The Rod and Greg Show: Discriminatory Diversity Initiatives; Senator Mike Lee on SAVE Act

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Right now in this state can't file. We'll dig into that. We'll talk with the state lawmakers who's trying to change that. We've got a lot of other things to get to, Greg. But before we start off today, you and I look at the Unleashed Prosperity email that we give from Steve Moore every week, right? I always love Steve the email because he usually has a funny cartoon or a great quote in there, right? Yep. He did today. This from Milton Freeman. If you don't know who Milton Freeman in, find out. Find out. Because many people consider him the world's best economist, at least in the last century. Easily. Easily, right? That's what he said. I love this. If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert in five years, there'd be a shortage of sand. If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert in five years, there'd be a shortage of sand. And I could just hear him saying that. Yeah, no. And it's so true. Put the government in charge of anything and they just ruin it. Yeah, they'll just consume it, destroy it. Never to be seen it. All right. Let's talk about Democrats eating crow and admitting that the Trumpster was right. Yeah, well, you got to play these moments because they hardly ever exist because it's like an admission that their self-worth is gone if they ever admit that Trump's right. So you're not going to get this very often. Even when he's obviously right, they'll live in denial forever. But we have an example. We have two examples. We have examples of saying, you know what, he got it right, we had it wrong. Yeah, yeah. It's hard to, you can't believe you think it's done with blue screens and mirrors. This is some special effects we're about to play. But no, this is really that. No. Well, first of all, let's talk about New Jersey. Now, last Thursday, the president laid out in 20, 25 minutes, I think, a real strong case that elections in this country are vulnerable. Yes. Because of a lot of issues, right? Voter data, sometimes compromised. Chinese hacking it. China hacking it, you're right. But now it comes along New Jersey's governor, Mike Lee Sherrill. Okay, and she has been forced to admit that after reviewing the state's voter rolls, are you listening, Dieter? After reviewing the state's voter rolls, it turns out thousands of non-citizens are registered to vote in New Jersey. Yes. But there's more to this story. Yeah. I mean, the details here are disturbing because of the 60. Share the detail. 6600 folks of the 6600 that they themselves, so the governor of New Jersey, she gets up to the podium and she says on her own because they refuse to cooperate with the DOJ. It turns out 6600 non-citizens have been given in New Jersey the right to vote. Now she says only 400 of them have and we don't think there's any. race they could have decided with those 400. So it's still not that big of a deal. Here's the part she didn't really say that's the most disturbing. When they filled out whatever state form, and I think it's their driver's license, they asked the fundamental question, are you a U.S. citizen?

The 6,600 she's talking about checked no. All of them said no. They were being honest. They were being honest. They were being honest. They were being honest. Who are not U.S. citizens checked the box that said no and they had the right to vote. Now, you tell me, if you didn't get the word no right in the form and they say it's a glitch in the computer, what software are you using when they lie? Yeah. And they say yes when they're not U.S. citizens and they're voting. So you can't really tell me that they only had 6,600 foreign-born, non-U.S. citizens voting in New Jersey. That was 6,600 people that came clean and said, no, I'm not a U.S. citizen. And then they said, surprise, you get to vote. Now, of the ones that wanted to vote and didn't want to admit they weren't citizens, how many of them in New Jersey are running around? We still don't know. Yeah. And by the way, when they want to say, oh, 400 is such a small number. It doesn't really matter. Let's take 400 New Jersey residents who voted and say, your vote got canceled. Are you okay with it? Yeah. Are you fine? You went to the effort of voting and someone who was not a citizen canceled your vote, voted the opposite way, whatever that, you know, if you knew how people voted, without statistically speaking, 400 legal U.S. citizens that live in New Jersey, their votes did not count. But the governor, Greg, says, hey, it was a computer error. Yeah, and in the same press conference, she's saying, computer error. There's a problem here. Yeah, no problem here. This isn't, this isn't a conspiracy. This isn't bad. This is Trump's still crazy. I don't know. Yeah. So she's eating a little crow today. And then we have a Democratic senator today, Greg. You're ready for this? Admitting. What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and we're driving through the States in the BluffMobile, and the best thing that we can do is play our favorite casino-style games on SpinQuest. They have over a thousand games, including Live Dealer Blackjack and Crops, with tons of slots and unlimited. You can get a $30 coin pack for just $10 for new users. Sign up today. Go to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visitspinquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. that Donald Trump was right when it comes to border security. This one I have to hear. You said this before the show, but I have to hear it. Yeah, his name is Peter Welch. He's Democratic Senator, right? Appearing on CNN, listen to what he had to say about the border and Donald Trump.

You know, I think this blame game is just pointless. The fact is that we have a secure border. President Trump was right. Democrats were wrong on that. Also, we have broad bipartisan support. We should deport violent criminals. Wow. So he says he was right on the border. and he's right that we should deport illegal criminals in this country. My only question is, where has this guy been up till now? I mean, it's mighty nice of him to say now, but you don't think he's being bipartisan and statesman like now. I think he sees that they're getting killed in the polls because everyone knows they're wrong, as they've said, nothing to see here, folks, don't worry about it. So he's coming clean a little bit, saying, yeah, but when he says Donald Trump was right, he's like, why are we quibbling overalls? Why are we looking backwards? Let's just stop looking. Donald Trump was. Okay, let's move on. Yeah, wouldn't you like? Wouldn't that be convenient? You know, my question is now, is he the new target of the Democratic Socialist within the Democratic Party? Because he just admitted the president was right on border security. Remember, the Socialists don't want any borders. Yes, they'd like that border. So is he not exist? Yeah, is he a new target now? For the socialist, the radical left wing in the Democratic Party. Well, I'm just going to tell you that you have to get a lot of Democrats. And I see them coming out. It was Andrew Cuomo. You played a number of clips yesterday. Van Jay Jones. They're starting to come out quickly. And a lot of them because if you don't, you turn into John Fetterman. Like right now, John Fetterman is persona non grata in the Democrat Party. Even though he votes as a Democrat, 95% of the, you know, with Chuck Schumer, it's not his votes. It's that he doesn't want to wipe out Israel. He spots a lunatic like Graham Platner when he sees him and says the guy's nuts. And I wouldn't support him. And not afraid to say it. And not afraid to say it. He's saying that this Abdul El-Sayed guy that's running for Senate and Michigan's crazy. He's not going to support him. And so he's saying these things that a lot of Americans are thinking. You better get more Republican Democrats that sound like they're ready to call balls and strikes to some degree. I'm not even saying John Fetterman's some. you know, really fair down the middle. He just can't embrace insanity like the rest of that party can't. And he needs company or else I don't think they make people want. You know, I don't think John Fetterman cares. He doesn't care. He really doesn't. I actually like it. I actually like that. All right. We've got a lot to come. A busy Tuesday afternoon here on the Rod and Greg show in Utah's Talk Radio, 105.9, K&RS. I am not a big follower of the WNBA. I am not either. You know, I don't know if I've watched five seconds of a WNBA game. There's a funny bit where Shane Gillis is in some big thing, and he's like, ladies gentlemen, I remember three times scoring champion WMBA player in his name and everybody cheers. He goes, actually, that's just my friend's wife. I just knew none of you would recognize someone from the WMBA. It was really hilarious. Yes. But I am aware of the story about Caitlin Clark. Yes. Caitlin Clark is an unbelievable basketball player in the WNBA, right? And her fearless defender, Sophie, who I really like. Yes. But her career in the WNBA has been. brutal. I mean, she's a great player, but boy, are they out to get her. It's hard to watch. In fact, I don't watch a lot of WMBA, but when you see these highlights and you see these flagrant files and you see what these players are getting away with, they're taking what could be a Michael Jim Jordan moment for their league, and they're destroying their own league. Yeah, and the league's not even back here. No. I mean, that's what surprises me. Ealing Kirk doesn't do a big, good job of backing herself. She kind of tries this.

