Bonus: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jul 30 2026

So Anthony Fauci yesterday, skewered for all to see. Because, Clay, you know, there's invoking the fifth, as I know you were discussing yesterday, when everyone can understand why you would do it. Well, you already have a pardon for everything in the past. Why can't you just speak honestly about these things? And it's because all of Anthony Fauci's past history now exposed via these. missives that he wrote himself, these love letters that he wrote on a government server, which can I also just say, Clay, So dumb. Yes. That is the other part of this that I know you were hitting on yesterday, a lot of all things Anthony Fauci. The fact that he thought, I'm just going to write about how handsome I am and how much Julia John Roberts just had a twinkle in her eye when I was telling her about mitigation measures. This guy. Truly delusional. And now I have to say the mockery that any person can see as a result of all this, this is what is needed because they were going to hold out on all of this and say, oh, but the science is still with Anthony Fauci. You know, Clay, the defense in recent years had been, it was a fog of war situation. It was. There's no fog of war when you're writing about how you're the most famous person in the world while you're telling everybody if they hug grandma, you're going to kill her. You know what I mean? There's no fog of war defense there. The whole process, I do think we've talked a lot about how history is going to handle COVID. I think Anthony Fauci on some level is starting to realize, oh, wait, I'm going to be the bad guy of this story. You know, like you always have that question. Do the villains of history totally understand that they'll be the villains of history? Because one of the great, you know, sort of cliches of history is that the winners write history. So we don't really know. I mean, there's probably a lot of good guys that end up losing. Bad guys write them. They're cast differently. I mean, Shakespeare is a great example of this in the way that his history. plays defined what we think oftentimes about English kings, Scottish kings, all these different things. But really, when you look at this, I felt like there was a little bit of a realization behind Anthony Fauci's stony, indignant, constant recitation 111 times of his Fifth Amendment. I felt like Buck. Part of him was starting to recognize, oh, wait a minute, I'm going to be the bad guy. And he's 85 years old. And let's say he lives 15 more years. You and I, hopefully, and many of our listeners are going to live long enough for the history of COVID to start to be written. And I think the idea that Anthony Fauci's diary indicated was that he believed he was going to be the hero. I think he's starting to recognize, wait, I'm going to be the villain.

And this is not going to be some story of incredible success that I was the father of. Instead, I'm going to be the guy who got paddle boarders arrested on the ocean that people can't believe is real in the decades to come. Isn't it in Batman, the Dark Night rises when he says, die a hero or live long enough to see yourself the villain? Yeah. Anthony Fauci is seeing himself the villain. And I really think that the only way that this could have broken through as it did yesterday in that hearing was the fact that you cannot explain. They can argue the science all day. They can argue whose decision everything was and everything else. You know, Clay, if you're the four-star general during a war, and, you know, you're, like, having an affair with a subordinate, and you're writing things about how, you know, you want to be on CNN, and it's apparent that you're not showing up for, like, funerals of your soldiers. There's no excuse for that. I understand this is different. It's not military, but there is a similar sense of you were the captain of the ship here, the four-star general in this metaphor. And you were really more concerned, at the peak, at the worst of COVID, you were obsessed with how much attention you were getting. And you wrote it down. And there's no debate about it. So Anthony Fauci as a megalomaniac is no longer a point of argument. And that takes it even further than just he got some stuff wrong. Because you know what they were saying the whole time was. He did his best. Yes. He did his best based on, and we knew that was a lie. You knew it. I knew it. We've been talking about this for years. But this actually was the Achilles heel for him. Oh, no, he really was obsessed with himself. And no one can argue that anymore. 100%. I also think the other thing that the diary reflects Buck is he can't claim he wasn't the decider. All of life comes down to. You have experienced it no matter what you do. Buck, you had to talk about what the rules are of a condo board. Anybody out there that's tried to get something built and you've had to go through that process. The question of who's the decider is ultimately the thing that matters most, right? There's lots of any big company has 168 vice presidents of something. that really can't do much, and ultimately it lands on the CEO's desk. Remember, Harry Truman had the great memorable. The buck stops here, and on the other side, I think it said, I'm from Missouri or something like that. The president is the ultimate decider. In this situation, I think with Anthony Fauci's diary, what you see is he was actually the ultimate decider. And all the people out there that are concerned about democracy and everything else,

