"Americans are feeling pain at the pump yet again"

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hours to work. So I need my gas. So I can't be running around town here and there if I don't need to. What are you doing less of? I mean, are you eating out less? Are you eating out less? Definitely. And I'm not visiting family as much because, you know, these are country miles. So it's not right down the street. And today, lawmakers leave Washington, D.C. for their August recess, meaning that Republicans are going to have a lot to answer to from their constituents back home who are unhappy with the state of the economy. A recent political survey revealed that even MAGA, Trump voters are getting sick of costs increasing thanks to the war with Iran. Danu, Fox News poll shows a pretty stunning nine-point gap in who the public thinks will do a better job with the economy. Democrats at 54%, with Republicans at 45%. Americans' financial struggles, thanks to Donald Trump's policies, is where we begin this hour with business analysts, an author of The Message of the Markets, Substack Ron Insana. Also with us, Charlie Sykes, he's the author of To the Contrary Newsletter and Vice President and Chair of International Economics for the Atlantic Council and New York Times opinion guest essayist Josh Lipsky is here. Gentlemen, thank you for joining us to close out this World Wind Week, Ron. I've got to start with, as my friend Natasha Sarin wrote in the New York Times, a very reasonable question about why in the months leading up to the November of midterms where affordability is the top issue. I mean, how many times have we talked about this? And the administration is now implementing policies that are going to make life even more unaffordable. It's wildly inexplicable, Jackie. I mean, not just from a political perspective, but from an economic one as well. I mean, the president, and I discussed this with Stephanie Rule earlier this morning, has a fixation with this period in American history between 1870 and 1913, where tariffs were the principal source of revenue for the U.S. government. And he thinks somehow that was the best economic period that the U.S. enjoyed, which is factually incorrect. In addition, by imposing or reimposing tariffs, some of which have already been disallowed by the Supreme Court. He is putting back into place inflationary forces that are going to push up prices, both for businesses and consumers, and that's exacerbated by the war in Iran, as you rightly point out. And it also, as we move towards the Federal Reserve's meeting next week on interest rates, puts pressure on them to either leave rates where they are, or if this were to accelerate further, raise rates down the road. So none of this is good for American consumers, especially those in middle incomes and lower incomes, where this. forms a regressive tax on them and as the guest was suggesting earlier at the top of the program forcing them to make choices about what to do with their money and that is a politically untenable place to be

And I do that point that you brought up about Trump's fixation with certain periods of history and even certain grievances that he has experienced himself. There's also an anecdote from the 1980s where Trump himself was the recipient of a tariff policy from Japan that has also people point to been one of the reasons why this is such a sticking point for him. But Charlie, when he has expended... such ideological flexibility on other issues that are central to his platform, like the war in Iran. Why hasn't that translated here? Because this is a fetish for Donald Trump. Donald Trump has had a fetish for tariffs going back to the 1980s, and it is an idea that is fixed in his head. But I would just throw in, since we're talking about history, I would like to throw in two words. Smooth Josh Hawley. One of the most extraordinary things about the new tariffs is that... Donald Trump, as the workaround of the Supreme Court decision, is going back to authority that was included in the 1930s, Smoot-Josh Hawley-Terifact, which is notorious, a notorious piece of legislation in the administration of Herbert Hoover, widely regarded by economists as creating real economic harm and extending and deepening. the Great Depression. No president has ever invoked this particular power before. But what's really interesting, what I'm fascinated by is this a couple of weeks ago, Donald Trump was saying that one of the reasons why he was so anxious to sign that memorandum of understanding with the Iranians was that if the war went on, it would create a global economic catastrophe. And then he specifically said that he did not want to be remembered. like Herbert Hoover. Well, Herbert Hoover is largely remembered because of things like the Smoot-Josh Hawley Act. So you want to talk about a little bit of historical resonance going on right now, but this is just another indication, I think, of where Donald Trump is allowing his ideological fetishes to make him tone deaf to the political and economic realities of the moment. Yeah, and Josh, I want to bring you in here, I mean, despite the fact that Americans have now consistently and overwhelmingly pulled that they disapprove of these tariffs, you argue essentially in your New York Times piece that whether or not the United States likes these tariffs. they have essentially become structurally permanent. And that is because, I mean, you can do a better job of explaining this than I can, but because the bond market now depends on the revenue and it is baked in. And so that whoever comes in after the president can't just undo this. And you also argue that this latest round of tariffs is different in terms of its sticking points. Can you talk a little bit more about that?

