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of our nation's capital, Washington, D.C., backed by the trusted voices of Team Fox, a clear, fresh voice cutting through the noise to tell the truth. It's Guy Benson with Guy Benson. Welcome to Guy Benson with Christine, Dylan, and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley. Honor to fill in today for Guy and joining us right up front as we begin today's program, a busy news day, one of President Trump's favorite elected officials in the entire country. He is Bruce Blakeman. He is the Nassau County Executive and the Republican nominee for governor of the state of New York. Bruce, it is a pleasure to welcome you to the program. Well, it's my honor, Harry. Thank you so much for having me. And I want all of our listeners now, I'm just meeting Bruce. It's the first time we've heard each other's voices, but I've known Bruce's brother, the great Brad Bruce Blakeman, for a long, long time. So I feel like I know you, Bruce, for a long time because I've talked to your brother about you. I've watched your career. And I met what I said about that. I know President Trump is coming in to your area to be with you, to campaign. He's... unconditionally endorsed you. And many people believe that you are running against the worst governor in America. I'd be shocked if you don't feel that way. And I'll tell you what, I'll trip over my own tongue when I say that because there's a lot of competition here. Gavin Newsom, Tim Walz, J.B. Pritzker, just to name a few. But I think you're running against the worst of them all. Well, Harry, you're absolutely right. Kathy Hochul is the worst governor in America. We are the most over-taxed state in the United States of America. We're the most over-regulated state. That's why thousands of businesses taking hundreds of thousands of jobs have left New York. Our electric bills are 70% higher than the national average. 70% higher. I mean, we are in a death spiral, and she's also the most... pro-criminal governor in the United States of America. She gets straight Fs on a report card, and she is the worst governor in America. And that's why independent voters are joining Republicans and common sense Democrats, and they are supporting my candidacy. And that's why January 1st, there will be a new governor in the state of New York. You're listening to Bruce Blakeman, Nassau County Executive, the Republican nominee for Governor of New York. Now, I went into the tabulars. You know, the top line stuff is interesting and all that, you know, who's winning, and it's real close. It's a margin of error race, which I think you should be thrilled about. But I went into the tabulars. You are winning right now with New Yorkers, with independence. And here's another... very, very tough thing for the incumbent to overcome. This is very bad news for Governor Kathy Hochul. She's at 61% of New Yorkers saying she does not deserve to be reelected. So when you take a poll that is margin of error, so you're right there in the horse race, you're winning comfortably. I think it was 10 points, if I'm not mistaken, with independence.

And I do think there are disaffected Democrats that just aren't willing to go along with these Democrats, Socialists of America and all this stuff that we say, I mean, look at today, you're dealing with a governor and an attorney general that are saying you, Bruce Blakeman, cannot, your county of Nassau, you cannot cooperate with ICE. In other words, you cannot cooperate with the police. Who says that? Who does that? Well, Kathy Hochul does and Letitia James does. Let me tell you something, Harry. I had the most comprehensive agreement with ICE in the United States. And as a result, in one year, we removed from my county 2,000 illegal migrants with criminal records ranging from attempted murder, rape, robbery, burglary, drug dealing, gang activity, 2,000. And you know how we did it? We did it by working with ICE, and we didn't raid one business, one school, one church, one daycare center. And it went completely smooth with no incidents whatsoever. And Kathy Hochul, if she's listening, which I doubt she would ever listen to your show because it doesn't match her philosophy. But if Kathy Hochul were listening, what I would say to her is, Kathy, where do you want me to put those 2,000 criminals? What community do you want to destroy? Instead of denigrating me, my police department, my sheriff's department, and our federal partners' eyes, you should be thanking us for removing these criminals from our communities. Bruce, if they sign a law, if they write with their erasable ink, a policy ordering counties and municipalities to not cooperate with ICE, do you have to follow something like that? Well, right now, we are exploring it with our lawyers. Obviously, we want to fight it. We have talked to ICE's lawyers. We have talked to other counties in New York State that have agreements with ICE. People are up in arms. And this just demonstrates, again, that Kathy Hochul puts criminals before victims. She puts criminals before neighborhoods. Every major initiative from cashless bail to the HALT Act to raise the age has been promulgated by Kathy Hochul to make our communities less safe and make it easier for criminals to prey on our neighborhoods. I mean, it's a disgrace, and I'll correct it when I become governor. It is Bruce Blakeman visiting on Guy Benson, the Republican nominee for governor of the great state of New York. if your governor will be even greater. I can only imagine how it would be an infusion of energy, an infusion of positivity in terms of the change in philosophy of governance. I mean, look at this hideous luxury tax. Now imagine you're one of those 950,000 or 960,000 people that just got doxed.

by Zonron Zohran Mamdani because they decided to publish your name, your exact address, and other personal details after already an insurance executive got killed because somebody knew exactly where he was going to be and who he was and all of that. I thought that was hideous on its face to docks people like that. Put them in danger with what's been going on. I don't think it's a stretch that you have to think that way. And what? The fact that you own a $5 million property, they think they have the right to sock you with some 10 days notice and some massive tax increase. What are your thoughts about that, Bruce? Well, first of all, when high net worth individuals leave, as they have New York, they took $11 billion in tax revenue with them. And who else did they hurt? The middle class, because the middle class has to pick up that gap. And they have to pay the difference when high-net worth individuals leave. Plus, it hurts the carpet, the electrician, the plumber, the waiter, the waitress, the bartender, the dog walker, the cleaning service. I mean, it has a deleterious effect on the middle class, and that's exactly what Zohran Mamdani and Kathy Hochul are doing. They're driving high-net-worth individuals out of our state. They're finding refuge in places like Texas, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Arizona. And as a result, they're not the ones that get hurt because they got the money to move. Who gets hurt? The real estate industry. All of these people that are in business that depend on these high net worth individuals. So it really hurts the middle class the most. And the outing of people just because they have money is a disgrace. Zohran Mamdani has anti-American values. He hates capitalism. He talks about rugged individualism as if it's a bad thing. He touts collectivism, which is a code word for communism. This is a really bad guy. And Kathy Hochul is now Comrade Kathy. She walks lockstep with him and everything that he does because he's running the Democratic Party now. in the state of New York, and she is subservient to him. And that's why, Harry, people are miserable in New York State, and that's why her disapprovals are so high. And now they want me to come in and be the pilot that gets us out of the death spiral. And I know how to do that. I have the safest county in America, according to U.S. News & World Report. I haven't raised taxes in four years. I've had four budget surpluses. and seven bond upgrades, which is unprecedented. My county is larger than eight states and population. I know how to run a big organization. And by the way, I will welcome business in because business creates jobs and economic prosperity. And if you got more money in your pocket, you get to make the choices on how you want to spend your money rather than the government. We are visiting with the highly regarded Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman. He is the Republican nominee for governor of the state of New York, and it could be the perfect storm. I think it is the perfect storm. The right candidate.

at the right time, with the right message. It's beyond now, mini-California. New York right now, moving companies, leading industry. People are just fleeing. Wealth flight is unbelievable, and I could not agree more. Some would call the law of unattended consequences. But whenever Democrats, socialist, communists, like Zohran Mamdani, put a line item and anticipate revenue, you ever notice, Bruce... They never realize the anticipated revenue because socialism has a 100% failure of a track record. That money will not happen because they have the brains and they have the financial means to avoid that luxury tax. They will avoid it by walking with their feet and flying in airplanes away. It's crazy what they're doing. Well, Harry, you're absolutely right. And here's this thing. The fact of the matter is that we don't have a revenue problem in New York State. We have a spending problem. Our budget in New York State is twice out of Florida, and they have 4 million more people. And by the way, I spoke to Ron DeSantis two months ago. We sat together at a function, and he was saying to me, he says, Bruce... I can't wait to your governor. In one respect, and in another respect, I'm going to miss out on all those people from New York who are moving to Florida. And I might even lose some if you're a governor. He said because every New Yorker that comes down there is happy because they were miserable in New York. I want to make people happy in New York. Put New Yorkers first. And, Harry, think about this. Kathy Hochul has spent $8 billion of our taxpayer money on illegal migrants, free housing, free food, free transportation, or free cell phone. They get more than New Yorkers get. It's outrageous. So on day one, when I become governor, we are no longer a sanctuary state. I will take that money, cut taxes, and invest in New Yorkers, not on people who've been here for 15 minutes and come to New York and think they can get everything for free. Republican nominee for Governor Bruce Blakeman. The Nassau County Executive is our guest for today, Bruce, two-minute drill. Give your listeners, and you have many listeners right now in New York State listening to you. What would be the difference in terms of philosophy of governance? How would New York State be with you as governor? And you already know and we already know what it is like with Kathy Hochul. But what would be the difference between the two of you? Well, it's very simple. So first of all, I'll put New Yorkers first, make them happy because they're miserable now under Kathy Hochul. I'm going to cut your taxes. I can cut your energy bills in half by ending the green energy scam, the Kathy Hochul takes money out of your electric bill every single month. That's why our electric rates are 70% higher than the national average. I will make for safer communities.

