Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jul 24 2026

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome, everybody, Friday edition of Clay and Buck. The best. Some people are saying the best of all shows, of all streams, of all podcasts. You're beautiful. You know that. So we have a lot to talk about today. We've got Trump at the EPA. The Dodgers, who are a baseball team, go to the White House. They were formerly the Brooklyn Dodgers, I believe. Now, that's pretty good knowledge by you. Thank you. Thank you. I know New York stuff. Way out in Los Angeles. More on the Democratic Socialist takeover of the Democrat Party. Our good friend Megyn Kelly weighs in on an ancient feud of sorts. which Clay can explain to all of you in a bit because it's a Friday, so we are going to have a particularly large amount of fun on this show. Not much to talk about on the Iran thing other than the specifics of the tactical back and forth on what they're blown up, what we're blowing up and all that. That's still going on, so that's obviously not fun to talk about category, but important news. I wanted to dive into this. I was riveted this morning. As I was watching, preparing for the show and watching Elon Musk sit down with almost a caricature of a snooty left-wing British journalist who's the editor-in-chief of the economist, which is a thing that people subscribe to so they can tell people so they think that they're smart. Not really very interesting for the most part. Elon Musk did sit down with them. And Clay, I thought of all of, there was a lot of great stuff. but cut one here he seemed talking about because she comes after him as being somehow far right or enabling the far right listen to Elon Musk discuss not just for America but for Western civilization the reality of the political shift of the last decade or so play it my political views are very are centrist they're not far right And frankly, calling a far right, I think, is an insult. to history and insult to many peoples, and it is an outrageous falsehood. It's completely absurd. I literally have stated my position, which is that, and I've been very clear about this, which is that there need to be secure borders, that if there's an influx of immigrants, they need to be people who will agree with Western ideals, with Western values. And if they don't, and if there's a long-term...

growth of people who do not, or in some cases are adamantly opposed to Western values. You are setting yourself up for civil war. This is obvious. A child can see this. But this is not a right wing view. I'm simply stating reality. Clay, very straightforward. He's saying whether it's the UK or the United States, bringing in millions of people without any care at all as to whether they, one, come legally, to... have any affinity for our culture, our history, our language, our people already here is a slow-moving suicide. And it couldn't be more obvious, but the elites of Western civilization, for as long as you and I have been alive, have been selling everybody down the river on this one. They have betrayed Western civilization. Elon Musk sees it, loud and clear. Look, I watched this interview too, and I give Elon Musk credit here because I always would like people to listen to interviews in totality. So I would encourage all of you to go listen to it in totality. I think what is particularly difficult for leftists to handle is what he says, I believe in cut two, that he's actually just totally normal. And we can't have normalcy in the country until normal people are actually making decisions. And I like this cut too. Really, when you go and look at everything that Elon Musk believes, what a lot of you believe, what a lot of I believe, a lot of what Buck believes, it was considered very middle of the road opinions for much of our lives until we ended up in this world where suddenly everything gets classified. as far right opinions. This is cut too. You support not just the populist right, but the far right. In fact, very fringe parties in some countries. No, I support the normal people. Okay. What do you call the far right falsely? You think is the normal? Yes. Literally, you could go back 10 or 15 years, and these policies were completely normal. In fact, you, one of the, one of the tricks that I think is funny. What I think is quite funny is to, like, take a speech from Obama. and Hillary, and then go to someone and say, who's sort of, you know, on the sort of what I call the lunatic left and say, what do you think of the speech by Trump? Like, oh, wow, he's the worst person ever. Actually, that was a speech by Obama or actually that was a speech by Hillary. Literally. No, I agree that the center of gravity in this country has shifted, certainly the Democratic Party shifted to the left, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people like Rupert Lowe. I'm talking about people. It's actually just normal people. I like that he keeps hammering it, by the way. It's just normal people. They want to talk about other things, Clay, but actually normal people do agree on this. I also feel, and I don't know if you feel this way, too, the power of trying to silence someone by saying you're racist is just over. And Elon Musk, this left-wing reporter tries to say, well, people, first of all, people say, I hate when people. use questions and say some people say some might say give me a specific person who is saying it but she says people say that you're racist uh cut five uh Elon Musk responds people say that you're a racist what is the motivation for doing that is my partner is um she's half Indian and my my is and I have four children with her you know um one of them was named after an

