Fox News Sunday 07-26-2026
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135 segmentsThe following statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose tree cure or prevent any disease. The human brain is truly incredible. It surpasses supercomputers with over 100 billion neurons that control our thoughts, emotions, and movements. Previgen wants to keep it incredible. Powered by Apoaquin that was originally discovered in jellyfish, Previgen is designed specifically for the brain to help keep it amazing so you can continue doing what you love with confidence. Try Prevagen for your brain today. Go ahead. I'm Shane and Green. As the Iran conflict enters its sixth month, the president warns a massive attack on Iran could soon be launched. We're locked and loaded. We're locked and loaded and ready to go, but we're talking to them. The president considers his next move against Iran, while also pursuing a civilian nuclear deal with Saudi Arabia with one major condition attached. We'll continue to talk with our Saudi counterparts to get the deal finalized and hopefully see them joining Abraham Accords very soon. We'll get the latest from the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Mike Waltz, and... We didn't start this war. We did not, but we will finish it. We shouldn't be... shoving massive increases in dollars over to the Pentagon where they're in the middle of a war that is illegal. Congress splits over pushing back on the president's military authority. We'll talk with Senator Tim Kaine, a member of the Armed Services and Foreign Relations Committees. Then. Well, good morning, Maine Democrats, brothers and sisters. Democratic Socialists-backed Troy Jackson replaces Graham Platner on the ballot in Maine. We'll sit down with one of the national leaders of the DSA, Megan Romer, to discuss the movement's platform and place within the Democratic Party. All right now on Fox News Sunday.
For Fox News in Washington, we begin with a look at some of today's top stories. Raging wildfires are growing across regions of Spain and France this weekend. In southwest France, 55,000 people were forced to evacuate overnight as the flames move closer to Bordeaux. That brings the total to roughly 220,000 people fleeing fires in that region alone. And in Spain, some 116,000 people have been forced from their homes where fires are described as out of control. In Berlin, Germany, one person is dead, at least 16 others injured after a van rammed into a crowd near Berlin's Pride Festival Saturday. The hunt is on for the 21-year-old suspect. Police say he is known to them as a, quote, member of Islamic circles. And closer to home, 100 days out from the midterms, Maine Democrats have chosen a candidate to replace Graham Platner in their quest to retake the Senate majority in November. Former state lawmaker and logger, Troy Jackson, will face longtime Senator Susan Collins. We're going to take you live to Maine for a report a little bit later in the show. But first, a pause in U.S. strikes on Iran for a second night. In a moment, we'll bring in the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Mike Waltz, to discuss strategy there. But first, an update in Tel Aviv from Trey Yanks. Hello, Trey. Shannon, good morning. For now, the United States has halted strikes against Iran as tension remains high across the Middle East. The White House is making clear the military option remains on the table as President Trump considers solutions that are both using force and diplomacy. White House Communications Director Stephen Chung told Fox News Digital that President Trump has always been consistent in saying he prefers a diplomatic solution, but he continues to retain all options if Iran continues terrorist activity. in the strait of Hormuz or against allies. Chung went on to say, with successful sanctions that have crippled Iran's economy and 13 straight days of strikes against military targets in response to their repeated aggression, it would be wise for Iran to work towards a negotiated deal. Otherwise, they know what will happen. The U.S. naval blockade remains in effect as the economic pressure is being felt inside of Iran. The economic situation is much worse than in previous years. If we take inflation into account, it may have nearly doubled. Incomes have fallen and the value of our currency has declined. All of this has an impact and life has become a bit more difficult. With a focus on the Iranian economy and the Strait of Hormuz, there are questions about what comes next. After 13 straight nights of strikes that ended late last week, regional countries, including Israel, remain on high alert. Amid the ongoing U.S. military buildup with weapons and deployment of some additional service members, President Trump spoke Friday night from Washington about Iran.
