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Interesting. And it's so weird because you have this pushback from a lot of communities and you've covered them extensively where they don't want the data centers, right? And there's extreme pushback ground level from local government agencies. But there are also areas that are welcoming them. So I guess if you're planning a data center, you should do your due diligence and find out if they're wanted or not in a particular area. Yes, I mean, there's definitely a piece of that of communities that are very hostile towards these projects and those that are more welcoming. These projects just need so much power and land that it's not always as simple as looking at a map and looking for a favorable community. You also need all of the things around it that are suitable to a data center to. to even kind of be on the board in the first place, if that makes sense. At the state level, what kind of oversight is there? Because, you know, we've had local municipalities vote against them. But on the state level, does it seem like Georgia is still welcoming these data centers? And is there any sort of regulation in place for them? Yeah, I mean, all signs right now from state leaders are very welcoming towards these projects. Governor Camp has been pretty supportive of we're still continuing to recruit data centers. The legislature hasn't really slowed down the pump of whether it's incentives or kind of any of the tools that they have. Primarily, it's a local zoning decision. So it's really community by community. whether they have zoning in place to either decide where and when they want data centers to go or you know, it's kind of the whole roadmap to being able to build one in their community. Zach Hanson from the Atlanta Journal of Constitution, joining us live on the Mark Aram Show. In your piece, I love graphics. There's a nice graphic here on AJC.com about the data centers under construction or proposed data centers. And Atlanta's leading, even Northern Virginia, which has been the epicenter of data centers. It looks like, according to this well-done graphic, that Atlanta has more data centers in the pipeline than even Northern Virginia right now. That's correct. We lead the country. We have the most data centers, or data center space under construction of any major market. And Northern Virginia is the largest, still by far the largest existing market. We are the second largest existing market and the largest, the fastest growing is probably the best way to put it. I'm going to bring politics into this. Senator Jon Ossoff was on Atlanta's morning news with Chris Chandler. Chandler asked the senator about data centers. This is what he had to say. explain how they're going to hold these big tech companies accountable to the public commitments that they've made, that it won't be ratepayers, ordinary folks, households and small businesses facing sky-high utility bills as a result of the huge energy demand from these projects.

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I mean, that energy concern, the water consumption is a concern. But another great graphic on AJC.com, the AJC poll about data centers, 63% of Democrats strongly disapprove, while only 40% of Republicans strongly disapprove. I mean, as far as issues are concerned, not the widest stretch of poll numbers there between left and right. No, it's been an issue that uniquely kind of cuts across political lines where these projects, despite how much investment and kind of the economic promises behind them are pretty broadly unpopular. Some of that is probably because these projects are so big and take so long to build. It's difficult to feel the impacts of tax revenue until we're five, ten years down the road. But, you know, you kind of feel the negative first because you feel construction. You don't feel, you know, tax, you know, lower taxes until they come to fruition. But, I mean, those water, those energy concerns, I mean, that's really dominating the discussion on this because that's a regional issue and not just a local, you know. how it impacts every individual community. Zach, I want to end on this. Yesterday, we talked about the Department of Energy Warning that there could be rolling blackouts in 17 states because of huge energy consumption during this nationwide heat wave. And I offered that, you know what, with energy consumption rising and rising, I would imagine the next decade or two, we're going to see more plans for nuclear power plants being developed across the United States. Is that a solution to this? energy crunch we're seeing right now. That would definitely, you know, seemingly be a part of the puzzle. It's just that it's expensive and they're difficult projects to get to fruition. But, I mean, the build out of the power grid that's taking place right now, which is largely due to data centers, is unprecedented. And it is something that when I talk to utility sources of mine, you know, they haven't seen this in 40, 50 years as far as how quickly we are building out the grid. how nuclear fits into that, I frankly don't have the expertise to know, but it would seemingly be a piece of that. Yeah, no doubt. Zach Hansen, Atlanta Journal Constitution. Great stuff, Zach, as always, appreciate your time, my friend. Appreciate it, Mark. There you go. So, David, we just heard about the big one yesterday, but Zach pouring over the applications, so two more data center applications. And that's crazy. If you look at the chart, Northern Virginia has by far more data centers than we do, but we have more coming than they do. Which is crazy. We're becoming the data center capital of the world. Any updates on the data center stories? We'll bring them to you throughout the day here on 955. WSB. Right now, let's go to the nation's Capitol, White House correspondent John Decker, joining us on the show. John, good morning. Seems like a really busy day in D.C. today. What are you going to be covering?

