Pentagon running out of money, weapons: report

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Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes. Donald Trump's war with Iran has been disastrous from the beginning, misbegotten ill-conceived, and is now reaching a new, much more dangerous face. And today we learn something truly shocking, something you almost never hear, and it's this. The Pentagon is running out of money. Yes, the best-funded military in the history of human civilization is almost broke. Remember, Congress funds the Department of Defense at increasingly higher levels every year, reaching nearly a trillion dollars, $884 billion just last year, and the Trump administration wants way more. It is the agency with the largest discretionary spending by far. Nothing in the government really comes close. Think of it this way. The U.S. military running out of money is as improbable as, say, losing money when you run a casino. It just shouldn't be possible. But somehow, the guy who failed at running a casino, Donald Trump, and these strategic geniuses, he's chosen to lead our national defense, have brought us to this point. And things are looking pretty dire right now. Our strategic petroleum reserves, basically our emergency stockpiles of crude oil, are at the lowest level since 1983, which is saying something because remember the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, we had to use the SPR, but it's even lower than that, down to 1983. And that's in part because the Trump administration began releasing reserves in an attempt to blunt the cost spike brought about by the war's supply disruptions. Also, our stockpile of missile interceptors, those are the ones that go up to stop incoming missiles directed at American or Israeli targets, are so low they cannot stop incoming Iranian ballistic missiles that are, as we've seen over the past three or four days, killing and injuring American troops, according to Al Jazeera. The U.S. held about 2,300 Patriot missile interceptors in stock before the war, but as many as 1,400 have been used. That's not a war we didn't need to start. It's about half the entire stockpile. And that's just one type of missile. Stockpires are low all around. Quote, replenishing high capability and costly weapons like the ones the U.S. is used in Iran will likely take several years. So we are running very low on petroleum reserves. We are running low on interceptors. Again, those are pretty important for defending the positions of American service members serving in bases and the like. And on top of that, the Department of Defense is running out of money. Washington Post reporting, to bridge the gap until the 2027 fiscal year begins on October 1st, the Pentagon is already moving money around. Military exercises and trainings that help keep units prepared for combat are being limited or canceled, according to current and former officials. And the budget for equipment and facility and maintenance is also being drained to cover the shortfalls. Now, this is happening as Trump has over the last week or so restarted the war and things continue to escalate.

On Saturday, Iranian state media reported the U.S. hit critical infrastructure, including an electricity and water desalination plant and tunnels and bridges. That impacts the water supply for about 10,000 people. Kuwait says Iran also struck its power and water desalization plant, leading their energy ministry to urge people to ration power during peak hours. Today, Iran attacked a tanker in the Strait of Hormuz, forcing the crew to abandon ship. That is at least the third attack on a ship in just the last two days. Meanwhile, as we saw last night as developing today, there's a new front in the war. The Houthi rebel group in Yemen declared that they were going to begin a blockade of the Red Sea Bob El Mandeb Strait. That's where Saudi-linked shipping goes through. Well, today we got reporting that at least two tankers that were full of Saudi crude oil bound for China and India, they were trying to head down and east, were forced to turn around and instead head north and west for the Suez Canal. So as the war expands with Trump spouting his wild threats that no one even believes anymore, they sound ridiculous and pathetic, honestly. Former Fox Weekend host turned Secretary of Defense. Pete Hegseth was up on Capitol Hill today with more of the same. His empty boast and his lies about how the U.S. is winning this war, nuclear objective, all while trying to pry billions more for those apparently empty coffers. You are asking for unlimited money for bombs when people can't feed their families. And I don't know how this administration intends to defend those decisions to the American people. Not unlimited bombs, Senator. I'm asking for the right bombs at the right time to ensure we can deter our adversaries into the future. And that's why this is a generational investment. And it was the previous administration that didn't fund this department. The reason why they are so upset with you and this administration is because the words you have used in the past don't add up. So just to review, you will not answer whether your statement made on the 14th day of the war that Iran's military had been, quote, destroyed and made. combat ineffective was a truthful statement to the American people as you sit here and ask for tens of billions more. The senator's time has... That's historic and effective military campaign against the largest state sponsor of terrorism. Won't answer the question. When most people think of winning the war, they think that that means the war is going to come to an end because we've won. And the president said back in March that we'd won. So I guess my question to you is... How are we going to define winning? Reopening the Strait of Hormuz is necessary in order for us to win, right? That's just a simple yes or no question. You asked me what the overarching objective is, and I would say ensuring Iran never has a nuclear weapon. You, sir, are the failure. Not the men and women who are on that front line. You don't have a strategy. You don't have a long-term plan to actually win this war. Win the war. The men and women are going to be able to do it, but they need to have leadership. When will you show leadership? Of course we have leadership. Senator Chris Van Hollen, Democrat of Maryland serves on the Appropriations Committee. You can see he's questioned Secretary Higgs at today. He joins me now. Senator, I wonder if you were convinced by the case the Secretary of Defense made today.