a famous Indian physicist. So I would say I'm not racist. And also the, you know, if you look at the people that are employed at my companies, you know, we have senior executives of all races. There's, there's, there's, I don't think there's any racism there. I just think the fact that what you're starting to see, and Buck, I like this one too because it, to me, echoed what Sophie Cunningham said and frankly what I felt for a long time, asked why people don't like him. First of all, like, where do we ever live in a world where everyone should love you? If you're opinionated, everybody doesn't have to love you, and that's okay. I mean, imagine she sat down with Kamala Harris. Yes. And one of her questions was a lot of people think you're incredibly stupid. How do you react to that? Because that's true. You could ask that. But I like that Elon Musk responds to this with the disdain that it deserves. A lot of people don't like you. What is it? They don't know him. And what they think about him that they don't like isn't even true. So. What a dumbass question from some fancy pants lady who grew up rich in the UK and now wants to pretend that they haven't completely sold out the British and American civilization by opening the borders to people who come here and then exploit, who come here and then are lawless. Here it is cut six. But I think this is a good response in general. I mean, it's social media. You put anything on social media. People get in the mentions and they're angry. And I think a lot of people out there who are listening to us, you've probably experienced it on Facebook or Instagram or Twitter. You post something that you think is relatively innocuous and immediately YouTube. Come subscribe for us. People want to argue with you. Strangers out there reacting to what you might say. Here is Elon Musk responding to that, I think, in a pretty healthy way, cut sick. I mean, some people do loathe you? Yes, some people do. But do you understand why? Do you think what you're doing is helpful for Western democracy? Maybe some people do with me. And that's probably true. I don't care. But the fact that, as you pointed out, a quarter billion people follow me is that I think a lot more people actually like me than don't. And I think a lot more people hate you and the media more than you realize. I think that's completely true, by the way. It's a good pivot, too, by the way. Yeah, I mean, the economist is full of smug people with very little... to show for their many, many years of propping up sort of left-wing internationalism and multilateralism and all this. It's not actually something that they should be particularly proud of. It's really very much like the New York Times, coasting on a previously snooty and erudite reputation that was never really deserved and particularly not deserved in an era where they pretend like these aren't problems. Also, Clay, we didn't even, I don't think we got into this. We could pull this.

She said things that are, because I really watched this interview, and I thought Elon Musk just did fantastically well in the whole thing. She said there's not a single city in America that is safer than London. The first city that came to mind for me when I'm thinking about a safe city, by the way, a very large safe city with San Antonio, London is. twice the crime rate, twice the crime rate of San Antonio, Texas. That's just one city that I happen to check on. So when she says things like there's not a single city in America, not only there are a lot of cities in America that are safer than London, there are a lot of cities that are really, I mean, there are cities that are large that have over a million people that are safer than London. I would also point out, The overall murder rate in the United States is collapsing yet again. And I think in your home state of Florida, the murder rate in Miami is, I believe, tiny. I thought I saw the other day, team, will you look this up, that Orlando has zero unsolved murders so far this year? I mean, it's an extraordinary degree of safety in the state of Florida. But it's actually this morning I was reading in Axios and I flagged it because, again, it's a pretty extraordinary story. Homicides are on track buck to hit their lowest rate in more than 125 years because last year was the lowest murder rate ever. The 30 largest city so far this year are showing a nearly 20 percent. additional drop in murders off of the all-time low that was set this year. Listen to this buck. Carjackings down 51% since 2019. Robberies down 41%. Homicides down 31%. Gun assaults down 17%. Sexual assaults down 13%. Domestic violence, aggravated assault also down. That's all according to Axios. One thing that you never hear anymore, you know what's... occurred as the murder rate has collapsed, the number of people with guns has skyrocketed in this country. You don't hear very many people arguing anymore. You know that phrase gun violence, which completely takes out all individual responsibility for the violence? They tried to turn it into, oh, gun violence. Oh, the gun shot someone with no one else. The number of guns on the streets has never been higher, yet the overall murder rate and violent crime rate is collapsing to the lowest level since the 1800s. But I thought that's all really important data for our perspective, but also, Clay, Here's a woman from the, she's the editor-in-chief of the economist. So, you know, put her right alongside, the editor-in-chief of the New York Times, the editor-in-chief of the Washington Post, and she's a fancy British lady who went to public, which is their version of private school all through her life, the whole thing, she has the accent, all this. And she's telling Elon Musk that he is misinformed while she is saying things that are flatly untrue about her own country.

