Self-Driving Cars, Fauci F Bombs and COVID Flashbacks | 7.30.26 - The Grace Curley Show Hour 2

Sugar, spice, and everything nice. These were the ingredients chosen to create. The Grace Curley Show. Radio, TV, print, Grace Curley does it all. She sings, she dances, she acts. I'm waiting by the door for my pull-it service. She sounds hideous. She's just the worst. Yeah, she's a whack-up. She is, she is the devil. Now here's the millennial with the mic. He still leaves me both breathless and speechless. I love her. I love her. She is the best. Some will ask you to say grace. Grace Curley. Great! 508, and this is why I love my texters here at the Grace Curly Show. If you ever want to text in, it's 617, 213, 1066, just start the text with the word curly. 508 says, don't you love when people say Anthony Fauci served the public for 40 years as if he was working pro bono? Yeah, the guy was making, I don't know what he was making at the beginning of his career. But at the end, I know what he was making, over $400,000. He was making more than Trump. A lot more than Trump. as far as his public service goes. And I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to be loud or stunned or, you know, just overcome with appreciation over the public service that he's given us. I don't know. And, you know, Senator Josh Hawley said something similar, like maybe you were better in the beginning of your career. And maybe, but I doubt that we saw Anthony Fauci at the one time that he was so duplicitous. But I'll tell you this, if he was good at the beginning of his career, whatever, the end of his career is going to overshadow whatever good the good doctor did because of the damage. Shutting the schools down being, I think, the number one. We can talk about the lab leak. And, you know, I saw it back and forth between Chris Andrew Cuomo, who is a moron. Fredo Andrew Cuomo. I can be smart. I'm not like people say. I can be smart. Fredo has on John Fetterman, who once again has become the voice of reason in the Democrat Party. And he's asking him, well, you know, the way they're going about this with Anthony Fauci, he should really stick to just lifting weights. Okay, macho, macho man. Whenever he tries to weigh in on these things, he loses the plot really quickly. So essentially, and I'm paraphrasing here because it's hard to translate Chris Andrew Cuomo moron speak, but essentially what he says is, well, if they're accusing Anthony Fauci of all this, isn't it an American virus and Trump was calling it the China virus? You have this cut? I don't know, Taylor. I don't know if I can take it. All right, play me a little bit. Here's what I don't get, Senator. It didn't discourage the president from calling it the China virus, right? And he made plenty of suggestions, and the right was fine with that. What I don't get is, why have regret about whether or not it came from the lab when you don't know what that even means? Who made it in the lab? Do you have any reason to believe that anything that America funded on Anthony Fauci's Watch or otherwise could have even possibly led to it? Have you ever heard anybody ask any questions? Can you stop there? Because I want to tell Chris Coleman was something.

These would be groundbreaking questions if they had come six years ago. And the reason that those kind of questions were not answered was because people like you and your Chaubella brother were suppressing as much information as possible and bullying anyone who had valid questions about the origins of COVID. Do you hear yourself? I feel like I'm taking crazy bills here. Again, now you're drumming up all these questions. Why didn't they answer this? Why didn't they? Because you were telling us that asking those questions was going to label us as a grandma killer or a conspiracy theorist. You were shaming people in the American public who had valid questions about where this thing started from. Tom Cotton wrote a piece in the New York Times. And we were told he had a tinfoil hat. Dr. Rand Paul was booted off YouTube. Do you remember any of this or were you too busy shoving Q-tips up your nose with your big brother on CNN? It's like, give me a break. Break me off a piece of that Kit-Cat bar. And someone else who has the audacity. Not the audacity of hope, the audacity of dope. To chime in on this is George Stephanopoulos. Taylor, I don't know. I threw it at Matt last minute to grab this. Do we happen to have George Steffi responding to Anthony Fauci's testimony? And Jay, a sign of the times that Dr. Anthony Fauci hearing yesterday about as partisan as it gets. It was. And now, after that hearing, the chair of that committee, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, says he wants to move to hold Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress. After Anthony Fauci pled the fifth, more than 100 times in that fiery hearing yesterday, Anthony Fauci said he did so as a way of protecting himself because he accused Paul in his words. We're going to get that. We are going to get that on a t-shirt at some point. Can you pause it? I understand I say it 4,000 times a day. The reason I love George Stephanopoulos talking about how partisan that hearing has become is because, again, could we have some self-reflection? Could we have a mea culpa? Does Georgie Steppi Stephanopoulos think it's worth mentioning to his viewers? Does he think it's worth divulging in this for the sake of transparency that I know he cares about so much that he's mentioned in the diaries? That he got a shout out in the diaries? I didn't get a shout out in the diaries. If I did, I'd be on here telling you. George Stephanopoulos did because George Stephanopoulos sent Anthony Fauci a text message in July of 2020, a sweet wet kiss text message. Thank you, Tony. So impressive. That's what he sent after Anthony Fauci.