That's right. I think a lot of countries and companies around the world assumed after the Supreme Court struck down the IEPA authorities for the president that they might be through the trade wars. And what we learned this week is that's not true. Donald Trump is committed to rebuilding the terror fall. As the other guest said, he is using a variety of authorities to do it. Some of them are much more legally durable than the previous authorities. They require investigations that have been put out today. And it's not clear that the courts will overrule him on this. Even if the next president wanted to undo these tariffs, it's not going to be as easy as many people think. Remember, Joe Biden kept... and even expanded all of Donald Trump's first-term tariffs. And there's a reason why Donald Trump is so committed to these tariffs. It is, of course, something he's believed in for 40-plus years. But it's also generating a lot of revenue over $100 billion annually. And that is paying for a range of policy priorities in the administration, including the tax cuts in the one big, beautiful bill. The next president will have their own legislative priorities, and they will need revenue to fund it. And unwinding this will not be simple. If we step back and think about what's happening here, in the first year, Donald Trump launched a trade war. In the second year, Donald Trump launched a real war with Iran. What he's trying to do now is both at the same time, and that does have cost for the American people. And I mean, I want to get back to this Washington Post reporting because I do feel like, as you noted, Joss, we have been through multiple iterations of tariff news cycles and also the economic pain of the Iran war being told by economists, business leaders, that the prices were going to skyrocket. But we didn't necessarily see that actually reflected in things like the gas prices. But now there is a feeling that. we are going to see this steep price correction. What exactly does that look like, Josh? That's right. It's certainly going to be felt at the pump, and it's going to happen faster than the first time around with Iran if this escalates and the Strait of Hormuz stays shut. And one of the reasons when it comes to trade wars that we didn't see the kind of inflation a lot of economists predicted is because a range of countries didn't retaliate. And we may see something different this time around. You've seen the response from Canada already based on the tariffs that were threatened earlier this week. And so the reason that we didn't see all the price pressures that many expected was because we didn't actually get in. to a global trade war. The question is, if you layer on top retaliation to Trump's tariffs, with the straight of Hormuz being closed, now we're really an uncharted territory, and it's economically dangerous territory. And Ron, I mean, you have talked a little bit about this. I believe with Stephanie this morning, but this framing that we are now seeing, which is essentially the president and his family.

benefiting massively from the business deals that they're engaging in, huge conflicts of interests, investing in defense contractors who are profiting off of the war with Iran, affordability being at the top of the list for voters' concerns, and prices going up. That dichotomy. I mean, is this framing, how long is this framing going to stick for? We're talking about the November midterms, but this feels like something that is now baked into 2028. Is this the albatross that is going to hang from JD Vance's neck? It could. I mean, so far as it could hang from any Republicans neck in the event that, and it's already happening, quite frankly, is that middle income and lower income individuals and families feel this widening inequality gap between themselves and whether you want to call them oligarchs or the elite, however you want to characterize. this administration and its friends, they are all making money hand over fist. In some cases, some of the methods by which they're doing so appear to be. legally dubious. And so you're exacerbating this wealth inequality between those at the top and those in the middle and those at the bottom. And so that's not just a political issue. It's a true economic issue where folks are struggling to get by, even if they're middle income or even upper middle income, they're having to make these, again, choices on what to buy, what not to buy, what to do, what not to do. And then you've got the president benefiting to the tune of $3 billion for some of his crypto trades. His kids are getting wealthier. And his friends around him are cutting. deals with different countries to pull in investment dollars or cut in mineral deals or what have you, defense deals. And so, yes, I mean, if the Democrats were smart, they'd be running commercials about this every single day and pointing out the fact that there are really two distinct classes of individuals in the United States, one benefiting, one not. Yeah, and Charlie, I think what's also so interesting about this is it's not Trump who is going to inherit the backlash to this framing that we just described that he has created and this widening income inequality and this very clear illustration of it now from the highest levels of the U.S. government. It's going to be the Republican lawmakers who continue to run, those who serve in the House, the Senate. people who, as we talked about in the last hour, have essentially given up some of their constitutionally mandated power in Congress. What do you think Republican voters are going to be facing it? Republican lawmakers are going to be facing back home from their constituents this August?