Well, Chris, I went into that hearing very worried about the future course of this war and our country. And I came out even more worried because it's very clear the Secretary of Defense and the Trump administration have no idea what they're doing. And this is a very dangerous moment for the country because... They've never decided what their true objective is. It changes by the day. As I said at the hearing, you know, Donald Trump told the country back in March that we'd won. When I asked the secretary about that, he said, well, what the president really meant was we were able to hit their military really hard. Well, there was never a question about whether the United States military could do a lot of damage to Iran. But that is a long way from winning. And this secretary of defense keeps saying we're going to win. but he won't tell us what his real objective is. At the very end, it said it was about ending Iran's nuclear program, and I pointed out, Chris, that he had told the country just last year, and this is almost an exact quote, that we had obliterated Iran's ability to produce any nuclear weapons, which clearly would mean that their whole purpose here. would be meaningless. So the bottom line is this is a very dangerous moment for our country and the American people are paying the price. I think the ask in the supplemental, or the number that was attached to the cost of the war thus far, if I'm recalling correct, it was like $37.5 billion. I don't think there was necessarily a dollar figure put to the supplemental, because again, I'm actually, I've lost the thread here a little bit about how they're planning to fund the whole thing. They just passed a big thing in the house. But I guess my first question is, I'm not an accountant, and I'm not privy to the numbers, but the 37.5 seems low to me, honestly. Given how expensive the weapons we've been using are and given the reporting about their depletion, do you even trust that top line number? I don't. I don't trust it one bit. I think it is a low ball number. And of course, the cost to the American people is, you know, well over $100 billion, $150 billion if you add up those costs. But just to the Pentagon, that is a low ball number. The other thing I will say, Chris, is what they're asking for the Pentagon for the war right now is about $70 billion. Now, they have... tens of billions of dollars stashed away in other DOD accounts from the so-called big beautiful bill. And actually, if you look at the fine print in their request right now, some of that money, for example, is to go to the National Guard in D.C. or to patrol the southern border, which is not the Defense Department's job. So there are a lot of funny numbers here, but the bottom line is I will not vote for one penny to support their illegal war.

