100 positions and also bringing some departments together. How did we get here? And if you're a resident of Minneapolis who's angry about the property tax levy, what do you say to that individual? Thanks so much for having me, Chad. 2.3 billion. I believe you said million. If it were a million, that would be a godman. Oh, I'm sorry. If I said a million. No worries at all. I know what you were getting at. You know, here's the bottom line here. We are experiencing in this year's budget, the repercussions of the low that we hit about two years ago. So. There's a bit of a lag time when real estate values go down. That took place in the latter part of 2024. We hit the low point then. And now, yeah, it's hitting our budget. So even though things are getting significantly better, even though vacancies are going down, businesses are coming back, people are getting back into the office, et cetera, we will feel that trajectory in two years from now. So for those that are frustrated about it, you know, look, I get it. They're right. We were certain coming in here that the two biggest critiques coming out of this budget are that the cuts are too deep. and that the cuts are not deep enough, and that is exactly what's playing out now. You know, we cut a ton, I mean, millions and millions of dollars worth of contracts. We cut 100 staff positions. We've consolidated operations, changed departments around to improve efficiencies. And still, yeah, there's the reality of where we are now. And look, it's my job to not just announce it, but try to show how we get through this two-year ring of fire that we're going to punch through here. And, you know, look, the decisions are mine. I own them, and they're the right ones. In hindsight, do you believe you should have done anything different? knowing that the lack of individuals coming downtown and the property values were decreasing, is there something you could have adjusted over the last few years so the increases or the loss of jobs would not have been as dramatic?

Well, Chad, as you know, I tried to, I did veto the budget a year and a half ago. And I believed that the budget was irresponsible and that it did not do right by the taxpayers. And I was overridden. And, you know, that's the, these are some of the tools that I've got in our toolkit. And simultaneously, there are things that we didn't anticipate. We didn't anticipate having three to four thousand ice agents come into our city. We didn't anticipate Operation Metro Surge. You know, overtime expenses obviously go up when there is a crisis in Minneapolis and you have to account for them. And federal funding is not as certain as it used to be. You know, we used to have the assurance that we would get grants to the tune of around $70 million a year. We no longer have that assurance. And so, yeah, we've got to be. smarter fiscally. We've got to be more efficient with the way we're operating right now. And my ask and my invitation to council members is, hey, let's work together. We've got to acknowledge the reality of where we are. And, you know, obviously budgets are about values, but the value that we've got to hold ahead of all of the rest right now is stewardship. Like we need to steward. the city through these next couple of years and get to, again, where the trajectory is already going. This is the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, kind enough to join us. Adam Carter, show before ours, had Paul Ostroan, a former council member, like you were a former council member before you became mayor. And he was on with Adam. He said, I understand the difficulties the mayor he's facing right now. But he wanted you to be even more dramatic to eliminate more groups, to combine more groups, to make this more of a long-lasting, significant change in the city. Did you consider more dramatic changes to the point where they would have been more permanent and more significant than what you've done, at least at this point? Did he suggest anything specific? He did. I don't have the full list in front of me, but he felt like a number of other aspects of the running of the city could have been combined. I don't know it well enough. The two of you would know it better than I, but obviously you spent a lot of time on this with your staff. Did you think about even going further? Oh, we thought about everything. Everything was on the table. If Paul Ostro has specific suggestions, he could shoot us an email and tell us about him. You know, a lot of times cuts that you...

perceived to have an impact on the budget, don't actually have an impact on the budget, you know. So there are, sometimes a position is funded by a grant. Sometimes the position is funded by a different source that doesn't impact the taxpayer directly. And so you say, hey, we don't need this job. Let's cut it. But then that cut wouldn't actually drive down taxes, if that makes sense. So, yeah, if Paul Astros got some suggestions, God bless, you know, I'll take them. Of course, we looked at going deeper. I'm happy to go deeper to the extent that it doesn't impact core city service. That was the goal here. The DSA side of the city council that you and that group don't always agree, what's your sense on how they're going to react to this budget proposal? Well, you know, again, I don't want to speak for them. My hope is that we're going to find a lot of alignment because, again, there aren't many options here. This is just the right thing to do to acknowledge the reality that we're in right now and to get Minneapolis through to the next two years. Again, the city is coming back in a massive way. We're just dealing the repercussions from two years ago. You know, look, I imagine that there will be some on the council. I bet about half the council is going to say deeper cuts and about half the council is going to say you cut too much. But again, once you get into the specifics, believe me, it's going to get a lot harder. If you believe there's deeper cuts, okay, to what? If you believe that you want to, you know, get rid of the cuts that we already made, in other words, replenish them. Okay, well, you then got to consider that that will increase people's property taxes. We don't have a magic calculator here. And so, again, my job is just to tell you the truth. And we did that in the budget yesterday. And I'm very optimistic. Again, if you looked at the, you know, strong majority of the speech, a lot of it was saying, hey, city is coming back beautifully right now. But we've got to be realistic about where our budget is and account for the fact that we don't have a federal government here that's going to come in to just help us. You've made this point a number of times here and elsewhere that the city. He's coming back in a significant way. For the folks who are objective about this,

and they say, I don't know about that. I need to see more results. Not the folks who have just said, I'm never going downtown. It's a hellhole. That's utterly ridiculous. They're just wrong. I'll just flat out say it. But for the folks who want to see more tangible results to back up the words you're saying and what you see on a regular basis, what will they see the next six, 12, 18 months to back up what you're offering up? Well, those are the folks I'm trying to reach right now. Look, there's a group of people that just, I mean, they've lived for generations in Minneapolis. They love Minneapolis. They think, you know, they understand what we got going here. And yeah, there's another crew, of course, that will bash Minneapolis at every opportunity. It's the people that are saying, hey, we need to make some improvements and we want to see some tangible results. That's who I want to reach. And first, I'd say to them, look, in the first quarter of 2026, vacancies are down by 150,000 square feet in downtown alone. And so what that means is that there's 150,000 square feet of office space that is occupied now. that wasn't occupied at the beginning of the year. And that was just the first quarter. I imagine you probably saw another 100,000 square feet in the second quarter. And so, I mean, that's as objective as you can get. We are seeing businesses opening. We are seeing people come back into work. And we're making some real progress on that front. There's a couple areas, including on crime where we need to make more progress and happy to discuss that as well. Okay, let's jump in on that. What is your assessment of crime and the overall city so far this year? You've got areas where we're seeing some success. You've got areas where we're not. You know, last year we saw numbers trend down basically across the board. This year it's a bit more nuanced. Here's what we are seeing, though, and it's a problem. Juveniles committing some pretty serious crimes. In some cases, they're with a gun and it's violence. In other cases, it's more than just a nuisance when you've got these smashing grabs that are preventing people from enjoying the city and coming in and having a great night out. And so... You know, I think, again, this is another area where we've got to be really straightforward and honest. I'm all for diversion. I'm all for making sure that, you know, these kids have second chances, but I'm not just going to tolerate someone jacking somebody's car with a gun repeatedly and not have any consequences for it. There needs to be.

Are the laws strong enough on the books or are the folks not enforcing the laws strong enough? Our police officers are making arrests. Our police officers are conducting investigations. They're gathering evidence. There is a law that is presently on the books that went into effect at the beginning of August that we're still trying to figure out how to deal with it. And it's for the detention of juveniles. And in some cases, it prevents us from doing so. There's also just the reality that it's not enough to have an arrest. There needs to be some form of prosecution. And I think it should be acknowledged both that we need compassionate places for juveniles that are committing crimes. It's not just a regular prison, you know, where they're in with full-blown adults. You need that. But again, you can't have everybody else in the community, including the kid themselves that is put in danger because these crimes keep getting committed. And so, you know, I do think that we need to be very clear-eyed about this. I do think we need to make sure that people that are getting arrested again and again and again actually get prosecuted. Needs to happen. Let me ask you about Todrick Barnett. He is going to leave when the year ends as the community safety commissioner. He was twice rejected by the city council. He was in a bit of limbo. Are you going to fill that position when Toddrick Barnett leaves? Yes, I am. To have a person that is coordinating these services is of really critical importance. This office has gone through some change, obviously, in the last several years. And I'm so proud of the work that Commissioner Barnett has done. He is a person that is just packed full of integrity and something that we saw even in the budget that we delivered yesterday. Look, we've had programs that we've tried out that have been successful. We've had programs that we've tried out that have not. And I feel that Todd has done a great job navigating that. And what he is is honest. He'll acknowledge it when things are going poorly and we shift routes. And he'll also make sure that we're counting it when we're seeing successes. It would save you a lot of money, though, if you didn't fulfill that position, right? Do you think the city would be notably less safe if you didn't have someone that position?