And I will bring in business that will create really good jobs with good benefits and good pay so people have more money in their pockets so they're not living paycheck to paycheck. And they can afford not only the necessities of life, but some of the luxuries too, like maybe taking your kids on vacation or buying your daughter a prom dress without having to sweat it out. I'm going to restore common sense and good judgment and American values to New York State government. Bruce, 30 seconds to a hard break. You were blocked by Democrats from a New York City parade and you being able to speak because, quote, unquote, you represent Trump. Zohran Mamdani, I think it's more than 16,000 people as of a few hours ago, have signed a petition. They do not want him speaking. They don't want him attending the September 11th, 25th anniversary. Should he not go? Here's what I said. I said, if he goes, turn your back on him. That's the best way to protest him attending. Bruce, great to present you today. We'll speak again, I am sure. Thanks so much, Harry. You're welcome. Bruce Blakeman, candidate for governor of New York, Nassau County Executive, visiting right here on Guy Benson. We'll be right back. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Harry Hurley. Pop quiz. What's in your kids' lunchbox? At Whole Foods Market, they've already done the studying. Over 300 food ingredients are banned from their shelves, no hydrated fats in the peanut butter, and no high-fructose corn syrup in the cookies. And for sandwiches, there are no synthetic nitrates or nitrites in any of their deli meat, so you can pack lunchboxes with peace of mind. Get back to school ready at Whole Foods Market. Welcome to Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for Guy, and thank you, Guy, and Christine, the entire team for having me. It's been a great experience, as always. Well, no real surprise when we get to next week before you know it. You know how fast time is going by. Rand Paul has made it clear his Senate panel, which is the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee of the United States Senate. They will hold a vote next week holding Dr. Anthony Fauci in contempt. Rand Paul has confirmed that. What I thought was very interesting, Chad Pergram, the Fox News Channel, Washington correspondent, congressional correspondent to be precise, he is like a human encyclopedia. You always hear him say things like, it's all about the math. And it is. And that's why, for example, things that pass the house, because you need just a simple majority. And with the margins as close as they are, that's tough. But they're able to do it because they don't have a filibuster. The loyal opposition can't block.

the majority. And I think they really have to do something. I know there are many pure, good and good-intentioned senators who believe that the filibuster in the Senate is important for the minority, or you would absolutely just, you wouldn't count. They just could do like what the House does. You could just get steamrolled. But. There are a lot of things that the American people want that Democrats are blocking right now, like the Save America Act. So Chad Pergram said yesterday that the United States Senate has not found someone in contempt in something like 60 years, close to it, over 50 years, since like 1971. It looks like that streak is going to come. Joe DiMaggio's 56-game hitting streak came to a close. It looks like that one is going to come to a close. Because depending on which counter you believe, the number 111 has been much touted that Dr. Anthony Fauci answered by taking his fifth amendment of the Constitution privilege. Now, what's going to be interesting, he gave a statement. So there's going to have to be some kind of determination that once he gave a statement, did he waive his right of his Fifth Amendment privilege? Many reasonable, they're not over the top or partisan. Many reasonable scholars believe that you have to take the fifth entirely. You don't get away. with trashing the chairman of the committee and making your statement. And then, oh, by the way, when the questions come, say, I'm going to exercise my Fifth Amendment right. So it's going to be interesting how that is decided. And it's important that that be decided for going forward. The other thing that's going to have to be decided, was Anthony Fauci required to answer questions? Because he had the full preemptive pardoned by former President Biden. All of this. Very, very interesting. We're going to be right back. Don't go away. Jesse Arm is next. It's Guy Benson. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for MintMobil. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills. But it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Up front payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months, or $180 for $12.1 plan required, $15 per month equivalent. Taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes, slow when network is busy. See terms. Filling in for Guy Benson, here's Harry Hurley.

Why, thank you very much. Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley, an honor to fill in for Guy Benson today on a busy newsday. I'm a huge fan of quality pollsters. I'll tell you what I'm not a big fan of, and that is bad polling. When you look into the question methodology and how questions are raised, and did they, if you're polling two candidates, did half of the respondents hear the candidate of each party named first? What that means is not every respondent will hear each candidate, but what you're supposed to do in a quality poll, because if you've ever heard this before, and I do believe it's true. If you get column A, if you are fortunate enough to draw, if there's a drawing for it in your hometown or if you're running at a higher level, if you get column A, it's worth 10%. You have to remember, not everybody, you're a high information voter. A Guy Benson radio listener is a very high information voter, but there are very low information voters. in this country, that they just show up. And now they don't even have to show up because these ballots just come to you. And they don't even know. They don't even know who they're voting for. So you want that kind of integrity in polling. I'm a big fan of credible polling. I am an absolute antagonist of garbage polling. And there's a lot of garbage out there where they're just looking for a result and they want it, they want to push it a certain way. That's why thank God. Push polling is illegal now in America. Joining us now on Guy Benson Newsmaker Hotline is Jesse Arm, Vice President at the Manhattan Institute, and I was just talking about you behind your back, and a pollster, a good pollster, a credible poster, an honest pollster. Jesse, welcome to the program. It's great to be on with you, and thank you for the kind words. Well, it's true. You know this. It's very hard to find credible polling. And you know the trick. The trick is they get it wrong for an entire election to try to help out their favorite side. And then right before Election Day, the final poll, the absolute final poll, look at us. They will get closer because when it's over, they want to say how close they were. But there's a lot of bad polling that goes on out there. But when you know where to find intellectually honest, decent polling, the data, and I'm a big fan of the tabulars, I love to go in and see things that don't typically even get reported but can yield. tremendous information. Let me give an example. We just a little while ago spoke with the Republican candidate for governor of New York. He's basically in a statistical dead heat. But when you look at things like, does the governor, Kathy Hochul, deserve to be reelected? New York state voters, 61% say no. On his New York state on the right track, 57% say no.

So do you agree that, and if you don't agree, please correct me and I'll learn from you. But do you agree that things like that, they don't get reported as often because they report the horse race of who's winning? But aren't they important things to give you a window inside how people are actually feeling that are voters that will ultimately decide things? Your thoughts, Jesse? Well, I have to say you dropped out for me for one second there, so I'll respond in aggregate here and tell me afterwards if I missed anything important that you covered there. Look, I think that polling in general is definitely manipulated very often. We take our work at the Manhattan Institute, our approach to data on this front, very seriously. Look, I think the clearest evidence that we don't do push-polling is the fact that... We produce outcomes all of the time that don't confirm our priors. You can go look at all of our policy work and see sort of where we fall on the spectrum, and it's not the case that our position is always the popular one, and we're not afraid to point that out to the masses when it is the case. But in this instance, with some of our latest polling, I do think it is the case that the median voter is pining for... Something different, something that's not around any longer, at least on approach to welfare and welfare reform. We're 30 years out now from... the landmark Bill Clinton welfare reform package and the kind of, you know, common sense approach that Americans need support, and that's fine and well and good. But if they're going to get it from the taxpayer, they've got to work for it. And these are things that are borne out to be very popular from our latest data. And it's strange to see these things happening when in the Democratic Party, it appears that the ascendant force is... Socialism. And Bill, as you know, 30 years ago, rather Jesse, about Bill Clinton. That's why I said, Bill, about Bill Clinton. He worked with Newt Gingrich. He worked with Republicans. That's like a high crime today. You would never see Democrats working with Republicans. That Democrat president who wanted a second term, who famously triangulated, who worked with the Republican majority. which, as you know, they had not been in the majority in something like 40 years. So he knew they're in the majority. If he's going to get anything done, he's got to work with them. And he did. And you're right. In Bill Clinton's welfare, which was working with Republicans, there was a workfare component. That's like a criminal offense today for the Democrat Socialists of America. Jesse, do you poll the... the temperature of the American people with respect to the Democrats, socialists of America, because their agenda is so horrifically just crazy. I mean, they want to eliminate president, they want to eliminate the Senate, they want to mess with the Supreme Court, no police, no prisons, no ice, no, I mean, I could go on and on and on and on. A majority of the American people.

aren't ready to sign on to that level of crazy, are they? Yeah, well, much of the Democratic Socialist agenda, we tested that in this poll about abolition of police, prison, and borders. These are extremely unpopular things, okay? You know, I mean, getting rid of the police, that is only supported by a tiny, tiny fraction of voters. Ditto for prisons and borders. These people are... in a minority, within a minority, they're even a minority within very left-leaning voters. But what I will say, and it is a little bit more scary, something that we do have to reckon with, is that within the Democratic Party today, there's a large constituency that considers themselves to be socialist at this point. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's Socialism is not a scary or dirty word to these folks. Is, Jesse, is Abdul El-Sayed going to defeat Stevens in the Democrat primary in Michigan? Well, there's new polling out from Emerson today that suggests he's got a double-digit lead. Abdul El-Sayed, I think, is one of the scariest figures in American public life today. Makes no bones about the fact that he holds sympathies for Islamist terrorists. One in right in his backyard there is West Bloomfield, Michigan, which is my hometown, nearly rammed an explosive laden truck into a synagogue preschool with 140 kids inside and suggested that even to condemn it would be a risk. from his perspective. He also got out there in the aftermath of that and suggested that we don't hurt people, hurt people, that we've got to feel bad for this guy who saw some grievance happening thousands of miles from the American shores and decided that he needed to do something about it so he was going to kill a bunch of preschoolers. And we've got a set of candidate in Michigan who looks to be the odds on favorite to win on Tuesday, who thinks, okay, there's some sense behind that who can't full-throatedly condemn... Abject jihadi terrorism. Incredible. Deeply concerning. Jesse Arm, this was my favorite comment, and it was before this poll with him up by 15 points. He was getting scared. What do they say about mirrors in your car? Objects are closer than they appear. He was getting a little bit scared. So he came out and said, and this is so incredible, he said, I'm not a socialist. I'm a capitalist. I'm not kidding you, Jesse Arm. He said that. He's not a capitalist. I mean, look, these guys are smart politicians, okay? You can't ignore the fact that in both the Andrew Cuomo, Zohran Mamdani race, the Graham Platner versus the former governor there in Maine, Janet Mills.

