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There is a history in this country of perceived threats to white women being weaponized against African Americans and the danger that poses to black players in the league. Players have been abused online and have reported receiving death threats. That has to be taken more seriously. I sincerely regret my lack of appropriate context is overshadowing that important conversation and the action that needs to be taken by the WNBA to address it directly for the benefit of all players. So she's doubling and tripling down? I just, the amount of insane takes in the culture of sports that has been allowed to exist. for so long is blowing up in a big way and all it took was one person stepping out Sophie Cunningham to call out men and women's sports. And what you're seeing is the sort of what I would say, Emperor Without Clothes analogy, a lot of other people are stepping up and this whole house of cards is collapsing all around it. So this is, I will see what the further the fallout continues. What I would say, Buck, and I just tweeted out that statement. What I would say it really speaks to is the culture because the editorial staff saw a comparison of a player complaining about fouls and an analogy being drawn to the murder of Emmett Till. And they thought to themselves, hey, you know what? This is a really good critique that belongs in the sports section of the USA Today. And I would say it's just emblematic more than anything else of... Sorry, of the culture out there. There now are AI groc ads based on your... based on your phrase. I got to be careful even saying it. Rock with your grok out, basically. And I am laughing at these. All right, a couple of funny comments. Let's have some fun as we roll into our three buck. Allison in L.A. listening on AM 1150, the Patriot, K-E-I-B. She has this to say, cut B. Toby Cunningham is so hot. I'm straight, and I would go gay for her. So we had a marriage proposal and a straight woman saying she would turn gay for her. Sophie Cunningham having a good day on the show here. Jerry in New York, W-O-R. He's got a brilliant idea, Buck. Hey, Clay and Buck. If anybody happens to drop Sophie Cunningham for endorsements, I think a fantastic idea would be to have... probably soon to be billionaire Sidney Sweeney hire her for her lingerie brand. I mean, that would be the best duo since Babe Ruth and Luke Eric, maybe. I love. I agree with his assessment that Sidney Sweeney is going to, she's going to be, as we have discussed, she's going to sell her lingerie brand to probably the same conglomerate that owns Victoria's Secret and all these other things for a billion dollars.

You and I both said, I don't know if we said it on the air, but we both said, if somebody had come to us and said, Sidney Sweeney's starting a lingerie company, do you want to invest in that company? I would have said, take my money now, yes. Yep, I would have written a sizable check for me, for sure, yes. That would have been a very good investment. All right, one more podcast listener, G, fire away. Well, Clay, it looks like Buck is added to the vernacular for the 40-and-up crowd. In our 20s and 30s, it's suns out, guns out. But now in our 40s and up, I guess it's rock out with the grok out. Can't wait to propose of my wife that tomorrow night we streamed the Lincoln Assassination Series with the grok out. What if the Lincoln assassination series just surges to the top of Apple's viewership? And they're like, what in the world is going on? Why is this leaking assassination thing gotten so hot? Couples everywhere are streaming this at a level we've never seen before. They're going to end up sponsored by Apple. Oh, this is amazing. Okay. So let's get people even more fired up here. I mentioned this earlier in the program. I was reading this morning, getting ready for the show, and there is data that has come out that shows researchers. I'm reading from Axios this morning. researchers compared crash rates of human driven cars and Waymo Robotaxies in San Francisco, Phoenix, L.A. and Austin. Have you been in a Waymo yet? Buck, you have, right? Yes, many times, yeah. They're very popular now in Miami. They spread to a lot of different cities. They initially were in L.A. and San Francisco in a substantial way. Okay, what is the impact? This is pretty significant. Waymo vehicles had 68%... fewer police reportable crashes per mile than human drivers in San Francisco, Phoenix, LA, and Austin. And Waymo had 85% fewer single vehicle crashes than human drivers. The data, I think, is going to become irrefutable that it is far safer to have self-driving automobiles, which are iterating every day getting a little bit better than human drivers. Now, that doesn't mean you should have to use a self-driving vehicle. It doesn't mean that you should be required to give up driving. Some people love driving. But what I do think will start to happen, Buck, is... You will start to see insurance companies in the years ahead.