For example, when she's talking about how there's not a single city, as I said, that's just not, that's not true. There were 13,994 knife-related offenses in London in 2025, Clay. 13,000, basically 14,000, 14,000 knife crimes. Stabbings, robberies, et cetera, it's, you know, people that are possessing the weapon illegally, all of these things. That's a 154 knife enabled offenses per 100,000 people in London. She ignores this data. to talk about how London's so safe and everything's fine, because she's a rich lady who lives in rich areas and goes to her country home and appears on, you know, American television and has no idea what that. But isn't interesting, she's there to lecture Elon Musk about he doesn't see reality, but she has no idea what she's talking about. Yeah, again, we'll come in and we'll continue to take calls. I thought that he did a really good job in this interview. It's a cover story in The Economist. Buck, a little bit of a preview. I think Elon Musk is setting the table to merge Tesla and SpaceX. I think that might even happen before the end of the year, which would create the largest company in the history of the world, even more so than what he's already built. And that's what also kind of stood out to me. Why is he doing an interview with the economist? What's he setting the table for? We got some interesting AI quotes from him, too, that I thought were intriguing. But I want to tell you, you know, if Elon Musk merges SpaceX and Tesla, you know what that's going to do? It's going to get a lot of lawyers, a lot of money. Because I bet Elon Musk's top lawyers, I bet they are billing $5,000 or more per hour. That's the top echelon lawyers. that are the most highly paid, the most highly compensated. You know why he pays $5,000 an hour? Maybe more. Some of these guys now are getting $10,000 an hour. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. I'm a lawyer, too, and I can't believe these guys are getting paid because he wants the absolute best legal representation. You probably can't afford $1,000, $2,000, $5,000, $10,000 an hour. Hardly any of us can. But if you need to fight, you need the best lawyers that you can find. for normal people. That's why we founded claytravislaw.com nationwide, best lawyers that can represent you anywhere. You go to the website, fill it out, and we will get back to you quickly, let you know, hey, can we take care of you? Can we put you in touch with the best possible lawyers out there? Claytravislaw.com. You can save it in your phones. You can write it down. Never know when you're going to need it. Claytravislaw.com. You need the lawyers that can fight for you up against those high paid attorneys from all of these great, huge companies that are going to pay massive amounts of money. We need the best legal representation out there. Claytravislaw.com is that website. I've been a lawyer for over 20 years, putting you in touch with the best lawyers out there, claytravislaw.com.

laugh, learn, and hang with the guys. Clay and Buck. Preset on the iHeart app. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We're really enjoying this Elon Musk discussion. I think it's important to also put into context here. Clay mentioned the internet before. And, you know, we have something, there's something very unique, Clay, about the two of us, other than being patriots with... melodic voices and great hair and, you know, all those good things. We come from a generation of people who existed pre-internet, post-internet, came of age right around the time. So we were in our youth, you know, teenagers, AOL, all this sort of stuff. So we kind of bridged these two worlds in a sense, right? We were the first ones to grow up. with email becoming a thing or the first ones to grow up. But we remember, like a lot of kids that now are, you know, 20 years old or whatever, they're like, I don't, there was a world before email and cell phones and everything. So we are just at that inflection point. And I do believe that AI right now, and this is not some bold theory. I think a lot of people who are following very closely think this as well. That's why there's trillions, literal trillions of dollars going into this, whether it's an investment or infrastructure or all these things. I think that we're at that phase where, like, everybody has an AOL account, you've got mail. And, like, they're starting to see that this is a thing, but it's still very early days, right? So it's here. It's changing things. But we're just beginning to get a sense of how massive the change will be. You want to... Yeah, so this is my theory, and I'm curious if you will sign off or if you think there's any legitimacy to it. A lot of talk about data centers, lots of costs about, as we talked about yesterday, the energy use that data centers require water. And you pointed out that it's still a pinprick compared to what... Golf courses, for instance, across. Don't mess with people's golf courses, buddy. You want to see older guys with the disposable income and time on their hands get ticked off. Don't mess with their golf courses. I will say that the growth of AI data centers has destroyed all the talk about how we have to limit energy use and everything else, right? It's just all kind of vanished. But if you remember, and I'm sure many of you out there do, The rollout of the internet, I was in college when I got my first email address, Buck. I never had a computer at home. We didn't have the internet at home when I went off to college in 1997. I remember getting my first email address and being blown away as a college kid with what the internet was capable of doing and how awesome it was. And...