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Yeah, it is a busy day, a busy day for the president. He has two big meetings that will happen in the Oval Office. One is in just a few hours. 9.30 Eastern time, President Trump will be meeting with Ukrainian President Philotamier Volodymyr Zelensky. And then at 1130, also in the Oval Office, the President will be meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Both of those leaders are in town for the funeral of Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham's funeral will take place at 2 o'clock Eastern Time in the afternoon at the Washington. Washington National Cathedral, the president will attend that. The president will deliver a eulogy. As far as those meetings that I mentioned with Volodymyr Zelensky and Benjamin Netanyahu, it's possible that the Volodymyr Zelensky meeting is opened up to the White House press pool. I don't think there's any likelihood of the meeting that the president will have with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu opening up to the White House press corps. But we shall see, both of them obviously discussing with the president two major hotspots in the world, the war in Ukraine. And then, of course. the war in Iran. John, I assume both Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Volodymyr Zelensky will also then attend the funeral for Lindsey Graham. Well, that's right. They will. That's the reason why those two leaders have come to town. And for the president, you know, Lindsey Graham was a strong ally, certainly a voice that the president relied on on issues related to foreign policy. They had a very strong relationship. And Lindsey Graham in the U.S. Senate was certainly respected by members of both political parties for being such a strong voice on foreign policy. Yeah, and I think it says a lot to Graham's international bona fides that we have two world leaders in two hotspots of the world where Lindsey Graham was very impactful and very influential. Well, you're right about that. He was influential. The last foreign trip that he took was to Ukraine just before his untimely death from a heart attack, and he made many trips to... Ukraine during the course of his time in the U.S. Senate. And there, of course, is a sanctions bill that was... put forward by Senator Lindsey Graham that has gained a lot of momentum. That's a sanctions bill on Russia. In fact, President Volodymyr Zelensky this afternoon will meet with all of the U.S. senators in the Capitol to discuss trying to get passage of that sanctions bill. It's passed the House. It's languished in the Senate. Even though it has more than 80 supporters for that bill, the president, has not given the green light for the Senate to vote on that legislation. Interesting. White House correspondent John Decker joining us on the mark. You mentioned there might be press availability with the Volodymyr Zelensky meeting and not with the Benjamin Netanyahu meeting. Could that meeting be tense behind closed doors considering what's going on in the Gulf region right now? I think it could be tense behind closed doors. They've got a long relationship. President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu goes back decades so they can speak, you know, honestly, directly with one another. And we know that they do. You know, and the president often, you know, speaks his mind as it relates to how he thinks things should go concerning the war in Iran. He right now, President Trump would like to see a diplomatic approach to ending that conflict. As it relates to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, he would like to see a resum.