charging you more to be using a vehicle that you operate yourself because they're going to look at the data and say you're far more likely to be in an accident than someone who is using a self-driving vehicle. And I think this data, because the AI iterates and gets better and better, every day they are making the AI better in the self-driving vehicles. We had a conversation about this earlier this week, tons of people reacting. And obviously, I'm using a self-driving vehicle a lot in that I have a Tesla. My kids have as Tesla that they drive primarily. And we're using it 95% of the time to self-drive as opposed to individual drive. Look, you know where I stand on this one. And I think that once people experience it, they'll always see it as a... really uh important convenience uh an option to have in a lot of cars you're going to see more and more of it and i would just note that these conversations that we have about this this stuff is in process or in progress right now this is not Oh, in 10 years, something will happen. This is happening in Miami. It is happening in San Fran, in New York, in Chicago. These changes are already starting to show up people's day-to-day lives. Another thing we haven't really talked about here, Clay, is the data centers argument that has been underway here, which is directly tied into AI. Self-driving cars and AI are also very much interlinked. But now people are opposing... these data centers that are going up all over the place because you need you need massive computing power to support a lot of these artificial intelligence uh projects and and and companies and so people are getting upset now in in uh it was just earlier this month governor hokel has an executive order pausing hyperscale data centers So they want to do a whole, oh, we have to look at the impact on energy, environment, water usage has become a big part of this. But this is reminding me a lot about the debate about fracking, which was only, let's say, 15 years ago. 15 years ago, some morons got a documentary Oscar for making a movie about how fracking, I think, was basically just going to poison the drinking water, and it was terrible for us. And it just wasn't true. The whole thing was just a complete... fabrication of fear. And I think now with the data centers, it's one thing if you don't want a data center in your community because you want something more vibrant, you want to park for city planning purposes. But the opposition to these data centers on water usage, have you seen people start to link up? Yes. Data centers versus golf courses. Spoiler alert, golf courses use a whole heck of a lot more water than all the data centers combined. No one's trying to shut down the golf courses. So there you go. No, and look, I think unfortunately what's going to happen is for states like New York, they're just making really poor decisions when it comes to the way that they are utilizing their...

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It is not, in fact, the case that they are, they are, they are, just because they say it. Because they can't even separate the categories to create the inclusion of the categories without stating that the categories are separate, first and foremost. Is everyone seeing what I'm putting down on that one? You see what I mean? Also, if you are not acknowledging the biology of women, why does everybody have surgery to try to look like women? The whole thing is crazy. That clip is not in yet. Let's get to a couple of calls. Michael in Tulsa, Oklahoma, fire away. Hi, guys. Yeah, this is about the self-driving cars and their safety advantages. I would really like an equivalent of a second amendment for the right to keep and drive a motor vehicle. the same kind of strong constitutional protection that we have for the right to keep and bear arms. Here's what I see happening is initially, yeah, you will be able to continue to own and drive your own car. But you mentioned insurance companies. Eventually, it may be impossible to continue or prohibitively expensive to continue to insure a car on the road. And you can't drive a car on the road without insurance.

Hold on, let me just push back on that a little bit. Sorry, wouldn't the insurance companies be making insurance expensive from a capitalistic perspective because people who are driving cars are far more likely to be in accidents than self-driving cars are? If one insurance company is charging you way too much and it's just exorbitant, then somebody else would come in and say, hey, here's a better deal, right? I understand your argument of, hey, I'm worried about the right to drive a car being restricted based on cost. But that would be largely the marketplace, right? If somebody's trying to say. If the data does reflect, as the data reflects right now, that it's going to be far safer to have self-driving cars, i.e., you're less likely to get an accident, less likely to be severely injured, all those things, then the insurance rates would go up, right? If you have accidents, you have to pay more. If you get speeding tickets, you have to pay more. If you're a higher risk, then you pay more. And driving yourself may well end up being a higher risk than not driving. So this is a, thank you for the call, but there's a market-based solution to me. And if somebody's trying to charge you way too much, there should be another company created that provides a better value. I mean, all insurance is, is just an algorithm, right? And whoever builds the best algorithm makes way more money. because they're better able to analyze risk. That's the entire business. And so I think it would still apply going forward because it's still a risk-based business. I want to tell you, how do you save money right now? Pure Talk. Next three months, $15 a month. Three months, you can get $15 a month. on your cell phone bill and then you still have a crazy infinitely lower cost when you compare what pure talk costs compared to everyone else all you have to do to get hooked up go find out for yourself from your phone right now you can keep your same phone and your same phone number just do pound two five zero say clay and buck it's a super easy switch to make but you can find out for yourself just how much money you can save all you have to do again pound two five zero fifteen dollars a month for your first three months you can save up to a thousand dollars over the life of a deal pound two five zero say clay and buck that's pound two five zero say clay and buck truth and having Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back in Clay and Buck. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. We are joined now by Steve Dase. He is a highly successful radio show host. Show host. I think you do a lot of things in Iowa, I believe, if I am not mistaken. And we're going to get into a lot of different things with him. But actually, I'll start with this. We're going to get into Sophie Cunningham, the Odyssey, a bunch of different stories.