So many people that are elected decided that a random employee inside of our government who was taxpayer funded would decide multi-trillion dollar outcomes when it came to state level elections and, sorry, to national decisions. Anthony Fauci was the decider. He bragged about New York and California shutting down because of his private conversations. Here's another thing if you want a positive buck. Anthony Fauci did allow Ron DeSantis to become the most successful governor of the COVID era. And I sent out a tweet about this. And I kind of talked, we had him on yesterday. But Buck, you are a great example of this. I'm in Florida right now doing the show. Think about what would have happened in 2018 if Andrew Gillum, gay prostitute sleeping with drug addicted felon. I believe he's a felon. If he's not, he's been charged with felon, east of my understanding. Andrew Gillum had been elected in 2018. Buck, he would have shut down Florida, just like New York and California. And you can say, well, Georgia and Brian Kemp and maybe Tennessee and Bill Lee and Greg Abbott in Texas. Maybe they would have stood. Maybe. Or maybe without Ron DeSantis taking the slings and arrows of refusing to shut down a big populated state, maybe, maybe Anthony Fauci would have been even more successful. And so ultimately, Florida reaped the benefits. And I think Ron DeSantis's tenure in office will redound throughout. the COVID era as the way that we should have responded to COVID. And Anthony Fauci is going to be the great villain. So in many ways, Ron DeSantis and also on a smaller level, people like you and me who found a big audience by just being sane in a time when everybody else lost their minds. Anthony Fauci is going to be the great villain of COVID. I think increasingly you can see the Ron DeSantis is of the world, the Brian Kemp's, the Bill Lees, the Greg Abbott's to a certain extent, red state governors who said no, they're going to continue. And I mean, populated red state governors because a lot of red state governors in Western states, they don't have the same huge collection of population in terms of everybody being in a dense area like bigger states would. I think you can start to see the first draft of history and the impact that all of this is going to have. And Anthony Fauci is not going to come off well. It took a long time, but we did get some Anthony Fauci accountability, at least on the public record. And I really appreciate that Rand Paul stayed on this as long as he did and refused to let this go because, yeah, we could find the data. We can find all these different things. Finding out about what a megalomaniac and what a narcissistic fool during a time of extreme suffering for the country, Anthony Fauci was. That is, it's unforgivable, and it's also.

not something that can be dismissed. They can dismiss all the, they can dismiss, oh, no one knew it was hard. We tried. We tried. No, no, no. And I'm not even getting into the fact that he knew that it wasn't as deadly. And I mean, there's a whole bunch of things. Yeah. That also came out from this. So he lied about everything. They're not going to accept that he lied about everything. They're going to say, oh, it was tough. He's making judgment calls. The fact that he. is gushing about the celebrities who, why does he have time to talk to celebrities when he's the most important? That's one of the things I wonder. He'd like to think that this guy is, you know, in the office until 2 o'clock in the morning, calling every, every, you know, major hospital system and getting the latest data. He's doing celebrity zooms. And also, why is it the celebrities have access to the top doctor? There's all these things you can talk about this. So I thought it was, I thought it was great. that this information came out. I would just point out we invited Dr. Anthony Fauci on the program for years. He never had time for us, but somehow he could always manage to take the phone call from Bet Midler or Julia John Roberts. Here's something that I would ask, star this, write it down, use it if you still are hearing people in your life defend Anthony Fauci. Buck, to me, this really kind of sums it up. Joe Biden gave him a 10-year pardon. A 10-year pardon. from basically 2014 all the way through, what, January of 25, right? When Biden left office, 10 plus years, everything that Anthony Fauci did is protected, even though we know that he committed, I think, a lot of crimes during that time, lied about him, all those things, okay? He had a 10-year pardon. And he still needed to invoke the Fifth Amendment 111 times while testifying in front of Congress. Just a simple question for everybody out there. Has anyone ever heard of someone who is completely innocent of all crimes that needs a 10-year pardon? And then as if that were not enough, also needs to invoke his Fifth Amendment rights 111 times. The 10-year pardon by itself was not enough. This guy is guilty as sin. Anthony Fauci, by the way, may, according to Senator Rand Paul, not entirely be protected from accountability. This is cut one. Listen. We will vote to hold him in contempt of Congress. That is a felony, and he can be prosecuted. We can't prosecute him, but we refer him to the Department of Justice. So there is a question, can you plead the Fifth Amendment when you've been pardoned? If you've already been granted immunity, how can you be seeking immunity from self-implementation if you've already been granted immunity? So at the very end, I ask him the very specific question, within the parameters of your pardon, this is a question within the parameters of your pardon, did you destroy records? to answer that. So a court will have to decide. The Department of Justice has to be convinced to take the case. And then the court will have to decide, does his Fifth Amendment privilege apply when he has a pardon? This has been debated across the internet, across the country, and we're going to fight out an answer.

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Yeah, I mean, this is very timely right now. The Big Ten is meeting right now or soon we'll be meeting about this, the SEC. They have a call with their presence later on this afternoon. I was on the phone with Tony Petiti, the commissioner of the Big Ten, late last night and with Greg Sankey this morning. You know, we want to have their support. I mean, we've worked really hard, I think, to build a coalition, not just with those two conferences, but with the, you know, the Big 12 and the ACC and these conferences. But beyond that, too, there's a lot in here for the student athletes, and a lot has gone into this thing to try to address all the major issues, Clay, that you and I have talked about before. You've got this. You got these eligibility issues. You've got the governance issue. You've got the one-time transfer. All those sorts of things need to get taken care of the ability to pool media rights if they want to, making sure that's purely voluntary and never forced. That was a big part of... what these negotiations have been about. So I would say today is a very important day because in order for us to do this next week, which a very important week, theoretically, it could be one of the last weeks we're up here. I don't know. I mean, we could stay into August. I support that. But next week's a very important week. And if that's the case, we got to get it kind of teed up today. And so these meetings are really important and why these conversations have been very timely and intense. Okay. I'll follow up on. I'll follow up on that. I don't want to get you into Petiti or Sanky private conversations, but in general, are you optimistic that you're going to be able to get their sign on at this point? I know you still got to wait on the meetings, but how would you assess your optimism level to right now at this exact moment? This is very much like real time. I've been hopeful all along. I think that this is, look, there are things in this with something that this is this complex and, you know, literally impacts, you know, 500,000 student athletes and all these institutions that people love and root for and all these kind of issues at play. This bill is an effort to try to reach a compromise of all the various and competing positions on it. So it's not perfect. Like there's things in here that I wish were a little bit different. And I'm sure that the conferences, the smaller conferences, the bigger conferences, the same thing. But I do think it's at a place right now where we need to move because it's not going to get any better. And another year or two of this madness we see right now is just not sustainable. Even the schools that are choosing to compete. and have rosters that are 55 or 60 million for football alone, which even though there's a cap of 20 and a half million, they will freely admit to you that this is not a good situation. The constant movement's not good for graduation rates if you're transferring four or five times. So I think we need to provide some stability. And I think this bill, as it stands not right now, is the best effort to do it. So I am hopeful, but we're going to find out real soon in the next few hours.