We don't want to see Washington, D.C. or any of our cities or Israel or, frankly, the Middle East destroyed with a nuclear weapon because I know the power of nuclear weapons. I see it. I get to see it. Iranian officials have remained largely quiet this weekend as efforts are underway behind the scenes to reach a deal. Shannon? All right, Trey Yanks, reporting from Tel Aviv. Thank you, Trey. We'll check in with you again a little bit later in the hour. Joining us now, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Mike Waltz. Great to have you back, Ambassador. Good to be with you. So we're going to pause in these nightly strikes we have been doing with respect to Iran. The New York Times reporting this weekend, it's about us worrying about the stockpile of what we have with anti-missile response systems and other things there in the Middle East. Is it about that? Is it about that we're talking with them diplomatically? Again, a lot of critics of that process. And what's the timeline for deciding whether we resume? Well, Shannon, it shouldn't surprise you the New York Times is off base. As the president said, we are locked and loaded. Even more assets are going into theater. But he's giving talk some space. He's giving it a little bit of room. We've had both Imam and Iran and a number of our other negotiators engaged at every level, from the most senior levels all the way down to the technical level over. the past few weeks and particularly in the past few days. So you know, there are a lot of folks who say it's a senseless mission. We can never trust the Iranians. Why continue talking with them? The only thing that they really respond to is this brute military force. Matthew Contennetti, writing over at the Wall Street Journal says, if he wants to win this war, Mr. Trump must deliver crippling blows to Iran's government. That means rejecting proportionality. It means expanding targets to include highways, bridges, factories, and other infrastructure that sustains the IRGC war machine. Not one a day, but all at once. Is that coming? Well, remember, the IRGC controls 40 to 50% of the Iranian economy. What you've seen in the last 13 days or strikes particularly focused on Iran's terrorist activities attacking civilian shipping, ships from Singapore, Cyprus, all over the world that have done nothing to Iran that's been condemned in the United Nations. You hear a lot about our allies and countries not being with us, a record 140. have stood with us in condemning those activities. Shannon, you know, you have to ask yourself, is a country winning that has little speedboats running around? I mean, these are like, I don't know, the Somali pirates with cruise missiles and drones. These are acts of desperation. The Iranian regime is isolated, economically devastated, militarily devastated. And I really appreciated the clip that you just played talking about the suffering that is going on internally. Inflation is spiking. The currency is tanking. Foreign currency reserves are gone. And we're starting to see the Iranian government even not be able to pay its own workers.
and even its own military. You mentioned our allies and who is and isn't involved in this process. There's reporting that the U.S. and U.K. are going to meet next week in London to talk about an international, potentially, coalition to deal with what's going on in the straight. You talk about, you know, little speedboats and things, but if they can give the optics that they somehow can still damage and control traffic there, it's hard to, you know, get all the commercial traffic back there and convince that they'll be safe. So go ahead and respond on that. But to that point, I mean, you know, taking a step outward, The Iranians' leverage, this regime's leverage over the Straits of Ormuz, will drastically diminish over time. The Iraqi... Prime Minister just signed a deal with Syria, was just here and signed a deal with a number of our oil and gas companies in Houston. You are going to see pipelines being built all over the Middle East. Some are estimating 14 to 15 million barrels a day will be moving by pipeline and no longer by the Straits of Ormuz just over the next year. So they have made a fantastic and historic mistake by what they've done. But in the meantime, in the very near me meantime, we have taken that leverage off the table. by degrading and destroying their military architecture, the sensors, the radars, the observation posts, the missiles and drones that have been used to attack these ships. So with respect to this possible U.S. UK meeting next week about the straits. Yesterday, Iran's Revolutionary Guard spokesperson said Britain would, quote, be a definite and legitimate target if it supports the U.S. in the war in any way. So what are discussions like with our allies? How willing are they to get involved at this point? Because President was pretty tough on many of them early on saying. weren't there for us. Well, they've been with us diplomatically. I mentioned, you know, the isolation that Iran is feeling, and they really care about this because the UN is their only voice on the world stage. They're diplomatically isolated. Our allies have come with us on snapback sanctions, so they've joined us in that maximum pressure. And now, you know, we've been frustrated. You've heard the president. president's frustration in terms of frankly the lack of capability that the allies have to contribute. But what they can contribute is basing. And this new British government, new prime minister that just came in, has allowed his basing for bombers. And that's made a heck of a difference. Okay. So back to where we started. The president had said just days ago he was prepared for a massive attack on Iran. We've got to pause right now. What would that mean? different than what we have seen in the past. Anything that would involve boots on the ground? And what is the president's assessment of when we're finally done with diplomacy? Well, he has a number of escalation options, whether that is infrastructure, power, that is powering the IRGC and their war economy. And I won't take any options off the table here for the president. But I can tell you, and I just spoke with our great Secretary Pete Hegseth,
All of those options are on the table. We have everything we need to conduct this campaign. And this is because of the investments President Trump made right out the gate in our military. We inherited a difficult situation with many of our munitions having been given over in Ukraine. A lot of them expended in the Houthis. But we are rebuilding with cheaper, faster, more technologically capable as we are conducting this campaign. And so there should be no doubt that the military has what its need. and is moving even more assets into the region? I want to ask you, too, about the Saudi nuke deal that is coming together. There are still more steps there to be congressional approval and all kinds of things. But National Review is one of those who is sounding some red flags about this. They say it's an authoritarian regime with plenty of ominous domestic challenges in a lively culture of Islamist radicalism. In the event of a shakeup inside the kingdom, the U.S. could have, would have less control over the capabilities. It's exporting to Saudi Arabia than it envisions. And there's also this hearkening back to then-Senator, now Secretary Marco Rubio. in 2018 after the death of Jamal Khashoggi saying there's real concern that if a government is willing to murder a U.S. green card holder in a third country in a diplomatic facility, I think there's a legitimate question over whether such a government could be trusted with nuclear energy and the potential weaponization of it. What do you say to those who are very worried about what I'd ask them is would they rather countries buy? Chinese-made nuclear power plants or Russian-made nuclear power plants like countries have been doing for decades. President Trump has reinvigorated nuclear power, not just here, but have the technology in small modular reactors, micro-reactors, even the traditional larger ones to go abroad. We are not exporting. We are not exporting enrichment capability to the Saudis. These are civilian nuclear power plants as the Saudis look to diversify. But the difference is they've signed up for full inspections. There is no enrichment. And the president's made it clear this needs to be part of the broader Abraham Accords, which he's been talking about since his first term. Compare that with what's going on in Iran, where they're burying capability hundreds of miles under granite, the largest state sponsor of terrorism. kicking out the inspectors and not allowing the IAEA to come in, which the UAE, United Arab Emirates, the Saudis have agreed to, UAE's letting them in, Saudis, of course, would let them in. This is about civilian nuclear power. Very different than Iran's obsession with a nuclear weapon. Yeah, and we know many more steps to go, as we said. Ambassador, always good to have you in. Thank you for coming in.
