Vicki McKenna Show - Fauci Pleads the 5th

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I'm sorry, Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee. We'll join me on the program a bit later on. We'll dive right into that and the details of the Anthony Fauci Diary, which he does not want to confront. He's actually fronting off. Well, Senator Rand Paul, who's the chairman? Senator Rand Paul obviously has an obsession with me. No, you're a creep. You're a liar. You're a terrible scientist. You're a manipulator. You hurt people. You are the reason why many people died. And we just want an accounting of it all for history. Anyway, we'll get into that. Coming up on the program, more on the black hole that has become election integrity in our country. First, though, You need the word to win. It's rich. R-I-C-H-R-I-B-A.com and enter the keyword rich. You could win $1,000 in our nationwide inflation vacation cash contest, W-I-B-A, keyword rich. You may also play on the I-Hart Radio app. You have until 55 minutes past the hour to play. We'll call you. Won't leave a message, but we will call you if you win. We will not leave messages. We'll also get into the... nearly impossible task of extracting 40 years of DEI from education. Stacey Washington's going to join me on that. Oh, yes, and of course we will get into the Democrat debate. You didn't watch it. That's fine. Nobody watched it. Virtually nobody watched this. But Francesca Hong felt enough pressure that she thought she had to put a little daylight. between her party, the DSA, Democrat Socialists of America, and herself. So Francesca Hong, who grabbed a megaphone and accused a Madison police officer of execution, who has said over and over again, defund the police, defund the police, defund the police, who has said, abolished the Senate. who has said abolished prisons is now claiming she doesn't support those things. She said this publicly. She has said it in the form of advancing legislation in her time in the assembly. But last night on the debate stage, she wanted to put some daylight. She has actually accused the Republicans of wanting to defund the police. I kid you not. We'll get to all of that coming up on the program. But here is the update on the Kras. That's what they're calling it now, the Kras, not the Chaz. The Kras. Chaz meant Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. It was what they called the autonomous zone, the occupation in Seattle. They called it the Chaz. So we were just jokingly calling it the Chaz here in Madison. It kind of applies because it's right by the Capitol, even though it's not on a hill. Well, they've renamed it. It's called the Kras, the Corey Ruiz, Autonomous Zone. And it's in day seven.

We are on day seven, still going strong. One wonders, once the Francesca Hong, DSA, Milwaukee Communist Party brown shirts are no longer useful to Francesca Hong, will they be able to sustain their enthusiasm? Will the city of Madison continue to provide what amounts to mutual aid for them? The city of Madison is providing blockades in the form of vehicles, salt trucks, plow trucks. The city of Madison is providing porta potties and the service to service those porta potties. These are the taxpayers of the city of Madison. City of Madison is providing daily trash cleanup. For the CRAZ, the Corey Ruiz Autonomous Zone. Will they be able to sustain it? Will the city continue to fund the support structure once they are no longer useful to Francesca Hong? That remains to be seen. But more on the CRAZ when we come back, we're going to check in with Stacey Washington on the program. As I said, we're going to dive into the Anthony Fauci testimony today. And lots more coming up. This is the Vicki McKenna Show. And welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. So I've got Stacey Washington, host of Stacey on the Right, and I'm going to say dirty words. She's on Sirius XM. Okay. Sean Preble, do not kill me, but that's where you can find Stacey on the right, and lots of you love her show. She's got a terrific piece in the New York Post today about education and about DEI, broadly about DEI and education. And she joins me on the program. It's wonderful to have you. Stacey, thank you for joining me. I should also mention you with Project 21. which is a tremendous organization that I've worked with many times in the past. So thanks for jumping on the show. Thanks for having me, Vicki. All right. So in your piece in the New York Post, you were talking specifically about med school and the complaints that you hear broadly that we don't have enough diversity in med school. And... I mean, we can go into the granular detail about med school, but you said something so right in your piece. I'm just going to read it verbatim. where you say it's good to see the DOJ and the Trump administration cracking down on discriminatory practices in higher education. But without major intervention in K-12 schools, there will continue to be fewer American children prepared to score well on MCATs, LSATs, and other professional interests exams. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. So, you know, we can start anywhere you'd like, but I'd love it. I'd love us to at least get to that at some point.

Well, Vicki, the big deal is leftists and wokeys who are in education right now. They're majoring on the end results, but it takes work to get there. So you don't just wake up one day as a 22-year-old and say, hmm, I think I'm going to go to med school. This is something that students decide they would like to achieve usually in grammar school or middle school. And their parents make sure they're prepared for the rigor of high school way before that. The preparation for a medical school student starts really the first time a parent speaks to that child. If they can get that 50,000 words, speak 50,000 words to your child before they enter kindergarten. And that's a different standard. When my kids were small, the standard was... Speak 50,000 words to your child before they turn three years old. And it's not hard to do if the child spends time with human beings instead of spending time with an iPad or a cell phone stuck in their face. If they can even watch some television, they don't advise it until after three years old, but a little TV, a little Sesame Street. some quality childhood programming. But most of the time it's supposed to be a human being speaking to the child. Sometimes it's instruction. Sometimes it's just kudos and baby talk. But you get progressively more directional as the child reaches three years old. And then they begin to learn to recognize words and numbers so that they have all of their sight words and can recognize that were up with 250. by the time they enter kindergarten. And then they're reading on grade level at the age of eight and third grade. And then they're prepared for the rigor that starts in middle school. And that's the mathematics where by the time you're out of middle school, you're all done with algebra. Now you're working on higher level math and you're taking statistics before you leave high school. Remember when? So I'm just saying. And I know that people, so what I usually get from this is, oh, well, that's for kids who are special or that's for kids whose parents can afford tutoring. No, that's every kid. Every American kid used to have that standard. Now they're learning about sex and they're strapping their chest down so they can turn from a girl to a boy and they know all about the 57 genders. but they can't tell you anything about American history. They don't know civics. And most importantly, if you want to be a doctor, the higher level math and science has to happen in high school. So they're prepared for college level science and math. And I know this from experience because we have a daughter who's in medical school. And it was not my idea, Vicki's. I never once said to her, I'd like you to be a doctor. She wanted this. This was a decision she made when she was very young, and she's been working towards that. And even with all the preparation she's had, it is a tough slog because medical school is intentionally very, very difficult because only the brightest and fewest of Americans.

are ever meant to do that job because it's people's lives. You're actually deciding whether or not people live or die and how they live or die, how their illnesses are treated. So when I look at this and I see that 70% of American fourth graders don't read on grade level, then that narrows the pool of them who will ever have their educational rigor to prepare the duty doctors down to almost nothing. So I don't want to hear that we need more black doctors. I want to hear how they're going to get. 70% of America's children to be reading on grade level at the fourth grade. How are they going to fix that statistic? Don't talk to me about doctors and lawyers. Talk to me about how we get America's children doing algebra and finished with algebra two in the eighth grade. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. 70% of kids generally. Here in Wisconsin, they manipulate our scores, but it's about 65% of kids generally can read proficiently at grade level. And remember, and you know this, they've dropped down what the definition of proficiency means. So proficiency now isn't what proficiency was when you were in school or when I was in school. You take a look at black kids in Wisconsin schools, particularly Madison schools. Less than 9%. In Milwaukee schools, less than 5%. And yet, you're talking about California medical schools here in the University of Wisconsin. Hardship, that's going to be what's going to get you into school, even though you're coming from an environment where 90 plus percent of kids aren't reading or doing math at grade level. And everybody takes the victory dance and says, diversity. But none of it is diversity. It's just... It's lowering the quality of professional standards for the rest of us. And I guess that's okay with leftists, but it's not okay with me. be okay with anyone because whether you're a leftist or not really doesn't matter to your doctor when they can't diagnose what's wrong with you or they don't have an interest in getting you a groundbreaking treatment or the kind of workaround that good doctors can figure out where they'll take a medication and use it off label to work for your particular case. These are things that happen when a doctor has a good grip on not just medicine but the practice of medicine which is problem solving. medical practice is problem solving, but at a much higher level than someone who's just, you know, kind of at the checkout register and they have something that is priced incorrectly or they need to put something on sale because it's damaged. The medical school students is learning problem solving techniques as well as every medication, every part of the human body, cellular functions. They're operating on such a ridiculously high level. mind-boggling and this is what they're called to do because just like people say being a teacher is a calling and I believe that's true being a doctor is a calling all of these different higher order work

processes that happen, like engineering. Being an engineer, you know, you can be trained into it, but you still have to have an engineering mind, which is something that you have that seed kernel, and then you develop that through the educational processes. And engineering school does that for you. But you have to be able to do the math in order to get into engineering school. And that's the door. That's the unlock code. It's not hardship. It's not whether or not someone called you the N-word when you were in eighth grade. It's not whether or not you were bullied. Those are life experiences. We hope that you don't have this in too many negative life experiences, but as long as human beings are around each other, there's going to be negativity and hardship. The key is what amount of time that your child spends. every night after school during their formative years before the 12th grade doing homework. What I found is if you're at a good high school, you're looking at three to five hours of homework, five nights a week on the normal time on heavy sessions where they're doing projects and they have papers and research due. There might be seven hours of homework in a night or it might be broken up where they're doing some of it over the weekend. Then there's extracurricular activities if your child is able to manage that and get that homework load in. So this is the child's full-time job, and they're supposed to spend 30 to 40 hours a week at it. And if your child isn't doing that, they are not on grade level. They are not proficient or advanced. In order to get in medical school, you need to be advanced. Not proficient, advanced. So I'm just tired of everybody glossing over that and talking about sex. That's all the left ones to talk about in school. And these kids need to talk about math and reading, and they need to learn about philosophy and rhetoric, and they need to learn about literature, and they need to read history, and they need to be stimulated mentally, and we need to leave their bodies alone, we need to leave their sexual functions alone, and teach them instead about anatomy, physiology, and biology. These are the things that kids need to know. This is the exact opposite of what is actually taking place in K-12. The exact opposite. It's all sex. It's all politics. It's all sociology or it's critical theory. It's zero reading. It's zero reading. It's zero math. And that's Wisconsin schools. I can't speak for your state schools. But in Wisconsin, practically zero. Yes. Everywhere. And when I say 70% of those fourth graders who can't read, I wish that statistic was just one state. If it were just one state, it would be easier to solve. But the solution starts at home where parents to say, you know, read this to me. And if your child can pick anything up in your kitchen, any piece of mail, and read it to you, then they're probably reading on grade level. If they stumble a little, it's not a time to start, you know, ripping the kid a new one or wondering what you did wrong in life. You just say, oh, wow, it looks like we need to work on reading a little bit. Let's read together for 20 minutes every night. And you might say, well, what good could you do in 20 minutes every night? 20 minutes of reading a day with your child is all that's required for them to stay on grade level if you start when they're small because they don't fall behind. So the key is not to fall behind, but if your child does fall behind, then it's just you add a little extra. So you don't have to remake your entire life. You don't have to quit your job, but you have to say, okay, we're doing 20 minutes a night. And then if it's math, you get them a tutor.