What is the reaction in Iowa? You've got competitive races for both the Senate and the governor's races. The Democrat Party has basically decided we're done with having our caucuses start in Iowa. Is that being received well in the state? I know that's very important to many Iowans. What is that like from your perspective? No, it has not been received well at all guys. And we have about a quarter of a million voter registration advantage over Democrats here in the state of Iowa. But they have probably the two best candidates they've run in our state statewide, particularly the Senate candidate. I know there's a lot of attention on Rob San, but the Senate candidate, Josh Turrick, former gold medal wheelchair Olympian, has run very inspirational ads. I think it's really the best. messaging statewide a democrat has done and i've not just our state but i've seen anywhere around the country uh... in the trump years uh... really i mean the stuff he's hitting up trump on is kind of traditional class warfare liberal stuff and you know not the the the the stuff of uh... you know uh... that that's deconstructive in nature like we've seen over the last few years and much of the trump era so his negatives are not very high I think he'll be a tough beat. I think Rob Seen will be a tough beat. I think, though, the metrics that we have on the ground in Iowa give us an advantage here, particularly because we did not nominate an establishment hack member of Congress that they could have nationalized our race and run against. Instead, we nominated a conservative outsider in Zach Lane, who now he is free to attack them from the right in ways that Randy Feenstra would not have been. So I still think Zach will win. Ashley Hinson, I think will probably win. But I think they're getting at every ounce of that quarter of a million voter registration advantage in the current environment. It might just be by a couple of points. Steve, it's Buck. Appreciate you being with us. I'm still torn between... whether I'm going to go, mostly because I hate going to movie theaters, but that's a separate conversation. Someone's always talking and I get very grumpy. But even if I was willing to go to movie theaters, I'm torn between whether I would go see the Odyssey so that I would know or that. But you've seen it. And the critique that I saw you write on X of it, I think is very much what I would expect to feel based on what I know of the movie. But instead of just surmising. Why don't you tell everybody? Because you saw it. What do we need to know about this? This is the cultural phenomenon of the week. I think there's more conversation about this. We'll talk about Sophie Cunningham in a second. But more conversation about this in the culture than anything else right now. In short, Buck, I think Christopher Nolan ought to be ashamed of himself. And I think that all you need to know is the hipster feminist who did the modern translation of the Odyssey that Nolan based much of his script off of has come out and pointed out that essentially he reduced Odysseus into just kind of a modern whiner constantly looking for some form of affirmation and counseling for his laments and not the hero seeking after glory of the story.