So when we come back, he is the Senate Democrat leading the effort to stop the president strikes on Iran. Virginia Senator Tim Kaine joins us live next. With Instagram teen accounts, protections are turned on by default. Yo, look at this real. Okay, the secret is. Built in content settings limit what teens can see. Messages from strangers just don't show up. And automatic nudges tell them when it's time to get off their phone. Mom, dad, heading out back. Sometimes the best way to think about safety is to not have to think about it at all. Instagram teen accounts. Nothing to turn on, safer from the start. This entire situation is unacceptable. I think this governor is saying this because she realizes this administration is serious about getting to the bottom of illegal aliens voting and being on our voter rolls in our country. New Jersey's governor revealing a software glitch led to thousands of non-citizens being registered to vote and that hundreds of them did. It's only added fuel to the president's calls for passing to Save America Act currently stalled out in the Senate and with just days until it recessed. The Senate has a lot of heavy lifting to do on a number of fronts. Joining me now, Democrat Tim Kaine, who sits on both the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and Armed Services. Senator, welcome back. Glad to be with you, Shannon. Thanks. Okay, so let's start there. The Wall Street Journal editorial board after this report this week says New Jersey's screw up is another reminder that illegal voting isn't a myth and vigilance is important. I know in the Commonwealth because I voted there many times, Virginia has voter ID. Is that something we should be discussing for everyone? You know, and New Jersey has voter ID as well, Shannon, and this was a very unfortunate glitch. Importantly, it wasn't that individuals were trying to vote illegally. There was a computer glitch that when they registered for driver's licenses and said they were non-citizens. The glitch got them mistakenly classified as citizens and registered them to vote. At about 400 did vote in the 4 million New Jersey residents who voted in 2024. I think the right answer here is voter ID law is passed at the state level. As you know, Virginia has a voter ID law that's sort of been acceptable whether governors or Democrats or Republicans. It's worked. My Virginians are not telling me we need to have a one-size-fits-all voter ID requirement for the entire nation. They think we're doing it right in Virginia, and I think most every state has a voter ID law, and that's something we can leave to state legislatures.
So just days before Governor Cheryl came forward and said, hey, this is the problem. This is what happened here. DHS Secretary Mullen had sent a letter saying that a preliminary review showed there could be more than 35,000 non-citizens potentially that were on the rolls in New Jersey. Now, she said she will not share information with the feds, but couldn't this be cleared up if she would be willing to do that? Well, I do think sharing information is important, but the weaponization of information is a real challenge. So, for example, the DOJ was trying to get voter rolls from Virginia for reasons that were very unclear. And so our Attorney General went to federal court and tried to block them, and we were successful. Let's make sure if information is going to be shared that we understand how it's going to be used. But I do think a number of states and a number of federal courts have found that you can't just willy-nilly grab people's voting records and voting information when the purpose about how you're going to use them is unclear. Well, with the DOJ reaching out to New Jersey saying, listen, you've told us about 400 people did actually vote illegally. That is a federal offense. Why not share that information with the feds? Do you think it's a crime that shouldn't be prosecuted? No, look, if anybody votes illegally, and usually in a case like this, there has to be a knowing illegality, yeah, they ought to be prosecuted. You know, we have a president who tried to strong arm the Georgia's Secretary of State find me another 11,000 votes in 2020 so I can win the election. If there's fraud, it ought to be prosecuted. And I'm not against sharing information, not by a long shot, so long as it's clear how the information is going to be used. If it's going to be used in a good way, it's great, it should be shared. But if there are doubts about how information is going to be used, this is people's personal information. voting record, how often I vote, you know, do I vote in primaries or general elections? I think every voter... would want to have some confidence that that information was not going to be shared in ways that would be used for bad purposes. Okay. I want to turn to something else that's playing out during this primary season, which is the Democratic Socialists of America showing up in a lot of Democratic primaries having great success. There's this conversation about whether you have a big enough tent that they should be actually within the tent. The Atlantic, though, has this headline saying the DSA is a parasite. They add, if the Democrats want to root out the party within their party, they will need to stop indulging the D. DSA's constant passive aggressive attempts to undermine them. This would require prohibiting DSA members from joining their party and throwing out the DSA members already honeycombed within it. Do you think they have a space within your party?