Well, they bought the ticket. Now they're going to take the ride. And they're going to have to answer for all of this because at one time or another, they had to cast votes endorsing all of this. But the larger point you're making. is that it feels like we're in a moment in politics where all the stars are aligning. Donald Trump rose to power with this populist message. He was the voice of the little person. And yet what are we now seeing? We are seeing the gross self-dealing and corruption. We're seeing this vast gaps in wealth. We're seeing the concentration of power in the elites and the oligarchs at a time when people are feeling real economic anxiety. and looking at this and thinking, well, Donald Trump was supposed to drain the swamp. In fact, he has become and surrounded himself with other swamp creatures. So the dynamic and the anger and the disillusionment is out there. And I do think that it plays out. past the midterm elections into 2028. It's going to be hard for the Republicans to go back and say, we are the populist working class party when we've done this. And I agree with Ron, if Democrats were smart, they were running ads on this every day. One of the things we did see is the autocrat from Hungary. Viktor Orban, who had rigged the system in every conceivable way, and yet when corruption became the number one issue, he was thrown out of office in a landslide. So there's real potency to the issue of corruption. And it is taking place in real time, in broad daylight, in very dramatic fashion. And I do think it's going to shape our politics, as you suggest. And before we are out of time, I do want to share some new reporting from the New York Times. That is Justin from New York Times reporter Tony Rom. In little-noticed court documents, federal officials have acknowledged this month that they had terminated Biden-era funding based solely on political criteria, targeting projects and states that were represented by Democrats and had voted for Kamala Harris. The admission showed how President Trump has weaponized the provision of federal education. energy, health, housing, and infrastructure aid in his second term. Far from rooting out the sort of misspending that Mr. Trump sees as rife in Washington, the White House has instead sought to leverage the budget as a tool to assist its allies or as a cudgel to hurt the Democrats' foes. Ron, how, I mean, how should the Democrats be talking about the totality of all of these things in their messaging in a clear way that is easily synthesizable to voters? Yeah, Jack, I think there's so many of us on this network who have said that the commercials are writing themselves for the Democrats. I mean, to take this material and weaponize it in a political sense.

would be to their benefit. They're not doing it as yet, but you have a number of issues. You have the wealth gap. You have an economy that is not working for all. It's not shared prosperity by any structure of the imagination. You have allegations of corruption. And now you have this, you know, political weaponization of federal funds going to states that only support the president. These are all things that could be used dramatically, vocally, and broadly to make the Democrats case that they would do better. And as yet, have not seen them coalesce around this. Instead, they're having an internal family fight over the Democratic Socialists versus the moderates. And I think it's muting any message they could possibly get out that would benefit them, not just in the midterms, but beyond. Ron and Zana, Josh Lipski, thank you both for starting us off this hour. Charlie is sticking with me, and when we return, Donald Trump won't stop talking about all of his vanity projects in Washington, D.C. The ones polls show Americans don't like and don't want. So what's the administration doing now? Pushing ahead with a plan to stamp Trump's name on yet another iconic building. That story's next. Also ahead after months of informal auditions, Trump seems to have picked a favorite to succeed him. But not everyone in the Magaverse is happy about it. And later, fired 60 Minutes correspondent. Cecilia Vega is breaking her silence on just how far her Maga-friendly bosses at CBS News meddled in editorial decision-making at the iconic news magazine show. For shocking allegations later in the hour, deadline White House continues after a quick break, so don't go anywhere.