Senator Schmidt, appreciate you being with us. I wanted to move our attention, if I could, do another aspect of the Senate, and that has to do with the Judiciary Committee postponing a scheduled vote to advance Todd Blanche's nomination. So we know there are a couple of Republican senators. John Cornyn and Thom Tillis, who are, let's just say, iffy at this stage of the game, what do you think is going to happen here? And what are those two guys thinking? Well, they're both on the Judiciary Committee, so am I. And, you know, they've raised each one of them kind of a separate issue. I think Thom Tillis wants Todd Blanche to... meet with some of the victims, the Epstein victims. I think that was his sort of his ask. And I think that's gone relatively well. I've not spoken directly with Tom about that, but I feel like that's moving along. John Cornyn has an issue with this. some of the legal matters that have been before the Department of Justice related to President Trump. And so, you know, I'm hopeful that they can work that out to the extent that it can be worked out. I think Todd is eminently qualified. Todd Blanche is eminently qualified. He's done a very good job, I think, of refocusing the department from the Biden years to taking on violent crime and you look at this anti-fraud. effort that they have across the country, Minneapolis and California. Those are really important things for the Department of Justice to be focused on and have an Attorney General who's serious. So he's the acting AG. I mean, no matter what happens, he's going to remain the Attorney General, the acting Attorney General. I just think it would be an important thing for us to do to move them forward and have him confirmed in front of the full Senate. So I know, sorry, go ahead. No, I was just going to say building on that question with Buck, President Trump said, hey, if these guys won't get on board, we'll just wait. You probably know this. I don't know the answer off the top of my head. Let's say that the nomination doesn't get confirmed and we wait for the election and then, God forbid, we end up in a situation where Democrats take back control of the Senate. Getting anyone confirmed then, as you know, becomes very, very difficult. How long could Todd Blanche serve as acting attorney general? Is there a limit on that? How would that play out? Well, according to recent precedent, I'm going to blank on the cabinet member that Biden had that served out as acting throughout the term. I mean, he can basically be the acting attorney general, I think, for almost all of the remaining Trump term. But I think, you know, it's always better to have a, you know, a position like that confirmed by the United States Senate. I think that's an important thing for us to do because we're in that personnel business. And he's eminently qualified. No one.

No one disputes that. I think, you know, a couple of these issues that senators are addressing are kind of one-offs from that, not related to his qualifications. And my hope is that they can figure all that out. And we can move forward on Todd Blanche next week. As I mentioned, next week's a very important week because September guys is going to be, I think it's going to be very messy. The Democrats want to shut the government down. That is on September 30th. I think they view it as a political. effort for them to shut it down in October. Is this going to be for open border senator? They're going to want, you know, no more ice. No, I don't know what it's going to be yet. Yeah. Oh, okay. I mean, I'm guessing. It may be the whole thing. It may be the whole thing. It may be all of government. It may be TSA again. It may, you know, I don't know what it's going to be, but I think it's going to be something. I just, that's just sort of how I see it. Some people are more optimistic, but I've seen what the Democrats, the game plan is. they're obstructionists and they want chaos and they think chaos helps them and I hope the American people view it differently but we got to do everything we can to make sure that doesn't happen by September 30th I know if you're not from New York City maybe Missouri doesn't think of itself as like right next door to Michigan but I do because I'm from New York What do you think about the Michigan? What do you think about the Michigan? Hey, you're a flyover guy? Come on. I mean, you guys are close enough, right? You probably have college teams that travel to play each other. Hundreds of miles, hundreds of miles away. But yes. That is a perfect. That's a perfect lead-in for a New York City guy, Senator Smith. Hey, at least I'm self-aware. At least I'm self-aware about it. So, Michigan Senate race super important. Main Senate race, super important. Can you just weigh in on how you feel about Republicans holding the majority and what do you think the key issues are going to be in some of those places? I see now why you did. There's some symmetry. They're all states that start with M. There you go. So I feel pretty good about the Senate, the map. Susan Collins, I mean, they had the Graham Platner experiment that totally, you know, was as a disaster as him in a porta potty, I suppose. So that's gone. I think she's much better positioned now than where things were a month and a half or so ago. I mean, if they elect this, the guy who, the El-Sayed guy is in the lead. in Michigan, that is very much in play where a year ago, I don't think a lot of people would have thought we were going to have a chance to be competitive and maybe win Michigan. So I do think that is probably by way of contrast for us, these radical sort of DSA members, is good for us electorally. I think it's terrible for the country that the Democrats are actually electing these people to be their nominees in a general election, you know, because eventually these people are going to start winning general elections and it won't be limited to. you know, New York, where you're from, right, where the craziness and the hammer and sickle wave we saw a month ago. So I do think it improves our chances if that person's the nominee, but I don't think it's good for the country. I think we win Maine. New Hampshire's in play for us, which is good. North Carolina is going to be tough, and Michigan could be in play as well. Ohio, I think we're going to be fine in Ohio. Sherrod Brown is kind of a retread career politician, and John Houston should be okay there.

