AM Show Hr 3 | Fatherhood, Identity & the Stories We Tell Ourselves

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is on the air. So I probably sound a little different than I normally do. I am well aware that when you talk on the radio in the manner that literally everything you say is upsetting somebody. I'm comfortable with that. A couple days ago, I posted that now that Jasmine Crockett has graduated, out of the house, I let the word out among people who've tried to book me for speeches for a while. Hey, uh, I'm doing the speeches, and there have been some other markets that want me to fly there and give a speech and come back, which I never wanted to do when the kids were at home takes a lot of time. And then you're away from the kid. And the worst part about that is whether they want you to speak for 20 minutes or an hour, it's the travel and the staying there and the hotel and all that, all that for one hour. It's a burden. I don't want to live that way. But it's good money. and I've always used speech money as play money. So I would tell the kids, hey, I'm getting this amount for this speech. What do y'all want to do with it? So dad's not going to be here Saturday night because I'm speaking at this event. But the flip side is we're going to do something together. We're going to blow this money. It's fun money. And so I told that. And then I said, look, If you want somebody that doesn't cost anything, here's three really good speakers. David Malsby from Camp Hope, and he will usually bring, if you ask him, veterans from Camp Hope to tell their story. You want a powerful, impactful, you know, businessman's lunch or businessman's breakfast group, email me. I'll connect you with David Malsby. He's got a story to tell. He's a pastor. He tells stories. He's good at it. Russell Labara. His group likes you to buy books because the books go to Camp Hope and distribute the books to your members. He can only do so many because of time and he travels. But he's a really, really good speaker. You will love having him. He's got stories to tell. And third, the guy who's probably given more speeches in this town in the last 50 years than any other single person is Mack. And he doesn't charge. He shows up and speaks at kindergarten graduations. business clubs. He loves to, and by the way, the thing that shocks people is how polished he is as a speaker. Because he has that herky jerky tone when you see him in the ad. That's all a put on. That's not who Mac is. I went over yesterday, but let me finish this. So I said, hey, here's three people that if you need speakers, because people are always looking for speakers for events, and I'm back in the speaking game to get paid. There are people who follow me day in and day out who love my content, who all of a sudden are upset. You're getting paid? You got paid for banking? Why do you get paid for panties? Do you get paid for roofing?

It's what I do for a living. It's what I do. Do you not understand that? God, I'm not getting paid. I'm going to show your experiences. I'm getting paid, MFer. That's what I do. Here's the difference. And this is where I know I'm making people mad. I don't care that you don't like that I like to make money. Well, you just play on a different field. You know, you're not poor like me. You like to go out and eat food and you post a picture of you eating food. Well, I ain't got no money. I don't have nothing nice. You sound like a Democrat. Go make some money. Nobody gave me mine. I will tell you this. You are talking to a dude that wants to make money. Money gives me power. Somebody's sick? I can pay for their treatment. I need a Z-Kliner from my dad. I can go buy one. Somebody can't make it to a funeral. I can, hey, I got it. Give me the details. I got it on my credit card. Money gives you power. It gives you flexibility. And I love it. Well, I don't like you no more because now you make money. Okay, don't like me. We're not friends anyway. What do you think is going on here? I provide content. You like it or you don't. It's Coca-Cola. You want Pepsi? Fine. Stupid choice, but it's yours. So I understand that literally everything I do, everything I say is going to upset somebody. But on this particular person, I also on this particular issue, I also understand this is very personal to people. And it's not my intention. It is not on this one time, it's not my intention to pick a scab on somebody that this is, they've got a deep emotional trauma that they've chosen for themselves, which is my opinion. And I'm here to hurt it. That's, I. When I say what I say, it's very harsh. If I were honest about what I think about this issue, I'd lose 90% of you. And I got that. I'm okay with that. It doesn't change who I am. It's who I am. That makes you not like me. Okay. Maybe I'm not as nice a guy as you think I am. I have very harsh opinions. And I actually believe that most of the problems in this country are that people don't state harsh opinions. Everybody states what everybody else wants to hear. We got to have a sticker on everything. Hey, don't eat this poison. You'll die, okay? It's just for killing ants. You can't eat it. Okay. Well, that dumb, they have to put that note on there. Well, maybe that's how we ended up here. Maybe we've been living in a padded room for too long. By the way, posted the other day, rolled in on Sunday to see my dad. And he's knocked out 2 o'clock in the afternoon. He's having a nap. I mean a king's nap. Oh, he looks comfortable with guys. This little crocheted thing on him. I've got a full-time caretaker and just so loving toward him. And he's all, he's laid out there. He's happy. And I'm happy that he's happy. He's sleeping deeply. And so I posted a picture. I get these email. I get these posts from people. I thought a Z-cliner. I thought a Z-cliner.