See, that's the other thing that people don't realize. Your excellent students, your medical school student, your engineering students, they've all had tutors. And they all, the first thing they do is I can't really get this concept or I'm not sure. I had a bad sport or test. The first thing they do is go get a tutor to explain what they're doing wrong and to help them. basically catch up and overcome the deficit. Tutoring is not a bad word. Tutoring is the unlock code to everything you want to do in education that's more difficult. So parents have to look at tutors as a tutor is your best friend. A tutor is someone who will explain something to your child until your child becomes the expert at that and they can explain it to other people, which means they could tutor other people. A tutor is just someone who's mastered something. So we have to get back to that. When you say, Bickey... that they're engaging in, you know, all of this activity at school that has nothing to do with education. And they only have four and a half instructional hours a day. In public school, the minimum standard of Missouri, they have to have a minimum of four and a half hours of instructional time of day. So how much do they have? Four and a half hours. If the minimum standard was six and a half hours, that's what they would have because they always meet the minimum standards. So you have to say to yourself, well, if my child isn't getting enough out of that four and a half hours a day, maybe they need a private school. Maybe they need... to be homeschooled. Maybe they need to, if they're in high school, they can go to college instead. They can dual enroll in high school and college, and your community college might be a better learning environment for them because at community college, they're extremely focused on getting through the curriculum. And then you have your child take, you know, maybe calculus one in the community college environment where they are just going to have a teacher who is obsessed with teaching them calculus one. That's the difference. So parents really have to be obsessed with their child and their education. And so for people who are, oh, that's a tiger mom, no, that's a good mom. A mom who is obsessed with their child's education and making sure that they're learning, obsessed with knowing them, having a relationship with them, knowing their personality in and out. If it's not the mom, it's the dad. Whichever parent has the time and energy to do that, that's where you're going to get over the hump and actually get into success. So here is what we've got. And this is the reality. Most parents are mailing their kids off to public school. They're comfortable. They're satisfied. With the job the public school is doing, the public school shines them on, says, you know, we're meeting expectations or exceeding expectations. We have a report card here in Wisconsin. It's a joke. And everybody feels fine because nobody wants to understand the mistakes, the mistake they made by trusting the public school. So you're exactly right. And it was not even that hard. It's not even that hard. You mentioned tutor. You don't have to pay for a tutor. You can go to Khan Academy.

online there are all kinds of options you can just like download in an app on your phone um but it's it's here in our state and you're from missouri you're in missouri okay i mean god bless missouri i was just there last weekend it's marvelous state um in our state we have the hardest time getting people to just accept that their kids are also getting sucked into that 30 or that 70% failure. They think my kid's fine. My kid's totally fine. I don't know. Ask your kid the last time you read a book. You have Harvard students who have never read a book going into Harvard. So if Harvard students who have never read a book are getting admitted into school. That says the entire system is doing this. And the best and the brightest kids who go to Harvard, they've never read a book. And yet it's, I mean, it is really as simple as you make it sound. So my hope is that, you know, the reason why people write op-eds to get us thinking about solutions. And as much as I only, I loat the teachers' unions, I like teachers, but I don't like their teachers' unions. I don't like AFT or NEA because those are organizations that actually take teachers away from their first love with teaching kids and having relationships with them and instead make teachers focus on pay and benefits to the exclusion of everything else. And Vicki, I know that we need good teachers. And I don't necessarily believe that it's the end of public schooling, but it will be if parents continue to do what you just described, which is mailing your kid off to the school. Parents, I think... To their detriment, we'll say the most important thing is getting into that school district or this neighborhood for that school district. And then they send their kids off and they think that's enough. And it is enough for a child who is driven. We have three kids, and a couple of them would have educated themselves all on their own. If they were left on an island with an encyclopedia Britannica from 1978, they would have a high school diploma and a bachelor's degree at the end of 10 years because they would have educated themselves. But then I have a child who really needed much more intensity from us as parents to help. And that child is successful and has a bachelor's degree, but it was a different process. Every child is different. And most children are not going to teach themselves. They need a teacher. They need someone who's interested. And in most cases, that's going to be mom and dad because teachers don't care about your kids as much as you do. Teachers are not there for your kids. And I agree. Teachers are called oftentimes. And then they just get beaten up. But you are there for your kids. And if K-12 schools can't be fixed. education can. I think that's your broader point. I do want people to check out the New York Post. Unfortunately, I'm out of time. New YorkPost.com. I can link this up as well. Thank you so much. Thank you, Stacey, for being on the program. And again, Stacey Washington, who can also be found, I will say it without derision, on the Patriot channel on Sirius Radio, or Sirius XM Radio. Stacey on the right is the show. She's also with Project 21, and we will take a quick break.

Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna show. Don't forget you've got a chance to win in our inflation, vacation, cash contest. But let's talk about elections. I just saw an analysis that was done here in Wisconsin that an enormous number, particularly of conservatives, do not have trust in the integrity of elections. And that simple things like going back to not having... early voting, not having so many absentee ballots out there, you know, strong protections on citizenship verification, et cetera. It would help. And there's a reason why election integrity. doesn't, our worries about election integrity do not bother the Democrats because it suppresses our vote. I have Alex Newman standing by to talk about just the broad issue of election integrity. He is the author of a book called The Deep State, The Invisible Government Behind the scenes. He's also founder of Liberty Sentinel. He joins me on the program to talk specifically about this issue. Here's just the latest, Alex. Welcome, by the way. New York City, the Zohran Mamdani election. An analysis of 1 million of the 2.2 million votes that were cast in New York found that a minimum... of 280,000 were illegal, okay? It's not really in dispute. They were illegal, people who didn't live in New York, completely made up social security numbers and identities. So well beyond the margin of victory for Zohran Mamdani in New York, there were illegal votes. Nobody knows if Zohran Mamdani won or not, but there were illegal votes in New York. We know this for sure. And it's this kind of thing that makes people say, why do I even bother to vote? Well, thank you for having me on the program. And Vicki, it's great to be with you again. And I think this is a critical issue that's facing the country. Surprise. If you look at the coalition that rallied around Zohran Mamdani, you have Islamists, you have jihadists, you have communists, you have socialists. These are people who... everywhere where they have taken power. They have used tools like mass murder, tools like fraud, tools like violent revolution, tools like subversion, in many cases mass executions. If you look at how Islamist forces took over North Africa and Asia Minor all the way out to India and even into Southeast Asia. So why would we be surprised? if these same forces in the United States were willing to commit a little bit of voter fraud to take power. It would be very foolish for us to be so naive to assume that they wouldn't do that. And the reality is our electoral system in this country makes voter fraud very, very easy. There are almost no consequences ever.

And the potential reward taking control of a city government, like New York City, taking control of a state government or even taking control of the federal government and the trillions of dollars that go through these governments and the military forces that these governments have access to, we would be very foolish not to understand that this is happening on a massive scale and that it's an existential threat to our freedom. It is, and here's the thing. The Democrats don't want anything to do with improving voter integrity. Real simple things could take place. So in Wisconsin, we could just not do ballot drop boxes. That would be a really simple thing. We could mandate that you needed a reason to absentee vote. We could do real simple things. We could mandate proof of citizenship, for instance. We don't have to wait around for the Save Act. We can do all of this. Democrats won't do it. The Republicans tried in the legislature, the Democratic governor. vetoed every attempt that they made. So in New York, the Board of Elections, the New York State Board of Elections is not going to look at this. The New York State Voter Board of Elections is like, oh, well, you know, that's just crazy election denialism. In Wisconsin, in the 2020 election, we know 50,000 votes were unlawful. It doesn't mean that the ballot boxes were stuffed. It meant that they were against Wisconsin election law. What has happened to that? Nothing. The person who brings it up is now being prosecuted for felonies related to the Trump recount case. I could go on. New Jersey, 6600 non-citizens were registered to vote. A minimum of 400 actually did. Nobody's being prosecuted. We just had Trump talk about China and the infiltration of our voter registration system that is a whaler and their ability to manipulate electronic voting machines. And I mean, Alex, you know, if we don't. do something that makes the large majority of people trust our elections, then eventually people just stop bothering with them. Yes, that's exactly right, Vicki. And to build on what you're saying, the consequences that have been handed out in these issues typically have gone to the people who have been trying to restore honest elections. I just had the wonderful Tina Peters on my program just last week. She had just finished meeting with Donald Trump. She spent 606 days in a state prison in Colorado with murderers and women who killed their own children because she tried to preserve evidence of election fraud as the elected county clerk of Mesa County, Colorado. So this is what happens when honest people try to combat the voter fraud is they get the book thrown at them. They are targeted. They are persecuted. We have here this existential threat. And, of course, the Democrats don't want to deal with us. In many cases, these Democrats were elected with help from these shenanigans. And they understand that if we were to have honest elections, and some of them have even said as much publicly, right, as Elissa Slotkin just recently indicated that they needed to run elections this way if they wanted to win. And I encourage people to just talk to regular Americans, talk to your neighbors, talk to the waitress at the restaurant, talk to your Uber driver. What you'll find is.