We've got this chart, which I think does a pretty good job of just at a glance sort of telling the story of the Strait of Hormuz, obviously, which has been the kind of strategic focal point here. You see it, you know, the war starts. Traffic stops. The MOU is signed. You can see it sort of ticks up a little bit there. Never gets back to the former level and is now plummeted again. And we've got gas prices, you know, at the start of the work, 292, 298 and now back up of $4 a gallon. What do you think the significance of the addition of this new front and the possibility of the Houthis actually enforcing, I mean, for the first time in today, it seemed that they did, enforce essentially a blockade for the other route by which Saudi oil might get off of the peninsula there? Yeah, I think this is a significant development. And, of course, the, you know, the collapse of the ceasefire and the fact that the Strait of Hormuz is now effectively closed, if you take those things together, you're going to continue to see a big spike in gas prices. You know, the president was crowing about the fact that they were coming down. That was, of course, during the period of the ceasefire. But now that the ceasefires collapse, the Strait of Hormuz is effectively closed. And now the... you know, the straight through the Red Sea is being threatened by the Houthis. That's why you're seeing, you know, the average price of gasoline in the United States now go up over four bucks. And that's going to keep going up. And of course, that drives up prices for groceries and everything else because, you know, when you're trucking your, you know, food supplies, obviously that drives at the price throughout the economy. So the bottom line is the... The president claimed he wanted to end this war, but he is putting more fuel on the fire, and Pete Hegseth is doing the same thing. Final question for you, there's an interesting quote from the finance minister in the Israeli government, Smotrich, who is a very far-right figure along with Itamar Ben-Gvir in that sort of coalition government, saying basically the Israel at this point is no interest in joining the U.S.'s ongoing strikes with Iran. The reason I raise that is I actually sort of, again, had lost track of this about whether these operations we've been conducting in this latest round or actually join operations. It appears they've... entirely been the U.S., and entirely focused, again, on the objective, which it seems to get the Strait of Hormuz open from before, and the Israeli far-right minister, who, again, who has been very belligerent or, you know, aggressive in his feelings about Iran, saying, like, we're out on this one. Well, Chris, I think what the finance minister is saying, finance minister Smotrich, is that, you know, he's perfectly happy to see the United States fight this war. And this was a war, of course, started by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump. And Benjamin Netanyahu said he'd been waiting 40 years to start this war. He finally found a president stupid enough to do it. And now, essentially, the United States is fighting it.

on its own. It's our forces who are at risk. It's our assets that are at risk. So I think Finance Minister Smotrich is sort of saying, you know, we've got this just where we want it. The Americans are fighting this war, which is very popular in Israel and very unpopular here in the United States. Yeah, that's true. The polling bears that out. Senator Chris Van Hollen. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Coming up, the right-wing media panic as Trump's poll numbers go very, very wobbly ahead of the midterms. That's next. With just over 100 days until the midterms, Donald Trump has restarted the war with Iran. At least three American service members are dead, dozens injured. Of course, oil prices are now shooting up once again. And you could literally hear the panic among anyone who's invested in a Republican majority. They're not being subtle about it. The clock is ticking for President Trump to get out of this war before voters head to the polls. It's making a lot of Republicans nervous. It's already, as we know, unpopular. According to the New Washington Post, Ipsos polls, 69% of Americans disapprove of the handling of this conflict. Republicans cannot let this become an endless distraction. especially if they want to win in November. Is there any way to work around Iran, that is to pump more, to develop more pipelines in the mid-east, to get around the Iranian hump, if he will? He promised to keep us out of endless wars or unsatisfactory wars. And now he's in one and it's not all clear how it's going to end. So he's vulnerable on this point. And I was in political terms he does need to get this over with. Joining us now, Alex Wagner, MS Now Senior Political Analyst, hosts of Crooked Media's great runaway country podcast, and Claire McCaskill, former Missouri Senator and MS Now Political Analyst. Claire, I'll start with you. The Laura Gring, Ingram, like, let's wrap it up, boys, monologue the other night, really sort of exploded through the screen. I mean, she's... Obviously not wrong. And I think there was a general sense when the MOU got signed, you can sort of feel the kind of palpable relief among a lot of Republicans like, okay, all right, and the ships go through and the oil companies come down down. And if you're them, this is about the worst turn of events politically they could imagine. Yeah, it doesn't get any worse than this. And a lot of them remember some very important elections. How about LBJ in Vietnam? How about George Bush in Iraq? And now it's Donald Trump in Iran. And the double whammy here is not just the endless war that nobody can figure it out. It's a war of choice. We don't know why we did it. Our allies were not consulted. But importantly, it's costing them money of the gas pump.