almost to a false stay out of the fray. Well, this whole story, our next guest talks about this, but he also talks about how identity politics enters into this debate. His name is William Barclay. He's a political theorist, a policy advisor. William, how are you? Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. Thanks for joining us. Hey, I'm doing great. How about you? It's a pleasure you back with you all today. We're doing just fine. How do you weave identity politics into the WNBA and Caitlin Clark? What do you think is going on there, William? Yeah, absolutely. So I think that, unfortunately, Caitlin Clark's open abuse is merely a symptom of America's most rancid modern disease, diversity, equity, and inclusion, or DEI. And in fact, due to the modern advent of identity politics in America, it's clear that any sufficiently undiverse or white person can currently be openly abused. Something still less than silence will echo out. There really won't be any consequences at all. And more importantly, it's really apparent that this pursuit of diversity has been transformed into a thinly veiled instrument of oppression. And a pen that is now very much used to underwrite the persecution of any sufficiently white person. I'd be happy to get into that in a little more detail if you'd like. So, yeah, I would like to be because I think that you see the popularity of, say, I said Sophie Cunningham, where she tries to defend Kailan, and she'll go and she'll push back. And I think a lot of Americans, without even watching a WNBA game, know who she is, know the kind of role she plays in the WNNBA and protecting her teammate. What does that mean for the league? Does that mean that there are people that like the teams and the players and they like someone like Sophie Cunningham and they want to see Caitlin Collarck succeed? Or are they ruining that sport and kind of chasing away an audience? Well, so I think of what's happened with Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cunningham has become very much a parable for things that are happening outside in America, and people are very much identified with it. What we've seen is that, again, due to this modern advent of identity politics in America, the legitimacy of any person's social plight and perspective has very much become contingent upon their ability to immediately display this necessary diversity criteria and intersectional location upon the so-called spectrum of identity. In fact, the modern gospel of identity politics has decreed that anyone who's sufficiently undiverse or white is not really incapable of any social political suffering, but is actually themselves a source of social political malaise and a locus of oppression. And therefore, DI's intersectional apostles have situated every white or undiverse person as an enemy to any truly progressive society as well as an inevitable threat to all democracy and human rights. And so it's become completely legitimate and even gently encouraged to abuse and persecute any person in America, Sophie Cunningham, Caitlin Clark included, who don't immediately display the appropriate diversity criteria and can be it all labeled as white. William, let me ask this. And the abuse that she is taking, and we're talking about Caitlin Clark in the WNBA, is it more about race or more about jealousy? Or a little bit of both. Well, I think that what you'd have to really look at is that despite the fact that Clark is unquestionably one of the WNBA's brightest young talents and an engine of renewed financial interest and investment, the WNBA has very much failed to protect its new start or at all curtailed of physical abuse that she now consistently suffers. And I think that that speaks volumes.

So I think what you're saying is absolutely true. But then it asks the two-point, the two-word question, then what? Does this succeed? Will it keep going this way? Or is there just a recoil to what you've said is if your identity politics, the world's your oyster. If you're white and you're part of the majority, then you're the oppressor and we need to dismiss you. Where do we go in America or anywhere? How do we proceed from here? Well, I think that you're very right to invoke this term recoil. I think that what we've seen is that people, instead of embrace the WNB and this storyline with Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cunningham, they very much shun the NBA and they're looking for other places to put their money. I think that the WNBA had a golden opportunity here with Ms. Clark, and they botched it. I think that they forgot that sports is all very much sports entertainment at its core and watching people beat up on one of your stars and prevent her from playing the game. Well, that's not entertaining at all. But William, isn't it also about the money? They know if there's abuse here, if she continues to be the story, that it may bring a lot more eyeballs to the game, and is that what they're trying to achieve? I think it's exactly the opposite. If that is their plan, I think it's very short-sighted that they're plan to bring eyeballs on the game. You know, I think it's exactly the opposite. I think all of America, if not a, let's say all of white America, all of America, in fact, has identified again with their storyline, and they very much, I see themselves and what's happening. It's happened to very many Americans on a grassroots level all throughout the modern era under the Biden administration and the Obama administration. So I think we saw the worst of it, and you saw it during Obama's administration, what you just said during Obama's administration, Biden's administration. You look at Trump's first term, you're looking at this second term. There's a bit of momentum here. Does the second term of Donald Trump show that this identity politics is a race off a cliff, that it's the road to nowhere? It's that it doesn't work. Are we going to see the pendulum swing back and be done with this movement of identity politics? I would like to think so. I would like to think that everywhere, at least outside the WNBA, they realize that... DEI and identity politics are an abortive necrotic agenda, very much almost the politics of death, right? And they've rendered people nothing more than a convergence of identity. And in doing so, they've rendered identities right and wrong instead of actions, right? And that undermines all society. I think that nobody right now can forget the tragic case of Arena's Rootska as well, the young white girl who's brutally murdered very recently, right? And very much because the justice system allowed her killer because of his race to be insulated against any reasonable justice in jail time prior to her murder. And then there was media silence afterwards, you know? Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. You point this out in the article that we saw that you wrote about this. The lack of media attention to this horrific stabbing. I think it was in Memphis, wasn't it? I believe in Memphis. What happened to this young lady? And I mean, crickets from the mainstream media. Oh, absolutely. You had some of the most notable media outlets, such as New York Times, Wall Street Journal, even the Associated Press, CNN, all refused to discuss ERISA's murder entirely. And I think that this is just, again, another symptom of what white blue of America has been forced to routinely endure over the past decade. We even had Black Lives Matter, BLM,

after the roots goes slaying, directly, and this is the right quote, right? Say, we have a right to violence. All oppressed people have the right to violence. You've got to have the right place. You've got to have the right time. You've got to have the appropriate situation. I'm absolutely convinced that this is it. That's a crazy, appalling thing to say after she's slain. Okay, William, I see a little glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. The whole world came together for the World Cup here in North America. It came here. The whole world comes here. The fans come here, and the narratives about the United States. Or positive. People aren't hating people based on identity politics. There was a different narrative that I don't know the elitists and the leftists wanted anyone to know or hear. Did the World Cup in that tournament do anything as well to maybe overturn this obsession with DEI and identity politics? Well, I think that it's very hard to hate personally who looks in the eyes, right, when you're forced to confront their humanity. And I think in a lot of ways, people were forced to confront the humanity of conservatives for the first time in a decade, right? I mean, I think it's easy to say to the conservative or the American even has become one of the most openly oppressed and hated minorities of the past five, ten years, right? And I think that that belief, that notion was utterly shattered when people who fancied themselves to be modern liberals and leftists were, again, forced to confront the modern conservative. Buden to be not so different, really more of a different perspective of the same portrait or painting, democracy. That's true. William, always great chatting with you. Thanks for joining us. Absolutely pleasure. Always happy to be with you guys. Thank you. On our newsmaker line, William Barkley, here on the Rodin' Greg Show and Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. Happy birthday, America. It's time to celebrate and play your favorite Las Vegas casino games by American-owned SpinQuest.com. What's better than fireworks than American Pie? Hitting a black check in the palm of your hand, and you won't lose your fingers. Over a thousand games, including slots and live dealers. And $30 point packs are on sale for 10. SpinQuest.com. Buy American players for American players. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me, which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-I-Hart or go to iHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or iHeartadvertising.com. Fortunately, this has not happened in our family, but have... one of our children or even our grandchildren sexually abused i i don't know how people who have seen their children go through this how they stand it i just oh yeah i mean it's a super uh it's it's hard it's hard to think of i i don't know um what i would do

It would be, it'd just be hard. It'd be really, really hard to see a slow-moving criminal justice system to see all the, what feels like all the rules and everything seems to weigh in the side of the criminal than the victim. And sometimes victims are completely forgotten in this process. Well, I have no, no tolerance whatsoever. for child abusers i'm sorry folks these are just kids yeah and leave them alone even the criminals and there was a code in jail as i heard if you were a child abuser and you went to jail or prison you were you were in for a bad fate but i you know with the way kids are being attacked nowadays you don't know if that's even still the code yeah inside of a prison that they're the worst of the worst. Well, joining us on our newsmaker line right now to talk more about this. She's done a lot of work on this. It's State Representative Nicoline Peck. She wrote an op-ed piece talking about parents deserve tools to hold predators accountable. She's joining us on our newsmaker line, Representative Peck, how are you? Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. Yeah, I'm happy, guys. Thanks for having me on today. Why did you write this opinion piece? Well, I've been working on this issue for actually a lot of years trying to combat the trafficking movement and CSAM, which stands for child sexual abuse materials, because I have a history with it. So not me personally, I wasn't the victim of CSAM, but there were youth that I worked with as a treatment foster parent who had some pretty severe abuse cases. I saw what it does to their lives and the lifetime of therapy and the confusion and the bonding issues and all the things that they have. And so anyway, I found out that there were other states who were trying to fix the problem of across the nation. We have not had laws in states that allow for a civil action so that a person can say, listen, you have ruined my life. You have sold my picture. You have made me into a victim of child pornography. And now I'm going to be in therapy and all this kind of stuff for all this time that they haven't had a way to get any sort of restitution. We can do a criminal case for these people, but we don't give any restitution to the victims. In fact, it was really found out Orrin Hatch back in 2018. championed the Amy, Vicky, and Andy Child Pornography Victim Assistance Act back in D.C. as a type of a little something to throw out there if victims found out about it that they could maybe apply to get something, maybe $3,000 or something so that they could help them with some recovery of their, you know, what they've been through because he knew that across the nation there was nothing. So now there's four states that have passed. a bill like this allowing for a civil action against these predators, Mississippi, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and South Carolina. And I'm really hoping Utah will be the fourth. We had a really good run with it this last legislative session, but it timed out.