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We're down there almost every day. I'm not today due to some extenuating circumstances. But, Dave, I still see a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, town. But I will say this, the two of us, some on air, but we're off air. I think we've commented, and Carter and Susie in this conversation a lot too. It does seem to me. And it's more, you know, what we're seeing with our eyes as opposed to the data that Jacob Frey offered up. That Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, to me, seemed busier than they were a year ago. Or even in the spring. What do you think? I would add Fridays to that list, too. I think Fridays are busier than they used to be. I think Mondays are clearly the lightest day. At least it's obvious to me traffic-wise, especially when I leave here after the show. It's a breeze getting home, whereas other days it's just slower on 94. But it certainly, I mean, every day is busier than it was, you know, one, two years ago easily. Yep. Mary Moriarty is the problem. It's pretty clear. That's who Jacob was referring to. Okay. This show has been very clear. I don't think she's lived up to the requirements of the job. I think the punishment has been too soft on repeat offenders, including kids. And I think Hennepin County and law enforcement has a chance to be in a better position with someone new, although to me, Andersfolk is going to be harder on some of those kids than Cedric Frazier because it seems like, you know, seems like he's a bit in line with what Mary's saying, you know, and that is a huge issue. And again, there's a lot of blame on the mayor for the repeat juvenile offenders. What is he supposed to do in that area? Right. They arrest them. Okay. They don't then decide what the punishment should be or if there is punishment. I get it. You need to have more police. You need to find ways to try to slow the crime before it happens or have enough police officers out there when you know that criminality is taking place. But. Last time I checked, I don't think the mayor then goes into court and files charges or decides if those charges should be filed, Dave. I don't think Minneapolis is rather unique in that area. I think he tries the cases too. Yeah. Is he the judge also? Yeah, judge, jury, prosecutor. He does it all. It's a great, I mean, a lot going on, but he does a nice job with it. And let me be clear, that does not take any mayor completely off the hook. for safety issues. It does not. He has to own it. He gets whatever benefit, and he gets the blame. But he's not in court. You know, we got to put that in a little bit of perspective. Twins are playing where tonight will remind you set up our next conversation related to that topic. When we come back on the home of the twins, CCM.

Feel the Dreams and the Twins tonight. They're playing in Dyersville, Iowa. Twins and Phillies. Ball game you'll hear here on CCO. Isn't it on Apple? Is that what I've spotted? Netflix. Netflix. Okay. Got it. So that leads us to a topic we both were thinking of. greatest sports movie of all time. Greatest sports movie all time. Everybody has an opinion on this one. 651-461-9-226. What do you have as the greatest sports movie of all time since the twins are playing Kevin Costner? James Earl Jay Jones, Ray Leota, Field of Dreams. Zero to ten, Dave Harrigan. Field of Dreams. I loved that movie as a kid. I watched a billion times. I'm going to say it is a seven. We're in sync. I really like it. I may not love it, but I think it's very well done. It was relatable. You could take it as deep as you wanted to. Maybe even 7 plus. Maybe 7 on the edge 8. It's a very good movie. So I found Rolling Stones top 30 sports movies of all time. Let's go through a little bit of the list. Should I just start at number one as opposed to building up? What do you want me to do? I want you to start at number 23. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Number one. Let's get the big dog out of the way. Exactly. Let's do the opposite. We're building drama. Let's just, you know, like you, ruin the drama right away. Hoop Dreams, number one. This is the William Bill Gates, Arthur Agee, as they're trying to show themselves to be basketball stars. It's fantastic. Loved it. That has to be on the list, right? Yes, it does have to be on the list. Number one, no, but put it on the list. No. Whoa. How about number two? This has to be in the conversation for top five. The original Rocky. You know how I feel about the original Rocky. Well, you're wrong, because the original Rocky is a tremendous movie. If you like a nap, or in the middle of it. Oh, my God. Who hurt you? What's wrong with you? I'm sorry. It's, what, two and a half hours long? And until you get to the fight, most of it is just a snooze fest. It is. Storyline. This guy who's doing nothing in his life. He's struggling. Doing nothing. That sounds like most of the movie. And Apollo Creed picks him, and we find out about Mickey, the gal, the gal's obnoxious brother, Apollo, what's going to happen? Gonna fly now. I mean, come on. You don't like the underdog. You just like going with, you like going with Apollo. You like going with the winners, the superstars, the bullies. That's what you didn't like about the movie. I could have cut 45 minutes out of that movie and made it better.

The Bad News Bears three. Fantastic. I mean, this is so Wheelhouse for me. Ninety-six. God, I'm old. God, I hate saying this. Eleven years old, playing Little League with Walter Beth out and his lack of effort and Kelly League and Tatum O'Neill and the other smack talkers on the team. Now, you're a... Megalomaniac coach, so you probably don't like that because Walter doesn't take it serious enough. It's a very, very enjoyable movie. Number four, Raging Bull. Too comedic for me. You know, lighthearted. Yeah, it's a bit silly. Tremendous, right? I mean, as Jake LaMata. De Niro and Scorsese, one of the 7,000 movies they've worked together, the transformation, the LaMada story. That's way up there. Next, despite Chevy Chase almost ruining the movie. Get out. Because he's a lonesome person. Caddyshack, number five. Ty Webb is a loathsome person in a lot of ways. He's perfect for play tie. Number six, Bull Durham. Is that Dave Harrigan's number one? baseball sports movie. Yes. Yes, it is. I had a high school baseball coach who turned me on to that one. I had never seen it, and he would quote the manager and the assistant coach all the time during practices and games. And so I just started loving it for that reason, but it's got everything you want in a baseball, a sports, and a little relationship-y movie, too. Number seven is the only movie my father brought me to and then remove me from the movie. What movie is it, Dave Eric? I remember the story. Ah, that would be Paul Newman and the Hanson brothers in Slapshot. That's it. That is it. Now, if Louis was here, he would probably say. That was because of the hockey movie, and your father didn't like hockey. Yeah, that's probably true. I'm not eliminating that. It's playing a role. But boobs are us. I think my father was troubled by that a little bit. Okay. And Slapshot is hysterical. It's also overrated. Oh, God, honestly, you're in timeout. Go to time out. Sorry, it's overrated. There's some funny stuff, but okay, it's seven on the list. Perpetual, funny stuff. Oh, Mr. Highbrow, Mr. McNeil-Layer, you know, go to the library, you know. Eight. I'll go through 10 and then we'll go to the texters. When we were Kings. Ollie, Foreman.