If that's coming from the feminist hipster that Nolan based his interpretation off of, well... Then imagine what somebody like me who puts the fun and fundamentalist thinks of the film. It is, I was blown away, and I'm a Christopher Nolan stand. I raised a son whose dream in life until about 30 days ago was to be the next Christopher Nolan, and now he won't even go see the film. Anybody who's telling you that the Ellen Page character is a minor footnote cameo done to appease Academy voters for an Oscar is wrong. Ellen Page is basically the rosebud of the whole movie. I mean, she is the moral conscience of the film. She is driving Odysseus' conscience, the entire film. She gives him a nice, woke spirit of the age lecture from ironically hell. I mean, sometimes these people with their own wokeism can't afford stepping on their own rakes. That's right. Ellen Page speaks from hell. So that's a thing. And then, you know, at the end, when Odysseus disguises himself, to make sure his wife and son of him betrayed him, takes the name of Ellen Page's character and is out to kind of avenge her legacy, the entire film. I mean, she's, again, her character is the moral, she's in the very first scene. She's in the undercurrent of the entire film. And it's a character, by the way, it's not even in the Odyssey. My own theory is that... Originally, Ellen was cast as Achilles. And then with the entire blowback several months ago, they changed it to this other character. That's my own pet theory. And then there's this weird feminist lament that Anne Hathaway's character has about other men won't allow her to become queen. It's just, it's intentionally subversive. It's intentionally deconstructive in nature. and Odysseus abdicates his thrown at the end instead taking it as he does in the story he abdicates it in the end because he's got to go off now and sail and find himself and learn from all the terrible things he has said and done uh... it's just uh... i found the film to be frankly pathetic and i don't even think it's very good much like tenant i don't know what uh... you know this new fetish is with making films you can't understand from nolan but uh... he did this with tenant Good luck, understanding it like every fourth word of that film. The same thing is odd with this sound design. This was also with the Dark Night Rises. You guys, remember that there was originally a preview that came out of the Bain hijack scene, and so many IMAX audiences complained that they couldn't understand Bain. They had completely remixed that film before the theatrical release. So I don't know what it is. They doesn't want you to hear his movies. It's kind of weird. But the film itself, it's not good. And I think the one thing that Nolan proved is you can't make something great and woke. Because to serve the woke, you have to put in the kinds of things that undermine and deconstruct the heroism of your own characters and make them less attractive. And you've got to add all this sort of, you know, psychiatric exposition postmodernism to explain themselves that also drives away audiences. You, by the way, are hitting on something. I don't know if Buck has picked up on this. I'm...

infuriated regularly with modern day sound mixing where I can hear a jet taking off in the background or the music in the background. It is insanely loud, but you can't actually hear the dialogue that the characters are engaging in. And to me, the dialogue is the most important part, not the fact that there's ambient sound in the background. And I sound like obsessive radio guy, I understand it, audio guy. who I've made fun of in the past has to be a perfect audio experience. But I do think that we have added a lot of the depth of sound and detracted from the most important part of sound in a movie, which is what people say. Let me go to this question, and then we'll come back to Sophie Cunningham with you. Buck and I have argued that there is a wide open lane that is huge. We got billionaires who listen to this program. It takes a lot of money to make a movie. Odyssey costs $250 million, reportedly, plus how much it costs to market it, all the other attributes associated with making a successful movie. You're a big movie, buff. You just said you like Christopher Nolan. Are you with Buck and me that there is a huge lane available for somebody who would just make great movies? Like we watched in the 80s and 90s that are designed to appeal to everyone and aren't trying in any way to make a direct propagandist political statement as a part of the movie. 10,000 percent. I mean 10,000 percent. And I think what you're kind of seeing, I would argue faith-based and conservative filmmaking in the last few years. I hope my film nefarious played into this. I think what you're seeing is now we're figuring out that it's really just about telling a great story. And if you do that, then your worldview will shine through organically on its own as opposed to trying to check boxes and shoehorn in ideas. And what you're seeing, and that's why a lot of conservative and faith-based filmmaking was cheesy and failed for so many years. What you're seeing now, Clay, is on the other side, they're the ones doing it. They're the ones saying now that we don't have to tell a good story anymore. We have to check boxes. We have to make sure that all of our tropes are included, that all of our representatives and all of our various tribes feel like they had agency. And, you know, that's, I think, one of the things that we set out to do when we made nefarious was just to make the best... thriller kind of based off those 90s thrillers like Fallen, you know, like Silence of the Lambs, like Seven, with the budget we had to kind of make our best version of that. And it just so happened to contain our worldview because as filmmakers, that's our belief system. But it wasn't like we were just sitting around in a writer's room. Well, let's drop that line too. It wasn't like that. And so we're actually in the process right now of raising money for the next movie we're going to do that maybe even darker than the first film was. And I have to tell you that finding our people need to understand that we're behind in pop culture because the other side was until now, well, they still are. They're willing to lose money for their message. And I think that our people have got to determine and understand that the amount of hearts and minds you can reach with good storytelling nowadays is huge. And it's the last place left, guys, where I think people will let you.