That wasn't the case with Vietnam. That wasn't the case with the war in Iraq. And so now it is a double whammy because it's hitting them in their pocketbook and they know who to blame. There's also just the sort of structural factors were faced, you know, sort of on the Democrat side anyway, right? Midterm, first term of a, you know, unified government. I thought, I will say that I thought that the first round of this were would be a low point for approval for Trump. And I'm now thinking that there might actually be some room to fall further. What do you think, Alex? Yeah, I mean, I think the worst possible case is like probably this situation come September. You look at what's happening in the Red Sea with the Houthis and the fact that they're basically threatening Saudi oil experts. Who knows if China wants to tap back into the oil markets? They've had very, very repressed demand since the war in Iran began. I mean, there's still a bottom in terms of how bad it could get with gas prices, which means there's still a bottom in terms of overall approval for this war. disapproval. I mean, it's just, it is so bad for the president to say nothing of the fact that he's clearly, completely. out to lunch. It doesn't literally ask a reporter at the White House today, do you have information I don't have? Like, there is, the plan is no plan. I mean, I was watching Pete Hegseth on the Hill asked for $88 billion in supplemental funding in a committee chaired by Susan Collins. And you could feel the discomfort as one of the vulnerable Senate incumbents sits there as the chair of the committee that's going to hand over. another $88 billion on top of the $1 trillion the Pentagon already has to mess this whole thing up. I'm glad you mentioned her because that's, I mean, that vote is a terrible vote for her. It's also one that's going to be very hard for her to avoid. Unlike some other votes, I think she'll probably be a no-on Todd Blanche. I think they're going to, you know, they're going to give her a very long leash, as it were, to sort of vote independently. We've now got a picture kind of coming together in Maine, which, again, was along with North Carolina, seen as one of the sort of top two Democratic pickup opportunities. Obviously, the Graham Platner situation happened. Troy Jackson, who's a state legislator, well-known entity who ran for governor. It looks to be that he has wrapped up enough delegates that he'll be the nominee. And we've got our first poll of the head-to-ed match, which is interesting, given, you know, everything that's happened in that state player, that, you know, you're back to kind of what I would say would be the sort of like structural conditions of slight democratic edge. What do you make of it?

Well, I think it's important to point out that normally this kind of problem in a Democratic primary and a key race would be something that would be sending shivers down to all of our spines. But because of Donald Trump, everybody in Maine understands they can't afford not to be unified. Anyone who believes Donald Trump is a disaster of this country knows they have to stay focused on the goal of taking the Senate so that Donald Trump doesn't have his way. with Congress the way he has the last two years. I don't care how many times Susan votes against him. It won't make any difference because everybody understands if she's reelected, Donald Trump has his way with the United States Senate. Yeah, that's a good point, Claire, because, you know, Alex, it was. I mean, obviously the way the last few weeks of the platinum candidacy played out were sort of brutal in a whole bunch of different ways. It did look like in the wake of that there was an opportunity for some real sort of nasty internal fighting and bloodletting and how is the Democratic Party even going to come up with a process that feels fair. And instead... Troy Jackson kind of wrapped up a lot of delegates, all the other people in the field sort of very quickly endorsed him, essentially. It does seem like that period and that process went about as well as you could possibly imagine given what preceded it. Yeah, yeah. And what also happened in that interim period is Juan Gore-Garero, an unarmed legal resident of this country was slaughtered by ICE on the streets of Biddeford, Maine. And guess who sat at the top of the Appropriations Committee when the Senate decided to give ICE an extra $70 billion and refused to make any... reforms to ICE and the way it operates in the wake of the killings of Alex Pready and Renee Good, Susan Collins. I mean, you have two things unfolding in Susan Collins' backyard, whether it's high gas prices or the reality of the brutality of the tactics of Trump's death squads marching through the streets of Biddeford-May. Mainers understand the stakes. And I think, you know, because of that, Democrats weren't effing around. They figured, you know, they understand the desperation in that state for change. And they also understand absolutely how vulnerable Susan Collins is in this moment. Yeah, it's a great, but we've got some reporting on MS now that is sort of making the point that. You know, that the shooting of Mr. Guerrero is instantly replaced the Graham Platner story as the number one story in Maine across the state everywhere because it was so shocking and so upsetting and particularly the revelations that have come out about the allegations against the individual who shot him from multiple exes of his. That has really come to dominate the story there. Alex Wagner and Claire McCaskill. Great to have you both. Thank you.