So, Representative, you know, finding restitution, and this is an area that I hadn't really thought of, but it makes it's intuitive to me that there would be restitution for people that have been harmed this way. And there are these sites that are profiting from this horrific material. Would it also have a chilling effect if the legal liability increases that it would, the sites like this wouldn't exist because they wouldn't want to be subject to that kind of severe legal liability? Does it have the... the benefit as well of maybe ending some of these sites because they would be held liable. I mean, I certainly hope so, Greg, because I feel like there isn't enough accountability in this space. And so they're just going out there and doing it. And there's seven-year-old girls and six-year-old boys who are being sold to people left and right. And then they're being known as child porn stars. And they're growing up and killing themselves because they can't escape what happened to them. And they're not getting the help they need. I think they should be held accountable. You know, this is a really severe situation that a lot of people, unfortunately, more and more than ever before are in this circumstance. Just in Utah alone, in 76% of the DSAM tips in the state of Utah have increased from 2024 to 2025. But we had 14,600 child. sexual abuse material, so child porn tips in our state alone in one year. Well, Representative, this is the state that prides itself on families, prides itself on loving children. Why don't we have a lot like this already on the books? What has happened do you think over the years? Why have we done anything about it? You know, I don't know why it didn't occur to anybody, really. I think it just got, I think it just got worse and worse and worse. I think that it was like, whoa, that's a really gross fringe. thing to do, you know, a perverted thing to do. And, and people really felt like, okay, surely that's going to be the most fringe of the fringe. We'll, we'll lock these criminals up. We'll take care of this problem. But it became a trend. I mean, in my work at the United Nations, I saw people there trying to champion the idea that pedophilia was another sexual preference. I think, I think this idea of sexual abuse of children has become in some... grossly in some circles in some communities, um, normalized. In fact, there's a recent television, a program on Angel, on the Vid Angel network, um, all about.

people who are involved in this child porn, child sexual abuse thing, and they have actual child porn oppressors on there. And you see what's in their head. And you're like, oh, my word, this has become too normalized. This is too dangerous. This is horrible. So, Representative, you mentioned that four states, Mississippi, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and South Carolina have passed this legislation for civil liability. How long of those laws been on the books to know what kind of positive influence they're having in those states? Oh, I appreciate that. And I wish I could tell you exact years, but they're new. Those are really new just have come in just recently within the last year or two. So this is just kind of like this new movement where everyone's like, why didn't we handle this? Why didn't we do this? And there were people petitioning the Supreme Court and petitioning D.C. to try to do something, which is why Oren Hatch attempted a little something. But then I think the message became very strong. Wait a second. Why aren't we putting this on the books in the States? A lot more needs to be done. Yeah, there was a group of people who engage in protection of child health who started talking about, did you know? And I was actually at a meeting where somebody said, did you know that in your state a victim of child porn can't sue? And I was like, no. I mean, I was. I was blown away. And I had been working with children who had been victims of this stuff. And I didn't know. Hopefully we can get something done. Representative, thanks for a few minutes of your time and keep up the good work. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Joining us on our newsmaker line, that is State Representative, Nicoline Peck. More coming up here on the Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio, 105.9, K&RS. In the 5 o'clock hour, we'll have a discussion about this fan. I think it was at a Cubs game. and it was during the national anthem and a kid in front of him did not stand up he's a teenager he's not he's not he's not it's like he looks like 17 he looks like 17 18 Really, early 20s, maybe. Yeah, he thinks he might be even his early 20s. But the guy slapped him. I mean, cuffed him right on the side of the head. Well, he could tell you, he's probably a veteran. He's an older guy, you know, loves this country, and he actually asked the kid to get up a couple times. The kid doesn't want to do it. He gave him a biff on the back of the head. Yeah, we'll weigh in on this. Yeah. You've got one of those in the back of the head? From my dad, but not my, but not from a stranger. My dad never hit me. He gave us the Vulcan grip. Oh, that would hurt. Right here. Or they pinch the neck. The Biff doesn't hurt hurt, but it does get your attention. I'm here to tell you. That's my stepdad. Just real quick. The Supreme Court, Greg, announced yesterday that they're going to hear a case out of Alaska. This is a crazy one. Okay. This guy, his name is Kenneth Juppie, I believe. He's a Bush pilot, okay, up in Alaska. And a guy came there, and he wanted transportation. He wanted a flight.

from Fairbanks to a tiny town called Beaver in Alaska. A fishing area, right? Well, the guy said, sure, your customer, I'll take you out there. Well, before they took off, for some reason, state police decided to search his plane. Okay, it's a small bush plane, bush pilot plane. What they found was a six-pack of beer. Okay. Now, the town of Beaver is dry. Huh. You are not allowed to bring in alcohol into that community, right? Yes. You know what they did? They seized his plane. So who had the beer? The passenger. The passenger had the beer. He didn't have it. Is he a traveler? Was he aware of these ordinances? Don't know. But apparently he pleaded guilty. The passenger pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. But the state has been holding his plane since it was seized back in April of 2012. Are you kidding? No, no. And he has been going through a series of court challenges trying to get his plane back. There's someone in, is this Alaska, you say? Yeah, this Alaska. There's Alaska and run around in his plane for, you know, for 20 or 13 years? Yeah. 14 years. 14 years, someone's been using his plane. They're just, that's not right. They stole from him. The Supreme Court has finally said, we're going to take up this case. Yes, I should say. You know, it really, a lot of people are saying this could really lead to a decision and the future of civil asset forfeiture. Happy birthday, America. It's time to celebrate and play your favorite Las Vegas casino games by American-owned SpinQuest.com. What's better than fireworks than American pie? Hitting a black check in the palm of your hand, and you won't lose your fingers. Over a thousand games, including slots and live dealers. And $30 point packs are on sale for 10. SpinQuest.com. Buy American players for American players. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with I-Heart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-844-I-Hart. Yes. Which we've had a real debate in this state over. Have we not in the legislature? We had a referendum. We had the people voted that they did not want the law enforcement agencies that seized assets to be able to profit and by profit, I mean able to sell or monetize them for the purposes of their agencies. And so that law that would prohibit that passed in the legislature. And I was back in like 2002. And then...

Later, a couple years later, a bill was proposed to reverse that and passed. Not with my vote, by the way. I did not vote to do that, but it was reversed in the legislative act. And so we've had robust discussions about asset forfeiture in the state of Utah. In the state of Utah. Well, this is what the guy who is playing was seized, he says, I'm in my 80s now. Remember, it was seized back in 2012. I've been fighting this for over a decade because I see it as my duty to ensure the Bill of Rights actually means something in protecting you against government overreach. Well, you know, it'd be one thing if it was drugs and the street value of the drugs were in excess of the man's plane. But a six pack of beer got that, and it wasn't his. It was the passenger who said, okay, I'm wrong. I broke the law. I'm guilty. And the guy giving him the ride is the one that loses his whole plane for doing it? Yeah. No. 14 years. It is unreal to me that that even happened. But, you know, why should I be surprised? It just doesn't make any sense. Well, and it's gone through the courts. And finally, he said, I got, we're going to the Supreme Court on this one. The court accepted, and they're going to take a look at it this fall. You know, it's such an extreme example because probably there's some narcos out there, cartel guys, that, you know, you can't get them on a whole lot, but you can take their a zillion dollar yacht and maybe use it to enforce the law more, but not a six-pack of beer for a plane. Wild story. All right. More coming up. Hour number two is On its way with the Rod and Gregshaw.

The director of this Smithsonian Institute called before Congress today to answer questions about what on earth is going on at the Smithsonian Institute. I would like it better if you said that the director of the Smithsonian Institute has been given their pink slip, told a leave, escorted out of the building with a box in their hands, with all their possessions. That's what I wish I heard. She was so evasive today during this hearing. And of course, here comes Jasmine Crockett. Oh. We know and love her. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. She said it. What did she say? The congressional hearing was a white. White supremacy hearing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Yeah. No, that's the problem. And even those hearings, though, they're so performative now. They're not looking at bills. They're not amending bills to go on the floor to then debate them. It's just a bunch of, you know, it's just, it's just. Theater. That's what it is. I just don't understand. I mean, to me, these museums should be a way to celebrate our history. Now, do we have, are there periods that we aren't real proud of or issues that we are proud of? But aren't these to celebrate America? Instead of tearing it down. Well, look. Isn't that what it's all about? So here's what I don't understand. Growing up, nobody whitewashed anything. It wasn't like I wasn't told what slavery was. It wasn't like the circumstances around the Civil War wasn't well understood. But history in its context and in the time that these things happened in our country, I thought were presented in the context of... the time they were in. And by the way, the time it wasn't as acceptable. That's why we had a civil war. So it's not like America was sitting on its laurels, never caring. Okay. So, and then you saw the civil rights that you saw, you see America and its history good and bad. But what they've done is that they've, they've now said there wasn't any value or there wasn't any. good reason why the founding fathers wanted to see this country formed other than their greed, other than their prejudice, other than their racism, that it was all about profit. There wasn't this, you know, individual liberty that they were pursuing. They've taken a history with its good and it's bad and they've just basically said that everything we see. It's all bad. It was all born from the worst of motivations, from the worst of, you know, your moral failings, your intellectual failings, whatever it may be. That isn't our history. That is not America's history. It's not even close. But that is what you've, what it's devolved into. Well, and you see what these people want. They want to say, and they're saying now, America started slavery. It's all amazing. Five thousand years of written human history and you're going to start and end it with this country. I've been reading in the Old Testament of late. Yeah. There's slavery all over the place. Of course. A people, one people conquers another people and they take them as slaves. It had been going on like you said for 5,000. I mean, there's limitless examples. But, you know, one that comes to mind, we talk about the Spartans and, you know, in Greece. You know what? They were a warrior class. You know what that meant they weren't farmers? You know what they did? The people they conquered, farmed for them, fed them. They were always training. What they had were slaves who did.