Rumble in the jungle, the brilliance, the character, the personality of Muhammad, and the country rallying to him, that's way up on my list also. Yeah, great done. Yeah, I never saw the Senate. What an amazing Formula One racer he became. And he's the one who suffers the catastrophic injury, right? I think that's Senna. I may be wrong. And then get out of here with this one. Friday Night Lights. The television show is immensely better than the movie. And maybe that's what I'm saying. It's an okay movie. Now, it's our guy, Buzz Bissinger. Buzz used to come on the show a lot. I hope Buzz is okay. He's had some demons in his life. But I know, did you see the movie and are you with me? The television show is just so much better. I saw the TV show before the movie. I liked the TV show very much. Then saw the movie and said, eh, it's fine. I'm with you. TV show better. What do you have on your list, the greatest sports movie of all time with the twins in Dyersville playing the Phillies? What do you want to offer up? 6-5-1-461-9-2-2-6. I can look out right now and see these amazing pillow windows. I could probably wash these windows a little bit more. I've got to be honest. But they're the signature part. of a house they moved into last year. If you would have told me three, four years ago, I was moving. I would have said, I don't think so. I was very content, very happy, enjoyed the house. And part of the reason why I enjoyed it, the pillow windows and doors. I'm not saying it was the whole thing. You know, there are other parts of the house I like. Don't get me wrong. But the palo windows and doors continued to hold up to the point where a few years ago, I went to the showroom in Plymouth. They also have a short room in Brooklyn Park and also Woodbury. That's when I got the idea. God, I should have these folks out, check my windows, make sure everything's working, and maybe see what they'd want to add. And they improved my kitchen quite a bit when I sold the house. I heard that the new buyers loved the kitchen and those windows helped out a lot. When I moved and made sure that Pella would be a part of it, it is added to my enjoyment at this house. Pella Northland.com is where you can check out a lot of information on Pella windows and doors. Right now is such a great month. Have somebody come out. They'll come out for free. And what a deal you have available to you if you go to Pellon Northland.com. If you end up buying, how about this, 20% off your Pella project or this option, 0% APR for 72 months. Pella Windows and Doors. Do it today. Blois-Alson suggesting Dodgeball. Where does Dave Haring stand on Dodgeball? It's a very good movie.

It is a very good movie. It's a very, very funny movie. Brett has called him. Brett, you're on CCO. Hi, thanks for having me. Thank you. What do you have for us? I'm going to chime in with 42. It's got all the facts. Very good movie. And it's so particularly accurate. Yep, very well done. And you know what else is, Brett, it's a reminder that Chadwick Bozeman left us. Decades and decades too soon. I agree. Fantastic. You're a great man. Yeah, absolutely. Wasn't that jarring when we found out, are we like my four years since Chadwick passed away? Like young, vibrant. was just going to be an enormous part of the movie scene for decades. He passed away this month, August 28, 2020. It's been almost six. Wow. Man. All right. Let's get to a few here. Lots of people chiming it. Thanks so much. Miracle. Miracle's very good. There's no doubt, right? It's a tremendous movie. Kurt Russell was outstanding as were, I mean, to find all the hockey players that could act. Well done. Yep. Rudy. I didn't love Rudy. I thought it's okay. I think the younger you are, the more you appreciate that movie. The older, it's kind of, all right, too, sappy. Yeah. Brian's song. One of the, well, let's just say this. The greatest sports movie that was just on regular television. Correct. Yep. Right. And probably the greatest excuse for grown men to cry. Yeah. The Natural. Dave Harrigan says what about the natural? It's a very good movie. Still prefer other baseball movies, but it's up there. Kingpin, Dave Arrigan. I love Kingpin so much. It is. Big Earn, Ernie McCracken, Bill Murray's greatest role, and don't fight because you're wrong. It's crude, man, but there's a lot of good. Longest yard, let's separate. The original. Great. The new one, get out of here. Come on. Yeah, that's fair. Silly. This person says, is a Minnesotan Miracle Little Big League and Mighty Ducks. Little Big League and Mighty Ducks. Overrated. Major League, Texer says, because of Yucer. Eucharist's star that movie. Is there any doubt? He absolutely is. I mean, there's a lot of good stuff, though, from the manager to, I mean, Charlie Sheen, obviously, good and great in the movie. I can't remember Berringer. He's outstanding. Yeah, Jeremy Corbyn-Buranson. Did you love Jeremy Corbyn? That's right, the third basement, right? Pride of the Yankees. I mean, if we want to get emotional, for sure. Happy Gilmore and happy Gilmar 2. Get out of here on Happy Gilmart 2. Yeah. Terrible. Absolutely terrible. Somebody saying the playback on Odyssey slowed down. Can we get on that? Can we get people on that? I'll just spin the wheel a little quicker. It's tiring work, but I'll try to keep it going. The list and also this texter is trying to include the Big Lobowski.

No, you cannot include the Big Lobowski because they bowl a few times, right? Yeah, it's about guys in a sticky situation that happened to be in a bowling league. It's an amazing movie. It's tremendous, but it's not a sports movie. Just like Diehard, not a Christmas movie. Ferris Bueller went to a Cubs game. It's not a sports movie. No, no, no, no. Lots of good contenders. We appreciate it as always. Argy Hauser. What happens next in the bigger races and what surprised him most? Tom will lead us off early next hour. Here he is the Houser man. Our friend Tom Houser is with us on WCC on the John Schuster Coldwall Banker hotline. I was a pleasure. Let's approach the Minnesota political topics this way to start. All the work. You put into it and you're reporting and the polling. Considering everything that happened in the major races, what surprised you most? Oh, I would say without question, the margin of victory for Peggy Flanagan. The amount of money that was thrown at her by Angie Craig and outside groups, you know, she was outspent. I don't know what the ultimate final figure would be, but maybe two or three to one, which just shows that money is important, but it's not everything. And Peggy Flanagan had the DFL endorsement. She had the DFL machine behind her, which... is really the best to get out the vote operation, certainly in Minnesota, but among the top in the country. I agree 100%. I was hoping you're going to say something different so I could counter you, but I thought she'd win. I would be 100% lying if I said I thought she'd win by 20%. So. What are our factors here? We know progressives are having a lot of success. We know Operation Metro Surge. We know the Lake and Riley vote. Why did she so, in your opinion, Tom? just decisively blow away, Angie Craig, and what we thought would be a close race, and your polling and other polling showed us it would be close. Our polling had a dead heat three times in a row. And how... The only thing I can attribute that margin of victory, well, there's two things. There is the get out the vote machine. The Democratic Party has a lot more money than the Republican Party does to spend on efforts like that. I think they said they knocked on a million or they had a million voter contacts or something like that, just massive. But then you're right. There is this.

push toward progressives, which may have benefited Peggy Flanagan here, but then you go across the border to Wisconsin, and you have Francesca Hong, who was... very progressive and, in fact, a Democratic socialist who was up 20 plus points in the polls and ended up losing, you know, by one point, a little less than one point. So it's amazing that a neighboring state can have such a differing result when it comes to the progressive candidate. But if I had to pick two things, it's the DFL get out the vote effort and the fact that Minnesotans. seem to be pushing, at least the Democrats in Minnesota, pushing a little bit more to the left. So she's on Peggy Flanagan, the lieutenant governor. She's on Morning Joe today. And Willie Geis asked her the question that a lot of people have asked, and it is a very valid question. What is your responsibility for the amount of fraud? which took place in this state, considering you are lieutenant governor, and here's Peggy Flanagan's answer. The governor says the buck stops with him. More should have been done sooner, and I agree. And now we know that 100 people have been charged, 60 have been convicted. We know that the head of feeding our future, Amy Bach, she has received 41 years plus eight months. And to that, I say good. That matters. And we have to make sure that going forward that Donald Trump is not allowed to continue to make money hand over fist by simply, you know, being in power. These are the checks I think that Minnesotans are looking for in Washington, D.C., and those are the things that I'm going to fight for, for folks to be able to afford the lives they want to live and make sure that this out-of-control presidential administration has checks. And then as we go into 2028, we are electing a Democratic president and making sure that we've got a strong infrastructure to turn out the vote. We're growing our party, folks in. And we continue to win and recover and repair what this guy has broken. As she has, every time I've ever heard her ask that question, she takes zero accountability. None. And I don't understand that. She is in this position for a myriad of reasons, including that she is lieutenant governor. You know this very well. from your polling. The fraud story is still enormous. People are ticked off. They want more accountability. They wanted the governor to be more accountable. So how can she only take the benefit of knowing, you know, the governor's office and being involved in these things? But oh, by the way, on the biggest problem, the biggest issue, the most egregious area, oh, I had nothing to do with that.