I do think the Democratic Party has always been known, and mostly this is good. Sometimes it's not as a big tent. And so I don't think that somebody says I'm a DSA candidate. I don't think you should use that to throw them out. Why would you do that? Candidates have to rise and fall on their own merits. And so, you know, whether you're a DSA member or a third-way Democrat or, you know, I just call myself a small D Democrat, people have to put their platform before voters and try to be responsive to voters. and voters get to judge them. But to have a litmus test that if somebody says, hey, I'm a DSA member, you know, they can't be part of the party. I strongly disagree with that. But when you look at their platform, things like abolishing the Senate, where you currently serve the Supreme Court, the presidency, abolishing borders and ICE and government takeover of businesses, I mean, is that something that can fit consistently within the Democratic platform? Many of those pieces know. But for example, the DSA is not huge in Virginia, and I'm an expert on one state's politics. Many DSA members, I know they don't want to abolish the Senate. They don't want to abolish the presidency. They want reforms of ICE, but they recognize that there need to be effective border policies. So just like if you say somebody's a Democrat, you can't assume you know every position that they hold or somebody's a Republican. assume you know every position that they hold. I think there's a lot of flavors within the DSA, just as there are within Democratic Party. And that's why it's up to individual candidates to stand on their own, answer questions honestly about where they are, and then voters can choose. In Virginia, you know, I think we've got a pretty good track record in my time in politics. We've gone from a state that was essentially completely red in 2001 to one that is now more blue than red. We're still battleground. We still have to fight hard to win elections, but we've done it by being pro-growth progress by emphasizing economic progress. Virginia was just named one of the best three states for business in the country with Democratic legislature and Democratic governor. So we've got a democratic message that works here, but that message does not involve pushing people away. It means trying to embrace as many people as we can. Well, we're going to continue that conversation and find out exactly what the DSA does want. Senator Kane, thank you very much. Absolutely. Great to be with you, Shannon. All right. Just 100 days to the midterms, and Democratic Socialists are making their mark in primary contests across the country. The national co-chair of the Democratic Socialists of America, Megan Romer, is going to join us next to talk about the DSA's platform and pushback from some inside the Democrat Party. And then Maine Democrats have settled on replacement, one to take GOP Senator Susan Collins on head on in the fall. We're going to get a live report from Thangor, Maine. Coming up.
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The establishment Democrats should be worried about the voters and about what the voters think and about what the constituency thinks. And right now they have not been delivering and our candidates are and have been. And it's resonating with voters. So Jimmy Harrison, who was the DNC chair, after you guys had such a big night in New York City and knocking off some of those incumbents and having success with your candidates in the congressional primaries, he said if you hate the Democrat. Democratic Party, then don't run for our nomination. Don't use our resources. Don't rely on our volunteers. Don't use our infrastructure. Focus on building the party you actually support. Other Democrats out there saying this is a separate party, the DSA, you don't belong within the party. How do you respond to his statements there? Yeah, I mean, the two parties have over years and decades created a system where ballot line access is extremely difficult for third parties. I also have been told a lot of times by Democrats, don't vote third party. It's wasting your vote. So we run on the Democratic ballot line where it makes sense. We run independence sometimes where that is a viable possibility. It's a ballot line. And what matters is what the voters think. And the voters are overwhelmingly choosing our candidates. They certainly did in New York and in other place, Colorado and others, it's not just a big city phenomenon or just a blue coastal phenomenon. Okay, so we're going to put up on the screen a few of the things that are part of your platform. And I want to ask you, just give me sort of a true or false on these. Abolish the Senate. True. Okay. Replace the presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them. Yep. Abolish ICE. Absolutely. Abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the U.S. illegally. As a long-term plan, yep. Defund the Pentagon. Absolutely. Abolish prisons, at least in large part. Yeah, again, as part of a long-term program, yeah. Okay, so no prisons. Government or public ownership of most large corporations. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, so then let's go back through some of those then. Abolish the Senate. There are people who are in the Senate now who are very supportive of DSA. They lose their seats? Well. The Senate is an anachronistic institution. It comes from the British House of Lords. It is made to protect power for, you know, the Senate was part of the system that was made to make sure that the people didn't have too much of a say. So we want to expand Congress significantly, but make it a unicameral legislature. Okay, and without the presidency and Supreme Court, so abolish ICE, would there be any enforcement of immigration laws or with abolishing the border? we're not enforcing immigration laws they go away. Yeah, so again, this is part of this longer-term plan. And part of it includes, think.