There is a very widespread understanding that these elections aren't trustworthy, that the powers in so many places are not legitimate. People understand this, and you're right, they're losing confidence in the electoral system. And if somebody who's spent almost my entire life overseas and has seen what happens when people lose confidence in the electoral system, I want to urge people to pay very close attention here because when people lose hope that they can vote their way out of this, when people lose hope. that they can bring about change through peaceful democratic means. Terrible, terrible things happen, and we do not want that in this country. And we're not talking about the, you know, the basic knock and drag operations on GOTV. That's not what we're talking about here. That's always going to happen. Were you going to go up and you're going to knock on someone's door and you're going to maybe offer them a couple of smokes or something if they just get in the van and go to the polling location or fill out that absentee ballot? We're not even talking about that. We are talking about stuff like what happened in Michigan, in Muskegon, Michigan, which is like the heartland. In Muskegon, Michigan, there was a ballot mill operation. This was identified before the election. This was a 2020 ballot mill operation. Again, not in dispute. None of this stuff is in dispute. But when Trump sends the FBI into seize the records from Fulton County in Georgia, he's attacked by the left-wing press as somehow being an election denialist. You know, it's absolutely bananas. If we actually had honest elections and nobody was cheating broadly at the at scale. then, you know, then somebody loses an election and you say, that sucks. They ran a crummy campaign, right? Then you just say, gosh, we should have had a better candidate. We should have had better messaging. But, I mean, I'll give you another example. In 2024, the U.S. Senate race here in Wisconsin, Eric Hovdi versus Tammy Baldwin. Eric Hovdi is leading by 47,000 votes at 1.15 in the morning. And then all of a sudden, before I woke up at 6 a.m. 5 a.m. the next day, he had been overwhelmed by a 93% vote ballot dump in the wee hours of the morning. Now, nobody has reconciled the impossibility of that with the outcome. But he lost, right? So he lost. We all know that wasn't fair. There's not a damn thing we can do about it. Well, that's what they want us to think, that there's nothing we can do about it. And I think we have to do something about it. This isn't optional. You know, to go back to Tina Peters for a moment. One of the things he told me that was so astounding was that the cheating is going on, not just in presidential elections, not just in congressional elections, but even into local races. So we have to do something about this. And depending on what state you live in, there are different legal needs. But I think if we were to start...

arresting some of these people. And I think Donald Trump is very serious about this. He's taking very seriously this issue of election products. Some of these people were to start being arrested. And prosecuted, just think you prosecute gangsters or cartels, right? You let the lower level minions have immunity. You give them amnesty in exchange for their testimony. Who paid you to do this? Okay? Then we find out who paid. We arrest this person. Hey. You want to go to jail for 15 years? Or do you want to tell us who paid you? Who directed you? We have got to get to the bottom of this. We cannot just throw our hands up and say, well, they're just going to steal elections and we're going to live under this journey. That, by definition, means the end of self-government. And the end of self-government means we are in the hands of whoever is the best at cheating. And typically the people who are the best at cheating are the most ruthless, maniacal, psychopathic people in a society. And we do not want to be ruled by them, trust me. No, and we don't want our own maniacal psychopaths either. Okay, we don't want maniacal psychopaths, period. I'll give you another quick example because, again, the list of issues. In Madison, Wisconsin, not that this will surprise you, but in Madison, Wisconsin, what you could do was call the clerk or go into the clerk's office with zero proof of residency, no Wisconsin driver's license, no copy of a lease, no utility bill, nothing. And the clerk would send you. a letter in the mail, and then you could then use the postmark on that to show proof of residency in Wisconsin. You didn't, all you had to do is say send it here. Didn't matter where you sent it. As long as you got that canceled envelope, you could go register to vote in Wisconsin. I mean, could it be more obvious. All right. And they're doing this on purpose. They're doing this on purpose. The feds need, and I just spoke with someone, the feds need a division. that begins investigating and prosecuting people like this. Prosecute this. This is clearly a violation of Wisconsin election law. Prosecuted. Can I wait around for the left wing attorney general to do it in Wisconsin? We need some people racked up. Because then that's like it's like a speeding ticket. You know, it's like a speed trap. People slow down. You might not end the cheating, but you certainly will slow it down. And then you work on some hard reforms like citizenship verification, reigning in absentee ballot abuses, etc. Yeah, 100%, Vicki. We've got to have people prosecuted for this. These are very, very serious crime. And if we could just have some jurisdictions start cleaning this up, it would become very obvious to people what was happening around the country. If you were to go back down, we had honest elections in this country for centuries. We know how to run honest elections. Everybody votes on paper. You vote on election land unless you have some very, very good reason why you can't. And they're counted right there in front of anybody who wants to watch. Very, very simple to do this. Our ancestors did it for... centuries without a hiccup in most cases. But if we were to start prosecuting some of these people and start getting honest elections, at least in some areas, it would start becoming very clear to people what was going on. But why is it when they use the machines in California, you've got 75% Democrats? But then when you use no machines in a similar county in another area of California, we've got a massive win for Republicans. This doesn't make sense.

So we've got to have prosecutions. That is true. Our Constitution does reserve most powers over elections to state governments. But we have a lot of federal laws on the books that are constitutional that could be enforced, including allowing federal prosecutions of people who are involved in rigging federal elections. And this is happening in California. It's happening in Illinois. It's happening in Wisconsin. It's even happening in Republican states. So yes, prosecutions are essential. And I say throw the book at them. And if we need to, let's increase the penalties. It was happening in Texas for crying out loud. 24 in Texas. That is, could you get redder than Texas? And it was happening in Texas. Alex, thank you so much. Where can people find you? Where can they find your show? Where can they find your book? Any other, any other info. I know you're on X. You're on wherever. Where are you? Liberty Sentinel, S-T-I-N-T-I-N-E-L.org. People can find us also at the New American.com, and I'm a fellow at classical conversations. Thank you for having me again. I really appreciate it. It's great to be with you. My pleasure. Liberty Sentinel.org. I just want to make sure I want to get people there. And, of course, The New American as well. Also, the book is called Deep State, The Invisible Government Behind the Scenes. And the author is Alex Newman with a W. We will be right back. Thank you, Alex. Thank you. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. I just decided to do this just for fun because we have the Francesca Hong, Corey Ruiz Autonomous Zone, currently occupying Willie Street and Baldwin. I'm going to share with you some details about the new hero of Madison, Wisconsin, one Corey Ruiz. But we'll put a pause on that until you get the new word to win money for the 10 o'clock hour, and that's new N-EW. You go to WIBA.com or the IHeart Radio app to play our nationwide inflation vacation contest. You could win $1,000. As I always say, you have till 55 minutes past the hour to play. We will call you if you win, and we will not leave messages. Do not screen your calls. Turn off those calls screening features on your phone. I can't play, so my call screening features are on. But you can. You are going to play, I hope. And then you're going to make sure, at least if you want to win, those call screening features are turned off in your settings. Okay. So I wanted to talk about the new hero of Madison. Corey Ruiz, an extraordinary person. That's how he's described, an extraordinary person. This is the person, of course, who at age 38, after a 20-year career as a felon, resisting police, attacking police, attacking judges, stealing cars, doing dope, robbing people 20 years, ever since he was 18, an extraordinary person. He is the new hero of Madison to the point where the city of Madison has seen fit. to deploy taxpayer resources to support the memorial. And they are also going to be setting aside at the very least meetings and money for a permanent memorial for Madison's hero, Corey Ruiz. Let's talk a bit about this young man who was so extraordinary. He was a La Follett High School student. I don't know if he graduated.

He was a White Horse Middle School student. Big contributor to the community, this one. I looked up the proficiency for mathematics and reading at LaFalette High School and White Horse Middle School. These are two of the worst performing schools in the country. DPI has seen fit to change the cut scores to make an apples to apples comparison very, very difficult. But I did manage to get Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty to provide me with some of the old data on this. The fall at high school, generally speaking, until they changed the cut scores, had a reading proficiency of, ready for this, 26%. That's overall. Whitehorse middle school had a reading proficiency of 26%. This is over time from 2010 to 2019. 26%. What was the proficiency for reading for black students at LaFollett and Whitehorse? Very, very similar. Are you ready? Nine. Nine percent. of black students at LaFalette and Whitehorse could read at grade level, 9%. 9%. So I don't think it is a stretch given Mr. Ruiz's contributions to the community, which would include attacking a judge, attacking multiple police officers, stealing cars, Dealing drugs, committing acts of burglary and robbery, battery, and assault to believe he was probably not in the 9%. Just going to go out on a limb and say he was probably not in the 9% that were proficient at reading or math at LaFoliter Whitehorse. Just going to go out on the limb. So what is my point here? My point is if Madison truly, truly wants to improve the likelihood that young black men are going to survive. police encounters, and what Madison should do is make efforts to make sure young black men are literate so that they do not believe somehow ignorantly that crime will pay. Now, how do we do this? How do we do this? Well, number one, you teach young people to read and do math at grade level, and we're not doing that. Not at all. Madison has a behavioral modification plan that says if a young person of color acts out in the classroom, then discipline, hard discipline, removing the student from the classroom, putting the student in detention, suspending the student, expelling the student is racist. You eliminate that program.