brushed off a critical tweet from then President Donald Trump and went on Good Morning America to talk about it. He said, thank you, Tony. So impressive. It seems like now that the worm has turned on Dr. Anthony Fauci, George Stephanophilus doesn't find it so impressive. You think he's going to be sending Josh Hawley a text? Thank you, Josh. So impressive. If you are mentioned in this diary, this is like what Howie always talks about with the enemies list. If you weren't mentioned on the enemies list, it was a sign that you weren't a good journalist, you weren't doing a good job. If you're mentioned in these diaries, and I'm talking about you Jake Tapper, and I'm talking about you Dana Bash, and I'm talking about you George Stephanopoulos, you're pathetic. You should hang it up now. You should have hung it up five years ago. But now you should definitely hang it up. Because now we know that not only and oh, oh, oh. Taylor, I just got a brain blast. And I also have had two cups of coffee, so they're coming in strong. I thought about this the other day because remember ABC had the whole issue with George Stephanopoulos where he was calling Trump like a rapist on the air? Or however he was phrasing it legally was a liability. So they had to settle with the Trump administration. And we also had this with CNN. A lot of these networks have settled with Trump, right? And we always hear about how mad. And it was a segment. I remember it was a segment with Nancy Mace, George Stephanopoulos. And let me just get the actual transcript here. It was George Stephanopoulos, Nancy Mace. Yes, this morning. And you've endorsed Donald Trump for president. Judges and two separate juries have found him liable for rape and for defaming the victim of that rape. Right. How do you screw your endorsement of gun? He was misstating the actual civil jury finding of sexual abuse. And he kept saying they found him liable for rape. And later. ABC had to pay $15 million to Trump, which he's going to use for the presidential library, which is really, it seems to me like it's going to be the most luxurious over-the-top library known to man because so much of it is being paid for by these morons in our media. But then there's also been settlements, and I'm going to, I feel like one of these, like Joe Rogan looking at looking up stuff on my computer, CNN settles with Trump. Because they all have these big settlements. Oh, CNN did not settle with Trump. No settlement exists between them and Trump's $475 million defamation suit against the network was dismissed by a federal judge in 2020. Okay, so not CNN, but there has been some big settlements between ABC and a few others. And a lot of people, when these settlements go down, you hear about how mad they are, Taylor. Like George was mad that they settled with him. And in my mind, I was thinking, Wait, you cost your network $15 million. They're already paying you way more than I think you're worth. You're getting a massive paycheck. Then you, who knows how much revenue George Stephanopoulos brings in, but then you cost the company $15 million because they have to cover up for your sloppy, for your sloppiness on air. And you're the one who's mad? You're mad at them? Make that make sense. But he was mad that they settled. And I remember thinking the reason they're settling is because they know that discovery would be the end of their network forever.

Because if you think that behind the scenes, these anchors aren't texting producers and guests and revealing, not that we don't already know how partisan and despicable they are, but behind the scenes, if what they're showing us on air is any indication, behind the scenes, it would completely, the mask would have completely fallen off. So that's all to say that with Anthony Fauci's diary. We get a tiny taste of how much of this is happening between this public servant who's fighting with Donald Trump and these anchors who are sending him love notes every time he goes and does a TV hit. You did so great. I'm so proud of you. You're such a good boy. So we are getting a little something. Can you imagine if one of these networks did Discovery and we got to see the emails that go between Jake Tapper and Dana Bash and George Stephanopoulos and Anthony Fauci? It would be over for them. It would be over for them. And even CNN is admitting that Anthony Fauci's performance left a lot to be desired and could put him in more trouble. Can I have Ryan Goodman cut three, please?