the things that other societies they had farmers they had blacksmiths they had those things the spartans were just all about fighting that's all they did and the people that did that for them or the conquered people that they brought in to do it so you know it's and no one's justifying it but my goodness if all you wanted to say about the spartans and that warrior nation and those city states in greece when they stopped king xerces and the persians from invading just giving enough time at thermopoly so they could preserve their histories and everything else If all you want to say is they own slaves. They were just the worst of human beings. I mean, come on. You'd miss the story there. You'd miss it. It is. But interesting to see that focus today. Now, another story that's getting, I think I saw somewhere like 2 million views, is the story of this older man. He's at a recent Chicago Cubs baseball game, okay? They're standing up for the national anthem. But apparently there was a younger fan in front of him. who wasn't standing. And it upset the guy. Now, you, you, by his age, Greg, I want to take a guess he's a veteran. I'm just guessing. That's what I'm, I would guess. We don't know that. But a video shared on X and now on our our X page, you've wanted to go take a look at it. And what is it? We're at Rod and Greg Show. At Rod and Greg Show. I'm looking at it right now. So we link to it. If you have X and you want to see it real quickly. If you go at Rod and Greg Show, you'll see the post. We posted about 10 minutes ago. The guy is so upset. that the kid's not standing and it could be and i say a kid he could be late teens early 20s he leans down and whispers something to him the kid doesn't stand up so what does he do give him a little cuff on the side of the head So here's a, here's, I'll take two angles at this. One, the man's a veteran, he's fought for this country where everybody, and I'm looking at, at, uh, at, at, uh, at, at, uh, at, at, uh, at, at, uh, at Rigley Field here. And I don't see a soul not standing. I mean, this is the, or stand, everybody's standing. Yeah. I don't see anyone sitting as far as I can see. Because the, the person that recorded this interaction here does take his camera and show the, the, you know, those, as much of the park is, is the, the baseball park as he can. So he's showing the whole thing. And I can't see another individual, single individual sitting. So I think that this kid is an outlier. He just refuses to stand. And this guy is a veteran. So, you know, I can see why that would upset this man who's standing there, who's fought for this country. You know what? It sucks to be bored. But when I get on my phone and play real casino games on SpinQuest.com, the time flies by. That two-hour wait at the DMV seems like 10 minutes. Play your favorite slots. Live blackjack, live craps with a live dealer. New players, $30 coin packs are on sale for $10.00. Play SpinQuest.com and you'll never be bored again. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details.

These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. But that's where it ends for me because he does smack him on the back of the head while he's sitting. And now the kid doesn't get aggressive. He doesn't come out of him. He could have turned right around and smacked him. He didn't. He stands straight up. And he doesn't have a word to say. And then there's some people, you can see some people weren't really comfortable with that. And they can see him talking to the kid that just got some guy that got smacked. And they're kind of having, you can't tell what they're saying, but they say something to the older guy too. And he's kind of saying something back. But I don't think it went over well with the people in the immediate vicinity that that guy smacked him in the back of the head. See, and I think the opposite. I think they stood there and probably were telling him good job. Yeah, I don't. I don't. You don't see it? I think I see a point where this guy tries to shake the kid's hand or, you know, give him a fist bump like, you're okay. Like, don't, it's all right. But I... But this guy, I mean, we wanted to bring us up in this hour because part of, you know, some may say, you know, this entitled kid that doesn't know a day, you don't know a day of want sitting there and these, you know, not even respecting the country, which affords him so much, is not just disrespecting the country that has given him so much, but the guy behind him who's fought for this country, it's a, it's disrespectful to him. And he doesn't, this kid doesn't know or care. People might think that's okay for that guy out of anger to smack on the back of the head. You'd never catch me not standing. My grandmother served in World War II in the Navy. My family are veterans and patriots. And so I stood proudly. No one ever had to tell me to. I would never get biffed in the back of the head for not standing because I would always stand. But I don't know that I'm okay with some stranger hitting somebody in the back of the head. I'm not. He had no right to hit the guy. He could have said, hey, man, stand up. Would you please? He didn't have to get him. Now, he's not knocking him out. No, he's not. He's not, he's not, there's no bodily harm. He's not bleeding anywhere. He doesn't have a black guy. It's a pretty good cuff in the back of the head. Yeah. And I think, I think the guy was wrong. I mean, respect him. If, in fact, he's a veteran, yes, he fought for this country. We love this country. But unfortunately in this country, you do have a right to sit down. You are not forced to stand up for the National Anthem. It is kind of one of the things that we have in this country is freedom of speech. Now, have you ever found yourself in a situation at a stadium or a big event? People ask to stand and honor the country with the National Anthem. And I've been to events where they don't put their hand over their heart. They don't take their hat off, which really bugs me.

I've been lucky. I haven't. Have you been in some of those events where I've looked around and I went, I just want to say, you jerks, take your dang hat off. Maybe because when we do, when the national anthem is when I've been to, because I've been to a lot of sporting events growing up. My grandmother took me to Pittsburgh Pirate Games my whole life. I've always gone. I still, to this day, when that national anthem is sung, I take my hat off and I stare at that flag. I don't really look around. There might be people that aren't, but I don't notice it because I'm singing. You know, even if it's to myself, the National Anthem, I'm looking at that flag. It's a big moment for me. That's one that's really important to me. I've not, I haven't looked around, so I have never noticed anyone blatantly disrespecting the National Anthem or not standing for the flag or not taking their hat off. But I have to also say I haven't been really scanning my immediate surroundings when that happens because I'm immersed in the moment in the National Anthem. I have, however. Been on a campus when I was young. Really? In 1988, I was, you know, I was from Pittsburgh. I drove across the country to see my friends who were in Provo, going to BYU. I bought a BYU hat, a shirt, and then I drove up to see a friend, my dumb friend D. I was going to Ricks. He was signing up for summer semester. And I offended an elderly gentleman who had very strong religious convictions of which I was violating and was unaware that I was. And he got mad at me, and he touched me. And so I was walking. He jabbed you in his chest with his fingers. So with my BYUu t-shirt on, I was wide shorts on. And I was, heaven forbid, I was walking on that campus barefoot. And I did not know, and I did not understand the gravity of the. violation of which i was committing and an elderly gentleman who worked or was there he worked at rick's in some roller capacity saw me walking in the grass noticed that i did not have shoes and socks on and came up to me and point blank rang like right up in front of me and started poking my chest saying, judging from that shirt, you should know the rules around here. Pushing me pretty hard. So he assumed you're a BYU who stood and you should know the rules. Now, you were telling me, you can't, you can't go shoe list on a BYU here. No, you can walk around bare for you. In fact, I remember when you could not, you could wear like, you could wear loafers without socks. It was like the biggest deal. Like you could, you could actually wear shoes without socks. That was like a big dress code concession that was given. So. You know, once I moved after my mission, when I lived in Provo, I started to understand the rules a little bit better. But at 18, I had no idea what this guy was talking about. But I'll tell you what, him poking me in the chest, that wasn't well received by me. And I didn't strike the man. He was elderly. But he did hear from me that I don't know what in the world you're talking about, but stop touching me. And so I watched this video, and I don't think what the man did. was appropriate. Well, let's ask for a lot. Let's ask you. Because there may be some people out there. Maybe I'm soft. Yeah, right to smack the kid.

888-5708010-10, triple-8-57080-10 on your cell phone, dial pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, or leave us a message on our talkback line by downloading the IHeart Radio app. Your calls and comments coming up on the Rod and Greg show. Slapped a fan at a Cubs game for apparently not standing for the national anthem. He basically told the kid, hey, get up and respect your country, something along those lines. He didn't, so the kid gave him a tap on the side of the head. head or a cuff whatever you want to go yeah biff you used to call a biff on the back of the head we want to take your phone calls we've also got some comments on our talkback line before we go to our calls let's listen to a few of these comments does anybody happen to know whether or not those two guys were related to each other or even knew each other or we're just jumping to conclusions that they didn't have a clue as to either one of them I don't believe, were they related? I don't believe they were. It doesn't say it in the stories that we've seen. But I thought about that. If they did, they didn't want to sit in the same row. So they're sitting in different rows. So this kid's sitting, and they're not sitting right in front of each other. So the older guy is behind him, in the row behind. So the left of the right over. Yeah. And I see their seats around that aren't full. So it doesn't look like it's a group. So I would say that if you're not sitting on the same row. and you're not and there are seats that you could be sitting there i would say that he's not related to him here's another comment on the talkback line hey guys this is gustavo from moab that bop on the head that was nothing i went to eight years of catholic school i got bopped in the head with a hardcover book That was nothing. That was a love cat. So you're a veteran of Cadley school. I went eight years of Burroughs school. We didn't get bopped on the head. We got slammed on the knuckles with a ruler. Yeah. That hurts. So maybe you should have a higher talent. Maybe you should see this and go, this kid got away easy compared to what the nuns were doing to you. All right. Was the guy right, wrong? What should be done? Your reaction to it? 888-57080-10 on your cell phone, dial pound 250 and say, hey, Ron, or leave us a message on our talkback line. We've got some callers, Greg. Let's go to our callers. Let's go to Al in Salt Lake City. Al. Welcome to the Ron and Greg show. Thank you, sir. Yeah, I had just retired from the Marine Corps and went to a Wittenberg University game as a civilian, so to speak. And there was two gentlemen in front of me after the announcer announced to stand up, take, remove your hats. They just ignored him, and I politely said, you guys need to stand up and remove your hats. They still ignored me, so I actually smacked both of them side the head. They actually stood up, took off their ball caps, didn't say two words, and they stayed there at the same seats for the entire game and never said a word. Wow. I have no issues with it. Were they younger or older than you? Yeah, how old were those kids, guys, those students?