Yeah, I mean, if we can get to the place where the U.S. is not destabilizing countries in order to mine them for resources, there will be significantly less migration. What do you say to those, though, that that would potentially destabilize the U.S.? Because there's only so much the economy can bear. And when you have a flood of people coming in, it might not work out economically. According to a lot of analyses, if you just open up the borders and there's no enforcement at all. Well, we're not saying open the borders tomorrow. We're saying rebuild an economy in a society that works for everyone. And the open borders is part of a longer-term international plan that involves us stopping destabilizing countries. Most people who are coming to this country are coming as economic refugees, and we destabilized their country. We did that. Well, a lot of, you know, if you look at data, the Center for Immigration Studies says right now the people, the households here in the U.S. that are headed up by people who are here illegally, nearly 61% of them are on some type of government or welfare program here in the U.S. can we afford to do that? I mean, at some point, you run out of resources. Well, right now we make it very difficult for people to participate in society in such a way that they can avoid using services. So we want people to be able to work and live and go to school and actually participate, which means contributing to society and also getting what they need from society. It's a collective choice we can all make. So if we talk about abolishing prisons then, does that make society better? I mean... Is there anybody that should be incarcerated? I mean, rapist, child predators, murderers? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so the long-term plan, when we think about most people who are in prison, they are mostly in prison for crimes of poverty. So when we... But that's no one I'm talking about. I'm talking about the really, you know, like the murders and rapists of the rights. When we... Yeah, so when we get rid of this need for crimes of poverty to exist, when we get rid of that destabilizing force that creates so many people who are living in desperate situations and doing desperate things, that brings those numbers down to very small numbers. And then we can collectively decide what we do with those people. I suspect it won't look like the prison system as we know it today. Okay, but you do think some people need to be locked away from society. Some people are not able to be functional members of society. That's true. But what does that look like to keep the rest of us safe? You know, we're talking about safety. We're not talking about punishment. We're talking about making sure that we're safe.
Everybody's safe. Everybody maintains their dignity, and everybody maintains their humanity. Okay. So much more to discuss. I hope that you will come back, especially as we figure out what the party does with respect to you, meaning the Democrat Party, in your role in it, and in 2028 especially. Megan Farmer, thank you. Thank you so much for having me. It's been a pleasure. Okay. Well, with the midterms just 100 days away, the stage is now set in Maine, where hundreds of Democrat delegates have settled on a replacement for scandal-played Graham Platner as they hope to unseat incumbent Senator Susan Collins. Fox News correspondent Alexis McAdams has the very latest from Bangor, Maine, where she joins us live. Hello, Alexis. Hi, Shannon, that's right, and we're keeping a close eye on everything happening on the ground in the state of Maine. Some voters tell us they're not even sure if they want to show up next time around after Graham Platner was pushed out, and Troy Jackson is now in the race. 100 days until the midterm election and Maine's Democratic Party leadership picking a new candidate. 566 votes for Troy Jackson. One time, State Senate President Troy Jackson will challenge longtime incumbent Republican Senator Susan Collins. I will fight to restore abortion rights nationwide. Stand shoulder to shoulder with our LGBTQ manners. This, after Graham Platner went from Democratic Rising Star to out of the race, Graham Platner had already won the Democratic primary, now his replacement, picked by party delegates, not voters. Some mayors tell us the process reminds them of the Democrats' 2024 switch from President Biden to Kamala Harris. You can't switch horses midstream and expect to come out a winner. We put in the work for the democracy we deserve. Early voting also underway in Michigan, Democrats choosing between progressive Abdul El-Sayed and four-time Congresswoman Haley Stevens, who this week received the endorsement of Governor Gretchen Whitmer. This is a battle, if you will, for the future of the Democratic Party. If he wins in November, it gives a big boost to the Democratic Socialist movement. If he loses, it will be a commentary on how the far left of the Democratic Party is unable to win in battleground states and general elections. And Shannon, 100 days to go until Election Day here in the state of Maine. And voters tell me they do not want any more surprises. We asked Troy Jackson about that. Is anything going to come out about his past? He says he's been fully vetted and tested. Now all eyes are on Battleground Michigan. President Trump will be there on Monday for a rally to get voters excited for the midterm elections in that very hotly contested Senate race. Shannon? All right. Alexis McAdams reporting from Bangor, Maine. Thank you very much. Time now for our Sunday group. Politico playbook co-author, Dasha Burns, the Federalist editor-in-chief Molly Hemingway. Boxing, senior political analyst Juan Williams, and editor-in-chief of the Jewish insider, Josh Krasher. Panel, welcome to all of you, and we're going to try to get to those races, but you guys seem a little shell-shocked by what Megan Romer had to say. Juan, does she fit within your party? She does. I mean, the fact is it's a moment. So abolishing ice and borders and prisons and all of that. Well, I'm telling you, you pointed out, Shannon rightly.