Okay, it's not a Z-cliner. You ought to buy your daddy a Z-cliner. You ought to buy yours a Z-cliner. Did you buy yours a Z-cliner? Do people even hear themselves? Everybody loves to say that they'll tell restaurant owners. Restaurant owners tell me this all-time people. You need to give that guy a raise. You don't even know what he makes. You're running around giving people raises. You need to give somebody a raise. What are you doing? Just stop telling everybody else what to do. That's my domain. So anyway. So I got pissed off all these people. You ought to buy him a Z-Cliner. So I called Mac yesterday. I said, hey, Mac, you got any Z-cliners in? He goes, yeah, I got him. Come on. He doesn't actually talk like that in real life. So I said, are you going to be there? It took me an hour to get from the Galleria to 45 yesterday. The kids back in school, it's crazy. So anyway, I went over. Spent a little time, well, it was a lot of time in the afternoon. They made a lot of changes over there. They renovated a bunch of stuff. A Z Kleiner's a big deal for them now. Anyway, so I bought my dad a Z Kleiner. And so I called my dad. I called the caretaker and said, hey, and he said, well, he's got, he had a bunch of medical treatments. They come to him now. And they said, he's going to really want to be focused. Can you put it off till tomorrow? It's like, whoever wanted furniture delivered tomorrow, can you not bring it right this second? I said, well, it kind of ruins the whole vibe, but okay. So in between shows today, I'm going to go over, and they're going to wait out front, and we're going to walk in with this Z-Kliner, and I'm pretty fired up about it. Max's pretty fired up about it. He made him a video. Ms. Bari Weiss. This is Mac. Hope you enjoy your Z-Cliner. You know, boys are good. Anyway, so I'm pretty excited about it. I'm not sure why I told you that other than it would make me very happy if you go get you a Z-cliner. Oh, Michael, they cost too much money. Okay. What about the new truck you just bought? What about the... See, it's why I don't need therapy. I just get yelled generally at every person that emails. So anyway, go buy a Mac Z client. Because Ramon gets a commission. This is the Michael Barry show. I mean, we could work a deal out, Ramon. To the lines we go. To the fine lines, we go. Or Sean Hannity says to our very busy phone lines, we go. Mike, go ahead. Yes, I found out a little over a year ago that my son is not my biological son. And I guess initially I responded. He found out through one of those online DNA things. I guess initially I responded in anger. And then his mom finally revealed that it was true.

How old's your son? He's 33. And are you still married to his mother? I am not. How long had y'all been together when she got pregnant with him? We were married for a year. And do you know who his biological father is? I did not know him personally. Someone she knew from high school. You don't have other children? She does. Prior to you? No, after. How long were you married? Two years. And have you raised this child as your own? You're close to him? Great relationship? Oh, yes, raised them as my own, unknowing about the fact. But I would say with this news, the relationship is, I don't know if you call it awkward or strained. Why? I don't think we've... dealt with it, each other. He lives in a different state. I do plan to go see him to sort of, I guess, in my opinion, kind of figure out where we go from here. Mike, I'll just tell you my opinion. You don't have to like it or agree. It just, in my opinion, exists whether I'm talking to you or not. So I know a lot of people who a woman has a child, maybe she's married, maybe she's not. She's married. They get divorced or her husband dies or he runs off and leaves her, whatever happens. Or maybe she gets pregnant. She's not sure who the dad is. Or maybe the dad wants no part and so she's a single mom. She goes on with her life. She meets a man. That man and her. create a couple. They start living together. She has a child already. The right thing to do is for that man to play a parental role to the extent that she's comfortable and he's comfortable. If there's no man involved, he should be the dad. And this often happens. I hate the word stepdad. A dad's a dad. A dad's one tells you when to go to bed, gets you up in the morning, throws a ball with you, pays your bills. Whips somebody's ass if they do you wrong. All these things, saves up for retirement to give you something when they leave, lets you live in their home, feeds you, cares for you, takes you to the doctor's office, tends to your needs, disciplines you, answers your questions, helps you get through the rough times. That's what a dad is. A dad is not sperm. I wish we could get past this notion. A dad is not sperm. You are that boy's dad. You raised him. He is who he is because of you. Now, I don't know what cancer is lurking that you didn't contribute to and somebody else did. I don't know what, you know, the cones in his eyes or his likelihood for macular degeneration. None of that is who he is as a human being. You raise that child. You are his father. He is your son. To me, there's really nothing else to say. I think that we have this, I think it's a harlequin romance notion of he's not my son after all. Yeah, he is. And you're his dad.