the behavioral modification giant abacus of DEI. You begin by implementing, which has state taxpayer resources attached to it, the program passed by the Republicans in the legislature recently, to teach phonics for reading. You begin doing that, and you particularly target. that reading effort to black students in the Madison schools, particularly at Whitehorse and LaFollett. You target these programs, and then you recognize we still may have some issues. And so what you're going to then do is you're going to tell judges by electing judges that will do this. to actually penalize people for hurting other people. Mr. Ruiz, in his 20 long years as a violent criminal, spent less than three of those years incarcerated. So that's another thing you do. If you truly want to make fewer Corey Ruiz's in Madison, You don't defund the police. You don't occupy Williamson Street and Baldwin in the intersection. You don't send mutual aid in the form of taxpayer resources like barricades, porta-potties, and trash collection. You say, how can we make sure we don't abandon another young man to illiteracy and hopelessness? And then feel bad about it and continue to turn him over into the community to continue to wreak violence over and over. You say we're not going to do that if you cared, if you truly cared about black and brown people, that's what you would do. I just wanted to bring that up because he was a student at La Follett in Whitehorse. He was illiterate. He was illiterate. He probably got passed through grade after grade after grade because a bunch of white people thought that was the nice thing to do. Well, doing the nice thing, you virtue signaling leftists, meant that by the time he turned 18, he couldn't read. And by the time he turned 18, he couldn't even probably add a column of two-digit numbers on a piece of paper with a pen or a calculator. Now you want to make sure we honor Corey Ruiz. You want to honor Corey Ruiz? Then dedicate a plan called the Cory Ruiz Phonics Education program. The Corey Ruiz classroom discipline program. The Cory Ruiz Judicial Criminal Justice Program. That's what you do if you actually cared about this guy. You don't actually care about this guy. You want more of him. You're doing more to create, you're doing less and less in the way of education to create more and more Corey Ruiz's. There will be another one, probably in the next couple of weeks.

If you actually cared, you'd do what I would suggest. You would call the new phonics education program in the Madison Schools, particularly at LaFollett and Whitehorse, the Corey Ruiz Reading Education Program. That's what you do. If you cared. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the program. Don't forget your chance to win. In the 10 o'clock hour, the word is new in EW. That's our cash contest word. You know how to play. All right, we are coming up on the 25th anniversary of 9-11. 25th anniversary of 9-11. Let's maybe reflect on where we are from where we were. Daniel Greenfield joins me on the program, front page mag.com, front page magazine. We have elected in America a mayor of the city of New York. who is an apologist for Islamism. He's an apologist for radical Islam. 25 years later, I mean, it didn't take very long for us to kind, I don't know, maybe we're not, Daniel, maybe we're not just full circle 180 degrees from where we were on 9-11 when Islam attacked the United States. But it sure seems like we are. So let's start with New York. And maybe we can also jump over to the state of Wisconsin, if you don't mind, where Ilhan Omar, some people did something on 9-11, will be hosting a fundraiser and a rally for the Democrats' chief gubernatorial candidate. So good to have you. Thank you. Yes. Unfortunately, we have, you know, we've gone 180 degrees. And in part because we've had mass migration to this country by people who hate this country. The signature issue of President Trump has been immigration. It's been specifically mass migration. And we can see in New York the kind of changes that creates because this was not the electorate that was there in New York on 9-11. If you look at the polls, the majority of New Yorkers who were there long time did not vote for Zohran Mamdani. These are the people who have since come in. They've taken over entire neighborhoods. The Zohran Mamdani administration recently released a map of so-called ethnic neighborhoods with places like Little Bangladesh and Little Palestine and left out Little Italy. Good point. And he claimed it was just a mistake. Not just a mistake, but little, little Mogadishu, basically. So mass migration. And not mass migration, you know, nonstop for 25 years, mass migration and say earnestly the last seven years, it seems like, where it changed radically quickly in New York and radically quickly in Michigan, in Minnesota, and in other targeted areas like Ohio, radically and quickly from the mass importation of, of,

of third world welfare users, basically. That's exactly right. And people who are even worse than that, who have wealth and use it to defraud and take advantage of us. I have to say that what happened after September 11th was completely backward from what anyone would normally expect. At that point, you would expect Muslim immigration to have dropped sharply. Because on the one hand, you have these people, including Zohran Mamdani and Ilhan Omar, who claim that Muslims suffered so much after September 11th. They've encountered discrimination. Zohran Mamdani claimed that Anne could ride a subway. His chief counsel was also a Gitmo terror lawyer, says that the story of 911 should be told in terms of the suffering of Muslims. Yet actually Muslim and migration to the country really massively took off after September 11th, and especially with the Iraq where he had all these people suddenly coming to the United States. It obviously accelerated quite a bit in the last five, seven years. But even before that, you know, every time there's been a societal breakdown in a Muslim country, it's falling to terrorists, including, by the way, Somalia, these people suddenly start coming here and they start supporting terrorists in the United States. So, Daniel, what the hell? I mean, you're right. But how did that become policy after 9-11? And I will just, I want to roll back people's, you know, minds. Things were going crazy. Maybe within six months, the Bush administration started pulling its punches and using care, Council and American Islamic Relations as advisors for the rhetoric on how we were going to even speak about the attacks on 9-11 and who did them and why they did them. How the hell did we use 9-11 as a reason to import the same ideology into the United States that brought down the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001? You said it exactly right. We did not actually talk about Islam and said we started talking about dictatorships and tyranny. We said, you know, if we give these people democracy, it would be fine. And then these people, of course, took our opportunities at democracy and supported terrorists. And they came to this country. And in the spirit of democracy, they went ahead and they started supporting socialists. The DSA, if you look at their ruling committee, a whole bunch of it is Muslim. So they came here. They started supporting dictatorships not only in their countries, but here because the issue was never democracy. It was Islam. And by the way, care, yes, which the Bush administration decided to listen to, is holding its big care con in D.C. on September 12th and 13th. Wow. Right after 9-1. Right after 9-11. The people of New York who were there on 9-11 are asking that Zohran Mamdani not go. I don't think he's going to respect that because he thinks that the whole point, the whole story of 9-11 is how badly Muslims were treated in the United States after 9-11. I mean, you could not say the word Muslim. You had to say Islamist. And that was perilous, Daniel. It was perilous to say Islamist because we were trying to make sure we were speaking very carefully about the political character of Islam. It's the character of the religion, period. But we were trying to be really, really specific.

And you were not allowed to look sideways at someone or mistake somebody for being Middle Eastern without putting yourself at risk of getting fired or shamed into oblivion. First cancel culture was after 9-11, not long after 9-11, where people just spoke inarticulately. So here we are with the DSA rising in America. The DSA free Palestine, pro Hamas. We've got them coming to Wisconsin to support a candidate for governor. Elon Musk Omar is going to be doing a rally for Francesca Hong in Wisconsin. And we're supposed to just sit there and say, oh, yeah, it's about dictatorship. No, the DSA is Islamism melded with socialism. And that's what they want for the rest of us. That's exactly what they want. That is really the definition of the Muslim Brotherhood. And it's the Red Green Alliance, the alliance between the far left and Islam, which is operated in a big way in the Middle East. And now, as we're becoming a third-road country, it's taking over here. So in Iran, this is maybe a good way to look at it too. In Iran, you couldn't figure out, you know, how did it all go so sideways so fast? And if you look back at the history, it was that red-green alliance. It was. It was young, wide-eyed, idealistic, maybe, you know, non-religious leftists joining together with people who were radically committed to the Quran. who, you know, kind of in a Maoist sort of way, managed to pull off the overthrow of a government. And that one-two punch worked. Why not export it? That's exactly what happened Iran. It's what happened more recently with the Arab Spring in places like Egypt and Algeria. And now, yes, it is absolutely happening in this country. It's happening in Europe, by the way. You've got a new political party in the UK called your party, which consists of Islamist pushing leftist agenda items. We've seen this in places like Michigan, where you're going to have the first Muslim Senate candidate who, of course, is marrying socialism and the left. We've got... The Blind Cheeks former translator is going to be a member of Congress out of New Jersey. Hisham Hamawi. This is happening across America, not just New York City. So what do you do? How do you stop it? I mean, no one's got, and nobody's even seeing it holistically. So this is, that's the other problem is that you've got to, you've got to take the plane up to 50,000 feet to see this holistically. And you're not hearing it rhetorically. And you're seeing a divide. In fact, the rhetoric, the, I guess the social media rhetoric on the right, we're all fighting each other because you've got this little contingent of people who are making apologies for DSA on the right.

and Islam on the right, Tucker Carlson being a major, major driver of that. And so we're not having this, we're not, the opposition doesn't understand this that it's happening at scale. There's two things going on here. First, as you said earlier, we are not telling the truth about Islam. And the more we do not do this, the more we're unable to grapple with what's going on. Second, as divide and conquer, Islam is we expand it through dividing conquer from the very beginning. They're quite good at buying us up. And, you know, we've seen this before, whether it's the Bush administration, whether it's Tucker Carlson. So many of our elites are up for sale. They're willing to take the money. They're willing to say anything in exchange for that money. It's sad. It's corrupt. It's treasonous. And, you know, unless we get past this and actually tell the truth about what's going on, we are going to end up just like Europe. Yeah. So Texas seems to maybe be a small place where they're trying to lead the way. As Ken Paxton, as he runs for Senate, but still as Attorney General, is looking to stop any kind of establishment of Sharia law. Although they've got dollar signs in their eyes. And so there's massive development. You see this happening in Michigan. You see this happening in Minnesota. It's happening in Milwaukee as well, where you've got development. It's explicitly Islamist development going on. And so, you know, even with an attorney general willing to be hardcore, can you stop it? Can you stop it, you know, self-policing using Sharia? I don't know if you can. They couldn't stop it in Michigan. They seem to not be able to stop at Minnesota. They can if they choose to. We need to do three things. The first thing is we need to cut off migration from these countries, stop loss. The Trump administration has been somewhat trying to do that. It's why immigration really is the first step. Second thing you need to do is to actually start holding this entire infrastructure accountable. We had this during the Cold War where we had people coming into this country who wanted to destroy it. We had laws passed with the Communist Control Act. to prevent some of this from happening. If people actually are calling for the destruction of America, for the placement of the Constitution, they should not be able to run for Congress for that matter. They should not be able to get citizenship in this country. It's a child's play at this point. You look at the social media profile, people who are gaining citizenship, who are applying for visas and say, no, thank you. We had 911 in the, we had in the 9-11 in the first place because The visa person in the embassy in Saudi Arabia took a look at a bunch of bad applications and just waive them in. And we are fighting an uphill battle to just have basic regulation since then. And the third of the most basic thing is we need to be clear about what we are fighting until we're actually queer about that. The American people themselves don't know what's going on and they can't stand up. I think you're exactly right. And I think the Trump administration really can lead the way here, not wait around for Florida or Texas, because it could go sideways in Florida and Texas, not waiting for either one of those states to be subsumed by states like California, which is doing exactly that. It's dumping its hard earners, income earners, outside those states, but it's filling its state up with people who want to destroy.