112 times to invoke the Fifth Amendment. I mean, you can't even string all that together. That obviously, it sends a message. Will that strategy work? Because he says, well, I had to do that because, you know, they're looking for perjury traps. Or does that just make it worse? And is he in real trouble? I think it makes it worse. It's even a curious way in which you wonder what his legal advice was, why they decided to do that. Because he does not face criminal jeopardy for the pardon in all likelihood. His pardon for all actions before January 2025. But that also means that you're forced to testify. That's how prosecutors use immunity or pardons. And they say now you're forced to testify because you don't have any criminal liability. What we're going to ask you about. So then to plead the fifth is actually... he could then be held in contempt. There could be, theoretically, at least, a justice department that goes after him for not answering when he is not really facing that criminal judgment. Yeah, and also when the reason put out his perjury traps, then, of course, again, to the layperson, it's saying, well, why wouldn't you just say the truth? What would be the problem in that? So, you know, I understand that's a layperson thing, but it doesn't sound good. Yeah, he says he wonders what kind of legal advice Anthony Fauci was getting Taylor. If the primary source of that advice is the lawyer we saw yesterday, I don't think it's top-notch stuff. I don't think he's getting quality counsel because that guy was a buffoon. I mean, he got... He got kicked out of the hearing by Rampal and it was met with a giant round of applause because everyone was so sick of him responding back and talking when he's not even invited to be there and sitting at the table that he wasn't supposed to be sitting at. And also Anthony Fauci and I just want to throw this in. You can blame legal counsel. The guy did seem like an idiot. But I would throw in that much like Andrew Cuomo, another architect of so much of the destruction we saw during COVID, and another ego maniac, he was like Anthony Fauci in the sense that you couldn't tell them anything. No lawyer could stop him from doing a press conference. No lawyer could convince him. Maybe don't put that in your book. Maybe don't do that. Because for him, it's like if I'm talking, I'm winning. If people are hearing the beautiful sounds, the dulcet tones of my voice, then the world is a better place. So you're not going to talk guys like Anthony Fauci out of doing whatever they want to do. And the same goes for Andrew Cuomo. People forget about Andrew Cuomo. Not me. Not me. I see Fox. Fox has on Andrew Cuomo's lady there. Melissa DeRosa. Like she's getting this big comeback now. She was his wingwoman. They were getting glasses of wine together at the restaurants. I haven't forgotten. I will not forget the terrible, terrible leadership in decisions of Andrew Cuomo. Let it be known. Or Charlie Baker, for that matter. We'll be right back. You know what it is? I'll tell you what it is. It's anti-Italian discrimination. Follow Grace on X at G underscore Curley.

This is the Grace Curley Show. Taylor, who would you say is the most underrated COVID warrior? Like someone who was speaking out about COVID and speaking out about. the propaganda and the shaming of people for defending themselves or defending their rights to walk around without a mask on. I know Rand Paul obviously is getting a lot of well-deserved props for the way he's conducted himself over the last six years. But is there anyone else that you think deserves a round of applause? Marty Makary, Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan! Joe Rogan! Ron DeSantis, I think. I think that, I think having Florida as the... The juxtaposition of Florida with so many other places like New York and Massachusetts, it just created this alternate universe of what could happen if you had real leaders who weren't afraid of the woke mob, who weren't afraid of the science, Dr. Anthony Fauci. And everyone, including Anthony Fauci, they tried to make it out like, oh, he's going to have, remember the guy who was putting body bags all over the beach? There's going to be body bags in Florida because of Ron DeSantis. There's going to be all these dead people. And he ended up. He ended up doing such a wonderful service for the people in Florida, not to mention the young children who still got to play sports, who still got to socialize, who still got to go to school and get an education. He saved a lot of people's lives just by having that as a place people could escape to. So I think Ron DeSantis deserves a round of applause as well. Anybody that refused to close their business? Like the gym owners? The gym owners. Wasn't there a restaurant in Maine? and they were getting and they got fined a lot of these places were staying open they just couldn't afford the fines at a certain point they it was like death by a thousand uh fines and they had to finally give it up let's go to david you're up next what's going on david great a couple things uh A couple things real quick, Grace. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said this morning, he's been an interview that folks he lied about everything, everything, and they have proof because they have the diaries. The guy wrote it on the government laptop, and they have the proof that he lied about everything, social distancing for the safety of the vaccines. He had a hot problem after he got the vaccine and was still telling people that they were safe. A couple of things, Grace, real quick. CNN called that the China virus and the China flu month before Trump did. It was November, December. They were talking about the Chinese flu. And not only that great, one other thing, the pardon only covers federal charges. It doesn't cover state charges. Right. But he's not immune from states charging him with criminal activity. Yeah, yeah, I have heard that. I have heard certain states are.