I know that you as Attorney General of Missouri helped to hold Anthony Fauci and the Biden administration more accountable than almost any Attorney General did in the country. I'm curious what you thought of Anthony Fauci taking Fifth Amendment 111 times during that hearing yesterday, how you would assess any legality of pursuing Anthony Fauci might look going forward in the wake of that. And just as a general context. I know it's been six years. Buck and I are still furious. Almost everybody out there listening to us right now is still furious over what left-wingers Anthony Fauci led did to us during that time. How would you assess where we are right now, what your thoughts were on that hearing and where we might go going forward? I'm with you guys. I think for me, when I was Attorney General at that time, it was a... It opened up my eyes to what the left was capable of if they had a little bit of power or just an excuse like that. Bulldozing, sand, you know, into these skate parks, police tape around playgrounds, forcing the masking of five-year-olds in school. It's why we sued the school districts. It's why we sued the Biden administration over the shot and all those sorts of things. I think we should never forget what that looked like and what that actually was. And Anthony Fauci was... the crown prince of all but with his candles and his bobbleheads, right? I think it's, it reminded me, we took, I took his deposition in the Missouri versus Biden lawsuit. He sat across the table as smug as could be, kind of like he was yesterday. He had a little, he had less to say yesterday because he was taking the Fifth Amendment, but I think in our deposition of him, he said, I don't recall like 170 times as well. So this guy who proclaimed to be the science and this all-knowing. you know, expert suddenly doesn't have a whole lot to say now because I think he knows he's been exposed to some legal jeopardy, regardless of the autopin pardon. There could be state issues out there. We're going to see, but this guy needs to be held accountable. This is what. abuse looks like. This is what the othering of our fellow countrymen was alike in that era. You couldn't question anything. The government was coming after you to censor you with big tech giants. This was Orwellian and it happened and we can't memory hole it. I'm with you like a normal person is still pissed about this thing. It should be. And Anthony Fauci was the face of it. So I hope there's. There's some accountability. We did our best in my time as AG. Hopefully some other AGs or other people can take up the charge here because it was just insulting to see him sit there yesterday and take the fifth on everything. Senator Schmidt, great stuff, sir. Thank you so much. All right, guys. Take care. The one part of your home where maintenance cannot be deferred is your roof because when that roof is leaking and you got problems. When your roof needs repair, you're on a clock. You need an honest inspection and a plan to fix that problem. Getting in touch with Erie Home should be your first move. Erie Home is a 50-year-old established company specializing and making sure the roof on your house is in excellent shape. They'll inspect your roof for any problems free of charge.

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everybody coming in is young and male. People like to say, oh, this is about trying to take care of families. There's no women. There's no children storming across the border there right now. It's all military age males. And I do think that's worth reiterating again and again. Overwhelmingly, we are not seeing families come. We're seeing young men come. When you look, Ryan, let's go into the current political environment. Tuesday. I was at a fundraiser last night for Jimmy Petronus. Awesome guy represents the Florida First District, basically right across the street. He was having a fundraiser doing great work. One of the guys there is working on the Michigan Senate campaign. My wife is from Michigan. This is one that we've talked about a lot on this program. We have followed it closely. They had their final debate. Tuesday is the primary. We will be talking about a great deal. Abdul El-Sayed is pulling away from Haley Stevens and appears to be a substantial favorite going into the primary on Tuesday. Do you buy if El-Sayed wins that Mike Rogers, who is going to be the Republican nominee, has a very good chance to win? How does that change your calculus? We'll dive into some other parts of the Senate, maybe a bit later in the conversation here. But tell me about Michigan with the primary Tuesday. Yeah, Haley Stevens' fake accent with a stick to him is not really getting what people thought that would. Here's the problem with Haley Stevens. It's not just polling early voting data is showing that white college educated and Muslim populations in the state are voting at much higher percentages than her bases, which is predominantly black areas in the Detroit area. Detroit's black areas have had substantially lower turnout, so are the rural areas. And the bigger problem with Democrats, period, is that the white working class people who would normally back Haley Stevens are all Republicans now. Mike Rogers is probably polling close to even against Abdul El-Sayed. He's a very extreme candidate. He's campaigning with the podcaster, Hasan Piker, who said that Americans deserve 9-11. However, it is a bad year for Republicans. It is a year in a state that is 50-50, but a little more for Trump than for Kamala Harris. It is a... It's looking like a D plus 7, D plus 8 year. The generic ballot is leaving the train and is really sticking to Democrats. So in an environment like that, even bad candidates can win. Even Francesca Hong, who is nuts beyond belief over in Wisconsin, she could probably win in an environment like this. It's just becoming, it's looking more and more like a wave for Democrat kind of year. So, Ryan, what are some of the variables between now and Election Day that you feel like you're going to be the primary determinants about whether Republicans hold the House and Republicans hold the Senate? What are some of the primary levers that, depending on which way they go, we're going to either be celebrating or having a rough one? Well, you know, we talked several weeks, several months ago at this point about the Iran War and oil prices and food prices. And we all said if it goes down by the end of summer, by midsummer,