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Yeah, and Charlie, you know, I think the conversation a lot of us have been having really over the years is that voters just haven't cared about corruption in a way where it has resonated on the campaign trail and through Democratic talking points, whether that was sort of the fault of the Democratic messaging that they were hearing or just sort of a baked-in cynicism amongst the American people. But... The New York Times has election surveys that are now seeing that this is cracking through. And I've actually heard the same from my congressional sources who said that, that finally, the vanity projects in particular are cracking through when it comes to the corruption conversation that lawmakers are having on the ground. But let me read you from the New York Times. In election, your surveys, corruption does not generally crack the top issues American voters care about. No American politician, arguably, has understood and exploited this ambient cynicism more successfully than Trump. There's a difference, though, between a dozen or so million in government payments to Trump owned resort properties, the most attention-grabbing form that Trump's conflicts took in his first presidency, and the multi-billion dollar spoils that have been made public in recent months. And this summer, amongst at least some prominent members of his party, there is a palpable nervousness that voters have noticed. I mean, the financial disclosures obviously paint a very shocking picture that I think is hard for any American to avoid. But I do think the vanity projects are part of that story. How do you connect the dots there for us? No, very, very much so because in many ways they are the living embodiment of the self-dealing of Donald Trump, you know, and I'm glad that the rev talked about his deep insecurity here. You know, I guess I would use also the analogy. I have, you know, two very large Germans shepherds who feel the need to mark their territory all, you know, all the time. And Donald Trump feels that way. But I think the fact that... They are vanity projects. They don't benefit anyone else. They are so tangible to be able to see that sort of thing. But what struck me in your initial report was when you quoted Sean Duffy, who was a fellow cheesehead. I've known him for many years, that he would say that renaming Penn Station for Donald Trump was a priority of the Department of Transportation. Trust me. There are tens of millions of Americans who, if you ask, what should the priority of the federal government be? What should the priority be of the Department of Transportation? Pretty much nobody would say renaming Penn Station for Donald Trump would be on that particular list. But it's such a tell that they think this is so important, that Donald Trump is obsessed with things like, for example, you know, his ballroom, the... the reflecting pond, the arch, which benefits no one outside of really Donald Trump.

Yeah, and let's actually just to drive home how unpopular this is with the American people. Take a closer look at this Washington Post polling. When asked, what is Trump's goal with these projects? 42% say it's vanity and ego. 26% say it's to make Washington more beautiful. 22% leave his mark on Washington. 8% enrich himself and family corruption. And 4% say it is a wasteful use of tax dollars. What's next, Rev? I mean, there's very few landmarks left for him not to put his name on after the change of Palm Beach Airport. He's also said in the past there's been discussions about wanting Dulles Airport to be named after him. What do you think the next target is? Whatever he can see and like a child to say, oh, I want that, put my name there. But I think also you have to deal with as you show the polling numbers. that it is in the context of people having to now pay higher gas prices again, where affordability is beyond the reach of many Americans. So it's not just naming stuff after him. It's naming stuff like ballrooms and things that are for glamour. I mean... People that voted for him, MAGA voters, did not think they were voting for the Great Gatsby. They thought they were voting for somebody that would be doing something about them. And they're the one suffering. And in the middle of this, he's standing in the West Wing saying, oh, get that named after me, get that named after me, rather than standing up for his voters. Fine. He certainly relates to a different base than many of us do. But for his own base, he's looking over them and picking and choosing how he can deal with his own narcissism and insecurity. Yeah. And Charlie, I mean. these changes that the president has decided to make. They also are hurting himself in some ways. I mean, one of the vanity projects that we have not talked about yet on the show today, but his decision to try to upgrade Air Force One, it caused a major embarrassing issues that led him to ordering his FBI to subpoena New York Times reporters about... the gift that the cut that the catari is gifted to him of that plane because it didn't have the proper defense capabilities to keep him safe the vanity knows no bounds it seems no and these are easy stories to understand by the way we know you point at that airplane you say this is the you know that the Qatari bribe, the winged bribe, Donald Trump wanted a flying palace. It turned out to be a white elephant. And when people pointed out that it just, you know, with all that money, that it did not actually provide the, you know, provide the technology that the president needed, he was deeply embarrassed when the New York Times reported that, that not only was corrupt, but that in his vanity, he had put the nation himself at risk by flying this unready.