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of military operations by the U.S. against Iran. Busy day for the president. Busy day for John Decker. We will monitor your reporting. As always, appreciate your time. Thanks a lot. Have a great day. Bye-bye. All right. Just to recap, so the Lindsey Graham funeral is going to be occurring, Deborah, while we're off the air at 2 p.m. And I believe the first meeting that the president's going to have is coming up around 9.30 this morning. I don't know if it's Benjamin Netanyahu or Volodymyr Zelensky first. I think it's Benjamin Netanyahu. I could be wrong. But as John Decker said, they're probably not open press with the prime minister of Israel, but there should be open press with the president of Ukraine. That says a lot. It really does. about Lindsey Graham's influence, the fact that, you know, both of these world leaders are in the middle of wars right now, and they're coming to pay their respects to Lindsey Graham. The question, obviously, we're going to pay respects to Lindsey Graham, but who is going to carry the baton when it comes to Ukraine and the war that will, you know, be in the president's year? Is anyone up to what Lindsey Graham did for the last five years? Well, since the last year and a half, two years during the second. Trump presidency, but obviously we're going to cover all the big stuff out of D.C. all day today here on 955. W.S.B. From television city in Hollywood. Boy, the way Glenn Miller played. Songs that made the hit parade. I can sing with her. I can sing with her. 924 on the mark. I'm sure that, of course, the amazing intro song to All in the Family. Why am I playing that? Sally Struthers. Gloria. Gloria. She turned 79 years old today. She was the baby. She was the girl in All the Family. Went on to do the infomercials for the starving kids. Sally Struth. Oh, she was also in Gilmore Girls. Happy birthday to Sally Struthers, 70. I'm going to assume that every major cast member of All in the Family, Archie, Edith, Meathead, Gloria. They all have Hollywood Walk of Stars, like Stars in the Hollywood. Right? They have to have. They all reach that level of success. We have, by the way, the latest list of Holly, I'm going to use greats in question mark because there's some less than great people that have stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. But we have the latest inductees. I don't know how you call them. These people will be honored in 2027. And I did a little research. Basically, anybody can be nominated. You pay a fee. And if you get enough. okays, then you can basically buy your own little star. Yeah, you have to pay. So if you get, if you apply and let's say Deborah Green, you get a Hollywood star in the Hollywood, you then have to pay for it. Yeah, you have to pay or the company, the record label, whatever, right? Like they have to, you basically buy it. So Hollywood's not paying for the stars. No, no. But we have a new class coming in, including people like Lil Wayne. Lincoln Park. Carol G. Smashing Pumpkin. Well, hold on. Who's Carol G? Goddle G. She is a Colombian pop singer. Okay. I love her. All right. Smashing Pumpkins, David Gettas, Sia, Grandmaster Flash, the Ramones, Waylon Jennings-Gennings also on the list. Oh, nice. Cheech and Chong, Kate Hudson. Sam Rockwell, you like Sam Rockwell. They've got to be running out of sidewalk space. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot.

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Lisa Kudros got one. Really? Not my least favorite guest on the Mark Arab show of all time. Really? I listened to that. She was not. She wasn't feeling it? She wasn't the way it started because it was an interesting way it started. Yeah, well, I was trying to have fun with her. Yeah, she wasn't like that. Listen, I'll cut her some slack because I only interviewed her once and she was probably doing like 50 call-in interviews. But yeah, she rubbed me the wrong way in that. Okay. All right. Charlemagne the God, Kiki Palmer as well. Love Kiki Palmer. Do I know Kiki Palmer? Yeah, you would recognize Kiki Kramer. All right. She's in a lot of TV movies, yeah. I've been to L.A. a bunch, but I've never been anywhere near the Hollywood Walk of Fame. I know that I've been on it, but not to, like, look for names just because we were down there. I think there have been some stars that got stars and that did something bad and the stars were removed. Like Cosby? I'm sure Cosby, O.J. maybe. Brooke, if you can. During the news break, can you see if how many folks have lost their stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? I'd like to, I'd like to, I bet you there's some. They do have a radio. One for radios. Do you think we should nominate you? No, definitely not. I'm certainly not paying for it. If I sell enough, Vinnie's T-shirts. Yeah, no, I'm not paying for it. And President Trump has one, and like, vandals were attacking it. And I think they, I don't know if they got rid of it or they put up a barrier around it. I think that they put, like, a protective thing on it. Yeah. All right. Anyway, happy birthday, Sally Struthers. That was a lot to wish her a happy birthday. 927 on the Mark Aram Show. Judd has your news, weather, and traffic when we come back, updating our top local stories. Social media, active at Mark Aram and at WSB Radio.