will be republicans will be fine and when it started dipping during the negotiations republican numbers did substantially improve republicans are doing better than trump's doing and trumps in close to george w bush territory as far as polling goes however we're at the end of summer now well kids are going back to school in the south like next week and oil prices are back up and republic and democrats numbers are starting to surge at the end of the day it comes down to food prices prices, oil prices, and if the Iran war is wrapped up or not. I mean, it's really just that is the margin in a lot of states where it's going to matter. A lot of people defy political gravity, people like Susan Collins and others, Brian Fitzpatrick, a congressman in Pennsylvania. If you're looking at a D plus seven, D plus eight year, it's going to be almost impossible for any of these people who defy gravity, who win in Democratic states and districts to hold on. Okay, so let's pretend that it's going to be hard. Let's just say acknowledge Michigan, New Hampshire, Georgia, which are probably, Ryan, you can disagree with me if you would point to any other place, probably the only three states where Republicans could say, hey, we have a chance of taking a Democrat seat. That's where Democrats hold it right now. If none of those happen, right, we hope they do, but if none of those were to happen, then you flip back to, okay, what about... Texas, what about Iowa? What about, you know, you start to run through a bunch of these other Alaska, battleground states, Ohio. How confident are you that Republicans can get to at least 50? That would mean lose three. You can afford to lose three and still have the tie break. Four, you lose control of the Senate. What's going to happen there? How do you feel about Republican held seats? Well, the first you have Susan Collins, who is, who's defied gravity. You should have mentioned Maine, too. Yeah, no, no, it's okay. She's the one who's in a Democrat seat. She's very endangered, but she is extremely popular among independents and some Democratic women. She's in a tough battle this year, though. North Carolina is the other really, you know, important one former Governor Roy Cooper, is beating Michael Whatley, the Republican back candidate by nine points in the latest Fox News poll. The good thing Republicans, after those two states, which is one's a Democrat, one's a swing state, you get to states where Trump won all by double digits. So the ability. to win past those two states becomes harder and harder and harder for Democrats. That's the one key thing. When you mention Texas, if you look at where people are reserving cash reserves for ads, almost no, I think 700,000 went for Democrats in Texas and none went for Republicans in Texas. There's multiple reasons for this. I have a little insight information. You know, Republicans in the Senate allegedly really wanted John Cornyn to be the nominee. They did not want Ken Paxton be the nominee. And they basically told the Trump's team in the White House or in the political side saying, if he's the nominee, he's all your problem. We're not taking it. But the other problem is that Texas is 20 media markets. It's the biggest media market in the entire country. So to invest in Texas requires more money than any other states. And it's a hard lift for Democrats. That's why they would rather invest in Iowa. Ohio and Alaska and other places than invest in Texas. It's just really expensive. As far as Iowa, Ohio and Alaska goes, Ohio is a tough state, but John Eustace is a fairly unknown lieutenant governor relative to Sherrod Brown, who is the Democrat nominee, former senator. Iowa looks like it's...

turning more and more towards Republicans' favor. Alaska, the Democrat Mary Peltola former congressman who lost, she has an immense burn rate. She's raising a lot of money, but she's blowing through it very, very early. So I feel decently okay about Alaska, given how much money she's blowing early on. Ohio is the one that I would probably be looking at. But in that case, it would probably look like a 51-49 map for Republicans. Worst case scenario. Anything, Ryan, that you're looking at in terms of... Democrats sort of shifting focus right now to reposition themselves based on the latest or, you know, where are they going in heaviest and hardest thinking they actually have a real shot at a pickup? Well, I mean, Democrats are kind of playing it more safe than usual. The one thing that they're doing is very interesting is the Democratic nominees have dropped out of the Nebraska and Idaho Senate race. And what is happening is two independents who are saying, we don't know who we're going to caucus with. They're likely going to caucus with Democrats. They are the official nominees. And they're trying to run candidates in red states who don't have the stink of the Democratic brand on them to make these races competitive. I mean, over in Idaho, Senator Rish is an older man. is over 80 years old. He's running for his, I think, fourth term in the Senate. And, you know, there's a lot of questions over whether he should be running at this age. His poll numbers have tied in substantially in some polls, but who knows, it is Idaho. It is a very, very red state. That's their game plan, though, is to run these independent candidates in these very red states, hoping they can narrow it as long as there's no Democrat on the ballot. So we'll see if it plays out well. So, Ryan, you might have noticed from, well, one, we're friends and we just talk randomly, but also from my ex account and some recent discussions on the show. I am paying attention to the fact that, and I really, I'm ready to tell people right now, please do not email me and say, don't complain about the weather. The weather hasn't gotten 100% worse for the airlines in the last two years, but three hour plus delays have. And this is something we have told would be addressed and would get better. We were all mocking Pete Buttigieg for being MIA and things being rough. We were told they were going to be fixed. They have not been fixed even a little bit. And it's a big, annoying pain in the butt for millions of people who fly, especially if you fly on a regular basis. I had a super irritating flight story recently. I've heard a lot of other people. You had one that you wanted to share. But can you all, at the end of it, can you also tell us, I think it's fair to say that the Trump administration should focus and do more on this. But go ahead. I had to fly from New Orleans to Harrisburg, not an easy flight with one connecting thing. I land in Detroit, four-hour delay. The woman taking the tickets at the fourth hour gives us long rambling speech on the microphone and says, I'm sorry, y'all. I don't even know where I am right now. I'm so tired. I pray for me as I pray for you. Something you do not want to hear before you get on a plane. Get to Harrisburg. I'd fly the next day. I ended up driving across three different states.