you know, maybe considering that. I just don't hold out a lot of hope for those things. But I want to go back to your first point, David, because you just mentioned someone else who deserves credit. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. He wrote a book on it in 2021, the real Anthony Fauci. And so he was really adamant that this guy was pulling a con on all of us. And you're right. He ended up being right. I think, uh, I think Tom Cotton deserves a lot of credit. I think that. Scott Atlas, if you read Anthony Fauci's diaries, he was, he was the, the focus of a lot of ire from not just Dr. Anthony Fauci, but from that Alyssa Farah Griffin, who's now on the view as the conservative using air quotes, big air quotes. She was conspiring with Anthony Fauci around the clock, not even conspiring, just like crap talking people with Anthony Fauci. And a lot of people seem to be going to him to tell them. They were messaging Anthony Fauci to let him know that anyone who had said anything negative about him that they hated that person too. Like it reminds me of high school. Like he was the Queen Bee and everybody else who's trying to convince him, can I sit here with you at lunch? Because I heard what they're saying about you and they're just jealous because you're the coolest girl in school. And I heard the quarterback's going to ask you to the prom. Just a bunch of... Kiss ass losers who were looking for, I don't know, looking for a little bit of the extra fame that maybe they could grab from being attached to Anthony Fauci. But man, did they miscalculate that one? It was like the six foot distance calculation. Not a good move. We'll be right back. Stay on the line. We got more to talk about. We'll come back.

is on the air. We're getting a lot of great texts about some of the people who caught a lot of grief for saying, for stating the obvious during COVID. Eric Clapton, Dr. Drew, Adam Carolla. And you know what? What really pissed me off, Taylor, was how years later... John Stewart went on with like Stephen Colbert and made a joke about how, well, obviously it came from the Wuhan lab. They're studying coronavirus. That's like saying if there was a chocolate breakout in Hershey, Pennsylvania that it didn't start at the Hershey factory. Okay, wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. All right. John. Oh my God. Oh my God. There's been an outbreak of chocolatey goodness near Hershey, Pennsylvania. What do you think happened? Like, oh, I don't know. Maybe a steam shovel made it with a cocoa bean. Or it's the chocolate factory. Maybe that's it. Yeah, it's... That entire thing with John Stewart is burned into my brain because I think it is representative of all that is wrong with comedy at this point. Mainstream comedy is that they never take a risk and they never make a joke that goes against the narrative until they know it's safe. And then once they do, they all turn around and tell the other one, you're a renegade. You're so crazy. You're not afraid to say it how it is. And it's like years after actually brave people were kicked off of YouTube and run out of polite society. The people who pump themselves up as courageous and outspoken and artists and going against the machine and liberals, like the term liberal has really lost its meaning, the people who used to be on the front lines of. truth telling whether it being comedy or art or news they're all waiting for the queue they're all waiting for the green light from the powers that be to say now it can be said go off now now it can be said john stewart make them laugh and then the clapping seals and he's saying it to Stephen Colbert who by the way had the dancing syringes behind him during covid come on It's just pathetic. I want to do the poll question. We'll get back to your calls all about Anthony Fauci and COVID and everything else in just a minute here. But today's poll question is brought to you by my favorite spot on the Cape. Moby Dix and Wellfleet. It is the best spot for oysters, for lobster, just for a fun lunch. Even if you're a cheeseburger kind of person, they've got great land items as well. And everything there is so delicious. You are going to absolutely love it. So make sure you check them out at MobyDicks.com. That's, oh, I'm sorry, Mobies.com is where you want to find them. Mobies.com.

