Tom Shattuck: Mostly Peaceful Flight | 8.11.26 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 4

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I wonder if AOT is going to have time to thaw out her eggs and have a kid before the planet incinerates from global warming. Hold on. Do we have that cut? Did I send that cut? That's a, can you play cut? Six. Is that possible, Matt? I know we get a lot of stuff going on right now. Let me know what it is. Millennials and people and, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we're like, The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change. And your biggest issue is, your biggest issue is how are we going to pay for it? Your biggest show is how are we going to pay for it? Yeah, isn't that weird how that works? How now, yes, she's going to have, she's doing the egg thing. I don't know, I don't know. It's not my decision. I can tell you that she has changed behaviorally a lot in the last two months and something is up. There's no doubt about that. But yeah, no, she told us that the end of the world was nigh and so you can't bring kids into this world. What's going on? It's almost as if everything the left says is a lie. It's catastrophism. And that's why they tie everything to the weather and everything to the climate and everything to racism. Everything's on fire. You have to believe everything's on fire because that's the only way their radical ideas are necessary. If you don't believe everything's on fire, then they're just lunatics. And that's how they pull that stuff. And the only way Trump could get inside a catering truck to board Air Force One, because Chris Christie and J.B. Pritzker volunteered to eat the food first. It is funny. Christy had the, like, didn't eat both of those guys. I mean, I'm a fat, too. So this is fat and fat crime is a lot, I think. Christie has remained fat. And didn't he have the surgery? How he stayed thin? How has been thin for like 20 years now. Yeah, but J.B. Pritzker, he's also a fat. And he's doing all sorts of walking and stuff. I think that there's, I think that there are certain rules that you have to have as a fat guy. And one is you shouldn't be disgusting in shirtless as a guy. And so with a gynoplasty or whatever that Howie's talking about there, whatever kind of ripples of fat you have is a big fat guy, you should hide that. And two, you don't wear Chris Christie's softball uniform that he wears, which should be a crime against humanity that he has that. I don't even know what to call the protrusion that happens when that's around. But those two guys are legit fat. J.B. Pritzker's too fat to be president. Sorry, those days are over. Oh, I'm sorry.

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Few luxuries, bland food. Hey, this sounds like communism. No kidding. Lines, lines. In a sense, as long as they give you enough to sustain, that's fine. But actual communism, there were people like literally fighting over bread. in these stores were just sparse but the problem is with real communists is is that the citizens are an inconvenience which is why you you know the um The value of citizens is nil in the Soviet Union, which is why they're still, the Vladimir Putin's still happy to just feed more young men into the war, as long as they're not the, you know, as long as they're not the nobility class, just feed more and more, feed more and there'll be ultimately less mouths to feed, which is going to hurt them in the long run like it's hurt the Chinese because there's a depopulation problem. But communism is absolutely terrible. I know a guy who... who uh you know what i've just named i've used my own family too many times but i'm going to use it again my dad used to go for business to moscow in the 70s and 80s and he had three observations one that the uh that there were spies KGB guys following them everywhere. Everywhere. Two, that they help at the airport and in the hotels would steal anything that wasn't like attached. Like, so we had, he had, from a trip we had taken, he had Disney stickers. They would take all of Disney. They would take anything Western because they were so in love of it. And the last thing was that these tall, young, gorgeous Russian women would be all over the American businessman. because they wanted to get married to them and be taken back to the States. And it only occurred to me, and I'm glad that while he was alive, I didn't have the, I didn't realize this, so I didn't need to have the heart to tell him that those young, gorgeous ladies were also spies. Some fishermen thought they caught a shark, bottom feeding, but it was just Graham Platner. He said he's planting oysters because he's an oyster farmer. He does a bit of oyster farming, but what he does most of the time is hang out at his mother's restaurant and drink cocktails. And he shucks a few oysters while he's there. But he's another guy whose life. It's going to be interesting to see where he is in about six months because he was a phenom, and the Democrats either paid him off or threatened him. to get out of this race here but it'll be interesting to see where he pops up because he's not talentless i mean if you can lie about your life with a straight face it that's a good talent that's usually i mean he's better at it than Gavin Newsom so we'll see where he pops up but i'd start looking in the direction of msnbc