If you remember, there was a company called, you may remember this, I'm sure some of you will. It's a company called Global Crossing. Now, there were a lot of different companies out there. Pets.com is one of the ones that people remember. If you put a dot com in your email, in your business plan back in the day, your stock would skyrocket the next day, not dissimilar in some ways to AI today. And the idea behind Global Crossing was, they were going to be basically the pipes that carried the internet, the micro, the fiber that would be laid everywhere that would allow the internet to be carried. And the idea was, this is the way to guarantee that you make money because you won't know, and the truth of the matter is the Amazon.coms of the world ended up devouring much of our economy, right, in a very positive way, shipping. and AI and everything else there. But everybody said the safest bet you could have is global crossing because you're going to be the wires that just provide the infrastructure of the internet. The infrastructure. Yes. And unfortunately, not to jump to the end of Clay's Tale here, which is very true and worth remembering, there was a massive overbuilding of. broadband telecommunications infrastructure right around 2000 leading into the crash instead of waiting to see how much we needed as we went people just started laying this stuff everywhere massive amounts of borrowing and revenue couldn't keep up because we actually didn't need as much internet broadband as they thought at that time So my question for people out there, history doesn't usually repeat at rhymes, oftentimes. This leads to the dot-com bubble just to be, sorry. That led to the dot-com bubble because, and by the way, the internet ended up having a truly transformative impact on society at large. Everybody who told you the internet was going to change everything was right. But we overbuilt and there was a crash associated with it. I'm just putting it out there. Is AI compute, the overall data centers that we're building, is it possible that it's going to cost much less than what people anticipate and the economy is getting overheated on AI much like it did with the internet? Would you buy yourself? The global crossing example is a fascinating one because you could have been 100% right about the impact of the internet and how transformative was going to be. And that company went from, I think, $50 billion to bankrupt in the space of a couple of years. I'm wondering what's going to happen. Could that repeat itself with AI? Well, there's definitely right now one of the reasons we're thinking about this. It's summer. This stuff tends to happen in the summer. You tend to have a sell-off a little bit in the market. It's going to happen. But, you know, between the energy. situation right now global oil and natural gas but you have not only continued instability in the strait of Hormuz you also now have the Bob al-Mandab straight which is on the other side of the Arabian Peninsula

You have that also now as a choke point of sorts because the Houthis of Yemen on behalf of Iran are now using drones and trying to cause havoc for ships. Remember, they don't have to blow up a super tanker. They just have to make ships feel unsafe and get the insurance rates to skyrocket to cause really serious problems. So, Clay, you've got that going on. You've also got a sense that maybe. the AI surge that has been the reason the economy, at least from a market perspective, has been doing as well as it has, that is leading ahead of some of the benefits that you and I are expecting from all of this. Yes. This is why the internet analogy, I think, is sticking out in a lot of people's minds because, okay, you have email, that's inefficiency, but you were still quite a ways away from... being able to zoom into your meeting at work, being able to order anything you want. Remember, it was just books to start out on Amazon. There was a lot that had to get done before. And we're a little ways away, I think, from some of the massive productivity. Well, I know we are from some of the massive productivity increases that AI will bring. And that might mean that there's a bit of a pullback in the investment. This is all one big way of saying, Things could get a little rocky here at an unfortunate time for those who want this to always be a politics first show, which I think is really the mission that handed down from Rush. Unfortunate timing for the midterms, if you have oil at $100 a barrel and you have a sense that the AI stock market sell-off is happening a little bit because, like we've been saying to you, this is going to affect truly everything. Not just the sell-off, I mean the AI revolution. Go ahead. Yeah, no, no, this is also why timing the stock market is virtually impossible. Um, for those of you out there who look, if you miss the wrong days, the number of people who say, hey, I'm going to sell and you get out at the exact right time and then you buy back in at the exact right time is very difficult. It's hard to predict the future. Nobody knows exactly. Nobody can do it. Nobody can do it efficiently. Yeah. Over time, you're going to get nine or 10% if you just stick to the S&P 500, right? So, uh, I do think there's a little bit of an echo and, Some of you are way smarter on AI than either Buck or myself are. Some of you probably are in the data center business. I do remember reading back in the day, the safest company to invest in was Global Crossing because you didn't have to pick the winners of the internet. You didn't have to know back in 1999 that Amazon.com was going to end up being the Leviathan that it did, this Goliath that took over so much of retail in all facets across the world. And you could just buy the infrastructure.