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Two proudly right-wing self-proclaimed misogynists who become some of the most powerful influencers of the so-called Manosphere. Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan were arrested in Miami on Saturday on the way to a bare-knuckle boxing event. You see them there in the purple. That's Andrew Tate. They're now awaiting possible extradition to England under what British authorities call pending ongoing legal proceedings. While the men were already both facing charges in England, which they deny, the Crown Prosecution Service announced the following. Quote, Andrew Tate is being charged with seven further accounts of rape, three counts of arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation, three counts of assault, occasioning actual bodily harm, and 19 additional charges for offenses relating to indecent images of a child and extreme pornography. Tristan Tate is being charged with one count of sexual assault, two counts of rape, and three counts of arranging or facilitating trafficking for sexual exploitation. The brothers have long denied all charges against them in every country investigating them. In a statement, their lawyer said, quote, the world knows Andrew and Tristan Tate are innocent. They have something of a storied legal history. Early last year, they were effectively kind of living in a kind of exile in Romania. They couldn't leave the country because they were under criminal prosecution. There was an investigation there into multiple allegations against the two men, including human trafficking, coercing women to pornography, and an allegation that Andrew had sex with a 15-year-old, beating her with a belt and choking her until she passed out. That's per the New York Times. The New Yorker reports that one 15-year-old told Romanian investigators that during sex, quote, even though I asked Andrew to stop, he continued. Again, both brothers deny any criminal activity at all. But as the New York Times also reports, the brothers had cultivated relationships with many people in Trump's inner circle, including his son's Baron and Donald Trump Jr., as well as Trump's former personal attorney, Alina Habba, and conservative media personalities like Tucker Carlson, who interviewed the brothers quite favorably. The Times reports that the Trump special envoy, Rick Grenell, also in the Trump circle, even discussed the Tate's case with two Romanian officials in 2024 after Trump won and then early 2025 as he was preparing to take office. Now, Grinnell denies having a substantive conversation about the Tate, though that would seem to indicate they did talk about it. For the Trump's part, neither Donald Trump Jr. nor the White House gave the Times comment on the Tate's relationship with Trump's oldest and youngest sons. The White House told the Times it is not involved in anything related to the Tate's legal matters. But here's the thing. The brothers started to get some good news not long after Trump won the 2024 election. They're sitting in Romania. They can't leave. Quote, I had word from the Trump admin that they're on top of things. Andrew Tate wrote to someone close to him in a message reviewed by the New York Times. I've been told I'll be free soon, but Trump needs to see me in Miami, he added.

And sure enough, soon after, in February of 2025, the Romanian government, again, which had these sort of pending allegations against them, said, actually, they're free to go. They can leave the country. And immediately they did. In fact, they came to Florida. That's the same state, of course, where a Trump ally once granted a generous deal to another man accused of human trafficking, Jeffrey Epstein. President Trump says he knows nothing about the conditions that the Tate's travel ban in Romania being lifted. Alina Habba denied any role as well. But what happened was Trump got elected, they got let out of Romania, they came back to the U.S. But the brother's legal team appears to have borrowed a strategy from Trump world telling reporters after hearing yesterday that the Tates are facing a witch hunt, that the cases against them in Romania and the UK are essentially a kind of fabrication. Brothers also remain apparently well connected in some rights wing circles. In fact, just days before their arrest in Miami, the British tabloid, the Daily Mail reporter, the Tates were spotted around Washington, D.C. As guests of a Trump friend associate, the special envoy Jerome Powell Zampoly, the Tates even apparently took a photo you see there with Texas Republican Congressman Wesley Hunt. Both the Daily Mail and MS now reached out to Hunt's office, and we have not heard back. Megan Toey's investigative reporter from the New York Times where she's extensively covered the Tate Brothers and she joins me now. The legal trail here is complicated because it involves multiple jurisdictions. There were cases being sort of pursued in the UK and in Romania, but walk us through what happened, what development happened in the UK's possible prosecution to prompt the arrest and the attempt of an extradition. Yeah. So this week really was a significant turning point with regards to the Tates and the legal investigations of them. Up until Saturday, up until this weekend, they had been under criminal investigation in Romania. And there had been several charges of rape and human trafficking authorized by British prosecutors. But there had been this agreement that the prosecutors, you know, that the British prosecutors wouldn't move forward until the Romanians were done with their investigation, with their criminal case. And then the brothers would be extradited from Romania to the UK. Now, what clearly has happened in recent weeks is that the British prosecutors have charged them with new crimes, alleged crimes. They are now, you know, they had previously charged them with rape and assault and human trafficking, and now they've brought additional charges of rape, sex trafficking, and significantly those seemingly pornography, including a child pornography charge. And with those new charges, they have... issued an extradition request to the United States because the Trumps have since they were released from Romania been traveling around the world. They resumed their jets sort of, you know, their jet setting lifestyle. They've been in Dubai. They've been in Turkey and they've been returning to the United States. Notably, they have not gone back to the UK. And so an extradition request came in from the UK.

