SCOTT GREER 8/11/2026 THE SIMON CONWAY SHOW

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God. Top stories and the analysis you trust, Simon Conway, on your radio and the Iheart Radio app. All across the great state of Iowa, where it is the Simon Conway show, you are very, very welcome in. You know, we have been talking to President Trump on this show ever since he came down the escalator. We were the first non-national outlet he spoke to, and he's been speaking to us ever since. I think I've done 30 interviews with him. He's been on a lot of radio stations, but he hasn't been two physically radio stations. Well, apart from this one. where he's been twice now. And he really has changed American politics. The big question is, is this forever? Or are we going to go back to a pre-Trump era once he is done? That's a question I want to answer. Let's talk to our guest. His name is Scott Greer. He is the author of White Pill, the online right and the making of Trump's America. You're very welcome, Scott. How are you? I'm great. How about yourself? I'm very well. This is a very interesting book for me because there was a moment. in the president's first term. It was literally the day of the election that I spoke to him. I interviewed him in the morning. And then when we were done with the interview, he said to me, Simon, how do you think it's going? And I said, I think it's going very well, Donald. He had me calling, I was one of the few that got to call him Donald. And he said, how do you think it's going to shake out? I said, I think the next time I talk to, I'll be calling you Mr. President. And he said, why? I'm like, well, you just put 35, 40,000 people in an airplane hangar at 1 o'clock in the morning in Grand Rapids, Michigan on the early morning of election day. Why? Why were they there? What were they expecting? You weren't going to unveil some brand new policy that was going to convince anybody. If you don't look at that and don't understand that something dramatic just happened in our country, then you're really not paying attention. And you have put all that together in a book. So what happened? Oh, man, a lot happened. That is a big question. A lot happened. But I think one thing you brought up is that from going back to these elections, you know, Trump tapped into something that no other Republican and no other conservative was tapping into. There was a, you know, this is you could say it's an untapped market that was there that if you looked at the other contenders in the 2016 race, none of them were saying anything that Trump was saying. And Trump took the one issue.

that all the other candidates were ignoring, but the base cared a lot about, and we're starting to demonstrate their care for, and many of the primaries, the Republican primaries, and years prior to that, and that issue was immigration. And you have to remember that when he came down the escalator, What all the news coverage focused on was his comments on immigration, which they were all appalled by that he's like, how dare he say these illegal immigrants are bringing racist over and drugs and crime and all these bad things? How dare he say that? And many of the Republicans were condemning him as well, saying, no, we're moving past that. We're now going to give them amnesty. We're no longer demonizing them or whatever that they would say. But Trump took this issue and knew it connected with millions of Americans and no other politician was talking about this. And he was able to take over the GOP and remake conservatism and the Republican Party in his image on this one issue. And if you compare how conservatives and Republicans talk about this issue, compared to the pre-Trump era, night and day. Back in the pre-Trump era, you would be lucky if one of the candidates, one of the Republican, you know, congressmen, lawmakers would say something opposed to amnesty, illegal immigration. They wouldn't even discuss legal immigration. And now today you have Republicans who want to demonstrate that they're more conservatives than the rest of the field. They want to talk about how they want to restrict not just illegal immigration, but legal immigration. And that is part of the Trump effect that had demonstrated in my book. called White Hill. So this is what that's one of the many things that's happened. And it's also been a transformation in the media landscape that has brought up many issues that. The mainstream media didn't cover in the past, but now it was brought to the fore due to this new media space brought on by the Internet. Well, we don't... Here's the bottom line. We don't trust those institutions anymore. Correct. Right? We just don't. We don't trust the government to tell us the truth about health care. That's a really serious problem, by the way. It's not that we're wrong to distrust them. They looked us in the eye and lied to us. But we need to get... to the next stage where we feel comfortable that they're not going to do that again. Correct. Yes, that's a, they, and we can even bring up COVID. There's been many things that they've tried to lie to us and say, this is the one thing. You know, we've got to lock down the whole country. We've got to not let kids go to school or have kids mass up even during lunchtime and all this nonsense. And they told us we had to do this. And then we found out that this didn't do anything to curb the, you know, the spread of COVID. So, yes, no, the mainstream media is full of wires and is.