I'm a Trump fanatic, but I don't think it's cool. The way he's obsessed about the reflecting pool with the massive slate he has on his plate, the waste time on this makes him appear a fool. I've got to be with you on the reflecting pool. He is trying to open up or reopen up the investigation into the guys who sabotage the reflecting pool, and I think it's time to move on. In other news, residents with homes on the Merrimack River are still reeling weeks after the release of raw sewage. Matters got worse on Monday when one resident turned on the radio and heard Tom Shattuck. I think I'm going to hurt! How dare you? How dare you? I am just two blocks from the mighty banks of the Merrimack River. I'm a victim, too, good sir. How dare you? Take it back. That was your last chump line message. Thank you for calling Howie Carr. You chump. Today's chump line is brought to you by Perfect Smiles. Howie knows how good Perfect Smiles is because he's been going there forever and his teeth look better than ever. Howie only goes to Perfect Smiles in New Hampshire. It's so worth a trip to tax-free New Hampshire. Visit them today at Perfect Smiles.com or call them at 603-5956699. I wonder if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is going to have time to thaw out her eggs and have a kid before the planet incinerates from global warming. This is the Howie Car Show. Follow Howie on X. I've got to post a link with witty comment. At Howie Car Show.

Howie car is back. 522. All right. Oh, by the way, if you have an iPhone and you think that... that you've been dropped by all your friends. Restart your iPhone, because I'm now back on 36 text threads, and it's been like three days. Very disconcerting. I'm starting to get into the time to move on period in my life. All right. Today's poll question is brought to you by the... No, no, no, no. Okay, yes. Yes, I'm doing this right. Matt, stay with me. Today's poll question is brought to you by the burner less lethal pistol launcher for those who want a powerful self-defense option without resorting to deadly force. Visit burner.com to save 10%. B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash howie. Matt, what is the poll question and what are the results thus far? And you can vote on the poll question by going to howie car show.com. Are you upset that the Secret Service use the White House Press Corp as a decoy? Yes or no? I am not upset. I am indeed made very happy by that. 92% say no, 8% say yes. but the media is not thrilled that we had you know rob you know on a little bit from the blaze you should hear these people they're getting they're letting it fester now so they're more and more upset about the like what's happened here let's go to cut one here here's just this was earlier today before they really had time to get ticked off by this this is um come on this is a bunch of CNN people Effectively, the reporters and staff who were on that plane, I mean, it's serving as a decoy while he's flying on this other military aircraft. I think also led to the people who actually did fly on the blue and white plane, you know, reporters and staff to become unwitting decoys in this ruse, which I think is disconcerning for anyone who flies on Air Force One regularly. As John Berman points out, unwitting targets, decoys or targets in this case. Oh, no. decoys and targets that's right well you know he had to sell it you guys all file off the plane the terrorists are going to think you know come on now put yourself in the secret services his shoes 911 says has it ever occurred to the press corps why they sit in the back of the plane i know i know 774 says you're talking about woke in knowledge i have two recently woke daughters who were changing before my eyes i helped one buy a house last year and she suddenly is starting to act like an adult the other is having a child and it's changing her world but one with the home came up to me last week and asked me if i ever heard this crazy story about the wampanoag indians stealing this territory called cape cod from the nasset indians

I told her it was true. They waited until a plague almost wiped out the Nosset, and then they went in and committed to genocide and killed almost every last one of them. So then I asked her if she believed in reparations, if she believed in reparations, should we give the land or the casinos to the Wampanoag or to the virtually non-existent Nosset? And it ends there. Yeah, and I would also suggest that people check the... details of king phillips war too and there was also like a queen anne's war and some of these other things that um where the the colonists were essentially uh driven back almost all the way out of all of massachusetts back into cape cod and into the sea and this was um humiliation and murder and uh ritualistic things that they That the Indians were doing. So it was not the story of they were, they could speak to the deer and were nice, then we came and brutalized the land. That's not, that's a slight oversimplification. It's also not the story that the Indians had a constitution and a working democracy before we got here. It's just, you can say it, but it's just not true. We did have alliances with a lot of Native Americans, and that was very good. And they were indeed fierce fighters. There's no doubt about that. But, you know, they weren't fools, and they could be, you know, you could pay this group off on Tuesday, and if somebody outbid you by Thursday, then get in the garrison house because it's a common. But that whole time, you know, the building of this country. was a difficult time and it's a long and vast story and it's simply not a genocide and if it was it wouldn't be the first one And there's a reason why people jumped a bunch of English people and Dutch people and Spanish people, you know, jumped into wooden boats and sailed for weeks and weeks and weeks, knowing that they could die of disease or of drowning at any time, or just be massacred, murdered when they reached the land. There's a reason why they did it because things were getting dicey in Europe. And to suggest that this is... that these are new revelations they're not new revelations we have been dealing history is ugly and assertion nothing is simple and if you're if you're going to adopt a simple version that makes you feel compassionate then just don't because you're an unproductive human being if you do that and we don't need that we've got enough of those thank you 844 542.42. When we get back, we'll take more of your phone calls. 844-542-42. There's also another kerfuffle happening with another data center going up or maybe not going up in Maine. And an Amazon warehouse going up or maybe not going up in Maine.