to the United States, to the Justice Department, saying we would like, we're authorizing these new charges, and we would like you guys to issue a warrant for their arrest and extradite them back to the UK. And the federal officials here in the United States complied. So since their arrest on Saturday that you've seen images of, they have been in federal detention in Miami, and federal prosecutors have been basically arguing the case for extradition in court there. And the Tates are fighting that. Their lawyers are continuing to say this is all just politically motivated and that they're completely innocent of any crimes. A little context here that I feel like is important for folks that don't know. I mean, they, Andrew Tate particularly developed an enormous following online, particularly with young men. Obviously, connections to people in Trump's orbit. They became a kind of cause celebrity of conservatives. I just saw a video today of the late Charlie Kirk talking about how people should listen to what Andrew Tate says about an overly feminine society. And also, I mean, this is sort of key context. Like, the whole thing that they marketed. And in some ways. would charge people for was to learn how to develop tools of psychological manipulation and coercion so as to get women to do sex work for you that you could make money off, essentially, right? I mean, that was a huge part of what their whole public profile was. Yes, it was, I mean, what was sort of interesting and remarkable about them is that they basically created a business and helped gain followers of young men by bragging about the fact that they had operated an online porn. business and by saying that they had actually exploited women and coerced them into participating in that porn business and that they would take most of the profits, they sold online courses to that extent saying, you know, we, like there was one course that was called the pimping hose degree where they said, listen, we're going to teach you the. kind of tricks of the trade that we've used to exploit women and make money off of them. And so that really kind of wove that into their public image as they gained followers, not just for these online courses, but just a broader online following of young men who were attracted not just to their kind of financial savvy and their brazen masculinity and misogyny, but. you know, to some of the broader messages that they were bringing about the need for like men to kind of regain their place in society and to push women down. And as they did this, they were continued, they made these very sort of strategic mutually beneficial alliances into the American right, even as criminal allegations of trafficking and rape.

you know, multiplied against them, both in Romania and in the UK. We also learned that they had been under investigation here in the United States by anti-trafficking agents, as well as prosecutors in the Justice Department. But in spite of this, the, you know, their messaging and the way that they connected with particularly a young male demographic that became crucial to Trump's, you know, return to power, they were able to like make strategic alliances with people and the Trump family from Donald Trump Jr. to Baron Trump we were able to show was communicating with Andrew Tate by Zoom as recently as 2024 when the presidential race was going on. They talked about the criminal case against them in Romania at the time and how they both agreed that it wasn't substantial or wasn't legitimate. There were, he also made, the Tates have also made alliances into with Trump advisors from, you know, Richard Grinnell, who you mentioned, who was the special diplomatic envoy, who discussed the Tates once Trump was back in, well, after he was reelected and then, you know, took, took. entered his second administration. Grinnell had conversations with he wasn't just sort of publicly supporting the Tates. He was also having conversations with Romanian political figures about their case. And so it was, and they also had these, you know, formed these alliances with people like Tucker Carlson as he was leaving Fox and trying to build his new audience and his new show. He went to. Romania and sat down with Tate while he was under, you know, first indicted in Romania and basically, you know, it was a very warm, friendly interview in which they actually misrepresented the criminal charges against him. Yeah, and we should just note that if folks want to learn more, the York Great Reporting the New York Times, there's an incredible piece in the New Yorker as well. And just to note that there are, again, these are allegations and or charges. They are not proven and the two men deny them. But there are multiple people, both named and anonymous, who accuse them of. Rape, violent rape, physical abuse, sexual coercion, essentially grooming underage girls for sex work and streaming. I mean, it's a very long list of accusations here. If people want to learn more about them, this is not something that, like, came out of nowhere. I think it's fair to say at this point, even as they were establishing these relationships and getting their friendly interviews with Tucker Carlson, Megan Toey, who's been doing amazing reporting on this beat. Her work is in the New York Times on the latest twist and turn here. Thank you, Megan. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