the natural resources and the key strategic national security importance of California. You've got Michigan, you've got Minnesota, you've got Ohio, Alabama and Arkansas. My goodness, you have got the establishment of Islamic enclaves in Alabama and Arkansas. I was driving through Southern Missouri. Southern Missouri. Could it get any redder than Southern Missouri? Billboards were advertising halal. For restaurants, we have halal. at our restaurants. Don't worry. There's Islamic writing, Arabic writing on billboards going into Southern Missouri, Daniel. And so unless you kind of see what's the creep of it all, but the Bush administration needs to start sending people home. Oh, you're a citizen, but you lied. You're going home. Remember, this was part of a program. They've used refugee resettlement specifically to target red areas. This was a comprehensive program that especially really took off under Obama was still going on even under Bush. And the goal of that is to specifically turn places, yes, like Missouri, into the blue column by filling them with foreign refugees, especially Muslims. Biden alone dumped over 100,000 Afghans illegally brought to this country. You have Senate Republicans who keep trying to legalize them. Yes. Absolutely. Send them home. Ohio is fighting the Republican, Ohio is fighting the Trump administration from getting rid of TPS status for Haitians and other people who have just come and taken advantage of it. Republicans are fighting Trump on this stuff. Daniel Greenfield, I want people to go to frontpagemag.com, frontpagemag.com. It's front pagemag magazine, but the website's frontpagemag.com. Please sign up for the, for the email alerts from front page mag. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you. And we will take a quick break on the Vicki McKenna show. And welcome back to the program. Before I get to introducing Mark Morano, who's standing by, I'm just going to play. We'll see how long we want to play this. Brandon, I may just call for you to cut it off because I think people are going to get the gist. And Mark, I want you to hear this as well. So make sure, please, Brandon, that Mark can hear this as well. Anthony Fauci is currently on Capitol Hill. And he is currently pleading the Fifth Amendment to every single question. He does not have Fifth Amendment protections to assert. But I do want to share just maybe a minute or so of Senator Josh Hawley questioning Anthony Fauci. Here it is. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? Let's try something. What day the week is it today? On the divisive counsel. I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What color tie you're wearing? On the divisive counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What colors the carpet in front of you?

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Let's just get one thing straight. You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because you've been pardoned, as you very well know, as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more. Brown v. Walker, 1896, when he has been pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege. You know that. Your lawyer is sitting behind you now shifting nervously in their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is about contempt. Contempt for this body and contempt for the American people. But I think I know why you're doing it. It's because you don't want to answer questions. It's because you did all kinds of terrible things. It's because during the pandemic, you got rich, didn't you? You got rich while people were dying, hundreds of thousands of Americans over a million in the end, and you were getting rich, and not only were you doing that, you were using federal employees with taxpayer money to apply for and solicit cash prizes for you personally. cash prizes totaling over a million dollars you did all of that during the pandemic didn't you that's a question there you go mark morano jump on in here it was like that all day long it's been like that i don't know if the hearing is finally um wrapped up that's contempt he does not have those rights his lawyer knows it i don't know why holly didn't just pull his lawyer up there and start grilling his lawyer but this is what we can expect from a man whose diary shows he knew every single thing he said to the public was a lie Yes, anyone out there, Vicki, playing a drinking game today where you have to take a shot whenever he takes his Fifth Amendment, right, you'd be plastered by now. You'd be at alcohol poisoning level at this point. This is just amazing. First of all, let's give kudos for, I guess, Senator Rand Paul for just the existence of the publishing of this diary. It is absolutely amazing that this came to public life. And the things he reveals in this, particularly about the fatality case rate, how he actually put the number of 0.2 in his diary, and then within days he testifies in Congress and claims a rate, I think, eight times higher of death rate just to alarm the public. This is Anthony Fauci who is not asserting any legal Fifth Amendment rights. What he should be saying is, I mean, if you were accurate, he would say, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights to not do reputational, further reputational harm to my career, because that's really what the Fifth Amendment is today. He does not want to deal with this. He does not want to talk about this. He wants this to go away. And I don't know if that's going to work. I'm finding amazing things.

on different liberal, progressive, even podcast. People, I'm watching this morning, Vicki, and they're like, you know, I always defended Anthony Fauci. I always liked Anthony Fauci. I always thought the right-wingers were crazy for attacking him during COVID. But I got to tell you, I think after seeing these diaries, I think they were right. I mean, major progressive shows are now saying that they think he's right. Major liberal figures are admitting this. I'm talking about shows like the Young Turks and others. where they're just, like, stunned by what they're seeing in this diary and then to have it followed up by Anthony Fauci. I will say he looks good. He sounds good. He doesn't look like an 85-year-old man. He's not doddering at all. So that's impressive. A lot of times you get these public figures. They're out for a couple of years. They come in and they look like old and frail. I think he looks robust, which makes it even worse because he's clearly, clearly intending to deceive there. Let's go over to just some of the, for those of you, you can read all the diaries. Rand Paul has put them up. publicly so you can read the whole thing. You can just start scrolling through him. He is, he lied about fatality rates. It was around the same as, in fact, a little bit lower than a really bad flu year. It was a little bit lower. That was the estimated fatality rate from COVID. We said this over and over. It's the flu. It's the flu. So he lied about the fatality rates. He lied about six feet. He lied. He said, where'd you come up with six feet? He didn't know where he came up with it, just pulled it out of his ear. He lied about masks. He lied about there being any science. He lied, he lied. And then it's like he wallowed in the attention. That was another part of this diary that you get to see. It's him wallowing in the adulation. I'm the most famous person in the world. This is just unbelievable. Wallowing in the money, wallowing in the fame, wallowing in it while people were locked in nursing homes. dying away from their loved ones based on Anthony Fauci's lies to America and the Trump administration. Yes. It is one of the darkest chapters in U.S. And as I wrote, I mean, I'm not going to let Trump off the hook here. He went along with 10 days to flatten the spread, 14 days. And the moment he did that, this would have been, I believe, if I don't have a date, right, it's March 17, March 18, 2020. He ended his first term on that day because that's when once you lock the country down for 7 to 10 to 14 days. you were done because you can never open it up again because, oh, you'll be killing people. And Berks who worked with Anthony Fauci, Deborah Berks literally admitted that in her book that we didn't have anything. We just wanted to buy time to get the country shut down. And an important point here is that Josh Hawley, Senator Holly mentioned him making money. Here's what people need to realize about Anthony Fauci. He was the J. Edgar Hoover of public health, meaning...

If you recall, David Gah Hoover, I think his career spanned from the 1930s to the late 1960s as the FBI director. And the lesson from his FBI directorship was we were never to allow any unelected public official in the United States get that much power, control, monopoly power over an organization or a branch of the U.S. government. And we didn't learn anything because that's exactly what Anthony Fauci did. He was in charge of the financing. He was in charge of the approval. He was in charge of awarding the contracts. He was in charge of the narrative, the messaging, the vaccines. I mean, you could pile all this. He was a man who would rival De Edgar Hoover's power at his peak, and it never should have been allowed to happen. And one of the funniest comments was Anthony Fauci. I think this was one of his testimonies four or five years ago with Van Paul. He actually said, and I ran it up the train of the people who work under me and all up the chain at the public health. Everyone agreed with me. Well, of course they're going to agree with you. You're the top dog. You're controlling their contracts. So he would use that kind of Jerome Powell review or, you know, all the people that depend on me agree that I'm right. And that's what he was actually arguing. Yes. That's the real lesson here. In terms of whether he's going to be punished. for this i just can't it's never happened it just never happened in general if he were going to be punished the minute the obstruction began he would have been or at least after the humiliation ritual that took place during that hearing he had been arrested for contempt but he wasn't And so, and so it has a lawyer have been, but he wasn't. And so that's not going to happen. We're not getting accountability, and that's the real frustrating thing for people who are paying attention. Here's why it's important, though. History has to judge this, COVID correctly. History cannot be allowed to misjudge COVID. And so even though none of the news media, the mainstream news media, is even covering this, it's like it's not even happening. if you're watching mainstream news. But it's happening and it will inform history forever. That is the important thing here. We also learned through the diary that Anthony Fauci likely suffered a catastrophic vaccine injury. And now he has scrubbed that. That has somehow the lawyers got that scrubbed. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was talking about that just yesterday. And all of a sudden that's been scrubbed. But the same jab he ran interference for. And here's how he did it by saying there were no other treatments for COVID. So the jab was the only treatment. So it got the emergency use authorization. There were no other treatments. And there were other treatments. Lots of them, but the man himself cashed out so hard on that that he was willing to look past his own vaccine injury. Yeah, and that is a shocking development as well about his own vaccine. And, of course, he wouldn't answer that today. But what's fascinating, a couple of key things, too, is he helped suppress both, so he stops anyone.