Well, she talks about the 100 people who have been charged or whatever that number was, but she's essentially talking about 100 horses that were already out of the barn before anybody noticed that nobody had put a latch. on the barn door. Correct. All of this was happening under their very eyes. And, you know, we're not privy to what was going on in cabinet meetings or internal meetings, but this has been going on for so long. I mean, as it turns out, you know, feeding our future was, it's still the biggest of all the cases, but it was, you know, the first of many. And we've been talking about this for so long. And yet we keep hearing about stories where it continued to go on in various forms, whether it was CCAP or housing or whatever, after feeding our future. And the question is, Did she ever have an opportunity when this was coming up in meetings to say, you know, let's do something. Let's shut some of these programs down until we know what's happening, until we get a handle on that. There's no evidence that that ever happened. All right. Let's get to Michelle Tafoyam. First of all, help me out on this. I'm watching you and I'm watching others, but I watch you more than anybody else because you were outstanding. At one point, you and I think it was reported from CCO said to FOIA wasn't planning on talking Tuesday night, private party. She talked earlier. Did they just pivot on that? I didn't understand why she wouldn't talk on the night of her victory when it's a great opportunity to send her message. I think she was planning to talk all along. What I was saying was she, by having a closed... victory party or election watch party, they anticipated victory because they were way ahead in all of the polling. So it was a pretty sure thing that they were going to win. I thought it was very unusual optics that you don't have the ability for her to get up on a stage at a podium with people holding up signs and delivering even just a quick victory speech. It's great optics. You can use it in campaign ads, you know, over the next 80-some days. You can do all kinds of things instead.

They had kind of this curious strategy to, you know, close it to the media. And it was really just her and Kendall Qualls who took that approach. Kendall Qualls knew from polling. He was likely to finish third, which he did. So I can kind of understand why he didn't, you know, have a big election watch party. But I just thought it was unusual. So they did say, you know, once the results were in, you can contact us and we'll set up. an interview, but it's not the same doing a Zoom interview with someone from their podcast studio as it is to have the speech and all the hoopla going on at a victory party, which I thought that was, I thought that was a little unusual. So yesterday, Michelle is on with Fox News and she's talking about the fraud. And she's saying this is what some Minnesotans tell her about how the fraud has affected them and their perception of the state. We think that all conservatives will come home. We're going to get independence. I've talked to Democrats that want to join this movement because they love Minnesota and they are tired of seeing this. Minnesotans are exhausted and John, quite frankly, they're embarrassed. I have talked to hundreds of voters in Minnesota who have told me, gosh, I went on vacation this summer. I didn't want to tell people where I was from. It's embarrassing. Do you know anybody who's embarrassed to say they're from Minnesota? I mean, I'm not. I don't know many people who are. But what I will say about that is, you've got to remember, the president of the United States, who is the biggest lightning rod, firebrand that there is in politics. put a bullseye on the state of Minnesota politically. And Governor Walls in particular, and he's been joined by Congressman Tom Emmer, who represents the state of Minnesota, and I'm assuming is not embarrassed to be from Minnesota, but they have allowed this targeting to go on day after day, week after week, month after month, and a lot of it. I mean, even that... The intelligence community that works for the president was telling him that the hack at the water plants in Minnesota and several other states was likely done by Iran. He instead says it was probably done on walls. Yeah. And so when you have that happening day after day, week after week, month after month, regardless of how far-fetched and how ridiculous, that's going to take a toll. And there may be a lot of other people who are not from Minnesota who go, man, what is going on there? Most Minnesotans, although not all.

kind of understand what is happening. Now, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of Republicans out there, especially very conservative Republicans who are going to say, I have no idea what I'm talking about. Of course, Minnesota is an embarrassment. I just think you've got to keep in mind where a lot of that attention is coming from, and it's the president of the United States. Here's how I clarify this. Okay. Donald Trump, who I'm very critical of, and by the way, Tim Walz on the fraud I've been very critical of. They are accountable. I find it very vulnerable to calling out certain things either they say or do. That doesn't make me embarrassed to be a resident of the United States of America. That doesn't make me the fraud's egregious. It should have been spotted. We should have more of our money back. I did not commit that act. I've called it out endlessly on a radio show. So of you and you're reporting. That doesn't make me embarrassed for the state. But I think that plays with some. I don't think that plays with the moderate voter. Right. There's still, I live here for a reason. I think it's a great place to live. I think this fraud never should have been happened. It should have been spotted earlier. There should be more arrests. It's embarrassing that that happened. That doesn't mean I'm embarrassed to say I live in the state. That's my clarification. No, and I agree with that. And I think we should also clarify that. The fraud issue, I think, will play better in the governor's race than in the U.S. Senate race. Because if you're going to run on the fact that I'm a senator who's going to crack down on fraud, well, where have all the Republicans who currently at last check control the House, the Senate, and the presidency? Where have they been in terms of fighting fraud at the federal level? Because remember, a lot of this fraud has involved money that has come from the federal government to the states. has not been properly accounted for, shall we say. And where have the watchdogs in Congress been up until now? And right now, and that includes Amy Klobuchar, Angie Craig, you know, Democrats, Republicans, what have you. But that's why I think the fraud issue, and keep in mind fraud is a big problem nationally as well. It's not just Minnesota. But it's... But because it has been such a big problem specifically in Minnesota state programs, I think that's going to be a bigger issue in the Amy Klobuchar Damath race than in the U.S. Senate race. But Tafoya is going to bring it up all the time. She's been running, you know this well. She's been running almost a gubernatorial campaign while she's running for Senate. And I think you raise an incredibly valid point because if she wins,

And we can get to that at different points. I think she gives the Republicans in the Senate see one of their best chances in a long, long time. But because of the Democrat success, I still have to make Flanagan, whose politics or will left him on. I've made that point over and over again. Still make her the favorite. But I would ask Michelle, and I will ask Michelle next time I'm interviewing her, if she wins and she's like in the ranking like the... 97th, 98th, 99th, 100th in seniority. What effect can she play on that as a senator? in regarding fraud in Minnesota. But she clearly has been told the fraud issue, rightfully so, is so big. Keep pointing out. Let's take a break. Can I add one real quick thing as long as we're on that point at the Farm Fest debate, what a little over a week ago, almost every answer, whether it was about tariffs or commodity prices, she brought up either fraud or transgender. sports issues. They know, and it's a smart strategy, those are red meat issues for Republicans. She's going to bring those up at every opportunity. 651-461-9-226. I'm going to look at some texts as we chat with Tom. Is Michelle Tafoya Wright? Do you avoid saying you're from Minnesota? because of the egregious and criminal and embarrassing fraud story in this state. You say you're from another state, do you not answer? Or, for me, I still love this state, but I think the fraud was embarrassing and criminal. That doesn't make me deny that I was bored in Golden Valley and live in Plymouth. What do you want to add? 651-461-9-2-2-6. Back with Tom in a moment. Another opportunity to talk about Aquarius, earning the right to be recommended since 1987, have that phenomenal, Connecticutico drinking water available to you every single day. Have that water softener. By the way, you can trade in your old one for a new one and get $500 off. You know the water softer and make that shower better, the bath better, the washing machine better, the dishwasher better. Air conditioner. Have them come out. I know it's cool and comfortable today, but just wait. We'll be back in the 90s soon. Make sure that AC's working. And if anything breaks down in that area, they have the pros at Aquarius Home Services to help you out. And right now in the month of August, $98 bucks off at the start on any repair. I've been a customer since 1993, Aquariushomeservices.com. Among the texts, you two are clueless to what the average Minnesota thinks. Thank you. I'm embarrassed about what is happening in Minnesota definitely. Yeah, the fraud is embarrassing. It doesn't, for me, doesn't make me embarrassed to live here. Or text, she's spot on. We have a camper in Wisconsin, gets slammed constantly for being from Minnesota.