And in this race in Michigan, between Abdul El-Sayed and Haley Stevens, we'd be hard-pressed not to admit the fact that the more capable communicator, the better retail politician in all three of those instances is the hardline progressive socialist. So democratic establishment, figure it out, figure out what you're for that they're against. Because if you don't want to get eaten alive from the inside out here, you're going to need to tell us affirmatively the American people what it is that you stand for. There's an appetite. There's people there. You know, the black vote in Michigan is, you know, high double digits, heavily in favor of the more moderate option here. So there's a base of support for the normies within Democratic politics, but they've got to get out there and they've got to send capable articulators to tell people what they are for and why they don't fully hate America as much as the hardline Islamo communists. We are visiting with Jesse Arm, Vice President at the Manhattan Institute, Polster. and really terrific guest. Now, the Obama Presidential Center, this is, I will call it an Obamination. It is an abomination that so many contractors have not been paid. And you know what that means. These are people that this puts them out of work. This can destroy their company and end their company. that they think it's okay to do this kind of thing. So I know that subcontractors have filed a whole new set of payment claims totaling near a million dollars in this latest iteration. What are your thoughts about that? Just incredible disrespect being shown. And if I'm not mistaken, Jesse, many of the contractors, minority contractors. Yeah, look, I don't think that anyone should claim Barack Obama personally sat in the account payable office and refused to write this contractor a check. The legal responsibility for that will have to be sorted out. But there's political symbolism here, and I think it's frankly devastating. This project was presented as a national model of progressive development, right? They've got to do the equitable contracting. They've got to do all the minority-owned businesses. They've got to do these. Union jobs and economic empowerment for Chicago's outside. And then this project opens and all the celebrities come through, Bono, Bruce Springsteen, John Legend, you name it. And then... What happens along the way is that some of these small businesses and tradesmen who actually built it, they don't get, they're still fighting to get paid. Now one of these subcontractors, this is what you're alluding to, has shut down and laid off something like 25, 30 union guys, okay? That captures the central failure of modern, progressive governance. You've got this enormous moral ambition at the beginning. You got weak managerial competence in the middle, and then you do a big... fancy, lavish celebration at the end, and Democrats have become very good at symbolically honoring working people and minority businesses, but far less interested in whether the institutions operating in their name actually deliver for those kinds of people. It's such a good point. You don't empower these small businesses by putting them in some press release. You empower them by running the project competently and paying them for their work, and I just have to leave you with this.

What if it were Elon Musk? What if it were some for-profit enterprise? You would never hear the end of it. Losing their mind, but when Barack Obama is involved, all is forgotten, forgiven, and he gets a free pass. That's 100% correct. Jesse Arn, Vice President of the Manhattan Institute visiting on Guy Benson. We know history, probably every living person, their entire lifetime. The party in power at the midterm election loses seats in the House of Representatives. And because the margin is so close, if passes prologue, then the Democrats are going to win the House. I want to point out a couple of things, and you have a lot more to offer than I do, but I want to put this into play. The redistricting, I believe, puts the Republicans in play. Without that, I would just say the Democrats take the House. I'm not ready to say by exactly how many. It would still be close, but it wouldn't be as razor thin as it is now, but it would be within 10, maybe 15 tops, something like that. Redistricting, I think, puts the Republicans back into it. However, the calculus of the Iran war, the price of a gallon of gasoline. That's the other thing throughout all of history. If you tell me the price of a gallon of gasoline, usually you can say. who's going to win that's in play right now the cost of food and everything else and of course other than september eleventh two thousand one with the november election right after that that is the only one that i can remember where the the model that i just described failed to occur are we looking at a democrat majority in the house Yeah, I mean, that's the operating assumption for everybody, right? Because of all the reasons you just raised, the fundamentals of this cycle suggest that Democrats are positioned to win. But we've got this weird subplot going on now. We're still in the middle of the summer. And that subplot is the fact that hard left, Islamist-adjacent, communist-smpathetic figures are the ascendant force within democratic politics. 30 seconds. Republicans are going to get this unique opportunity ahead of November to frame themselves as even though you don't like us, we're not them, we're not crazy. We are tethered to reality, and it may do them some good. They may be able to not get beat too badly. Could they hold, serve, and keep the majority because of this DSA? Everything's possible, especially because of how aggressive gerrymandering things have gotten. It's tight margins on both sides. The Senate and the House are still very much in play. Anyone who says otherwise is not being totally honest. But if you had to pick, though, Republicans win the Senate, Democrats win the House. Luckily, I don't have to pick. All right, I'll pick it for us. Jesse, great to visit with you. Good to be with you. Take care. Real pleasure. We'll be right back. This is Guy Benson. Miss a minute. Miss a lot. Guy Benson.

generation of conservative talk right here right now fair fun and backed by the trusted voices and reporting resources of fox news you're listening to Guy Benson and now here's your host Guy Benson Welcome to Guy Benson with Christine, Dylan, Joel. I'm Harry Hurley. Honored to fill in today for Guy. We have an absolutely fantastic guest on Guy Benson, Newsmaker Hotline. I've been looking forward to this interview. Jennifer Say is the founder of the startup sportswear brand XXXY, Athletics, founded by the former United States National Champion gymnast and longtime Levi's executive. However... Because of Anthony Fauci. Jennifer lost her career at Levi. So I imagine yesterday with Anthony Fauci invoking his Fifth Amendment privilege, this guy that never met a microphone or a TV camera that he didn't love 111 times took his Fifth Amendment privilege. I also should point out that her book, Levi's Unbuttoned, though I love the title, The Woke Mob took my job. but gave me my voice. Jennifer, welcome to Guy Benson. Thank you for having me. It is a pleasure. I am sure that was a very unpleasant thing, Anthony Fauci being back in the public eye in all of his self-absorbed, self-indulgent glory. It's hard to watch. You know, I'll admit at first when the diaries dropped, I wanted to just not read it. It's too hard to revisit it. I lost so much. So many families lost so much. And for those of us who saw it right away, that he was this egomaniacal narcissistic man on our trip, essentially, just eating it all up. And we were... billified for that, for saying it, for, you know, suggesting that maybe the schools needed to open and that children were being harmed. We were called every name you could be called, murderers, racist, all of the things. Our reputations were destroyed. I was chased down the street in my own town in San Francisco called a murderer and a racist. Unbelievable. I've lost... Disgusting. Almost every friend I had. And here's the thing that is really... upsetting because I did start to dive into the diaries. And I tell you, I couldn't stop crying because it just brings it all back and it brings back all the loss. Yes, I have moved on and yes, I've built a terrific life for myself. But once you're canceled and you know what, the people that say that's not a thing, I'm here to tell you, it's a thing. Once you are canceled, you do not get uncanceled, even if you were proven totally correct.

And that's what's so hard about watching it. But here's what I hope. What has become completely clear is that Anthony Fauci, he wasn't. I mean, the whole, the 1,100 pages in the diary. There's nothing about science. It's about, you know, the celebrities he met and the influence he has and with governors and mayors and getting them to... I'm the most famous person in the country. Julia John Roberts and her dry throat when she sees Anthony Fauci. It's disgusting. And it's clear to everyone now. Yes. And it is grotesque. How about this? How about... It's not clear to everyone. I should take that back. But it's getting clearer. Yes. And what I hope, because clearly what he cares about is his reputation, has burnished carefully. I hope it's just destroyed. And he goes down in absolute degree. I think it is. And I think Dr. Redfield coming out yesterday and saying that Anthony Fauci should have apologized. Redfield, I give him credit. He admitted he was wrong. He's been a man about it. Another thing that I think, Jennifer, is completely, I guess ironic, but grotesque, is he kept saying, you know, follow the science. We follow the science. I am science. All this crazy talk. But really, the science was kids should have been in school. Well, of course. That was the science. Well, and that was clear. And even to a no nothing like me, I'm not a doctor, which is, of course, are you a scientist? Are you a doctor? No, but I know. I know they're lying about the fatality rate. I know they're lying about, you know, lockdown stopping spread. I know they're lying about all of this stuff and they're censoring us and they're vilifying us. I know because I'm reading all the stuff and I don't need to be a doctor. I can read the medical papers too and none of this makes sense. And by the way, Europe opened their schools and they have 2020 and it was fine. Yeah, for all his, like, I'm the science, in those 1,100 pages, there's no discussion of the science. It's all about his fame. That's all it's about. It's about his fame and his power and his influence. He's so taken with himself. And that's why all I care about is that that is taken from him. Well, it is going to be, but I'll tell you what, how about that man with a $400 and some $1,000 a year pension for the rest of his life? I'll take that, please. That is. That is just, yeah, they should. They should. Well, we can tell you this, and I think you already know it. Senator Rampal said his panel, the House Security, Homeland Security, rather, Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, will vote next week to hold Anthony Fauci in contempt from Senator Johnson to Senator Paul. They're just giving us sort of a window into it that they have the votes. It's going to happen. And I think he's got a lot of problems because he gave a little speech at the hearing.

which many people in the legal community believe means he then had to answer the questions. You can't speak and then exercise your Fifth Amendment intermittently. One or the other. Right, it's one or the other. Exactly. Jennifer. Interesting. Yeah, those just joining us, it's Jennifer Say, who had a longtime career as a Levi's executive stolen from her because of Dr. Anthony Fauci. and daring to speak up over COVID-19. What was that like to lose your career? It was incredibly difficult. I mean, I... When I started advocating for children in open schools in March 2020 right away, I really thought I could convince people to see the light. We all want to help children, right? No one wants to harm children. I didn't understand in the beginning the sort of total media lockdown and this coerced consensus. I didn't understand what was happening. But I over the course of two years became more and more of a pariah, not just in San Francisco, but in corporate America more broadly. And what I did not expect is that I would never be able to redeem myself. And when I went about going to try to interview for new jobs in 2023, all I was asked was, will you apologize for what you've done? Wow. Unbelievable. And in the end, but you knew it in the beginning. In the end, though, the truth is and becomes self-evident. You were right. He was wrong. And what I think is also hideous, he probably told the truth to his diary, and we found out how self-absorbed, self-indulgent he is. And I saw when he did that one interview and there was a life-sized portrait of him hanging in the living room and the pillows at the couch had his face on the pillows that this was a sick man, truly sick man. So you turn out to be right. What do you say to someone? Because I think not only the word cathartic gets overused, and I don't think you need that. You won in the end because you're doing great, but they tried to take you down. And I give you so much credit for lifting yourself back up and a really. tough environment. Like you said, when you are canceled, that scarlet letter is tough to remove. But what do you say to someone that maybe has gone through something? How do they get out the other side?

