Hour 2 - Democrats Double Down on Failure

This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome back in. Hour number two, Friday edition of the program. We are rolling through a huge number of different stories. Again, the biggest breaking news, I would say, the DNC has just decided. that the first four states that they are going to have primaries in, Michigan, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada. We bring in Ann Coulter. I don't know if you'd seen that news that just popped in the last 10 minutes or so. Do you have any strong read on what Democrats are going to try to do? I know the midterms are coming up in a couple of months, but... This is going to start the tongues wagging a little bit. South Carolina, presumably very strong for Kamala Harris. New Hampshire, very strong, according to recent polls for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Mayor Pete. Michigan, Mayor Pete lives there. Is it too early to start handicapping things? Or now that those four states we know are the first four, does anything come to your mind? It's definitely too early to handicap anything. We don't even know who's running. I do think that by starting with South Carolina in Democratic primaries, that is heavily, heavily black Democrats. And New Hampshire, which doesn't, I mean, even the Democrats in New Hampshire, I don't think are big on the Democratic Socialists of America. And I assume the powers that be in the Democratic Party don't want to front load it with a lot of DSA types. So. That's all I notice about that. They're trying to, oh, and by the way, black Democrats hate wokeness way more than white Democrats. Yeah, the wokeest are always, it's always the prototypical white sort of second tier school, but masters in irrelevant degree that dyes their hair purple, joins Antifa and tries to, you know, throw rocks at ice or cops or whatever. So we've definitely seen that play out a lot. But in terms of the dynamic within the Democrat Party right now and going, we've got the midterm, so people are paying more attention to this. I'm going to pay a lot more as it gets just weeks away. The left is ascendant right now. Zohran Mamdani seems to be the Democrat who gets more ink, so to speak, than anybody else. Is that just a now thing, or do you think that's part of what, who's actually calling the shots going forward? I never know the answer to anything involving the Democrats. I think they're completely crazy. But it seems to me looking in from the outside that the places where people like Zohran Mamdani are winning are not really representative, certainly not of the country. No one.

There is not an expression as New York City goes, so goes the country. And I don't think even particularly representative of the Democratic Party, though, I guess we'll find out. I think there are a few issues that are driving the socialists in the Democratic Party, and probably the biggest one is foreign policy. So it's unfortunate that Trump... changed his mind on what his position on foreign policy was, which was no new wars, and then gets us in a lot of new wars, including one that seems to be never-ending, and is, to quote Democrats on all the wars we win, unwinnable. So I think Republicans could really crush the socialist aspect of the Democratic Party if they went back to their more pacifist roots. And this is probably going to get people fired up in the comments. We now are on YouTube every day, Ann, and so you can watch both Buck and myself and you on video as well. If President Trump asked you, what should I do on Iran, you would say what? Would you just say, just cut and run at this point? There is no benefit to being there. What would your advice be particularly given what we're sitting here three, four months away from the midterm and gas prices being up, no matter, you don't have to be a genius to know that people don't like paying more for gas. What would you tell them at this point? It's a disaster. It's been a disaster from the beginning. And basically two weeks in, what I'd recommend the same thing I am recommending now, declare victory and get out. Just come to any deal. It doesn't matter. Don't worry. We will back you up. We'll tell you it's a great deal. You've done a fantastic job. We're so glad you bombed Iran. Now, please just stop. let the strait of more moves get opened, let gas prices go down, and try not to absolutely destroy the midterms for Republicans. When that happens, very, very, very bad things happen when Democrats have control, especially a large supermajority control of the House and the Senate. Now, maybe they won't get that, but this is the strongest issue for them. Yeah, it is concerning seeing some of the polling end to be sure. How are we doing on deportations? How's the immigration situation? We've given Trump lots of credit here. We continue to you for securing the border. Did that right away. Great. Interior enforcement, though, we had 10 plus million illegals coming to the country under Biden. Everyone, even our friend Bill Maher has admitted that that is crazy that they did that, but they did it. Now we're being told, I think it's... I don't know, 300,000 or something this year. And I'm looking at the clock and I'm saying, okay, well, we're halfway through the year. How is this going? What could change? What do you think needs to happen?