and you end up buying the infrastructure, the cost of compute for the internet collapsed. Buck, do you remember, it used to be kind of expensive to get on the internet. You would get certain hours of time when you got those discs from AOL. You had a certain amount of time that you could actually be logged on to the internet and your hours, and then you had to buy more. And now, I mean, I don't even hear anybody talk hardly at all about what it costs to get on the internet. It is comparatively very affordable. Remember how long it took to download a picture? You know, now you can download, you know, three-hour movies almost instantaneously. What people thought was going to come from the Internet, I would say circa 1997-98, right around there. What they thought the Internet was going to do, generally speaking, was correct. But it really took... Depending on what you're talking about, another 10, 15 years before it was seamless, ubiquitous, and all of that happened. And so the investment front ran the reality. And there could be some of that right now with AI with these data centers. There could be some of that right. Remember, Elon Musk is trying to build. I mean, he's doing so many things. The data centers in low Earth orbit. Yes. So everyone's saying, how are we going to keep these things cool? Well, if they're in space, guess what? They're going to be cool. And I mean, temperature-wise, not just like, ooh, wow, nifty. Yeah, which, which again, I think it has the potential to really kind of, look, you want my optimistic. This is my take. You guys can steal it if you want to be optimist. It's the equivalent of chess. remember when it was a big deal buck you'll remember this i don't know how much you played chess when you were a kid oh i was a little chess i was a little chess nerd i wasn't very good but i liked it when i was a kid yeah my kids we got them all trained in chess i think it's a good way to kind of get your brain working um It was a big deal when the computers were going to become smarter than the best human. When was Deep Blue, I think, was the first computer program that was able to win, able to beat. Bishop, Knight 6. What has happened is chess is more popular than it's ever been in history. and computers are infinitely better than humans. What really people want is the full extent of human excellence not to watch two computers compete against each other in chess, right? And so I think humanity arguably can become even more important in an AI age because ultimately humans want to connect with humans. I mean, and really for all of you, if you own a small business or you work at a small business, If you, you know, do work out of your home, if you think, whatever industry you're in, everything from, you know, farming to trucking to plumbing to, you know, like accounting.

everything is going to have, there are going to be inputs here that affect these things. And just here, Clay, I just ask for a list. I'll just give this real quick to give people a sense of what, what is, what is right now something from, what are things from AI that can help all of you listening? I mean, now, not in five years, not, we're not just like, oh, is AI going to cure this type of cancer, which God willing, I mean, that would be amazing, right? That may be a few years out or maybe even a decade out, but things that right now. could affect in a positive way, all of you, AI agents that handle administrative work for people. So office workers, freelancers, business owners, everything gets faster. Everything becomes, you can find things faster, you can collate things faster, you can distribute things. That's one thing. Personalized AI tutoring and accelerated skill building, the skill set that you can develop. from having an AI online tutor for a whole range of things. It's pretty incredible. I'm going to be able to give you everything from singing lessons to coding lessons to teaching you about ancient Babylon. Healthcare interactions and access play. I think this is really one of the biggest ones. Diagnostics. Radiology. I wouldn't go into radiology as a profession. My brother-in-law is a radiologist, and we've had this conversation about the degree to which it's going to be able to do so much of a better job. Yeah. I mean, you're probably going to have radiologists kind of overseeing the AI tools, at least for a five to 10-year stretch, I would say. But for medical stuff right now, I've told you, I've done this. I've put my blood work into grok and then just gone after. What about this? What about this? Elevated this, lower that. It's incredible what it can tell you. It'll always say talk to your doctor. It knows more than my doctor. I hate to say that, but, you know, in my, I'm just speaking about my doctor, my doctor doesn't sit there for 30 minutes and answer every question that I want before I'm being shooed out of the room until better customer service experience and then reduced cognitive load and time costs of driving. That's what we talked about with the autonomous driving situation or, you know, the full self-drive from Tesla and other things. These are all things that are happening right now. Guys, this is going to give you hours and hours of your life back. Use these tools. It will give you hours of your life back. And if you don't use them, your competitors will. And they're free. These are free tools, basically. I mean, you can get sort of paid versions, but they're out there. By the way, we've got some breaking news. We'll hit. That's called a tease buck. The first four states of the Democrat primary season in 2028 have been selected. First four selected, not the order they're going to go in yet, but the first four. What are they? We will tell you. We don't do these teasers very often, but that sounds like we will tell you when we come back. In the meantime, I've got rapid radios, and it makes a tremendous difference no matter where you are across the country. You can get a great deal right now on rapid radios as well, and you can get hooked up in a significant way.

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just weeks away. The left is ascendant right now. Zohran Mamdani seems to be the Democrat who gets more ink, so to speak, than anybody else. Is that just a now thing, or do you think that's part of what, who's actually calling the shots going forward? I never know the answer to anything involving the Democrats. I think they're completely crazy. But it seems to me looking in from the outside that the places where people like Zohran Mamdani are winning are not really representative, certainly not of the country. No one. There is not an expression as New York City goes, so goes the country. And I don't think even particularly representative of the Democratic Party, though, I guess we'll find out. I think there are a few issues that are driving the socialists in the Democratic Party, and probably the biggest one is foreign policy. So it's unfortunate that Trump... changed his mind on what his position on foreign policy was, which was no new wars, and then gets us in a lot of new wars, including one that seems to be never-ending, and is, to quote Democrats on all the wars we win, unwinnable. So I think Republicans could really crush the socialist aspect of the Democratic Party if they went back to their more pacifist roots. And this is probably going to get people fired up in the comments. We now are on YouTube every day, Ann, and so you can watch both Buck and myself and you on video as well. If President Trump asked you, what should I do on Iran, you would say what? Would you just say, just cut and run at this point? There is no benefit to being there. What would your advice be particularly given what we're sitting here three, four months away from the midterm and gas prices being up, no matter, you don't have to be a genius to know that people don't like paying more for gas. What would you tell them at this point? It's a disaster. It's been a disaster from the beginning. And basically two weeks in, what I'd recommend the same thing I am recommending now, declare victory and get out. Just come to any deal. It doesn't matter. Don't worry. We will back you up. We'll tell you it's a great deal. You've done a fantastic job. We're so glad you bombed Iran. Now, please just stop. let the strait of more moves get opened, let gas prices go down, and try not to absolutely destroy the midterms for Republicans. When that happens, very, very, very bad things happen when Democrats have control, especially a large supermajority control of the House and the Senate. Now, maybe they won't get that, but this is the strongest issue for them.