College students. Well, I would say probably in their 20s. They were probably juniors or seniors in college. Okay. But after that, they didn't say a thing too. They probably didn't dare. Maybe this was Alan. Did you go to a Cubs game recently, Al? This looks like it might be you. This whole exchange looks like what you just described. No, and I'll tell you what, the nuns used to smack my knuckles, too. Yeah, there we go. See, the veterans of pro-kill schools. Yeah, I am one. You understand the treatment we all went through. Books on the head, but let me tell you what. There were two of them that I recall. Knuckles with a ruler. Whack! And then kneel in the corner staring at the wall on linoleum floors. Man, I don't know what these nuns would have done to me if I went to a public school. Because I went to a public school, I got paddled three times hard in seventh grade. I mean, hold on to the chair. They get another teacher to witness it, and they whack hard. I got paddled three separate times in the seventh grade in a public school. What would those nuns do? Because those private schools, they got a little more latitude. They do. Yeah. They got a lot of latitude. Don't know what. Our caller said he got hit by a book. Yeah, yeah. Oh, they don't be on the head with a book. Sure, I've been there, done that too. All right, more coming up and more of your phone calls on the Tuesday edition of the Rodding Greg show. We're talking about the older man who slapped a fan at the Cubs game for not standing for the national anthem. You can see the video on our X page. More coming up on the Rod and Greg show. This video has gotten more than 2 million views. So people are interested in this. It's about an older man. He's at a Chicago Cubs baseball game. Being asked, they're asked to stand for the National Anthem. And this young man, I don't want to say late teens, early 20s, in front of him sat during the National Anthem. Well, apparently this man didn't like it. Asked him to get up. He didn't. And he gave him a loose tap on the side of the head. Or a cuff on the side of the head. It wasn't a tap. It was just a bit. It was just a hand right across the back of the head. Just boom, right on the back of the head. Stand up and get up. His hair moved to me. I think he's right. I don't think this kid's a high school kid. I think he might be in his early 20s. Well, could be. But there's a lot of reaction. Did this guy do the right thing? I don't think he did. He can ask him to stand up, but you can't hit somebody. So here's what's fascinating, Rod. Okay. This, this, where I'm watching it and where we've posted it on, on our X page, Rod and Greg. at Rod and Greg Show. It's on a site called Baseball History Nut. So it's not a political site. Okay. So it's showing stand up or get smacked and it shows the exchange happening. But this is not that I can tell. It doesn't look like it's a political site. So you'd wonder what kind of reaction because it has an audience. It's more broad. They're not coming from cut from one, you know, cloth politically. Anyway, the reactions have been interesting. Some said, Love our country and baseball, but still don't understand why we, I hate that one. Let me find the one I don't like. Here's one I think. I don't agree with the man sitting down with the national anthem playing. I serve this country. I also don't agree with the man putting hands on him. It hurts my heart. Our younger generation doesn't love this country enough to show respect. One guy says, stand up and give respect to this country. Anyone who hates the U.S. should be deported and refused all benefits.

You want to be a piece of crap? Do it in Somalia, Iran, North Korea, China, or Russia. You'll be dead in a week over there if you do. Another one said the smack was excessive, but needed in this time of disrespect by those who have no clue. There is a lot of sympathy for the guy that hit him. I've hit the kid. Now, I'm not in that camp. I neither am I. I don't think you should have. I find it to be disrespectful. I think it to be wrong. But if, and again, the one Talk Back Live says, are they related? Now, if that's his grandfather. I'm okay then. All of a sudden, I'm like, Graham just hit me in back of the head. And then I would be fine. But we don't think it is. We don't know if it is. No, because they're sitting in different rows and they're not sitting, I mean, they're just not right adjacent to one another. And there's enough seats that it looks like if you were with a family member, you'd be sitting closer to them. So I don't believe he knows, he knows him. I can see, I just don't, I don't approve it. I don't think anyone should be hitting anybody else, period. I don't. Don't hit me. Don't touch me and I don't touch you. How about that? I got it. I got it, okay? For not standing during the national anthem, like this kid does. Does that equate to burning the American flag? Which I can stand. Yeah, you know, I think this is a more passive protest or just I don't care. This is more of a maybe, um, uh, but apathy not a not a proactive way of protesting this country but maybe he's apathetic but i'll tell you it i can see why it would offend people but not to the point where you actually touch a stranger and hit him in the back then now if you tapped him on the shoulder just when you talk about touch hey you know please stand up you see this whole stadium you see what's happening here there's kind of a trend going on you want to be you want to be part of this you live in this country i i think you can I mean, even then he wants to share his opinion, but if you wanted to tap him on the shoulder, but he smacks him right in the back of the head, the kid just stands up. One guy said, and he must be an older guy, he says, the stadium asked all who were, so he was, it must have been in attendance to the game. The stadium asked all who were able to stand. Remove your hat, and stand if you can. Yes, and he said, they sang, God bless America, and then the anthem. That means this kid sat down that whole time, and he says, he earned it. My knees are gravel. Even I stood for both. Okay, so it's, um, You know, it says another comment. It was pretty common when I was younger to get put in check by older men for being disrespectful. We had a lot less disrespectful people running around back then. I would agree with that too. Let me tell you what. I bet Greg, after World War II, those veterans who came home during the 50s and 60s, early part of the 60s, they saw people disrespecting the flag. They did not put up with it. They'd just come home.

from a war that changed the world and they weren't about to tolerate it yeah this is kind of my sentiment here it says it would have been a whole problem it would have been a whole it would have been a whole it would have been a whole it would have been a whole it doesn't matter to me but put hands on somebody that would have been uh the last time doing that if it were me i mean i don't want to be i mean i don't think you should be able to i don't think you ought to hit people i mean i don't i don't think you should hit someone especially anyway i just i think that's the Here, a guy said I stood for the Star-Spangled Banner every time it's been played in my presence over seven decades, over a seven-decade life because I revere the U.S. And because I revere the U.S. Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the second inaugural, and all the rest. I hope the old guy gets arrested. It's not his right or his place to forcibly impose his conscience on someone else. He's the one disrespecting the flag and the freedom it represents, not the guy who refused to stand. I think the guy is welcome to share his opinion if he wants. I mean, I'm a grown man, and I want people to stay out of my business. If someone wants to volunteer their opinion to me and I didn't ask for it, I don't know that I would be great with that either. But that's an exchange. But when you hit someone, you went to a different level to me. You cannot touch anybody. Like you experienced, you had someone poking you in the chest. Yeah. Poking me in the chest because I was walking barefoot on Rick's College, and I didn't know. I had no idea that I was violating the rules. I didn't know. Yeah. And so the guy poking me in the chest yelling at me. It just didn't put me in the right mindset. You know what I mean? Well, I don't think you did. But I didn't touch the guy back. I didn't. I just told him better quit poking me. Don't touch me. Just stop it. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. All right. Let's go to the phones. See what you have to say tonight. Oh, I've had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck? Brett Ski, I got you. I've had so much luck on SpinQuest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just $10 bucks. $10 for 30. I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeart media a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-Ehart. Here on the Rod and Greg Show, let's go to Cadesville and hear from Ron. Ron, how are you? Welcome to the show. Good. How are you fellows doing tonight? We're doing wonderfully. Thank you. Long time listener, first time caller. Love you guys. I think you're awesome. I got to admit, I have not seen the video yet. So keep that in context, all right? Yeah. I turned 50-year-olds in February. I know you guys are a few years older than me. At what point did we decide?

A couple years, right? Yeah. Sorry. At what point did we decide it's not okay to give a little slap in the back of the head? Not like assault the guy. Get his attention. Give him some eye contact. Let him know, hey, come on. We're American. What are we doing here? Let's go. When did that go to the wayside? Yeah, I know. I don't you mean, Ron. I expect, you know, I expected my take would be challenged a bit. I hear what you're saying, Ron. Look, I would be more comfortable if these are family members. If this is grandpa looking at grandson saying, are you kidding me? I wouldn't think that's excessive at all. I think that space is there, their family. I think it's when it's a stranger. That's where, to me, you've crossed. But I'm going to agree with Ron a little bit on this one, Greg. I think years ago it would have been perfectly acceptable. Matter of fact, my parents would have said, he should I hit you harder? Yeah, no. You know, times have changed. And Ron's probably seen it right, and we just have too many phones with cameras and videos on them now, watching all this stuff, you know, and drawn all these conclusions. Yeah, Ron, very good point. Thank you for calling. Thank you for listening. Being a first time caller, you're welcome to call back anytime. Yes. But I think Ron is right. Years ago, this would not have been news. No. No, yeah, I get it. I just, maybe I'm still seeing it from the prism of being the kid who got poked by the old, crazy old man. You are. And I don't like it. So that's where I'm coming from. But you know what? To Ron's point, wasn't a five alarm fire. No one's calling the cops. Nothing ever happened other than me telling me he's crazy and he better quit touching me. But, but, you know, this wasn't, it wasn't like when that happened. You know, it wasn't viral. People weren't opining forever about it. It was just, it's probably happened a million times before and after I got poked. I would imagine so. Yeah, I still didn't like it. All right, more of your calls and comments. Your talkback comments coming up on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio, 1059, KNRS. Interesting responses to our discussions tonight about this. I actually love the collective will of this audience. That Cubs fan who hit another Cubs fan because they didn't stand up for the national anthem, correct? Yes. This comes from one of our listeners. It is clear you two have never served. We never had. He's right. I have not served in the military. He said, my dad has. I have grow up here. Now, I am not without family. I clean that up a little bit, by the way, because it would offend you. I don't want to offend you. So I cleaned it up. He used the anatomically correct term for your family jewels just. I thought, you have no marbles. Marbles? Marbles.