Well, I don't want to criticize the administration. I think they're doing the best they can, but it needs to be more. You're definitely right. It needs to be more. Who knows if we'll ever get this opportunity again? And I mean, it's crazy that Democrats, and I might add some Republicans, spend all this time bringing in tens of millions of illegal aliens. And as I said in a tweet this week, it was 30 million back in 2005. This is explained in Adios America. It was absolutely minimum 30 million illegal aliens 20 years ago. Who knows what the number is now. What would you guess? And I got to ask you, what would you guess that the number is now? I mean, you've looked at this a lot for quite some time. Like, what do you think the number is? Well, minimum $40 million. There are ways of calculating this. People, I think, should probably be growing suspicious that they've been claiming it's $11 million for the past 50 years. And it's never budged. Not one more illegal alien has come in. And so the things I cite in the book that you can look up yourself is first a couple of Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists spent a year invested in Bartlett and Steele. They have their own entry in Wikipedia, very famous investigative insurance spent it. journals they spent a year investigating the border in 2005 and concluded then then three million were coming in a year then a couple of analysts same year at bear sterns did an analysis to advise people on things that matter to their money something very important they looked at remittances what immigrants and illegal immigrants, most of all, sent back to the home country. They looked at the number of housing permits and school graduation rates in illegal immigrants enclaves. I don't know if it was they or someone else pointed out back around then, early 2000s. Our census said there were about 8,000, I don't know a few thousand. I don't know if it was 8,000. Brazilians. in New York City. But both the Brazilian consulate and its embassy concluded there were hundreds of thousands of Brazilians just in New York, which is to say we have no idea. They're minimizing it as much as they can. And you can't just let them move it in and millions in and have it be a ratchet effect where they move in. 20 million in four or five years, and we can only deport 100,000 a year. This is a ratchet effect. We never, ever, ever can win that way. All the resources of the federal government ought to be going to deporting illegal aliens, and I might add, not starting pointless, endless wars. What are you optimistic about? Is there any? There we go. Is there anything out there on the horizon? I didn't get to talk to you. I don't think since the birthright citizenship decision came down. But I actually was somewhat encouraged, as you well know, through the law, a lot of times dissents are written that end up emerging as the predominant decision, 20, 30, 40 years, as we've seen a lot of times.

There we go. 10 million views on that buck. What is the overall consensus? Is it mostly positive? Like, as you can assess, what would you say the take is from those? It can react to this. It is hilarious. 100% of guys are like, absolutely. They're like, ladies don't cut your hair. Every husband, every boyfriend, every straight guy that's weighing in, the ladies don't cut your hair. And then I'd say it's 80-20 because there's someone who are like, But what about, you know, and I'm like, I'm trying to do you a favor, ladies. I'm trying to do you a favor, however long your hair can be. And, you know, and then people are like, what about if somebody has a medical issue? I'm like, we're not talking people with medical issues, okay? I'm talking to somebody who went into a salon and paid some guy in Turkey like 500 euro to chop off all of her hair and it has gone mega viral. Not a good idea. Anne approves. And Queen Anne has weighed in, Clay. So there we go. Yeah, we'll have to get into tattoos next time. Oh, by the way, as we get ready for the break, do you engage in a big way in pop culture? Like, when's the last time you went to a movie theater? Well, this week I went to the opera and a Yankees game. Do either of those count? That's a pretty good stretch out there. I was just curious if you had a take on the Odyssey. Everybody's weighing in on the Odyssey. Like, do you engage in a story like that? I think it's going to be a complete bore PC nonsense. I would never see it in a million years. And from people I respect who have actually taken the trouble to watch it, that's what they say. It's no fun. There's no fun involved. And it's not, it's not, it's a slog to sit through is what I have read from reviewers. I trust. There is always fun on Anculture substack guys. Go follow. Go check it out. Unsafe. on substack and follow her obviously on X. Ms. Coulter, always great to see you. Thanks for being here. Good to see you. Thank you. Bye-bye. Look, I want to tell you how many of you, thank you to Ann Coulter. How many of you out there have too high of a balance on your credit cards right now? I bet a huge number of people out there. In fact, credit card balances I saw are near record highs and it probably pains you. You look at that credit card balance. It's over way higher than you want it to be. And you're paying interest rates over 20% usually. Do you own a home? Would you like to put your financial house in order? If so, you need to go to Perfect 10 mortgage. Why Perfect 10? You give them 10 minutes, fill out a form, doesn't cost you anything at all. Within 10 days, we can close. It's an incredible, fast way to put your financial house in order. In fact, some of you are already in the process of closing. We just started doing ads for this company on Monday of last week. They've already got people in the process of closing on these mortgages. You guys have gone. Perfect 10 mortgage, 10 minutes. They can close in as few as 10 days. Already, some of you out there listening are closing, getting great deals, and you're wiping out all of your debt. They'll shoot you straight, let you know what makes sense. You can pay off those high interest credit card, personal loans, roll everything into one simple monthly payment, one payment, one due date.