DSA candidates are winning and they're winning. So it's about winning, even if you don't, some of their stuff is not palatable to you. That's right. I mean, I think that you have to understand voters. I mean, it's not my choice. It's the voter's choice. And these are voters who are voting in Democratic primaries. There's tremendous frustration with Democrats in Washington right now in that they're not doing a better job in the voters' eyes to fight against President Trump. And what they see is his autocracy and his extremism. And they don't care that the Republicans control the House, the Senate, and the White House. I mean, voters just want to see action, and they see it. in terms of these DSA proposals as, you know, strong and radical. And, you know, the fact is, I think the Republicans, especially as we approach to the midterms, would love to have the DSA and some of these radical proposals as the face of the Democratic Party to scare voters. But in fact, what voters are scared of, and we see this in the latest Fox polls, is President Trump. I mean, it's something like, you know, 39% approval of Trump. So he's very unpopular, way underwater. 80% of Democrats want substantial or revolutionary change, according to the Fox poll. And 68% of Republicans want substantial change. So there's frustration nationwide among voters. with the system as it is not delivering. And I think you see that in some of these wild proposals. Well, Molly, do you think that that's, we're being told, listen to the voters. Do you think that's mainstream, though, because Third Way put out a memo a couple of days ago, warning Democrats looking to 2028 saying they don't, like the average voter where you got to get, Middle America, does not want this lurch to the left. Well, there are two ways that you can approach this. One is the issues themselves, and one is how you present them. So I commend Megan Ramos for answering honestly how radicals. the agenda of her DSA is. removal of any borders, destruction of rule of law, even that the main Senate candidate for the Democratic Party said he openly embraces the radical trans agenda. These are ways of being very honest and open about the positions. The way the Democratic Party has succeeded previously is by fully embracing those positions, but claiming to be more moderate. You saw that with Barack Obama. You definitely saw it with Joe Biden. But nothing that the DSA person said just now was any more radical on borders. than what we had under President Joe Biden. So I think the issue is that the Democratic Party would like to present as moderate while retaining these radical policies that the voters are saying, that the Democratic voters are saying, we'd like to just be more honest about how radical these are. All right. Well, Dachan, I want to get to somebody that you talked to in one of these races that Alexis just touched on. This is Michigan. Now, Abdullah S.A. There says he's not formally DSA, but he's had some connections with them. But Washington Examiner says this.
El-Sayed victory against Rogers, meaning Mike Rogers would be a seismic development in American politics. Establishment Democrats would quickly become an endangered species, at least the ones who don't, quote, evolve and become socialist themselves in the name of holding on to power. You did a deep dive with him. I did. And he sharply rejected the label of Democratic socialism. But when I pressed him on what are the issues that he disagrees with when it comes to the DSA platform or Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez with whom he's canceled. He just said the socialism part and wasn't able to get into some of those policies. But the thing about candidates like El-Sayed is they are filling a void that the Democratic Party has had really through the Trump years. There has not been a message. There has not been a messenger. And even if people don't agree with the policies and the platform, for so many voters, you saw this with Trump, it is about vibes. And to see someone like El-Sayed who is relentless in his messaging, I don't know. how many times in our interview he talked about getting money out of politics, he's relentless about it. And Democrats are really looking for that. I think the winning piece that you and Juan just talked about is critical and you have to distinguish. winning in a primary versus winning in a general. And it is that Michigan is such a test over the future of the Democratic Party because if he wins the primary, that's one thing. If he wins a general election in Michigan, such a critical state for the presidential, that changes things. If he loses, though, I think the win gets knocked out of the sales here. Josh, you went to school with his primary opponent, Haley Stevens' current congressman. Yeah, I mean, look, this is a battle. Spot on. Energy versus electability. The energy, I talked to two Democratic strategists who are involved in a lot of these big races across the country. And they now say that the Bernie wing of the party, the socialist wing of the party, now is about a third of the Democratic electorate. If you get the Bernie endorsement, if you get all these progressives, you get about a third of that Democratic vote. Not enough to win, but that's a huge number. And the worry, though, from the same Democratic strategists is what wins the primary in swing states and swing districts, as Dasher was saying, can lose you. Swing Michigan could be in jeopardy if Democrats nominate El Cyan. And they're worried about Minnesota and Maine with Troy Jackson. So all of these DSA candidates, they have the energy in these very deep blue districts. But, boy, Democrats are panicked that these swing states and swing districts could be in jeopardy if you nominate these. And I think the big news this week was the governor endorsing Haley Stevens. So she sees a risk for the Democratic community. But also interesting, Senator Tim Kaine absolutely terrified to speak out against DSA. It's hard for Democrats to figure that out. And Abdul El-Sayed says it's Chuck Schumer who doesn't want to win and end up in the Senate. So a lot for the party to work out. All right. We've got another hot topic for you panel. Don't go far. New Jersey's governor admits more than 6,000.