Yeah, it is concerning seeing some of the polling end to be sure. How are we doing on deportations? How's the immigration situation? We've given Trump lots of credit here. We continue to you for securing the border. Did that right away. Great. Interior enforcement, though, we had 10 plus million illegals coming to the country under Biden. Everyone, even our friend Bill Maher has admitted that that is crazy that they did that, but they did it. Now we're being told, I think it's, I don't know, 300,000 or something this year. And I'm looking at the clock and I'm saying, okay, well, we're halfway through the year. How is this going? What could change? What do you think needs to happen? Well, I don't want to criticize the administration. I think they're doing the best they can, but it needs to be more. You're definitely right. It needs to be more. Who knows if we'll ever get this opportunity again? And I mean, it's crazy that Democrats, and I might add some Republicans, spend all this time bringing in tens of millions of illegal aliens. And as I said in a tweet this week, it was 30 million back in 2005. This is explained in Adios America. It was absolutely minimum 30 million illegal aliens 20 years ago. Who knows what the number is now. What would you guess? And I got to ask you, what would you guess that the number is now? I mean, you've looked at this a lot for quite some time. Like, what do you think the number is? Well, minimum 40 million. There are ways of calculating this. People, I think, should probably be growing suspicious that they've been claiming it's 11 million for the past 50 years. And it's never butch. Not one more illegal alien has come in. And so the things I cite in the book that you can look up yourself is first a couple of Pulitzer Prize winning journalists spent a year invested in Bartlett and Steele. They have their own entry in Wikipedia, very famous investigative insurance spent it. journals they spent a year investigating the border in 2005 and concluded then then three million were coming in a year then a couple of analysts same year at bear sterns did an analysis to advise people on things that matter to their money something very important they looked at remittances what immigrants and illegal immigrants, most of all, sent back to the home country. They looked at the number of housing permits and school graduation rates in illegal immigrants enclaves. I don't know if it was they or someone else pointed out back around then, early 2000s. Our census said there were about 8,000, I don't know a few thousand. I don't know if it was 8,000. Brazilians. in New York City. But both the Brazilian consulate and its embassy concluded there were hundreds of thousands of Brazilians just in New York, which is to say we have no idea. They're minimizing it as much as they can. And you can't just let them move it in and millions in and have it be a ratchet effect where they move in.

But I did weigh in on a video that showed a lady who had her hair cut from very long to very short. And I just wrote the following. Always remember, the friend who tells you, ladies, you'd look great with short hair, is the friend who secretly hates you. This is coming up on 10 million views, by the way. 10 million views of this tweet will have happened. Do you co-sign this? What do you think? I completely co-signed this. It's something a lot of us girls have talked about it. For some reason, I don't know if this is still going on. When you're little, like four or five, maybe up to age eight, for some reason, our mothers really want us to look like lesbians. They're always cutting our hair to a short little thing, and I had older brothers begging my mother, would you please stop cutting her hair? There we go. 10 million views on that buck. What is the overall consensus? Is it mostly positive? Like, as you can assess, what would you say the take is from those? It can react to this. It is hilarious. 100% of guys are like, absolutely. They're like, ladies don't cut your hair. Every husband, every boyfriend, every straight guy that's weighing in, the ladies don't cut your hair. And then I'd say it's 80, 20. Because there's the woman who are like, but what about, you know, but blah, blah, blah, and I'm like, I'm trying to do you a favor, I'm trying to do you a favor, however long your hair can be. And, you know, and then people are like, what about if somebody has a medical issue? I'm like, we're not talking people with medical issues, okay? I'm talking to somebody who went to a salon and paid some guy in Turkey like 500 euro to chop off all of her hair, and it has gone mega viral. Not a good idea. Ann approves. And Queen Anne has weighed in place. So there we go. Yeah, we'll have to get into tattoos next time. Oh, by the way, as we get ready for the break, do you engage in a big way in pop culture? Like, when's the last time you went to a movie theater? Well, this week I went to the opera and a Yankees game. Do either of those count? That's a pretty good stretch out there. I was just curious if you had a take on the Odyssey. Everybody's weighing in on the Odyssey. Do you engage in a story like that? I think it's going to be a complete bore PC nonsense. I would never see it in a million years. And from people I respect who have actually taken the trouble to watch it, that's what they say. It's no fun. There's no fun involved. And it's not, it's not, it's a slog to sit through is what I have read from reviewers. I trust. There is always fun on Anculture substack guys. Go follow. Go check it out. Unsafe. on substack and follow her obviously on X. Ms. Coulter, always great to see you. Thanks for being here. Good to see you. Thank you. Bye-bye. Look, I want to tell you how many of you. Thank you to Ann Coulter.