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because South Carolina winning means their support for it. We'll talk about it. We come back. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Meat lovers, you're in luck today. Good Ranchers delivers American-grown premium quality steaks and burgers. They got a great summertime deal for you. Look, my family's already on this. We enjoyed the taste and quality of good ranchers just last weekend, but I've been eating good ranchers for two years now. Good ranchers partners with local farmers and ranchers to deliver 100% American meat straight to you. It's great tasting protein. It's just better than what you'll find in the supermarket. And the livestock is pasture raised, no antibiotics, no added hormones. So this is what you want to be enjoying sitting around with your family at the table. All comes to you and especially created shipping box. Keep your items exactly where they need to be. So they arrive fresh. This month they're celebrating 50 states with $50 off your first order. Go to good ranchers.com. Use my name Buck as your promo code at checkout to get $50 off. Good Ranchers.com promo code buck for $50 off. That's good ranchers.com promo code buck. American meat delivered. Welcome back in Clay and Buck. All right. Kamala Harris, you're hearing it here first. South Carolina primary champion Kamala Harris. Just announced South Carolina will have the first primary of the 28 Democrat cycle. A couple of things that will break down about why that's significant. Again, that news just coming down. The McLaughlin Group Democrat primary cross tabs. This also just came out a couple of hours ago. Black Democrat voters. 47% Kamala Harris. Gavin Newsom, 13%. This is the one that's staggering to me, Buck. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 4%. Hmm. Then Mayor Pete, congratulations to Mayor Pete Hegseth is surging up to 3% support among black primary voter Democrats. And then Mark Kelly at 2%. Kamala Harris also leads, according to this poll, white Democrats and Hispanic Democrats. She leads 18 to 54-year-olds substantially with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in second place. But the thing that really kind of stands out to me here in this poll buck is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is pretty well known at this point in time. She is not in any way resonating with black voters. which to me is a bit intriguing. Gavin Newsom is. I don't know what that's based on, but he is way behind Kamala Harris, but he's in second place. White Democrats, Kamala Harris 1, Gavin Newsom 2, Mayor Pete, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and then Mark Kelly. So Mark Kelly to me is kind of the... Kind of the dark horse here. Now, why does South Carolina being first matter? It beat Nevada. I think this is a sign that there are still a lot of Kamala Harris loyalist inside of the DNC. Because if you are Kamala Harris, you overwhelmingly want South Carolina to be number one because it gets you off in a good foot. Let's do this. Let's step into this for a second. We're going to be Kamala Harris's messaging and PR team here for a minute.