to find a plane with a direct flight because my other flight was canceled. Overall, six flights, five states. 60 hours of insanity only for the last flight to be canceled and had to sleep over in a different hotel to fly out the next morning. It cost over $1,000 because being in such a small place at the time, the next available flight was like two days later. It was truly insane, incredibly frustrating. There was a bit of a weather problem, but I'm sorry, it's not that bad. There has been weather before, and American Airlines was shut down because of the IT problem. it would but the fact that you have to wait in the airport for four hours sometimes only to find out hey your flights canceled is infuriating just tell me ahead of time so i can make plans but there was not there's just lack of communication and understaffing that is insane in the airlines right now because airlines are banks who own planes they're not actually yes their credit card they're credit card companies with planes this is true uh this is why i mean i i i hate to hear that my wife gets on me sometimes i won't do connecting flights I will at this point because travel has gotten so frustrating. If you can't, I'm in Nashville, but I will drive to an airport to do a connecting flight because it feels like if you're relying on two flights to try to get you anywhere. It's basically a fool's errand at this point in time to even attempt. If I can't go there direct, I ain't going. And I feel like many of you out there feel that way too as well. Because at least if you're stuck in a city where you're trying to go to or a city that you live in, you can go back. If you're stuck in midpoint, you're just, I mean, you're totally handcuffed by everything. And in a small city, a lot of these are regional areas. If you're stuck in a regional area, you don't know anybody, places closed at 5, 6 o'clock. And that was like, San Harrisburg. Yeah, I was like, I have to drive. I end up to Washington. I drove to Virginia, Washington, and it ended up in Baltimore. I mean, it was insane trying to get a flight that I have to drive four hours to find a flight for two. I mean, but that's the state. And anyone who flies, I have to fly for work. I just have to. There's no other option. To put people in that kind of position on a regular basis. You know, it makes the quality of life just horrible for everybody. Let's get to the 30,000 or the 50,000 foot view. Is it the worst it's ever been in your opinion? Because I think that flying is now the worst that it has ever been in my lifetime, you know, with the exception of like some, you know, like post-9-11 or something, right? But, I mean, I think flying is now the worst. Yeah, two years ago, I used to fly 60, three, four years ago, 60 times a year. I would fly. I flew all the time. It is way significantly worse, and it is hours delays and cancellations, and no one communicates in everything with you. The communication part is what frustrates me the most. I'm sorry, you didn't just find out that your flights canceled 15 minutes before after waiting for hours. Well, what upsets me, too, is some people like to sort of be the great defenders of the airlines all the time.

As if I don't know that, yeah, of course, you can't fly in a thunderstorm. Like, I'm not talking about that. There are a lot of games, schedule, padding, chronic understaffing as a cost-cutting measure, you know, overselling of seats and all these things. These are choices the airlines make at the expensive passengers. People say, well, this is what the market will decide. Taxpayers have bailed out the airlines twice in the last 25 years, okay? They wouldn't even exist without the taxpayer, and they're heavily regulated by the federal government as it is. I feel like they're not allowed to just punish people. They shouldn't be allowed to just punish people all the time. But that's where I am. I don't know. I'm trying to get a movement going here, Ryan. I'm trying to find somebody who cares who's in charge. And as far as the market goes, this is not opening of a lemonade stand. It's not like any person can just open up an airline. Like, oh, it's so simple. No, it is an extremely expensive, heavily regulated industry. Very few people get to it. It's basically six companies that run the entire United States airline industry. Someone should make it a little easier because it is incredibly frustrating. Shout out to Southwest who bailed me out in the Baltimore situation. But it was a nightmare of just understand. Fly Southwest everywhere. Buck, here's, and Ryan, something that I think factors in here. You know why there isn't a lot of pressure because the wealthier you are, the less likely you fly commercial airlines. So oftentimes it's wealthy people with major connections who get major connections to the political universe. They get so frustrated over something that they hold political pressure. If you're super wealthy, you don't fly commercial. You're hopping on your private. The peasants. The peasants like us are just allowed to suffer out there, Ryan. But Congress does fly commercial. That's the crazy thing. Congressman almost always fly commercial and oftentimes fly economy, which is why I don't understand they don't do anything about this. Well, they do sometimes. There's also a lot of private jet travel for politicians as well that sometimes gets expensed through campaigns that, I mean, remember Bernie on his oligarch tour? He flew private jet, of course, as all anti-oligarchs do. All right, Ryan, we're having too much trouble with you. We're about to run into this commercial break, so we have to bounce. Go check out Ryan's amazing podcast. Everyone who listens loves it. It's a numbers game on the Klan Buck Network. Clay, what have you got for us? Thank you, Ryan. Tunnel the Towers Foundation, expanding its commitment to the families of America's heroes with the May and George Siller Scholarship Program, named in honor of Stephen and Frank Siller's parents. Program reflects the values of faith, service, education that shaped the Siller family. The scholarship supports eligible children pursuing undergraduate degrees, accredited trade school, certification programs, whether full or part-time, covered expenses, tuition, fees, books, supplies, campus, housing, scholarship. available to children from families served through Tunnel the Towers Gold Star, fallen first responder, and smart home programs. May and George believed education creates opportunity, builds character, helps young people move forward with purpose through this program, Tunnel the Towers, ensuring that every child's, every hero's child has the support they need to pursue their education, realize full potential, carry forward the values to help shape the families to learn more.