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18 to 54 year olds substantially with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in second place. But the thing that really kind of stands out to me here in this poll book is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is pretty well known at this point in time. She is not in any way resonating with black voters. which to me is a bit intriguing. Gavin Newsom is. I don't know what that's based on, but he is way behind Kamala Harris, but he's in second place. White Democrats, Kamala Harris 1, Gavin Newsom 2, Mayor Pete, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and then Mark Kelly. So Mark Kelly, to me, is kind of the... Kind of the dark horse here. Now, why does South Carolina being first matter? It beat Nevada. I think this is a sign that there are still a lot of Kamala Harris loyalist inside of the DNC. Because if you are Kamala Harris, you overwhelmingly want South Carolina to be number one because it gets you off in a good foot. Let's do this. Let's step into this for a second. We're going to be Kamala Harris's messaging and PR team here for a minute. The story that Kamala Harris, and this is in her book, of course, or the book that was written for her, the story is that she was loyal to Biden, that she never saw anything herself that made her think that he couldn't finish out his term, and it wasn't her place to try to push a sitting president aside, and that she stepped up with a shortened schedule. in the midst of an embarrassing moment for the Democrat Party overall and took all the slings and arrows and came within 250,000 votes, spread over a handful of states of winning that election despite starting a few laps behind, so to speak, in the race. Yes. So that is her narrative. It is not a unworkable narrative. The part of Kamala Harris that I think is going to run into some trouble is she is not a good campaigner and she is not a good politician. But name recognition, former vice president, it's going to be interesting. You are counting out handsome Gavin, I think, way too quickly in all this. Yeah, I know. You don't even think he's really in the conversation in a meaningful way. Look, so a couple of things. I think Kamala Harris could follow the Trump example and say everybody knows everything they need to know about me. I'm going to go talk to the American public. I'm going to be out there and I am going to make my case to voters. I don't need to be in the primary. So I think that is a possibility that could be floating around out there. Gavin to me, Buck. has a little bit of a Kamala Harris problem, which is the more time people spend watching him, I think the more oliginous he appears to be, the more unctuous, the less likable of a candidate he is. And I do believe that that starts to become an issue for him. Now, let me hit you with this. The first four states, we know South Carolina is going to be one.

New Hampshire, if I'm Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, I'm thinking to myself, okay, that's a state where I can make Bernie won it a lot of times. I can win that state. I'm going to tell you this. I think. For Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the play is just have a really good showing. She is young for the role of president. Yeah. By Constitution. I mean, she is, I think just a year over, maybe two years over the 35 minimum age. So she is. Now, it's an interesting question. I know a lot of you're like, but buck, you know, look how old Thomas Jefferson was and at the founding and George Washington was the oldest at like 40 and 17. I know, I know, but. You know, people might think that there's an experience gap relative. We've gotten used to our presidents being white-haired guys in their 60s, basically. You know, that's maybe they're 50s. Think about it. I said this on the show, but it is kind of a crazy coincidence. Trump, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton were all born in the same year, 1946. Yeah. What are the odds of that? I mean, it's kind of within a few, I think within six months of each other, three, what is that, 24 years basically of presidents since 2000, since 1992, have all been born in the same year. I want to get to this because I want to remind people that I've been saying this all along, so that'll hopefully cancel out my crazy combos and I'm going to run take, which is that I think that the... the odds that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez becomes a vice president. She is a perfect vice president for any Democrat who would be running because she brings the left crazy enthusiasm but keeps it under control. She's got the optics of being attractive. She's a Latino woman, a wise Latina, all that stuff, young, getting ready for the next year. You could write the press release in 30 seconds or have AI do it for you. about why Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a perfect vice president for Gavin, for Kamala Harris, for any of them. I don't think that she's top job likely, but if she, you know, right, it then becomes so easy for her to create that coalition moment where if she wins, say, New Hampshire, or if she comes in first or second, whoever, let's say it's Kamala Harris, just to make you happy, it's driving me nuts. But let's say it's Kamala Harris. If Kamala Harris is the lead role, she says, you know, let's. Let's unite forces. I'm not going to drag this thing out longer than I have to, but she'll bring some enthusiasm, probably some Latina support to Kamala Harris's banner. So, yeah, I think that that's the way that this likely goes. By the way, also it would bring the Bernie machine behind Kamala Harris. And if the Bernie machine gets behind Kamala Harris, it's game over. I mean, she wins. She wins the whole thing, I think. I don't think Gavin Newsom can split the Democrat establishment wing and then have Bernie go with Kamala Harris and have Gavin come out ahead. The other state that jumps out to me, Michigan. Why does that jump out? Obviously, it's the only real swing state in the first four. But Buck, this makes the...