They are the best in the business. And Todd Bari Weiss is awesome. And they also have great swag. Make sure you buy their swag as well. Taylor, what is the poll question and what are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at grace curly show.com is, would you ride in a self-driving car? Yes. And I said this earlier that I don't think Taylor, I don't think there's enough being said about cruise control. I think cruise control. is underrated. Who's ever working the PR for cruise control? Who's ever in charge needs to step it up a bit? Because we're all sleeping on cruise control. I don't mean literally. Who's we all? This is a you thing. And my wife, you just refuse to learn how to use it. And I don't trust it. That's my wife. I don't trust it all the time. That's what I hear. And meanwhile, I didn't realize it could slow down. I thought cruise control, set it and forget it, and I'm going to be going 65 no matter what. I didn't realize that it will go, it will accelerate, it will decrease. That's a recent thing in the past, I don't know, five years or so. It's amazing. Yeah, it's great. It does the driving for you. And it's especially handy. I drive up, you know, 24 and 93 each day for work. And when there's traffic, which there always is some, slows down and stops and goes for you and stands still traffic. It's awesome. Do you ever get a little nervous that it's not going to slow all the way? That's happening. You know, you do have to be alert while using it. Because I'm like, I think to myself, I don't know. But you can set how close you want it to follow the car in front of you. My only problem with, and my car, I upgraded to a 22 instead of a 2011. I got a Camry a few months ago. But it, my problem with it is it doesn't speed up fast enough. Like it leaves too much of a gap when I'm in traffic. So it allows people to cut in front of me. And, you know, Boston messages, people will take advantage of that. So I got to keep on top of that. Are you an aggressive driver? When I have to be. I'm a defensive driver. I'm a preemptive driver. You're a defensive person. I can tell somebody's intentions just by their car posture. I know when they want to break in if they're not even signaling. I know that they're looking for an angle and I won't give it to them. Oh, you have like Adriano Espaillat, car Adriano Espaillat. Yeah, pretty much. Wow. Wow. I don't. I really try to mind my own business. And I apologize a lot. Oftentimes, if I can tell someone's mad, I think it's probably my fault. So I give them that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're a one lane driver. I've seen you drive before. Oh, my husband. My husband cannot handle it. He's a very nice person, this man I married. But when I tell you, he hates when I drive. He's like, can I just please? Can I just please? And he gets so stressed out, Taylor, because he says to me, if you're going to be in this lane, you've got to go faster than this. And I, and my feeling is, okay, but people don't have to get mad at me. If you go, if you go behind me, you start to get frustrated with me, I will move over. I just don't appreciate the, the attitude. Like, I move over to the lane to let you go. And then they stare at me as they drive by me. Like, you know, they want to see if the stereotype matches the person that they're thinking of. That's what I do. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely it does. Me chewing gum. Hi. Hi, guys. Sorry about that.

Yeah, no, I just, they get so angry. But my husband always says, if you're going to be in this language, you've got to go faster than this. And he's so self-conscious of how everyone's mad at me. And meanwhile, if he wasn't there telling me this, I would have no idea. Can I let you know why? Why? Because, all right, this might get a little personal. Oh, my God. Okay. But he's self-conscious because he is thinking of what people are going to think of him because he's not the one driving. Yeah. And they're going to question. Why isn't the man driving? I will say that if he's ever not driving, it's because I want to flex my driving skills and I want to get out there on the road. It's a request put in where I say, I'm on, I'm on at this time. You got to let me behind the wheel. I don't let just drive if I'm in the car. Men, men, men, men, men, men. Unless there's a super, like, it's a road trip and we've got to share the driving responsibilities. I've got to take a nap or something. But. Yeah, I'm driving. Yeah. Okay, so, but I'm on board for the robocars, the Waymo, as it's called. I could see it being a little scary. But what I was thinking when I was using the cruise control and I was digging it, I was thinking, the only thing that would make this better is if it could take turns. Like, you know, take a turn off the highway, take me to where I need to go, maybe do this and that. So I'm all for it. Let's go to Nick. You're up next. What's going on, Nick? Hey, how you doing? Good. Tommy Tuberville, Senator Tommy Tuberville is running for Senator. He's already up front saying that when he wins the governorship, and I'm pretty sure he will in Alabama, that he will send the Attorney General into an investigation into Anthony Fauci. South Carolina is doing that, and so is in Florida. Hopefully this will be a trend. If we can't get any... justice against Anthony Fauci, at least we can impoverish him. I'm wondering if this may spread to other countries. I know because it'll be a very constitutional, not crisis, but interesting thing because, yeah, we have our laws and he's been pardoned, but why should they care, right? Yeah, something you just said stuck out to me because. There is an argument to be made, and I felt this way with Trump. When people said, Trump, she's looking for revenge. She's just seeking revenge. She's not going to be able, like with the James Comey thing with the seashells. And Taylor and I talked about it on the air, you know, are they really going to be able to make this case? It seems like kind of heavy lifting. But the process is the punishment. Like I think to Nick's point, sometimes just making everything. a pain in the ass for these people that have caused so much destruction and pain to the rest of the country. Yeah, you got to show up for this. Yeah, you're going to be subpoenaed for this. Yeah, you got to get a lawyer for this. There is something there. I don't disagree with Nick on that. Let's go to Paul. Well, we still have some time here. Go ahead, Paul. Hey, Grace? Yeah. Oh, okay. Go ahead. Do you think it's possible? That this virus was released as a way of manipulating the election with the Chinese thinking, oh, we also have a vaccine later on and that this was just done to manipulate the election and then things got out of hand.