non-citizens were registered to vote. Hundreds of them did. Now, the DOJ is demanding the governor turn over that information on those voters so they can be prosecuted, and she says no way. Choice hotels get you more of what you value. Here's a little tune to help you remember. Same drive, different day. Don't you wish you were getting away? Pack your bags and come on through. Texas, Ohio, Alaska, we're up there too. Comfort in. It's calling your name. Save on the stay. Oh, and free waffles are yours to claim. Well, I hope you like my little song. Book direct at storeshiltails.com. We absolutely need to have accountability for what happened. It was just horrible. That's Democrat Senator Andy Kim of New Jersey, talking about the discovery of more than 6,000 non-citizens on his state's voter rolls, along with the revelation that somewhere around 400 of them actually cast ballots. We are back now with our panel. And it turns out that shortly before Governor Cheryl came forward with this information, DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin, the Wall Street Journal reports, said in a letter to New Jersey officials that a preliminary review found that as many as 35,152 non-citizens could be registered to vote in their state, Josh. Yeah, look, it's an example that human error happens. It's pretty egregious. 6,600 non-citizens on the rolls. 400, I think, voted in the local elections. That's why Republicans make the case for voter ID and a lot of these restrictions. That said, I don't think this is a widespread problem. It was... But I think that this is the argument that gives political fuel for the Republican case for voter ID. One thing about the SAVE Act, and that's the stalemate going on in Congress now, one thing I think that's holding Republicans back is Republicans have always made the case that localities and states should run the elections. This is an example of New Jersey really botching their election process. But Republicans have always been very wary, privately at least, to... prevent for federal oversight of elections. And I think that's one of the roadblocks for getting a major piece of federal legislation passed. Well, at the same time, there have been a lot of federal protections of voting. We have millions of people who vote from overseas. There are people who vote in federal only elections. And then there's the issue of non-citizen voting. And yes, it's possible that Mikie Sherrill just opened the kimono and said, you know, it's only 6,600 people. But you need to have some kind of audit to know whether she's telling the truth. She wasn't answering questions from my publication, the federalist, about... what party registration these people had, or just any level of detail whatsoever. And there needs to be protection of elections because people need to trust elections in order to have a civil society. You want to have elections where the results are determined.
quickly where people have trust in the process. And so obviously, this is a big issue. Obviously, voter ID is what, like an 85% issue? It's going to happen. It's kind of weird how difficult it is to make it happen right now. Well, so we have a spokesperson for the DOJ saying this. The civil rights division is investigating this situation and will keep pressing states to clean their roles. The department is prosecuting cases where the law and evidence supported. But Dasha, Governor Schell says we're not going to turn over the information. Look. This is really much less a fight at this point about voter ID and election integrity. I think a lot of people do agree that, of course, our elections need to be secure. It's much more a fight over... federal versus state control of this. And look, our election system is very decentralized. I have had to bounce around different election offices and learned completely new rules depending on what state I was in, sometimes depending on what county I was in. This is how our system works. And that makes this fight a lot more challenging. And the practical implementation of some of these changes that people want to see at the federal level, more challenging locally because a lot of these elections offices are already understaffed, underfunded. It's hard to get election workers. And so when I talk to folks at the local level that care less about the politics of it, they say help fund the election infrastructure. Okay, so one, if there is a problem, should the feds and the states coordinate on these databases to make sure that they're getting cleaned up? No. Again, Americans like the idea that the states control. elections. And in fact, that's what our Constitution says. It's not the idea that any one person or any national government control. It's local. It's you and me and our elected representatives doing this. And you see this in the Fox poll that came out this week. 68% of Americans across party lines, by the way, say that states should handle elections, not the federal government. Look, I think we're on this issue, and I think the president is obsessed with this issue because he knows that the Republicans look right now. Now, here we are in late July, like they're going to get hammered in the midterms. And he wants to introduce distrust in the election system for that reason. He wants to be able to say, you know, on, was it November 4th of the day after the elections, oh, you can't trust those elections. They shouldn't have happened. But, you know, you look at New Jersey. And, you know, that wasn't MAGA. That wasn't Antifa. That wasn't DSA. That wasn't Tea Party. That wasn't Democrats or Republicans. That was a computer that made a mistake. 400 people, it's not even a fraction of a percentage. It had no impact on the election. But it's being elevated because of Trump's obsession with this issue, which, by the way, Even Republicans in the Senate don't buy into the SAVE Act. First of all, New Jersey has actually had quite a few problems with election integrity. They've even had to rehold elections in certain municipalities due to ballot stuffing, like in Patterson, New Jersey. There have been criminal charges related to it. But the reason why you want to have secure election systems is so that bad actors won't take advantage of a system. When you have mass mail-out ballots, low or no voter identification, it makes it easy for people to manipulate it. And there's also the issue.