One foot in front of the other. I rebuilt my whole life in my 50s. Think about that. I had to make new friends. I moved to a new city. I had a startup, for goodness sake, who does that in their mid-50s? But I am relentless, and I'm not giving up. I knew I was right. It's been hard. It's still hard. I grieved for the loss of my old life. I liked my life. I liked my friends. I liked my city. I liked my job. I won all kinds of awards. And now I'm still not let back in, but I've built a new life for myself. And I, you know, it's a cliche. I can look myself in the mirror. I always spoke the truth. I always stood up for children. That's what I care about. I've done it for the last 30 years of my life. And I'll keep doing it. Why do so many adults not stick up for the girls and for the women? Why do they allow things like in physical sports even, for example, you know, men competing against women or boys competing against girls? And you could tie that in to your founding of your startup sportswear brand XXXY. athletics i've heard and i've seen really great things about what you're doing what are your thoughts about that why do adults why do they do this I would say because it's the left that's like defending this position that men can be women if they say they are. First of all, the activists, the medical community, they have pushed this into the culture. They have stolen the culture from us through language for the last 10 to 20 years. They snuck it in. They smuggled these terrible ideas in. And I would say if you are on the left, as I used to be, that is your whole identity. Not your faith, not even your family. You care. If you're, the last thing in the world you want to be called is a Republican. And so you will scoop up and eat up any dumb platform that the Democrat Party puts in front of you. It's their religion. They're not religious. This is their religion. Jennifer Say is our guest on Guy Benson, and you touched on it. I'm going to put an even sharper point on it at the end here that you built a career, a successful career as a Levi's executive, and you built a career over 30 years and had it taken from you under bogus... circumstances and of course family members that you haven't spoken with in five years and you expect maybe you'll never speak with them again who knows we don't know what the future will bring uh... so that's just incredible and tell us about starting up your sportswear brand

Yeah, well, I realized in 2023 when I would either not get called back from any of the recruiters who had known me for 20 years, I did go through a few interviews and I was asked to apologize for what I had done. In 2023, we already knew I was right at that point. But I had proven myself to be disobedient. I did not read from the script that corporate America gave me, and that's a dangerous. position to take. I was a class trader, I think, above all else. I didn't do the secret handshake and say the dumb phrases. So I was persona non grata. I decided I had to carve my own path. So I leaned into my athletic background plus my brand building background to create XXXY athletics, my willingness to say true but sort of controversial, controversial things, true simple things. And I want to just make it cool to stand up and say men and women are different. We're having a moment right now. We're going totally viral because some girls wore our T-shirts to an Indiana fever and Seattle Storm game, and they were abused in the audience. And the T-shirt is just the simple way to say, I believe in reality, and I stand with women and girls. You don't even have to open your mouth. But we're not a merch company. We're a real clothing company. I make amazing product. We make athletic gear. You don't have to buy from brands that don't support women. You can buy anything you can buy from Lulu or Nike, you can buy from us. And we put our money where our mouth is. We take real risk to stand with women. So just to, you know, Jennifer, just to show this derangement and how insidious it is, you have a co-owner of the Seattle Storm cursing out two teenage girls because they were wearing your clothing. I mean, this is just. Unbelievable, that it's even possible. And you're doing something that at several levels I have tremendous respect for. I'm a former school board member. I love education. I love seeing kids in school learning. I couldn't stand it when kids should have been in school. Two years, juniors and seniors were missing their proms. They were missing their extra and co-curricular activities. Athletes that maybe would get scholarships weren't able to have your best years. I mean, this should have been, and maybe is criminal, what was done. And you are directing a documentary. We're down to a minute. But give us your best minute, Jennifer, say, on the documentary that you're directing about the school closures due to COVID. I made it with my filmmaking partner, Andrew James. It's called Generation COVID. We put a human face to these COVID restrictions with an emphasis on kids, the loss, the learning loss, the mental health impacts, the drugs, the suicides, the challenges to overcome it all, the losses to their families. And it'll be available streaming. I'm not going to say where yet this fall, but we do have a partner that's going to stream the film. Jennifer, if you knew, we have about 30 seconds. If you knew what? then what you know now, would you have walked this labyrinth? Yes. That's an amazing comment you just made. This is who I am. Such an honor to present you, Jennifer. I've been really looking forward to this. Congratulations on all of your success twice.

Thank you. That's very kind. I appreciate that a lot. You had to do it two times. All right, Jennifer. Be well. Bye. Bye. Imagine that. You take care. Imagine going through that. Courage comes to mind. Because you know, the easiest thing is to go along and to get along. That's the easiest thing to do. There's no mistaking that. Wow. That was something else. We will be right back. Please don't go away for this is Guy Benson. Stay with us. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Harry Hurley. Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dylan and Joel. I'm Harry Hurley. Filling in today for Guy, honor to do so. Well, this is no surprise. We have often commented that just about every single decision that President Trump or the Trump administration makes. The Democrats have a Democrat judge lined up, ready to go to undo it. Keep in mind, President Trump can't even do renovations. Now, if anybody wants to split hairs, can we agree that President Trump builds great buildings? I work for him. I can testify to the quality of the four-diamond four-star hotel that I had the privilege to run the hotel division for President Trump long ago. He knows how to build, and he knows how to do it the right way. They see a tremendous deficiency in the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center, which, remember, was Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Trump or Trump Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and a judge was standing by to take that off, chisel that off the building. And, oh, by the way, you can't close the building to do repairs. I mean, there's never been anything like this. This overreach is becoming dangerous. So I knew it, and I had predicted it and said it out loud that there will be a Democrat judge standing by to block the Department of Justice and their demand for the New Jersey voter database list that New Jersey governor, Mikie Sherrill, was purposefully withholding from the federal government, although they were directly asking for it for their own investigative purposes. U.S. District Judge, appointed by Joe Biden, Zaheed Karashi, boom, 17-page opinion. Who knows? It might have been written before they even made the request to ask for the information. This got done so quickly. They get in court, not in days, not in weeks, not in months. They get in court within hours. So unless the Trump administration, and maybe they will, and perhaps maybe they should, because shouldn't we know, there may be more. There may be more than 6,600 people that are registered to vote. There may be more than 400 who have actually voted. The same people who don't want to turn over the information are the ones telling us there's nothing more to see here. So I would definitely.

appeal this i don't know that they're going to they're not appealing the birthright citizen case so you never know sometimes there's just so much going on you have to cut and run but there you have it i mean that is um that is a very very uh quick reversal in favor of new jersey and the governor of new jersey that got it quicker than you can imagine this is Guy Benson Guy Benson, sponsored by Previgin. Previgin, made for your brain. Thank you, Previgin, and welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine, Dylan, and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley. Filling in today for Guy Benson on Guy Benson Newsmaker Hotline is one of the best analysts in the country. He already knows how I feel about him. Joyne Epstein served as Chief Counsel to the House Judiciary Committee and Staff Director. to the House Oversight Committee for the Democrat Party back in the mid to late 90s through 2001. You can follow all things Julian Epstein, at Julian Epstein, J-U-L-I-A-N-E-P-S-T-E-E-I-N at Julian Epstein. Julian, you know, it's always a pleasure to welcome you. Harry, you're always so generous with your introductions. I'm grateful, and I always enjoy coming on with you. Well, you're a good man. I saw you as recently as last night into this morning on the replay on the Fox News Channel. And why I say the things I say, it's not just to be kind, it's not to blow smoke, it's because you earn those comments, your objective, you don't chill for any one side, you tell it like it is, and we really need that, because I think you'll agree. This is a critical tipping point in American history. We have people now, you know back in the time that you were in your chief counsel role and you were the director of the House Oversight Committee for the Democrat side. Democrats didn't even want to be called liberal. They would push back mightily at being called liberal. Now they breathe socialist like it's a compliment. It's a badge of honor. This DSA, they're crazy. They want to eliminate everything. They want a communist Congress to run the country. So I know this is something that you feel very strongly about. You've spoken about it. You've written about it. Your thoughts about this. I think it's a gift to Republicans, but it's still awful. The Democrats, Socialists of America, and some of them are winning, as you know. Harry, thanks again for having me on. I think it is a gift to Republicans because the position of DSA, which is being mainstreamed now into the Democratic Party, you know, people say 50% of Democrats are sympathetic to socialism. I don't think they can define what socialism is. But the Democratic Party is only about 25% of the electorate. So when you say 50% of 25%, you're talking about 12% of the electorate. And the ideas espoused by the DSA are nihilistic, anti-American, anti-freedom ideas that 85% of the country rejects. So it is a gift for Republicans, but I think more importantly, it is a threat to the country because...