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937 on the mark. I'm show one hour from now. Scott Slades joining us live talking about the Oki-Panokey Swamp. And in two hours, Deborah's got a pair of tickets to give way to see John. Mellencamp, John Mellencamp, who I'm assuming has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Good job by Brooke during the break. Deborah, I'm shocked. Zero stars have been removed from the Hollywood Walk of Fame. I guess that's just fake information we were fed, right? Because it feels like I remember that. Mandela effect? Maybe it was a petition to remove them. Mandela. What did I say? Oh, I did say Mandela. Because Cosby, right? I mean, you're going to. You got to, yeah, anyway, good job, Brooke on that. This is something, again, my memory's failing, but I don't believe I was ever taught this in school. If I was, and I forgot, I apologize to the amazing educators that guided me along my educational journey. But on this date in 1945, a U.S. Army B-25 bomber crashed into. The 79th floor of the Empire State Building in New York City. I remember that from history class. You did get taught that. But not like a huge thing just because of it was the Empire State Building. Yeah. Yeah. And I think like you could see where they fixed it at one point or something. You thought that, you know, growing up in the tri-state area, I would have been that what? On the state of 1945, a U.S. Army B-25 bomber. crashed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building. This was, I guess, 1945 World War II, you know, active Air Force. And in 45, they had like newsreels that you would watch. They'd play before movies. So I pulled one of that. I'd have no recollection of this ever happening.

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The world's biggest skyscraper, New York's 1248 foot high Empire State Building, and a Mitchell bomber flying blind in a fog haze, chief actors in one of the strangest tragedies of the air. With visibility down almost to zero, traveling at 200 miles an hour, the bomber crashed with terrific impact into the 78th and 79th floors of the building, smashing through seven walls. 13 people at work in offices were killed instantly, 26 were injured. A lift crashed down 80 floors killing the occupants. And one man's body was found on a ledge seven stories down. Two days later, the 102-story building reopened. But the hole ripped in the Empire State remains a warning of the perils of low flying among skyscangers. Unbelievable. I have a lot of questions. Obviously, Deborah, you're right. I was not alive when it happened. But I have no recollection of being taught that. And I've been to the Empire State Building. I've done the tour. I've been to the top. I spit off it because I was a kid, and that's what kids do. And I don't remember them saying, oh, by the way, yeah, 79th and 80th. A plumber! And then it opened up two days later. That's crazy. I bet there's something either that says like this is the floor, you know? I can't believe that. I can't believe. And again, I probably was taught that. And I just realized I said, I don't need. to keep that information in my, in my gray matter. But that's insane. Can we bring that music back to our newsreels? I do. Can you hear Chris Chandler finding that during Atlanta's more news? Anyway, that is insane. All right, a quick local stories. A massive drone drug bust here in the state of Georgia. This is in Washington County. Yeah, I don't know where Washington County is. You're the traffic guy that knew all the map, so I do not know Washington County. But this was a big deal. Right. So basically some people said, hey, there's a suspicious vehicle kind of off in this area. It's been there for a while. So police are responding. Maybe something was wrong. Maybe it was abandoned. And what they actually found was some people getting ready to launch a drone. And when they saw them, they kind of quickly scattered into the woods. Well, along with the drone, there were a bunch of packages left at the scene. packed with oxycodone, methamphetamine, cigarettes, tobacco, shoes, knives, chargers. So they're thinking maybe they were going to take this and try to do like a prison drop with it. But the police were able to secure it. Now, as the people ran off, one of the canines was able to chase it down. Oh, good. And then a little while later, they were able to. find the other person so they couldn't get very far but i mean that's a thing we've been talking about for years as drones have been getting more uh technically advanced the the prison drone drop where they just dropped the the goods uh the contraband in the prison yard and and i would imagine prisons have to be aware of this at this point like