Yeah, I mean, I think anything's possible. But I definitely think that and it's like what Chris Andrew Cuomo was asking, you know, why were we funding this? Why were we looking into gain a function? Why was any of this happening? Could there have been more sinister motivations from China? Absolutely. I don't think that's crazy. And Taylor, you actually mentioned the other day, one of the quotes that gets tossed around a lot about this, which is they were from Taylor's favorite sweatshirt, Jurassic Park. They were so fixated on figuring out if they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. Do I have that right? Something like that, yes. Yeah. And there is an element here of it's hard to know what the motivations were. And you know what? I would also add in. I don't think we're really ever going to know the truth because of how much time has gone by. It's like any crime. It's like any crime. The longer time goes on, the more opportunity you give, especially when you're dealing with a lab in Wuhan, the more opportunity you give the people, the workers there, the government there, to go in, destroy evidence. The longer time goes on, the less chance there is of any truth or transparency coming out of this. That's just the way everything goes. Like, you got to secure the crime scene and work with it. And instead, what we did for two years is we took the word of China and said, like, yeah, they told us everything's fine. And then if you even questioned it like Trump did, you were accused of being xenophobic. You were accused of not liking Asian people, which had nothing to do with it. And then one of the things that cracked me up during COVID was then that at one point people forget this. The media was praising China's response to COVID. So China is responsible for this virus getting out and getting out into the entire world and millions of people dying. And then our media here, which they've never met. They've never met a regime that they won't run propaganda for. Like they, whether it's the mullahs in Iran or it's China, Xi Jinping, they will run any propaganda that serves to hurt Donald Trump. So then they start going on these networks and they're like, the numbers, what is China doing right that we're not doing here? The numbers we're getting from China. They've seen a steep decline in COVID. Oh, so now you're believing the numbers that China's giving you. You don't think that you should use any healthy skepticism. Maybe try to take some of that skepticism you use when Trump makes a joke and you start fact-checking a joke that Trump makes. Maybe use a little bit of that skepticism and transfer it over to China giving you numbers about COVID, a virus that started in China. Huh? Anyone want to try that? Just a little bit of curiosity. Just a little bit of skepticism. That's all I'm asking for. But they were pumping up China to say, look what a great job they're doing. Look at this. Why can't we be more like China? Dr. Anthony Fauci tell us, why is Trump not doing as good a job as China is with COVID? Is it because he's racist? Is it because he's a really bad person? And this was just, this is just how it went. This was just the norm.