Once again, it's about compassion, it's about feeling like you're a noble person and a really, really good person because data centers are mean. 844-542. My name is Tom Shattuck. This is the Howie Car Show. Live from the Burnah Less Lethal Pistol Pistol Studio, it's Howie Carr. Tom Shattuck here for Howie Car. Amazing. Amazing resonance that this decoy plane is having all over social media. People are so upset about it. It's wonderful. It's a wonderful story. We need more wonderful stories like this. I'm really enjoying this one. 8444-542. That is the number to call in. Let's go right back to the phones here. Jim in New Hampshire. Hey, Jim. What's going on? Hi, Jim. Hey, Jim. Just a couple observations from this. then you can just comment or opine. But I'm coming at this from a security or law enforcement perspective is basically, one, no one's forcing any of these press members on a plane. Two. The fact that they're on the plane, whether Trump is or not, and it's a target, it's not going to affect or impact either way. If it's the subject of a terrorist attack, they're still going to be on the plane if the plane's attacked, whether Trump's on it or not. Right. They may want to know about these threats, but they're not entitled to need to know about these threats. Yeah. That's such a great point. That's such a great point. And you know what? It's so inglorious, too, Jim. is that you're right they weren't conscripted into this job into being on air force one they chose this this is extremely prestigious they get to choose this and talk about and talk about how how it's you know they work all sorts of hours and they get all sorts of perks from this it's a prestigious job it's also an easy job i'm sorry about that but there are people out there who are working there are people out there on days like today who are out on roofs like doing uh roofing And real jobs near me, we had some guys up in a tree, 80 feet up. It's hot. It's high up there. Things happen. Shut up. Nobody, if you're in the media, you've skipped working. That's absolutely true. If you're in the media, unless you're doing sales, sales people still have to hit the pavement. But if you're getting paid a broadcast for a living, even if you're getting paid like I do with the main wire, if you're an editor and you've got to go through and check work and work with reporters all day, that's still not working, working. Like, have these people never had a job? There are jobs out there that are working working. Have you done, I've never done construction. I've never done anything that tough.

But, like, I used to roll, carry tables and chairs for a living and, you know, put in dance floors and stuff, you know, and do, for long hours a day. And I've done temp jobs where we did demolitions and things. Like, there is such thing as working, working out there. And if you're in the press, you are a charmed person. But it doesn't mean you're a better person. But they think it absolutely does mean you're a better person. because they get lanyards and special access to places you don't get not everybody's like that and there are people who just are not pretentious but there are people who are absolutely pretentious and you can see them oh you can see i won't i won't bore you with it but many times somebody gets like a little scratch of notoriety and becomes a little bit known like media members and they change on a dime they change on a dime and suddenly they are put out by like normal people and I mean, they resent. A lot of the sports people, a lot of the jocksnifers are like this. They resent, like, you talking about sports when you don't know. Only they really know, because they put the time in, they travel with the team. You don't know what it's like. And all these people are as, like, weird romantics that want to be around sports players. And they want to own that storytelling. But there are some good ones, too. Karen Grigigan of the Herald, I don't know if she's still there, but she was good. There are some good ones. And then there's some hot house flowers I can absolutely do without. 844-542. Let's go to David. Hey, David, in Waltham. How's it going, my friend? Hey, Dom. It sounds like it was mostly peaceful flight for the press. I think that's a good use of the press, Tom. But that's just the sideline. Ooh, I like that. I can't believe it. I may steal that for social media, David, without attribution. I apologize. No, hey, Tom, it just isn't the press was all over the governor yesterday when she signed that bill. You know, the people are applauding and they were cheering. And the big news in Massachusetts is that mother down in Duxbury who killed the three kids who was unfortunately mentally ill. And yet the governor signs a bill yesterday that allows killing of a baby up until the day before birth. So picture this. John Hanna played for the Patriots was 14 pounds when he was born. Those babies are 6 or 7 pounds when they're born. So think about it. The baby's going to be born tomorrow. It's going to be six or seven pounds or 14 pounds. The governor yesterday signed a bill that that baby can be killed. And yet they're pointing the finger at the mother in Duxbury. And the governor is mentally healthy. And she's not guilty of some criminal activity by signing that bill. And they're pointing the finger at the woman at Duxbury. Give me a break. And Dr. Anthony Fauci, by the way.