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There should be one guard just looking up at the sky the whole time going. The tower, right, to see what comes in? Yeah, exactly. So the canine caught the guys. Oh, speaking of canine, this was, I wish you had given me this story last week, Deborah, before we adopted Walter. And I believe that anyone that owns pets can relate to this. The pet ownership costs in the United States right now are going through the absolute roof. Yeah, especially if you love your pet and you spoil it in every way possible. So the average pet owner now spends about $4,200 every year just on routine care, just on routine care, right? Like regular checkups or making sure his teeth are good or the food that you get and everything. Veterinary prices themselves rose about 43% in these past couple years, and that's because there are staffing shortages. Medical costs have just gone up. After the pandemic, you still had all these shortages of being able to get medicine, especially for pets. There's harder to find certain veterinarians. But a lot of the demands like emergency surgeries, right? Some people just don't think about that when you buy your dog or your cat or a bunny or anything. And those costs can be up to like $10,000 per visit. I was talking about this with Maya because Soba's getting older now. We're not really, she was a street dog, so we don't know how old she is. But, you know, we brought her in for the EKG. echocardiogram echo cardio and that was like a thousand dollars and then brought her back for follow-up x-rays that was close to like three hundred dollars and my and are like We've heard about pet insurance. I have a friend with that has pet insurance. I don't know anything about it. It's just like medical insurance. No, I get that. But is so but like too old to get it? Oh, do they do? I don't know. Maybe there's a colonial life program for senior dogs. Exactly. Where you don't have to get a physical or anything. I mean, because it's, it's crazy. Like, I am blessed to be able to. Again, the vet can tell me it's going to cost whatever X amount of dollars. I'm like, okay, it's my baby. Yeah, what do you do? Yeah, exactly. And I'm blessed to be able to afford that. But I know a lot of pet owners couldn't afford a thousand dollar bill out of nowhere for an EKG or they would just say, no, you know, don't do the EKG. Yeah, well, it says here also that some vets do offer pet insurance and it runs about $62 a month for dogs and 32 for cats. It's not too bad. The only advantage of owning a cat is that it's cheaper. Is that it's cheaper? But I mean, I want to, if you have any experience with pet insurance, like if you are selling pet insurance, don't DM me. But if you have any knowledge about it, go to markarm.com, click on contact us. Or if you're a vet. Yeah. Yeah, I just, I mean, because I don't want to get, it's kind of like. What's the car insurance that ICT hawks on the commercials? Car shield. Car shield. Pet shield. Yeah. Like is that basically pet shield? I don't want to get stuck as ICT says, you don't want to get stuck with unexpected 5,000. I don't want to do that.

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So if you have any knowledge about pet insurance, there's something I want to look into, Mark Aram.com. Oh, one other animal story. This is unbelievable. Obviously, we've been covering the deadly earthquakes in Venezuela, just horrible death tolls and injuries, and the rebuild is going to take forever and cost billions of dollars. But... An amazing story out of Venezuela, Deborah. Yeah, there's a video that shows rescue team still kind of clearing that area where the, it's about a month ago where that earthquake hit Venezuela killed more than 5,500 people. But as they were kind of going through the rubble, they found a dog still alive, curled up next to the body of its owner. I know who did not make it. And after 30 days, this dog was still alive, like obviously malnourished, very scared. But they were able to get it out of the rubble. For the most part, okay, like no broken bones or anything like that, just kind of scared. They took it to a vet and is supposed to be able to make a full recovery. And because it was wearing a collar, they were able to reunite it with its owner who lost her mom and grandmother in the quake. So that has to be like at least one thing that was, you know, they were able to get their pet back. The dog was by its other owner? It's like mom. It was a family. So imagine it was a family with kids and everything like that. The dog stayed by the person that was still in the house. That's... heartbreaking but but uplifting that 30 days without food or water in this darkness you know and they were able to rescue this uh poodle a poodle that's not a dog i would say oh that's a survivalist kind of dog it's a smaller poodle not the big poodles still like they're fru-frew dogs i was i was having a conversation with walter and soba yesterday after the show i was like you guys don't know how lucky you are when i was a kid There were rarely any inside dogs. Like, I didn't have a dog growing up, but my friends that did, most of them were outdoor dogs. Like, the dog was not allowed in the house at all. Yeah, there are, we had a farm dog. Yeah. It was a farm dog. And even, it rarely came in only when it got winter and it never left the kitchen. Oh, really? It knew, like, it just knew like, I'm an outside dog and this is the only space. So I had a conversation with Walter and so I'm like, you guys don't know how lucky you are. especially with it's always raining and beds and yeah oh my god we have so many beds and and i go to work this morning and walter the new uh doberman is sleeping in the smallest of all the beds the smallest of all the beds that's where he decided to uh to uh rest yeah that's uh all right i got to think about the dog insurance thing the pet insurance cut my life into