where it yes it's a state and local issue but also we have what 1.5 million Chinese nationals who are eligible to vote in the United States and that's even more so the case following the birthplace citizenship ruling. So there are federal issues in play and state issues in play. And this should not be a partisan issue. Everyone should care about election integrity so that we can have safe, secure elections we can all trust. Well, and it's a message the president keeps hammering home, but it's his own party in the Senate that, you know, they can't figure out how to get this done. And part of that I think is because this is beyond voter ID. What the president wants has a lot of other things attached to it. So we'll see where they progress. But he has let his frustrations with the Senate fill out publicly. We know they've been going on. privately for a while, but Punchbowl says this on Wednesday. As he finds himself increasingly at odds with Trump, John Thune is looking out for his Senate majority, not Trump's. whims. And Dasha, I mean, he wants to save his members from taking difficult votes on some of these issues. Yeah, I've been reporting on this Trump-John Thune tension for weeks now. It's been simmering behind the scenes. And I was pretty surprised, actually, to see it spill out into the open this week when Karoline Leavitt in that briefing said that the president's patience is running out with John Thune. Look, these two men could not be more different in the way that they govern in their styles and their approaches. And John Thune sees the panic for Republicans in the midterms right now. and wants to give them that cover. And he's willing to throw himself on the line. The point that he made this week, though, in response to Carolina, is, hey, if you guys really want this, you need to get in there and start whipping some of these votes and getting people on board with this. Because right now, I mean, even if John Thune was gung-ho on this, he just doesn't have the votes without nuking the filibuster. And again, he's looking out for future Republican-controlled or Democrat-controlled Congress Senate. that the way to get Republicans to come out and vote is by doing literally anything and the SAVE Act being a really good example of that. Okay. That is not going to bear it well for him in the future. I got to leave it there because panel will see you next week. We're going to go back to the Middle East trade yanks with some breaking details on the conflict in Iran. Next. When it's time to scale your business, it's time for Shopify. Get everything you need to grow the way you want. Like all the way. Stack more sales with the best converting checkout on the planet. Track your cha-chings from every channel, right in one spot, and turn real-time reporting into big-time opportunities. Take your business to a whole new level. Switch to Shopify. Start your free trial today.
Air strikes in the Middle East have paused, but the conflict in Iran continues for the very latest. We go back to Trey Yankst and Tel Avivant, Trey. How does this feel in the region right now, this pause with everything still being left on the table for the president as far as options? Yeah, Shannon, good morning. We've seen two straight days of no U.S. strikes against Iran, but there is a large question about what comes next. The military buildup of U.S. forces continues to give President Trump a variety of options, while the Iranians say just in the last hour that there is some progress being made in the talks with Omani officials to try and reach a deal to open the Strait of Hormuz. Well, let's talk about that, too, because activity continues there, and there are a lot of folks getting involved. Absolutely. You have both the Pakistani mediators and the Qatari mediators trying to push forward a deal that would ultimately de-escalate tension across the region. But given the fact that the memorandum of understanding wasn't respected by the Iranians, and it was violated. According to President Trump, there is this possibility that the region heads toward a broader conflict in the days ahead. And that's part of the reason that you see U.S. allies like Israel preparing for the possibility of a return to conflict. What do you make of the president's meeting this week with Benjamin Netanyahu? What do you think we should watch? watch for. It's very significant. And we know that the Israeli prime minister has a variety of asks for President Trump when it comes to air defense systems and support. But the Israelis have been very clear. They are prepared to resume their air campaign against Iran if the Iranians attack Israel or if President Trump requests help. Shannon. We will watch that White House meeting very closely. Trey, we know you will as well. Thank you so much. That is it for us today. Thanks for joining us. I'm
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