Dr. Anthony Fauci in 2019 said it takes, at the Milken Institute, anybody can look it up. He said it takes 10 years for a vaccine to be proven safe. And then he tells pregnant mothers that the vaccine is safe just about a year and a half later, maybe two years later. So what happened, doctor? After 10 years, it says, you said it takes 10 years to be proven safe. But now you're telling pregnant women that the vaccine is safe. When did that happen? So I'm saying there's. such hypocrisy it's unbelievable yeah but you're told but david you get it because you're not afraid to get it and do your own research and figure things out but we were told by all of our betters not to do our own research ever you can't do it at all don't say the word ivermectin our betters told us even though you know it works among other things and you heard we had willensky on there saying you know if you're pregnant you can get vaccinated any there's no bad time to get vaccinated she said with a pretty smile You're right. These people are ghoulish. To have this new law in Massachusetts where we can kill living babies, and then we're not even pretending anymore. But nobody says killing babies. Nobody calls it what it is, of course, because it's so gross and disgusting. But, you know, the next time some progressive starts lecturing us about the darkest period in American history and the legacy of slavery, say, hey, we ain't out of the darkest period in American history yet because you guys are doing factory-setting scale. killing of the unborn and then having a toast in the governor's office about it and then laughing if you're the good guy in this it's so gross so gross well said by the way that was a great line let's go to jamie uh jamie in vermont how's it going Hey, it's going well. I was calling you were talking about guys that are actually, or people that are actually out working. It just so happens that two days ago I was 80 feet up in a tree, cotton trees so that I could then dig a foundation. But I'm not calling about that, right? Like, yes, I put in real work, right? My hands are dirty. My clothes are dirty. I put in real work, unlike these reporters. When I first heard on the local news about this, what they were calling a ruse that the president pulled by being moved to a different plane, at what point is that... Like, that's a national security issue. And I don't know why we're informing the entire world about the things that we do to protect our president when there's threats like that. Why are we even talking about that on air how he escaped this threat? I don't know who originally leaked the details out. I'm not sure. But we probably shouldn't know about it. The fact that we found out that Clinton did the same thing, we just found out that today. That was 23 years ago, whatever it was. So, yeah, we probably shouldn't know. But we do know. But the thing is, you know what, Jamie?

the left would tell you you don't know what you're talking about because you climb trees and do that work and you didn't go to columbia so you know what you're using as common sense um they would say it's not credentialed enough now let me ask you a question so you're building a is this are you building somebody else's foundation or doing something for yourself Somebody ounces right now, but hopefully I do have plans to do my own on my own piece of property. Okay, so you're cutting the tree. That's usually that would be a tree guy, but you're also a construction. You're going to do it all? Yeah, well, I actually do excavation and logging. So we're very familiar with cutting trees and super familiar with digging. Oh, that's great. So are you going to actually, like, so you're going to do, you get rid of the trees, get rid of the roots, and then you're going to, you're going to pour the foundation, pour the concrete to make the foundation with the rebar and all that stuff. You can tell I don't know what I'm talking about. Yep. Yep. No, no, that's close enough. We actually hire out any vertical work. We'll do some flat work. But I am actually sitting in the excavator pulling stumps listening to you guys right now. Oh, that's great. I got it. stump from an old maple tree. It was 5,000 years old that every year sprouts into a new bush that I get, I have to kill. But that's my own problem. So, Jamie, tell me, so once you do the foundation, is then your part of it over? Are you guys going to build the house? No, we'll come back. We won't build the house, but we'll come back and we'll do all the back filling and build a new driveway and all of that, all the dirt work stuff. Oh, I see. And do you cap wells? What's that? Do you cap wells? Yeah, yeah, we cap wells. We do septic systems. Yeah. That's great. And so you're up there in Vermont. Where in Vermont are you? We're in Chittenden County. We're actually out of Richmond. But we work all around Chittenden County up into Franklin County, some of Memorial County stuff. My boss is actually, I guess I don't know what county it is, but he's out in the victory area up in the Northeast Kingdom, and he goes up there, stays all week blogging, and I stay out here excavated. That's great, and how's business? Business is great, yeah, business is really well. That's good to hear. Are you guys still? People say about... Go ahead. Go ahead, Jamie, go ahead. I was going to say, I don't care what people say about affordability. I think the biggest affordability issue is the choices that people make. If you want to put yourself in debt and have to go to work every single day, then you've got the right to complain about things being unaffordable. But if you purchase the things that you need and have a little bit of self-restraint and not buy the next newest phone or gadget TV or whatever, then life is plenty affordable. Yeah, but too many people want everything, and they want it right now, so they'll just put it on credit, and they just make the just dumb, dumb decisions. And you're talking to one of those people right now, Jamie. So one last thing. Are you still doing, are you guys doing jobs that's repairing damage from the floods? Speaking of the Lemoyle?