Arab, Muslim versus Jewish dynamics of the Democrat Party, impossible to ignore because the Dearborn area in southeast Michigan has basically the largest Muslim population per capita. I think it's anywhere in the United States. And so how do you thread that needle for the Democrats? We've talked about the fact that the party increasingly turns their back on everyone that is in any way related to the Jewish faith. I think that's a tension. I'm a little bit surprised that they put Michigan in there. But to me, it looks like the most wide open of all these states because I can make you an argument. that South Carolina's off the board, basically with Kamala Harris. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, I think, is going to be very favorably disposed given the Bernie backing, presuming she runs in New Hampshire. Nevada also, I should have said, as a swing state as well, but it's been one where Bernie has traditionally done really, really well. So I would think that would be helpful for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Also, obviously, has a big Hispanic population. Michigan feels like the one where you don't really know. of those four where it could go. Do we still have Tommy in Michigan, guys? Speaking of Michigan, is he with us still? I know he was a minute ago. Yes. All right, let's take Tommy in Michigan. He wants to weigh in on his stay. What's going on, Tommy? How's going, fellas? Hey, first off, Clay, you got to stay off TV, man. My wife, I'm trying to steal my wife, bro. But aside from that. Nobody's talking about Michigan and Gretchen Whitmer, who is wildly, wildly popular here. Yeah. Nobody's thinking about Mayor Pete at all in Michigan. Thank you for the call. I think that's... George Shaw's back candidate. And rumor has it that that's who Biden wanted originally, but because she was a woman, but she was not a woman of color. But she's on... Thank you for the call. Tell your wife, I appreciate her being a fan. Sorry for trying to steal her from you. The buck, if you look at Michigan, Mayor Pete has moved to Traverse City, northern Michigan area, awesome, beautiful place. So he's in the state. Some people have said that felt calculated because obviously he was formerly in South Bend, Indiana, and now he's moved into Michigan, which is a big toss-up state. Gretchen Whitmer said up at McAnaw Island for a big event that they did there that she was not going to run in 2028. Now, it's early. She could obviously change her mind, but she has said publicly that she was not going to run. Of course, she's term limited out. There's an open election for the governor of Michigan. We will see whether or not she stands by that. To me, she feels like a VP candidate. She should have, she would have been a much better VP candidate, I think, than, uh, than certainly Tim Walz was. But that's worth paying attention to, to be certain.

We will keep an eye on all of these things. We will be looking out. We'll take your calls, take your talkbacks, maybe even some pithy comments from the YouTube live stream. By the way, if you haven't checked this out yet on YouTube, please do. We are there. Clay Ann Buck, we are streaming. We want to have a family feel-good moment coming up? Find your old family movies that you recorded on videotape 20 years ago and share them with the entire family. If you've been storing those aging cassettes in the attic or basement, now is the time to get them together and send them into Legacy Box. Based in Tennessee, we love Legacy Box. They digitally transfer that old media onto the new media that you can actually watch on your smart TV, your iPhone, or your Samsung, or whatever you're carrying these days. Legacy Box started doing this more than 15 years ago. Keeping alive those memories is what motivates the 200 plus technicians working at Legacy Box to hand transfer your family memories from the old videotapes, films, and photos you send to them. They've done it now for 2 million families, including mine and clays. When you send your old media to Legacy Box, they treat them like the rare and important, sentimental items they are. carefully transferring everything by hand. You'll get them back as well as brand new files on the cloud, ready to watch and share from anywhere. Shop legacy boxes sale today at legacybox.com slash buck. They've always got one great deal or another at the website. Find this one today. Legacybox.com slash BUCK. Laugh. Learn. Hang with the guys. Right there when you need them most. Clay and Buck. Just preset them on the eye heart app.