from criticizing this or talking about any other treatment options, including doctors, including doctors who would be fired, doctors would be deplatformed, doctors who would be faced serious reputational harm if they went against anything Anthony Fauci and the public health and authorities were saying. And Anthony Fauci... Is the man responsible ultimately for pharmacies, not fulfilling prescriptions for Ivermectin or not? You know, like you couldn't even have a doctor prescribe you anything. It's the whole state of our medical care became, well, we have to go all listen, bow to one man and one message and we can't have it. It's insane. It would not, we did not become, we lost America. for about a two-year period at least during the COVID lockdown. Anthony Fauci was the man behind it, the mastermind, along with Francis Susan Collins, along with the World Health Organization, and along with every state's... most every state, random public health official who just blindly went along with it. But it was mostly, it really was mostly Anthony Fauci in the driver's seat. He really was the architect of this whole thing. He was the architect of the stop, you know, shut down the government to stop the spread. He even says in his diaries that he was trying to, you know, use timing. to upend President Trump during President Trump's campaign going into 2020. He talks about that explicitly, talks about, you know, stopping the Vax rollout or putting or rolling forward the Vax rollout. And I mean, on and on and on. It was pure politics and money for the guy. And again, if you were one of those people whose elderly mom or dad was in a nursing home and died while you watched through a paint of glass or on FaceTime, It's Anthony Fauci's fault. If you were someone who could not get an Ivermectin prescription filled because the Walgreens or the CVS pharmacist was taking marching orders from Anthony Fauci, that's Anthony Fauci's fault. If you were someone whose loved one was put on a ventilator, even though they didn't need it and died, you got one guy to blame. And it's Anthony Fauci and he refuses to take responsibility. I hope he repents. He's getting old. He's only got a limited time left. He is on the clock because what he did for his own power and for himself, the number of people who are dead because of that one man, I mean, I'm telling you, he should be worried about his immortal soul. He's worried about reputational harm. That's literally what it comes down to. And this is important. I wrote the book, The Great Reset, Global Elites and the permanent lockdown. And literally the first third of the book or more is about Anthony Fauci and COVID and the narrative and suppressing dissent and the whole bypassing of democracy overnight, you know, school closures and church closures and weddings and funerals and surgeries canceled.

Mass just essentially we became like China overnight. Unelected bureaucrats just declared that we were no longer free and you had to lock down. But here's the thing. People will look at this and this passionate observer might say, oh, listen to these people. They're just too critical. They were following the best science at the time. It's easy to look back and say, oh, you know, they did this wrong and they did that. And that's not the case. A, the diaries, but let's go beyond the diaries. We know through decades of public comments from Anthony Fauci that masks don't work, that lockdowns don't work, that the best thing for a pandemic is not going to be, you can't vaccinate your way out. These are all things he literally said. You have them on video, on record. And he also said that essentially that people need to be moving and healthy and go about their lives and stay fit. And that is the way you fight a pandemic, not all of this, you know, masking and locking down. And he literally gave interviews. I'm talking he gave interviews even after COVID was out. He was still giving that in the early parts before he went complete power hungry. So we also know that pandemic playbooks and planning all cautioned against lockdowns repeatedly and how they don't work and how they cause more problems than they allegedly solve, et cetera, et cetera. All of that was thrown out for this weird ideological power grab in 2020. So I don't want to hear anyone say, well, we know no better. It's easy in hindsight. No, we knew in force. I knew. We knew in real time. Mark, unfortunately, I'm out of time. You knew, I knew. We said it. We got crap for it. Climate Depot.com, Mark Morana. We do need to take a quick break. Good afternoon. Welcome to the program, the Vicki McKenna show. We don't plead the fifth here. We just lay it on the table. We will talk about Anthony Fauci. We will talk about that hearing. You're not going to hear about that if you flip on your local news station tonight or you pick up the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. They will gloss over the extraordinary hearing. that Senator Paul held with Anthony Fauci. Ron Johnson was there. He will join me on the show. We'll also talk about the debate none of you watched. And that's okay. None of the Democrats watched it either. We'll talk about the Democrat debate. Francesca Hong's the candidate. I'm just here to say it. Before we get to anything, though, here's your word to win. Bank. B-A-N-K for our inflation vacation slash sizzling summer cash contest. Go to newsstock-1130.com or W-I-B-A.com. Enter the keyword bank. You have till 55 minutes past the hour, you could win $1,000 in our nationwide contest. We'll call you if you win. You may also play on the I-Heart Radio app. All right, let's get to it. I've got a couple of pieces of audio and then we'll tap in with Senator Ron Johnson, who is at the hearing today with Anthony Fauci, who has got a pardon, an unconditional pardon. He is an unconditional pardon. But he pled the fifth 111 times, 111 times. That was the count that I last saw. So let me give you an idea of what this sounded like.

because Senator Josh Hawley, more than anybody else at the hearing, more than Rand Paul who did a marvelous job, more than Senator Ron Johnson who did a marvelous job. The person you want to go find is Senator Josh Hawley. I don't have the time to play all whatever, eight minutes of him, 10 minutes of him. So how about just a minute or two? This sums up Anthony Fauci's appearance today under oath. After being subpoenaed, here it is, Josh Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? Let's try something. What day of the week is it today? On the divisive counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What color tie you're wearing? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What colors the carpet in front of you?

On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. Let's just get one thing straight. You don't have any rights under the Fifth Amendment because you've been pardoned, as you very well know, as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more. Brown v. Walker, 1896, when he has been pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege. You know that. Your lawyer is sitting behind you now shifting nervously in their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is about contempt. That was just part of what Josh Holly did over and over and over again. Here's Joni Ernst. We've got a cut from Joni Ernst. Anthony Fauci with some unbelievable experiments that were done in pursuit, allegedly. of COVID treatments. Have a listen to Senator Ernst. NIH funded putting aborted babies fingers and scalps off the heads of aborted babies and putting them into the backs of research mice. The scalps later grew fine baby hair in the mice. They even included those disgusting photos in their research paper that you funded. Not all of those were research on coronaviruses, but some were. Thankfully, the current NIH director has said, no more of this. Dr. Anthony Fauci, yes or no, do you think that human aborted parts should be put into mice for coronavirus research? The advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. I heard that story when it came out. I thought it was too much. I thought it was probably a hoax. I couldn't find documentation or confirmation on that story. I thought that was a hoax. That was real. Supposedly, in the name of coronavirus research, they were splicing aborted baby parts onto mice. This went on and on. Hours of it today were Anthony Fauci being confronted with his own diary, where he describes. how he knew darn well the death rate from COVID was only 0.2%. But he inflated the death rate of COVID by a thousand percent. He knew masking had no science behind it whatsoever. He knew six-foot social distancing was completely arbitrary. He knew it. He knew it. What he says in his diary is that everybody loved him. He was the most famous man in the world, and we had to stop Trump. We had to stop Trump. All of this, your elderly parents or grandparents in nursing homes who were prohibited from seeing you,

and died in those nursing homes without the touch of a loved one or the voice of a loved one in their ear as they passed. All of that was so that the Deep State, led by Anthony Fauci, and make no mistake, he was the titular head of the Deep State, could beat Trump. And Anthony Fauci's response to all of his own... confessions in his diary was to say an advice of counsel under my rights under the constitution i plead the fifth amendment we'll take a quick break senator Ron Johnson's going to join me in just a moment welcome back to the program it's the vicky mckenna show so it is true Anthony Fauci was the ceremonial head of the deep state ladies and gentlemen he just was Those of you who didn't get a chance to pay any attention to the Anthony Fauci hearings, I highly encourage you to go download or at least just go click on some posts. Highly recommend Josh Hawley, Rand Paul, Senator Ron Johnson, Joni Ernst, all of them. Bernie Moreno, I couldn't play his comments because some of them, I just didn't want to have to make Brandon edit everything from Moreno's comments. But Senator Ron Johnson standing by. His own diary, in his own words, he would not confirm, confront, or even respond to, Senator, because he pled the fifth, despite a pardon, despite not having the authority to plead the fifth because he was pardoned. And yet that's what he did. That was the last middle finger that Anthony Fauci threw to the American people. I'll just let you jump right in here. Well, he really was between a rock and hard place here because. Yeah, Hobbs obviously wants to preserve his image of, you know, St. Anthony Fauci that the media and show the Democrats continue to bestow on him. But if he answered the questions honestly, he would have just further incriminated himself, totally destroyed his reputation. And, you know, if you answered them dishonestly, he literally would have opened himself up to legal jeopardy. So. He really had no other alternative. It was interesting because I did a lot of work preparing for that hearing. But, you know, within my permit subcommittee staff, there was a little sidebed going. I think most of them were saying he was going to do exactly what he did. I'm going to say something to plead the fifth. There's only one of one of my staff members said, no, he's going to testify. That guy is, I think, eating crow for lunch today. So, again, again, it didn't surprise me. It's unfortunate. We've now sent a letter to Anthony Fauci requesting a transcribed interview. And if he doesn't do it voluntarily, we'll subpoena him. And, you know, transcribed interview we'll be able to do is, you know, over the course of a day, lay out the case. And back, I think Rand did a great job in his opening statement. Again, I don't know how you could listen to Rand's opening statement and not realize. This guy's been lying to us from day one. You're right. I mean, Josh Hawley, he had to be, I think he's been a former prosecutor, but if not, he should have been. He just, it was just masterful. He just.

