The Mark Arum Show 08-14-26 HR 1

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And now he's in the middle. He has not left the ship. So to me, I mean, that sounds not ideal. It's not like you're on a carnival cruise ship, right? It's an aircraft carrier and reports of shortages of food. And, and I mean, I am not, I cannot. I will not judge what a crew member is experiencing on board an aircraft carrier. It is not my place. It sounds bad for where I am. I would not want to be on that aircraft carrier for the entirety of 2026. But again, it's not for me to have an opinion on that. I don't have any credibility when it comes to what a sailor soldier is going through. But I would imagine, Deborah, there are a number of Vietnam War vets, Iraqi war vets. Desert Storm vets that hear this story and go, STFU kid, right? You're on a boat. You're not facing fire. You're not in the blank, as they said in Vietnam. You're not in a swamp. You're not dealing with the torrential rain we saw that Forrest Gump had to deal with it. Like, I'm sure there are veterans going. Put a sock in it, man. They've got a whole different perspective than the rest of us do. Again, that is not, I have no, I cannot judge. You are serving. I did not serve all credit to you. But I'm just imagining that there are vets that saw action in Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea. Vietnam that are like brushing this aside. Oh, you're having to eat tuna and noodles. Oh, pork. Oh, your flushable toilet isn't more, right? I can imagine. And I don't want to speak for veterans that serve during military conflicts. But in my mind, I bet that there's being, there's a lot of like. shrugging of the shoulders of vets that have served during active war took gunfire, lost people going, oh, you feel cooped up? You feel cooped up? You're on an aircraft carrier with indoor plumbing and showers? I might be wrong, but I'm not saying all Vietnam vets are feeling that way, but I bet there's a portion there going, just shut the hell up, kids. You're not in harm's way, really. Maybe I don't know. Again, I cannot opine on that. I think just sitting here, like, especially there's another ship that popped up in the South China Sea. It's a smaller ship. It's not an aircraft carrier. But they were struggling, they had no power for like 48 hours. So no running water, no electricity. And it was like 105 degrees. Like, it's just. But again, I have no frame of reference. I wasn't, you know, I didn't storm the beaches at Normandy. I wasn't in battling the Viet Cong. But I would imagine. And if you want to comment, if you're a vet and you feel the way I just said you might feel or you feel the opposite, feel free to reach out on me.

Uh, reach out to me, not on me. Reach out to me, social media or markiram.com and click on, contact us. Um, any developments again, again, Secretary Heggzat pushing back. Uh, but there is a replacement ship heading to, uh, the region, Deborah. Yeah. So the military is sending the USS George Washington to the mid-east and that's supposed to replace the USS Abraham Lincoln. Okay. And it should have some more, I guess more equipment. If they said they were running out of food or maybe the. things inside weren't working so well, this replacement should kind of ease some of that pain. And to be clear, the Pentagon said this was already planned. This wasn't in response to the sailor jumping overboard or the complaints in the articles in the military journals. But so maybe that that. sailor that I heard interview hadn't left the boat in 200 days. We'll get a reprieve. Do we have a timeline on when the USS Washington is going to be there? Hopefully soon. It's going to take a couple weeks to get out there. Yeah, it'll take a couple weeks for them to actually get out there. But if we do have any updates on the USS Abraham Lincoln, that's just my initial reaction. I would hate to be on that, but I would imagine there are soldiers that serve there going, I would have traded everything just to be stuck on a ship in the middle of the ocean for 200 days. I could very well be wrong. I am often wrong, and that might be an erroneous opinion that I just gave there. All right, let's go to New York City, ABC News, Peter Harlamboos. Peter, to say I was stunned that there would be a possible plea agreement concerning Luigi Mangione is an understatement. What was your initial reaction when this story broken? What do we expect to play out today? You're telling me, Mark, I mean, I was in court on Tuesday, and it seemed 100% certain that Mangione was going to state trial on those state murder charges on September 8th. Now we're expecting him to plead guilty to federal charges this morning during an abruptly scheduled court conference right around 11 a.m. The way this could work out is he could basically enter a plea for those two remaining federal stalking charges. Those carry a possibility of life in prison, though he could argue for more lenient sentence, also a federal facility. slightly nicer than a state one, at least here in New York. And also, by making this argument, his lawyers can basically say he's being subjected to double jeopardy when it comes to that other state case. They could push. to have that case at least delayed or, of course, thrown out. We'll have to see how state prosecutors respond to all of this. Again, all of this is subject to change. Luigi Mangione is someone who, you know, has behaved erratically in the past, the allegations at the center of the case being a principal example. If you think back a few months ago, he abruptly changed plans to argue this psychiatric defense. So it's fully a possibility that even though we understand that these plea talks have been going on for quite a while now, that this could change in the next few hours ahead of his appearance in court. Interesting. Now, Peter, you've been following this case since. day one, and at least from where I've been sitting, it seemed like the defense was ready to mount some kind of a defense, but all of a sudden we get this plea deal here. I would imagine prosecutors probably stunned by this as well.