airplane. But again, this is also not just the corruption and the vanity. It's also an indication of just how deeply incompetent this administration is. And that's also a theme that I think people are picking up on. And no one's going to go anywhere because when we return, we're actually going to have some news. And we're going to be joined by one of the reporters behind the breaking news about what prompted Donald Trump to switch back to the old Air Force one as he came home from the NATO summit in Turkey. That new reporting after a short break. The New York Times is out with a new reporting on an issue that has become a lightning rod for this administration, to the point where it led the administration to take the extraordinary step of issuing subpoenas to reporters. That is the ongoing question around why Donald Trump did not take the plane gifted to him by the Qatari government when he left the NATO summit early this month. Multiple people briefed on the matter tell the times that, quote, President Trump abruptly switched aircraft when leaving Turkey. After what officials judged to be a credible threat that Iranian proxy forces were targeting him and Air Force won. After the U.S. government picked up on the threat, the Secret Service urged Mr. Trump to change planes. He later announced that he would be using the old plane to leave the country. The information about the nature of the threat, which has not been reported before, sheds light on why the White House moves swiftly to swap out the planes. It also underscores the concerns about the security of the donated jet, which Mr. Trump pressed to be ready as soon as possible for his use. The White House didn't respond to comment, did not comment, but a senior administration official did point to comments by Donald Trump about the Iranian seeking to kill him. I want to bring in one of the reporters who broke that story. New York Times, White House correspondent, Tyler Pager, Rev, Al, and Charlie are still here. Tyler, thanks for joining us on such short notice. Talk to us a little bit about this reporting and what you are learning today. Yeah, Jackie, thanks for having me. And as you just read from this story, we have been trying to better understand the circumstances that led to this plane swap. We reported at the time that there were security concerns, and it came at the behest of the Secret Service. Over the course of several days, we've come to learn a little bit more specificity about that exact security concern. It was, in fact, a threat deemed credible by U.S. officials from Iranian proxy forces in Turkey. Now, it's not... you know, the intelligence is not specified that the threat was targeting the new contrary jet, but just rather the president and the aircraft that he was flying on. But it was enough that was concerning to the Secret Service and U.S. officials that it prompted this change from

the new Air Force One, the one donated by Qatar, to the old plane, the one that's been in use since the 90s. And this comes as part of this larger conversation around the capabilities of the new Cuttery plane. One of the big questions was how much security was added to the plane during the retrofitting process from when the U.S. obtain the plane from the cutteries and started the process of retrofitting it to make it Air Force One. Air Force One is obviously the code name for any aircraft that the president is flying in, but it connotes a series of security measures to ensure that the president can do his job from the skies. There were concerns much before this trip from lawmakers and former defense officials about this process, and we have been reporting on the continuation of these concerns. And obviously, this all comes after the president in the White House announced that the plane, the new plane, the cuttery jet, will be going out of service for roughly a month to get additional enhancements and upgrades. Exactly what those are remain unclear. The White House has not detailed what those are, but it just further shows that there are ongoing questions and concerns about the security of the new aircraft. Yeah, well, a few follow-ups for you, Tyler. I mean, I'm wondering if you've heard anything about whether that time period that you were given a month is actually long enough to make all of the upgrades that are necessary to ensure that that plane is safe, right? Because this is an issue that has plagued presidents before Trump, and they've decided not to undergo any sort of renovation because it was going to take a lot of money and a very long period of time. But even aside from that, I know it's been a wild and I imagine very stressful week, two weeks for you and your colleagues. Why has this story graded on the president so much that he tried to use the power of his DOJ to force you and your colleagues to testify before a judge? Yeah, and the first one, you know, this all comes against the backdrop that Boeing has been retrofitting planes for many years now to replace the old Air Force ones. The president was frustrated by the delays in that process, and that's why there was what's called this bridge plane, the cuttery jet that was supposed to serve as the intern. In terms of the exact timeline, officials we've talked to. do not believe that they could fully retrofit the plane to have all the systems that the normal Air Force one has in the many months it had before he took that first flight and in this one month. time period that's been identified by the White House for additional enhancements and upgrades. But again, they have not fully identified what the plane is going to get during that one month period. On the second one, I would refer you to my colleagues reporting that has outlined the president's great frustration with stories about the plane. I think just to take a step back and look at his public comments, the president for years had complained about the old Air Force one and basically said it was embarrassing.