devastatingly effective. You know, we did get together as a committee. This doesn't happen very often, but, you know, I suggested and we did it, where we got together and say, what are you going to cover? What are you going to cover? What are you going to cover? So, you know, every public senator had sort of his assigned lane, and they did a great job. So Holly really kind of had one of the easier pickings, but he just did a fabulous job of the grant money. that Anthony Fauci, and I didn't realize it, I knew he got, you know, I knew he's soliciting these awards, right, to get, not grand money, but awards, you know, like over a million dollars. I did not know, and this is, but Josh Hawley's staff uncovered the fact that, you know, there were, he used his staff, he used government devices, he, he used his position. to the strong arm these organizations to give him these awards worth more than a million dollars while people were dying globally, oftentimes dying because he denied the early treatment by sabotaging it, you know, dying from the COVID injections, dying from the coronavirus that he funded gain in function research, which probably produced the very same coronavirus. I mean, this guy is just guilty. with all capital letters at exclamation points. He knew that the death rate from COVID, the natural death rate from COVID was approximately that of a flu. He knew it, he inflated it. He knew six feet social distancing was not based in science. He knew it. He said it anyway. He knew masks didn't work. He had his own staff sending him emails saying, there are no studies saying masks work. He knew he did it anyway. He knew ivermectin, and you pointed this out, and hydroxychloroquine, had random controlled studies showing they worked on coronavirus. He knew he shelved them anyway. He went out and actually was the reason why doctors who were writing these prescriptions didn't get those prescriptions filled for their patients, why people had to fight into courts. to get those medications, he knew he did it anyway. He knew Remdesivir killed people. He knew he did it. Those doctors had their careers destroyed. Yeah. You know, the fact that they did remdesivir, which nurses called run, death is near. Yes. Again, that was over $3,200 for a course of treatment versus ivermectin and hydroschlorcom, literally pennies a dose to produce. So, no, it's, again, the evidence against him just continues to mount. We've always known it. But now we're getting hard evidence and oftentimes in his own words. In his own words, his, his addiction was the adulation. His addiction was the ego. He bragged about having dinner with Bono and Jeff Bezos and Jake Tapper and his lovely wife and Jeff Zinzance and all of these people. He was, he couldn't help but worship himself. And that's the sideshow in the diaries.

The hard stuff is the stuff that is infuriating because I remember the pictures of people taking a picture through a rainy window pain of their dying mother. They couldn't see in a nursing home because Anthony Fauci recommended keeping people away from nursing homes and locking those poor people up so that they could have recirculated air spreading disease. And they died alone. Without anyone, I remember the terrified emails I got from people who said, they want to put my husband on a ventilator or they've got my husband on a ventilator. Can you reach out to Dr. Corey for me? I remember that, like it was yesterday. And there's Anthony Fauci. And he had the audacity to put out a tweet that said, good versus evil with himself is the good guy. Today, after he pled the fifth. I've been told that that may not be as a real accountant. But regardless, I'm sure that's exactly what he's thinking. No, we're going to hold a public event. I've been talking about this and kind of word got out, and so people are already submitting testimonies, people that kind of filtering them into me. But I spent a couple weekends ago reading many of them, and they are just gut and heart-wrenching. They are horrific. And there's so many commonalities. So again, these are testimonies coming from all the country, all kinds of different hospitals. But boy, you went into a hospital and you said you're on Vax. You get comments like, your dad's going to die. What do you expect? They're on Vaxed. They put you in kind of a different ward. You know, I would call the death ward. You know, whether you, you beg them, I don't want an industrial, I don't want a ventilator. You got hooked up anyway. There was one case where Lily, a wife wanted her husband to get last rights. The only way they'd give him last rights was if you'd take a dose of remdesivir. So, I mean, it is growth. I mean, these testimonies are just, like I said, they're just heart-wrenching. And they're not one-off. It's not just one institution that did this. This was in hospitals across the country at the direction of St. Anthony Fauci and Joe Biden. Remember, this is a pandemic of the unvaxed. So the only reason, you know, our economy was shutting down that all these people are dying is because they were unvaccated, the unwashed. So let's be cruel to them. Don't treat them for disease. If they come in the hospital, oh, we'll make sure that, we'll make sure that COVID's deadly for them. Again, it's sick, sick, sick, and the leader of the pack, the leader of all this evil was anthony. Anthony Fauci, who was Project Veritas then. This is when James O'Keefe was with Project Veritas uncovered the DARPA documents that Anthony Fauci knew about that were explicitly talking about weaponizing a coronavirus and using MRNA technology to treat the disease caused by the coronavirus. That, I mean, that was, and we weren't supposed to talk about it. He couldn't say it on X. He at the time it was Twitter. He couldn't say it on Facebook.

I mentioned that my doctor, who at the time my COVID doctor, was Dr. Pierre Corey, gave me hydroxychloroquine, I had pill form of ivermectin, and whatever the drug for asthma is. And I was shut down off X, off Twitter at the time. You couldn't say it. You mentioned this in your statement. Emergency use authorization was only available for those shots if there were no other treatments available, but there were. And you held up, what was it, an 8 to 10 inch stack today of those studies that showed hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin. showed very promising results in in raining in the coronavirus if in fact you you got infected with it. So. It was a scam, and Anthony Fauci led that scam, and people are dead because of it. Lots of them. So those were studies. The reason I did that, I got contacts by Peter Corey, because there was a quote in there. He did an interview in CNN with Jake Tapper, where he said there's no evidence that hymectin is effective. It could be dangerous, could be toxic. This was on August 29th to 2021. That exact same day, there was a site that was tracking all the studies coming in. And that's what that stack was. Those were all the studies showing positive results, you know, 60, 70% improvement over, you know, what was available and taught you, there's no proof. Again, again, I keep saying, there's no proof that these shots cause cancer. Well, there's no proof if you don't look for it. There's no evidence if you continue to deny it. And again, that is what is so frustrating. And, Vicki, how many times you deep platformed? from Facebook after our interviews. When all I did was quote... At least twice. The FDA and the CDC numbers on... the deaths and the adverse events on COVID and compared them to the Ivermectin. There's no comparison. I mean, you look at that chart, it's obvious that ivermectin, hydroxy chloroquine are way safer than REMDazivir or the COVID injections. It's just obvious, but that Anthony Fauci, again, kind of working, and you have the successful lawsuit by Missouri and Louisiana against Facebook. We know that the Biden administration was there in those social media companies, making sure that people like you were the platform. I would put your chart up, your famous chart showing Vera's data. I would put up your famous chart. I would get a 30-day timeout from Facebook. I couldn't post for 30 days. That happened at least twice. I had to reach out to your office so you could reach out to Facebook and say, what are you doing?

to try to get my account back. A lot of people lost their accounts permanently. But it wasn't that ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were safer and they were. Orders of magnitude safer because they are safe. They're just safe drugs, period. If you compare them to Tylenol, they're safe. But they were actually effective. The Vax was not effective. Ramdesivir was not effective. Neither one of those two alternatives did anything. for people who had COVID. That's the thing. And there's Anthony Fauci other one. You're not a horse, y'all. Anthony Fauci got, you know, probably every fricking booster there was, unless he took the Slebeles because he knew better. But he got, I think, COVID a couple times. He had a pulmonary infarction in June. And again, I would have asked him, but he wouldn't answer the question. But, you know, did you ever think that maybe? Because that was one of the side effects that Peter Mark's denied. That was one of the ones that Dr. Anna Sharfman pointed out in their data runs, Pomeranian Farsh. So, no, it's, he's got an awful lot to be held accountable for. The day of accounting began today. And again, I think Chairman Paul did a great job. We continued to ask the questions. So he forced him to take the fifth. And we just kept laying out the evidence in the case. And if we get him in as a transcribed interview, if you please the fifth, we'll be able to, over the course of a day, just lay out the entire record with all the documents, bundle that up in a nice Senate report for history. History is the winner here from what you did today. History is the winner. People are very frustrated. Well, you can't. He's pardoned. He's pardoned. Okay, you can't arrest him. Maybe, you know, there's some talk about state charges or this or that. Nah, it's not going to happen. The winner today. was history, American history and the United States from what you did. So don't let anyone say, well, where's the, you know, how come you're not marching him out in handcuffs? History is the winner. And you know who is also never going to win this? I don't care how many times he pleads the fifth because he's got a reckoning coming. He's an old man. And that would be Anthony Fauci. He will get his, his. reward one way or another. Thank you, Senator, for what you did today. Pass along. I think a lot of people were very, very happy with what Senator Paul, Senator Josh Hawley, Senator Earn, Senator Moreno, and all the rest of you did today. So thank you. Everything. You as well, and we'll be right back. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. So since none of you watch the Democratic debate, I understand. That's okay. Democrats didn't watch the Democratic debate. A whole bunch of political types did. Brian Schimming joins me on the program. Republican chair of the state of Wisconsin. You know, you and I were talking off air, Brian. Francesca Hong's the nominee. She is. She got a pass. She got a total pass from all the candidates last night. She lied on stage.

But nobody called her on it. And so I think that what that debate said more than anything, never mind policy, is that the Democratic Party is acquiesced to Francesca Hall. Yeah, they've just paved in now. It's complete. cave in. And they have not, I mean, the people on that stage who could have stood there and said, look, I'm different than her because even though I'm a loyal Democrat and everything else, I'm not crazy. I'm not a socialist. I haven't voted against bills that, you know, regulate boys and girls' bathrooms, things like that. Nobody had the guts. on that stage in that debate last night. And by the end of that debate, they basically signed the Democratic Party over to Francesca Hall. Yes. By the way, DSA and the DCCC, the National Democrats and the National Democratic Socialists, no daylight between them. The chairman of the DCCC just announced that they are working together. They are unified. So that is true here in Wisconsin apparently as well. But here's the thing. And I would say that Brennan tried. didn't accomplish it, but I think he did try to differentiate himself as kind of the boring, normal white guy on the stage. That said, everyone should have said, you said abolished police, you said abolish prisons, you said abolish the Senate, you said abolish the presidency. That's your platform. That's not what Wisconsin wants. We are not doing that. Not a single one of them did it because not a single one of them could. They couldn't lose the left flank. And to buttress that point, 10, 12 years ago, maybe they could have done it. Not now. They can't do it now because they're afraid of offending that end of the party, which is now, you know, it is the tail waggon, the dog, but the tail's getting bigger and the dog's getting smaller in the Democratic Party. So, look, I was in Appleton last night to speak at an event. I was down at Clifford's down in Hale's Corners here this morning. Normal people don't spend all their time watching debates or even necessarily taking coverage of the debate. But they basically, you know what? It's like Aaron Rogers getting titled to the Chicago Bears. Now Francesca Hong has taken title of the State Democratic Party. Now, we'll see what further polling and other things bring.