So here's the thing. I have grandparents that served. I have an uncle that was in the Navy. I've been around the military, those family members that have served. Here is my proffer. Here's what I'm going to say. Because I hear you. I hear our audience. I'm reading the comments. People think this kid is completely deserving and begging to be hit in the back of the head because he's so disrespectful to our national anthem. Look. I don't excuse the kid's behavior. I don't think that he should be sitting at all. And it's nice when people learn some lessons. All I'm saying is this. If you can hit him in the back of the head because you think he's disrespectful, if you get hit in the back of the head. Yes. By someone. Can you, and you think that's disrespectful, can you hit back? And if the answer to that is yes, then no harm, no foul. As long as it's, if we're going Wild Wild West here and we can hit anyone we want because of being disrespectful over something as important as our country, and I get it, if I get hit and I think that has been disrespectful. Now, this kid, if he turned around, he might regret hitting this guy back, but I'm saying if we find it as socially acceptable that the person hit feels like he's just been disrespectful to a degree that he wants to hit him back, if we're good with that, then I say that's a two-way street and I can live with that. I can adjust my opinion from don't hit anyone to if you hit someone, get ready to be hit back. You have a right to hit back is what you said. But don't be crying that you got hit back if you hit somebody. And you could argue with self-defense. Like I said, if we think it's fine that he got hit and he deserved it, if the kid that got hit or the person that gets hit thinks that he's been, he's been disrespected to a degree that he doesn't like it. he can hit back. And if we're good with that two-way street, then I, then I'm good with him getting smacked as long as that guy, you get smacked back and we're still cool. But if we're not cool with that, if he can smack him but not get smacked back, nah, I'm not good with that. You're not cool with that. Well, you would have an argument to hit him back. That's what I say. Wouldn't you? I mean, and if cops came and you'd say, hey, you can't, he'd say, he hit me first. Yep. I'm just responding. Yep. I mean, because the guy's going to watch the rest of the game behind him. When's he going to hit him again? What if he doesn't cheer loud enough for the home run? That's true. Master. You know, I don't know. There's a litmus test going on now. You know, it's funny. You got the guy behind you and he's a bit salty. What I brought up earlier, it was in Chicago. I'm surprised one of them didn't pull out a gun and shoot the other irony here. We're talking about a biff in the back of head in the war-torn zone of Chicago, where there's more murders than in, you know, in Middle East right now. So, yeah, there's that irony, too, that this little biff on the back of the head is a bigger deal than all the murders that happen every single night in that city. But I will adjust my opinion to the feedback we've received from our good listeners. And I will say that as long as it's good for the goose, good for the gander, as long as that kid can turn around and smack the guy back because he felt disrespectful. And we think that's okay. Then let the games begin. I'm good with that. I can live with those rules. But you need rules. It's what separates us from the animals. Rod, you've got to have rules. Got to have rules. Okay. All right. Let's go to the phones. We've got a caller. Brian is in Tuilla tonight. Brian, welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. What are your thoughts on this, Brian?

Rod, Mike, and Greg, my thoughts are, like, what's the line? Like, if it's okay, if it's patriotism, like in past generations, yeah, it might have been more acceptable to do this, but what if the kid just said something crude? Is it okay to smack them? If it's a stranger or chewing gum and the person didn't like it and it's disrespectful and you're talking to him and smack them, like, so what's the line? Is it okay just because it's patriotism? Yeah, it's a good question, Ryan. Good point, Ryan. And I'll tell you where my line is, if I get smacked in the back of the head, okay? My line is I just was smacked in the back of my head, and that's a line crossed. So now it's on. So if he tapped you on the shoulder, you're okay. If he tapped me on the shoulder, I think that's fine. He smacked them. A smack in the back of head, cuff in the head, whatever you want to call it. You call the Biff. Yeah, Biff in the back of the head. You think that's too aggressive. Yeah, and look. You know, one of two things can happen here. The older guy can, because he's older, he could whoop him if he tried to hit him back. And then that just gets worse for that kid. But he's also younger. So he's a bit more nimble. So he could actually biff him right back. And I would try to return volley. I mean, I would only give as good as you get. I wouldn't try to, like, you know, pummel the guy for it. But I think I'd give as good as I got it. And I guess that would be my, that would be my, I would adjust my opinion from he had no business hitting him to. If you can give as good as you get, then let's go. Let's see what happens. All right, hour number three of the Rod and Greg Show coming up. Utah Senator Mike Lee will join us in the coming hour. We invite you to listen to that conversation coming up. Right now, there's an interesting article written by our next guest. Jared Whitley, he is a principal of Whitley political media talking about spending on the SNAP program, which basically food stamp program, but how that money is being funneled to terrorists. Let's dig into this. Joining us on our newsmaker line is Jared. Jared, how are you? Welcome back to the Rod and Greg show. Doing great. Thanks for having me back, my friends. Exactly what's going on, Jared. What have you found out? Okay, so this is something actually the secretary of treasury itself made noise about this. I'm just sort of drawing extra attention to it. So as you mentioned, there's the SNAP, formerly food SNAP program, which costs the federal government about $100 billion a year. And we know that there's about $10.5 billion lost improper payments for fraud, right? So that's a pretty bad percentage right there. Right. So like in business, they strive for six sigma. You heard that term six sigma. That means one mistake in a million. Here with the food stamp program, the government is making one mistake in 10, right? And some of it's just fraud. Some of it's just a mistake. But we know that some of it has been funneled to the Islamic terror group al-Shabaab, right? So that's pretty bad. So in the one big beautiful bill that the president spearheaded last year, He created some provisions to create anti-fod mechanisms so that the federal government isn't throwing money away, certainly not throwing money away to terrorists who want to kill us. And there's, these are good provisions. They kick in in 2028. What it would be is just if a state crosses over a certain threshold of improper payments, I believe the threshold is 6%, then the state is on the hook to cover the cost.

for that fraud, right? So it creates an incentive for state governments to do the right thing so the federal government doesn't get ripped off. There are some in Washington, mostly Democrats, notably Senator Amy Klobuchar, who's trying to kick the can on this down the road so it won't kick in in 2028 so it'll get in later, basically so that Democrats don't have to do that so they can continue the fraud machine. And we need to not let them do that. So it doesn't surprise me that the swamp and its membership want to keep the status quo, even if it means funding terrorists. So I guess it's sad, but it doesn't raise an eyebrow for me. My hope, though, when Secretary Scott Bessent, who might be the greatest Treasury Secretary I've ever known since I've been, I mean, who's known Treasury Secretary like him, he says he's going after this. He's actually going to go and investigate. Claims. I mean, he's just not going to lay, he's not waiting for Amy Klobuchar to agree. He's going to get it himself. Can he, can he do anything? Can our Treasury Secretary do anything about this now versus Congress someday? So it can certainly invest, the Treasury Department can certainly investigate fraud in the federal budget at any time they want, right? That's their thing. That's what they're in charge of. The thing that we're waiting for 2028, which still so long away, to kick in is the punishment, basically, that state governments that don't prevent fraud within their borders will have to chip in to cover that. to basically pay for the fraud. It's going on under the noses. But yes, the Department of Treasury can look at rooting out fraud right now. What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and we're driving through the States in the BluffMobile, and the best thing that we can do is play our favorite casino-style games on SpinQuest. They have over 1,000 games, including Live Dealer, Blackjack, and Crops, with tons of slots and unlimited. You can get a $30 coin pack for just $10 for new users. Sign up today. Go to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeart media a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-844-I-Hart. Wow.