I moved from a lot of texts here. I moved from Edina to Denver about three years ago, and until everybody be, when I tell them I'm from there, they start talking about the fraud. Of course they do. I don't fault that. More texts. Our state is a joke. Let's see. No, I'm not embarrassed to say I live in Minnesota and travel and say I'm from America. I usually tell people I'm from Canada. So this person is playing around. Not embarrassed by Minnesota, I've been embarrassed by Trump. To be honest, I'm more embarrassed for the country considering what Trump has done, embarrassed to be a Minnesotan. Every day gives us reasons to shake our heads and roll our eyes. I'm more embarrassed about being a U.S. citizens. We're getting that a lot. Give me a break. Anybody points out or is investigated the potential 9 billion fraud and also California's fraud has been vilified. They've been labeled far-right instigators. Democrats want to keep the money rolling in because I have a lot because a lot of money ends up helping them. Give me a break on that text. Tom's covered it. We've covered it. Endless people covered it. This idea, this mythology. that some people in the media or listeners of viewers, Tom, continue to say, oh, nobody covers the fraud. It's just a flat out lie. Well, and it's one of those things where, and I read it all the time on X or on my at-issue Facebook page or wherever, but you guys never started covering this until Nick Shirley did, the YouTuber. And I went back in our archives. Our first story on child care fraud in Minnesota was in 2011. The legislative auditor was looking into that in 2011. We did stories, multiple stories after that. It came up again, I think, in... 17. And then it came up again in 2020, 22, 24. It's just, we've been covering these things for a long time. It did not start with Nick Shirley. And it's just amazing. I think because a lot of people who are on social media don't actually ever watch or listen to mainstream media. They just read what largely are, you can find. so many falsehoods on social media on any given day that it is just ridiculous. And people take it as gospel. And they go, why does the mainstream media never cover this? Well, because what you're talking about didn't happen. Or it is not true. But you can argue that until you're blue in the face, and they're not going to listen because they've made up their mind. They're shooting the messenger. They do it all the time. And, you know, we've just... have to learn to live with it, I guess, because you're not going to win an argument with these people who choose ignorance over being informed.

Yeah, I had a number of those conversations the other day on Twitter with people. You never talk about it. And then I said, well, we've probably had 100 plus segments on it. We've had dozens of guests. And then the both times the person comes back with me, well, I've never listened to your show. I'm like, well, how do you know if I don't talk about it if you don't listen? I'm going to break some news here that you told me in private, and I'm sorry, I have to do it. You were about to become the press secretary for Mike Lindell's gubernatorial campaign. How are you holding up after the loss? I thought you were going to put me up for Karoline Leavitt's job. I only get to work for Mike Lindell. I thought I thought I was going to get the big job out in D.C. Yeah, no, no, no, no. We're getting to that later, though, in Swift takes. Who should take Caroline's job, wrong answers only? Okay, is he still contending that this was a rigged election? Well, at last check, and I haven't checked yet this morning or this afternoon, I do have to check in to see whether he has called and conceded to Lisa Demuth. I have not heard that he has, but I know the last time I saw his margin, what was he down, 35,000 votes, something like that. No, that's much less substantial than the 7 million. that President Trump lost a Biden by in 2020 and didn't stop anyone from questioning that. I realize there's different scales of voter turnout we're talking about here. But yeah, I don't, it's going to be helpful to the Republican Party if they can get Mike Lindell on board supporting Lisa Damas because this year. I'm dubious. I am too, but this year, Republicans have their best chance in years to win a statewide election, whether it be governor, U.S. Senate, state auditor with Scott Jensen, the attorney general's race. I mean, they're all up for grabs. I just, I think the one that might be the safest for Democrats might be Steve Simon as Secretary of State. But all the others are, I think, are up for grabs. And they do need some party unity, especially for the big races, Senate, Governor, and Attorney General. All right, Amy Klobuchar is the significant favorite. We know that. We know Lisa Demuth is going to say about 10,000 times from here until Election Day. She's no different than Tim Walz. This will be... Wall's, you know, 3.0 fraud can happen under her watch. Amy Klobuchar continues to try to differentiate herself from Wall saying she's different, even though she endorsed him. She would have handled things differently. Outside of that issue, where is Amy Klobuchar most vulnerable specifically to a Damath campaign?

Boy, I don't know that there's any one particular issue. I think it's more, her biggest vulnerability is, you know, Amy Klobuchar is a career politician. It's very difficult. Now, she pulled it off. She won a third. term in the U.S. Senate. It's very difficult as Tim Walz found out. He dropped out before going on to the third try for governor. Keith Ellison might be about to find out how difficult it is. I think her biggest vulnerability might be voter fatigue. It's shown up in our approval ratings for the first time. I think in our last three surveys, she's been under 50%. And the one thing we used to count on, In every survey, she was going to be mid to upper 50s. no matter what, which is very rare for any politician. Now, well, even though she's down to 47%, that is still higher than any other statewide politician in Minnesota, which is not saying much, but still, she's the best of all of the candidates, even though they're all under 50%. So I think that is her biggest vulnerability that... Lisa Damon is going to come in and say, you know, she's been in the house for a few years, but it hasn't been her whole career. She can come in and say, we need new blood in the governor's office. Democrats have had their turn time after time for 20 plus years. It's time for... a new, it's time for a change in leadership. And Amy Klobuchar has to find a way to counter that and show she's not going to be just like the other Democrats, Dayton and Wals. Amy Klobuchar first ran for office in 1998. That is a career politician. I think that was a very good point by you. Last thing. I require you to watch one sports movie right now. You've got two and a half hours. Your number one selection is? I would have to say probably miracle. Miracle. Okay. Much of Michael Slapshot. No, I do love Slapshot. Another one, I don't know if you got to this, Mystery Alaska. Yeah, I've only seen parts of it. Oh, you've got to watch it.

from start to finish. I had never heard that story about your dad taking you out a slap shot. We put on, we used to have this tradition of my family on Thanksgiving after the meal, and my wife and I would usually host, and then we would have a movie afterwards. And so one year we chose Mystery Alaska, even though none of us had seen it. We didn't realize. There were a few uncomfortable moments for the kids to be watching Mystery Alaska. Nonetheless, it is a great movie, and I highly recommend it. But I would say Miracle, you can tell them in the hockey milieu, if you will, Slapshot. miracle and and what's the other one I just said mystery Alaska all good but I do love field of dreams because I had one 10 second story about field of dreams when I first moved to Des Moines in 1988 they were filming the movie over near the Quad Cities in Dyersville and I remember when they asked people to come out. They needed people for that closing scene. Yeah. If you build it, they will come, and they wanted people to come, and you had to have your headlights on, and they were all going to be queued as to when they would drive and remember what is going on out in the cornfields over there in the eastern part of the state, and then lo and behold, a little over a year later, it became one of my favorite, if not my favorite baseball movie. There you have now. Very nice, sir. The rest of the story. Thank you. I appreciate that. We'll talk soon. See you, man. Okay. See you, Chad. How's your man? Check him out on Channel 5 later tonight. The sad and tragic story out of Hopkins yesterday. More information coming out. And the uncertainty of life on what we know and don't know that after traffic weather on the home of the twins, CCM. Dave, before I get to the series story, a part of this topic, I have not asked you yet. The bumper music theme, what do we have? You mentioned the Twins tonight. Field of Dream, so we've got Dream-related tunes today. I like it. Yesterday was a nightmare. Nathan Brown kills.

Kristen Ann Brown, EV Ann Brown, killed his mother, Burnsville home. Horrifying story. Reports, use of a screwdriver. Paul Bloom was excellent on stories like that. Brown was found in the upstairs closet, self-inflicted. Gunshot wound. This was a daycare, as you know by now. Six other children inside the daycare at the time. According to Paul Bloom, court filings indicated the child care owner, Kristen Brown, who was killed, by her husband. had sent out a newsletter to families telling them she planned to close her in-home business due to relationship issues with her husband, Nathan. I heard on Adam and Jordana's show. Jordana did check in. She's on a great, but she's on a listener trip. Adam had a compelling interview with a mother who had her kids. at this daycare and just spoke in a moving way on how Kristen treated the kids and loved the kids and went well beyond in caring for these children. And it just raises so many questions, Dave. First of all, what had been going on before? How long had Kristen Brown live with this tension, this uncertainty, potentially fear? Who knew about it? I mean, just to have this happen in this manner with other kids in the house, daughter killed also, mother.