The story that Kamala Harris, and this is in her book, of course, or the book that was written for her, the story is that she was loyal to Biden, that she never saw anything herself that made her think that he couldn't finish out his term, and it wasn't her place to try to push a sitting president aside, and that she stepped up with a shortened schedule. in the midst of an embarrassing moment for the Democrat Party overall and took all the slings and arrows and came within 250,000 votes, spread over a handful of states of winning that election despite starting a few laps behind, so to speak, in the race. Yes. So that is her narrative. It is not a unworkable narrative. The part of Kamala Harris that I think is going to run into some trouble is she is not a good campaigner and she is not a good politician. But name recognition, former vice president, it's going to be interesting. You are counting out handsome Gavin, I think, way too quickly in all this. Yeah, I know. You don't even think he's really in the conversation in a meaningful way. Look, so a couple of things. I think Kamala Harris could follow the Trump example and say everybody knows everything they need to know about me. I'm going to go talk to the American public. I'm going to be out there and I am going to make my case to voters. I don't need to be in the primary. So I think that is a possibility that could be floating around out there. Gavin to me, Buck. has a little bit of a Kamala Harris problem, which is the more time people spend watching him, I think the more oliginous he appears to be, the more unctuous, the less likable of a candidate he is. And I do believe that that starts to become an issue for him. Now, let me hit you with this. The first four states, we know South Carolina is going to be one. New Hampshire, if I'm Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, I'm thinking to myself, okay, that's a state where I can make Bernie won it a lot of times. I can win that state. I'm going to tell you this. I think. For Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the play is just have a really good showing. She is young for the role of president. Yeah. By constitution. I mean, she is, I think just a year over, maybe two years over the 35 minimum age. So she is, now, it's an interesting question. I know a lot of you're like, but fuck, you know, look how old Thomas Jefferson was and at the founding and George Washington was the oldest at like 40 in 17. I know, I know, but. You know, people might think that there's an experience gap relative. We've gotten used to our presidents being white-haired guys in their 60s, basically. You know, that's maybe they're 50s. Think about it. I said this on the show, but it is kind of a crazy coincidence. Trump, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton were all born in the same year, 1946. Yeah. What are the odds of that? I mean, it's kind of within a few, I think within six months of each other, three, what is that?

24 years, basically, of presidents since 2000, since 1992, have all been born in the same year. I want to get to this because I want to remind people that I've been saying this all along, so that'll hopefully cancel out my crazy combos and I'm going to run take, which is that I think the... the odds that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez becomes a vice president. She is a perfect vice president for any Democrat who would be running because she brings the left crazy enthusiasm but keeps it under control. She's got the optics of being attractive. She's a Latino woman, a wise Latina, all that stuff, young, getting ready for the next year. You could write the press release in 30 seconds or have AI do it for you. about why Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a perfect vice president for Gavin, for Kamala Harris, for any of them. I don't think that she's top job likely, but if she, you know, right, it then becomes so easy for her to create that coalition moment where if she wins, say, New Hampshire, or if she comes in first or second, whoever, let's say it's Kamala Harris, just to make you happy, it's driving me nuts. But let's say it's Kamala Harris. If Kamala Harris is the lead role, she says, you know, let's. let's unite forces. I'm not going to drag this thing out longer than I have to, but she'll bring some enthusiasm, probably some Latina support to Kamala Harris's banner. So, yeah, I think that that's the way that this likely goes. By the way, also it would bring the Bernie machine behind Kamala Harris. And if the Bernie machine gets behind Kamala Harris, it's game over. I mean, she wins. She wins the whole thing, I think. I don't think Gavin Newsom can split the Democrat establishment wing and then have Bernie go with Kamala Harris and have Gavin come out ahead. The other state that jumps out to me, Michigan. Why does that jump out? Obviously, it's the only real swing state in the first four. But Buck, this makes the... Arab, Muslim versus Jewish dynamics of the Democrat Party, impossible to ignore because the Dearborn area in southeast Michigan has basically the largest Muslim population per capita. I think it's anywhere in the United States. And so how do you thread that needle for the Democrats? We've talked about the fact that the party increasingly turns their back on everyone that is in any way, you know, related to the Jewish faith. I think that's a tension. I'm a little bit surprised that they put Michigan in there, but to me it looks like the most wide open of all these states because I can make you an argument. that South Carolina's off the board basically with Kamala Harris. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, I think, is going to be very favorably disposed given the Bernie backing, presuming she runs in New Hampshire. Nevada also, I should have said, is a swing state as well, but it's been one where Bernie has traditionally done really, really well. So I would think that would be helpful for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Also, obviously, has a big Hispanic population. Michigan feels like the one where you don't really know.