been responsible for many things, you know, look at how they portrayed the George Floyd event. And afterwards it's saying that we needed to fund the police and the real problem in America is systemic racism and we need to wipe out our heritage and change our law because of George Floyd. Now we get more of the truth. And I think you bring up the correct point that we have to worry about them not saying the truth. But today... you have so much access to information and so many different avenues besides the mainstream media that you didn't have in the past. And this was beneficial to Trump, because Trump could have never existed in the 2000s, the decade, I mean, obviously the century, or in the 90s and the 80s, because there was a controlled media environment where everyone paid attention to the same big newspapers, New York Times, Washington Post, and the same few networks. And when you had that controlled media space, it made it very difficult for someone like a true outsider like Donald Trump to arrive. But with more people turning to the Internet, and they're not being the levels of control that the old media space had, it allowed for people to find out truth and all their information that they would have never found out or never heard about before. And a lot of people, you know, if they're, you know, say if Trump's running in 88 election or something. You know, people would have been like, oh, well, you know, the newspapers tell me he's the most evil person ever, and then immigration is this great thing. I'm going to trust them. But in 2016, and especially today, they could learn all their information that would tell them that that's actually not true. What the Washington Post in your times are telling you, and CNN is telling you, is not true. There's a different story there. And that's one of the reasons that I'm optimistic that this new political dynamic, this new framework that was created by Trump is going to remain because the old media environment, the old political structures that didn't allow outsiders like Trump to emerge, that's gone. We're in a completely new era where, you know, we're no longer paying attention to what CNN tells us about who to vote for and what information to believe and what we should think on various issues. Who's the heir apparent? Who's the heir apparent? That's a great question, but it looks like it's JD Vance by all appearances. But whoever it is, you know, they've got big shoes to fill. And we may not even have a true heir apparent in 2028. I mean, depending on how the election goes. You know, we might have to wait until the 2030s to find a true Arab parent. But it's going to be big shoes to feel. It's in the same way with Ronald Reagan in the 80s. You know, we didn't have an immediate era parent to Reagan when he left office as well. But Reagan had a major effect and was this gigantic figure within the Republican Party and the conservative movement for 30 years after he left office. And I think we're going to see that with the same with Trump, where... You had candidates in 2016. We're all saying, I'm the next Ronald Reagan. You're probably going to see candidates in the 2030s and 2040 saying, I'm the next Donald Trump in a similar fashion. That's going to be interesting, actually. You know, by the way, you're on the Ronald Reagan station right now, do you?

That's fun. We're not certified. W.H.O. Radio is where Ronald Reagan worked for five years before he went to Hollywood. Oh, yeah, when he was a sportscaster. Yeah, he was a sports castor. He was, all right, we even play his audio. W.H.O. kept on pioneering. This station had its own accredited war correspondents in World War II, the Pacific and the European Theater. That great family of listeners here in the Middle West heard at first hand broadcast descriptions of the Battle of the Bowes and the signing of the surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay. And always, with the new and the different, there was an emphasis on service. During the war, W.H.O. sold more than $6 million in war bombs to 25,000 investors in 46 states. clothing drive conducted for the destitute in the war zones and the news bureau of w h o acted as a clearinghouse the people of greece in gratitude named their streets some of their streets w h o and demoy and even ireland the legacy of the great communicator continues on news radio 1040 w h o there goes a little gift for you right there that's awesome i did not realize that that's some great history that's uh yeah that was Hey, you've guys been around for over 100 years then. We have been around for over 100 years. Yes, sir. We've been around. I think we're 130 year, I think. Yeah, 103, yeah. So anyway. Then you'll maybe, next remember 200 years how you were the first radio station to have Donald Trump on. Yeah, we interviewed him a number of times, and we have maintained great access to the administration. I've already been at the White House three times. invited, not just showed up. And, you know, we get to talk to members of the cabinet on a fairly regular basis as well. All right, Scott, we will see what we will see. By the way, my answer to the air apparent, I think, I think in the current administration is probably Marco Rubio. We will see how this all shakes out. because I think you need a bold personality and I think he's got it. Scott, once one more time give out the name of your book so everybody can write it down. The book is White Hill, The Online Right and the Making of Trump's America. It will tell you the full story of how our current era of politics came about. So get it on Amazon while you can. There you go. Scott Greer. Thank you very much. So you have yourself a good and safe rest of the day. I appreciate your contribution today. Thank you. There you go. Is it ever going to be the same? Two and a bit more years of this administration and then what? This is the Simon Conway show.