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9.53 on the Mark Am show. That's Last Resort by Papa Roach. Their lead singer Jacob Jacob Jacob. Jacoby Shattix turns 50. He's got a stage name I'm not going to say on the air, but I like this song. Thanks for pulling the clean version, Vinnie. 953 on the Mark Am show right now looking live at Dover Air Force Base, Armed Forces Body Bear Team, carrying. Senator Lindsey Graham's casket into the Capitol. All right, that's actually at the Capitol grounds. They just took it out of the Hearst flag-draped coffin. They're going to bring it up. Lindsey Graham, the senator's funeral, is going to kick off at 2 p.m. today. Two foreign heads of state will be attending, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Yahoo and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Both of those world leaders, though, are going to be meeting with President Trump before the 2 p.m. funeral. We will cover Senator Graham's funeral a little bit later this afternoon. afternoon here on 95-5.WSP. Speaking of the Lindsey Graham funeral, Washington saying goodbye. to South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. ABC's Jay O'Brien is there and says President Volodymyr Zelensky is going to attend the funeral. Graham was instrumental in just the final days of his life of pulling together the support in the Senate for sweeping Russian sanctions bill that the Senate is expected to take up as soon as today. That bill now bears Graham's name. Also in attendance here, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Graham, who was known for his hawkish foreign policy, was a fervent supporter of Israel and wars in Gaza and later... Iran and he long pushed the U.S. to take military action against the Iranian regime. I wonder if in honor of Graham's legacy that the Senate will finally, President Trump will give the okay to that Russia sanctions deal, because we heard from John Decker, White House correspondent earlier, the votes are there. There's 80 yay votes in the Senate, but President Trump has it signaled that they should go ahead and vote. Maybe to honor Graham, the Senate will pass that. 2 p.m. funeral for Senator Lindsey Graham. And as soon as, if there are any press availability, President Trump first meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky, we will bring it to you live here on the Mark Aram show. A quick update. We talked about the lettuce recall and all that stuff. Might not impact a lot of folks. This recall, though, could impact loyal listeners of the Mark Aram Show. It's a bacon recall, Deborah. Yeah, 12,000 pounds of been of bacon has been recalled from Maple Leaf Foods, which, of course, is a Canadian company that ports here to the United States. And this is the not the ready-to-eat smoked bacon. This is the other regular bacon that you would buy, but it's mostly in Idaho, Oregon, and Washington, so it might not affect us. Yeah. Idaho. Boise, Boise, Idaho. Vinny doesn't eat bacon. Debra, I've never seen you eat bacon. I haven't bought bacon in a long time because it's so expensive. Is it really expensive? Oh, gosh, yes. For me, it is anyway. I mean, I will, but I don't eat it a lot.

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If you do eat bacon, like when I get, if I go to Waffle House and get the All-Star Breakfast, I get bacon, but well done. I'm a well-done bacon. Oh, me too. It's got to be crispy. I can't have like the fatty, yeah. The chewy one. Yeah. I talked about last segment, you know, when I was a kid, every dog was an outdoor dog. And when I was a kid, there was not a single restaurant that offered bacon as an appetizer. And you go to restaurants now and bacon is an appetizer. And some really, it's like Charles Kinney engineer loves great dining. He'll often post pictures. That's like I don't get that as an appetizer at like a steakhouse. But they'll offer like FitCuck. thick cut bacon as an appetizer and they'll put it out on like this grand display and the strips are hanging down and it's like fat yeah that wasn't a thing you couldn't go to a restaurant in 1985 you couldn't go to ponderosa they're like can we get the bacon appetizer pork belly is another thing that was not a thing in restaurants pork belly i'm i'm talking i'm talking to tell her about restaurant items she's looking at me like like walter tilting your head like what are you talking about Anyway, all right, bacon recall. 12,000. What do they do with that? They just chuck it? You can't. You're supposed to chuck it or return it to the store. They'll give you a refund. Most people don't. Some people will just roll the dice. Is there a way to repurpose it? Use it as fertilizer or something? Bacon? Yeah. No idea. Get the grease and the oil. Yeah, something. Work on that, Vin. All right, news weather and traffic. Sabrina's got you covered. When we come back, we're going to check the markets. The oil prices are dropping, which is great. Stock markets are up and down. A lot of it has to do with AI. We're going to go in-depth. Big week for AI this week. We'll check in with Mike Duboskey from ABC News next on the Mark Am Show.