The Democratic Party right now is led by weak and cowardly politicians. Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, Barack Obama, none of whom are standing up to any of this stuff. Nope. They're afraid to. Yeah, they're afraid to. So as this grows, it becomes more accepted. And I think the party leadership is normalizing the black pilling of the American electorate, mostly because they're cowards and they're incompetent in terms of doing what Bill Clinton did in 1992, which is the sister soldier moment. But I think, you know, this is on the one hand, Harry, a story of incompetence and cowardice of the Democratic leadership. I think it is also. the inevitable arc of leftism today. Politicians, by definition, have to sell voter something. And it used to be that the left and the right would sell. voters on how to build for the future. And they had different visions on how to build for the future. The left was a pro-labor union. The left was for regulation where it was appropriate. The right was very laissez-faire. And that has changed today. And a lot of this, I think, traces back to the social media era that we're living in, but it's changed. And the right is increasingly about the free market and freedom. And the left is increasingly about... Two things, the welfare state and big government on the one hand and identity grievance on the other hand. And the problem with those two ideas is that they never deliver satisfactory outcomes. So if you take, for example, what we've been doing in health care and education, we are spending more and more money on these things and we're getting worse results. So what is the left say? The left can't say these were bad ideas. Our approaches were bad ideas on that they have to say the reason that this failed was because we didn't do enough of it. The reason education systems are having such bad results that we're not spending enough. Meanwhile in New York, we've gone from about 20,000 per student per year to 40,000. And the scores keep going down. So the left has to sell this notion that we need more big government and more identity grievance, and it becomes a pyramid scheme. And eventually the whole thing collapses of its own weight. And that's why I think the DSA and this progressive movement has become a parasite that will eventually consume the corpus of the Democratic Party.

sows the seeds of its own destruction. And that's what I think we're watching right now. Julian, what do you make of Senator John Fetterman? Because I like him. I didn't like him as a candidate, but I just like, and it might just be that I like what he's saying, but I think he's being honest about it because it's... It's really of no use. He says he won't become a Republican. The Democrats hate him. You know they're going to run hard at him from the left. So I don't know why he won't consider becoming a Republican. But what do you think of Senator John Fetterman? Well, Harry, I experience a lot of what John Fetterman experiences. I share some of his thoughts and ideas about the left. And what I get two responses, and I'm sure he gets two responses. One is that. I'm a turncoat and I've abandoned the party and I'm disloyal and therefore I'm just invited to the cocktail party circuit, which I could care less about. But more importantly, I hear more from Democrats. I agree with you and I just can't say that because if I. Say that I am going to lose my job or lose my ability to advance inside the party. A lot of the anti-Semitism you're saying, people disagree with it, but they're scared to say it because of the mob. culture in the online left. We'll just estimate you and demagogue you. And what John Fetterman is doing is a profile in courage, which we see very few of. We see him standing up for what is right, what is demonstrably right, what is incirical, what is pro-American, pro-West. And being increasingly denounced for it by the hard left. The positions that he is uttering today would be considered probably to the left of where Bill Clinton was in the 1990s. And many of the positions that Barack Obama adopted in the early 2000s, early to mid-2000s. So he hasn't, you know, shifted. What has shifted is that the Democratic Party, and there's a lot of research on this, Harry, the Democratic Party has shifted. way, way left. Republican centrist haven't moved in the last couple of decades. It's just the Democratic Party in the era of social media, the sort of the grievance politics, the rage politics that has currency in a social media environment. That is the distortion that is occurring in American politics. It's very bad. And John Fetterman is a profile in courage, whereas I think it's fair to say that Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, Barack Obama, and the others are profiles in cowardice because they will not denounce things that they would have just a short time ago. The open and blatant anti-Semitism of the left.

right now that aligned itself philosophically with what is the most Nazi-like movement on the face of the earth, which is Iran and its surrogate armies like Hamas. They are explicitly Nazi, and that is who the left aligns themselves with philosophically today. And so I think the Democratic Party is not only killing itself, it's also in the process it's aligning itself. with outright bigotry. And it's a shame for somebody who grew up like myself in a Democratic Party, seeing it slip into such decadence today. Guy Benson team went back to the archives. They went back to June. And in June, you join Epstein, you were on Fox News at night with Trace Gallagher, and you talked then about the Democratic Party losing its moral authority by aligning with extremists. As you were reading my mind, my next comment question to you was going to be on this hideous platform of anti-Semitism that the Democrat Party has just gone all in for. It blows my mind, but it's where they are. Why has... The normal wing, if you will, of the Democrat Party allowed such a small number of malcontents and counterculture radicals just take the party over. Why do they allow that? I think some of it is that they're just old and they don't know how to deal with the rage that fills our social media environments and online environments. And I think they have just been cowardly in taking on. The issue in explaining that while everyone wants to see human rights for the Palestinians, the Palestinian leadership is explicitly a bigoted Islamist supremacist, ethno supremacist, Nazi-like movement, who is not interested in peace. in the Middle East and is interested only in massacring as many Jewish civilians as they can, women and children. And they said that. You don't have to take my word for it. They say that. If you just pay attention to what they say, they say it in their charter. They said it after October 7th. And a lot of this came from, you know, the Soviet Union originally was pro-Israel in the 1940s. And then when it figured out that, and Israel was meaning socialist when it was founded. When Israel decided it wanted to go to free market route of the West, and when the Soviets figured out that they wanted Arab oil, they switched and they started calling Israel a colonial settler state. And pretty soon the left-wing academia and the U.S. and the West followed. And this has been percolating since the 1950s and the 1960s. The PLO, as you know, Harry, was something that was engineered in large part by the Soviet Union.

as part of an anti-Western campaign with the libel, the slur, the slander on Israel that it was a colonial state. Well, Israel is being slandered and slurred today. What they're attempting to do is dismantle a subterranean genocide machine in Gaza with 350 miles of underground military tunnels that are designed only to massacre. For the sole purpose of massacring Israeli civilians, no country in the world would let that infrastructure stand. And that's what Israel has been bombing. That's what Israel has been trying to uproot. It's an act of self-defense. And the Democratic Party used to be very able and willing to stand up and say, this is a fight not just for the West, not just for the United States interests, not just for Western interests, but it's a fight for basic decency in human rights. Israel being the only democracy, the only pluralists. country in the Middle East, the only country that will respect the rights of religious minorities that live within its borders, the only country that recognizes gender rights, that recognizes LGBT rights. But the left for inexplicable, well, for absurd reasons. wants to align itself with the most anti-progressive forces. And the reason they do that is because the left is interested in one thing, which is the deconstruction of the West and the deconstruction of American primacy. And American primacy is a force for good in the world, not a force for bad. And the left can't sort of countenance that. And so what they've done is they've engaged with a lot of help from places like Qatar, China, Russia in a Syops campaign. using universities, using social media to tell this blood liable. that Israel is somehow the bad guys and the Palestinian leadership, which has an elimination of ideology, is somehow the good guys. And they have created a complete inversion. And the democratic leadership starting, again, with the people I named, Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, and the others are too scared to stand up and say the truth. create and give us the moral clarity that is needed. So these leaders, I think, will be remembered historically as very weak leaders that cowered in the face of bigoted mobs. We are going to come right back with Julian Epstein to continue the discussion about the Democrat Party losing its moral authority by aligning with extremists right here on Guy Benson. Billing in for Guy Benson, it's Harry Hurley.

Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dylan and Joelle. It's Harry Hurley. Filling in today for Guy Benson on Guy Benson Newsmaker Hotline is Julian Epstein. He served as Chief Counsel to the House Judiciary Committee and staff director at the House Oversight Committee for the Democrats. Tremendous experience in the areas that we're talking about today on Guy Benson. And right as we went to the break, we were talking about Julian's take. on Democrats losing the moral authority because they have decided to align themselves with extremists. We continue our discussion with Julian Epstein. We've got enough time to go into this, and you did this for a living. You gave high-ranking Democrats your best counsel on... matters that could either make or break their careers. What would you say to New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani? Because this petition, as you know, last time I checked about within the last hour, it had over 16,000 signatures. So this isn't some, you know, 10 people signed, you know, some piece of paper. They don't want him at the 25th, I don't hate to say anniversary, but 25th year. since the terrorist enemy hit us on September 11th, 2001. He insists that he's going to be there. People don't want him to be there that are close to the situation. What would you tell the mayor of New York City? What would be your best counsel? I don't know that I could tell him, Harry, because I don't think he's in good faith. I think the mayor is a bigot. I think he's in bad faith. I think he is fomenting, attempting to foment pogroms. And that's why he says he wants to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu, which he had to take that back because it was so absurd. You're on to something. But hypothetically, would you tell the guy, listen, you really don't even want to be there. and now you're only going because you're telling you not to go. I either don't think you should go or I think you should go and here's why. What would you tell him? I would write a speech for him. And I would say if you're going to go find an opportunity to make a set of remarks where you say, you know, you have learned in the last year that things may not be as simple as you pretended they were when you did a rap song honoring terrorists aligned with Hamas. And that, in fact, many Israelis, most Israelis want peace. We have to find a piece that is based on the two-state solutions, so the Palestinians have sovereignty and Israelis have sovereignty, that we have to live together, that we have to stop calling people names, that we have to stop demagoguing on this issue, and that Israel, in fact, has a right to exist. And the people, the Islamos supremacists, the ethno-s supremacist and the Islamist movement that were responsible for the attacks.

on 9-11 were wrong and they were terrible people and they should be condemned and they have no place in the west julian 30 seconds i'm only jumping in those things that need to be said 30 seconds and we're on a hard break will the democrats win the house majority in the midterm elections with some of these wild candidates Likely only because of the thermostatic nature of American elections, and particularly the midterms. And because Trump and the Republicans are not making an effective contrast between the socialists and arguing that they have a much better way to do health care, housing, and all the other things that we're worried about through. free market solutions through competition, through deregulation, and through a host of creative ideas other than the distribution. Republicans are squandering that opportunity right now, so I think the Democrats will win the House. Julian, great to be with you. Barry, always good to be with you as well. Take good care. We'll be right back. Don't go away. This is Guy Benson.