state prosecutors appear if anything frustrated by this development. They've been insisting from day one that they deserve to go first, that they're the ones who have been pushing for this case, that they have primary jurisdiction in their opinion, and that they have the support of the family. So all of that in mind has been part of the reason why they believe they have the right to go first. And if anything, they could still push for a trial, even if Mangione enters a plea deal. Also, prosecutors in the state case have basically said that if Mangione happens to basically plead guilty, they're going to push the federal judge to impose a particularly stiff sentence. They want him to serve the rest of his life in prison. Peter Harlamoos from ABC News joining us here on the Mark Aram Show. So, um, We have not yet been released any of the details what's going on behind the scenes with this plea deal. Are we getting any clarification later this morning? Is that a point where the court will lay everything out before us? Yeah, I think we'll get a ton more clarity at least later this morning when May and Tony appears in federal court. For now, it's unclear what exactly he'll be pleading guilty to. He only faces two remaining federal stalking charges in the federal case. It's possible that this guilty plea includes some other charges. We'll have to see it's unspecified at this point. And then also, how. the sentencing potentially takes place. Again, at this point, nothing is on the calendar, but if he does plead guilty, today's not the day he's going to get sentenced. There's also speculation that he might be able to have this kind of pre-sentencing hearing where his lawyers can present some mitigating factors. For example, if they're truly arguing that he was suffering from a psychotic break. during this alleged assassination, perhaps they could present evidence to that to argue to life in prison. Talk about the, you mentioned evidence. Talk about the evidence against Mangione. How strong was the prosecutor's case here? Yeah, I mean, there was a near a mountain of evidence in this case against Mangione, and this is perhaps part of the reason it is shifted from going to trial to a potential guilty plea because Mangione has been fighting to restrict the use of some of the strongest evidence in this case. There is the alleged murder weapon, which was found in his backpack. There is writings that basically amount to a confession. He also talks about his plan to escape New York allegedly. And then on top of that, there are these other items found in his backpack where it basically seemed as though he thoroughly packed for his escape from New York. Also on top of that, there's video of the actual shooting itself, even though you don't clearly see the shooter's face. So again, he tried his best to have this evidence thrown out. Both the judges in his state and his federal case disagreed, allowed that evidence to be used at trial. And perhaps that's part of the reason why his lawyers thought he had less of a chance. chance once they got that negative ruling for their part when it came to the evidence. I'll end with this, Peter, and I don't have to tell you, but, you know, Mangione became kind of like a cult-like figure after the murder of Brian Thompson, the United Healthcare CEO. I was just under the assumption that his attorneys, the group of attorneys that are presented him, would roll the dice and be like, you know what, we can get one sympathetic juror. on this jury, let's go that route and take our chances. Yeah, I mean, I was increasingly also in the school thought that he had so much public support, it seems. He had all these public supporters. He had raised $1.5 million for his own legal defense through a crowdfunding campaign that he was at least going to try it. But the more I think about it, the more it seems like that might have been a road to nowhere. And that, yes, even if he convinced one juror that he should not be found guilty, as a hung jury, prosecutors aren't just going to give up after their first try. They tried again and again and again.