Wow. Where does Utah's congressional delegation stand on this, Jared? I'm talking Mike Lee and John Curtis. Okay. So Mike Lee was actually introduced the bill, Snap Reform and Upward Mobility Act, which became the anti-fraud provisions in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. So he has been the leader on this. And Senator Curtis, he hasn't necessarily been out in front like this as well. But in my article, I click a, I'm linked to an op-ed he has on his Senate website where he's talking about the need for accountability. Says if we don't act now, we risk breaking the system we're trying to protect when that happens, those who will suffer the most are the very people we set out to help. So if we don't make the provisions now to create, to make this. these systems more financially viable, then we won't be able to help anyone. So I think our delegation is mostly on the right side. If you look at the SNAP fraud rates, Utah is absolutely one of the best, right? The average fraud rate for last year was 10.5% or fraud or error rate. And Utah's was, we were in the... top 10 for the country at just five and a half percent. So we're basically half below the average, which is great. And although we talked about these are, I mean, mostly it's Democrats who are out standing in the way of this kind of fraud prevention, but we have to say the state with the absolute worst snap payment error rate is Alaska, which last year was 20, over 23 percent. And the last year of the Biden administration in 2023. Their, or I guess second to last year of the Biden administration, their error rate was 60 percent, right? So I don't know what's going on Alaska, but they need to get their act together. You know, here's my question. You know, there's good reasons and real reasons. You know, they'll give you some good reason of, you know, the people you would disadvantage or the unintended consequences, blah, blah, blah. Sure. But I can't even imagine that some of these Democrats really are excited about or even supportive of funneling money to terrorists, which is what they're doing if they want to keep the status quo. Is there a real reason that they oppose this and want to protect the status quo that's not that draconian like funneling money to terrorists? So, I mean, the thing is, if you'd ask a Democrat 20 years ago, do you want to send money to terrorists? They all would have said no. If you asked them 10 years ago, they probably all would have said no. But nowadays, they have gone so far off the cliff that the people, like one of the ways that you, like the purity test that you win, primary elections in the Democrat Party by saying you like Hamas better than Israel, right? So while that's probably still the minority, I think mostly Democrats are just perfectly comfortable with this kind of money laundering scheme because wherever the money ends up, it usually ends up in their coffers.

Jared, on a much broader question, it almost seems that this happens on a daily basis anymore that someone within the Trump administration is announcing a crackdown on fraud. It happened again today concerning California. First of all, does the public realize the amount of fraud that is being discovered and uncovered, and do you think it's making a difference? So, I'll answer your second very first. I certainly hope it makes a difference. I don't know any instance where it doesn't help to have more people cracking down on this kind of stuff. I mean, we talked about... cracking down on this kind of graft or the term that gets used in Washington is fraud, waste, and abuse, right? And we're talking more about taking care of fraud, waste, and abuse more now than I feel like we did 20 years ago when I moved to Washington, D.C. The thing that I hope is I hope when the average American, when your listeners, when they hit this, they think this is a sign of the system working, not that the system is broken, right? Like, if, if. It would be worse if we just covered it up and never talked about it at all, right? Like the fact that we have this open society, the fact that we have the free press where I can write about this stuff and you guys can talk about it, that means that the mechanisms that are in there to make sure our government run better are hopefully working. So we hope people don't get demoralized. I hope when people hear about fraud, waste, and abuse coming out of Washington, they don't say, oh, it's hopeless. I hope they make their reaction to this is we're moving in the right direction. So here's the part, and I agree with you. I've actually made this very point to someone who is very frustrated that we're not seeing indictments and we're not in certain topics that we now know about. And I said the fact that we all know it universally is so much further along than where we were when we were in the dark. So I agree with what you're saying. Yeah. But I see this trend where if it's right of center. uh people can be outraged about just about anything but if it's left of center it can be you could have a ski mask and a gun in your hands robin an old lady and you'd be just fine if it's if it's a if it's a liberal doing it and it's a conservative complaining about it it seems like just a just robbery itself has a has a political uh lean to it isn't it is it getting worse in terms of how we digest fraud and what our response to it is as a people I don't, unfortunately, I think your summary is right. I don't think that there is a sense of principles. I think there's only a sense of party. Oh, that's sad. And it's very sad. But again, when we're talking about some of this money is going into the hands of the terror group, Al-Shabaab. These guys are pure evil, right? They've been involved in the Somalian Civil War. They've been involved in using child soldiers. They were involved in the October 2017 Mogadishu bombings, 2020, Somali Ministry of Education bombings. I mean, I'm just looking at...

the terror groups Wikipedia page here. So this is just what we know about. It's doubtless much, much worse. But if like $1 of American taxpayer money is going to these people who want to kill us, then we need to react just as powerfully and as swiftly and as unitedly as we did on September 12th, 2001. And unfortunately, today's Democrat Party is perfectly comfortable with this kind of thing going on. It's absolutely repugnant. It sure is. Jared is always good work on this, and thanks for joining us tonight. Thank you. My pleasure. Appreciate you guys. All right. On our newsmaker line, that's Jared Whitley. He is with the Whitley political media group talking about snap money going to terrorist groups. It's true. Wow. Nuddy. There's so much fraud. And the Trump administration, I think, Greg, is doing a job that nobody has wanted to tackle. And I mean, like I said, a day doesn't go by where we don't have a story of more fraud being found somewhere in some government program. I just think it's getting so egregious that how much can your brain actually absorb? Yeah. Where you, to what degree are you offended? Are you outraged? And how much more can you be? Yeah. I mean, it just just, again, to see SNAP benefits going to terrorist groups and specifically this one, I would just think that would be. everybody began. Yeah. We wouldn't have to get political on that topic, but here we are. I think it is. I think it's a party issue, not a issue of policy. You know what it's sad is America was outraged. How many years ago when we discovered that the Air Force was paying like $600 for a toilet seat or a toilet, right? Or a hammer, yeah. We're more outraged at that than we aren't this fraud. Yeah. And that's what's sad. It is. And so I think our brains can only absorb so much of this recklessness. Yeah. I don't know. You'd think that Congress and those that we would elect would be more resolved to deal with this than they are. I just saw John Cornyn. He wants USAID money, which we know is the big funnel for a lot of bad things. Once it back? If that's not going back to Africa, that USAID money, he's not going to hold up all of Trump's nominees to the extent he can. That is just unacceptable. He's just maddy lost his primary. It's pretty shameful that that's the kind of quid pro quo. These senators, these Republican senators are pushing on the president. Yeah. All right. More coming up here on the Rodin' Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio, 1059, KNRS. I think it's 105 days away from the midterm elections. It's coming up fast. Wow. So I'm always, I'm always trying to hang on to my summer. I'm trying to ask you how long do you think we have left in summer. I don't want to see the fall come, but I... What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and you know what's more American than America's 250th birthday? Supporting American-owned companies like SpinQuest, America's number one social casino with over 1,000 games like Live Dealer Blackjack and Craps. They're offering new users a $30 coin package for just $10. Go to SpinQuest.com and sign up today. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details.

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the job that Donald Trump is doing as president. He still has that magic touch. We'll see if it carries over to South Carolina, but we've seen it in primaries this year, Senate primaries, and that's because he is still a very popular man, historically popular, when it comes to his own party, liking and approving of the job that he's doing. 83% of Republicans like the job that Donald Trump is doing. I have a question, Greg. Yes. What's Wongworth Republicans here in the state of Utah, who right now I think are giving an approval rating of 53%. Yeah. Can you explain that to me? I cannot. I cannot. No, look, I'll tell you that I'm excited, but we don't have a lot of information about this yet. September 9th and 10th in Dallas, Texas, we're going to have a Republican convention. I don't remember ever living through one of these, but they want to have a midterm convention that kind of brings kind of the enthusiasm that the National Republican Convention has. But I don't hear. I don't hear a lot about what that convention is going to look like or how it's going to be run. I don't even think we were on Talk Show Row for 24. I don't know that I heart. You're going to have one. Has got the memo yet on what that. But that would be fun. I think that a midterm convention to really rally, the whole key is to get out the vote. You have people that like to vote for Trump that don't really like politics, but they came out to vote for Trump. You need to reach those voters and say we've got to get some, and especially where we've had some change in the primaries where we don't have the coronans and we don't have the Bill Cassidy's from Louisiana. You got some guys that I think would do the work that would really support the president in his final two years of his term. You've got to come out to vote. You've got to get that voter excitement's got to be there. Vote, vote, vote. All right, more coming up. Final half hour of the Rod and Greg Show on Talk Radio 105.9, KNRS. It's kind of busy. Yeah. Yeah. So I texted him yesterday. He's been a little busy. Yeah. And, you know, sent him a message. He thought it was really important. And he was on the floor of the Senate, the well of the Senate making his most impassion plea to pass the Save America Act. And my phone, I'm just like texting him about something I think, which in reality wasn't near as important as the work he was doing for it on behalf of Utah and the country by trying to get to Save America Act pass. So, you know, and a guy like him, by the time he's done with that speech, he's got 150 texts that come in after mine. I thought he big-time me. Yeah. I thought he's blowing me off, but he didn't. Yeah, he didn't. I just had very poor timing. Yeah, well, we had a chance to talk to the Senator a short time ago. Of course, Greg mentioned his efforts on the Save America ID Act, which basically you show your ID if you vote in federal election. Not a big deal, but apparently it scares the living daylights out of the Democrats. But before we got into weightier subjects, we asked the Senator if, in fact, he has a photo ID so he can participate in Olive Gardens, never. ending pasta pass. Well, I've got an ID. I mean, I've got my driver's license, which is real ID compliant. I've got my U.S. Senate ID. I do not have an Olive Garden specific ID, but I assume they would accept that. This is all a very amusing way of illustrating the fact that you don't have to be the world's greatest superpower government. in order to carry out something that can verify a person's identity. Olive Garden can do it. Disneyland can do it. Bush gardens, like every pharmacy, every airline, every place that checks IDs, and they realize that it's important to check an ID where it matters whether you are who you claim to be. If something bad can happen when somebody falsely claims to be someone they're not,