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I have three. One is 18. I don't think he would be. Right. I mean the one that, you know, 15. I know the boys. I know the boys. I'm specifically singling out my 15 year old. Pretty good athlete. Who said I had a cool haircut? Because that's my, he's my favorite right now. He's the one who said you had a cool haircut. That's right. There we go. He will turn 16 in September. He would be a dominant WNBA player. right now. He could step right into a starting lineup for a WNBA team. I'm telling you, we could, we could, the money and the ratings, you, me, we get Secretary Warhead Seth, we get Jesse Kelly to be our center just because I think he can dunk without jumping. It's preposterous. Didn't I see Jesse, by the way, saying, oh, my back's been hurting. What kind of leg exercises can I do? Am I making this up? And I think Matt Walsh said, just accept you're in your 60s and just get fat and lazy now, which is a very funny response. That may have been a thing. But also we get Dave Rubin in the mix. I'm trying to think of our start. You know, Ted Cruz, he kicks it around old school. Like if you've seen Ted would he play Jimmy Kimmel, Ted Cruz plays basketball the way that every Long Island rec coach tells you to play basketball, a lot of boxing out. You've got to throw some elbows to keep that space. And then, you know, sky hooks, baby hooks. He's definitely got some game. He smoked Jimmy Kimmel. Who else in our world is a bit of a baller? Look, I'm trying to think of just elite athletes that we think can translate into basketball. Sean Hannity, I know does a lot of like MMA stuff. Does he do bad? We got someone find out of Sean Hannity ever played ball. I bet Sean Hannity probably had some point guards skills back in the day. I'm going to give Sean some credit here on good jeans because he had two D1 college tennis player. a son and a daughter, which is a crazy level of success. I mean, it's hard to be D1. One, I mean, at national championship caliber program. So I think Sean would have had, you know, kind of a veteran basketball game back in the day. And I'm just going to say, I don't know if Dan Bongino ever played basketball. My guess is he probably did. He was a good athlete. I know that. But he could definitely be our enforcer. You know, like the guy in hockey who just stares down the guys that like. You know, make sure that no one throws a hard check on Gretzky. Dan Bongino would be there. He'd just be regulating in the paint, making sure that none of those WMBA ladies got too rough with us. Well, I would just say if we could also draft Pete Hegseth. I mean, the guy bench press is 315 now. I don't know if they're going to be drug testing. Just just tossing it out there. He wouldn't pass. He wouldn't pass if they did. performance enhancing, not for other drugs, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, correct. Testosterone is legal under a doctor's prescription. So I think he was on the program with us because I think we had fun when he had a book come out. He played at Princeton back in the day. And I believe he said that he would take Angel Reese head to head one on one. So I think Pete Hegseth could be a 2010 guy for us. Like I think he could be like a linchpin on the team.

You know, we set screen. Yeah, I think he's a right-wing media franchise player. I will tell you, I've seen, I haven't played with him because my knees hurt. But Dave Rubin's got some game. He would be, he would be solid. He's like, he's like a good two guard, you know. He's got the shooting guard skills. So we get him in the mix. Getting to play with the smaller basketball. Ben Shapiro coach, we bring Ben in to do some strategy. You know, he'd be good with the board and strategizing. I don't think people is going to be his thing necessarily, but I think strategy he'd be excellent. I, that is really fun. I did Ben's show today. I should have asked him if he thought he could, if he thought he could to lead us to victory. I will say, building on this, we were talking about the WMBA, the Seattle situation. Buck, the dumbest thing that I have ever seen a sports league do on social media. Last night, I'm getting ready for bed. And as one does, I'm on my phone scrolling, checking to see what the news is, bombing Iran. What's the latest on that? Let me do some prep for the show. And I see a video. of Angel Reese and Paige Buckers. I think that's how you pronounce her name. I'm not great. To be fair, Buckers, that's right, right? And we got producer Greg, who's a big Yukon, Beckers, sorry. Paige Beckers. I always get that wrong. I don't know why you have the you in there. It's an unnecessary vowel. So she is on this video with Angel Reese, Buck. The WNBA posted the two of them betting $400 on a basketball game. The two sides are competing. To put this into context, any NFL player who bets on their team is automatically suspended now for two years without pay. The WNBA posted a video of them betting. and then came out while we were on the air and said, according to front office sports, that the video of them betting on their game was, quote, intended to be lighthearted. We recognized that the post missed the mark and removed it shortly after it was published and addressed the matter internally. So if you're an NFL player, you miss two years if you bet on your team. You do not get played. You lose your contract. If you are a WNBA player and they post you on video betting for the game outcome, two players, they just say, hey, it was supposed to be lighthearted and we're going to address it internally. By the way, I totally, and I think anyone would understand. why betting against your team is is fraud and wrong and unethical if you're on the if you're on the team right that's why it's your team i totally understand that