This does not seem like the kind of case where they would ever give in. And it also seems like it's the kind of case where it'd be hard to unanimously convince a jury to acquit him. That just seems like the impossibly high burden, especially with all that evidence we just mentioned. So perhaps it became increasingly clear that this was the better option, or at least the option that could spare him the possibility of life of prison. All right. You should get some clarification later this morning in Manhattan. Peter, great stuff, as always. Have a good day, my friend. Take care, Mark. You're telling me, Mark. Again, nothing. Hey, Peter, we're done. Hang up, Peter. Um, 11 a.m. Peter will be in the courtroom. I was kind of stunned about this. I thought for, I thought just for the show aspect of it that Mangione would be like, let's do the trial. But I was wrong, as is often the case. Nothing signed sealed and delivered yet. We'll find out at 11. And then Peter brought up a good thing. These are the federal charges. What will the state of New York do? They might not give up. They might still try to try him. I can't imagine that prosecutors are going to take. Any chance that he has any sort of parole. Like we saw here in the Appalachia High shooting. I can't envision a plea deal where Mangione, oh, good behavior. He's out in 25 years. I can't imagine that as the case. I thought this was going to go to trial, though. You know, the fact that, all right, can we get one? person that thinks Mangione's a rock star. You know, there's those people that built shrines to him and donated money. You just need one of them on the jury, but Peter made a good point that if it was a hung jury, prosecutors were going to give up. So we'll monitor the courtroom in New York. Peter will be there. 11 a.m. today, allegedly. Updates on 955. WSP. 924 on the Mark Aram show. When you hear this song, Deborah. What's the first thing you think of? Well, I think of Sunday and Cher the variety show, but you think of Groundhog's Day. Groundhog Day, right? This is the themes. Basically the theme song to Groundhog's Day. This is indeed Sunny and Shared. I got you, babe. Peaked at number one in the pop chart in 1965. That's so funny. Groundhog Day. This song was a huge hit before Groundhog Day, but now I hear it. All I do is think about Groundhog Day. Welcome back to the Mark Aram show. Speaking of music, Debra's got two prize packs to give away a little bit later on the show. Tickets to see Blackberry Smoke and Sugar Land, so two chances to win on 95-W-Sb. I mentioned that on this date in 1965, Sunny and Shares, I Got You Babe, peaked at number one. More importantly, on this date in 1945, we heard from President Harry Truman announcing. My fellow Americans, Supreme Allied Commander General MacArthur, and Allied representatives on the battleship Missouri in Tokyo Bay. The thoughts and hopes of all America, indeed of all the civilized world. are centered tonight on the battleship, Missouri. There it is. On this date of 1945, President Harry Truman announced that Japan had surrendered unconditionally ending World War II and setting off celebrations across the country. The famous picture in Times Square of the, was it the nurse kissing the soldier? Yeah. Was that after VE Day or was that after?

I think it was VE. Probably, right. Yeah, I think that was the bigger. It felt bigger because of, you know, the Nazis. Yeah, it did because of the Nazis. Most things do feel bigger because of the Nazis. Unemployment is down compared to what it was, you know, historically. But there's been a drop in the labor force, which actually might be helping keep that unemployment rate low. Why are we seeing a drop in the labor force right now, Deborah? Okay. Well, it kind of makes sense, right? As boomers start to retire, you know, move on, obviously they don't need, some of them don't need those part-time jobs. Some of them are just enjoying retirement. And the boomer generation was quite big. So it seems like when they exit, it's a big number drop in the labor force. Gotcha. Yeah. And there was a little, it comes stories about how some younger people have just given up trying to find job. And then. disability has been on the uprise as well. Okay, so a number of factors, but headlighted by boomers saying, I don't need to worry. My dad is turning 80 in December. Bless his heart. He's worked hard his entire life. He retired like 20 years ago. And that lasted two weeks. And my mom's like, same thing for my dad. Get a job. And he's still working. I don't know if I, A, I'm going to make it to 80 years old. But B, if I were 80, I was going to, I'll keep on working. That's out of my hands. News weather and traffic in three. When we come back, some big headlines out of the Iran War, Tyler Kendall's going to join us from Bloomberg News. Political analyst Bill Crane live at 1035 talking all-thing politics, including the big races here in Georgia. Social media is active through the broadcast at Mark Aram and at WSB Radio. And don't forget, you can tell your smart speaker to play 955. WSB.

Yeah, we heard from President Trump in an interview with Axios over the weekend. He said he was going to low-key it, in his words, which was taken to mean that the U.S. was opting against expanding military operations and instead going that other route to squeeze Iran on the economic front, which... the U.S. Treasury Secretary at the moment is preparing. We know there's heightened risks when it comes to what an actual military escalation would look like, which is part of the administration's calculation here in terms of our weapons stockpiles and the risks to U.S. troops in the region, as well as how much more they could actually get out of Iran since at this point nothing's really brought them. to the negotiating table, and we've gotten very little indication that they're willing to let up this newfound leverage when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz overnight. I'm sure you saw, even as the U.S. says that it is enforcing the naval blockade and is working to escort tankers. We saw at least two UAE state-linked vessels be hit while they were trying to transit through the Strait of Hormuz. Yeah, obviously the straits still uncertain in the future of it, for sure. I would imagine, Kendall, there's a lot of conversations at the counter at Waffle Houses around Metro Atlanta today. topic of the war that was discussed was what's going on right now on the USS Abraham Lincoln. You hear anything new in D.C. this morning on the fate of the crew members there? So there had been Wall Street Journal reporting yesterday that they were going to rotate in a different aircraft carrier, the USS George Washington. According to the journal's reporting, this was already supposed to happen before we got these reports about the conditions there. I can't say here in Washington, we are hearing from lawmakers on Capitol Hill who have been demanding answers on exactly what the conditions look like. and you know how the Pentagon is working to mitigate some of these risks. There was a letter sent by the senator from Connecticut Democrat Richard Blumenthal, who I believe said that the carrier has been deployed for so far 250 days, but it hasn't taken a port call in 200 days, which is a record. So there's a lot to watch out on that front, but I haven't seen the administration weigh in. quite yet today. Finally, Tyler, I know the president is planning to campaign, head to New York today to campaign in the governor's race there. Do we expect he'll take questions from reporters either before, there, or after? It's very likely he could. We didn't really hear from him that much yesterday amid a slew of closed door events. Today, maybe we can hear him. He's been a little active on true social. already, but no doubt he's going to want to try to talk about messaging around the economy as Republicans continue to play defense on the issue as the conflict in Iran drags on. Tyler, great stuff as always. Hopefully you have a calm and relaxing weekend, my friend.