Raise your glass to Guy Benson happy hour. Brought to you by the Finnish long drink. Finland's most popular alcoholic beverage is taking America by storm. Visit the longdrink.com. And now, here's Guy Benson. Welcome to Guy Benson with Team Christine. Christine Dillon, Joelle, I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for Guy Benson. On a busy news day, joining us on Guy Benson, Newsmaker Hotline, is one of the greats, Joe Concha, Fox News contributor, columnist for the Washington Examiner, and author of The Greatest Comeback Ever Inside Trump's Big, Beautiful campaign. Joe, welcome. Happy Thursday, my friend. How are you? I am well, sir, and oh, we have a lot to talk about. Maybe what we'll do is we'll enjoy some audio together and have you do your crackerjack analysis that you're so good at. Joel, if you would set us up for this discussion. First, we're going to play two cuts. Cut 11, CNN's Abby Phillip is basically arguing with Lydia Moynihan and all the evidence is right here. Can you be a little bit more specific about what you think Anthony Fauci did and said that was so wrong, that based on what we knew at the time, that you should hold him accountable for every bad thing that happened? during COVID as a result of the virus and lockdown. So the diaries are quite illuminating because he was writing one thing at the same time that he was saying something very different publicly. He was extremely dismissive, for instance, of the origins of COVID. At the same time that he was saying, I don't think this is from the wet market. And that's just one example. Abby Philip doubling down for her brethren in the legacy Democrat media also saying in this interview that there's no proof Anthony Fauci made any mistake or did anything basically that was so wrong. Joe, take it away. Oh, I'll take it away. I mean, this is the biggest scandal of the 20. First century, bar none. I'm not a hyperbole guy, Harry. You know me, right? I don't say things to go viral and to do all these things to draw attention to myself. I am telling you, and I think a lot of people would agree with me that. Anthony Fauci and his testimony or lack thereof 111 times provoking the Fifth Amendment was just so telling of what we know as far as my kids. I'll put it this way. It's personal for me. My son was four. My daughter was six. And they were left out of school here in New Jersey for almost two.

They were on their iPads learning that way. We had to hire tutors and all that because they were so far behind with everything. Because Anthony Fauci, per his own diary, said that... This was not a threat to young children. He said this. He wrote this in his own diary and did the opposite because, wow, you really love the media attention. He loved going on MSNBC and on CNN and glazed by the New York Times and the Washington Post, literally wrote about it like, wow, I can't believe all the media attention that I'm getting. Hey, Joe, how about Julia John Roberts? If we're to believe Anthony Fauci, He wrote in his diary, Dear Diary, it's me. I love myself. And Julia John Roberts told me that when she sees me, her throat gets dry. This guy's pretty sick, Joe. Yeah, he is. And the fact that Hollywood and, again, Jake Tapper, Dana Bash, Ari Melburgh, all these people on these cable news networks that claim to be, oh, wow, they're objective. They're here to speak truth to power without fear or favor to party. And then you hear and you read what Anthony Fauci wrote in his diary. And then obviously with Julia John Roberts, again, this guy couldn't be any more in love with himself. And I would hope. Forget the Biden pardon, right? Forget that whole thing. He should go to jail. And I don't talk that way in terms of like, we got to send people to jail, but for once I want accountability for what this kid, what this guy did to my kids. It's a whole ball of wrong. Anyway, play the Julia John Roberts clip. Well, we don't have the Julia John Roberts clip, but that was the, I paraphrased it, but that is what he said about what Julia John Roberts said. So I refer to it. We are visiting with Joe Concha. Fox News contributor on the Guy Benson Joe Newsmaker hotline. In terms of Anthony Fauci making an opening statement, do you agree with me, Joe, that once he made an opening statement at that point in time, he can no longer exercise his Fifth Amendment privilege? I think he has a very big problem here. And as you know, Senator Rand Paul's committee Homeland Security and Government Affairs next week they believe they have the votes to hold him in contempt, to make a criminal referral to, yeah, to the Attorney General to the Department of Justice. What do you think about? I know we're not lawyers and we're not playing one today on radio, but. He did speak. He did actually attack the chairman with his speech. But then when it came time to answering even what color is Thai was, what color is the carpet in front of you? I mean, innocuous questions. I think he's going to have a problem. Smart people ask those questions for a reason because there's no risk there.

So what are your thoughts that he forfeited his Fifth Amendment privilege at two levels? One, because he has a preemptive almost 10-year pardon on anything. And also because he spoke at that hearing before then saying he won't speak. Harry, I mean, boy, what can you really say? He tried to use the Fifth Amendment as a sword and a shield. So to that point that you're making, he makes an opening statement, said that Rand Paul had slandered him, right? And then when Rand Paul asked, well, how did I slander you? Well, I'm going to plead the Fifth Amendment. I will not speak about this. He made the statement. Once you make the statement, Right. And again, my daughter is 12 years old. She wants to be a lawyer. And her favorite movie, believe it or not, at 12 years old, is a few good men, which I think is, you know, top five all time. I love it. Oh, the best, right. Jack Nicholson, Tom Cruise, a young Debbie Moore. Kevin Bacon. Kevin Bacon was very good in that, actually. Jack Ross, that's right. So we watched it last night. And, you know, she, she. obviously wants to be in the legal profession. And I explained the word, the Anthony Fauci situation, right? Where, again, wait a minute, you made a statement saying you're being slandered. And then when you were asked about being slandered, you hit behind the Fifth Amendment. I go, that's a whole blow wrong. And she, at 12 years old, sixth grade, completely and totally understood that. So yeah, this isn't a complicated legal argument. In the end, I would hope. For once, Harry, I mean, we talk about this all the time. Like James Comey should go to jail, right? And Brennan should go to jail. And all these people that were in government that obviously committed crimes should go to jail. And they never do because there's never any accountability ever. Like we always see the, we hear the hearings and we say this person did something very, very wrong. Anthony Fauci should go to jail. And. Unless I see it happen, then it's just going to be one big show. It's like Seinfeld, a show about nothing, all talk, no action. Let me see something for once because this guy ruined my kid's future back when they were four and six years old. And thank God they've recovered since. But still, he lied. He said it in his diary. He needs to go to jail. And if we don't see that happen, then, well, I have no faith in anything. I'm sorry, Harry. Joe Concha, bringing it on Guy Benson. You're right. Now, I'm rooting for that future attorney in your household. Thank you. Thank you. She's going to be a great one. I know. So you know from all the interviews you do on the Fox News channel when you talk about on this issue, and you monitor, like, from CNN to all the networks, you know, that run cover for the Democrats. So in the Anthony Fauci run up to his testimony, which turned out to be, as you mentioned, 11, 11, I take the 5th. They covered it zero seconds. One of the networks, I think it was CBS, covered it for like 24 seconds. Right. So they just, they cover for him to this day. Here's further evidence of that, Joe. Take a listen. This is the CBS medical contributor covering for Anthony Fauci. I saw this. It's terrible. Joel, cut 12. So I want to say I've actually read.

all of the pages of the diaries. There's two releases, 1,100 and then some almost 500. Most of his comments are actually about the pressure it was creating and the harassment and death threats and what that led to in terms of security. So that's actually most of his comments about the fame. Who here has not taken a selfie with a celebrity who's been here in the studio? Okay. So there you have it, Joe. Please tell us. I know somebody who has never taken a selfie with somebody who is on the air with me. Me, right? Or you, Harry, for that matter. Because you're professional. Right. At Fox, I don't do these things. I did it twice, all right? I'll share. At the RNC, yes, I took a selfie with Hulk Hogan, right? The late Hulk Hogan. And because... My kid and I watched Rocky 3 the night before, and I thought it would be a cool thing because he's Thunderlips. All right. And then I took one also with the guy who played Reagan. Who was that again? Let's see. Dennis Quaid. Dennis Quaid. Yeah. So I took two with them. That was it. That was at the R&C. It was because I saw their movies. But would I ever, ever at Fox take a selfie with somebody? No, of course not. Because people don't do those things unless you're a narcissist. Yeah, they do it. And Anthony Fauci did it all the time. He loved being on with Julie John Roberts. He loved talking with George Clooney. He loved the attention that he got. And again, this guy was supposed to be saving lives. He did anything but. And unless he goes to jail, then I'm sorry. Then we have a big, big problem in this country because he inflicted pain on this country, knowingly lied about it. Oh, by the way, never believed, by the way, that that virus came from a Wuhan lab that studies coronaviruses. John Stewart said it best, Harry. He said it best. He said, you know what? If you had an outbreak of chocolate in Hershey, Pennsylvania, where's the first place you look? You look at the friggin' chocolate factory. Right? And the same thing went on with Wuhan, but instead what we had was, oh, it came from a wet market and a bat, I guess, got together with some sort of cocoa bean shovel. And boom, here we have coronavirus because he pushed game of function research. And that's all that's it. Joe, I was going to say, let's play detective. He had to go with the bat. wet market theory publicly, even though privately in his diary, he does leave open the lab theory, but never publicly. He made everybody a kook. And as you know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. lost his social media platforms and everything because he said that he didn't believe the wet market that he felt that it happened at that Wuhan Institute of Ruralogy. And that got you de-platformed. It was just insidious. It was sick what they did. And Anthony Fauci with his... dinners with Jake Tapper calling it, quote, a friendship building. Tapper said he told Anthony Fauci, quote, he wanted to make sure the interview didn't cause any problems. You had the media still, even after yesterday and the Democrats on that committee, Joe Concha, say that Anthony Fauci is a hero. This is grotesque.