to land in foreign countries with the old plane saying it was not. commensurate with the role in the office of the American president. And the other thing that I would just point out is that the president has long been obsessed with getting a new plane. There's a model of the new Air Force One that Boeing has been working on painted in the way the president wants. That is in the Oval Office. It was even in Marlago during the interim years between his first and second term. So this has long been a fixation of Donald Trump, the new Air Force One. and getting a new plane that he felt fit for the President of the United States. And Charlie, I want to bring you in. Tyler, in his piece with his colleagues, points to something that I noted and took interest in last week when it was reported. I believe it was the Wall Street Journal that first reported that Israel had actually shared intelligence with the United States about the Iranian efforts to kill Mr. Trump. But that after the fact, there were some American officials who viewed that intelligence and the timing that it was relayed to... Trump with skepticism, thinking that it was an effort to provoke Trump to intensify attacks against Iran. I mean, what do you make about the status of the Israeli and the U.S. relationship right now? I mean, there have been threats to the president from the Iranians for years now. It was a... central point of our reporting at the end of the president's presidential campaign. It was something that everyone around him was on high alert on. Obviously, we are in a heightened, different escalated situation here, but where does Israel fall into all of this? Well, it's hard to say, except that obviously the relations are extremely strained. And we know that the prime minister has been, you know, very zealous in trying to exploit his access to Donald Trump and to encourage him to engage in, you know, belligerent activity. But I guess I would like to address one other thing. I hope to people understand that the fact that we're even discussing this story is an indication that not all media outlets are intimidated. by Donald Trump's intimidation tactics. I mean, I think this is significant, just in and of itself, that the president of the United States has launched a full-scale and the weaponized attack against media critics, whether they are broadcast media critics or newspapers. And I find it greatly encouraging that the New York Times, which has been facing these grand jury subpoenas, is not backing down and is aggressively pursuing this story that is so embarrassing to the president.