And if other folks knew about this, how far do we need to go in helping out individuals, apologize for the cough, who horribly are facing a situation like this? Sometimes you have no idea. I mean, did anybody who was dropping off their kids? Did they have any idea? I'm assuming they knew nothing or else they would have taken their kids out instantly. I would guess in listening to the words from the other mom. We spoke about Kristen who was killed that a lot of these other parents obviously had no idea and they just loved the care that their son and or daughter was receiving. And it adds again to how difficult when you think about it if you need daycare. And you're trying to find the right place. And the trust. And sadly, at times the risk that happens when you bring your daughter, son, to a place now, nobody's envisioning something like this. You, it's kind of the classic like what you have right now with your wife, Lindsay, where both are you working. You have a family situation, but you also have a nanny this summer. And how much information do we all have? What roles do states and counties provide in gathering information?

You're living your life. We're probably going to find out because of good reporting how long this may have been going on with something domestically uncomfortable minimum. Was it well beyond that? I don't know. I don't think anybody would be surprised at this point considering the dastardly grotesque act that took place. I mean, these other kids are in the place. You know, we have these sad stories that happen so often, Dave. And we try to provide a smorgasbord of topics on this show from starting with the mayor to best sports movie to politics. And then I was listening to this as it was unfolding. And Adam was doing just a tremendous job of conveying what we. knew at the time and what we didn't know and even when there's other speculation out there when you're a host here or a newsperson and what you may believe to be true but you can't confirm and it's just i mean it's just awful what what do you want to say about it awful's a great word or if it's a great word it's just You try to listen to news stories and you relate. You put yourselves in no shoes and hear a news story. You think I've been in that situation. But this is just something it's impossible to relate to for, you know, God willing, all of us that are reading this story. It's just this, the level of whatever it is, whether it's evil or just losing your mind to. God only knows what issues for the man here, for Nathan Brown to go through with something like this in two different sites. Kill your mother, kill your wife, kill your kid. Just think about that. Yeah. Mom, wife, daughter. Within hours. Yes. And then yourself. Yes, you do this in, you know, two different areas that are not exactly close. Burnsville and Hopkins, you take the drive and you go through and commit with these horrific acts. You have the six other children in the house while this is happening. It's completely unfathomable. What do people know? Maybe they knew nothing. Maybe everybody kept it quiet. Maybe. And maybe if you were Kristen, you knew there was problems, but I would think almost everyone in that situation would think, okay, there's problems, but there's no way it's going to end the way it ended. Yeah. You're right. 6-5-1-4-619-226. If you want to chime in on it, you certainly can. There are times when we have to switch from a very serious, sad, awful story and still be a part of what we do here. We have commercials and we're doing it here. I'm going to talk about your insurance for your house, your condo, for your cabin, a car, a boat, snowmobile. Are you completely comfortable with the cost?

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Sell by dates. Best if used by dates. Do you pay attention? Are you obsessed with them? Do you not care? You just open it up and you use this particular part of your body, your nose. What is your move on this? Because I swear I got Dave, every 10 days I see another story. California months ago became the first state to standardize the food labels. Other legislation has been proposed in five or six other states. One of the stories I read recently suggested a stunning percentage of food. well into double figures, is thrown out when it shouldn't be thrown out because of either a sell-by or best used by this date label. I just have a hunch that you pay no attention to those labels. Am I correct? Saying I pay no attention might even be more attention than I pay. If you stumble upon something that it's months old, are you still giving the Dave Harrigan's schnaz test that as long as it smells okay. Let's go for it, kids. What particular item? If it is a milk, milk, I'll give it the smell test. Absolutely. Cottage cheese. Smell test. Salmon. It smells like fish either way. What's the difference? Steak. Smell test. Steak, you can also give it the look at me test. If it's turning green, I'll cut that part off. Okay. I hope you're going to be a little more wary. People, where are you at on these labels? I pay attention and I shouldn't pay as much attention as I should. I will just say, occasionally going to my father's house. and seeing some of the food which was in his fridge and that looked and smelled disgusting, I don't want to see that ever again. I get that. I'm not kidding. I am still traumatized by that. Now, the other day. We had a salmon that, I don't know, maybe it was last week. So let's say it was used by the seventh or something. And when I open it up, that was not a good smell, Dave Errigan. So we threw that out. I'm guessing you might have said.

Put it on the grill. It'll be fine. You burn it off. It's fine. When you say you pay attention to the dates, you're talking about fresh foods right now. You're talking about dairy and salmon. Yeah. Are you the same way with, say, a box of crackers or a bottle of mustard or something like that? Well, I view those very differently. The crackers, no. Let's live, edgy. Let's be dangerous. I'm so gutsy. I'm courageous. I view that rather differently. But anything that I'm refrigerating, I'm... I'm paying pretty close attention. Oh, no, no, no. If it's any sort of condiment in a bottle like that, mustard, ketchup, you know, whatever, ranch dressing, I don't care. It can live forever. Stop, stop, stop. What is ranch dressing doing in your refrigerator? The kids love it. Oh, well, get rid of those kids. I don't care. What name you're dressing? You're a vinegrette kind of guy. I get that. No, it's fine. It's fine. I love if you're trying to think of a cheap shot. Okay, 651, 461, 9-226. You're trying to think of a cheap shot at someone over dressing. Which dressing do you go with? I forgot. You're a blue cheese guy, which tastes rancet or smells rancid, even, and tastes too, even when it's fresh. So you've got no legs to stand on when it comes to dressing and condiments. The French blue cheese combo, in particular from Luns Byerle's is borderline orgasmic. That's how good it is. You've never said anything more ridiculous in your life. But please, continue. It's so good. Okay, so I go to the Harrigan's house. I've never been invited, so thanks a lot. Oh, you're always invited. Open invitation. And I see there's mustard from 2022, but you think it smells okay. So if I'm having a brat or a Polish at the Harrigan house, am I going to get that mustard pass to me? Yep. Yes. I've never looked at the label on a bottle of muster. Never, ever once in my life. God, dang. How are you alive? A strong constitution. Maybe all this lack of paying attention to the labels has helped my gut become stronger than yours, sissy boy. Manzy pansy. Do you have that read a sound like that? Also, among the texts, be wary of the manager specials in the meat department. I get very wary of those. I'll still get them. Don't get me wrong. But I'm thinking, okay, why is this chicken? Why is this chicken here all of a sudden? Did they, they got too much? They're being really kind.

Why is this, why is this in this area? That's the first area I go to when I walk into Cub. Check out the special. See what we got going on here. Oh, we got a ribeye for two bucks off expires today. I'll roll the dice on that. I'm currently gagging in the car thinking about a harrigan, munching down an old stale cottage cheese. I'm with you, Texer. To be fair, I've never let cottage cheese go beyond whatever date it may be because cottage cheese is so immaculate. You walk by the fridge and you got to grab a scoop full. Did I tell you about Michelle purchased this chive cottage cheese? I don't know, a couple months ago. Shockingly, I had an opinion about it, right? And I'm like, what is this? Come on. Just get... Get that sea salt cottage cheese that I really like. Come on. And I was just dismissive of it. Now I'm obsessed with it. I might start sleeping with my chive cottage cheese. It's so damn good. Get awfully warm. Are you going to eat it then when you wake up or do you got to throw it away? No comment. I'm as skeptical as you are. I would not be in on chive cottage cheese. And it's unbelievable, you know. Yes, pay attention to the dates at the store. Laid off years ago, worked at the grocery store for a year. Open my eyes to watching the dates. Kids aren't good at rotating sides. This is a grocery store employee who's saying your...