Love the show, Grace, but quoting Jurassic Park, priceless. Trust me, you hang around with nerds enough. It starts to rub off on you. I'm not proud of the fact that I'm quoting Jurassic Park. But you know who you can blame? You can blame the guy who gets his Jurassic Park sweatshirt dry cleaned once a month. And that would be my producer. Do you want to defend yourself? Keep going with the anti-Italian discrimination. It just won't stop. Jim, you're up next on the Grace Curley show. Go ahead, Jim. Hi, Grace. Our grandson is one of those COVID kids, everybody talks about. He was in kindergarten when COVID blew up, and it spilled over into his time in first grade. So as a kindergartener, he's working from home, has to log in to a Zoom meeting on an iPad. I used to go there and help him every day because he didn't quite know how to handle that. The teachers in a room all by herself with a mask on, you know, talking to these kids that are all home on their tablets. And it was a very formative years with, you know, speech formation and particularly reading. And our grandson is way, way, way behind in his reading skills. The kid's smart. He's a math wizard. He does a bunch of other things great. But our daughter's had to hire a reading tutor for five years now. And he's going into the sixth grade, and he's only now testing it at the reading level for his grade level. And there are a lot of other kids in his school with the same situation. So there is something to that. absolutely i remember reading and i'll try to find it maybe maybe after the break a devastating story about a young kid who was full of curiosity a little rambunctious but very very with it you know and slowly through COVID and staying home and really having no one to look after him he lost all interest in participating in school and in learning things and I think the TV and the tablets like it all just compounded on itself and it created a massive problem I always quote my dad Because this stuck with me. He said to me during COVID, because all of us were at, well, my sister was in college, but she was pretty, it was her last year of college. But my dad said, if all of you had been young kids when this was happening, mom would have had the whole setup. She would have hired a tutor. She would have had the, you know, the computers. You would have been in the backyard running around. You would have been okay. If this had happened when I was a kid, because my dad grew up with, you know, he was financially, it was difficult for them. He said, if this had happened when I was a kid, there would have been none of that. We just, we wouldn't have done anything. He grew up in old colony. He said that would have been, we just wouldn't have had school. And the crazy thing is, I think what my dad told me was we would have gone out and played basketball because that's what they did a lot during busing. There was like an entire year where they just played street hockey. But I was thinking to saying to my dad, like, you wouldn't even be able to do that.

Because they were zip tie in the basketball hoops. So you would have been stuck inside a tiny apartment with your seven siblings because they decided that this is what's better for everyone's safety. Does anyone actually buy that that this was good for kids' safety or mental health? It's absurd. It's absurd. And I'm glad people are bringing that back up because what they did to young kids in this country is inexcusable and they should not get away with it. We'll be right back. If you had to pick a sport that would be absolutely perfect with respect to COVID's ability to infiltrate it and make it miserable, you would pick basketball. Watch the show live. Rumble.com slash the Grace Curley Show. This is the Grace Curley Show. Yeah, I found a story that I had been thinking of. It was from the New Yorker about this 12-year-old from East Baltimore, Shamar, who during COVID, he already had a tough upbringing. His mother struggled with drugs, and then during COVID, he just completely fell off everyone's radar. And I just want to read a little bit here. It says the biggest challenge was not technological. No one made sure that Shamar logged on to his daily class or completed the assignments that were piling up in his Google classroom account. His grandmother, who was in her 70s, is a steady presence. But she attended little school while growing up in a sharecropping family in South Carolina. She was also losing her eyesight. One day she explained to me the family struggles to assist Shamar. Though three or four of his older siblings lived in the house, too, they had jobs or attended vocational schools, and one of them had a baby to care for. Shamar's mother was often absent, and his great uncle, who also lived in the house, had dropped out of school in South Carolina around the age of eight and was illiterate. Shamar's teachers worried about him that had a hard time reaching him, given his mother's frequent changes of phone number. One time his English teacher drove to his house and visited with him on the small front porch. And later in the story, it talks about, says, the the the next afternoon he was alone in the living room the lights off the blinds drawn and the TV on he had stayed up very late the night before watching TV with his mother and it slept past noon missing the day's class for breakfast he had eaten some Nutella that I had brought the day before I asked what he would have for dinner assuming he would eat with his brother's family in fact they usually ate on their own upstairs Nutella he said and the reason I say this is because there were kids who they're only their only safe space. And I know the liberals love to use that term, but I'm using it seriously, with school and being around teachers and being around other kids. And we took that away from them. And we just left them there and said, they're resilient. They'll figure it out. And a lot of these kids never went back to school. Howie Carr is coming up next. Don't miss it. I'll talk to you all tomorrow. Yeah, but your scientist was so great with whether or not they could, they just stopped to think if they should.