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And this needs to be fixed immediately and people need to be held accountable for that, especially if they've known this since it's happened a couple years ago. So, yes, when there are mistakes, when there are things that are broken, we need to fix it. But we also need to make sure that we're looking at the problems in the right size, that this is not akin to what Donald Trump was talking about. Yes, this is something that needs fixing. But it's not this widespread systemic problem that Trump has been using and weaponized. to try to push forward a very extreme agenda when it comes to deterring voters and other things that he's been trying to push on with his conspiracy theories and delusions about winning the 2020 election. But yes, it's certainly something that we need to fix. And I've been pushing to make sure that we're upgrading our voter equipment and ballots all across the country. We need to make sure we're protecting it from cybersecurity and other issues like that. So those are things we need to. to make sure we're pushing hard on. Yeah, I should note one more thing, which is that as far as we can tell, the distribution of party registration was essentially even sort of across a Republican Democrat and independent. Again, talking about 400 people out of millions and millions of New Jersey votes cast. So the idea that there is some sort of secret stash of non-citizen Democrats, you know, overwhelming the polls, I think once again, very much belied by the actual data here. You have a new proposal on the health insurance front. Now, one of the things that's interesting is, You've seen. polling in the Senate battlegrounds and in the midterm showing that health care is one of the places where Democrats are strongest, Republicans are weakest. It's particularly been the case about the enormous Medicaid cuts that were involved in the one big domestic bill that Trump and the Republicans passed. But there's also this question of like what affirmatively a Democratic administration or Democratic majorities would do to expand coverage, to lower the costs of health care, to improve health care. What's the proposal that you've been? unveiling. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, we have to be able to talk about what we're for, not just what we're against. I can keep talking about how I'm opposed to the Medicaid cuts that Trump unleashed. But we also recognize, look, we have 4.4 million kids in this country that don't have health insurance. 23 million kids that are underinsured, which means that they don't have the coverage to meet their needs. So I've introduced today a proposal called MediKids. So in the same way that we have Medicare providing that universal guarantee for our seniors, that we have MediKids that is a universal guarantee, automatic enrollment into MediKids upon birth, and being able to provide that health care and bring that number of 4.4 million uninsured kids down.

to zero. It's something that'll help with affordability for millions of families, as well as just make sure that we're creating healthy kids, which will become healthy adults at a healthier society, and bring down our health care costs. I think this is a real and implementable idea that we can get... moving on and be able to make a huge difference for so many families. So that's why I'm excited about introducing this. We've been getting a great response from so many people across the country today. And I want to make sure we'll continue to spread the word so that we know, again, what are the big ideas and the vision going forward that we can rally around? Final question. Can you imagine in the current Senate Republican votes for a bill like this? Well, look, you know, eyes wide open, you know, that they were right there in the same room with me in the eye as they were voting to gut Medicaid. So I understand that. But that underscores why it is we need to push. Because their bill, gutting Medicaid, has now had even more impact. Over 2 million more kids off of insurance, off of Medicaid and CHIP. just since January 2025. So again, the American people need to see the choice, see what the Republicans are doing, and see that Medicaid can be the future that supports our kids and our grandkids in the way that they deserve. All right, Senator Andy Kim in New Jersey. Thanks for your time tonight. Appreciate it. Stay tuned in just a little bit. Jen Saki will be speaking to the senior senator from New Jersey. Cory Booker. We'll be right back.

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