uh... come at their world view if you entertain him and just tell him a good story that they won't do in any other venue where so many minds are made up and i i think this is kind of the undiscovered country for the american right is to realize that uh... for the bang for your buck in a relatively good chance at our i you can do way more culture shaping and shifting in the storytelling arena than you even can and directly in politics now Speaking of Steve Dase, radio host, go check out the Steve Dase show, and he can listen to the podcast of it. And Steve, Sophie Cunningham, a lot of our mail, we already had a, I would assume, unrequited marriage proposal from one of our audience members, just saying if she's listening, he will get her a ring. So she does have certainly fans in the talk radio space. But her taking this position that women's sports should be protected for women. Seems to be the most straightforward statement of the obvious imaginable, and yet it is a revolutionary act, it seems, in our current culture. What do you make of it? Well, first of all, hat tip to your co-host there, Clay. I thought he had a great observation yesterday I saw on the same day that ESPN Let's Go, which Chief Ray Spader and Ryan Clark, they published this interview with Sophie Cunningham drawing a clear line between insanity and sanity. I think the most, so that's a great observation there. I think the most important thing actually that Sophie Cunningham said is when she said, I said what I said and I stand by it in response. There is a graveyard of people who have been willing to take an initial step into just outlining sanity, and then with a modicum of pushback, have completely buckled, particularly, frankly, too many men. So for her to stand up there against the whored, the woke horde there of WNBA media, and it's not worthy of arguing. There's not even an argument, all right? So these people aren't serious thinkers. There's really nothing else to say other than, I said what I said, and I stand by it. It stands by itself that women ought to be competing against women and ought to be competing against men and everybody else who doesn't have the woke mind virus on planet Earth agrees. So I think the fact that she was willing to stand by it, guys, I think that's even more important than what she said originally. I agree with that. Last question for you. Caitlin Clark came out of Iowa. This is one that I got completely wrong. I never believed that her fame from college basketball would translate to the WMBA because frankly, it hasn't really happened before. Even you, are you surprised by the degree to which Caitlin Clark has captured so much of the nation's attention, particularly given that she's playing in the WMBA? I know because she's a magnetic personality and plays a great style of game. What has surprised me, though, I have to tell you, Clay, is how much she desires the approval of this peer group, to the point of just taking things and swallowing her own tongue and not speaking out like Sophie has and just what we were talking about. That has surprised me. And I wonder if we get to a point with her.

where where she now begins to become identified with the very forces that a lot of her fans think that she was, she's kind of been, been anointed to oppose because she greatly desires the mainstream acceptance of the very groups and the very forces that want to rank her 11th among point guards in her own league. And so I think, I think now that's the danger for Caitlin. Is it going the other way? Kind of classic, you know, does she become essentially the John Cornyn? of the WNBA, that she forget she was a senator from Texas, and she just greatly desires the Washington Post and New York Times editorial board acceptance and alienates her own base. I would be more concerned about that moving forward for Caitlin Franklin. You're giving people nightmares here, Steve, the John Cornyn of the WNBA. That is quite a thing. Outstanding stuff, Steve. We appreciate it. Keep up the good luck. Thank you, guys. Look, Buck, there's a lot of people out there that need good lawyers. And there are a lot of lawyers that will line up that can cost $1,000, $3,000 an hour. I even saw where some top lawyers are now billing $4,000 an hour. If you need a great lawyer and you're not going to be able to pay $4,000 an hour, you need to go to claytravislaw.com. We have a tremendous collection of great attorneys nationwide. We can find out if your case fits what we can do for you, doesn't cost you anything. You fill out a form, get back to you very rapidly and say, yes or no, we can handle this case. Claytravislaw.com, no cost. You do not pay for any of the legal representation. It is a contingency fee. That means that you get paid one day. The lawyer gets paid to. So no cost, even though you're going up against $1,000, $2,000, $3,000, $4,000 an hour lawyers, Claytravislaw.com taking care of so many people who need great representation to go up against. the expensive high-powered lawyers that otherwise are out there. Again, go check it out, fill it out, no cost, claytravislaw.com. Miss the show while you're on the go? Wind down your day with the daily review podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Life moves fast. At American Military University, they're ready to help you keep up. AMU's flexible, affordable online programs in cybersecurity, IT, space studies, and more are designed for service members, veterans, and their families. AMU provides the support you need to take the next step, wherever life takes you. American Military University, made for what's next. Learn more at amu.apus.edu. Across America, advanced technology is working behind the scenes, strengthening our nation. It protects our war fighters, advances life-saving health care, combats cyber threats, and defends the critical infrastructure that keeps our country moving. At GDIT, we power the systems that help America operate, connect, and stay secure. Every hour, every mission, every day. GDIT, behind America's invisible advantage.

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