Because that's what that means. It does not mean sperm. We're not talking to bloodlines of a prized breed of dogs here. We're talking about human beings and reactions and hours and years spent together. Years. All right, Mike, I want you to fix this problem. Yourself and then him. Lies too short. Dan, and there's no uncertainty left. You're his father. He's your son. That's the way it is. Dan, what you got? So I've been listening carefully. agree with your perspective to a point. I've known five men in my lifetime, four of which were simply co-workers, one of which is a relation that had us, were either adopted or misled about their biological origin. Okay. And all five of these men. went through the process at different points in their life. Most of them were in their late 20s or early 30s when they met with their biological father. Okay. So these men were already established in society. They already had their own families. This was all like a big surprise, right? So in all five of those cases that I personally know about, none of them went well. In other words, the reaction of the biological father was not positive. In some cases, you know, the son discovered that their biological dad was just a POS. I mean, and that's all there was, right? Yeah. My wife and I had two, quote-unquote, natural-born daughters, and then we wanted a third. But because my wife's physical... difficulty she had with both of our pregnancies, we thought it was too risky to go that route. So we decided to try adoption. We went down that road of looking into international, too much pain, too much hassle, too much scams in the networks. So we decided to go to DePelchon in Houston. And we, I don't want to go to the host for it because I know you get other callers, but. It was an interesting process. Well, we ended up being super blessed with a three-day-old girl, which fit perfectly in our family because we already had two daughters. We went with closed adoption. We talked about it at length with lots of counselors, not just with the person with other people in our circle at church and stuff, to kind of find out what the best approach on this adoption would be. And they all recommended. closed adoption. So that's what we went with. And she was about six, I believe she was about six, when during an event at home, a bunch of kids were at the house, they were playing. I wasn't there. I was working offshore at the time, but obviously I got the story relayed to me. One of my daughters slipped up and let her know that she was adopted. And it caused some problems. It caused lots of problems. And I don't know how to explain that, except that I do believe, even though I understand what you're saying, Michael, and trust me, my youngest daughter is my daughter. It has nothing to do with where she came from on the mechanical side. But...

There are those two basic questions that every human being asks at least once in their life. Where do I come from and why am I here? Uncle Barry taken from us far too soon. Uncle Jerry's pinky toe. There are people who are insanely successful professionally. Elon Musk. And part of that reason is that Elon Musk is not encumbered. He is not handcuffed by the social norms and mores that most people are. Every time he's told, no, you can't do it by an investor, a competitor, the media, or the execution, you know. His SpaceX rockets crashed. Most people walk away. He doesn't do that. He's somewhere on the spectrum, pretty far out on the spectrum. And that's his superpower because he can't be told no. He refuses to care about what everybody else cares about, fear of failure. Oh my God, if I fail, everyone will say it was all, I wasn't so great after all. I'm not so smart after all. Maybe I'll go bankrupt. Maybe people will make fun of me. Maybe they'll say, I'm an idiot. Maybe they'll say, see, I told you you were wrong. He is unencumbered. To the extent that people choose happiness, they will be happy. To the extent that people choose to obsess over things that you cannot change that make you miserable, and they do. But nobody says willingly, you know what? What I'm going to do in a wonderful world in my short little life is I'm going to find something that is imperfect. And I'm going to hang that albatross around my neck and I'm going to worry about it all day, every day. and that's going to be my reason that I drink too much, or I'm fat, or I don't get up out of bed, I don't do anything else. I'm just going to let that bother me all the time. It's not my fault. I didn't choose it. It just happened, and since it's out there, it's like cancer. You can't deny it. It kills you. It slowly but surely kills you. But that's not true. You can choose. That's just it. You can choose. Imagine you survived the Holocaust. You know how many people went on to amazing success after the Holocaust, after being victims of that. But they could have sat around and said, well, you know, it was the Holocaust and all. You have to understand that's my thing. How many people get raped? How many people get falsely imprisoned? How many people get mugged? How many people have their loved one murdered in front of their very eyes and go on to great success? I dare say that's a little worse than what most people are obsessing over. You choose how much of that. bothers you and to one extent. You choose it. No, Michael, it's not, yeah, it is. Take control of your own life. It's a superpower. It's yours for the taking. Jen, you're up. Go ahead. Hey, Michael. So I have a couple of experiences with the subject you're talking about. First of all, my oldest son from my first marriage, which only lasted a couple of months. And then we got divorced and I remarried. and my ex-husband gave up parental rights of my son, and then my husband adopted him. And so now we've been married for over 30 years, and they have a great relationship, my oldest son and my husband. And my son never has felt like a desire to seek out his biological father.