But at 13 days out from the primary, if you're not going to separate yourself from the frontrunner, the governor's message when he endorsed. David Crowley was, you know, I know I've had two of my lieutenant governors running. I know I've had two of my personally selected cabinet officials running, but I want you to vote, and you're saying to voters, I want you to vote against the frontrunner, Francesca Hong, and to Mr. 5%, who goes by the name of David Crowley. Well, is that going to work? It's not going to work. It can't work. I don't care how much GOTV they pile in. I don't care how many, you know, knock and drags they get before August 11th. You know, that's not going to be enough to close this gap. What they needed to do is land a blow. Somebody needed to land a blow on Francesca Hong. The only person who tried was a reporter after it was over, you know, do you support abolishing the police? I never said I wanted to abolish the police. Are you kidding me, ladies? She then blamed Tom Tiffany for wanting to defund police. So now you know what the campaign is going to be. The campaign is going to be. to the general public the opposite of what she believes. And by the way, the reporter dutifully reported that, dutifully reported what she said without criticism. And so that's going to be the campaign. And everyone's getting comfortable with the idea Francesca Hong will just lie. And nobody on the Democrat side. will be able to lay a glove on her. I mean, for heaven's sake, she walks up, she looks like, you know, I mean, she looks like Gumby when she gets on stage in that green suit. And you would have thought that would have, yeah, you would have thought people would have felt a little bit more confident because she, let's just say this, she didn't look the part. No, that green outfit, I was like, wow, I saw that on an old Batman show one time. I was like, where did that come from? You know what's interesting? She's the riddler. She's the riddler. Yeah. She's the riddler. From the moment just missing the orange hair and all the, you know, so the truth of the matter here. is from the moment you and I are talking right now, for the next 24 hours, will be the most consequential moment in the Democrats between now and the primary and between now and the general. The reason for that is the Democrats have a decision to make. She is clearly the leader, if not well above other folks.

in a lot of the private polling and public polling that you see, are they going to continue to try to pour millions of dollars into David Crowley when, if the perception and the reality is she's going to walk with it. I'll give you the parallel. In 2022, remember you had Melendella Barnes, who was the favorite candidate, the U.S. Senate primary. They push other Democrats out again, two or three weeks out. From the primary, they pushed him out. Why did they push them out? Not because they necessarily wanted Mandela Barnes. What they wanted is for those other primary folks in that U.S. Senate primary against him not to drop every nuke they could find and injure the guy for the general. I would argue here we are four years later with the same problem. Are they going to go lean on the lesser lights, which are almost all of them, in this primary? not to go crazy on Francesca Hong for the next 13 days. I don't know if they, I don't know if they've got it in them to do it. I mean, all the Apo, by the way, all the Apo that has dropped on any of the candidates, mostly Barnes and Crowley and Rodriguez, 100% of that's coming from Democrats. All that Apo is coming from Democrats. Okay, so the Rodriguez Apo was probably coming from Keldar Royce, or it was coming from Francesca Hong. The Dirt-Magoop, that came from, they had to have come from the Mandela Barnes campaign. That was, I can guarantee you. It was not from us. I had a reporter asked me, oh, did you guys drop all this opposition? I was like, no, but I think I owe some money to people who did. I said because they're nuking each other here with less than two weeks or two weeks to go to the primary. So they're beating each other over that. This is the exact thing you and I talked about after the Republican and Democrat conventions. This whole thing, front to back up, down, diagonally, in, out has been about. stopping Francesca Hong, and at least from what we're seeing so far, they're not close to doing it. The occupation at Willie Street, they're calling it the Kras, we'll call it the Fraz, the Francesca Hong autonomous zone in downtown Madison, which is not going anywhere, and at least not in the near term. The whole point of that was to boost Francesca Hong for her base, and her base is Madison. You would think... You would think you could point to that and say, look at the crazy lady. Look at her brown shirts. Look at her, you know, her mass army on the ground. Look at what these people are doing. They'll do that to the whole state. Nope. You would think that would have been a liability. But on the left, it was an asset to her to do that. Now it only remains to be seen how long that remains useful to Francesca Hong and will they dismantle it after the August 11th primary. Well, and to that point, her margin in this primary, let's just say it's anywhere within 7, 8, 10, you know, whatever the number is, and what it will continue to be. Her margin of that protest site where they literally have the street shut down where you had that police, you know, had the shooting, her margin in that primary will be from about a 10-mile radius of where that happened.

and she knows it. So she's playing to the galleries who she needs to win the primary and who she needs to turn out in massive numbers in the general. She's planned to her. So, I mean, in some ways I thought of it initially as an unforced error, but candidates where we are right now are playing to their own crowds. They're trying to play to their own people and get them to go vote. You can have people come up and say to, oh, I really like you. I like where you are and this and that and everything. But if they don't go vote, it doesn't matter. So she, the intensity in this election. is in an area where she represents right now in downtown Madison. They go vote. She wins the primary. They don't go vote. She loses the primary. Doesn't it seem like if they can't get Barnes out, they can't get Crowley over the line? I think that seems pretty clear. Right now. Go ahead. Well, I was going to say, I'm glad you mentioned that, because in the cross tabs, in the poll that came out yesterday, meaning the cross tabs are kind of the detail work. of the poll she was tied get this Francesca Hong was tied with David Crowley in the 414 area code well the 414 area code is Milwaukee she's tied with him on that poll in Milwaukee. Well, so Crowley, to your point, needs Mandela out or reduced to 2.1% or whatever. So, I mean, she needs them out. If I was David Crowley, you and I talked about this, if I was Crowley and got dragged into this primary, back into the primary by the governor, I would have said, look, you need to give me like $5 or $10 million. and this and that, and here's a list of 20 things and get Mandela out and do all this other things. Has any of that happened yet? No. Amazing. That you would have thought that the condition would have been to get Barnes out. But Barnes and Crowley, everyone should know this. Barnes and Crowley share a voter base. And if you can't, if one of those two can't get out, then that voter base gets split. And then when you have French House calling, that actually does blow my mind that she's tied with Crowley in the 414 area code. Because she buried, I bet you she buries him in 608. I bet you she buries him in this 608 area code. And so there's your gubernatorial candidate. I mean, in that debate, again, that nobody watched last night, you didn't have to, showed none of the candidates, the opposition to Francesca Hong, were willing to go hard and try to foreclose her ability to become the nominee. And so, and again, and then you see that headline today where the Democratic...

campaign, the congressional campaign committee, the DNC, they say there's no daylight between us and the DSA, the Democrat Socialists of America, quote, we are unified. We are unified. Well, and we may see the preview to the movie next Tuesday, because next Tuesday, as we talked about the other day, is the U.S. Senate primary in Michigan. The Democratic U.S. Senate primary in Michigan is next Tuesday. Very similar layout. A DSA guy versus the establishment Democrat in the primary. The Democrat, the establishment Democrat is behind in the primary. The Democrat governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, came out and endorsed that Democrat establishment person the other day. So I guarantee you, Francesca Hong is hoping for a DSA victory in Michigan next Tuesday. Why would she hope for that? because it helps her make the case, not just in New York, but out here in the Midwest, we're winning. Thanks for coming on the program. Brian, always great to have you. Brian Schimming, RPW, chair. Thanks a ton. Good back. And we are going to take a break in the Vicki McKenna Show. That is going to do it on the program for me. Everybody have a great afternoon. Coming up on tomorrow's show, we'll dive more into the Kras, the Corey Ruiz Autonomous Zone. Have a great afternoon. Hey, it's Ryan Sechrest here, and I have discovered a fun to escape from the daily grind Chumba Casino. Chumba Casino has hundreds of social casino-style games. It's all free to play anytime, anywhere, with daily bonuses. So get to chumbacasino.com. No purchase necessary. VGW. Group. Boy, prohibited by loss. See terms and conditions, 21 plus. Happy birthday, America! It's time to celebrate and play your favorite Las Vegas casino games by American-owned SpinQuest.com. What's better than fireworks than American Pie? Hitting a black deck in the palm of your hand, and you won't lose your fingers. Over a thousand games, including slots and live dealers, and $30 point packs are on sale for 10. SpinQuest.com, buy American players for American players. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. Dad, Disney activities are on Lingo Kids. What? Moana and Elsa and Marvel Spider-Man, all of them. On Lingo Kids? Yes, Dad, on Lingo Kids. That's pretty cool. I know. You just lost them for the rest of the afternoon. Worth it. Full of fun activities inspired by Disney's Moana, Frozen, Zootopia, Marvel Spider-Man, and more. Lingo Kids is where little ones discover more about favorite characters. Lingo Kids! Everything Kids love. Download it for free. This is the race fans wait for all year. EMSA returns to Virginia International Raceway, August 21 through 23rd, as the world's top GT teams and drivers battle for championship points on VIR's iconic road course. See Porsche, BMW, Corvette, Mercedes-AmG, Ford, and more competing wheel-to-wheel. Three days of racing, paddock access, and nonstop action. Secure your tickets now at racevIR.com. That's R-A-C-V-I-R.com.