Then they check for ID. Voting should be no different. In fact, that should be a top priority is to make sure that before somebody votes in the U.S. federal election, that they should have to prove who they are. Hey guys, Lady Luck here. Are you going on any road trips this summer? I know I'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips. And being that I'm going to be passenger princess, I love playing on SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest has all of my favorite slot games, live blackjack, live craps. Head on over to SpinQuest right now and get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeart media a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-844-I-Hart. You know, Senator, I think the reason why, I think it's 72% nationally, but I think it's in the 70s for Democrats, 90s for Republicans in terms of believing we should have ID when voting so our votes aren't canceled out. For all the reasons that you just described that we need an ID, even during COVID, you needed more than an ID. You needed a piece of paper that showed a medical procedure had occurred, that you had received a shot. All of those layers of identification and verification, what is the real reason that your colleagues in the Senate just will not do this? Because you can't say women are too dumb once they get married to ever vote again. You can, but you might not be married long if you're married when you say it. What is the real reason? There's good reasons and real reasons. What is the real reason for this? It's got everybody just completely puzzled. Well, the charitable way of putting it is that they're afraid that some of their voters might be excluded from voter registration files. The uncharitable way of putting it is also that they're afraid that too many of their voters might be excluded from the voter registration files, meaning to whatever degree that they believe that their voting base consists to any significant degree of people who are not supposed to be voting. then this would be of concern for them. And one can argue that when a bill is that popular among Democrat voters and Republican voters alike, this is one of the reasons, perhaps the driving reason why they oppose it. They're afraid that they might lose elections if it passes. Now, if they were afraid that they would lose elections because it would pass and that legal, legitimate voters would be unable to cast their votes.

then I would be open to figuring out what we could do in this bill to make that not happen. But they have yet to identify anything that could be done in the bill to make it better. They see no interest in dealing with it, and they instead continue to deny that there is any problem. To me, that suggests that they're not operating with serious legislative proposals here. They're not negotiating. in good faith. It's far too easy for them to say, we hereby declare ourselves to be in a state of filibuster, even though we don't want to and currently don't have to. speak in order to maintain our zombie filibuster of this thing. So we're just going to kill it because we think this is better for us. That's shameful. Well, Senator, didn't Elissa Slotkin even admit it last week, basically telling some meeting that she had or giving a speech where she basically said, look, if the Save America Act passes, Democrats will never win another election again. I mean, that's stretching it a little bit, isn't it? Well, it's either stretching it a little bit or it's a huge admission. And I'm not sure which one it is, but either way, it's bad for Democrats because it's either a huge stretch and she's just lying or badly, badly mistaken or alternatively, they really do have reason to believe that enough of their voting base consists of non-citizens who being non-citizens are ineligible to vote in U.S. elections. Either way, very bad news for Democrats, and she shouldn't have admitted that. She's not alone on that, by the way. You've got other Democrat politicians in Washington, D.C., including other senators who have made similar comments over the last few months. And each time, I think they're admitting far more than they realized. You know, Senator, it just came out today. New Jersey Governor Cheryl, she claims that a software error mistakenly registered about 6,600 non-citizens to vote. But here's the little wrinkle in that story that I don't know if any of this will get attention. But these were people that honestly, when they were going in the DMB or whatever, checked the box that said, are U.S. citizen and checked it no. And after checking no, 6,600 individuals in New Jersey alone were registered to vote. That's the ones that didn't even try any kind of voter fraud. They said no, and they were still registered to vote. They're saying, well, of those 6,600, not a lot of them voted. It wouldn't have changed the outcome of the election. Just that story alone, doesn't it tell you there's just something bigger going on? If you just have one glimpse and you see something like that. That can't be the only time and the only instance on how people that shouldn't be voting are allowed to vote. Now, that's exactly right, Greg. And I believe New Jersey is one of those states that is refusing to cooperate with federal officials on a full scale, fulsome review of the voter registration files to get at this very issue, to figure out who is registered to vote, who's not supposed to be because they're a non-citizen, for example. So what they've admitted to.

is itself huge. Six thousand oopsies of, oh, sorry, we did this. And I'm sorry, but software doesn't register people to vote. People register people to vote. And if their software is so bad that it did this 6,000 times, supposedly with respect to people who did not check the box and did not sign their name saying, yes, I want to register to vote with my driver's license application, that is indicative of much broader problems. And I suspect that the total number is substantially north of 6,000. And I believe that they've identified hundreds, maybe three or 400 that they know of, that they have admitted, who have voted among those. I'd actually be surprised if it's not higher than that. But regardless, even a few hundred is way too money, and that's a few hundred votes that could in some circumstances determine the outcome of an election. Opening us up, making us extremely vulnerable to foreign election interference, which is part of what President Trump spoke about Thursday night when he declassified all these reports detailing how vulnerable our elections have become. And the extent to which. Some of our adversaries, including Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and even some non-state actors, possess the capability to compromise our election infrastructure. Meanwhile, we've got this known vulnerability that's a natural outgrowth of the National Voter Registration Act. We've got to, at a minimum, plug that known vulnerability, or else we are acting with reckless disregard to known vulnerabilities in our election security. Election security, very, very important. And Senator Leeds fighting it every step of the way, trying to make our elections more secure. The Save America Act is very simple. Every poll you see, and I saw a new poll today from Latino voters who favor it by about 80%. I just think it's so naturally intuitive. I just can't understand. Well, I'm afraid that they want cheating. They want a lack of chain of custody. They don't want a solid chain of custody. And when I say they, the swamp, people that want to win by means that are other than one man, one vote, a person one vote. And that's a big, big problem. And Senator Lee has been asked, I think there are a couple others who are trying to stop the August recess. which is about to come up. Well, if we had just a second more time, I wanted to say, would you vote against recessing? Because he, you know, because that is a vote, I believe. And I don't think there was a unanimous vote last time, but I don't know how they play that game. Sometimes they'll do it when no one's around. Three people are in there. They'll call it a unanimous. But I wondered if he would, because I think it was John Turley that called on him or. Senator Scott. Was it Scott? Yeah. To oppose. Yeah, no, Ricky Scott. Senator Scott. Yeah. Would ask him if they would oppose the recess. Yeah. And I think there is a procedural motion there that you could do. Final segment of the Rodding Greg Show coming your way right here on Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. By the way, coming up on Thursday at the state capital, the organization tunnels to towers, right? T2T is bringing their...

Steel Across America Tour to the Capitol Building. It'd be parked outside the Capitol building on Thursday. Yes. What they have done is they've taken a steel beam from one of the towers 25 years ago, if you can believe that, this September. They've taken a steel beam. They've put on truck. They're going around the country to remind people of what happened. 25 years ago this September. We'll be talking with the representative from that organization tomorrow to help people make people aware of it and raise awareness and get people up to the event. I can't believe it's been 25 years, but it's hard to believe. But it is something that we should not forget that we should talk about. Again, our history, right? Let's talk about our history. Let's learn from this history. Anyway, so I just think it's something that is incredibly important. And it is, yeah. And it will be here on Thursday. I love that. You know, they used to, like Freedom Festival way back in the day, maybe a little after 9-11 happened. They had, one of the floats was like a tractor trailer that would bring the twisted metal. Really? As one of the floats. It was one of the floats to remind people. And it was from the Twin Towers that came by in the Freedom Festival in Provo on 4th of July. But this is scheduled to be on display Thursday up of the Utah State Capitol. And we'll have a representative from the organization. I think Frank Sillers. Not his brother. His brother was killed. His nephew? His nephew? I want Mark Wahlberg, because I think we get along with him famously. He's really cool. Kevin James would be fun. Yes. Who else? Oh, Dave Portner from Barster. He's a big sponsor. Have him come by. He'd be fun. Can we get one of those guys? I think we'd get along with them famously. They become our new friends. It'd be so much fun. Sure, sure. You know, I'm being patronized. You just don't even take it serious. Real quick, I know a lot of people buy this here in the state of Utah. You probably don't, but a lot of people do, including the Arquette family, Fair Life. Do you know what Fair Life is? The milk. Yeah, it's a protein milk. I drink that milk all the time. It's owned by Coca-Cola. Didn't know that. Neither did I until I saw this story. Apparently, they are halting production after unauthorized access. Holding production of what? Of the milk. Milk or the, because they got a protein drink, but I'm talking to milk. No, the milk. No. They're withholding it. For how long? It doesn't say. Man, that's all I bet. I drink that and they got chocolate milk, too. They have vanilla. You've tried the vanilla? No, not the protein drink. I'm talking straight up milk. No, no, the vanilla. I've not seen that. You've got to try the vanilla. We get, we get, Queenie gets the regular milk, and then she gets the Fair Life regular milk, and then the Fair Life regular milk, and then the Fair Life chocolate milk. And apparently it's pretty good for you. I think so, but you can't tell me they're going to stop making it. They're going to, temporarily, apparently there's an issue and they're going to stop it.

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