I'm a little fuzzier on why betting your team is going to win when you're on a team is on a I guess it's just they want to keep it clean and not have people betting and they're just, they think betting is a mess. But the biggest takeaway is when you don't bet, right? So Pete Rose back in the day would bet on his team to win. Right. But when you're not betting on your team to win, you're also default sending the message. from people who are involved in the betting landscape, oh, this guy doesn't like the matchup at all going forward. So when you bet on your team, I guess if you're to your point, if you bet on your team every game to win, then it would be less of an issue, right? Other than if you're on an awful team, you could end up hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in debt, which might eventually lead to you. betting against your team to try to get back into good graces i think just i do think blanket prohibitions unless you're an individual boxer or something like that um maybe on an individual athlete basis uh but again telling other people This has been a huge investigation. I just, I can't believe the WNBA was dumb enough to post this. And I can't believe their explanation is, ha, ha, it's a joke. It's supposed to be lighthearted. There's a joke. That's what they're saying. We were just kidding. That's what they're saying. We're just kidding. Think about, this opens up a lot of territory. You know what I mean? You could be like, hey, officer. Was I really going 120 miles an hour? This $300 that I'm handing you says I wasn't. Just kidding. It's like, does that work? That was supposed to be lighthearted. Right. All the cops listening are like, don't try the lighthearted defense when you try to slip me cash, buddy. You're going to prison. Like, you know what I'm saying? No, yeah. I was just joking about the bride. Yeah. That's a tough one. I think that's a tough one, too. I think I'm just kidding about the bribe. If they refuse the bribe, I don't think you're going to get very far with that. Is it the Nelly song where he's like, so you're going to do it? Just kidding. There's a line where he's like, you know, do you want to do that? Just kidding. Unless you do, in which case I'm all about it, right? Like there's a great line in there. You're more than Nelly, you're more than Nelly expert on this show than I am. I can't say. You saw Nelly performance recently. I did. Did he have like a gut and new balance sneakers on? I mean, how old is he now? Nelly looks the exact same now as he did in 2001. I don't know what the guy is doing for his living choices, but, you know, I don't know what the absolute apex of Nellie's popularity, probably about 2001, right? Like when every song it felt like was a Nelly hit. He looks and sounds the execs, and I, my wife and I, we were up the night before the White House correspondence dinner. He was performing at the executive branch for some of our friends at 1789 Capitol. They had gotten him schedule. We went with having an awesome time. And my wife said, my God, I mean, like this is just like being back in 2001. Like this, like he looks and feels like as if nothing has changed at all.

We were just talking Nellie. We got way, we got way off. We're weaving. We're going rogue here. What were we talking about before? Oh, you were discussing the betting thing. Yes. Which was of high interest. Do you want to, would you like to do some talkbacks here with me, sir? Because we have a lot that I believe we have not yet got. Well, they're mostly Anthony Fauci talkbacks from before. I want to get some from today. Oh, Jesse's producer, Jesse Kelly's producer. says that he did in fact play some basketball. By the way, Jesse, who is, I believe, 6-9, for those you wonder why we call him Paul Bunyan, Chewbacca, Sasquatch, all he is. He may be the tallest radio host in America. Like I think that's unlikely, oh, maybe there's like a former NBA player who does radio who's taller than him, but even for the NBA, 6-9 is pretty tall. I'm sure that he was recruited by the high school. The high school basketball coach probably saw him. bump his head on the ceiling going into the cafeteria and was like, hey, buddy, you're playing basketball this. This is all very funny. Do we have a talk back on that? Is that what you were setting up or for Jesse's producer? Because the team, to their credit, has done an immediate deep dive into Nelly's lyrics. Producer Allie, can you come up? You, I think, have nailed it that I was referring to the great hit Hot in here. Do you have the lyrics that I was trying to hit? I don't know if I have the lyrics, but AI said that was in reference to I'm just kidding like Jason, which is a playful reference to the NBA player Jason Kidd. Yes, but yes, I will find out that lyric. Do we want to do talkbacks? You want me to do a read? We'll do all the talkbacks when we come back. Maybe the read and then go into talkbacks. I like the read and then I really want to dive into these talkbacks and let them breathe a little. You don't even put them in the decanter. Let the aromas waft a bit, you know, find the undertones of vanilla and crisp apple in our... Yeah, you get what I'm saying. We will. Great talkbacks when we return. Let me tell you something. How many of you out there right now are juggling a bunch of different credit cards? Every month, you send in the minimum payment, balance barely moves. You got so much interest. Interest is, in fact, eating you alive. Doesn't have to be that way. Trust me on this. Go to Perfect 10 mortgage. And you may be able to use the equity you've already built in your home. Pay off all those high interest credit cards and personal loans roll everything into one easy monthly payment. One payment, one due date, a whole lot less stress. Perfect 10 mortgage shares your values. They'll shoot you straight and you can apply. in about 10 minutes. That's why it's Perfect 10 mortgage. You give them 10 minutes, and in 10 days or less, they can be closing a brand new mortgage with you. Hundreds of you have already gone into the website, have already started the process of getting a brand new mortgage through Perfect 10. Mortgage, these guys do amazing work. They can take care of you. Give them 10 minutes and let them help put your financial house in order.

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