Wrong. How about that? No, no, no. That's a former grocery store employee. Fire. So that's why the person was fired. That's what you're suggesting. Could have been. Not going to say either way. Yeah. I think the hint is very strong, Dave. Text her. Mustard doesn't go bad. Get out of here. See? Okay. Okay. So I buy mustard today. And I'm pounding that thing down 15 years from now. Everything's okay. Google AI tells me mustard will go bad eventually, but it's high vinegar and salt content and make it one of the longest lasting condiments. Hey, applause for the strength of mustard. Well, I'm tea mustard, okay, and we know where I stand in ketchup. It can usually last a year or two beyond the printed date. Well, then what's the point of the date? Exactly. The date is to make you buy more mustard. All you cowards like you who see a date and, oh, you start just, oh, shaking like a leaf on a tree, as one great philosopher once said. Oh, oh, no, the date approaches. Is that close to a turkey gobbling? Is that what that was? I thought it was. I keep chiming in. Are you a gobbler? Are you discerning like me? Dave's like sell-by date. If it's in the same decade, I'm good. I'm not that person. 651-461-9-226. You want me to talk a little pala right now, Dave? I'd love to hear about that window situation you've got. Hold on a second. Let's see if I can do this without breaking things. Do you hear that? Pella windows. Yes, no expiration date on those. No, baby, no. By the way, they have great warranties with Pella windows and doors. When Pella comes out to your house and you haven't come out to your house, just sign up for Pella Northland.com. I don't think they're going to check your windows just by knocking on the window like I did right there. They're going to run through it. They'll bring a trained professional out to your place. Who is going to know what he or she is doing? Maybe it's a new house. Maybe when you're building that house and you have options, you lean right away and you say, I get it. There's options out there, but I'm going option A. I'm going number one. I'm going Pella windows and doors, Pella Northland.com. Showrooms? Oh, we got three. We got Woodbury. Plymouth and the new one in Brooklyn Park, online, Pella, Northland.com. And if this is the month for you in Pella, you've picked an excellent month. How about pricing-wise, 0% APR for 72 months or 20% off that entire Pella project, PellaNorthland.com. Wrong answers only. Who should replace Karoline Leavitt?

as the new press secretary. 6-5-1-461-9-2-2-26. 651-461-9-226. When did he make the comment about her lips? How long ago was that, the very troubling, concerning? Is that last year? Several months ago, let me, I know I've got it in the system. Let me see when I put it in there. How about Donald himself? He loves the media. He talks to the media. He lectures the media. He casually bumps into the truth with the media. Why does he need a press secretary at all? Because he might be having nap time. You never know. He made it one, he's done it a couple times on the lips comment. One I have in the system as January of this year, but it's been multiple times. Do you want to play it? Can you hit it? Yeah, I can hit it here in just a second. There we go. Get the thing. Those lips, they move like a machine gun. There it is. Wrong answers only. Somebody suggests Rudy Giuliani.

Maybe he's perspiring heavily. Is Rudy okay health-wise? I don't know. I never really got an update, didn't we? No. We did not. Joe Biden. How about Joe has to tell the Donald's story every day? That'd be interesting. Tim Walsom, somebody says, hey, he's looking for a gig, don't you think? Why not? Bobcat, Goldthwaite. When's the last time you thought of Bobcat? It's been a while. Oh, my God. It's very good. Scott Jennings. Now, that's not a wrong answer. That's a possible answer. Yeah. Jennings in term one was kind of a Mitch McConnell. typical classic Republican, and then he went, mm-mm, mm-mm. That's not where the money is. I got to go to the other side. This text, another hot young blonde who can lie through her teeth with a smile. That's probably where we're headed, don't you think? No, I think that's a very good possibility. Maybe he'll grow a brunette this time. You never know. How about the pillow guy? He needs looking for a job now. Lindell gave up the ownership. It's not going to be our governor. Oh. Come on. How do you know he's going to appeal this? The election was stolen from him. That's true. There's been irregularities. I forgot that. My apologies. Judge Judy. Is Judge Judy still in there? It's a great question. I haven't looked for a Judge Judy program in quite a while. Kari Lake, including the filters. Oh, listen, getting old isn't always the greatest thing in the world, the double standard towards females, towards male. We've made some progress. We still have a long way to go. But man, the filter thing, we watch it at times in the studio together. And you're like, doesn't somebody have to say something like, turn that filter down some? You're just, you're drawing more attention to yourself than, God forbid, you just acknowledge that. You're not 25. Exactly. Back off the Crisco on the lens. Just a touch. We saw the Barbara Walters filter many, many years ago. We don't need to put it back. And Kerry's far from the only one. We know. No, that's correct. Sophie Cunningham. Okay, let's deal with that topic for a little bit where. A lot of people are saying the WMBA, this is just horrible for them what's happened. The conversation, the trans debate, Sophie Cunningham, what you said in the interview, the reaction by Cheryl Reeve and others, good or bad for the WMBA, Dave Errigan. So far, great. I agree 100%.

causing significantly more people to pay attention, which can lead them to watch the damn games, which is the point. And again, as I said, multiple times. Sophie Cunningham in the initial quote, I don't have a problem with it. When she's posing with Riley Gaines and others and then trying to say, I don't know why you're drawing me into this controversy. Well, then don't pose with them. Okay. Because her initial position on, you know, women and biological men at a certain age, the majority of the population is with her. But then when you're posing with individuals who've turned that into their career and you're surprised that has become a topic, come on, get the hell out of here, right? It's shocking that people would have that reaction. Yeah, I mean, I totally understand your point as far as, you know, posing with Riley Gaines, et cetera. I'm with her, too. I agree with her position, everything she stated. And, I mean, now that we've gotten to the point in the last week or two of, you know, the Royce whites and the Enos canters of the world, I'll declare myself eligible for the, shut up. Just shut up. Exactly. More wrong answers only. Rosie O'Donnell. Go well. Rosie and Donald, they're good pals. Has she hosted the Kimball show yet? Did I miss that? Is that coming up? I don't believe that's happened yet. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Our guy, Steve Simpson, he's looking for a gig, right? As far as we know, he'd be great. Yep. Tommy Flanagan, the pathological liar from John Lovitz. I didn't remember the name. By the way, I hope that's the right name. I would not have known the name. John Lovitz, outside of that, overrated, correct? Boy, I was going to say properly rated. Really? Yeah, I... Something about his bit. I mean, his bit is the same no matter what show or movie he's on. But, I mean, it always does make me chuckle. Yeah. Let's pause on time. Okay, well, one more political thing. And then we're going to get to a little, the aircraft carry with Jason, too. So we had a lengthy two-part conversation on Tuesday. Around this time about the decision, Secret Service, our intelligence, CIA, when the president escaped the smaller plane and they eventually caught back up. You can listen to that. If you think we'd just savage the president because of it, you're wrong. You should listen to the conversation. But.

We have not talked since we found out who was on the small plane with him. Yes, Pete Hegseth, but also the gal is with him all the time. Natalie Harp, who's known as the human printer because she's always printing positive things. And shockingly, the president wants another attractive young woman by him. And then Dan. Scaviano, who's kind of a social media flunky. Meanwhile, Marco Rubio and Scott percent and some others are on the plane. The decoy plane. Don't you think Marco has the right to say, now wait a second. Shouldn't I, I'm your national security advisor and the Secretary of State, and we're worried about shoulder fire missiles? Don't you think I'm above your inner staff? Because there's one of the staff member I forgot. Seems that you might want to include the Secretary of State in that group. You might. Is that craziness? Well, I think it is craziness, perhaps, because as the president said yesterday, he believes the plane he was on was more at risk. More dangerous. So, you know, he was doing the Marco Rubio and the rest of them a favor. He was selflessly sacrificing himself. Is that what you're suggesting? That's exactly right. That's what the Secret Service asked him to do. He'll just do whatever the Secret Service tells him to do. He'll do it. But he believes he was in far greater danger than those aboard Air Force One. Yeah. And again, as we laid out the other day, Bill Clinton did something similar. It's an incredibly difficult situation. But if you're going to do it... bring your top people in your cabinet that's the way to go jason de russia when we come back on cio are you getting laid more on the left or on the right or is it just equal equal sometimes left sometimes right yeah you know you know me like to appeal to all the sides Yes, yes. Two weeks from today, it's go time from the state fair. What? You ready? You prepared? Born ready. Actually, I was talking to my editor at Minnesota Monthly magazine today about the fact that I'm not quite ready. Normally, by this point, the two-week mark. I've got my eating plan ready for day one because you have to be strategic for what I try to do on the first day, which is eat as many the new foods as possible. And I don't have my path laid out yet, so I've got to work on that this weekend. Among the news stories the last week or so. And these are coming from credible.