There's no other way to put it, Harry. And again, the fact that he pleaded the fifth 111 times. You know how bad that looks? I mean, it looks horrible. Like, okay, because there are videos out there. And I'm sure that you could play it at some point during the show where he said, I'd be happy to testify to Congress under oath about anything they want me to ask. Oh, but no, he's not going to do that anymore. Yeah, they took him up on it, Joe. And then when they did. He didn't answer any questions 111 times. We're going to continue with Joe Concha Fox News contributor after this brief time out. This is Guy Benson. It's Harry Hurley. Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dylan and Joel. I'm Harry Hurley. Filling in today for Guy Benson on Guy Benson newsmaker hotline is Fox News contributor Joe Concha. And right before the break, he were going to get into his recent article in The Washington Examiner about journalists morphing into Democrat political activists. You wrote a great piece in the Washington Examiner. about the Anthony Fauci diaries and how it reveals to all of us, how journalists have morphed into Democrat political activists. Tell us about the piece. Well, you know, basically it's Jake Tapper, right, who had Anthony Fauci over for dinner. at his home in April of 2020. Oh, that's right. Oh, CNN was telling us that you can't socialize in any way, shape, or form unless you're Jake Tapper. And then you have to have Anthony Fauci over at your house, right? Then Danabash, same thing. Texts per Anthony Fauci's diary. All right. So this isn't like speculation on my part saying that, oh, wow, Anthony wrote me to say that. Boy, I love the fact that you said this, XYZ, and then we go on with George Stephanophilus over and over again as far as the media kissing this guy's ass. If I could say that, Christine, thank you. I appreciate it. But seriously, like all of them did. They're all on text. He all shared on his diary. So again, why we think. The media is less trusted than gas station sushi. Well, that is exhibit A, B, C, and D as far as what we saw from the media during COVID in contact with a government official who they should be scrutinizing, who they should be questioning. Over and over again, what do you know and what should we do? Instead, they want to be his best friend, and that's a whole bowl of wrong, Harry. Absolutely. You are listening to the great Joe Concha Fox News contributor. We've got to talk socialists in the three minutes that we have, Joe, because they will, as you have said, on the news channel, on the Fox News channel, and in your columns in the Washington Examiner, they will make the United States unrecognizable. Tell us your thoughts.

Well, in the end, I think, Harry, that what we have going on here is that the DSA is now brazen at this point. They believe that the Senate should be abolished. The U.S. presidency should be abolished. They believe that prisons should be abolished. They think that ICE should be abolished and that every citizen that is in this country illegally, right, so therefore they're not citizens, should be obviously. Right. given citizenship. Supreme Court gone. All they want is the communist Congress that they want. That's what they want. That's it. Oh, by the way, expand the Supreme Court where it looks like the New York Yankees roster, right? Like 24 deep. Okay, so we have 15 liberals and only six conservatives. Again, and the media you would think would scrutinize this stuff. No, they won't. because they are in favor of everything these guys are saying. Now, in the end, Michigan is the big, big play here, Harry, because if L. Said, the fake doctor who says that he saved more lives than any doctor around, which as, again, my wife is an ER doctor, boy, that pisses me off to no end, that this guy doesn't even have a medical license and says that he saves lives, despite the fact he's not a doctor, right? If he wins there, as a Democrat socialist, in a purple state that Donald Trump has won twice, then Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is your nominee. And if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is your nominee, then can she win in Pennsylvania or Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, Arizona. If she could win in those states, okay, great. I don't think that happens. I think in the end, Marco Rubio or JD Vance or both will defeat an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez by, I don't know, a Reagan kind of landslide, 49 states. That's what you hope that happens if you're a Republican at this point. Final 45 seconds with your mouth to God's ears. Joe Concha. Tommy Tuberville, who I know you know and know of, Tommy Tuberville, is going to be the governor. And he has said that Alabama could pursue a case against Anthony Fauci. You know, this, as you know, this pardon is at the federal level. Anthony Fauci is wide open at the state level. That's right. 30 seconds, closing comment. Oh, well, you know, go Tommy Tomberville, right? I mean, we've rooted for you back in the SEC and now here you are. So in the end, in 30 seconds, yes, I think that. Even if you're a Democrat, like how are you actually going to support Anthony Fauci what he did to your children, what he did as far as what he wrote in his diary, which was one thing, and the way he governed, so to speak, which was another. I would hope that it goes to jail, but again, I don't have a lot of faith in that, Harry, because we've never seen it happen before as far as accountability among people that commit crimes. And Anthony Fauci absolutely is guilty of a crime. The question is, will somebody step up and finally enforce that? We'll see. Right, because Democrats will put Republicans in jail.

No question about it. Several examples in the first Trump administration. Joe, I always enjoy our time together. Be well, my friend. Perry, great job. Take care. You do a great job. We'll be back with more. This is Guy Benson. in for Guy Benson. Here's Harry Hurley. Welcome back to Guy Benson with Christine Dillon and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for Guy Benson. Earlier in the program, we spoke with Jennifer Say, the founder of the startup sportswear brand XXXY Athletics. Here's a part of our interview. I am sure that was a very unpleasant thing. Anthony Fauci being back in the public eye in all of his self-absorbed, self-indulgent glory. It's hard to watch. You know, I'll admit at first when the diaries dropped, I wanted to just not read it. It's too hard to revisit it. I lost so much. So many families lost so much. And for those of us who saw it right away, that he was this egomaniacal narcissistic man on our trip, essentially, just eating it all up. And we were... billified for that, for saying it, for, you know, suggesting that maybe the schools needed to open and that children were being harmed. We were called every name you could be called, murderers, racist, all of the things. Our reputations were destroyed. I was chased down the street in my own town in San Francisco called a murderer and a racist. Unbelievable. I've lost... Disgusting. Almost every friend I had. And here's the thing that is really... upsetting because I did start to dive into the diaries. And I tell you, I couldn't stop crying because it just brings it all back and it brings back all the loss. Yes, I have moved on and yes, I've built a terrific life for myself. But once you're canceled and you know what, the people that say that's not a thing, I'm here to tell you, it's a thing. Once you are canceled, you do not get uncanceled, even if you were proven totally correct. And that's what's so hard about watching it. But here's what I hope. What has become completely clear is that Anthony Fauci, he wasn't. I mean, the whole, the 1,100 pages in the diary. There's nothing about science. It's about, you know, the celebrities he met and the influence he has and with governors and mayors and getting them to. I'm the most famous person in the country, Julia John Roberts and her dry throat when she sees Anthony Fauci. It's disgusting. And it's clear to everyone now. Yes. And it is grotesque. How about this? Can I say what? Go ahead. It's not clear to everyone. I should take that back.

But it's getting clearer. Yes, and what I hope, because clearly what he cares about is his reputation, has burnished carefully. I hope it's just destroyed, and he goes down in absolute degree. I think it is, and I think Dr. Redfield coming out yesterday and saying that Anthony Fauci should have apologized. Redfield, I give him credit. He admitted he was wrong. He's been a man about it. And another thing that I think, Jennifer, is completely, I guess ironic, but grotesque. is he kept saying, you know, follow the science. We follow the science. I am science. All this crazy talk. But really, the science was kids should have been in school. Well, of course. That was the science. Well, and that was clear. And even to a no nothing like me, I'm not a doctor, which is, of course, are you a scientist? Are you a doctor? No, but I know. I know they're lying about the... Fatality rate, I know they're lying about, you know, lockdown stopping spread. I know they're lying about all of this stuff and they're censoring us and they're vilifying us. I know because I'm reading all the stuff and I don't need to be a doctor. I can read the medical papers too and none of this makes sense. And by the way, Europe opened their schools and they have 2020 and it was fine. Yeah, for all his like, I'm the science, in those 1100 pages, there's no discussion of the science. It's all about his fame. That's all it's about. It's about his fame and his power and his influence. He's so taken with himself. And that's why all I care about is that that is taken from him. Well, it is going to be, but I'll tell you what, how about that man with a $400 and some $1,000 a year pension for the rest of his life? I take that, please. That is just. Yeah, they should. They should. Well, we can tell you this, and I think you already know it, Senator Rampal said his panel, the House Security, Homeland Security, rather, Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee. We'll vote next week to hold Anthony Fauci in contempt. That was part of our interview with Jennifer Say, the founder of the startup sportswear brand XXXY Athletics. For the full interview, go to Guy Benson.com. Coming up next, it's the home stretch. A new TSA piece of advice, and Dulles is getting a massive facelift. And we'll do that with Dylan and Joel right here on Guy Benson. In the swamp, not of the swamp. Guy Benson.