Perfectly said, Charlie, I thought the same thing. Tyler Pager, thank you so much for your intrepid reporting along with the work of your colleagues and Charlie Sykes. Thank you for spending some time with us today. Reverend Sharpton is sticking around. When we return, the shocking allegations from fired 60 minutes correspondent Cecilia Vega and what she says about Maga-friendly bosses at CVS tried to make her do. That's after a short break. Hi, it's Sierra Miller. I can't wait for you to check out my new collection of shoes and accessories at Designer Shoe Warehouse. If you love shoes as much as I do, then trust me, I got you. From cute sneak arenas to the perfect flip-lops to stunning heels. These shoes are all style, no drama. It's a girls' girl's summer, and DSW has just the shoes. Shop the Sierra Miller collection right now at your DSW store or DSW.com. A beauty rest mattress gives you unparalleled motion separation, isolating movement with our pocketed coil technology. while providing individualized support for every sleeping position. People at their best get their beauty rest for 100 years. Your phone is your lifeline, calling your kid to say goodnight, waiting on a job callback, or just sending a meme to your best friend when it's been that kind of day. Wherever life takes you, the TextNow app keeps you connected for free. Get a real phone number, unlimited talk and text, and 5G data for your favorite apps, all for $0 a month. No fixed contracts, no hidden fees, no panic when bills pile up, just phone service that's there when it's... matters most. Text Now, we've got your back. Download TextNow in your app store today. Wireless plans require the purchase of a SIM card. Visit TextNow.com for terms and conditions. Fire 60 Minutes correspondent Cecilia Vega is speaking out about repeated interference by the new Bari Weiss administration at CBS News. New recordings obtained by Oliver Darcy status Vega can be heard describing three instances of management attempting to interfere in her reporting. Concerning the fatal shootings of Alex Preddy and Renee Good, Darcy writes this. Quote, Vega was encouraged to include footage of protesters violently attacking people in the streets, whom the demonstrators believed to be ICE officers in plain clothes. But Vega said her team couldn't find credible examples of such behavior at the time. She also says management also attempted to intervene in stories concerning the war with Iran and SNAP benefits in West Virginia. When asked if the input was successful, Vega said, quote, if you watch my pieces, you'd see those examples did not make them in. I want to bring in the journalists who broke that story in his newsletter, Oliver Darcy, the founder of status is here, and Reval is still with me. Oliver...

Well, I mean, we'll see what Donald Trump says. I mean, I can't imagine he's going to walk into that room and not assail the journalists inside that room. His administration has waged an unprecedented war on the press, at least in modern American times. You know, you just had Tyler Patreon and the subpoenas against the New York Times. I mean, this stuff is really chilling. It has a chilling effect on the free press. And Donald Trump's going to be at this dinner. And I think it raises a lot of questions why the president who is trying to tear down the First Amendment, who is trying to silence his critics, not only in the press, but also in late nights, going after people like Jimmy Kimmel, doing everything he can to censor anyone who speaks out critically of him, why he would be invited to an event that is ostensibly about celebrating the free press and the First Amendment. Oliver Darcy and Reverend Al Sharpton, thank you both for joining us today. We really appreciate it. And Rev, we're going to see you on Politics Nation tomorrow at 5 with House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries. When we return, Donald Trump seems to have picked a successor with the knives of the Magaverse are already out. That's ahead. Let's go. You ready? Who likes JD Vance? Who likes Marco Rubio? All right. That was President Trump conducting the Apprentice Podus edition. Trump has been publicly and privately questioning those around him. Is Vice President JD Vance or Marco Rubio? Could it possibly be me? Constitution be damned. However, it appears that the president may finally be ready to say you're hired. My colleague Jake Traylor and I have been talking to sources of the White House who tell us that the president is now favoring JD Vance to be his successor in 2028. Our news comes as the Washington Post reports that his JD Vance has ascended in the Magosphere. He's also been facing an onslaught of online attacks that his allies believe are an attempt to poison the well before he even gets his campaign going. The Post writes that his detractors, quote, claim that JD Vance is unfit to be vice president due to his efforts to negotiate a peace deal with Iran. They've asserted without evidence that JD Vance is making policy decisions not supported by President Donald Trump. Another break for us, and then we'll be right back. A big thanks to you for spending part of this Friday afternoon with us. We're grateful. Catch me tomorrow morning at 7 a.m. Eastern for the weekend, and then again Sunday at 7th, with special guest, Senator Cory Booker. Hello, I'm Ozempic. And I'm other GLP ones, kind of like him. Hey, are you shaking a Maraca? Nope, I'm shaking the pill version of Ozempic, which no one should ever do except in ads like this. A nice disclaimer. Hey, thanks. Asked your doctor about which FDA approved uses of the Ozempic pen or pill may be right for you. Call 1833 Ozemp or visitozempic.com to view the medication guide and learn more about Ozempic somaglite tablets, 9 milligrams. And Ozempic somaglite injection, two milligrams. There's a pill version of Ozempic.