Thank you. There you go. Tyler Kendall from the North Lawn at the White House for Bloomberg News on 95-5. WSP. President Trump, we believe, is going to hit the campaign trail heading up to New York City a little bit later on the show. We'll talk to White House correspondent John Decker, who may or may not be traveling with the president today as he heads to New York. Obviously, the midterms are not too far away, so the president's get out there and stump for his preferred candidates. All right, joining us now from ABC News. It's Jim, it seems like every day listeners to WSP radio here. about just crazy story, crazy story, crazy story, and they want to know what the flock is going on. Well, yeah, Flock, of course, is the nation's biggest operator of automated license plate readers, the technology that's gotten so much attention lately. Maybe partly because it's AI powered, right? And there's suspicion broadly about artificial intelligence. But, yeah, outcry in some communities that have decided to stop the Flock cameras or stop the plate readers from going into place. That now Flock itself, Flock safety, that company has laid out new policies that are intended to prevent the sort of abuse that we've seen in communities all over. the country market. I think part of the exposure, extra exposure we've seen here in Metro Atlanta is that, you know, flock safety is headquartered here in Atlanta. And a lot of the jurisdictions in the suburban area of Atlanta, the metro area, were some of those early adopters to the flock cameras. And I mean, we've just been getting pummeled with misuse of the data and the technology. Well, right. Yeah, I've seen cases all over Georgia, in fact, all over the south and southeast of police officers or police chiefs in some cases abusing that technology and tracking former spouses or keeping tabs on boyfriends and girlfriends. And so, yeah, we've seen those cases. And that's sort of what the flock safety policies that went into effect or intended to address. Every vehicle search now will have to have a reason. So, in other words, the police officers can't just sit there and look at data related. to a car or a truck that a former spouse is driving around. They'll have to have audit assistance. which would be mandatory. Yeah, I mean, that was an option before with Block safety, but now this tool will flag abnormal search behavior, such as an officer making a search of one license plate over and over again. So, Flack is trying to get ahead of this, but is it too late? Hard to say, Mark. Well, I mean, and I said this yesterday, Jim, we were talking about this. Like, there's obviously some sort of oversight, right? Because we see these police officers, law enforcement folk getting busted doing what they shouldn't be doing with it. So there's obviously. see some sort of mechanism there to catch people that are ill-intented. But, I mean, this is a brand-new industry. Are these just growing pains knowing, hey, this is new technology? We're not really sure what to do yet, but we'll get more experience as we go down the road. Yeah, I think you're right. You know, that may be a part of it here, but will it go the way of red light cameras? Remember that technology? It was so controversial, and eventually...