perfectly happy, you know, with his family and with himself and with his father. So I, um, you know, never had to deal with that issue of, you know, what would we do if he found this man. So, um, you know, he's perfectly happy with his life and an adopted father. It's a choice he makes and it's, I think it's a smart one. It's, it's far more likely to yield. personal and professional family success than choosing to chase some ghosts which a lot of people do and and the hardest part for me is convincing them that this is a choice you are making i know people that have been divorced for a number of years both men and women and you can't have a two-minute conversation without them bitching about their ex. And you think, you haven't been married to that person since Obama was president. Why are you still talking? Yeah, wait a job. Okay, so that you have locked in on that moment. Like Luke Skywalker, you're about to blast that thing to an asteroid. And that's what you've locked in on, is that person and the failures that they, that's what you choose to think about. We were in Austin last weekend. I met up with a friend of mine from law school, and I hadn't seen him in years. And they had two beautiful children, and then they got divorced. And I had never met her because he met this woman after we all graduated from law school. And he was talking about, you know, my marriage and how we seemed so happy in law school because I was already married and that he always wanted that. And he went looking for the wrong thing and it didn't work. But he has these two wonderful kids who are in their 20s now and he's very happy. And I was asking him, I thought they were recently divorced. And he said, no, it's been 25 years. He said, but sometimes I catch myself talking about it like it was yesterday. And then I realize. That's on you, not her, because I was at a bad time myself. So what I've done is I foisted everything that I didn't like about me at that time onto her. When we got divorced, I had to be responsible for me and my success, and I could no longer blame my spouse as many people do. And I thought, that's a pretty deep statement. Christian, you're on the Michael Bari Weiss show. Go ahead. Yes, sir. Thank you. I like the previous caller. I adopted my son from his mom, his biological mom, when we got married when he was two years old. He's now about 27. And we never had that issue of, well, what are we going to tell him? Because he's biologically black and Mexican, black-sican. And since we got married, I had my own two kids. She had a previous son. I adopted the youngest, Moses. We were a black's occasion family, all right? So we didn't ever have that issue of, you know, not knowing that I was as adopted father. They're all just my kids, similar. There's no stepson, adopted son. They're just my son and my daughter.

It was about maybe five or six years ago. His mom called me when I was stationed in Hawaii as an armed soldier, and she said, oh, Moses has been, you know, asking about his biological dad, his sperm donor. He always called him. And I said, okay, that's fine. You know, I have no problem with that. I understand someday he, I believe him and then later, I was talking to Moses, and I said, you know, And I was preparing him to say case son, he'd be a piece of crap. You know, I didn't really tell him that he wanted to abort him earlier and never wanted anything to do with him and gave up his parental rights. But I said, you know, just be prepared for he may not be this wonderful guy that you think, you know. I just want to know my roots. I want to know my people. I say, Moses. We are your roots, your mom, me, your two brothers, your sister. We are your roots. We are your people. Well, no, I mean, my black roots, my black people. And I say, okay, well, why are you stopping now? I mean, okay, we're Bible believing bloodied, born again, sinners saved by grace. We're Christians. And we believe Noah and his three sons spurned all of us. We all came DMA-wise from those eight people. I say, so why are you stopping halfway through your lineage after the Tower of Babel when people moved down to Africa and, you know, became black or white or whatever? You know, you have your story. Your story is there in the Bible. I'm just sitting here listening to Michael Bari Weiss.

