The Hybrid Gallery creating safe space for queer and trans arts and the greater Eugene community

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But as you're driving down the street, you see this really cool house that belongs to Ron LaFond, a local artist who you should go see his house if you have the chance. It's open every last Friday. His whole house is painted. And we are right next to it in a vibrantly painted building. We have a quantum coffee roasters that rents the front part of the building. And they have also Brown Hornet Records right next to it. And then in the back, it's us, the hybrid gallery. You enter into... our retail space, which has lots of art from local artisans and recycled and upcycled clothing and vintage stuff and a bar. And then you enter into the hallway and there's, that's where the art starts. So we have a hallway where currently we have an exhibition up of instant Polaroids and it's very, very cool. And then you keep going and you go into the main gathering hall. And that's a really large room. It's, set up with comfy booths and sofas and seating and lots of fun stuff to do like art supplies and um

Oh, gosh. Board games. Sorry about that. Yeah, lots of board games, art supplies, stuff to do. It's a great place to come and read, draw, paint, just hang out, body double. And then that room we also usually have a show up. Right now we have a show with Santiago Osaida, a local illustrator. Yeah, and there are lots of different activities and lots of different art that's being created in the space. Is there something that binds it all together? Is there a theme that runs through the art that's created at the hybrid? Not that binds the art together, but I would say that binds the people together. We are an inclusive community that is really just focused on creativity. So creativity is a guiding focus in the life of most of the people who go the hybrid gallery. Whether that's their job, whether it's just their hobby, whether they just love to draw or knit or whatever. As I mentioned, you had a little while ago pioneered new classes, the queer and transfigure drawing class. Why was that necessary? Well, we really wanted to uplift marginalized bodies. We noticed in Eugene that there's a lot of figure drawing at some really great places, but it's all pretty... normative bodies that are representative. So we wanted, we were actually originally started with body positive figure drawing. So that's like plus size. disabled, anything, you know, out of the realm of normal was what we tried to uplift. And then Mars actually approached us and asked if he could turn one of our sessions into a queer and trans figure drawing. And we thought that was just the most fantastic idea and fit perfectly with our vision. Mars, it sounds like you didn't have to do a lot of convincing, but what was your pitch for that class? Yeah, I... used to run a queer and trans figure drawing group in rural north Idaho where I lived before I moved here and was or moved back to Eugene and I grew up here and with running queer and trans figure drawing sessions at the Oregon Country Fair someone who attended that session approached me and said you know this is great I would love to be doing this more regularly and asked me about if I knew there were if there were similar classes in Eugene. I had just moved back to Eugene and didn't know if there were. So we were looking at classes around town and making sure we didn't reinvent the wheel and found the body positive figure drawing class at the hybrid gallery. And after one of the sessions that we attended just as artists approached Geneva and approached the staff there and asked if we could

yeah, add another queer and transfigure drawing class to the body positive session. And they were, yeah, really happy to collaborate with us. I think we had really similar visions, thinking about the ways that we can uplift marginalized bodies and, yeah, have a really wide variety of artists and models. Yeah. You know, when you consider any kind of figure drawing for the human body, there are a lot of considerations around safety and comfort. And how is it different with queer and trans bodies and not normal bodies? What are the extra considerations that you need to bring into a class like that? Yeah, absolutely. Part of it is making sure that it's a really supportive environment, I think, of figure drying, and think about our class in particular as one that's really a collaboration between the models and the artist. It really starts with understanding. and making sure that the artist feels really supported and safe, and understanding that it is often a vulnerable thing to do, especially with people who have, you know, non-normative bodies in a variety of different ways to make sure that that is both supported and celebrated and also seen as a really normal part of just the library of human experience. We have all of our artists. fill out an etiquette form to make sure that everyone's on the same page about being respectful to the model. And also, I regularly check in with the model to make sure that they're feeling supported and safe and that they have, yeah, that they're also feeling in control. Has anybody created something in one of your classes that just blew you away or surprised you in some way? Hmm.