cities were taking them out. So, yeah, I mean, and police departments say the technology works, Mark. You know, investigators say that they've managed to solve crimes or they've managed to prevent crimes using this technology by tracking vehicles. So. Yeah, somewhere in the middle, you've got those police departments that are saying, you know what, we'd like to keep this in place, but maybe with modifications to keep abuse from happening. Jim Ryan from ABC News, great explainer on what the flock is going on. Jim, appreciate your time. Have a great weekend, my friend. Thanks, Mark. Not even a chuckle out of Jim. Nothing. He's stoic. He's stoic. We're going to continue our flock team coverage. Coming up after the news at 11, Shadi Abu Saeed from the Atlanta Journal Constitution on what Atlanta police are going to do to root out flock misuse. When we come back, you're not going to believe what this dude was arrested for doing, allegedly, near an elementary school here in Georgia. Here's the story of a lovely lady. 952 on the Mark Aram show. Come back to the Brady Bunch because Cindy, the youngest Brady girl, turned 65 today. She's officially a senior. I just had a great idea. Is English Nick still do his rock and roll karaoke deal? Absolutely. How about TV show theme song karaoke? That I would participate in. Green Acres is the place to be. Okay. Let's, I think that would, you know, not every week. Once a quarter, you do TV sheet. Sure, something, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Nick, if you're listening, that's a free idea. I'll, and if you do it, I'll come and promote it and I'll sing TV show theme songs on karaoke. All right, so I tease this story. It's a back-to-school story. Not very heartwarming, but it's a back-to-school story. Man was arrested for doing what near an elementary school, Deborah? All right. Well, this is in Georgia, Floyd County. A man was arrested, got multiple drug charges, including having enough narcotics to qualify as a drug dealer within 1,000 feet of an elementary school. He had about 60 grams of Coke on him, another 800 grams of marijuana, plus all of the things that you needed to, like, weigh and package everything that you were, all of it included. Yeah, and of course, he was that. close to a school and it wasn't even kind of shy about it right and that's how the and it's an elementary school exactly it's not a high school um and i would imagine that makes it better those possession charges the dealing charges are more severe when you're in a school yeah when you're in a school now i i throw the book at the dude right what are you doing trying to sell coke near a school at that point you want to sell weed near a high school all right we we we don't condone it we can understand it Vap pens, whatever, but cocaine in elementary school. But I thought of what I think would be a very funny movie is because I'm picturing, you know, first time parents back to school. They've got a couple of kids, a first grader or a kindergartner and a second grader living that crazy parental lifestyle. Doing the bus drop or the school drop off. Yeah, they do the drop off and then they got to work and they're just beat. They're just exhausted.

Like when Judd was a new dad coming into work, the hair's a mess. I think it might be a funny movie that, you know, those people that wave the buses in and they do the car lanes. Yeah, the direct traffic, yeah. Like there's a kid who's like 22, and he gets that as a part-time job to wave the buses through. But his main source of income is he's like selling amphetamines to parents as they drop the car. I'm pretty sure that I've seen that somewhere. Really? Oh, damn it. I think that'd be a funny movie, like a young Seth Rogen. gets hired to be a school crossing guard. And he sees the exhausted parents. And he's like, yeah, do you want to pick me up? And they're like, what do you got? And whatever, gives him an up. I don't know. I don't know the drug term. I think that'd be a fine. Again, don't do that. If you're unemployed, don't do that. Don't apply to be a school guard or there's got to be a name for the people that I'm thinking about Mr. Mom. Do you remember Mr. Mom when Michael Keaton was driving the wrong way when he's dropping the kids off at school? And there was a lady there saying, hey, Johnny, you're going the wrong way. Lefty out, righty, any, or whatever. Like that job. Selling. uppers to exhausted parents at elementary schools. I would watch that movie. One more back to school. This is a better story. The end result is a better story. Apparently, there was a seventh grader, had a knife in school. This is not in Georgia, though, right? No, this was Virginia. Virginia. Virginia is for lovers. Seventh grader has a knife. Goes to attack the teacher. What happens next, Deborah? Okay, so... You know that age of middle school, junior high, whatever, kind of 12 to 13, depending on how old year or whatever, then you start. So those are like the worst kids, right? I was probably my worst at that age. My nephew's right in there. Going through puberty. Yeah, it's just a terrible time to be in school. So this one 12-year-old has a knife, not getting along with the teacher, I guess, stabs the other student, the other seventh graders, jump in to pull him away, get him away from the teacher. Now, she is stabbed non-life-threatening injuries. She's going to be okay. But it was great. that these students actually, rather than break out their phone and film it, which I'm sure somebody did, a bunch of students actually helped to pull the other students. They saved the teacher. Saved the teacher. Yeah. That is good. That makes me feel better about. That's the cool teacher then, you know. Yeah, absolutely. There's always the one teacher we were like, eh. Even if it was a teacher I disliked, if they were getting attacked by a knife-wielding student, I think I would jump in. You think so? Yeah. Morally, you have to. You'd do it for a stranger. I would be scared and stand in the back of the class. Well, as long as there's more people coming to the right. I don't want to be the solo hero. I'm not a solo hero. I will join in a group hero effort. All right, so two back to school. Welcome back to school, parents and kids. All right, three minutes away from news, weather, and traffic. One week, come back. Very excited to be talking to Madison Mills from Axios. She is their senior AI reporter. I'm trying to make sense of this new AI world that we live in. Very excited to pick her brain. Politicalanos, Bill Crane at 1035. And Deborah's got two amazing prize packs to give away. A pair of tickets to see Blackberry Smoke. And.

A pair of tickets to see Sugar Land. Two chances to win coming up right here on the Mark Aram show.