Well, if I haven't managed to make everybody angry, let me just go ahead and accomplish that right now. Because this is how I feel. It's just opinions. It's just words. You probably wouldn't like a lot of my opinions on things because they're judgy. It's the self-righteous Southern Baptist side of me. Very judgy. I think most people are walking around in a prison of their own making, not because they were born a dwarf. with Crohn's disease or a terrible cancer, but because they get bored and lazy and they make sloppy decisions, self-defeating decisions. They choose everybody. I was going to go to law school. Why didn't you go to law school? Well, it's going to go. And then I took a job over there. You weren't going to law school. You didn't go to law school. You're not a lawyer. It doesn't matter. It's not that big a deal to be a lawyer. Trust me. But stop spending your entire life telling people that you were going to go to law school because you argue well. That's dumb. Stop. I was going to be, I was going to play in the NFL, but I blew my knee out. Okay, so you're coaching sixth grade PE at a school telling people to hold the parachute up? Okay, where were you in school when you were going to play professional football? Well, I was at Texas Wesleyan, but the coach, they wanted me to come to Ohio State, but what happened? I blew my knee out. Okay, do you know how many sixth grade PE coaches across the country are telling the kids in their class that they were going to play pro football, but they blew their knee out? Do you have any idea? Please stop that. Please stop. Just be the best you can be at what you are. But stop with this, stop with that. It's silly. It's nonsense. And anybody with the brain knows that that's not actually true. You weren't going to play pro football. You were 5'9, which you still are today, and 148 pounds. You were a good player at a single A football team, not a star. Quit with that. I'm going to play pro. Day's going to play. You know, Darryl was interested in me. Was he? He's interested. Really? He came to my school one time. Oh, because y'all had a kid that he was going to recruit and didn't recruit, but you were there at the same time and you shook his hand. No, he wasn't recruiting you. You're 59-148. There's not a position. You don't kick. There's not a position for you. Stop spending your entire life making an excuse for who and what you are and you are not. Take ownership. I realize nobody's ever told you that. I understand you needed a father figure and didn't have one. I understand you need a blunt reaction to the lies and excuses you make for everything. If I need to do that, I will. Because I had a lot of people do it for me. Let's live in the world of truth. Let's be honest, as painful as it is, and then let's get past it. Let's stop making excuses for all this. Just quit. You're not Irish, Italian, French, whatever. You're American. You and the last eight generations of your family have lived right here in Woodville.

Okay. You're not French. Stop attributing your characteristics to you being French or Irish or German or Russian or whatever. You'd never been there. You couldn't find it on a map. You don't speak the language. You don't know the food. You don't even eat sauerkraut. So stop. Well, I don't have nothing else to talk about. I don't have nothing else say about myself. I don't do that. And this whole thing about this, this chasing ghosts of our past, I need to know where I come from. Really? Okay, you need to know where you come from because the daddy who raised you. and lovingly took care of you and came to every single stupid recital, watched you in your two-two, went to all your volleyball practices, was there when Bobby dumped you and let you cry on his shoulder, tucked you in at night, stayed up at night to make sure you got home okay, scrimped and saved and sacrificed to buy you a car. paid for you to go to college, was there every time you called, he was there, and taking care of your mother, no less, and you need to find out where you come from? Who do you think you are? Are you from some Celtic tribe that drove the snakes out of Ireland from 16 generations ago and all of a sudden now you're Irish man? What in the F are you talking about? I'll need to know who I am, where I come from. Where you come from? You went to Coontz High School. You were a C-minus student where signing your name got you a C. That's where you come from. You've done nothing of note in your life. You're a lazy excuse maker searching for some grand world in a harlequin romance because you watched a reality TV show. But where you come from, grow up. Make something of your life. Your life is not however many generations ago because sperm donor after sperm donor after sperm donor after sperm donor lived in some other country that you've never visited. I got news for you. It's not as exotic as you think it is. It looks just like here, except they haven't built anything new in the village in the last hundred years. It's cobbled together with fetch work and putty and wood. Well, I think I'm somewhere in France where my people's from. Go there and visit. See what they've done. There's no industry there. There are people riding their bicycle for a mile to go get a bag at and some cheese and come home.

That's what they do and watch bad French television. It's not some exalted status. You're not going to discover that you're somehow greatness because you really, really was moved when Elton John was singing to Princess Diana because she was laid up in the back of a car with the son of the Herod's owner. Your life is not going to be more grand by your sperm content. Quit. Just quit. Because all the while what you're doing, is that very, that simpleton who fell in love with your mother, even though she already had a child, who fell in love with your mother and took care of your mother and protected her and nursed her to death. You're telling him he's not your dad. God help you when you wake up one day and realize that, you are telling that man, he's not your dad. I think that makes him feel. Well, it's not really about him, Michael. I just need to know where I come from. Where you come from? 381 Stacey Street in orange on the corner. It's a rent house. It's brick. The roof's half missing. That's where you come from. Well, I need to know my DNA, Michael, because I've been told I'm 20% French, and then, Mike, I even got some African in me. You know, I got a, and then I got some Asian. Why don't you embrace the life you actually have and make something of that?

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