of those four where it could go. Do we still have Tommy in Michigan, guys? Speaking of Michigan, is he with us still? I know he was a minute ago. Yes. All right, let's take Tommy in Michigan. He wants to weigh in on his stay. What's going on, Tommy? How's going, fellas? Hey, first off, Clay, you got to stay off TV, man. My wife, I'm trying to steal my wife, bro. But aside from that. Nobody's talking about Michigan and Gretchen Whitmer, who is wildly, wildly popular here. Yeah. Nobody's thinking about Mayor Pete at all in Michigan. Thank you for the call. I think that's... George Shaw's back candidate, and rumor has it that that's who Biden wanted originally, but because she was a woman, but she was not a woman of color, but she's on. Thank you for the call. Tell your wife, I appreciate her being a fan. Sorry for trying to steal her from you. The buck, if you look at Michigan, Mayor Pete has moved to Traverse City, northern Michigan area, awesome, beautiful place. So he's in the state. Some people have said that felt calculated because obviously he was formerly in South Bend, Indiana, and now he's moved into Michigan, which is a big toss-up state. Gretchen Whitmer said up at McAnaw Island for a big event that they did there that she was not going to run in 2028. Now, it's early. She could obviously change her mind, but she has said publicly that she was not going to run. Of course, she's term limited out. There's an open election for the governor of Michigan. We will see whether or not she stands by that. To me, she feels like a VP candidate. She should have, she would have been a much better VP candidate, I think, than certainly Tim Walz was. But that's worth paying attention to, to be certain. we will keep an eye on all of these things we will be looking out we'll take your calls take your talkbacks maybe even some pithy comments from the youtube live stream by the way if you haven't checked us out yet on youtube please do we are there clay and buck we are streaming um you want to have a family feel good moment coming up Find your old family movies that you recorded on videotape 20 years ago and share them with the entire family. If you've been storing those aging cassettes in the attic or basement, now is the time to get them together and send them into Legacy Box. Based in Tennessee, we love Legacy Box. They digitally transfer that old media onto the new media that you can actually watch on your smart TV, your iPhone, or your Samsung, or whatever you're carrying these days. Legacy Box started doing this more than 15 years ago. Keeping alive those memories is what motivates the 200 plus technicians working at Legacy Box to hand transfer your family memories from the old videotapes, films, and photos you send to them. They've done it now for 2 million families, including mine and clays. When you send your old media to Legacy Box, they treat them like the rare and important, sentimental items they are.

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I don't think that Kamala Harris has people wearing her merch either. There's not merchandise. There's not, she's not somebody that people can be enthusiastic. Obama people were fired up about. They have not had a candidate that people were really fired up about. since 2008, 2012. And, you know, Hillary, for whatever you want to say about Hillary, people were not in love with Hillary. There were a lot of women of Hillary's generation who I do think were felt like saw, yeah, saw herself and Hillary's assent, the ultimate glass ceiling, all that stuff, right? So I think that there was. And the Clinton brand was a brand. I'm with her. Certainly there was never Biden. I don't think there's any real enthusiasm for Kamala Harris. I think you're right. And I do think this thing could drag a while, which is why I'm saying black voters staying behind Kamala Harris and supporting her. Black women in particular, I think it's going to be hard to dislodge that unity. I think it's, by the way, I'm going to bring Gavin, I'm going to bring Gavin into the chat, so to speak here, Gavin Newsom. I think it's very, I think he says, when he's running, Clay, he says, what did Kamala Harris do for you? He looks at the black community, so to speak. He speaks to them and says, what did Kamala Harris do for you when she was vice president? Did she do anything for you? Why would you go with her again? You know? I, Gavin Newsom, will deliver. Now, you and I, and maybe all the black Democrat voters will laugh, but it's a pitch. It's a pitch that he can make. I don't think that Kamala Harris has anything she could point to that she has done for the black community while she was vice president. Now, she'll say I'm vice president, not president. But, you know, I see more openings. Stat that blows people away a little bit. Do you know what percentage of the population in California is black? like seven or something it's not big i think it's eight but yeah like i think a lot of people think as california oh it has a large black population it actually has a tiny black population relative to a lot of southern states um and i think that's one reason why Kamala Harris when she was in california often said oh i'm of indian descent and played that up as more as much or more than being black final hour the week next