Um, not so much right now. No, we did, we did a lot of work when we got hit with a couple of floods the same exact day, two years in a row. Um, that kept us really, really busy. Um, and it was mostly emergency stuff like, like putting some roads back together and whatnot. Um, but no, we're not really doing flood damage stuff right now. Well, good for you, man. I hope our business stays, uh, stays, uh, going strong and, uh, you get everything you need. Take care, brother. Thank you, Tom. You too. Thank you. There we go. Jamie, run for office, please, after you get enough money tucked away and you're sick and tired of working hard, please. We need people who have done jobs to get in office and take Vermont back, please. 844-542. Right back with your phone calls. My name is Tom Shattuck. This is The Howie Car Show. Missed today's show? Catch the stories everyone's talking about. Listen anytime, anywhere. Subscribe to the Howie Car Radio Network wherever you get your podcasts. Howie Car is back.

Mass Corruption Volume 2. This is it right here. This is it right here. You can get your paws on this too. You know, go to howie carshow.com and hit shop and then just order, pre-order. You get five bucks off. That's good. That's free money. We like that. Let's see. The text says, 201 says, Tom, loading trucks for 10 hours at the Jersey City, New Jersey Freight Yard is way easier than being a reporter. Everybody knows that. The reporters would tell you it is. They would tell you it is absolutely. 919 says, doesn't the media and any other non-government employees have to sign a waiver when flying an Air Force One or any other government aircraft? I would think so. Hold on. These people, Tom, 603. Sorry. 413 says, Tom, why don't you just talk during the whole chump line? Good grief. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, 413. If you got to host the Howie Car Show and got to enter the chumpline room, and got to bask in the chump line wouldn't you take as much possible time doing it as you could i'm sorry oh that's it's way too much fun way too much fun all right i want to grab another cut here um it's a this is an amazon in maine this is more about amazon than main or any blue state as a matter of fact The media is very angry, locals are very angry that they are building an Amazon delivery warehouse in Gorham, Maine, and they are very, and you let me know if this makes sense to you. This is cut 12. Gorham residents are rallying to stop Amazon's plans to move into town. They held a rally at the site where the delivery center is supposed to be built. Organizers claim the facility would destroy the natural preserve and degrade the local economy. They also believe Amazon's facilities have a track record of negative impacts on public health and the environment, including increased traffic and pollution from lights and exhaust. Community members have spoken out against the proposal, but the town continues to move forward with the development. We think that there are going to be a lot of problems created by this. There are a lot of downsides. And the costs really outweigh any perceived benefit that would come from this for our community. Amazon's plan is to build a 146,000 square foot facility on Main Street with nearly 1,000 parking spaces. But the company says it would create about 170 jobs. Yeah, 170 jobs. That means a lot of people, first of all, if Amazon's coming, shake them down anyway. 170 jobs. They're driving electric vehicles, mostly. You can, that means there's a lot of people driving through Gorham Maine who are going to need to eat and might want to buy stuff. These are consumers for you, among other things. Why wouldn't you? Some places I understand. Some places you don't want it. Maine's got a lot of green tundra.

up there and a lot of space to do things now what i want in amazon place in my town no because i bought a house in a town full of meadows and horses and that's what i wanted but the town next to me is called haverill massachusetts and they've got one of those places and their town is full of those places so look We can't, but the same with the data centers, and they say, oh, light pollution, as in lights, okay, we're going to have lights. Well, lights aren't really pollution. I understand. You don't get to see Aurora Borealis as well with lights. But come on now. And if you get environmentalists in there, you're going to find a problem with any place, any damage to the environment in any place that's digging big holes, which is what happens. And so they'll say, oh, it's messed up the water table or this and that. And there was a, you know, some cement dust was around. Okay, if you want to be picky like that, then yeah, sure. But for any facility, you want, like, you're, okay, then if you're against an Amazon facility, then I hope you're not ordering the packages because you're encouraging more of these facilities coming around. You're encouraging more of this stuff. And I just don't get how you'd say no to like a data center here when you need an economic boom. You need an economic engine because the logging thing has had its day, unfortunately largely, and the paper mills largely, like bring more of this stuff in. All right, I am Tom Shattuck. I will see you tomorrow on the Howie Car Show. You guys are great. See you later.