military-driven news outlets like military times and stars and stripes. And then more of the mainstream, the so-called mainstream media, has been filing up the conditions on the USS Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carry. Where by 5,000. They've been gone since November. This was supposed to end in May, but obviously because of location and the war, they've been there a lot longer. And reporting of sailors, excuse me, I kind of went sailors and soldiers come on there, jumping over or having fellow sailors stop them from jumping over, food issues. toilet issues mold all over the place no days off at all and when it comes up because i've seen this in some social media platforms that i heard adam bringing up too the immediate response from so many people who are so deep in the, no matter what the president does, he's flawless, is fake news, not real, not happening. My God, this is our military. Do you have to be solely political on every single topic? Can you not separate and say, These individuals are sacrificing a great deal, and some are facing such an extraordinary mental health issue that they're contemplating ending their life or drawing so much attention to their mental health that they'll be taken off the ship, hopefully without losing their life. And when people have pushed back, well, guess what happened? Now with more coverage. The George Washington aircraft carrier is coming, thankfully. To replace this, and I get it. This isn't, you're not going for the spa. Right, right. But some level of decency with food and showering and mental health, and I'm sorry, if your only comeback is to say not legit, just by haters, then you just admit you'll believe. Only one side, even when it could be a family member or a friend who is potentially sacrificing their life in the area of combat when they've stayed there months longer. And some of the accommodations, and I'm not expecting me to the W, but some of these accommodations are not close to what they were months and months before. Well, I would only push back a little bit.

And note, the Navy said that they haven't seen an increase in suicide attempts or ideations on the ship. And so. How do you say this without being insensitive? But sometimes when people have a conversation with a family member and the family member takes that situation to the next step, is it, you know, are we talking about the same thing? Are family members being, you know, taking this to an extreme? I don't know. I would say this, to me, the fact that generally speaking with younger Americans, we have much more anxiety, we have much more mental health. open discussion about it, but I think objectively, we probably have a lot more mental health challenges with the younger generation than we had, say, yours or mine, right? They've had tougher stuff to go through, I think, to a certain degree with COVID and with social media and all of that. To me, it is not surprising that you would... see active military members having having more challenges with whether it's extended deployments, whether it's the supplies being where they want it to be. Seems like everybody's got increased anxiety, increased depression. So I certainly would not be surprised. by seeing more of those incidents with the active military. What is frustrating is your point that we can't have a real analysis of anything because you've got to line up with your team. Yeah, no matter what. It's annoying. And those are valid points, but I give stars and stripes and the military times a fair amount of credit in trying to sift out what. has some veracity. What is... Well, we've seen this administration straight up lie to us over and over and over. So I also don't put that past that. And for the folks who are saying, oh, much ado about nothing, well, the story's been out there. Horrible. For the last five, six days. Guess what's happening now? The George Washington... is replacing that aircraft carrier is replacing the Abraham Lincoln. So if you're saying made up, then after 250 days, why is this change? It's clearly something, yeah. It's absolutely related to this. You want to chime in, you certainly can. 651-461-9226. Back with Jason in moments on CC.

Textor points out something I had no idea. Consider as Pete Hegseth doesn't surprise me. Just buttoning up the last story on the Abraham Lincoln and what's been going on with some of the sailors and now the George Washington coming to replace it. The Pentagon is in a legal battle with Stars and Stripes. And Stars and Stripes believes that the Pentagon and what they're trying to do is eliminate. and force their independence away. So what a shock that the administration doesn't like some of the coverage and the responding this way. I saw another story today, Jason, which obviously is good, where the headline is, problem drinking in the U.S. is on decline. And we always want to see that where individuals aren't dealing with excessive drinking. But it stands out again to me. how drinking, even on the moderate side, you read these stories, has slowed notably across a number of different generations. So you cover the bar restaurant scene so closely. And knowing a lot of the customers just aren't drinking as much as they should. How are the restaurants and the bars holding up with this changing pattern by so many people in the country? It's devastating for them, for their business. And obviously it's a difficult thing to talk about, right? Because you don't want to say like, start boozing people. You know what I mean? But most restaurants, sit-down restaurants have been built around. a certain profit margin for booze that essentially subsidize the food. Now, I would say, like my pushback, and the restaurant people don't necessarily agree with me on this point. But I am curious how much of the decline in drinking is, you know, I think the media coverage tries to portray it as like people are being healthier. And I'm skeptical. I think that it's too damn expensive. I mean, you go to a craft brewery now. The beer that they make, they're selling for like eight or nine bucks a pint. And how many people are going to do that? And so I am a little skeptical of the overall decline in drinking reporting. I think what's happening a little bit is people are pre-gaming at home and then going to a restaurant and having water or having one drink when they might have had two before. And people are eating out less, of course. I think the economy is a big factor. And it's tough. What do you do as a restaurant? I mean, if you're selling a burger at $16. But really it should cost 19. But you were getting three bucks in extra profit from selling a glass of wine or a mug of beer. Can you get away with selling the burger for 19? I don't know. It's a tough situation. Well, and you also have the fact that of the younger generation, I don't know, where we want to cut that off.

The number of folks who've decided their AI chatbot friend, their friends just through the phone, they're good. I don't need to go to the local bar nearby or downtown St. Paul or Minneapolis. Do you talk to the kids about this? I ask my kids all the time. I'm like, what are people doing? My kids say that, like, young people are still drinking and still drinking beer and this idea that everyone switched to THC or whatever is not. Does it align with their experience? But there's just a bigger difference between, like, kids who are out and kids who are not. And there are a lot more. So the kids who are out are still, like, living pretty similarly to how we did when we were that age. But the kids who are in never go out. It's interesting. Yeah, for me, the two older boys, you know, Hunter and Michaela, especially Hunter, he's a total foodie. Like, so he's out. So he's turning this phenomenal chef. Yeah. And he loves going out and trying. You know, the cool places and getting the unique drink. But they don't go out a ton. Yeah. And then my middle ball, so Hunter's 31, Griff's about to turn 30. He is like, he hangs out with a ton of friends. But a lot of times they go to his house or he's going to somebody else's house. And he isn't just much of a drink. He'll find other ways to have some fun. Right. But neither one is one to get, you know, probably have as many cocktails as more people. I didn't at that age, though, right? Like it was kind of like whatever the cheapest beer you could find. That was sort of what I was drinking. Yeah. I was broke. I don't know. I feel like cocktails didn't show up in my life until I was maybe 32. 31. But. But Hunter's 31. Yeah, I guess so. You're there. Griff's, you know. I forget how old you are. I forget. I know. I'm decrepit, man. You sound so vibrant like I forget, you know. AI. It's the reason why I'm not in student. This is AI, Chad. Pretty good. Yeah. It's pretty good. I'm actually at a golf course. Might be better. And making bogey after boge. Dave says AI Chad is less irritating. Yes. That's true. Looks a lot better, too. Yeah. Hey, AI Chad has feelings, too. Biggest, before we go, biggest surprise out of Tuesdays election results was the margin for Peggy Flanagan. That's it. I wasn't totally shocked that Damath won, although I was with you, I think we agreed that we both thought Lindell was going to do it. I did. And so I was straight up wrong on that. We both thought Flanagan was going to win, but I thought it was going to be close. It was not. No way. Did I think it was 20 point? I do think that destruction does undercut some of the fears of like this idea that, oh, she's too much of an like too far left. That vote total was huge. Or.

Or is this where we move? Those are the folks who voted because I don't think she's moderating her positions. Nope. I mean, we'll see. We'll see how both of these guys do, you know. 200,000 more votes than DeFoyer. It's a lot. It's a lot. All right. Enjoy your afternoon. Jason. Thank you. He'll lead you up to the twins in Iowa right here on CCU.