I mean, certainly. We have a pretty large array of artists, something I think is really lovely about the queer community and about figure drawing in particular. It's that it draws people from really broad ranges of experience. We have people who have been, who come regularly, who have been figure drawing for 20 years, and people who it's their first time figure drawing, and they wanted to come to a queer and trans event and try something new. I think I'm often really blown away by people who come to their first, come, and this is their first ever figure drawing class. I'm always really impressed by, yeah, the different ways that people are... creating and seeing the model and bringing their own touch to the art that they're creating. How do you find the models? Yeah, mostly they find me. I've been really thrilled by the... By the interest in modeling, we have a form of model it for, but a model interest form, like a Google Doc form that people fill out. And I have enough models to book me probably all the way through next year. And yeah, and pretty regularly, artists will come up to me after a class and ask if they could model, which is always really lovely. If you're just tuning in, we're talking right now about a gallery and Eugene that is a safe space for transgender and queer artists to gather and create their work. We've been speaking with Morris Cantrell, who is an art instructor there, and we also have Geneva, who is the general manager for the hybrid gallery. Geneva, we've been zeroing in on this figure drawing class. Can you talk more about how it figures into the overall mission of the hybrid gallery? Sure. So as I think I mentioned before, the guiding principles of the hybrid gallery are just community and creativity. So when people approach me and they want to hold things in our space, if they fit those. You know, those two things, we're pretty game to try it out, usually. We have such a crazy wide variety of things happening, but they all go back to, you know, being creative in some way and building community in some way. We have like a jazz jam that happens. It's all about community. We have lots of art workshops and writing workshops and writing circles, especially a specifically queer, safe space for writing and storytelling. I'm going to forget so many things because we just do so much. We have an open mic weekly every Wednesday that is community-led and community-focused. So our hosts are all local community volunteers who are creatives themselves. And it's a really beautiful space where we come together and uplift each other. There's no heckling allowed. It's all just really beautiful, vulnerable sharing.

Probably one of my favorite events that we've had was called Unlovely, and it was a variety show focused on heartbreak. And even knowing what it was going to be about, the impact that it had on me that night was just... unlike anything I could have imagined. It was just this incredible experience of people coming together and sharing in whatever medium they use. There was a lot of poetry. There was music. There was comedy. There was all kinds of stuff, but it was just grief. And you were able to kind of feel and move through this grief with people collectively. And it was just gorgeous. So I think that that event is one really perfect example of what we're trying to accomplish there. Geneva, you're giving me the impression that you just take all comers, as long as they're coming to you in the spirit of creativity and inclusivity. But have you ever had to turn somebody away and just say, yeah, this isn't what we do here? Yeah, there's definitely things that don't fit into our ethos. And I've also unfortunately booked a few things and then come to found out that the producers are problematic in some way in the community and had to unfortunately walk things back. But that's another thing we really value is the safety of our community. And I get to have those uncomfortable conversations sometimes, but it's always worth it. Yeah. Mars Cantrell, I'd like to know. what a space like the hybrid gallery means for you as an artist and as a trans man and as a member of the Eugene Creative Community. Yeah, it means a lot to me. Something that I really enjoyed is getting to meet so many people who have a similar interest to me. It's really fun. There are a lot of people who I, you know, have met and met in other places and seen around town and got to other events with and said, oh yeah, you're a familiar face. It's nice to see you here. And on the other end of that, I've encountered people through figure drawing and through other events I've been to with the hybrid who, if we didn't have this shared interest in art and in drawing, that I probably would have never connected with. So it's really lovely to be able to, yeah, build community both with people that I would kind of expect to see who are similar in age or in demographic to me and also people who I would have. maybe never encountered before, but have something in common with and get to share space with them. Well, Mars Cantrell and Geneva-Vinson, it was great to hear about this space, and thank you so much for coming on the show.

Thank you for having us. Thank you so much. It was a pleasure. Geneva Vincent is the general manager of the hybrid gallery in Eugene, and Mars Cantrell is an art instructor there. Tomorrow on Think Out Loud, outdoor camps across Oregon have been severely impacted by poor air quality from wildfire smoke. Camps are being forced to move indoors or even cancel altogether. We'll hear from camp directors in eastern and central Oregon about how they're responding to the smoky air. Our production staff includes Mali Afas, Roli Hernandez, Gemma de Carlos, senior producer Alison Frost, and managing producer Shiraz Sadiq. Idrisa Gaye is our summer intern. Naline Silva and Layla Isbel engineer the show from the Gert Boyle Studio. Our technical director is Stephen Cray, and our executive producer is Sage Van Wing. If you don't want to miss any of our shows, you can listen wherever you get your podcast. Our nightly rebroadcast is at 8 p.m. Thank you for tuning in to Think Out Loud on OPB and KLCC. I'm Jeff Norcross. Have a great day. Think Out Loud is supported by Steve and Jan Oliver, the Rose E. Tucker Carlson Charitable Trust, Michael, Kristen, Andrew Kern, and Anna Sanford, and the Jackson Foundation.

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