And now it's time for your favorite segment of the day. Home Stretch. It's basically the only segment I'm on. So I've declared it the audience's favorite segment. Guy Benson. Welcome to Guy Benson with Team Christine. That's Christine, Dylan, and Joelle. I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for Guy Benson and today's panel, Dylan, Joelle, and your shrew. Dylan, I would like you to start this sort of two-part piece here on TSA, Dulles, the whole deal, your thoughts. Yeah, so kind of kick it off. There's a funny thing that I just saw on social media today. The TSA remarked, it's National Hamic Day for those of you who celebrate. It's National Hammock Day, but the TSA actually responded to a post for the day saying, nobody said you couldn't bring a hammock to the airport, is what they added. They also said to reduce tension or to avoid having a falling out with the airport, check with them about where you can and can't hang your napping apparatus, which I just thought was funny, obviously a bit tongue-in-cheek. by the TSA. But, you know, I kind of got me thinking about potential improvements to be made to airports. I do think there needs to be upgrades across the board in most airports for people, especially people who have extremely long layovers and end up having to sleep in the airport. I think a lot of improvements could be made. But again, newsie hook here, Trump yesterday announced that he was going to He basically unveiled a $22 billion project to completely revamp Dulles, which is my home airport. I live here in D.C. probably about 12 minutes away from Dulles. Like, we can see planes taking off and landing right outside our apartment window. But it's much, it is well, well-needed area. I don't know if you've, have you flown through Dulles recently or ever? Never have flown, have gone by it. Many many times. It's a huge airport. It's very, very big. I think there's five terminals in Dulles. And obviously it's a huge like regional hub. A lot of people going west of here or south of here. Fly in and out of Dulles. Anytime I travel, I fly out of Dulles. But they have these things at Dulles, which has been a personal pet peeve of mine for a long time. They're called the people movers. Oh, yeah. They, for whatever reason, the airport in our nation, the largest airport in our nation's capital in the year 2026 does not have some sort of rail transportation like in between the five different terminals that we have here. I have no idea. I have no idea how it is taken this long. And there's this thing they, I mean, they dress them up with fancy names and call it the mobile lounge. But it's essentially just a giant bus that drives you around. And it's in the, they drive you in the middle of the tarmac to get to different parts of the airport. They leave every 10 minutes. So if you're in a rush to get to a different gate.

Good luck. You're not going to get there. And they pack people in like sardines. And it is like the worst. It's the worst like public amenity I've experienced in an airport in the country. Like I hate the mobile lounges. And Trump announced that they're doing an actual rail option and a walking tunnel. So if you want to walk, which you currently can't, you're tied down to the mobile lounges as of currently or as of the president. But I mean, I welcome. I welcome these changes. Oh, my gosh. It's an overuse phrase, but it's a game changer. It is. It is. It's from a modernization standpoint, it brings Dulles into this, you know, into this century properly. Joel, by the way, I do want to comment, I've never flown Dulles because anytime we go to Northern Virginia or to Washington, D.C., we drive. And it's not a bad drive. I don't mind it at all. No, no. Maybe. maybe a half a tank away from Washington, D.C. Yeah, there's just no reason. It's pretty close. Yeah, to fly. When you think about how long it takes and flying is not as dependable as it used to be, if your flight, you have to get there a certain amount of time in advance, if your flight is late or doesn't take off, I mean, driving is a superior option for me. Yeah, for sure. Go out. I mean, I definitely think it's a welcome change. However, and this may be a bit of an overreach, gentlemen. If Trump can make this change, I'll be a very happy man. The price of airport food. All right. Here's what I think. overly expensive, even airport beer options. I'm not much of a drinker, but I remember when I was flying out of Newark last November, I coasted through because I had some free time. I thought, maybe if I could get a mimosa, I'll kill some time. I kid you not, guys. I think the cost of just a glass of beer was about $18 to $20. And I thought, my God, it's so expensive. And the airport food can range from upwards of like, if you're going to higher end restaurants in the airport. Like $60, $70, $80, even $90. I'm thinking it's just airport food. Like how did it get this costly? Because life is just broken right now. Everything is like that. I'm going to put something out that I believe both Dylan and Joel are going to find a bit incredible to believe. But it's true. I like to fly out of Atlantic City International Airport. It's very convenient. They do a nice job. And this is hard to believe. I usually fly in the morning so I don't have them. But if I fly in the afternoon or the evening even, they have some of the finest chicken tenders. I mean, they are lightly, yes, lightly battered. They're not like this typical variety that you think about that maybe somebody threw in a microwave or put them frozen, put them in the oven, you know, for 15 minutes or less. They are delicious. And when I wrote an article about the best chicken tenders in the southern portion of the state of New Jersey, I included the chicken tenders.

from Atlantic City International Airport. I mean, along with some of the finest restaurants in the country, because we have incredible dining in the southern portion of New Jersey with the casinos and even the non-casino restaurants that are absolutely world-class. Would you ever believe that I could say that? I know it sounds bizarre, but chicken tenders at a local airport that are gourmet quality. You had me at chicken tenders, Harry. I know. Oh, man. Delicious. And my grandson is a connoisseur of chicken tenders, and he swears by them. My daughter is an absolute foodie. She knows how tremendous they are, Kristen. So, yeah, you never know. You hear Joe Concha all the time on Fox News Channel and Fox News Radio, on the Godd Guy Benson, for example, talking about gas station sushi. But this is airport chicken tenders that are notable. Well, go ahead. I mean, I think anyone in the right mind would prefer, you know, chicken tenders at an airport versus gas station sushi. That's just rolling the dice right there. I agree. But I don't think people would think that you would get gourmet caliber, although I will say, depending on the airport, Orlando International Airport, a lot of good dining. Yes. And keep in mind, I forget what they call it, but Mayor Buddy Dyer. was it like Marty or something like that? They have tremendous transportation when you exit your gate and I make it that I don't go to baggage claim. I have a good suitcase that I can bring on the plane that holds everything I need even for a week or longer. I don't like checking my bag in. I don't know about you guys. That's not a pet peeve with me. It's almost a non-starter. I don't want to check the bag in. I want the bag with me. Then I can get off the plane, grab an Uber, and boom, you're gone. When you wait for that horn to go off, that bell or whatever it is, and then finally, how does it go? And then finally you can get your bag and there's that whole, you know, rush for the bags. Nope. Do you guys carry your bag on or do you check the bag in? Well, I would say it kind of depends for me. I mean, I actually, I got to sort of disagree with you a little bit, Harry. I, especially if we're making a connection somewhere, if we get offered. to gate check our carry-ons, I will jump on that like a thousand times out of 10 because I would much rather wait a couple minutes at the baggage claim area rather than hauling a, usually I mean, I am a very efficient packer. I will stuff like a week's worth of stuff into a carry-on bag. But like I would much rather wait at the baggage claim for a couple of minutes instead.

not have to haul that around. Not me. I'll tell you why. I'm going to double down now on that. Here's my deal. It's with me. I don't have to worry if it's going to make it to the next connection. That's fair. And actually get to you and to where you're going. And then it's a day or two before you get your bag if you're lucky. And here's the other thing. And they're not that crazy expensive. You can get them when they're on sale. I got a bag. I still can't believe the price I got it for. I can push the bag with one finger. It has four wheels. It is so balanced that I could just, I can actually push it and send it ahead and it will stay straight and drive itself. I got the same suitcase pretty much that pilots and the airline attendants use, and it holds easy a week so that you don't have to worry about not having enough stuff with you. And then you know. that you have your bag. Everywhere that you are, it's with you. Joel, are you a check-in guy or a carry-on guy? Carry-on 100%. And here's why I always have this fear in the back of my mind that, you know, God forbid I had to check in my bag and it gets lost into the abyss of other bags that were checked in. I'd rather have it with me, carry it at all time, so that it's just peace of mind for me. And this isn't the reason, but it did happen to me. And it's not like it's happened a million times. Only one time when I've checked my bag, did my bag not make it? And we were going from Atlantic City International Airport to Orlando International Airport. And my bag made it. to Orlando International Airport. This was like they had to investigate. And they have cameras and everything. Surprise, surprise. They saw my bag. It made it to Florida. But my bag did not make it to baggage claim. I had to leave without my bag, not knowing if I was ever going to see it again. And I wound up getting it, I think, a little bit before 12 midnight on the same day. But. Then I thought after that, you know what? I'm not checking in anymore. I mean, I get that fear, but like now on my, I am a, like our very own Guy Benson, I am a United flyer. I usually fly United, especially because that's kind of the home base for United here in the region is Dulles. But you can track your bags in the app now. So I can see if. if the bag has made it to each place. I can see exactly where it's at. So I'm still, I won't be swayed. I'm, I'm a checker all the way, but I definitely get your reasoning. It's a very, a very well-found fear of losing your bags. It is a worthy, friendly split decision. And that closes out this fun edition. of the home stretch with Dylan and with Joelle. And it closes out the program. I want to thank Guy. I want to thank Christine, Dylan, and Joelle. It's been great to be with you. It's always an honor to fill in. And to the great listeners of Guy Benson, thanks for being with us. This is Guy Benson. You had me at chicken tenders here. I know. Oh, man. Delicious.

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